Re: [ubuntu-art] A simple Ubuntu Wallpaper

2012-02-10 Thread Martin Owens
Isn't it on already?

On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 15:55 +1100, Jackson Isted wrote:
 When is the contest on?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] A simple Ubuntu Wallpaper

2012-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Daniel,

Looks great, will you be submitting it to the wallpaper contest?

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 12:48 -0800, i-Daniel wrote:
 Hello guys, since i'm new on ubuntu art community and i made just one
 simple
 wallpaper [ With effects  no Effects ] for now. But i will come with
 more.
 Waiting for your replies. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Web Art

2012-01-14 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 23:52 -0400, Dub wrote:
 I doubt it, that's not our job that's the staff at Canonicals.

There are some things that Canonical doesn't want the community to do.
Things like design on secrete deals with hardware makers and acting as
legal council. But in most other regards they're quite open to
interoperability.

For any practice, there is the LoCo Portal [1] and Summit projects for
anyone who wants to get right into it. Ideas can be carried back to the
main Ubuntu website or as noted, you can talk to the people who do the
main Ubuntu website.

[1] https://launchpad.net/loco-team-portal

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello!

2011-11-28 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Chad,

Great to hear from you and that you are enthused and ready to go. We're
currently chatting in #ubuntu-design on freenode about doing user
interface and other design projects, please join us and get involved.

That also goes for everyone else lurking on the ubuntu-art mailing list!

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 11:21 -0800, Chad Linton wrote:
 I do some work with user interaction, design, and a limited amount of
 graphic design. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Just joined

2011-11-03 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Calcmandan,

Welcome to the Ubuntu-Art group, it's great to have you.

more below...

On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 13:05 -0700, calcmandan wrote:
 I'd like to assist with the art side of things. I've done a bit of
 coding in
 the past, but I'm more fluid with graphics than anything. The last few
 days,
 I've been reading up on canonical standards and such but there's still
 plenty for me to read. 

Yes, you should have a look at the design website which contains quite a
few documents and resources for the standards and logos:

http://design.canonical.com/

And a good place to upload your work:

http://spreadubuntu.org/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New member

2011-10-20 Thread Martin Owens
Welcome Joel,

It's great to have you here. Are you mainly in the area of design and
production (html/php) or can you do drawing art as well?

What kinds of things would you like to help with? Do you know any
python? PLaces like the loco directory need more design help and general
help, there are also lots of small pieces that could do with some
art/design attention.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 01:17 -0500, Joel Grissom wrote:
 Anyhow, I am a web designer who is learning PHP and I work on Gimp as
 well as the Adobe creative suite. I just finished my Master of
 Technology, Graphic Information Technology in August at Arizona State
 University. I moved to Houston, TX shortly after that, and I am ready
 to contribute to the Ubuntu Art Project. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpapers in 11.10

2011-07-07 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Ross,

I'm not trolling you; I'm sincerely interested in you making great art
and I will share my hard won wisdom[1] with anybody on the mailing list
when I feel it might be useful.

The core thing about art is that you can't be horribly hurt by honest
critique and blame the culture of the community. We can't always be
fluffy bunnies handing out meaningless platitudes; that's the way to
never get better as a community.

I'm sorry you were hurt by the critique.

Martin[2],

[1] For what little of it there is ;-)
[2] Is not a city type  is a person class.

On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 09:44 +0200, ross richards wrote:
 Urgh, this is such a troll..  Seems a very closed circle of friends,
 not
 very nice at all here..  No ping back as to my art, no mention if it's
 good,
 hell i didn't even mind if it was totally wrong and crap, but to have
 no
 feedback, is not the way to go.
 
 I have been working 73 or more hours on a set of papers for ya, but i
 don't
 think i'm gonna continue.
 
 Count me out, i'm not flaming ya, i'm just bored with you city types. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpapers in 11.10

2011-07-06 Thread Martin Owens
Wallpapers probably shouldn't have the Ubuntu logo or Ubuntu name.

On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:36 +0100, Iain Farrell wrote:
 not least because it doesn't feature the proper Circle of friends 
 or logo 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpapers in 11.10

2011-07-04 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 17:30 +0100, Iain Farrell wrote:
 There isn't really a theme other than great photography

OK, Considering non-photographers were treat badly for the wallpaper
competitions of the past, it's good to know that we're not being strung
along this time round and you're only interested in photographs.

Flickr is great for that.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] (no subject)

2011-06-27 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 20:25 -0700, Mr Mozee wrote:
 I cant understand how someone can get involved with this art ubuntu
 project yet!

