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Re: [TV orNotTV] Entertainment reporter who loved everything unconditionally passes away.

2024-05-10 Thread John Edwards

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 4:26 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> San Rubin was one of those guys who got invited to every junket because he
> worshipped all celebrities and all media fixtures.
>
> From the article it sounds like he passed away on air or preparing to go
> on air. I’m not sure either is true.
>
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/sam-rubin-dead-ktla-entertainment-reporter-1235998979/amp/
>

Looks like they corrected it. I saw elsewhere (TMZ, I'm ashamed to admit)
that he had apparently called in sick.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Israeli Eurovision Contestant Target for Protestors?

2024-05-10 Thread John Edwards

The EBU did apparently take steps to ensure that any booing last night
wasn't audible on the broadcast, and isn't above sweetening or inserting
sounds of cheering to ensure that any booing doesn't go out on TV. Social
media last night indicated that there was some booing, but I'm not sure if
it was as pronounced as during the dress rehearsal on Wednesday.

John

On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 7:42 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Singer Eden Golan has been told not to leave her hotel in Malmo, Sweden,
> except for rehearsals and performances, as throngs outside are protesting
> Israel's presence in the annual song contest--the song was originally
> entitled "October Rain," but the Eurovision bosses rejected it as too
> controversial, so it was rewritten and retitled "Hurricane" (video of song
> in link)--Golan's rehearsal yesterday was interrupted by boos from the
> audience, although no boos were evident during today's semi-final heat
> telecast (I'm assuming that Sweden's SVT is not sweetening the audience
> response like some American reality comps)--she made it into the Saturday
> finals after an all-viewer vote (the finals are at 3 p.m. ET in the U.S. on
> Peacock), as did the Irish rock band Bambie Thug, who had to change their
> costumes on Tuesday's semi-final heat when it was found that Celtic writing
> on the costumes said "CEASE FIRE" and "FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE":
>
> https://www.thewrap.com/eurovision-protests-israel-eden-golan-hurricane/
>
> The European Broadcasting Union of pubcasters who organizes Eurovision has
> always maintained that the contest is apolitical and that Israel's
> pubcasters are valid members of the organization, but politics has always
> butt into the proceedings over the years (like the Ukraine winning in 2022
> after the Russian invasion) and with the panels of industry people voting
> on Saturday along with viewers, it will be interesting to see how Israel
> does and if the EBU will get hit with either coddling Zionism or supporting
> anti-Semitism.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] This Beets All: He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and Friend Unmasked on 'Masked Singer'

2024-05-02 Thread John Edwards

And here I thought "Bad Beets" was just a gambling term

On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 1:03 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Since I realize that none of you watch "The Masked Singer"--or in my case,
> should not be watching "The Masked Singer"--it is my duty to let you know
> that on last night's show, the pair of performers eliminated besides the
> "iconic" (Nick Cannon and two of the Usual Gang of Idiots' word, not mine)
> Corey Feldman (dressed as a seal, not as Seal--he didn't sing "Kiss From a
> Rose") were Mr. Aitken and his bud from "Idol" Ruben Studdard, dressed as
> beets.
>
> God, I wish this show had at least one regular snarker on it to lay waste
> on the overblown BS which is supposed to be wink wink nudge nudge but
> isn't. I would love to see a host come out and say "good evening, ladies
> and gentlemen, and welcome to the Parade of D-listers." I have nothing
> against good, stupid fun, but the show should be more openly aware of what
> it is. I swear that the Usual Gang of Idiots, including the Brit who's
> filling in for NIcole Scherzinger, are all mainlining crystal meth before
> they go on the air and deliver their scripted material. My main interest is
> to see the performances and who's doing the show, but even if I watched the
> performances on YouTube I still have to bear the cutaway shots of the Usual
> Gang overreacting and the staged audience reaction shots.
>
> I weaned myself off of Bill Maher--can I do it to "The Masked Singer?"
> (And in case you stayed away, Melissa, you can watch Clay and Ruben's
> performances as beets from the last few weeks on Hulu.)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi OT: Is “SciFi World” a scam?

2024-04-26 Thread John Edwards

>From the people who brought you the Willy Wonka Experience

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:08 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> https://scifiworld.org/
>
> I started to see posts about a new science fiction “museum” soon to open
> in Santa Monica, but the more I see of it, the worse it seems.
>
> Photos of the replica sets look like they were built by my middle
> schoolers. Posts on their social offer cryptic things like “a big name
> comic will be at our opening night party” but not reveal who. Oh, and they
> brought in an “expert” to determine whether their building is haunted… ugh.
> It all feels… well… half-assed and a little loopy. I hope I’m wrong and it
> turns out to be great.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox, AEG create competing tourney against March Madness(R)

2024-04-03 Thread John Edwards

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Since the original is under contract for eight more years, and Gus Johnson
> can't be lent to CBS/WBD... three major conferences signed on...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/fox-college-basketball-crown-2025-post-season-tournament-march-madness-1235959326/
>  (link)
>
> It's not competing against March Madness, but it is taking a run at the
NIT - the second-tier tournament that the NCAA now owns and has moved out
of New York.

If this takes hold, and that's a big if (a previous tournament called the
Vegas 16 / Vegas 8 failed after a year or two), this may be a way for the
major conferences to force tournament expansion or for more of their teams
to get in at the expense of the so-called "mid-major" conferences.

The NIT, perhaps in an attempt to head this off, already changed its rules
for this year to ensure that more teams from power conferences were
invited. They guaranteed two spots to each of the six strongest
conferences, and dropped the rule that gave an automatic berth to any team
that won its regular season championship but didn't qualify for the NCAA
tournament.

Assuming nothing else changes, that means next year men's basketball will
have nearly 150 postseason spots open (68 in the NCAA, 32 in the NIT, 16 in
this new thing, 16 in the CBI, 16 or so in the CIT).

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] New LN news site from familiar faces

2024-02-26 Thread John Edwards

Points!

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 4:15 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> A site about a dying time-slot on dying broadcast TV?
>
> Sounds like a guaranteed moneymaker!
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 12:19 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> This "about" page on LateNighter (part of Snugglefish, whom also hosts
>> Primetimer) identifies AJ Katz (once of Newser, and son of WABC exec
>> Michael). Bill Carter (yeah, *him*) and Jed Rosenzweig (once of Yahoo)
>> as its brain-trust...
>> https://latenighter.com/about-us (link)
>> Among the fresh items: POTUS' return to the Meyers show
>> <https://latenighter.com/news/biden-to-sit-down-with-seth-meyers-tonight/>
>> (link)
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Midnight Special on YouTube

2024-01-25 Thread John Edwards

I was more of a fan of the Midnight Express Special, myself.

https://youtu.be/6DAB64q_LkY?si=eV9d_9xvevEvEw7q

John


On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 6:31 PM PGage  wrote:

> Same; recall it with pleasure, periodically check to see what’s on YT.
> Thanks so much for this heads up! Looking forward to spending some time on
> the site and sharing with my kids.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 12:44 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> The Midnight Special is one of those shows from my youth that I remember
>> fondly and over the years I’ve checked in on YouTube to see if anyone
>> uploaded videos. I recently checked again and I see there is an official
>> account. They are slowly uploading full episodes from the beginning of the
>> series in 1973 and they have about 40 uploaded so far (and they’re still in
>> 1973). There are also clips of single songs from throughout the run. I’ve
>> been having fun watching old episodes and I thought I’d share.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

2024-01-17 Thread John Edwards

I liked Tomlinson as a host, and I think she’ll find a rhythm as the show
goes on.

I think it could be a great half-hour show. Unfortunately it’s an hour.

It is better than 10-year-old Byron Allen repeats, so it has that going for
it, which is nice.

John

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> First episode free on YouTube
>
> https://youtu.be/3RI5tgjjwTA?si=Q9xIZx77zPaZU8c4
>
> She’s a better host than the alleged sexual predator who was “cleared” of
> wrongdoing by his own lawyer.
>
> The show is just not geared to me. If you watch any British panel TV show,
> or listen to any British panel radio show, it’s agonizing to endure the
> American equivalent. In the UK the panelists are just there amusing
> themselves, and if the audience happens to laugh, fine. In the US,
> panelists just so desperately want to be loved, like every answer to a
> question should be followed up with a wink to the audience and the words
> “am I right?!” screamed at full volume.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:57 AM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>
>> I got a lot of reading done during the show.
>> Not even Paul F. Tompkins will get me to watch ep #2.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:04 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> I couldn't watch it..The forced laughter was horrible. And I liked all
>>> three panelists.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 1:31 PM David Risner  wrote:
>>>
>>>> She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how
>>>> good the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to
>>>> make her bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be
>>>> herself to attract a good core audience.
>>>>
>>>> -- David
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no
>>>> jokes, so the work will be that much harder.
>>>>
>>>> --Dave Sikula
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via
>>>> TVorNotTV  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook
>>>> pages.
>>>>
>>>> I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick
>>>> edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can
>>>> really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume,
>>>> and that takes a lot of work.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner <
>>>> jmetz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know
>>>> they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before,
>>>> but surely they must have made some test shows?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current
>>>> TiVo owners are in this thread?
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
>>>> I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.
>>>>
>>>> I have set a TiVo Season Pass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /Doug
>>>> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
>>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert
>>>> last week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough
>>>> that she won't distract from the guests.
>>>>
>>>> I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"),
>>>> but the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a
>>>> one-off for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll
>>>> be awful (though still better than Byron Allen).
>>>>
>>>> --Dave Sikula
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The CBS reboot of "@midn

Re: [TV orNotTV] Thread on the 60s spiderman animation

2024-01-07 Thread John Edwards

This Spiderman (which I did see a ton of growing up - well into the late
80s) tended to prefer shooting webs at its adversaries.

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> Sure that wasn't "Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends"? B
>
> Kevin M, to Doug Eastick, Jan 6th:
>
> Was this the series where Spidey used to hug/wrestle his enemies due to
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

2024-01-04 Thread John Edwards

Mine reaches that far as well, and is showing After Midnight as an hour-long show. John Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 4, 2024, at 10:50 PM, Jon Delfin wrote:my DVR's guide does reach that far forward, but the show isn't listed yetOn Thu, Jan 4, 2024, 10:38 PM Doug Eastick wrote:I'm still waiting for my TiVo listings to go out to the 16th. I set a One pass for Taylor Tomlinson in the meantime./Doug east...@mcd.on.caOn Thu, Jan 4, 2024, 21:22 Ben Scripps wrote:Nope--"@fter" is a full hour.On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Mark Jeffries wrote:The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653

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Re: [TV orNotTV] D!sney testing multiple, simultaneous, Monday Night Football games

2023-12-05 Thread John Edwards

My guess is that's what they're trying to figure out. The NFL is such a
behemoth now that they could put their games on Tuesday at 3 a.m. and
people would watch.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 6:38 PM PGage  wrote:

> Why is this a good idea? Do they make more money from ads for 2 different
> games on ABC and ESPN than they do from showing one game on both?
>
> When MNF started a lot of the appeal was one game for the whole country to
> watch, after the free for all of Sunday. It’s been a while since the Monday
> game was the week’s highlight, but still the game football fans (and
> players) watch. This just extends the Sunday simulcasts to Monday, and is
> another step towards evenly having football games on every night (save
> Friday and Saturday until mid December). I hate this.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 at 2:34 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
>
>> So people don't have to click through: they've done staggered start times
>> in the past, but this is apparently the first time they've had the game on
>> ABC and the game on ESPN kick off at the same time (and the first time
>> Peyton and Eli have watched both games on the ESPN2 broadcast).
>>
>> Yes, the Fox and CBS rules experts handle multiple games on Sunday
>> afternoons (and all the various networks' rules experts are on multiple
>> college games on Saturday).
>>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2023, at 1:55 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> One week from tonight (Dec 11th). @Buck, Aikman and Salters will be at
>> Packers-Giants on ABC, while ESPN puts Fowler, Riddick, Orlovsky and
>> Rutledge on Titans-Dolphins... rules expert John Parry will have to serve
>> both games (something other nets may or may not have done Sundays?), and
>> even more staggeringly, Peyton and Eli will as well...
>>
>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/disney-tests-monday-night-football-simulcast-espn-abc-1235820816/
>>  (link)
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Top Gear' Put on Hiatus by BBC

2023-11-22 Thread John Edwards

The story acting as if “Freddie” is his real name is hilarious to me. (It’s
Andrew)

He’s made a few public appearances this summer, as he was getting back into
coaching cricket, and it looks like he still has some way to go to recover.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:51 PM Mark Jeffries 
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> The long-running (over 45 years!) automobile show has been taken out of
> production  by the Beeb following an October 22 high-speed crash involving
> host Freddie Flintoff, of which BBC Studios, the for-profit division that
> actually produces the show and most other in-house productions, had to pay
> out an over $11M settlement--the call was made based on an investigation of
> the show's health and safety practices following the crash (which the Beeb
> would not reveal):
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/bbc-axes-top-gear-freddie-flintoff-accident-1235667906/
>
> The overseas licensed versions of "Top Gear" continue (which at this time
> does not include the U.S.).
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Wayne Brady improvises car crash and road rage?

