they use powercode for upgrading devices, mass config changes, etc?

If so that's cool, we've got a 25k procera box that arrived in our office yesterday and we're about to start our powercode migration next week! :)

That said,we have a very functional IPOQUE DPI traffic shaper for sale if anybody wants one. prx5g

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/02/2014 07:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Jab has an old version of Powercode

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On Dec 2, 2014 11:25 PM, "Jay Weekley" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    What do companies like Jab and Wisper use?


    Josh Reynolds wrote:
    > As long as it's something simple with a rudimentary API to build off
    > of, I see no reason why multiple polling/control types couldn't be
    > designed.
    >
    > Select a subnet, select types of polling to perform (ubnt discovery,
    > whatever cambium uses, etc), select admin/password for groups of
    > devices, and add them to the database. Once in the database
    their is a
    > /int pollingFrequency = x; /and /str pollType = y;/ and /str
    > pollTemplate = z;/, where pollType could be "snmp, ssh, agent" and
    > pollTemplate could be "ubnt,cambium-ePmP,mikrotik", etc.
    > josh reynolds :: chief information officer
    > spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
    > On 12/02/2014 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    >> My thought is that as we grow, we'll have different types of
    >> equipment out there...  UBNT, MT, Cambium, Mimosa, Netonix, SAF,
    >> Exalt, servers, etc. In my 36 hours of experience, it seems
    like that
    >> would be the platform to build off of.  *shrugs*
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> -----
    >> Mike Hammett
    >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
    >>
    