Hang out

Talk about art

Respond to requests from other teams

Art!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 23:59 +0530, Prateek Jadhwani wrote:
 
 h...so wht kinda Work we are talkin about... 

Committing patches to your favorite graphics package? :-P


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community wallpaper contest - Re: Looking forwards not back.

2011-05-10 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 20:33 -0400, John Baer wrote:
 
 A suggestion I would make to the group is not include images other
 than the
 default and point users to an online site for images. 

With appropriate deb packaging and use of categorization strategies it
would have been possible to include the wallpapers into the list without
having them actually installed.

Vish, if you can find out what the strength of the .desktop file
categorization project is, we might be able to use it for backgrounds.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Looking forwards not back.

2011-04-28 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 12:39 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote:
 Fine, we need a new team leader as well. I don't want to miss another
 cycle. I hate being subscribed here and not feeling useful.
 Until we get the council to sort it all out, lets have a discussion
 about
 what we want to do with this group. Lets be proactive.

Will you be leader?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Introduction

2011-04-04 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 16:14 -0400, CPS wrote:
 Hi there. I'm Cassandra. I found out that Ubuntu needs artists to make
 icons, etc., and decided to try and help out. I've checked the tasks
 that
 need doing on the wiki, and am wondering how much programming
 knowledge I
 will need to help out here. I'm mostly a graphics person, interested
 in
 submitting things like theme artwork and icons. 

Hey Cassandra,

Thanks for coming to help :-)

There are lots of things to do, for icons I think the best place is to
go to the Tango project (for gnome icons) and to the specific project
for program icons.

There is lots of art required for posters, flyers and such. Let us know
what kind of media you can do in that regard.

Everything else is pretty much up to you and other groups who come here
and ask for art from time to time.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 70, Issue 1

2011-04-03 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 12:22 +0530, kamakshaiah m wrote:
 Can some body tell me how to make an installable Wallpaper. For
 instance, If I have a image or picture which is worth a wallpaper, how
 can I make it available to our community. For that matter even about
 themes. Do I need to have any software knowledge. I am not a person
 from software, any body know please help me. You can also send me some
 material regarding that. Regards, 

Hello,

I did some installable wallpapers, they're interesting and hard to make
because you need to both install the wallpaper and modify all current
user's configurations.

You will probably need to know debian packaging quite well in order to
navigate the mess that is wallpaper packaging.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice

2011-02-19 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 16:37 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
 
 
 Sure, a meeting to resolve this sounds good.
 
 Someone kindly take the initiative and set a datetime when John can
 attend.

We tried that. It didn't work so well. I think we'd need personal
attention from the CC. As an Ubuntu team our communal authority is the
Code of Conduct and the Community Council. Jono and Ivanka are great
people to go to for advice and they will help, but they're not the right
people if they are the only people to get involved.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where is the Love?

2011-02-19 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 08:59 -0500, John Baer wrote:
 As I am not aware I have prevented anyone from doing as they wish -
 what
 changes?

It's true, you do support and encourage anarchy. You don't prevent
people from being individuals; instead you prevent them being a team.
And that is the crux of the problem John, I'd dearly love you to be a
part of the team, but your actions have shown that you are duplicitous
and untrustworthy when it comes to forming social bonds.

 My desire has always been to encourage participation. If a member
 desires to
 assume leadership start being a leader as there is no value in the
 assigning
 of blame and the complaining of what could have been.

As we know from the CoC, taking leadership is about being decisive and
considerate of everyone. This position requires the most amazing social
skills in order to listen and understand all people, even people that
don't personally agree.

Taking leadership by doing random things in random ways without talking
to anyone isn't leadership. It's awesome for an individual, but it's
unhealthy for a team when those things conflict with other team members;
where your resolution is based on ignoring and continuing to
misrepresent.

 If I am truly the problem teach me and help me understand how I can do
 better. Find the love as I assume members participate to add value to
 Ubuntu
 and the greater community. There is no value in a rant or flame.

The first aim would be to agree that you are not the Ubuntu ArtWork
Team, you don't represent the collected views of the team and are not
good at forming a consensus.

If you want to do something under the banner of the ArtWork Team, you
would contact the leadership and consult prior to action. This way you
can give a full account and at least some dialectic can take place.

Of course you're free to do anything you like outside of the Ubuntu
ArtWork Team banner, just use your own name and make it clear that no
authority has sanctioned you or even agreed that what you're doing is
sane.

Misuse of the ArtWork Teams name is the up-most important issue for you
to take care of. You are not the leader and do not speak on behalf of
the team, the team is not anarchistic and even if the people _are_
autonomous; the team name must not be free for all chaos and you must
not use it without permission.

