Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Steve Barnes
I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud based management tool. However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app and not having a web UI for our phones and other devices. When Ben Moore said that we would not have to worry about that in the

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
mFi was optionally cloud based... until they pulled the plug on the cloud option after being in service a few months. Why anyone would consider a Ubiquiti cloud option again is beyond me. Who's to say it will still be around in six months to a year time? It's like someone buying Trango's new

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-02 Thread Adam Greene
We’ve had good results with Exalt ExtendAir G2, too: 11GHz, 18GHz, 23GHz. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adair Winter Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:35 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance We use

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Kees H
But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend. Steve, you know the saying The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing. And Follow the money trail We know UBNT is not in the business to give things away. Hence if they can't make money of this

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
It'll probably be free like their other software, it's to sell their hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2014 9:35 AM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend. Steve,

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
There's just no way it will have all those features. Not in 5 years. Not in 10. They can't get the basic stuff done... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2014 9:41 AM, Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com wrote: Or it will be

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/2/14, 5:34 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app and not having a web UI for our phones and other devices. When Ben Moore said that we would not have to worry about that in the next version I kind of thought about a hosted

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Justin Wilson
Thank you UBNT for treating your customers like they are just a bunch of hobbyists. There are many of us trying to run a business and having the proper tools to do that is essential. For several years we have been told that Air Control is being active developed, we have programmers working on

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
or take UniFi's config change\firmware update mechanisms and apply that to the fixed line? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Hah, well, true, but it'd be a first step... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:28:51 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
ROFL!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Why not? I have to stop my car to shift gears Oh wait.. no that's my John Deere tractor. On 12/2/14,

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Alerding
Just to clarify, Azotel SIMPLer's WIB unit does not have to sit inline on your network, although it can, it is not required to in every network. Azotel SIMPLer will integrate with a RADIUS system just fine, and then use the NAS's on your network to do the work according to the attributes from

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/2/14, 8:52, Daniel Peoples wrote: Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support this, the 450 does. Are you referring to CNS Server? ~Seth ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
You've completely lost me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:57:46 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users]

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Daniel Peoples
I was meaning if they did the same thing and got into the billing/management combination utility. *Daniel Peoples* Resonance Broadband *Resonancebroadband.com* http://Resonancebroadband.com 918-429-3620 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 12/2/14, 8:52,

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread RickG
How do you manage radios (upgrades, etc) with Cambium? On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely plausible to move over. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Daniel Peoples
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/management-tools/cns-server *Daniel Peoples* Resonance Broadband *Resonancebroadband.com* http://Resonancebroadband.com 918-429-3620 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: How do you manage radios (upgrades, etc) with

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread RickG
Looks great! Does it work? What is the cost? On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/management-tools/cns-server *Daniel Peoples* Resonance Broadband *Resonancebroadband.com* http://Resonancebroadband.com 918-429-3620

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Free. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl Looks

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread RickG
Sounds like time to test on a tower! On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Free. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Kees H
Don't get me wrong. I would love it if the product works as advertised. But as with the unifi software. Allow me to load it on my server. That is all I ask for. - Original Message - From: Daniel Peoples To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:13 AM

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* I'll gladly take airCRM and load it on my existing on-net server and just not use the billing aspect. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
As long as they aren't dependent on each other (which I believe they already said), they don't have to remove billing. Keep it there for all I care, just let me install it locally. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Rory Conaway
I think I’d be happy if AirControl just supported all the hardware they sell and if the AirGateway firmware gets out of Beta before the Cubs win the World Series. Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mathew Howard
And that's the problem here... If they want to make a hosted thing with integrated billing that nobody seems to want, that's fine with me, but it isn't a replacement for airControl. Just make something that the basic functions work on (with all devices) that's somewhat reliable and I think

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Mathew Howard
You would definitely want it to be extendible for other types of equipment, and if you design it with that in mind, it really shouldn't be a problem... you want it to make sure it can be made to work with stuff that'll come out in the future anyway, even if you aren't interested in other

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Sam
How do you get to the AirView on the AC-Lite radios? If it's in there, I couldn't find it (using 7.0.3u). Thanks, Sam On 12/1/2014 20:33, Josh Reynolds wrote: Excellent write-up. I feel UBNT has kind of lost their way in certain areas. I don't understand mFi at all. UBNT-Vision (aircam

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Jenco Wireless
Thank you, engineers at Cambium, for taking a crap chip-set, and making it work. Thank you for actually delivering on your promises. That is all I have to say. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not really. All it does currently: 1. Given an IP it will

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Jab has an old version of Powercode Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2014 11:25 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: What do companies like Jab and Wisper use? Josh Reynolds wrote: As long as it's something

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
they use powercode for upgrading devices, mass config changes, etc? If so that's cool, we've got a 25k procera box that arrived in our office yesterday and we're about to start our powercode migration next week! :) That said,we have a very functional IPOQUE DPI traffic shaper for sale if

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
just catching up on this threadreminds self tho that we (the US) are not their primary market. then again, we are a pretty large market... - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users]

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
you really think the FCC needed this in order to mine ? Bwhwhaha.a.a.a. what extension is the NSA from the FCC? lol - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl I

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
haven't i seen a presentation again and again how this trend reverses every what, 10 years? so, maybe, soon, it'll all start moving back to the desktop/server less cloud again? some things belong in the cloud. most things do not. (my take on things) - Original Message - From: