It sounds like there is enough material among us all to perhaps pull
it together in a single book. If anyone would like to work on pulling
something like that together...
BTW, Is the four-color theorem still one that has only been proven by
computer or is there now an elegant mathematical proof
On 5/10/07, Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
Let me respond to some of these... but first:
MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact
U2UG President Brian Leach with specific offers to help. We need code
examples, well reasoned tutorials, and more.
Virtual Machines
DW
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Sounds like a great Idea! I'm
: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
On 5/10/07, Dave Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chuck,
Stepping up on my soap box
I suspect I'll end up on mine before this post is done, so I might as
well say so up front too.
I have no reason to believe that IBM is eager to attract end-customers
(non
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I was assuming that IBM would do this.
Cheers,
David Murray
.learn and do
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Anthony Youngman wrote:
I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half
:-)
When I succeed I'll likely try
: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:36 AM
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We can have an archive of the PE version within the virtual machine.
When the virtual machine boots for the firstime the user will be guided
through the PE installation and force the user
of downloads) - no one high up enough at IBM is greasing the
rails to make it smoother.
DW
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Jerry
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We can have an archive of the PE version within the virtual machine.
When the virtual machine boots for the firstime the user will be guided
through the PE
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All,
Let me respond to some of these... but first:
MOST IMPORTANT! We
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All,
Let me respond to some of these... but first:
MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact
U2UG President Brian
Sorry I didn't mean that to go to the whole list.. should have looked before I
hit the reply.
Brian
| Tom
| Thanks! That's just the kind of thing we're looking for.
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Thanks!
The u2ug address is 'in progress' - Chuck's doing a test run with u2ug.net to
get to the new site. Once we know that's all working, we'll repeat the process
with u2ug.org.
Yes, my own web site is always bottom of the list sigh and really needs
reorganizing and some new content.
Barouch
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All,
Let me respond to some of these... but first:
MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact
U2UG President Brian Leach with specific offers
Stamina Software
Visage Better by Design!
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It strikes me that one
Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative.
I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into
install problems.
Beefing up PE would be the best advertizing that IBM could hope for...
--Bill
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Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for
instance?
Bruce M Neylon
Health Care Management Group
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: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative.
I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into
install problems
Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product.
Much easier to make a business case expanding the IBM product line than
any third party products.
My 2 bits
Karl
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Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for
instance?
Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in
print?
Anyone want to write one? ;-)
Is the MV market expanding, shrinking, or staying stagnant? Does IBM plan
to really start promoting U2 or is it just something they acquired to get a
few large customers? Anybody?
Gabe
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Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product.
Much easier to make a business case expanding the IBM product line than
any third
At 08:39 PM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which
pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to
sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website
(allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to
Last I looked, Dynamic Connect was bundled with the PE editions. It was
included in the clients zip file, rather than the pe zip file.
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Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product.
snip
Karl
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Is there a
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Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative.
I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into
install problems.
Beefing up PE would be the best advertizing that IBM
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Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for
instance?
Bruce M Neylon
Health Care Management Group
Would be nice to get UV on FreeBSD
Can't resist the plug OpenQM runs on FreeBSD.
Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems Ltd
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It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or
some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free
player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This
would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc.
could
11:56 AM
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Good luck with that. All I have to say about Gentoo is be careful with
compiler flags going a little too crazy and ports (or whatever they call
them, I forget) getting out of sync.
Would be nice to get UV
Chuck,
Stepping up on my soap box
As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to
make a good first impression.
I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged that
they got over 2000 downloads of their eval. product per month.
When I asked him, how
From: David Murray
What would be nice is SBClient to be
bundled, so the capabilities of SB+
can be demonstrated.
Not likely going to happen, but DC works fine with SB+ in character
mode. Well, fine following a small patch to SB+.
-Kevin
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http://www.PrecisOnline.com
** Check
Might I also suggest that all the extras, like the recommended list of
VARs (very good idea), etc. be placed on u2ug.org's website so they are
located in one location, and can be updated once? There's nothing less
maintainable than a software release with all the packages included, but
which is
Very well said, Dave. And thanks for your generous offers.
The incubator is a great idea and hopefully IBM will be as lenient
with the PE licensing and expiration terms as they are with their free
DB2 Express-C database.
The installer is going to be an amazing piece of code, considering all
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It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or
some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free
player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This
would
: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM
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Chuck,
Stepping up on my soap box
As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to
make a good first impression.
I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged
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Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in
print?
Anyone want to write one? ;-)
Is the MV market
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Well, for distribution - this would need to be Linux - as I doubt
Microsoft will grant re-dist rights on Win32.
IBM seems to support Linux...
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What about a fully installed, configured and ready to run VMWare image
of U2
on linux?
VWmare now have a free runtime/player and there are already
Anthony Youngman wrote:
I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half :-)
When I succeed I'll likely try and create an ebuild to install UVPE. Be
nice to get that officially into portage :-)
(I want to get a WordPerfect 8 ebuild working, too :-)
Cheers,
Wol
I
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Sounds like a great Idea! I'm willing to put together a
tuned cookie
All,
Let me respond to some of these... but first:
MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact
U2UG President Brian Leach with specific offers to help. We need code
examples, well reasoned tutorials, and more. These packs are a big part
of making the incubator
Thanks. I've seen broken links so many times using install routines that I
could be rich, if finder's fees were applicable. Well, not rich.
Karl
quote who=Charles Barouch
All,
Let me respond to some of these... but first:
MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please
DW
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Sounds like a great Idea! I'm willing to put
Why can't the unpacking of the VM have the IBM license agreement in it?
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Yep, I live on that same clock.
Richard
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Dave,
Very well said. But one thing I might add, and I've been bitten
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