 If the driver for all of this is the Flickr group General
 Illustrations (
 http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-10-0/pool/ ), what is the problem?

You did it without asking and then said it was official. Causing chaos
and mistrust.

 From where I sit it seems to be working and adding value.

You are adding one mans value while destroying the entire team. That's
not productive in the grand scheme of things. Your chaos is locally
productive and globally disruptive.

 If this is going to be a problem I am sure ***Iain
 would have contacted me long ago.

I'm not sure why you think he would know, or care to check that people
were being directed to submit art to random places online with the
mistaken promise that they would be judged.

 I firmly believe Ubuntu and the greater community will
 appreciate the love.

Please, consider taking a year or two break. Enough time for us to get a
team leadership founded and the technical roots growing. Then we can
take your submissions and enthusiasm and not have it wilt the social
foundations before they've had time to set.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] IMPORTANT : Natty illustration wallpaper submissions group

2011-02-18 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 08:50 -0500, John Baer wrote:
 My assumption is you share
 the same role as the rest of us - Artwork Team member. 

Nah, Vish is supreme leader of all Artdom, we elected him last night in
a rigged ballet.

Seriously John, that high-horse of yours is looking rickety. If you want
to have your own group of artists, that's fine. But don't pretend that
art submitted in one unofficial-baer-place is tantamount to submitting
to a blessed-by-the-community-place.

You remember the community right? It's that collective of people that
talk about issues, come to a consensus and then collectively push for
the consensus forward, even if it ended up being different to what any
one personal member thought.

So far you've done all you can to poison this group's ability to make
consensus. This is not how communities are run and I ask you again to
step down from the group.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Acting first

2011-02-18 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 21:19 +0300, Сергей wrote:
 
 You know, John is not the only person on this list who acts first and
 discusses later. And I think we ALL should be more collaborative. 

Owl was created way in the past as a trial to see if cchost could offer
us the same functions that are enjoyed by the Debian team and their
cchost deployment.

Because it's php based(1) and because of various technical
challenges(2), it could never be an official site. When discussing this
issue at UDS with the majority of Art team members and Canonical design
people it was apparent that it wasn't suitable; if it was useful for a
stop gap it could be used for this cycle while we worked out our tools.

It is not just a lack of leadership that hurts this team, but a complete
lack of technical tools with which to base a team on. It's quite clear
that flickr, like deviantArt, is not suitable as a base of operations
for all we need to do and constantly sorting between the ubuntu wiki and
these external image caches isn't effective.

And I think it's the rejection of flickr technologically is what has
Baer behaving so horrendously. But even that, with humility, or sense of
friendship could have been worked on and we could have gotten a team
leadership together which included him.

That isn't happening now.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

(1) Canonical doesn't allow php websites on their servers, too insecure.
(2) We don't have any php developers and the site's kindly donated
machine moved from 8.04 to 10.04 and php4 to php5. That crippled the
whole functionality of it and it was abandoned.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Goodbye

2011-02-17 Thread Martin Owens
Thanks for all your work thorwil,

On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:40 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 Our combined inability or unwillingness to deal with repeated 
 misrepresentations and incredible ignorance from one member pisses me 
 off to no end and spoils the last bit of fun. 

I understand, I've reduced my participation because of the same member.
This team isn't worth being involved with any more because it's a team
that only exists to serve one member; a member who will distort, lie and
outright misrepresent in order to bully the consensus so things are done
his way.

The only way to recover will probably be to make a new team without him.
With him explicitly banned from entry. Unfortunately, we've tried
everything else.

Maybe in the future we'll be able to pick up the pieces.

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[ubuntu-art] Art Request: Install On Ubuntu

2011-01-28 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Guys,

There is a request to put together a short guide for FOSS Projects and
Canonical's ISVs* to give an explanation and some examples of how best
to show on their websites that you can install their software on Ubuntu.

The plan is to show as a primary link an apt:// url and then to
gracefully degrade to a deb link or other download if that fails.

What the project needs for art is a set of default, nice looking buttons
in a various sizes: 2^, 1.5x1, 2x1 and 1x2 aprox. These would need to be
SVG based so they could be resized and basically say Install on Ubuntu
Now, it's your choice if you want scroll over effects.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/InstallOnUbuntu

If you'd like to help, please add your design this page. Make sure you
edit the page and add in your svg files for download.

The graphics will eventually go into the draft documentation and
hopefully made available to projects.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art Request: Install On Ubuntu

2011-01-28 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 15:00 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote:
 
 issues, kerning for example. svg's need to be designed as some base
 size. 

For issues of kerning, take 1 unit to be 150px. So 150x150, 150x225,
150x300 and 300x150

Add that into the wiki if you think it's important info. But if you're
going to do the art, then keep it to yourself and just add your images
in.

Thanks guys :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for LibreCAD (future CAD program in Edubuntu/Ubuntu)

2011-01-21 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 09:26 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 It's sad this is being framed as a contest. 

Thorsten, the contest framing is why I only conceptualized and threw
that up. It's not worth doing more than adding to ideas and then getting
on with something else.

Not to say that there isn't a value in lots of people putting ideas into
a hat. It's just expecting finished results from each singular entries I
have an issue with. Besides, some people like to make lines, some people
like to make shades. Be a shame if they were competing against each
other ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase

2011-01-21 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 16:32 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote:
 Drawing may be too general of a word, too many definitions in English;
 Depicting Freedom(?) 

Drawing is fine, in English it's the context it's involved in. So
drawing in freedom is different to the drawing of freedom etc. Many
words like 'set' have lots of definitions and yet are still usable.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Backtestground Explained

2011-01-21 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 13:46 -0800, graham wrote:
 Congratulations on your creativity. I use to do a lot of this when I 
 was doing graphic design/technical writing and would have loved to
 have 
 had such a script. 

Interestingly, the Ubuntu Manual team last year developed a tool called
'quickshot' that allowed the automation of screenshots so that many
screenshots could be taken in a set of languages based on a set task
list downloaded from a central webserver.

http://ubuntu-manual.org/quickshot

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for LibreCAD (future CAD program in Edubuntu/Ubuntu)

2011-01-20 Thread Martin Owens
My simple concept:

http://imagebin.org/133639

Not finished. Anyone else is free to draw on it.

Martin,

On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 17:54 -0500, Scott Howard wrote:
 Hello artists,
 
 QCad is a very popular GPL CAD program in Debian and Ubuntu. However,
 upstream has not released a new version in a while, and will be
 removed from Debian after squeeze. A new fork of the project,
 LibreCAD has started. They have already ported QCad to qt4 and
 implemented many community patches that the original upstream did not
 have the resources to test and implement. The Edubuntu team is
 currently working on getting LibreCAD included in natty. The package
 is working, but we are lacking a desktop icon and good splash screen.
 
 www.librecad.org is running a design contest for their logos.
 Information is on their site. We're looking for a standard
 freedesktop.org icon (.svg preferred).
 
 The package is available at ppa:showard314/librecad
 https://launchpad.net/~showard314/+archive/librecad/
 
 Please take a look, and I'm sure upstream will welcome any
 contributions you can make!
 
 Thank you.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Video Animations

2011-01-19 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 09:23 +, Ivanka Majic wrote:
 
 How do you think we should go about attracting people like this? Is
 it 
 tools we are missing or is it people with the right creative skills? 

People with the right skills not knowing the tools we have to make
things like this _and_ them mostly hanging out in very different
communities.

I don't think we have any Ubuntu group or set of people on NewGrounds or
vimeo etc. It's hard to know what these arts would like when we don't
really know them.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] 3 community wallpapers will be included in Natty

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 21:43 -0500, John Baer wrote:
 Thank you for your kind words but I am unaware of how this decision
 was
 made. 

How is any decision made? Someone comes along and makes the decision.
You don't have to be anyone here to make a decision. I've always thought
that was a flaw in our team organisational structure to be honest.

Oh well, at least we get a guarantee of 3 illustrative wallpapers on the
CD. I'd be nice to see the nod from the desktop team about the inclusion
though to make sure it's all good.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] remove me

2010-12-09 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 22:12 +, the.adventure.ish...@gmail.com wrote:
 Remove me 

Everyone must remove themselves using the list at the bottom of every
email. for example:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dates

2010-11-25 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 12:51 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 
 We should standardize on one date format for the wiki. I propose ISO
 8601, as it was created just for this reason. It's also great for
 sorting. 

It's also the international standard. I see no reason not to enforce the
convention for clarity going forward.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-22 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 12:20 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
 But I have *never* seen the 192px
 image used anywhere. 

It's used on launchpad by the mugshots page:

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-beginners/+mugshots

It's also interestingly used by groundcontrol for branding if your team
owns a branch of code. SVG is recommended to help with being able to
fill various sizes.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance

2010-11-20 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 12:16 -0700, Mike Basinger wrote:
 I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and
 made some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums)

I really like it, it's nice and bright and seems balanced.

