When we advise clients on GUI, we always advise a divide and conquer
approach.
It is amazing just how small a percentage of a system actually needs to be
GUItized, once you have partitioned out the business rules, report and
(strange) user menus, admin facilities etc.
Use a regular report
Well, let's see... the new car automatically unlocks all the doors when I
get in (my wife thinks the carjackers'll love that one), I have to stand on the
brake pedal to get it to start, the window decides for itself to go all the
way down when I just want it down a crack, and the turning
And it was YOU that bought it!
m coffee... need more..
Les :-)
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Sent: 19 April 2004 11:12
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Well, let's see
Which is precisely why I ALWAYS do a project with both ends of the sprectrum being in
on the decision process (Management IT). What good is a system that you bring in
house only to have it a technical OR Business Solution misfit?
BTW...although sometime the shoe fits...but why is management
Embedded responses to (hopefully) add contextual reference
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Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2004 3:20 PM
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Subject: Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports
Goo'day,
At 10:17
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Then some of the validation (two field
interactions) should be relegated
In a message dated 4/18/2004 10:18:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For example, aligning this back to the original post, rather than attempting to use
CR for reporting, I'd simply create a Viságe.BIT cube to give the users free-form
enquiry and data exploration
:
Not to be out of touch, but what is a Sales Cube. I saw Swordfish and I hope
that itn't it.
Thanks.
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In a message
[I went on and on and then said]
As an aside, pardon me for being so bold, but it's amazing that the
providers of these GUI products aren't jumping to pay people
like me to
help developers become viable candidates for their products. There's
no guarantee that any given site will adopt any
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 2:49 PM
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Not to be out of touch, but what is a Sales Cube. I saw Swordfish and I hope
that itn't it.
Thanks.
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In a message dated 4/18/2004 11:23:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That would certainly be the case, especially when
In a message dated 4/18/2004 6:08:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Sorry, I'm not going to publish the code here :-) suffice to say that
BECAUSE we have had the luxury of time to develop Viságe, we have overcome MANY
problems that face this type of technology
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So YOU, as a developer, would construct a cube with the 6 key fields that the user
is interested in. You also get to do things like define an opening view of the
information - AND also the query that is
the programmer who insists that
green screen is where a system should stay...
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Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 7:15 PM
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports
Tough
Yeah. Then I'd be accused of shooting the baby with a wet silver bullet.
Seriously folks, this is a good discussion, but it getting a bit off
topic at times. I would suggest doing what Ross did a few posts ago.
Rather than go into a long discussion about is a star schema a cube or
a
In a message dated 4/17/2004 9:10:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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The tools are there to produce applications on par with anything on the
market. Web interfaces via tools like Redback. UOJ, .Net PDP, or the java
interfaces are all there to produce great solutions for
In a message dated 4/17/2004 4:16:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A key factor that makes CUI non-portable
to GUI is the embedded Input and Print statements in the code.
I respectfully disagree that this is key.
After all event oriented apps also have input statements
R.
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In a message dated 4/17/2004 4:16:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Will wrote:
A key factor that makes CUI non-portable
to GUI is the embedded Input and Print statements in the code.
I respectfully disagree that this is key.
After all event oriented apps also have input statements
I think you mean the key factor is that the programs are not
event oriented.
In a message dated 4/17/2004 10:21:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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AFIK, Visage offers users a GUI in a TOTAL WINDOWS LOOK AND
FEEL/BROWSER environment, without having to do a total rewrite, but a
rewrite none the less, re-using some portions, perhaps, of existing
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