2023-11-20 Thread John Edwards

Wayne Brady finally choked a bitch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxG9jeZBafs_channel=TheMajicDancer

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 6:49 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Not the funniest scene from a hat
>
>
>
> https://fox8.com/news/wayne-brady-involved-in-car-crash-alleged-altercation/amp/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Loteria Loca' Can't Fill Its Bingo Card

2023-11-01 Thread John Edwards

It was weapons-grade stupid but I actually liked it.

That said, any show where they have to spend several minutes at the start
of the show explaining how it works is probably not long for the world.

John

On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:55 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> The CBS game show had been running along with a prime time "The Price is
> Right" on Monday nights against Monday Night Football and "The Voice"--five
> episodes have aired, the Christmas show will air during the holidays and
> the other four episodes will probably burn off on Saturday nights sometime
> in 2024--for now, two weeks of an "NCIS" marathon for the next two Mondays
> and a prime time "Let's Make a Deal" on Nov. 20 and 27 at 9 p.m., in
> between "NCIS" reruns on the 20th and in between the umpteenth airing of
> "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" and an "NCIS" rerun on the 27th:
>
>
> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/loteria-loca-pulled-cbs-schedule-expands-ncis-repeats-1235775634/
>
> Yeah, it's the first apparent cancellation of this strike-affected season.
>
> And the scheduled "Price" episodes will pop up somewhere--they'll just
> have to edit out from this Monday's regular show Drew's plug for the
> nighttime show.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Canadian TV Show Claims Well-Known Singer Is Not Indigenous

2023-10-30 Thread John Edwards

I think you mean Keith Morrison. Speaking of which, this is the type of
story Dateline would have done before it became True Crime Theater.

As for the origins, from the few Indigenous people I know, it does seem
that who is Indigenous is an issue that is of some importance to the
community, but the definitions of who qualifies seem to vary from person
to person. The theoretical issue would be if she was winning awards that
were reserved for Indigneous people when she wasn't. That said, during the
peak of her fame, I don't think such a beast existed given that she was it.

I watched the first three minutes or so, and it didn't really hold my
interest.

On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 2:53 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> I haven't watched the episode in question, but I have seen the series
> before.   It is typical "Investigative Journalism" where they go deep in a
> subject.Can't recall if there is a US equivalent, but I'm thinking of
> Keith Robertson.
>
> I'm really not sure what stirred the origin of this story.
>
>
> /Doug
> east...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023, 9:02 p.m. Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Canadians will have to tell me whether the tone of that story was typical
>> of that series. I found it tainted with so much bias that I couldn’t help
>> but wonder who emotionally wounded the reporter to make him feel that way.
>>
>> I have no vested interest in the ethnicity of the woman in question; I
>> don’t know enough about her to care about her background, but they very
>> clearly did. Everything from the sinister music normally reserved for axe
>> murderers and rapists to the darkened almost noir-like old photos reeked of
>> bias. Maybe she made up her background, or maybe she misunderstood her
>> background, or maybe she simply didn’t know… didn’t matter to the reporter…
>> he was out to tarnish her reputation and destroy her career. That was some
>> truly, remarkably, unbelievably bad television.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 5:31 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's on the 'toob, and not blocked outside Canada...
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMsqCWNCUc4 (link)
>>> B
>>>
>>> Mark Jeffries, Oct 27th:
>>>
>>> Tonight's episode of the CBC's long-running newsmag "The Fifth Estate"
>>> will contain a report supposedly revealing that an "iconic Canadian singer"
>>> is not what she claimed to be for many years--folk singer Buffy
>>> Sainte-Marie, the first indigenous winner of an Oscar in 1982 for
>>> co-writing the "Officer and a Gentleman" theme "Up Where We Belong,"
>>> believes that she is the subject of the report and that the report wrong,
>>> saying that the Canadian pubcaster interviewed her last month her ancestry
>>> and being sexually assaulted as a child and that although she does not know
>>> everything about her ancestry, "I know who I am":
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/buffy-sainte-marie-responds-pretendian-1235628540/
>>>
>>> The above contains a video statement from Sainte-Marie--Americans will
>>> only be able to see the program if they live near the Canadian border and
>>> can pick up a CBC station OTA or on cable or if it is put online.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix' first live sports event

2023-10-17 Thread John Edwards

Come back Superstars, all is forgiven!

John

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 3:26 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> In the mid-eighties BBC2 used to show "International Pro-Celebrity Golf"
> with various pros taking on BBC stars and various other sportsmen.
>
> Here's a listing for a 1983 F1 themed edition featuring Seve Ballesteros
> and James Hunt taking on Lee Trevino and Nigel Mansell!
>
> https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/7337cca245554007a3dbc2fb03f1
>
> Aside from being live, this is basically the same show.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
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>> Four PGA Tour stars (from *Full Swing*) and four drivers from Formula 1
>> racing (and *...Drive to Survive*) are paired off on the links in Vegas
>> (which will host F1 that weekend) for an eight-hole match, with the top two
>> teams advancing to the final hole and a shot at a presumably-attractive
>> trophy... *The Netflix Cup *streams LIVE, 3pm local Nov 14th...
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2023/10/netflix-ive-sports-formula-1-drive-to-survive-full-swing-gran-prix-1235575454/
>>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: SAG-AFTRA Strike Talks on Hold--'Too Far Apart'

2023-10-12 Thread John Edwards

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 2:05 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> Benefits certain LN hosts who aren't ashamed to bring political talk onto
> their platforms, although Colbert's writers now no longer munge the
> ex-POTUS' name during the monologue anymore now that he's been multiply
> indicted...
>

That's too bad. 10-20% of those were funny.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'If You Watch These, You May Want to Come Out...'

2023-08-15 Thread John Edwards

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 5:22 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 12:50 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> Her preferences wouldn’t have changed just because she came out. She was
>> probably choosing to watch shows and movies with a queer sensibility
>> without being conscious of it and Netflix was able to connect the dots
>> before she did.
>>
>
> Wonder what dots Netflix connects between my wife and all the shows she
> watches about serial killers?
>

It will not be recommending any long series to you.

John
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Supermodel Turned Actress Turned Game Show Celeb Dies at 70

2023-08-15 Thread John Edwards

Yes, that was her. Here is a very low-quality YT of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDh91H_R7e8_channel=WilliamIV

John

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 2:53 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> I would say yes, but I'm not sure--perhaps Pluto TV should start a
> "Pyramid Hosted by Dick Clark" channel...
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:49 PM Joe Hass  wrote:
>
>> Refresh my memory: was she the giver of the greatest Pyramid clue of all
>> time ("Oriental women's feet" for "Things That Are Bound")? They wiped all
>> the classic $100,000 Pyramid clips off YouTube a while back.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:25 PM Mark Jeffries 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shelley Smith started out as a model, began acting in the
>>> brilliant-but-cancelled 1979 ABC sitcom "The Associates" and kept a
>>> steady-if-not-spectacular acting career into the 90s, although more people
>>> may've known her better as the celebrity partner a contestant hoped they
>>> would get on "Pyramid" and other shows--in later years, she became a
>>> therapist and launched a program to donate eggs to infertile couples--she
>>> passed last week after experiencing cardiac arrest and going into a coma:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/shelley-smith-dead-model-turned-actress-1235562340/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Streamer Viaplay to close in US, CA, UK

2023-07-20 Thread John Edwards

And it was at this moment I learned that Viaplay was operating in Canada.
(I was aware of their UK operations since they hold some Scottish football
rights and sponsor a tournament.)

John

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> The pan-Nordic company is also laying off 25% of its workforce, to
> concentrate on its core business in its homelands... the new CEO warned
> earlier that revenue/earnings would be sharply below previous forecasts...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/viaplay-layoffs-explore-sale-exit-us-uk-streaming-1235539452/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Canadian cable dispute. Eastlink vs Corus

2023-05-26 Thread John Edwards

Oh no! You’re losing BC-1! Now who will tell you that there are 30-minute
backups on the Lions Gate Bridge into Vancouver?

I do recall Vidéotron (which is my provider) having some carriage disputes
a few years ago, but I don’t recall actually losing any channels for any
length of time.

John

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:08 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> Got a notice from my cable provider. First time I've ever seen this type
> of dispute myself.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.nsbuzz.ca/life/eastlink-customers-losing-33-tv-channels-in-companys-lineup/
>
> Eastlink has notified their customers who subscribe to its cable
> television service that as of June 27, 2023 they will lose access to 33
> television channels and Global OnDemand.
>
> “We are reaching out to let you know on June 27, 2023 Eastlink will no
> longer carry Corus TV channels, which includes HGTV, W Network and
> Showcase.” says the letter to customers. “Global Television will remain in
> your channel lineup.”
>
> Eastlink has told customers that they will do everything they can to
> ensure customer TV viewing experiences continue to meet their needs and
> provides value.
>
> Channels being removed from Eastlink
> Showcase
> History
> HGTV
> W Network
> Slice
> National Geographic
> Food Network
> CMT
> OWN
> YTV
> Disney Channel
> Cartoon Network
> Treehouse
> Disney XD
> Disney Junior
> Movie Time
> BC-1
> DejaView
> DTOUR
> Magnolia Network
> Crime Investigation
> Lifetime
> History 2
> National Geographic Wild
> ABC Spark
> Cooking Channel
> Adult Swim
> Nickelodeon
> Boomerang
> Series Plus
> Historia
> Disney La Chaine
> Teletoon French
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Did they run out of weather?

2023-05-10 Thread John Edwards

They’ve apparently expanded their coverage to include bombingSent from my iPhoneOn May 11, 2023, at 4:12 AM, Brad Beam  wrote:Airing right now on the Weather Channel – “Funny You Should Ask.”



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Americans Can Now Vote for Eurovision

2023-05-10 Thread John Edwards

The only countries who vote in the semis are those contesting those semifinals. For the countries that qualify automatically for the final (the Big 5: France, Germany, UK, Spain, Italy) and the host (Ukraine), they are assigned to one of the two semifinals for voting. JohnSent from my iPhoneOn May 10, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Jim Ellwanger wrote:I happen to be in the U.K. this week - in fact, I was in Liverpool on Monday and Tuesday (I made travel plans without knowing about Eurovision). The city was crazy, in a good way.For reasons that were unexplained on the BBC broadcast, U.K. residents were not allowed to vote for Tuesday night’s semifinalists, but they’re supposedly going to be allowed on Thursday. I would have voted for Norway.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 10, 2023, at 5:54 PM, Kevin M. wrote:That’s what EuroVision was lacking… American tastes and sensibilities! On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 9:30 AM Mark Jeffries wrote:The annual festival of glorious musical overkill is happening this week in Liverpool (since last year's winner the Ukraine has other things on its mind besides a song contest) and is seen for the third year in the U.S. on Peacock. The first semi-final was yesterday, with the second semi tomorrow at 3 p.m. ET and the finals Saturday at 3 p.m. ET. For the first time, you do not have to live in a European Broadcasting Union member country to vote for the entries--you can download the Eurovision app or go to the URL displayed on screen to vote and click "Rest of the World." This gives the viewers votes a slight edge over the alleged music/broadcasting industry panels of judges that also vote for the entries, since there is no "Rest of the World" panel.The onstage hosts this year include "Ted Lasso"'s Hannah Waddingham and they will be joined by Graham Norton for the finals Saturday, the first time onstage for him after several years as BBC1 host, where he continued the tradition of snark of the late longtime host SIr Terry Wogan. Last year, NBC Sports commentator and Eurovision geek Johnny Weir hosted the Peacock coverage, but this year he is only hosting the finals Saturday--and I assume hosting from either Universal City, 30 Rock or Stamford instead of being in Liverpool.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Tucker's Gone At FNC

2023-04-25 Thread John Edwards

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Renewals for the L suite

2023-04-12 Thread John Edwards

Dick Wolf says: Challenge Accepted!

(I think the actual answer is 22 for the returned original and "SVU," 13
for "...Organized Crime.")

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 2:24 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Begs the question: How many times can the same six scripts be recycled?
>
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>> 22 episodes for the returned original and "SVU," 13 for "...Organized
>> Crime."
>>
>>
>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/law-and-order-svu-renewed-organized-crime-nbc-1235577192/
>>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Last of Us" S1 finale does decently despite Oscars competition

2023-03-15 Thread John Edwards

I'm pretty TV is now down to that series, three or four Below Deck
variants, and whatever 90 Day Fiance has metastasized into.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 4:47 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Again, so many people are raving about this series that I have to wonder
> what shows they were watching prior to this that they consider this show to
> be good?
>
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>> 8.2 million folks tuned into or streamed it, topped this season only by
>> the *House of the Dragon* season-ender with 9.3 mil...
>>
>>
>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-last-of-us-season-1-finale-ratings-viewers-1235551465/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Corden's farewell to include Tom Cruise

2023-02-27 Thread John Edwards

I'm pretty sure that CBS had very little idea that Scottish Conan Guy was
actually on their air.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 1:22 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Did CBS give Letterman or Craigy Ferg prime time sendoffs?
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
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>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 11:42 AM M-D November 
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>> Re: Corden - How can we not miss him if he won't go the f**k away?
>>
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 9:17:08 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
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>>> A primetime special April 27th, the night of the actual final episode of
>>> "LLS," is scheduled to include the pair channelling their inner "Lion
>>> King"... (IG post included)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/james-corden-tom-cruise-the-lion-king-late-late-show-final-episode-1235333734/
>>>  (link)
>>>
>>> On a Cruise-related note, Tom Whitlock, a prolific lyricist with over
>>> 100 songs credited including "Danger Zone" and "Take My Breath Away" with
>>> Giorgio Moroder from the first *Top Gun, *passed last week in
>>> Tennessee; 68.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tom-whitlock-dead-top-gun-danger-zone-1235333135/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: For those who thought there is bad blood between Al Michaels and NBC

2023-01-12 Thread John Edwards

Michaels leaving NBC was NBC's choice, not his - probably because they had
backed a dump truck of money to Tirico's house and weren't getting much for
it. There was some speculation that there was bad blood, because people
"noticed" that Al Michaels tended not to mention NBC by name when doing the
NFL-mandated promos for Sunday and Monday Night Football.