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >> *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:08:12 PM
    >> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >> Via Adam?
    >>
    >> Not likely.
    >>
    >> I'm doing some work on making sure the new UBNT MIBs are clean and
    >> standards based. That may not be a required part of the puzzle
    >> though-- snmp is pretty slow. Aircontrol works by authenticating
    >> initially as admin, exchanging ssh keys, and then using the device
    >> itself to poll stats and send them upstream (I believe, it's been
    >> awhile since I've looked into this).
    >>
    >> I know the proper commands to pull the stats we need for
    graphing and
    >> everything, and we know the ssh commands for upgrading and things
    >> like that.
    >>
    >> Diagnosing the config isn't hard, although the order of the
    config is
    >> often jumbled from device to device and version to version--
    but it's
    >> mostly the same.
    >>
    >> Just need somebody who can create a basic webpage with auth,
    load up
    >> x devices per page, a basic search function, and some sorts for
    >> organizing CPEs per AP MAC.
    >>
    >> Scheduling would be nice eventually.
    >>
    >> This can't be that hard. I used to do stuff far more
    complicated than
    >> this, but I haven't done any webdesign/css/php since like '99.
    >> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
    >> spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
    >> On 12/02/2014 09:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    >>
    >>     Think we could get enough stuff into Observium? It already
    pulls
    >>     OS\package versions. So it knows what's running on it. It
    >>     supports external apps. Maybe we could get a firmware push
    system
    >>     into it.
    >>
    >>     It has Rancid to pull configurations. Rancid can also push
    >>     commands out to all of the devices. Setup a UBNT config file
    >>     format for the pulling and setup  a method to push
    configurations
    >>     back out?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>     -----
    >>     Mike Hammett
    >>     Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>     *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>     *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>     *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:45:53 PM
    >>     *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>     looks like we're going to have to come up with a third
    party solution
    >>
    >>     this sucks
    >>
    >>     josh reynolds :: chief information officer
    >>     spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
    >>
    >>     On 12/02/2014 09:41 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
    >>
    >>         And that's the problem here... If they want to make a
    hosted
    >>         thing with integrated billing that nobody seems to want,
    >>         that's fine with me, but it isn't a replacement for
    airControl.
    >>
    >>         Just make something that the basic functions work on (with
    >>         all devices) that's somewhat reliable and I think most
    of us
    >>         would be perfectly happy... I don't even care about stuff
    >>         like maps, it just needs to be able to do firmware
    upgrades,
    >>         make configuration changes and monitor devices. It doesn't
    >>         have to be all that complicated.
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>         *From:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>         [[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Mike Hammett
    >>         [[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>]
    >>         *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:21 PM
    >>         *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >>         *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>         With airCRM, airControl is dead.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>         -----
    >>         Mike Hammett
    >>         Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>         *From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>         *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>         *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:20:35 PM
    >>         *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>         I think I’d be happy if AirControl just supported all the
    >>         hardware they sell and if the AirGateway firmware gets
    out of
    >>         Beta before the Cubs win the World Series.
    >>
    >>         Rory
    >>
    >>         *From:*[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>         [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
    >>         Howard
    >>         *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:08 AM
    >>         *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >>         *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>         true... I don't care if it's there either, but if they for
    >>         some reason think the billing stuff needs to be kept on
    their
    >>         servers where it's safe from our meddling, I'd be perfectly
    >>         happy if they just cut it all out and let us have the
    useful
    >>         part.
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>         *From:*[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>         [[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Mike Hammett
    >>         [[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>]
    >>         *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:06 PM
    >>         *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >>         *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>         As long as they aren't dependent on each other (which I
    >>         believe they already said), they don't have to remove
    >>         billing. Keep it there for all I care, just let me
    install it
    >>         locally.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>         -----
    >>         Mike Hammett
    >>         Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>         *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>         *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>         *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:03:37 PM
    >>         *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>         It doesn't seem like it should be all that complicated to
    >>         just remove the billing parts and let us have the rest
    to run
    >>         on our own servers...
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>         *From:*[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>         [[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Mike Hammett
    >>         [[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>]
    >>         *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:43 AM
    >>         *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
    >>         *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>         *nods* I'll gladly take airCRM and load it on my existing
    >>         on-net server and just not use the billing aspect.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>         -----
    >>         Mike Hammett
    >>         Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>         *From: *"Kees H" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>         *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>         *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:41:26 AM
    >>         *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>         
    >>
    >>         Don't get me wrong. I would love it if the product works as
    >>         advertised. But as with the unifi software. Allow me to
    load
    >>         it on my server.  That is all I ask for.
    >>
    >>             ----- Original Message -----
    >>
    >>             *From:*Daniel Peoples <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>
    >>             *To:*Ubiquiti Users Group
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >>
    >>             *Sent:*Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:13 AM
    >>
    >>             *Subject:*Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>             Sorry, my brain works in mysterious ways(at least
    that's
    >>             what my wife tells me).
    >>
    >>             What I'm trying to say is let them take a stab at this,
    >>             and objectively judge the final product. They might
    >>             accidentally get it right. At worst, when it comes
    out of
    >>             beta and doesn't work, don't use it and if enough folks
    >>             do the same, they won't mess with it, it will be
    >>             depreciated and the team that makes it will be
    re-assigned.
    >>             Also, from the security standpoint I'm just saying that
    >>             it won't be any more insecure than any other solution,
    >>             just because it is a "cloud" based offering.
    >>
    >>             Someone also made a comment that I interrupted as
    >>             "cambium could do it better", to which I was just
    saying
    >>             YES THEY CAN, because they have the additional
    financial
    >>             assistance of a upscale ap/cpe combination to
    support it.
    >>
    >>
    >>             /Daniel Peoples/
    >>             Resonance Broadband
    >>
