Thank you, engineers at Cambium, for taking a crap chip-set, and making it work. Thank you for actually delivering on your promises. That is all I have to say.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Sam Tetherow <[email protected]> wrote: > Not really. All it does currently: > 1. Given an IP it will pull and parse the discovery information (UDP 10001) > 2. Given an IP and community string it will pull the SSID from an AP > 3. Given an IP and community string it will pull the stations list and > associated information on an AP. > 4. Given a username and password it will scp the config file. > > Basically only the things I needed. > > I have spent time looking at the config file to pull out various settings > (bridge vs router), DHCP vs static, whether DMZ is enable, checking device > name, etc. But I haven't spent much time thinking about actually pushing > changes via the config file. I have mostly used the stuff I have written > looking for exceptions to our normal configurations and then flagging them > to be checked manual to see if it was a misconfigured radio vs a special > case situation. > > From what little I have looked at the config format is pretty loose but > not sure how loose. I know various options may or may not be there > depending on the configuration history of the radio and I know the order of > lines in the file can change, but I don't know if there is a strict order > to parts of the config (either sections or parts of the section), or what > the 'minimal' config has to consist of. > > > On 12/02/2014 05:20 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > That would be useful. Is it like https://github.com/jof/ubbnut ? > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/02/2014 11:15 AM, Sam Tetherow wrote: > > I've got a breakdown and php code for the UBNT discovery protocol for > anyone who is interested and I've parse chunks for the config files to > check various settings. > > On 12/02/2014 01:56 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > hangout created :) > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/02/2014 10:51 AM, Chris Ruschmann wrote: > > There are a couple ways to build a database to facilitate this. I built > a custom monitoring system for our IT billing system several years ago that > we can go off. > > > > Shall we setup a Hangouts to go over things? I think this could be a > killer tool. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:26 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > > > As long as it's something simple with a rudimentary API to build off of, I > see no reason why multiple polling/control types couldn't be designed. > > Select a subnet, select types of polling to perform (ubnt discovery, > whatever cambium uses, etc), select admin/password for groups of devices, > and add them to the database. Once in the database their is a *int pollin* > *gFrequency** = x**; *and *str poll**T**ype = **y;* and *str pollTemplate > = z;*, where pollType could be "snmp, ssh, agent" and pollTemplate could > be "ubnt,cambium-ePmP,mikrotik", etc. > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/02/2014 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > My thought is that as we grow, we'll have different types of equipment > out there... UBNT, MT, Cambium, Mimosa, Netonix, SAF, Exalt, servers, etc. > In my 36 hours of experience, it seems like that would be the platform to > build off of. *shrugs* > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:08:12 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > Via Adam? > > Not likely. > > I'm doing some work on making sure the new UBNT MIBs are clean and > standards based. That may not be a required part of the puzzle though -- > snmp is pretty slow. Aircontrol works by authenticating initially as > admin, exchanging ssh keys, and then using the device itself to poll stats > and send them upstream (I believe, it's been awhile since I've looked into > this). > > I know the proper commands to pull the stats we need for graphing and > everything, and we know the ssh commands for upgrading and things like that. > > Diagnosing the config isn't hard, although the order of the config is > often jumbled from device to device and version to version -- but it's > mostly the same. > > Just need somebody who can create a basic webpage with auth, load up x > devices per page, a basic search function, and some sorts for organizing > CPEs per AP MAC. > > Scheduling would be nice eventually. > > This can't be that hard. I used to do stuff far more complicated than > this, but I haven't done any webdesign/css/php since like '99. > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/02/2014 09:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Think we could get enough stuff into Observium? It already pulls > OS\package versions. So it knows what's running on it. It supports external > apps. Maybe we could get a firmware push system into it. > > It has Rancid to pull configurations. Rancid can also push commands out to > all of the devices. Setup a UBNT config file format for the pulling and > setup a method to push configurations back out? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:45:53 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > looks like we're going to have to come up with a third party solution > > this sucks > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/02/2014 09:41 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > And that's the problem here... If they want to make a hosted thing with > integrated billing that nobody seems to want, that's fine with me, but it > isn't a replacement for airControl. > > Just make something that the basic functions work on (with all devices) > that's somewhat reliable and I think most of us would be perfectly happy... > I don't even care about stuff like maps, it just needs to be able to do > firmware upgrades, make configuration changes and monitor devices. It > doesn't have to be all that complicated. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] on > behalf of Mike Hammett [[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:21 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > With airCRM, airControl is dead. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:20:35 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > I think I’d be happy if AirControl just supported all the hardware they > sell and if the AirGateway firmware gets out of Beta before the Cubs win > the World Series. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:08 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > > > true... I don't care if it's there either, but if they for some reason > think the billing stuff needs to be kept on their servers where it's safe > from our meddling, I'd be perfectly happy if they just cut it all out and > let us have the useful part. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] on > behalf of Mike Hammett [[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:06 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > As long as they aren't dependent on each other (which I believe they > already said), they don't have to remove billing. Keep it there for all I > care, just let me install it locally. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:03:37 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > It doesn't seem like it should be all that complicated to just remove the > billing parts and let us have the rest to run on our own servers... > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] on > behalf of Mike Hammett [[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:43 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > *nods* I'll gladly take airCRM and load it on my existing on-net server > and just not use the billing aspect. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Kees H" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:41:26 AM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > > > Don't get me wrong. I would love it if the product works as advertised. > But as with the unifi software. Allow me to load it on my server. That is > all I ask for. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Daniel Peoples <[email protected]> > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:13 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > > > Sorry, my brain works in mysterious ways(at least that's what my wife > tells me). > > What I'm trying to say is let them take a stab at this, and objectively > judge the final product. They might accidentally get it right. At worst, > when it comes out of beta and doesn't work, don't use it and if enough > folks do the same, they won't mess with it, it will be depreciated and the > team that makes it will be re-assigned. > Also, from the security standpoint I'm just saying that it won't be any > more insecure than any other solution, just because it is a "cloud" based > offering. > > Someone also made a comment that I interrupted as "cambium could do it > better", to which I was just saying YES THEY CAN, because they have the > additional financial assistance of a upscale ap/cpe combination to support > it. > > > *Daniel Peoples* > Resonance Broadband > > *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> > 918-429-3620 > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You've completely lost me. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:57:46 AM > > > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > The revenue of the epmp line doesn't support much. > > And actually, how much DOES cambium make off those things? > > > *Daniel Peoples* > Resonance Broadband > > *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> > 918-429-3620 > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ePMP doesn't support what? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:52:00 AM > > > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support this, the 450 does. > > > *Daniel Peoples* > Resonance Broadband > > *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> > 918-429-3620 > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely plausible to move over. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl > > Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a > great big poo stain. > > If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial > spert of awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will > eventually be stuck by the wayside, as there just isn't enough margin in a > $100 radio to support a tool like this. > Can Cambium or anyone else like them do this better? Sure, but they have > ap's that cost 10 times as much, and SM's that cost 4 to 5 times as much so > they can support these tools. > > If it is a paid(MRC) billing platform, it will more than likely mature > into something that is MUCH better than ac 1 or 2 , and something that > actually on the billing side approaches a real billing software and CPE > management system. > > ... > > [Message clipped] > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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