John

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> I don’t know the timeline. The first announcement was that NBC wasn’t
> bringing Michaels back and that made sense if Tirico was threatening to
> bolt if he wasn’t given SNF. Later Amazon announced they had signed
> Michaels. It’s always possible the companies and agents worked everything
> out beforehand but that’s not what was presented to the public.
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:24 PM M-D November  wrote:
>
>> Bad blood?  I had just assumed Amazon drove a dump truck full of money up
>> to his house...
>>
>> On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 10:56:54 AM UTC-5 jedwa...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In which Russell Wilson capped off his hilarious season by being roasted
>>> by a cartoon starfish:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6zHky_VXko
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:31 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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>>>
>>>> And for those that wondered, no, Nick did its annual game Christmas
>>>> Day... no playoff game.
>>>>
>>>> https://twitter.com/506sports/status/1612308501262376962 (link)
>>>>
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> Tom Wolper, Jan 11th:
>>>> He is calling NBC’s Saturday night game between the LA Chargers and
>>>> Jacksonville with Tony Dungy. Tirico and Collinsworth will do the Sunday
>>>> night game.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: For those who thought there is bad blood between Al Michaels and NBC

2023-01-12 Thread John Edwards

In which Russell Wilson capped off his hilarious season by being roasted by
a cartoon starfish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6zHky_VXko

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> And for those that wondered, no, Nick did its annual game Christmas Day...
> no playoff game.
>
> https://twitter.com/506sports/status/1612308501262376962 (link)
>
> B
>
> Tom Wolper, Jan 11th:
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> Jacksonville with Tony Dungy. Tirico and Collinsworth will do the Sunday
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Re: [TV orNotTV] C-SPAN wants to keep its own cameras in House chamber longterm

2023-01-10 Thread John Edwards

The Clerk was re-elected during the routine proceedings that took place
immediately after the election of the speaker.


On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:14 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> To be fair, it was a lack of rules, or at least of rules imposed by House
> members, as the only thing that House members could do was elect a
> Speaker.  The last time they needed more than one vote there wasn't
> television.  Anywhere.
>
> The Clerk of the House may have authorized (or didn't object to) the
> additional cameras, as that office would have been the only one with
> authority to do so during this open period, and it likely recognized the
> unusual nature of last week's shenanigans.
>
> FWIW, the Clerk position is elected every two years, after the initial
> House organizing is complete.  Some deference appears to be given to the
> incoming Speaker's preference.  But given the current crop of chowderheads,
> I have no idea what will happen.
>
> David
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 07:22:14 PM PST, 'Bob Jersey' via
> TVorNotTV  wrote:
>
>
> A rules change allowed the nonprofit network to add them to the usual
> government system during the speaker vote... the old way "lacks the
> transparency that C-SPAN, as a journalistic institution, is able to
> provide," griped Susan Swain in a letter to Speaker McCarthy...
>
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/c-span-house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-camera-access-house-2023-1
>  (link;
> watch for paywall)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] How ESPN Covered MNF Medical Emergency

2023-01-03 Thread John Edwards

eartbreaking scene that unfolded on the field in the
>>> aftermath of Damar Hamlin’s collapse during Monday night’s Buffalo
>>> Bills-Cincinnati Bengals game presented a virtually unprecedented scenario
>>> for ESPN’s football broadcast. As the network toggled between the game
>>> broadcast crew in Cincinnati and a subdued studio set in New York, a news
>>> outlet that had prepared to cover one of the season’s biggest games
>>> suddenly found itself covering a medical calamity.
>>>
>>> Viewers at home watched the developing story unfold slowly as
>>> commentators Joe Buck and Troy Aikman and sideline reporter Lisa Salters
>>> received information and relayed it in real time. Over the next three
>>> hours, the broadcast was measured, informative and emotional. Analysts,
>>> hosts and reporters tried to make sense of a lengthy delay and an initial
>>> report that play would resume; grappled with the obvious severity of the
>>> injury; and then finally made impassioned appeals for the game to be
>>> suspended for the night, a choice the NFL eventually made.”
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/01/02/espn-damar-hamlin-bengals-bills/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ABC News brings back Love in the Afternoon

2022-12-06 Thread John Edwards

GMA3 has been kicking around for a while. I want to say it replaced "The
Chew", but I'm not 100% certain. It started as something hosted by Michael
Strahan, Sara Haines and Keke Palmer (?) as a GMA brand extension in the
afternoon - the vibe I recall was somewhere between Hour 3 and Hour 4 of
the Today Show. It went through a couple of mutations with hosts coming in
and out until the pandemic hit. (GMA can't do an actual 3rd hour, with
Kelly 'n' Ryan firmly ensconced there.)

Early in the pandemic, it was replaced by a daily newscast at the time
called "What You Need to Know" which was hosted by Robach and focused on
COVID news (vaguely like Nightline's origins, for those old enough to
remember that), I'm not sure exactly when that show took on the GMA3
branding and morphed back into an Hour 3 of GMA, I think it was the fall of
2021.

As for Question #4, I think the answer to that one is black and white.

John

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 10:53 AM PGage  wrote:

> 1. I literally have never heard of this program until the story started
> circulating.
>
> 2. I am surprised that GMA is produced from the News Division at ABC. Back
> in the day, while Today was an NBC News production, I thought GMA was noted
> by being produced by ABC entertainment. Or am I misremembering that?
>
> 3. The early versions of this story that I read indicated that each of
> these two had been separated from their spouses at the time they started
> hooking up, not that it is really any of our business.
>
> 4. The story mentions the icky case of The Morning Joe couple. Why would
> that have been accepted and this a cause for discipline of some kind? Is it
> because Joe is on cable?
>
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 7:17 AM Brad Beam  wrote:
>
>> “GMA3” is running on substitute hosts for the time being while the news
>> division decides what to do with the co-anchors finding love on the desk,
>> much to the consternation of their spouses.
>>
>> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/abc-news-benches-amy-robach-t-j-holmes-gma3-1235450141/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Kirstie Alley dead at 71

2022-12-05 Thread John Edwards

And nothing of value was lost.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 8:39 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Cancer took her.
>
> She blocked me on Twitter not too long ago.
>
> She seemed to me to be a truly abhorrent individual, but she was great on
> Cheers and she played a sexy Vulcan.
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna60254
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Emerald City sports traffic jam

2022-10-13 Thread John Edwards

After Tuesday, I'm hoping that problem comes to pass. :-)

In general, the Seahawks and Mariners avoid scheduling home games at the
same time, although there have been Sounders and Mariners games at the same
time. There is an agreement in place that dates back to the opening of the
Seahawks stadium that says the Mariners would have priority for playoff
games (not that this has been an issue since 2001...), so I'm guessing 5:30
Eastern (2:30 local) was the latest the NFL would let them go.

I'm going, but I'm glad I'm not driving. Parking for 110,000 people that
afternoon is going to be an absolute madhouse.

John

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> Hearkening back to the days of dual-use stadia, Seattle has a possible
> problem on Sunday.
>
>
>
> Should the Mariners (currently down 1-0) make it to a Game 4 at home, the
> Seahawks game across the street will shift to a 5:30 ET kickoff. (First
> pitch is at 3:07.)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ‘Scrubs’ producer Eric Weinberg charged with sex assaults

2022-10-06 Thread John Edwards

He was binging Scrubs. Awkward!

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:39 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> The arrest was months ago. LA’s mentally deranged DA was clearly not too
> busy charging anyone else with anything… wonder what distracted him? Nap
> time? His stories? Blissful ignorance?
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 8:54 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> Eric Weinberg, an executive producer and writer for the hit TV show
>> “Scrubs” and many others, has been charged with sexually assaulting five
>> women that he lured to photo shoots and there could be many more victims,
>> Los Angeles County prosecutors announced Wednesday.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.kolotv.com/2022/10/06/scrubs-producer-eric-weinberg-charged-with-sex-assaults/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, HM Queen Elizabeth II

2022-09-08 Thread John Edwards

All BBC radio stations are (or were as of an hour ago) on special coverage.

BBC World has been on live coverage since the “concern for her health”
announcement this morning, including riveting coverage of a plane landing
at Aberdeen airport.

The live coverage on the BBC website actually announced the death and then
took a pause so the coverage could break into regular programming and make
the formal announcement with the national anthem.

John

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> According to what I've seen from a reliable TV writer source on Twitter,
> BBC1 is in news coverage mode and has been all day.  BBC2 was carrying the
> BBC1 schedule since this afternoon, but after "Pointless" at 5:15 p.m. and
> an hour of what we call track and field and they call "athletics"
> highlights at 6 p.m. is now simulcasting BBC1.  I'm assuming that BBC World
> News is in on the simulcast and I confirmed that ITV is in coverage mode
> (ITV2 is in normal programming, which right now is "Bob's Burgers").
> Channel 4 went into coverage mode after "The Simpsons" at 6:30 p.m.
> Channel 5 is running a documentary on HM the Queen now, but will go back to
> normal programming at the top of the hour (and did run "Home and Away" as
> normal).
>
> In the states, I assume that Fox is letting the affiliates pick up FNC if
> they wish--WFLD and WPWR in Chicago are sticking to regular
> programming--the programme that is called in the UK "Family Fortunes" on
> the former and some low-end court show on the latter.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
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>
>> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kevin M.
>>
>> *>*Just because this is a TV group, here for posterity is the moment the
>> BBC reported it:
>>
>> *>*
>>
>> *>*https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-21927209
>>
>>
>>
>> As of 3:25et, ABC and NBC are still in Special Report mode. CBS bowed out
>> at 2:30.
>>
>>
>>
>> “As long as I get to watch ‘Moneybags,’” someone in the Home Countries
>> will say….
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CNBC report on Sunday Ticket bidding

2022-06-27 Thread John Edwards

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:44 AM PGage  wrote:

> Also, looks like the NFL wants the rights owner for Sunday Ticket to also
> be a part owner of NFL Media, which runs NFL RedZone, which I always
> thought was basically an alternative and competitor to Sunday Ticket.
>

I’m not sure it’s really a competitor, especially since there’s a version
of RedZone that airs on Sunday Ticket. (The Andrew Siciliano one.)

Sunday Ticket serves people who want to be sure to see their preferred
team, no matter where they live, or people who want to choose the game they
watch in any window without having to deal with the NFL blackout rules
(especially in areas with two teams).

RedZone is more for gamblers, fantasy football players and people who want
to watch highlights rather than one game.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] “Late Late” panel in ‘23?

2022-06-13 Thread John Edwards

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 3:45 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 12:24 PM M-D November 
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed w/r/t Corden's successor.  That being said, I wouldn't be sad to
>> see Comedy Central revive "@Midnight"...
>
>
> Just say no to Hardwick
>

The format was good, and would work in late night, I think. The host is
fungible.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hearings? What Hearings?

2022-06-13 Thread John Edwards

It’s the same on the East Coast. All four US stations I get (even Fox, which is 
normally waist-deep in infomercials right now) has them on. 

John 

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> On Jun 13, 2022, at 10:48 AM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Also, at least on the West Coast, the Hearings are being shown live on all 
> three broadcast networks right now.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 at 7:30 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>> There is no lack of live feeds on YouTube. I just did a quick check and 
>> there was one from PBS Newshour and one from the Washington Post.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 10:21 AM Mark Jeffries  
>>> wrote:
>>> This morning, the second session of the January 6th hearings is not being 
>>> seen on OTA television, with the exception of NBC's subchannel LX, which I 
>>> believe is only on the owned stations.  Yes, it's on CNN, HLN, MSNBC, God 
>>> Bless C-SPAN  and even Fox News (and perhaps CNBC and BBC World News), but 
>>> if you're a cord-cutter and want to watch it, you're probably going to have 
>>> to go online.
>>> 
>>> And from my post from the other day, the stories will still be on this 
>>> afternoon (and if they stick to the two-hour schedule, only the noon ET 
>>> feed of "Y" will be affected).
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fox Fall Annotated--But No Schedule!

2022-06-08 Thread John Edwards

I will actually be a little sad if the Jeopardy powers-that-be get rid of
her, since I’ve come to enjoy the myriad ways her stylists tell us all each
day that they hate her guts.

John

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 9:30 AM Paul Murray  wrote:

> I was going to say, in /r/Jeopardy some people were rooting for Call Me
> Kat's renewal earlier this year. "May it run for years," someone wrote.
>
> I can't say that I disagree. She's okay, but Ken is so much better.
>
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 7:58:12 AM UTC-4 PGage wrote:
>
>> Those calls have already been coming of course, though the renewal does
>> offer a graceful way to end the embarrassing failed Mayim experiment.
>>
>> My hypothesis is that she has already been told she will not be back; it
>> may just be wishful thinking in my part, but I feel like her demeanor and
>> body language in her most recent stint indicate an awareness that she has
>> been canned.
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 5:27 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>>
>>> So "Call Me Kat" has been renewed.  Here come the calls to Michael
>>> Davies to give KenJen the permanent host job on "Jeopardy!"
>>>
>>> Mark Jeffries
>>> spotl...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 4:35 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Welp, they strung me out till today... (east/west)
>>>>
>>>> MONDAY (beginning Sept 19th)
>>>> 8:00-9:00 9-1-1
>>>> 9:00-10:00 The Cleaning Lady
>>>> TUESDAY (beginning Sept 20th)
>>>> 8:00-9:00 The Resident
>>>> 9:00-10:00 Monarch (premieres after football Sept 11th, concludes 20th)
>>>> WEDNESDAY (beginning Sept 21st)
>>>> 8:00-9:00 The Masked Singer
>>>> 9:00-10:00 LEGO Masters
>>>> THURSDAY (beginning Sept *29th*)
>>>> 8:00-9:00 Hell's Kitchen
>>>> 9:00-9:30 Welcome to Flatch
>>>> 9:30-10:00 Call Me Kat
>>>> SUNDAY (beginning Sept 25th)
>>>> 8:00-8:30 Simpsons
>>>> 8:30-9:00 The Great North
>>>> 9:00-9:30 Bob's Burgers
>>>> 9:30-10:00 Family Guy
>>>> Smackdown remains on Friday. Thursday's débuts are delayed while they
>>>> carry a college football special Sept 1st (Penn State at Purdue), Major
>>>> League Baseball pennant-race games the 15th and 22nd, and TBA the 8th.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/fox-sets-fall-2022-schedule-monarch-joins-the-resident-on-tuesdays-cleaning-lady-to-follow-9-1-1-1235285935/
>>>>  (link)
>>>>B
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 5:25:02 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Renewed, both of'em.  Now I'll give'em a day or so to see if they'll
>>>>> keep their word on no times.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://thefutoncritic.com/news/2022/05/16/fox-renews-9-1-1-and-the-resident-263512/20220516fox03/
>>>>>  (link)
>>>>>B
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Jeffries, in part, May 16th:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As the "9-1-1" franchise and "The Resident" are still on the bubble,
>>>>>> there is no fall schedule at Rupert TV's upfront that will be held later
>>>>>> this afternoon. (although they claim they would be doing it even if those
>>>>>> shows got renewed).
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Re: [TV orNotTV] BBC to end linear versions of CBBC and BBC Four

2022-05-26 Thread John Edwards

The cricket has been on Radio Five Live Sports Extra since at least 2005, in 
addition to Radio 4 Long Wave. 

During the cricket, they still announce cutaways for the Shipping Forecast 
(much to the amusement of the foreign commentators), but only Radio 4 LW 
actually cuts away. 

John 

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> On May 26, 2022, at 10:07 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> 
> And it turns out "The Thick of It" went from Four to Two for its third season.
> 
> Turns out that it's Radio 4 Extra, the DAB band drama/comedy library station, 
> that's moving to streaming.  The mainline Radio 4 is going to close up its 
> long wave frequency as soon as it can find new homes for the long wave-only 
> programming (church services, coverage of those marathon cricket matches, 
> some broadcasts of the beloved shipping forecast, although there would be a 
> lot of complaints if the nightly 12:50 a.m. broadcasts on the mainline R4 are 
> even taken off, complete with the lead-in music of that stock library piece 
> "Sailing By").  I suspect the cricket would go to the DAB station Five Live 
> Sports Extra.
> 
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 7:07 PM Brad Beam  wrote:
>> “Fleabag” went from Three to One for its second series although, per Wiki, 
>> by that time Three was concurrently streaming it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Mark Jeffries
>> 
>> 
>> >Adam, considering that a show moving from BBC Two to BBC One was once 
>> >considered the symbol of mass appeal, have any shows other than the 
>> >difficult game show "Only Connect" moved from Three or Four to Two or even 
>> >One?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP RT America

2022-03-18 Thread John Edwards

I don't think anybody was still carrying it, but Canada's regulator did the
same a day or two ago:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/crtc-russia-today-broadcasting-decision-1.6386929

John


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tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ofcom has given their British version the Ziggy as well...
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/rt-news-channel-license-revoked-in-u-k-1235114381/
>  (link)
>
> B
>
> Kevin M, March 3rd:
>
>> The propaganda network that kept Larry King’s two-faces on-air long past
>> his expiration date, then allowed both Dennis Miller and William Shatner to
>> rant about sh*t they knew nothing about, is shutting down. Too bad, so sad.
>>
>> https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/03/media/rt-america-layoffs/index.html
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Random “Picard” observation (no spoilers)

2022-03-17 Thread John Edwards

Does it feature an animatronic duck?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 12:10 AM Jim Ellwanger 
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> I saw that, and wondered if they’d specifically sought out a director who
> had experience with the theme of this week’s episode.
>
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> This week’s episode is directed by Lea Thompson. A quick glance at her
> IMDB page and she’s credited as directing over a dozen different shows
> (mostly sitcoms).
>
> Just thought I’d share.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Capitol Steps hang it up

2022-02-24 Thread John Edwards

I used to rather enjoy Mark Russell although, to be honest, I was about 12
during his heyday in the mid-80s. The Capitol Steps couldn't clean
Russell's novelty piano.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 9:15 PM PGage  wrote:

> I put them half a step below Russell, who was occasionally mildly amusing
> through random chance. The Steps were impressive in being consistently
> unfunny in violation of the laws of probability.
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 3:55 PM  wrote:
>
>> Too hard to tell them apart.
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:22 PM, Paul Murray  wrote:
>>
>> Tom, I need a frame of reference here. Are we talking better, worse, or
>> equivalent to Mark Russell?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 9:36:29 AM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sure the fact they were uniformly unfunny had nothing to do with it.
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 9:00 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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>>>
>>> Whilst perusing that same Poynter 'feed' whence came several reports
>>> today, I also found (by way of an excellent interview with Spike Lee...
>>> yes, he's not dead yet, and it's likely 'cuz he's not arrogant
>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/interactive/2022/spike-lee-911-george-floyd-oscars/>
>>> [link]) a WaPo Magazine postscript to the comedy troupe born in the early
>>> 80s from staffers for moderate Illinois US Sen. Charles Percy... blame
>>> COVID, natch...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2022/02/16/capitol-steps-comedy-troupe-folds/
>>>  (link)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Status quo for Olympics on Peacock

2022-02-03 Thread John Edwards

Hopefully, they're half as funny as she thinks she is.

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 17:58, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Nolan to create short-form content for all NBCO platforms.
>
> https://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/2022/02/03/katie-nolan-joins-nbc-olympics-team-for-2022-winter-games/
>  (link)
>B
>
> Moi, to Mark Jeffries, Jan 6th:
>
>> I'll settle for Kenny Mayne and whatever cutie they sit alongside him in
>> bee-yoo-tiful downtown Stamford... Katie Nolan might be available. B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Whoopi Goldberg apologizes for saying Holocaust 'isn't about race' | TheHill

2022-02-02 Thread John Edwards

More like "Whoopsi" Goldberg, amIrite?

(I'm here all week, folks. Try the veal.)

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 at 22:52, Steve Timko  wrote:

> ABC suspends Whoopi for two weeks. I dunno. Seems kind of harsh given that
> she already apologized.
>
> https://apnews.com/article/whoopi-goldberg-apology-the-holocaust-jonathan-greenblatt-4a4c77055d7bb1c37662fc9b274a8869
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> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 6:57 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
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>>
>> https://thehill.com/homenews/media/592197-whoopi-goldberg-apologizes-for-saying-holocaust-isnt-about-race
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Delivers Heroin Hit This Weekend

2022-01-25 Thread John Edwards

The CFL rule is that a ball kicked into the end zone, and not brought out,
results in a single point. It's not necessarily after a touchdown.

I'll note that the CFL has the loss of down for delay of game penalty, but
only in the last three minutes of each half. That's particularly damaging
given that the CFL only has 3 downs.

John

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> My ideas would speed up the regulation game, and reduce the possibiility
> of OT.
> -- Play-clock violation = loss of down, not yardage
> -- Replace half-the-distance penalties with TDs or safeties, as applicable
> -- Award TDs for defensive pass interference in end zone
> -- If an interception (in-field and beyond line of scrimmage) is not
> advanced, next play is at previous line of scrimmage
> -- In regular-season games, tie = loss for both teams, not half-and-half,
> 'cuz neither team won
> I am still in favor of the CFL's "single" after TDs coming south, as I
> have been since seeing my first rouge scored thanks to ESPN generations
> ago, but won't pursue it here. B
>
> PGage, to David Lynch and moi, Jan 24th:
>
>> I despise the College rule.
>>
>> I was not crazy about moving to the current rule, but it was justified by
>> the large advantage the receiving team has in scoring a FG. A team that
>> played decent defense and stopped a TD often still lost. That is no longer
>> true, and I think the current rule works pretty well. If you don’t want to
>> lose on the first TD of OT, win in regulation, of okay better defense.
>>
>> Now, the alternative that does make sense is that, in the post-season,
>> play extra quarters (maybe at shorter intervals), like the NBA does. That
>> would risk the first game of a postseason schedule day bleeding over
>> against the second, which they really don’t want, plus football is hard
>> enough that the injury risks associated with potentially 20 or 30 minutes
>> of additional play may be significant.
>>
>> As a Chiefs fan who felt royally screwed after the 2018 (January 2019)
>>> AFC championship came down to a very similar-feeling OT win by the
>>> Patriots, not even being on the other side of that equation has changed my
>>> opinion that the first possession shouldn't be sudden death. I think the
>>> current system is fine for the regular season, but I'd like to see both
>>> teams given a chance on offense/required to play defense when there's more
>>> at stake.
>>>
>>> For me, it would just be a matter of changing the current rule to be the
>>> game not ending on the first drive in the event of a field goal or a
>>> touchdown by the team on offense. No need to go all the way to college
>>> style overtime, which I've seen some propose.
>>>
>>> If one has to do with Overtime, I reject it sight unseen. It sucks for
>>>> the Bills that Josh did not get to touch the ball in OT, but defense is
>>>> part of the game too…
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Re: [TV orNotTV] eSports, etc: Microsoft makes bid for Activision Blizzard

2022-01-18 Thread John Edwards

Get set for some Call of Duty brand integration….



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> This seems like a bad idea 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:19 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>>  wrote:
>> $95/share, well above the Major League Gaming parent's current price... even 
>> with Blizzard's workplace-toxicity issues, I wonder if the DOJ will let this 
>> go...
>> 
>> https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/microsoft-to-buy-activision-blizzard-1235156048/
>>  (link)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: American Auto

2021-12-24 Thread John Edwards

Better Off Ted was brilliant, and I think I still have Casual Fribsday
listed as an event in my calendar.

On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 10:39 PM PGage  wrote:

> Loved BOT…
>
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 6:09 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Not a new premise, not new jokes, not good casting. The premise of the
>> pilot episode is borrowed quite a bit from an episode of Better Off Ted,
>> which was a favorite show of mine that nobody watched. Better Off Ted did
>> it better.
>>
>> Episodes 1 & 2 on the Hulu
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Flexin' the football

2021-11-25 Thread John Edwards

This replaces the Seahawks-49ers crapstravaganza that seemed like a good
idea back in March.

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> Kansas City/Denver on Dec 5th switched to NBC and Peacock...
>
>
> https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/23/nfl-flexes-chiefs-broncos-to-sunday-night-football-in-week-13/
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN’s Adam Schefter crosses a journalistic line

2021-10-16 Thread John Edwards

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 21:19, Steve Timko  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 4:20 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> I won’t claim to know whether Schefter is a serious journalist, but for
>> serious in-depth stories (where libel laws can bite reporters in the ass),
>> it would be allowed (in some cases even expected) to send rough drafts to
>> sources or subjects named in the piece for review.
>>
> I know of no major news organization that toes this.
>

Yeah, there's fact-checking, and sending quotes back for verification, but
this seemed a whole other level. It's a symptom of how NFL types and the
"insider" reporters are way too chummy. Also, nothing Schefter is doing is
serious or in-depth, unless announcing what Tom Brady had for breakfast
counts.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] DISH TV dumps AT SportsNet and Root Sports

2021-10-01 Thread John Edwards

Earlier this summer, ROOT NW also scooped up the rights to the Portland
Trail Blazers from NBC Sports Northwest, causing the latter network's
demise (they went off the air yesterday). So I'd say Dish should also avoid
calls from the 503 area code, too.

On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 10:03, Brad Beam  wrote:

> It’s also not going to bode well for hockey fans in the American Northwest
> as Root NW is the home of the first-year Kraken.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > 
> > This is going to cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth in and around
> Seattle. The Mariners, who own ROOT Sports NW, are on the cusp of making
> the playoffs for the first time in 20 years, with their final series of the
> year starting tonight. If I were Dish Customer Service, I might not answer
> calls from the 206 area code
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Re: [TV orNotTV] DISH TV dumps AT SportsNet and Root Sports

2021-10-01 Thread John Edwards

This is going to cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth in and around
Seattle. The Mariners, who own ROOT Sports NW, are on the cusp of making
the playoffs for the first time in 20 years, with their final series of the
year starting tonight. If I were Dish Customer Service, I might not answer
calls from the 206 area code

On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 19:53, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> This is the same press release every provider uses whenever they have a
> channel dispute. "GleepGlorp made this consumer-friendly proposal to
> JubJubTV, but they refused it."
>
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
>
> A DISH press release
>
> *AT SportsNet and Root Sports Removed from DISH TV*
>
>-  DISH proposes new model that is fair to both customers and station
>owners
>
>
> *ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Sept. 30, 2021 *– AT SportsNet and Root Sports
> Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) were removed from DISH TV today. With this
> removal, DISH TV customers will no longer have access to AT SportsNet
> Rocky Mountain (ATTRM), AT SportsNet Pittsburgh (ATTPT) and Root Sports
> Northwest (RTNW).
>
>
> “The current RSN model is fundamentally broken,” said Brian Neylon, group
> president, DISH TV. “This model requires nearly all customers to pay for
> RSNs when only a small percentage of customers actually watch them.”
>
>
> AT SportsNet and Root Sports RSNs are demanding rates that would be
> passed on to nearly every customer, whether they watch RSNs or not. This
> inequitable model has become antiquated due to the rise of a la carte
> viewing options and specialized streaming services.
>
>
> “Our proposal to offer sports fans access to RSNs is simple, and provides
> choice and value to all of our customers,” added Neylon. “It would allow
> DISH TV customers to choose to subscribe to the RSN channels they want —
> such as the regional AT SportsNet and Root Sports networks — on an a la
> carte basis, similar to premium subscription channels. With this updated
> RSN model, no customer would be forced to pay for content they don’t watch,
> and the RSNs would determine the price customers would pay for their
> channels.”
>
>
> DISH made this consumer-friendly proposal to AT SportsNet and Root
> Sports, but they refused it. They instead chose to continue demanding rates
> that are unreasonable to pass on to our customers. DISH remains open to
> working with the RSNs to offer sports content in a way that provides choice
> and value to all customers.
>
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Katie Nolan quits ESPN

2021-09-30 Thread John Edwards

I think that was more like four years ago. 12 years ago she was fangirling
Tom Brady, but not on TV.

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> from Fox, she débuted a twice-daily SportsCenter just for Snapchat
> <https://groups.google.com/g/tvornottv/c/ptwfVVjO8zs/m/lNslq1pFAQAJ>
>  (link)...
>
> https://twitter.com/katienolan/status/1443274173024018437 (link)
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/katie-nolan-espn-departure-1235077279/
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: CBC election night ... Opening drone video

2021-09-20 Thread John Edwards

It's a little more complicated than that, but not by much. Conservative
gains from the Liberals were offset by losses to the NDP, and some seats
where they were spoiled by the far-right (read MA FREEDUMBS) "People's
Party" who seemed to poll pretty much 5% everywhere - enough to affect
close enough but not close enough to win anything. The NDP was helped by
the Green Party (which is further left) cratering. It kept its two seats,
but elsewhere was a non-factor.

The results from tonight are roughly the same as 2019, with each party
within three seats of what they were at when Parliament dissolved, so yes,
PGage is right. This was a $600 million waste of time and an election where
there really no winners.

John

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> Obviously the final numbers aren't in, but it looks like the Liberals went
> to a lot of trouble to lose a couple more seats from the 2019 election -
> not to the Tories (who stayed pretty much level) but the further-left NDP.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 21, 2021, at 00:06, PGage  wrote:
> >
> > Maybe the Canadians here can explain the nuances, but this, like
> California Recall, seems like a pretty big waste of time and money.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] UK comedian and panel show mainstay Sean Lock passes

2021-08-18 Thread John Edwards

I love 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown, almost more than regular Countdown.

For anyone interested in Sean Lock's work, I can safely say that if you
Google "Carrot in a box" you won't be disappointed.

John

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> I'd recently dived into UK panel show clips on YouTube, and gravitated
> toward those programs that didn't require a high level of UK-specific
> knowledge to follow the action.
>
> One of those programs was 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown, a loosely
> organized series of bits interrupted by letter and number puzzles.  Sean
> Lock was one of the regular panelists and a ridiculously funny fellow of
> the absurdist curmudgeon variety.  He passed today of cancer, aged 58.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2021/aug/18/comedian-sean-lock-dies-aged-58
>
> Channel 4, which airs 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown (and the two
> programs that spawned it), put together a short clip, but I'd encourage
> people to seek the longer clips or complete episodes he appears in.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRPngk5QyK4
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Re: [TV orNotTV] And the new “Jeopardy!” host is rumored to be…

2021-08-04 Thread John Edwards



> On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:26 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 6:19 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>>  wrote:
>> Err, I meant Les Moonves*facepalm*
> 
> That’s good, because people live and die based on Les Nessman’s hog future 
> reports 

Hey, those Buckeye Newshawk awards didn’t come for nothing….

John


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Olympics 2021 TV

2021-07-29 Thread John Edwards

 people NBC have in Tokyo, but many events on the BBC and Eurosport are
>>>> being called from the UK/France (Eurosport's HQ is in Paris) rather than in
>>>> Japan. That's pretty unusual. Obviously there are still reporters on the
>>>> ground for interviews/features. But far fewer.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to learn lots of technical detail about how OBS operates,
>>>> there's a lot here:
>>>> https://www.sportsvideo.org/2021/07/27/live-from-tokyo-olympics-obs-technical-area-offers-inside-look-at-how-the-games-come-together/
>>>>
>>>> It's all being made in 4K, although in the UK nobody is showing it that
>>>> way. The audio is captured 5.1.4. The 5.1 is regular Surround Sound and the
>>>> .4 is for "ceiling" speakers - think Dolby Atmos without the branding.
>>>> Apparently there are 16 "channels" of sport being produced from Tokyo. So
>>>> that's the maximum number of simultaneous feeds you could be watching!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Olympics 2021 TV

2021-07-26 Thread John Edwards

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Re: [TV orNotTV] cbc olypmics on Prime Video- does it work in USA

2021-07-26 Thread John Edwards

Perhaps Amazon is paying the CBC for that? With HNIC gone, the only big
sports property left that the CBC can capitalize on is the Olympics.

John

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 14:56, Doug Eastick  wrote:

> CBC's Tokyo Olympics coverage will be available on Amazon Prime Video
> (msn.com)
> <https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/cbc-s-tokyo-olympics-coverage-will-be-available-on-amazon-prime-video/ar-AAMkIjd>
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>
> I'm curious if it is accessible to US subscribers?
>
> As a Canadian, I do find it odd that they are sharing it on Prime.The
> CBC has many streaming options (Gem app, and desktop) for olympic coverage.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Canada opening border to vaxxed Yanks Aug 9

2021-07-20 Thread John Edwards

There hasn't been any serious movement in Vancouver that I've seen. They do
have a domed stadium that hosted some exhibition games in the 80s and 90s,
but after Edgar Martinez got injured on its bad turf those stopped.
Vancouver would need a brand new stadium, and I don't think anyone with
stupid amounts of money has stepped up yet. I think the corporate money in
Canada is more inclined to another Montreal team than one in Vancouver.

John

On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 12:12, M-D November  wrote:

> Speaking of the A's, I know Vegas is on the board (although they're going
> to need to build an indoor stadium for that to be practical - who's going
> to want to play baseball in the summer outside in the middle of the
> desert?), but I wonder if MLB is looking north at Vancouver?  It would keep
> the A's in the same division (and make trips to Seattle convenient), expand
> the Canadian market, and...well, I'm sure there are other benefits.
>  (Access to CW TV production sites?)
>
> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 11:07:24 AM UTC-4 jedwa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Jim, I suspect you're right. It feels like Montreal is being used to
>> threaten Tampa Bay, in the same way that Las Vegas is being used to get a
>> new stadium built in Oakland.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 00:27, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
>>
>>> As probably the only Rays fan on this list… I’m fairly well convinced
>>> that the “split season” situation isn’t going to actually happen, it’s just
>>> the Rays trying to pit the two cities against each other in order to see
>>> which one is going to build a new stadium first.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2021, at 9:24 PM, John Edwards  wrote:
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. I presume the Jays will be strongly encouraged to get
>>> vaccinated (if they haven’t already). As for the the visiting teams, they’d
>>> be subject to MLB’s protocol, which makes things much easier for teams that
>>> are 85% vaxxed and probably basically bubbling while they’re in Toronto. If
>>> they stay in the hotel that’s attached to the Rogers Centre, they really
>>> don’t even need to leave the building.
>>>
>>> The Tampa-Montreal thing won’t happen until 2028 at the earliest, unless
>>> the Rays find a way to get out of their lease.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:20 AM M-D November 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What’s interesting is that MLB is still not requiring players &
>>>> personnel to vaccinate. Presumably that will change for the Blue Jays (and
>>>> for anyone scheduled to play them at home).
>>>>
>>>> (Aside: was this the year the TB Rays were supposed to start splitting
>>>> the season between St. Pete & Montreal?)
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 8:46:31 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not mentioned: About a week and a half after the Blue Jays return to
>>>>> their stadium after Buffalo exile...
>>>>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/canada-vaccinated-americans-august-9-1235023325/
>>>>>  (link)
>>>>>
>>>>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Canada opening border to vaxxed Yanks Aug 9

2021-07-20 Thread John Edwards

Jim, I suspect you're right. It feels like Montreal is being used to
threaten Tampa Bay, in the same way that Las Vegas is being used to get a
new stadium built in Oakland.

John

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> As probably the only Rays fan on this list… I’m fairly well convinced that
> the “split season” situation isn’t going to actually happen, it’s just the
> Rays trying to pit the two cities against each other in order to see which
> one is going to build a new stadium first.
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2021, at 9:24 PM, John Edwards  wrote:
>
> Not necessarily. I presume the Jays will be strongly encouraged to get
> vaccinated (if they haven’t already). As for the the visiting teams, they’d
> be subject to MLB’s protocol, which makes things much easier for teams that
> are 85% vaxxed and probably basically bubbling while they’re in Toronto. If
> they stay in the hotel that’s attached to the Rogers Centre, they really
> don’t even need to leave the building.
>
> The Tampa-Montreal thing won’t happen until 2028 at the earliest, unless
> the Rays find a way to get out of their lease.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:20 AM M-D November 
> wrote:
>
>> What’s interesting is that MLB is still not requiring players & personnel
>> to vaccinate. Presumably that will change for the Blue Jays (and for anyone
>> scheduled to play them at home).
>>
>> (Aside: was this the year the TB Rays were supposed to start splitting
>> the season between St. Pete & Montreal?)
>>
>> On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 8:46:31 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>>> Not mentioned: About a week and a half after the Blue Jays return to
>>> their stadium after Buffalo exile...
>>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/canada-vaccinated-americans-august-9-1235023325/
>>>  (link)
>>>
>>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Canada opening border to vaxxed Yanks Aug 9

2021-07-19 Thread John Edwards

Not necessarily. I presume the Jays will be strongly encouraged to get
vaccinated (if they haven’t already). As for the the visiting teams, they’d
be subject to MLB’s protocol, which makes things much easier for teams that
are 85% vaxxed and probably basically bubbling while they’re in Toronto. If
they stay in the hotel that’s attached to the Rogers Centre, they really
don’t even need to leave the building.

The Tampa-Montreal thing won’t happen until 2028 at the earliest, unless
the Rays find a way to get out of their lease.

John

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:20 AM M-D November  wrote:

> What’s interesting is that MLB is still not requiring players & personnel
> to vaccinate. Presumably that will change for the Blue Jays (and for anyone
> scheduled to play them at home).
>
> (Aside: was this the year the TB Rays were supposed to start splitting the
> season between St. Pete & Montreal?)
>
> On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 8:46:31 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>> Not mentioned: About a week and a half after the Blue Jays return to
>> their stadium after Buffalo exile...
>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/canada-vaccinated-americans-august-9-1235023325/
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Law & Order: Gun toting actors unit

2021-07-19 Thread John Edwards

Method acting has officially gone too far!

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 12:51 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Isaiah Stokes fired multiple rounds and killed Tyrone Jones. There is
> apparently video.
>
>
> https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/nyc-television-actor-indicted-for-murder-in-brazen-afternoon-shooting/3159694/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBA ratings: Better than last year, not up to pre-pandemic numbers

2021-07-15 Thread John Edwards

I-95 between Boston and Washington, LA and Chicago.

That's it.

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tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I know Milwaukee isn't a major market, but Phoenix is the10th biggest
> metro in the country.  What qualifies as a major market?  Just NY, LA and
> Chicago?
>
> David
>
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021, 4:32:27 PM PDT, Steve Timko <
> steveti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Considering neither team is a major market, the ratings aren't bad.
>
>
> https://apnews.com/article/business-entertainment-sports-basketball-canada-49a80dcc4773e62ed930a50b94b3ab3d
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN staffer says colleague got NBA assignment because she is black

2021-07-04 Thread John Edwards

This version wasn't leaked by Nichols. It appears the Times is working with
the full version that was downloaded by an ESPN employee.

Nichols might, however, have leaked a version of the story to (the new and
definitely not improved) Deadspin last year, as their story was
super-friendly to her, focusing on the fact that the video existed and was
passed around ESPN, rather than what she and the other person said.