    >>             /Resonancebroadband.com/
    <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
    >> 918-429-3620 <tel:918-429-3620>
    >>
    >>             On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Mike Hammett
    >>             <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >>
    >>             You've completely lost me.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>             -----
    >>             Mike Hammett
    >>             Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
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    >>
    >>             *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
    >>             *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>>
    >>             *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:57:46 AM
    >>
    >>
    >>             *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>             The revenue of the epmp line doesn't support much.
    >>
    >>             And actually, how much DOES cambium make off those
    things?
    >>
    >>
    >>             /Daniel Peoples/
    >>             Resonance Broadband
    >>
    >>             /Resonancebroadband.com/
    <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
    >> 918-429-3620 <tel:918-429-3620>
    >>
    >>             On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett
    >>             <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >>
    >>             ePMP doesn't support what?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>             -----
    >>             Mike Hammett
    >>             Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>             *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
    >>             *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>>
    >>             *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:52:00 AM
    >>
    >>
    >>             *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>             Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support
    this,
    >>             the 450 does.
    >>
    >>
    >>             /Daniel Peoples/
    >>             Resonance Broadband
    >>
    >>             /Resonancebroadband.com/
    <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
    >> 918-429-3620 <tel:918-429-3620>
    >>
    >>             On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Mike Hammett
    >>             <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >>
    >>             Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely
    >>             plausible to move over.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>             -----
    >>             Mike Hammett
    >>             Intelligent Computing Solutions
    >> http://www.ics-il.com
    >>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
    >>
    >>
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    >>
    >>             *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
    >>             *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>>
    >>             *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM
    >>             *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
    >>
    >>             Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it
    could
    >>             be gold or a great big poo stain.
    >>
    >>             If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it
    will have
    >>             that initial spert of awesome that will taper to
    nothing
    >>             in a year or two. It will eventually be stuck by the
    >>             wayside, as there just isn't enough margin in a $100
    >>             radio to support a tool like this.
    >>             Can Cambium or anyone else like them do this better?
    >>             Sure, but they have ap's that cost 10 times as
    much, and
    >>             SM's that cost 4 to 5 times as much so they can support
    >>             these tools.
    >>
    >>             If it is a paid(MRC) billing platform, it will more
    than
    >>             likely mature into something that is MUCH better
    than ac
    >>             1 or 2 , and something that actually on the billing
    side
    >>             approaches a real billing software and CPE management
    >>             system.
    >>
    >>             All of this said, I run AC1 for management and swiftfox
    >>             for billing, the two programs both do exactly what
    I want
    >>             from them, and that is ALL I want them to do. If ubnt
    >>             makes a product that does both functions and is around
    >>             the same price or even higher per cpe, then hoo rah,
    >>             saves me complexity in billing and management.
    >>
    >>             As for the "cloud" side of this, yes it will always
    have
    >>             more vulnerabilities than my ac1 server that
    doesn't even
    >>             know where the internet is, but you have to put your
    >>             billing system on the internet so that it can process a
    >>             CC, and don't forget that your azotel or your powercode
    >>             bmu sets IN the data stream. DDOS the box and your
    entire
    >>             internet connection dies, because they have you to
    route
    >>             the information through the hardware.
    >>
    >>             BUT at the same time, my new installer doesn't even
    know
    >>             that ac1 exists passed me showing him stat graphs,
    and he
    >>             couldn't possibly hope to learn how you tie all of that
    >>             stuff together to make the solid picture that I do
    when I
    >>             look at all of the stuff together.
    >>
    >>             I honestly don't see what all the nay saying is
    about. If
    >>             they do it right, it will be a properly good tool, if
    >>             they don't do it right, the adoption numbers will tell
    >>             them that they did wrong.
    >>
    >>
    >>             /Daniel Peoples/
    >>             Resonance Broadband
    >>
    >>             /Resonancebroadband.com/
    <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
    >> 918-429-3620 <tel:918-429-3620>
    >>
    >>             On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Justin Wilson
    >>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >>
    >>             Thank you UBNT for treating your customers like
    they are
    >>             just a bunch of
    >>             hobbyists. There are many of us trying to run a
    business
    >>             and having the
    >>             proper tools to do that is essential. For several years
    >>             we have been
    >>             told that Air Control is being active developed, we
    have
    >>             programmers
    >>             working on it, etc.
    >>
    >>             I have ran a small WISP (1800+ UBNT devices) and if it
    >>             wasn¹t for the few
    >>             piece of AC that worked it would have been a nightmare
    >>             upgrading firmware,
    >>             and checking on the worst performing clients. Sure, we
    >>             could have spent
    >>             countless hours on writing scripts, integrating
    with 3rd
    >>             party tools, but
    >>             I shouldn¹t have to.  If you give me a tool, make
    it work
    >>             at one point.  I
    >>             can get that Beta software is, just that, Beta
    Software.
    >>             Has anyone at
    >>             UBNT actually tried to manage 2000 devices? Upgrading
    >>             firmware, making
    >>             changes, monitoring, etc.
    >>
    >>             It¹s insulting that we spend good money. At one
    point, we
    >>             were spending
    >>             20-30k a month buying UBNT products.  I realize margins
    >>             are thin,
    >>             marketing, overhead, blah blah blah. But, if my folks
    >>             spent less time
    >>             monkeying with firmware upgrades and the like they
    could
    >>             put on more
    >>             customers. More customers means more revenue for UBNT.
    >>             Not to mention
    >>             the fact that I am sure there are operators out
    there who
    >>             would PAY for a
    >>             working AC. Why? Because it saves them labor! Saving
    >>             labor means saving
    >>             money!  That¹s a benefit. There are reasons
    products like
    >>             Observium and
    >>             Nagios which have paid and free Versions.  I would pay
    >>             money if it meant I
    >>             had less hassle.
    >>
    >>             Cloud based for a network monitoring solution? Really?
    >>             This is such a bad
    >>             idea. How many years will this product be in Alpha or
    >>             Beta?  I installed
    >>             the CMS from Cambium and guess what? It worked? Because
    >>             it worked my
    >>             client is now sold on Cambium.  They see that its an
    >>             integrated solution.
    >>             Market toward the bean counters AND the geeks. Not just
    >>             throw it out there.
    >>
    >>             I know that¹s more than my .02 but dang. You missed the
    >>             boat UBNT.
    >>
    >>             Justin
    >>
    >>
    >>             --
    >>             Justin Wilson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
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