I suspect that the NYT story might explain why details of Taylor's contract
negotiations were leaked to the NY Post (presumably by ESPN management) and
may be part of why those negotiations don't seem to have gone anywhere.

And, yes, PGage is right, if it came out that Jim Acosta vented to Jen
Psaki about CNN assignments and other assorted palace intrigue, it would be
a huge scandal. In sports, it just gets a shrug.

John

On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 at 16:47, Steve Timko  wrote:

> It appears she accidentally leaked audio.
>
>
> https://sports.yahoo.com/rachel-nichols-leaked-diversity-comments-about-maria-taylor-causes-uproar-at-espn-161546834.html
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Re: [TV orNotTV] USA Network showing Hockey?

2021-06-21 Thread John Edwards

There's no Law & Order in the playoffs

On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 at 20:21, Stan S  wrote:

> You sure it wasn’t Law & Order:  NHL?
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4 danieland...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, i better get used to USA preempting Law & Order reruns for NASCAR
>> or IndyCar next year..
>>
>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 11:16:29 AM UTC-4 Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>>
>>> NBCSN is shutting down by the end of the year, to be replaced by having
>>> sports on USA and Peacock, and they’re already trying to “train” viewers to
>>> look for sports on USA. (Note that this is also NBC’s last Stanley Cup
>>> playoffs… ESPN and Turner take over NHL rights for the 2021-22 season.)
>>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2021, at 8:09 AM, danieland...@gmail.com <
>>> danieland...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, i switched to USA and they were showing Hockey. Was it
>>> because  Wave II of the U.S. Olympic Team Trials for swimming was on NBCSN,
>>> or was it NBC's choice to show hockey on a channel not usually carrying
>>> sports?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Country-music couple "would consider" a talk show together

2021-06-09 Thread John Edwards

Kelly Clarkson and Drew Barrymore have shown how it’s possible to do. The
advantage any show trying it from now on would have is that people have
spent 18 months figuring out how to do it.

John

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:54 PM Karen Owen  wrote:

> TNN (The Nashville Network) used to have 2 regular talk shows.
>
> Crook and Chase hosted by Lorraine Crook and Charlie Chase
>
> and Nashville Now hosted by Ralph Emery and co-hosted by
>
> puppet Shotgun Red.   I didn't watch these regularly but I
>
> think they concentrated on Nashville music celebrity guests
>
> or movie/TV people who were working in Nashville.
>
> If they don't need in person guests anybody could do a talk show
>
> from anywhere but it would have to have better production
>
> values than the shows people are doing on YouTube from their
>
> basements.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Anderson Cooper talks to Ken Jennings about hosting Jeopardy

2021-04-22 Thread John Edwards

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 20:03, Kevin M.  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 4:44 PM Diner  wrote:
>
>> Just saw AC's first Jeopardy. I thought he did a solid job.
>>
>
> Was he “keeping ‘em honest”?
>

No, that's incorrect.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Piers Morgan quits/is fired from morning show

2021-04-02 Thread John Edwards

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 12:13 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> Piers Morgan's first interview will be with Tucker Carlson.
>>
>>
>> https://www.poynter.org/newsletters/2021/no-surprise-here-piers-morgans-first-post-controversy-interview-will-be-with-tucker-carlson/
>>
>
> It won’t be an interview. It’ll be a dual masturbatory jerk-fest.
>

Dude! It’s lunchtime on the East Coast!

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Aussie Net Hacked, Live Programming Affected

2021-03-29 Thread John Edwards

Sorry, yes, I stand corrected. I knew that Nine and Fairfax had merged, but
I forgot who owned what between Kerry Packer and Rupert Murdoch.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 17:53, Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> The influential Australian media family in this case is--or should I say
> was--the Packer family.  Nine merged a few years ago with Fairfax, who owns
> Murdoch's main competition in Melbourne and Sydney and is the only major
> newspaper owner in the country besides Murdoch.  Murdoch's only TV holdings
> are the Foxtel cable/satellite system, which includes Sky News Australia,
> or Fox News Channel with an accent.  He did have some other TV holdings for
> a while a long time ago.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:29 PM John Edwards  wrote:
>
>> Did they insert a monkey playing cymbals? That would have been an
>> improvement over Nine's morning shows
>>
>> It's worth pointing out that Nine is owned by Rupert Murdoch, so that may
>> have made it an attractive target for the hackers, particularly if they
>> feel that Murdoch's news operations are steering Australian policy against
>> China.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 11:51, Mark Jeffries 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nine Network, one of the two commercial networks in Australia that
>>> dominate the ratings in that country, suffered a weekend cyberattack that
>>> affected their news and current affairs departments and wreaked havoc on
>>> live programming on Sunday (including their morning show "Today") and the
>>> news department's web site:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/australias-channel-nine-suffers-cyber-attack-disruption-to-live-broadcasts
>>>
>>> Nine says that it may take weeks for its news operations to return to
>>> normal.  Besides "Today" and the flagship 6 p.m. regional newscasts, the
>>> net's best-known news/current affairs product includes the nightly tabmag
>>> "A Current Affair" (inspiration for the American series of the 80s) and
>>> their version of "60 Minutes," which has stayed on the air despite
>>> ViacomCBS (owners of competing Network 10) only renewing the title and
>>> format rights and not the rights to use stories from the American version.
>>>
>>> Some believe that the Chinese government may be involved in the
>>> hack--the two counties have not been on speaking terms as of late.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: “The Talk” on “The Hiatus”

2021-03-29 Thread John Edwards

Question for Piers Morgan: how can we miss you if you don't go away?

John

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 13:59, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> And that lights a new fire under Piers, given that Sheryl hasn't (yet)
> been taken to task for her side of the story... he's also hissed at CBS for
> the Woody Allen interview (q.v.)...
> https://deadline.com/2021/03/piers-morgan-cbs-sharon-osbourne-woody-allen-1234723581/
>  (link)
>
> B
>
> Joe Hass, Mar 26th:
>
>> Sharon gone.
>>
>>
>> https://www.thedailybeast.com/sharon-osbourne-wont-host-the-talk-any-longer
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Aussie Net Hacked, Live Programming Affected

2021-03-29 Thread John Edwards

Did they insert a monkey playing cymbals? That would have been an
improvement over Nine's morning shows

It's worth pointing out that Nine is owned by Rupert Murdoch, so that may
have made it an attractive target for the hackers, particularly if they
feel that Murdoch's news operations are steering Australian policy against
China.

John

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 11:51, Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Nine Network, one of the two commercial networks in Australia that
> dominate the ratings in that country, suffered a weekend cyberattack that
> affected their news and current affairs departments and wreaked havoc on
> live programming on Sunday (including their morning show "Today") and the
> news department's web site:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/australias-channel-nine-suffers-cyber-attack-disruption-to-live-broadcasts
>
> Nine says that it may take weeks for its news operations to return to
> normal.  Besides "Today" and the flagship 6 p.m. regional newscasts, the
> net's best-known news/current affairs product includes the nightly tabmag
> "A Current Affair" (inspiration for the American series of the 80s) and
> their version of "60 Minutes," which has stayed on the air despite
> ViacomCBS (owners of competing Network 10) only renewing the title and
> format rights and not the rights to use stories from the American version.
>
> Some believe that the Chinese government may be involved in the hack--the
> two counties have not been on speaking terms as of late.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Beginning of the End for Ellen?

2021-03-24 Thread John Edwards

Rachael Ray's show, at least the syndicated one, has always been a talk
show, with frequent cooking segments.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 13:54, PGage  wrote:

> Rachel Ray? Isn’t that a cooking show? Is it now some kind of crossover
> Cooking/Talk show?
>
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 10:36 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Tamron Hall has a show.
>> Rachael Ray still has a daytime talk show.
>> Yeah, Maury lives.  Maybe he got the longevity gene from his pops, who
>> lived into his 90s.
>> No clue about Steve.  Is Harvey's show still a thing?  I know that Jerry
>> Springer's head of security was Steve and got his own show.  Could be him.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 10:22:42 AM PDT, PGage 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There was a fairly long period of time when, even though the last daytime
>> talk shows I watched with any frequency were Mike Douglas and Donahue, I
>> was at least pretty familiar with the names and the Schtick of most of the
>> programs on air. That has not been true for a long time now. I am familiar
>> with the first two, top rated programs Mark mentions, and have seen a few
>> episodes of each (well, not seen Ripa since she got rid of Regis), but have
>> little or no awareness that the others exist. But from context and spotty
>> memory of pop culture references, let me guess:
>>
>> Tamron: I can only guess, since the only TV person I know named Tamron is
>> Tamron Hall. Does she really have a daytime talk show?
>>
>> Kelly C: This I can guess with confidence, since I do watch The Voice,
>> and heard Kelly Clarkston argue recently that the reason a contestant
>> should pick her is she has a talk show.
>>
>> Maury: WTF? Are you saying A) Maury Povitch is still alive and B) that he
>> still has a talk show? I would have lost $500 betting that neither of those
>> was true.
>>
>> Rachel: No Clue. Maddow is the only TV Rachel I can think of, and pretty
>> sure she is not doing a daytime talk show.
>>
>> Steve: No Clue. Pretty sure it’s not Steve Allen.
>>
>> What about the female gaggle talk shows? Are they not in the same
>> category as the single/double host shows? Are their ratings closer to the
>> top tier or the middle tier?
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 9:13 AM Mark Jeffries 
>> wrote:
>>
>> After all of the stories about the toxicity of Ellen DeGeneres' workplace
>> and the firing of producers for Telepictures who had been creating similar
>> waste dump workplaces for Warner Bros. daytime talkers for years, the
>> ratings have gone down from up there with Dr. Phil and Kelly R. and
>> Seacrest to the middle of the pack with Tamron, Kelly C., Maury, Rachael
>> and Steve--in addition, her prime time NBC show "Ellen's Torture Cham--Game
>> of Games" has taking a ratings dump this season--could this mean that the
>> 2021-22 season, the last under her current Warners contract, could be her
>> last?:
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/business/media/ellen-degeneres-ratings-decline.html?smtyp=cur=tw-nytimesbusiness
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Beginning of the End for Ellen?

2021-03-24 Thread John Edwards

I think the Steve here is Steve Wilkos, Springer's ex-head of security.
Steve Harvey's talk show was cancelled a few years ago, I think.

John

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 13:36, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Yes, Tamron Hall has a show.
> Rachael Ray still has a daytime talk show.
> Yeah, Maury lives.  Maybe he got the longevity gene from his pops, who
> lived into his 90s.
> No clue about Steve.  Is Harvey's show still a thing?  I know that Jerry
> Springer's head of security was Steve and got his own show.  Could be him.
>
> David
>
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 10:22:42 AM PDT, PGage 
> wrote:
>
>
> There was a fairly long period of time when, even though the last daytime
> talk shows I watched with any frequency were Mike Douglas and Donahue, I
> was at least pretty familiar with the names and the Schtick of most of the
> programs on air. That has not been true for a long time now. I am familiar
> with the first two, top rated programs Mark mentions, and have seen a few
> episodes of each (well, not seen Ripa since she got rid of Regis), but have
> little or no awareness that the others exist. But from context and spotty
> memory of pop culture references, let me guess:
>
> Tamron: I can only guess, since the only TV person I know named Tamron is
> Tamron Hall. Does she really have a daytime talk show?
>
> Kelly C: This I can guess with confidence, since I do watch The Voice, and
> heard Kelly Clarkston argue recently that the reason a contestant should
> pick her is she has a talk show.
>
> Maury: WTF? Are you saying A) Maury Povitch is still alive and B) that he
> still has a talk show? I would have lost $500 betting that neither of those
> was true.
>
> Rachel: No Clue. Maddow is the only TV Rachel I can think of, and pretty
> sure she is not doing a daytime talk show.
>
> Steve: No Clue. Pretty sure it’s not Steve Allen.
>
> What about the female gaggle talk shows? Are they not in the same category
> as the single/double host shows? Are their ratings closer to the top tier
> or the middle tier?
>
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 9:13 AM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
> After all of the stories about the toxicity of Ellen DeGeneres' workplace
> and the firing of producers for Telepictures who had been creating similar
> waste dump workplaces for Warner Bros. daytime talkers for years, the
> ratings have gone down from up there with Dr. Phil and Kelly R. and
> Seacrest to the middle of the pack with Tamron, Kelly C., Maury, Rachael
> and Steve--in addition, her prime time NBC show "Ellen's Torture Cham--Game
> of Games" has taking a ratings dump this season--could this mean that the
> 2021-22 season, the last under her current Warners contract, could be her
> last?:
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/business/media/ellen-degeneres-ratings-decline.html?smtyp=cur=tw-nytimesbusiness
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL - new TV rights deal

2021-03-19 Thread John Edwards

That depends on what the NFL’s contract with TSN says. I know NFL Network runs 
alternate programming in Canada during games. 

John 

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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm curious if Thursday night on Amazon is only in USA. Or if it applies 
> in Canada as well.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu., Mar. 18, 2021, 5:14 p.m. Adam Bowie,  wrote:
>> I see the new NFL deal has been done:
>> 
>> https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-new-broadcast-deals-running-through-2033-season
>> 
>> Amazon gets Thursday nights exclusively outside local markets of the two 
>> teams. Everyone else broadly as-is, except that they can put their games on 
>> Peacock, Paramount+ and whatever Fox comes up with.
>> 
>> I don't see any mention of Sunday Ticket though...
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:59 PM PGage  wrote:
>>> As you say, it will be interesting to see how the calculations come out. 
>>> 
>>> Amazon is the sponsor of The Red Zone, and streams I think both SNL and 
>>> TNF. I think they would find it useful to make The Ticket available at a 
>>> better price than DirectTV did, since they have so many other ways to 
>>> monetize it.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 9:20 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
 I guess there's a balance to be made, but all the networks are probably 
 thinking more of their streaming services in the mid- to long-term (and 
 probably short-term for Disney), so incurring losses for kudos and/or 
 audience will be interesting to see.
 
 I wouldn't bank on Amazon subsidising sport in any meaningful way. I think 
 the world over, sports leagues are hopeful that the streamers will make up 
 for any flattening of traditional broadcast revenues, but so far they've 
 not really bitten. In the UK, Amazon got the tiniest slither of EPL rights 
 - after again the first round of bidding didn't make the reserve. I know 
 the EPL was hopeful of them (or Netflix) making a splashy entrance to keep 
 prices high. But Amazon has notably bought cheaper rights around the 
 world. The same with Facebook who have picked up a few sports rights in a 
 few locations. 
 
 I can totally see the NFL directly marketing their Sunday Ticket offer via 
 Amazon, but whether Amazon would significantly subsidise that is another 
 question. With Amazon having north of 126m Prime subscribers in the US 
 already, do they really need to incur a big loss to reach the last 
 standout households that aren't already Prime? The counter to that is that 
 if you could only get it with a Prime stick, and not a Roku stick, then 
 Amazon shifts a lot of Roku (and Samsung/Google TV/whoever) households to 
 using their TV interface. Either way, there are said to be only 2m Sunday 
 Ticket subscribers, so not massive numbers. But perhaps that's a factor of 
 Sunday Ticket not being enough on its own to shift a household to a 
 different TV provider.
 
 I bet there's some fascinating number crunching going on at the big 
 networks...
 
 
 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:58 PM PGage  wrote:
 
> I used to subscribe to it back in my DirectTV days. The ability to switch 
> to any game is another way to avoid almost all commercials, plus their 
> Red Zone. 
> 
> It is a threat to network ratings though, if 10%-20% of viewers would 
> rather watch out of market games (which, depending on your market, your 
> own games may often suck). When I had the package, even if my local games 
> were of interest, I would flip back to games on the Ticket during 
> commercials, or if they became more compelling.
> 
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 8:18 AM Jim Ellwanger  
>> wrote:
>> Aside from two versions of the Red Zone channel (one "regular' and one 
>> focused on fantasy football), NFL Sunday Ticket just presents the 
>> regular Fox and CBS game broadcasts, complete with commercials -- and 
>> blacks out the games that are airing on the viewer's local affiliates. 
>> Presumably that would continue on an Amazon version of Sunday Ticket, 
>> using the viewer's IP address and other info to handle the blackouts. 
>> (DirecTV uses the ZIP code on the subscriber's account.) In theory, 
>> therefore, it's more of a supplement to the network broadcasts, rather 
>> than competition that would draw a lot of viewers away from them.
>> 
 On Feb 15, 2021, at 8:02 AM, PGage  wrote:
 
>> 
>>> This will be interesting. Given how long these deals are, the hike can 
>>> be seen as something like 10% a year for ten years, but that is still 
>>> outrageous given that ratings have been trending down. Still, even at a 
>>> loss the NFL is still probably worth it to the networks. The result 
>>> will be even more ads, in between and during the action. The morons at 
>>> the NFL will not rest until

Re: [TV orNotTV] Ewoks and other Star Wars stuff headed to Disney+

2021-03-17 Thread John Edwards

Yes, the Disney Vault was a wonderful and also frightening place to
imagine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWr5SLg8hSE

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 01:09, Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 12:14 AM Kevin M. 
> wrote:
>
>> The two Ewok movies, the segment of the Star Wars Holiday Special that
>> introduced Boba Fett and the first two seasons of Clone Wars shorts headed
>> to a small screen near you. No sign yet of the Ewoks/Droids Adventure Hour.
>>
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/star-wars-holiday-special-boba-fett-ewoks-caravan-of-courage-disney-plus-1234932286/
>>
>
> Disney had a genius marketing concept of the Disney Vault that made them a
> ton of money over the decades. They would make their classic movies
> available on home video during a window of six months or so and then
> announce they were returning the movie to the vault. The arbitrary scarcity
> drove up sales. The one real premium to Disney+ is that it makes the vault
> obsolete. With one notable exception Disney is putting all of its archive
> on the channel and I get a feeling of satisfaction when I see shows and
> movies that were buried away or only to be had in bootleg versions become
> available to any subscriber on demand.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "TV's number-one network" don't mean much when one doesn't watch linear

2021-03-15 Thread John Edwards

The Price is Right gets the CBS Original treatment. The jarring thing is
hearing the same tones after Jeopardy and Wheel, since they're owned by
some division of CBS now.

The private channels in Canada have been doing the "original" thing for a
while, as well.

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 22:33, Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> What I find interesting is the network's decision to mark all of their
> shows as "CBS Originals."  That's more of a cable/streaming sort of thing,
> but is being used by the pubcaster in the Great White North, as any of you
> watching "Schitt's Creek" know ("A CBC Original").  Even Colbert is being
> branded as "A CBS Original," which makes me wonder if "Young and Restless"
> and "The Price is Right" will also get that branding.
>
> Meanwhile, as I enjoy entering the world of flat screen, 40-inch HD smart
> TV with streaming services, I find it interesting how much this Hulu logo
> music sounds like the original 70s theme music for a morning show:
>
> https://youtu.be/5sJBfsZiWyU
> https://youtu.be/UlZP8ktov-0
>
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> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:55 PM David Lynch  wrote:
>
>> Also this one from the 90s, which the CBS Orchestra riffed on when Dave
>> made a joke at the expense of the network.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4iSZTvvzI
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 2:16 PM Jim Ellwanger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CBS had a musical stinger once upon a time:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYXWqW7ma3I
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 11:47 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...so new CBS marketing head Mike Benson, coming off a long tenure at
>>> ABC, seeks to emphasize the company behind the content, no matter what
>>> platform it's on... one way involves a 1950s-era musical signature (like
>>> "G-E-C" at a competitor)...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-marketing-mike-benson-streaming-video-netflix-1234797032/
>>>  (link)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] British Reaction to US Pharmaceutical Ads

2021-03-09 Thread John Edwards

Ah yes, dodgy streams. The way I watch 90% of the cricket I see and a
non-trivial amount of soccer, rugby league and AFL...

As for drug ads, the ones we get in Canada are much more soft sell. We
don't get the 15 seconds of benefits followed by 20 seconds of what dread
diseases you can also get.

Our ads tend to be of the "ask your doctor about NewDrug" variety, where
they don't mention what the drug actually does and only vaguely allude to
what problem it solves, or they will mention broadly that "there are
solutions" for whatever the ailment is and that you should ask your doctor
about it. One about toe fungus seemed to be on particularly high rotation
during CFL games, which helped lessen my in-game food consumption

John

On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 at 10:50, Adam Bowie  wrote:

> I know of at least two people who stayed up until 2am to watch it live on
> some kind of dodgy stream somewhere. And yes, there were a lot of comments
> on the volume of advertising the interview had. I don't know if it was more
> than the usual 19-20 mins per hour, but that is higher than we get in the
> UK where we were, until recently, regulated by the EU and still have limits
> on the number of breaks (two mid-breaks in a one hour show, one break in a
> half-hour), and the number of ads.
>
> But literally every person I talk to who's been to the US for vacation or
> business will mention the pharmaceutical ads. It's worth noting that this
> has been (at least until very recently - I believe Canada might now allow
> them) an almost uniquely American thing. In the UK and EU, you only see
> drug adverts for over the counter drugs. There's no "Ask your doctor"
> advertising. There's also much hilarity at the nature of the ads - 30
> seconds of benefits/ 30 seconds of hideous side effects. I believe that
> this type of advertising was only also legal in New Zealand. So yes - it's
> about as strange to us as seeing cigarette advertising on TV.
>
> Of course, European health services are very different. In the UK, most
> people are treated under the NHS and you basically don't get a choice about
> drug treatment. Not every drug is even available - there are committees
> that determine which drugs the NHS will make available. (So  yes, really
> expensive cancer drugs sometimes aren't available). And while some do have
> private healthcare, it probably doesn't really allow for the kind of
> drug-picking these ads are hypothesised on. Private healthcare is really to
> make sure you don't have to wait for surgeries etc. It's probably not going
> to cover you for an expensive cocktail of drugs otherwise unavailable on
> the NHS.
>
> The interview is airing in the UK tonight on ITV, although obviously it
> has already been fully gutted by all the news programmes this morning.
> Personally I'm getting more - small r- republican as the days go by. The
> Royal Family needs to radically modernise or ship out.
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 3:16 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> I am not in the target demo to watch an interview of Oprah interviewing
>> “Royals” (though the headline that they allege that someone at the palace
>> was worried their kids skin would be too dark sounds about right).
>>
>> I did find this Twitter thread interesting, in which Brits who were able
>> to watch the American broadcast of the interview are obsessed with how many
>> commercials Americans are exposed to for drugs. It is a reminder that
>> healthcare does not have to be a business. Would be nice to put more
>> restrictions again on direct-to-consumer advertising in the US.
>>
>> Also, I thought Oprah had a relationship with ABC, but it looks like this
>> interview was in CBS?
>>
>> https://twitter.com/ayeshaasiddiqi/status/1368901637604007939?s=21
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Kim's Convenience" ending at CBC

2021-03-09 Thread John Edwards

This was surprising news because the series had already been renewed for a
sixth season. The URL is a little misleading since the show wasn't
cancelled, it was the creators' decision to stop after this season, mainly
so they could go on to other projects. CBC would probably have happily had
the show on as long as they wanted to do it. (Funny Canadian sitcoms are a
rare breed.)

The tweets from Simu Liu, who plays Jung (the son) on the show, indicate
that the decision took the cast by surprise as well.
https://twitter.com/SimuLiu/status/1369017904352665602

I don't believe he's on the show this year (this season is part of my DVR
backlog), but was hoping to return for Season 6, with the idea that his
character would reconcile with Appa, the father. A movie or special where
that happens would be a good way to wrap the series up.

John

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> After five seasons, the last of which is owed to Netflix... we reported on
> it back in the day (
> https://groups.google.com/g/tvornottv/c/BaQaSCY2I2s/m/EZkjNtlxBgAJ)
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>
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/kims-convenience-ending-season-5-canceled-1234925006/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dog Bites Man: Golden Globes Corrupt

2021-02-21 Thread John Edwards

Pia Zadora is shocked, shocked by all this scandalous talk.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:03 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> You can’t clean it up without either a HazMat team or a SWAT team... or
> both.
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> A lawsuit by a a Norwegian journalist was thrown out of court last
>> November. Disappointed insiders have apparently been spilling to the LAT to
>> try to clean up the well known cesspool that is the HFP.
>>
>>
>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-02-21/hfpa-golden-globes-2021
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Heartland

2021-02-06 Thread John Edwards

It’s in a two-way race with When Calls The Heart for Worst Canadian Treacle. 

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> On Feb 6, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> 
> As a Canadian. . ... I must say there is tough competition for that worst 
> spot.
> 
> (I have not watched Heartland).
> 
> 
>> On Sat., Feb. 6, 2021, 2:15 p.m. Kevin M.,  wrote:
>> Canada’s worst import since... since... no... this might be it. Imagine if a 
>> Hallmark movie had explosive diarrhea which devolved into a TV series about 
>> Canadians with horses. Spoiler alert: The best acting on the show comes from 
>> the horses. -- 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Larry King, TV host who gave boldface names a cozy forum, dies at 87

2021-01-24 Thread John Edwards

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 6:29 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> Craig Ferguson tweeted this link to a video of Larry being the fill in for
> Geoff one night.   I had never seen it.If you liked Craig, it's worth
> to watch the whole 12 minutes to see how it all worked (or didn't)
>
> https://twitter.com/CraigyFerg/status/135303748530405?s=20
>

All that video did was remind me how much I miss Ferguson's show.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBCSN exit?

2021-01-22 Thread John Edwards

This may also be a sign of hockey returning to ESPN, if NBC gives up one of
the packages it currently has.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 2:49 PM Brad Beam  wrote:

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> <https://twitter.com/ourand_sbj?s=11>
> *John Ourand <https://twitter.com/ourand_sbj?s=11>*
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> NBC has told distributors and some sports leagues that it plans to shut
> down its NBCSN sports channel by the end of the year. Story coming in SBD
>
> 1/22/21, 14:30
> <https://twitter.com/ourand_sbj/status/1352700248800579588?s=11>
>   <https://twitter.com/ourand_sbj/status/1352700248800579588?s=11>
> ...which will most likely mean USA will re-adopt its shows-by-day,
> sports-by-night model, while the niche stuff will be uploaded to Peacock.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Social Media and the MAGA insurrection (Was “Twitter to POTUS”)

2021-01-14 Thread John Edwards

Wouldn’t a SnapChat ban expire after 24 hours...?

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> On Jan 14, 2021, at 12:10 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Snapchat had apparently already put Trump in time-out, but today they 
> announced they’ll ban him permanently on the 20th.
> 
> I’ll note (but not link to) his video from today on the official White House 
> Twitter, which is clearly done at the behest of his lawyers, so that any 
> future insurrections, he can point to the video to deny responsibility... ugh 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:52 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:51 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:38 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>> 
 YouTube just suspended Trump’s account for a week (or longer), and removed 
 one of his videos for being “incendiary.” My reaction: Only ONE incendiary 
 video?
 
 https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/12/tech/youtube-trump-suspension/index.html
 
 So that’s all the main social media outlets. I guess he could move over to 
 Parler since they found a right wing web host and will be starting back 
 up, but they have a fraction of the active users, so I doubt he would see 
 the point 
>>> 
>>> He still has a press room and can call into Fox and Friends whenever he 
>>> wants. For that matter he can do a prime time speech to the nation. He can 
>>> pretend he's being silenced but it's not like he has no access to media.
>> 
>> Agreed. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] An upcoming Jeopardy! guest host

2021-01-12 Thread John Edwards

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 10:44 PM JW  wrote:

> Aaron Rodgers.
>
> https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1349056749593120768
>
> This is sure to be a delight. I'm totally looking forward to Discount
Double Jeopardy.

The only thing more wooden than his performances in those dumb State Farm
ads is Sequoia National Park.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] IYC: "Corrie" actor visited by python

2021-01-12 Thread John Edwards

I read this subject line and thought we were going to find out what Eric
Idle has been up to lately

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> https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2021/01/11/Soap-opera-actor-finds-python-slithering-on-his-homes-toilet/7821610388436/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Twitter to POTUS: Clean out your timeline, pronto

2021-01-07 Thread John Edwards

As long as they let him go after his term is up, so he can start selling
poop tea, supplements, Cameos and whatever else washed-up reality stars
flog on Instagram.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 11:39 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Zuckerberg will keep Trump’s Facebook and Instagram accounts locked at
> least through inauguration day.
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/facebook-extends-trump-block-through-end-of-his-presidency
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 6:35 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
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>> Facebook has apparently done the same thing.
>>
>> It might be the only punishment Trump has ever or will ever receive.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:39 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>>> The datahoarder subreddit is busy archiving lots of videos and images
>>> today.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/krx449/megathread_archiving_the_capitol_hill_riots/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed., Jan. 6, 2021, 7:30 p.m. 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV, <
>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or face having his account axed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/01/06/twitter-locks-president-trumps-account-after-his-tweets-riots/6574242002/
>>>>  (link)
>>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ashleigh Banfield to WGN America

2021-01-05 Thread John Edwards

Well, she might look cute in suspenders and giant glasses. Also, if she wants 
to have eight husbands, who am I to stop her?

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> On Jan 5, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
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> 
> Why? Was this a thing anybody anywhere asked for?
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 6:54 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
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>> The newscasting vet's self-titled talk show, replacing the third hour of 
>> "News Nation" in March, will be made in the image of "Larry King Live"...
>> 
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/ashleigh-banfield-talk-show-wgn-america-launch-1234878326/
>>  (link)
>> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Tanya Roberts

2021-01-04 Thread John Edwards

It's a Festivus Miracle!

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 6:49 PM Marti Lawrence 
wrote:

> Yes., also seeing articles that death reports were not correct:
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tanya-roberts-that-70s-show-star-and-bond-girl-is-not-dead-rep-now-says?utm_medium=social_source=facebook=IwAR0gvJzFR5zrstt5p0tPaSZxaHiKp1cKBH7MqbyorJS4mpNskWmNTpgR7Zc
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>
>> Variety reporting that the reports of Roberts’ death were only mildly
>> exaggerated
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/tanya-roberts-not-dead-1234878434/
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 7:35 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> Bond girl and That ‘70s Show neighbor
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tanya-roberts-bond-girl-and-that-70s-show-star-dies-at-65
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SportsTV: Quietly, the first woman to coach in the NBA

2020-12-31 Thread John Edwards

I saw the clip of Pop getting ejected. I agree he was basically asking to
be ejected. I'm sure later he'll call it "load management".

On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 11:53 AM PGage  wrote:

> I of course was watching this as it happened last night. The Lakers were
> already clearly in charge of the game, and the Spurs did no better with
> Hammon, but still, pretty cool.
>
> Pop may be the best coach in the history of the NBA (certainly the best to
> never coach fir the Lakers), and he is a great man, but he does have a
> temper. Still, he did seem to over react to a mildly bad call, and one may
> be forgiven for wondering if he had purposely gotten kicked out to get it
> over with, perhaps in preparation for her coaching a few games from the
> start with a little less hoopla (Pop is in his 70s).
>
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>> "Pop" got ejected in the second quarter last night (12/30) as his Spura
>> battled the Lakers, and assistant Becky Hammon, longtime WNBA player, took
>> over...
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/sports/basketball/becky-hammon-first-woman-nba.html
>>  (link/$)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Monday Night Football and cable's slide

2020-12-29 Thread John Edwards

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 3:16 PM Sean Healy  wrote:

> On 2020-12-28 11:51 a.m., Doug Eastick wrote:
> >
> > CFL, I believe, is totally on TSN cable. Some other Canadian can
> > correct me if the Grey Cup goes to CTV.
>
> I can attest there's been no CFL over-the-air for years now.  The Grey
> Cup doesn't go to CTV.
>
> It could easily be argued they've lost a generation of cable cutters as
> a result, though I'm sure they find alternate ways if they really want
> to watch.
>

The CFL has been exclusively on cable since 2008 (CBC's contract ended in
2007). Cable's penetration has always been high in Canada, so they lost
some households with that, but I'm not sure how many.

As for the NFL games on CTV, I'm under the impression that they go there in
part so that CTV can take advantage of the simultaneous substitution rules
(whereby cable companies have to replace the American station's feed with
the Canadian one when they are airing the same program at the same time).
That phenomenon during the Super Bowl has been a particular bone of
contention in Canada.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Should I know any of these people?

2020-12-14 Thread John Edwards

I'm still sure the Streamy Awards are something my grandfather awarded
himself when his prostate started acting up

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:26 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> And the winners are. . .
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL schedule changes for Dec 20th

2020-12-14 Thread John Edwards

I can not endorse this opinion enough. It's a game-changer. I'll watch the
Seahawks game all the way through, but otherwise, it's all RedZone, all the
time.

John

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 4:51 PM PGage  wrote:

> Dude, get Red Zone - you will never go back.
>
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 6:12 AM daniel anderson <
> danielanderson4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Usually, I'll watch the Panthers game(i live in NC) and if it's a Fox
>> DH,  "America's Game of The Week."  This week, it's Broncos-Panthers and
>> Saints-Eagles.  Of course, with the Broncos stinking up the joint this
>> year, we get  Andrew Catalon and  James Lofton  rather than  Jim Nantz and
>> Tony Romo.
>>
>> Fox is dipping into their CFB pool and using Joe Davis on the
>> Falocns-Chargers game. It's only on in Atlanta, Los Angeles and San Diego.
>> Is that common for a 7th crew telecast?
>> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 11:04:09 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, Daniel, I don't determine what I'll watch in a given NFL week
>>> till the day before the first game (after consulting 506sports [q.v.])  B
>>>
>>> daniel anderson, to moi, Dec 10th:
>>>
>>>> i gather from that you'll be watching Chiefs/Saints..almost for sure it
>>>> will be   Nantz and Romo in the boothAs far as  Jets/Ramsmy guess
>>>> is  Joe Davis  and whoever they can get for color.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox considering dropping TNF

2020-12-09 Thread John Edwards

t;>>
>>>> Businesses exist to make a profit. If there is a problem with a
>>>> capitalist enterprise it is structural and the solution will be found in
>>>> regulatory change not hoping wealthy people have better judgment. If the
>>>> money is out there to be had they will be going after it.
>>>>
>>>> Thursday Night Football is the result of a failed business decision.
>>>> The NFL started its own media operation with the NFL Network (with its own
>>>> journalists which ties to another thread) and they intended to put the
>>>> channel on to cable systems at a premium price. The cable companies had no
>>>> enthusiasm to add them to basic service so the NFL decided to form an
>>>> exclusive weekly game for its network to strong-arm the cable companies. It
>>>> soon became clear that the tactic backfired and the game needed network
>>>> coverage so the NFL offered it up to the networks and made more money.
>>>>
>>>> And it turns out the networks can't make enough money from the Thursday
>>>> game to justify keeping it. The growth area in media is now in streaming
>>>> and media companies will drop overpriced content in order to free resources
>>>> up for streaming. Thursday Night Football doesn't exist because there was a
>>>> strong demand for it and no one will suffer if it disappears. The players
>>>> and coaches certainly hate the short week if they're scheduled to play.
>>>>
>>>> As for the projected rise in rights fees, that is more interesting. As
>>>> we have noted on this list the ratings for live sports are cratering.
>>>> Whether it's a direct result of the pandemic and displaced spring sports,
>>>> and the ratings will return to higher levels once the emergency is over, or
>>>> people were watching just from habit and once the habit is broken they
>>>> won't be back, we won't know for a while. I haven't checked football
>>>> ratings to see if they are stable or falling like the other sports. The
>>>> reason I think the league can project much higher rights fees is the
>>>> entrance of sports betting companies as advertisers. Since their business
>>>> is so high margin they have a lot of cash to spend and they will buy up air
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox considering dropping TNF

2020-12-09 Thread John Edwards

ll suffer if it disappears. The players
>> and coaches certainly hate the short week if they're scheduled to play.
>>
>> As for the projected rise in rights fees, that is more interesting. As we
>> have noted on this list the ratings for live sports are cratering. Whether
>> it's a direct result of the pandemic and displaced spring sports, and the
>> ratings will return to higher levels once the emergency is over, or people
>> were watching just from habit and once the habit is broken they won't be
>> back, we won't know for a while. I haven't checked football ratings to see
>> if they are stable or falling like the other sports. The reason I think the
>> league can project much higher rights fees is the entrance of sports
>> betting companies as advertisers. Since their business is so high margin
>> they have a lot of cash to spend and they will buy up air time if other
>> advertisers drop out.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SportsTV: First woman to start a major college football game

2020-12-04 Thread John Edwards

No. The head coach was fired shortly *after* the game. Vandy is horrible
this year, so the firing is not exactly a huge surprise. But the fact that
she was able to come out and say to the team what the coaches hadn't all
season is ... uhh... not good for the coaches.

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> Some on social sites ripped Fuller for giving a halftime talk to the
> team... the head coach had been fired prior to the game...
>
>
> https://deadspin.com/sarah-fuller-called-out-vanderbilt-in-a-halftime-speech-1845794743
>  (link)
>
> B
>
> Moi, Nov 29th:
>
>> Tom Wolper: The NYT article on her suggests it was a short-notice thing
>> getting her on the team, and their coach suggested the play itself was "by
>> design"...
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/28/sports/sarah-fuller-woman-kicker-vanderbilt.html
>>  (link)
>>
>> PGage: All of the FBS will only truly be "major" when all of the members
>> have a fair chance to qualify and compete for a championship... the Power 5
>> ain't lettin' that happen.
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Bristology: Dan Le Batard moves on

2020-12-04 Thread John Edwards

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:04 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> The 22-year veteran of the Bunch airs his final radio and "Highly
> Questionable" episodes Jan 4th... I'm guessing some of his crew have
> already been cut in the last few rounds... "Greeny" takes over his radio
> slot, opening the former one up for NY-affiliate midday hosts Bart Scott
> and Alan Hahn to be seen as well as heard...
>
>
> https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2020/12/espn-dan-le-batard-announce-host-will-leave-network-in-january/
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He had one producer, Chris Cote, get laid off in ESPN's last round of cuts.
Le Batard ended up rehiring him immediately as a "personal assistant." It's
one of a number of incidents over the past couple of years that show the
decline in the relationship between Le Batard and the network.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Barker-era TPiRs Return

2020-12-01 Thread John Edwards

I heard that Pluto is not really a channel, just a dwarf network.

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> But not on Buzzr or GSN. Rather, there's a 24-hour channel on Pluto that
> will be dedicated to them.
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> https://deadline.com/2020/11/the-price-is-right-bob-barker-fremantle-pluto-tv-channel-1234635433/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Who is filling in for Erin Burnett on CNN's OutFront?

2020-11-29 Thread John Edwards

Yes, but it being available to carry doesn't mean a cable system
necessarily does. Satellite providers have tended to offer everything,
cablecos have been more selectively, likely due to bandwidth issues.

John

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> Wiki: MSNBC's main feed has been available Up North since 2004...   B
>
> Doug Eastick, to Kevin M, John Edwards and Steve Timko, Nov 28th:
>
>> I'll admit that I've been listening to CNN and MSNBC on SiriusXM since
>> just before the 2016 election.  I can tell most of the voices of the
>> characters and guest panels on CNN.
>>
>> Funny thing My cable tv only had CNN, do I knew the faces that went
>> with the voices.   MSNBC? Wasn't on my cable plan.   About a year ago, I
>> got MSNBC on cable. My surprise? How many of the MSNBC faces were people of
>> color, and I had no idea.
>>
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