My only critique is that the icons are repetitive, even one more design
would be handy. There are some nice pictograms here I found:

http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/site-button/ubuntu-pictograms-i-events

Note: I filed a bug so we could do a search for spreadubuntu items with
svg sources to make it easier to find good source material. Just put svg
into the source extension box (not ideal) and limit the results to all
those with svg sources.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Posters for Zimbabwe

2010-11-19 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Raymond,

OK so there are no set requirements, but there are some good guidelines
and examples:

http://spreadubuntu.org/en/get-materials?field_media_value_many_to_one=Posterfield_purpose_value_many_to_one=Allfield_derivative_value_many_to_one=Allfield_version_value_many_to_one=All

You can download the sources to a lot of those posters and simply edit
them for your own use and redesign elements if you like. I like using
svg as it's the most flexible source format but it's up to you if you
like using Inkscape.

Once you've completed your poster, please do post it to spread ubuntu to
share the work. Also making sure to post your sources.

Best of Luck, Martin Owens

On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 15:33 +0200, Raymond Swart wrote:
 Hi my name is Raymond Swart and I would like to set myself a personal
 task of creating posters our loco team can use in Zimbabwe. I would
 like
 them to be as official as possible for a loco team. Please could I
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 guidelines/requirements etc so that I may begin work on this. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Help with Wallpaper Spec

2010-11-18 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 15:51 -0800, j_baer wrote:
 * png file format

Any reason svg wouldn't be allowed?

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[ubuntu-art] Nucleus Meeting Confirmed

2010-11-16 Thread Martin Owens
Hey everyone,

The meeting will be on the 26th of November 2010 at 16:00 UTC, I've
attached a cal file for everyone who can import them and have their
calendar do the time zone magic.

Attending Note: Vish said Kenneth Wimer was the artwork's team lead, he
really needs to be at this meeting so we can decide a few things.

Subject: This meeting is basically about the core group of artwork team
members and making sure that everyone is approaching the group in the
same way. All teams need a core nucleus of people in order to function
as an anchor for the culture and functions the team performs.

Agenda:

 * Leadership - I'd like there to be a resolution person/group who's job
is not to decide the workings of the team, but to resolve issues and
speak on behalf on the team outside. This may include formalising the
team's nucleus people into a council.
 * Grievance - Everyone given an opportunity to explain if they have any
outstanding issues, what they are and how they should be resolved. New
leader(s) can make final call if consensus can not be reached.

Quick Agenda - We're just going to reiterate over these items to make
sure that everyone knows, agrees and is actively participating, It's
very important that the core people are in strong agreement on the core
activities of the group:

 * Promotion - What is considered good promotion and what is not.
 * Organisation - How we define what work needs to be done.
 * Submissions - How we are currently accepting submissions.

Please make this meeting if you can.

Best Regards, Martin Owens
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Survey

2010-11-15 Thread Martin Owens
Hey J_Baer,

Each time I've tried to paste you the link, we seem to miss each other
on IRC.

Here you go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010/Art

Although responses were very muted so there isn't much data.

Martin,

On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 18:33 -0800, j_baer wrote:
 Vish - Martin - Thorsten,
 
 There was talk at UDS about doing a community survey. Any thoughts on how we
 can make this happen?
 
 John
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 http://old.nabble.com/Community-Survey-tp30210588p30210588.html
 Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
 
 



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[ubuntu-art] Nucleous Meeting

2010-11-15 Thread Martin Owens
Hey everyone,

I'd like for the key parties of our community here to sit down in IRC
and talk about some of the things that we should be all agreeing to. If
you plan on dedicating time to organising and helping with the group
please fill out this doodle poll specifying when you'll be available:

http://doodle.com/fwkh25nm6p93tsip

Please note that this shows UTC times, so please convert for your time
zone on those dates.

I'd like to especially invite j_baer, thorwil, vish and saleel to the
meeting.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread Martin Owens
Hey David,

Thanks for getting us an email about your needs. Does the TDF have a set
of requirements and/or briefs to work from and a place to upload
contributions?

How wide would you like participation? We could throw this further than
just this Ubuntu group if you like.

Martin,

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 15:41 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
 I'm a member of the LibreOffice community. LibreOffice (LibO) is the
 office suite project of The Document Foundation (TDF), the
 community-driven organization that recently forked from the
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Re: [ubuntu-art] screenshots.ubuntu.com

2010-11-10 Thread Martin Owens
Sounds good.

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 12:54 +, Ivanka Majic wrote:
 This approach fits into my normal workflow so, from a purely selfish 
 point of view I would like to pursue this approach. For now, I
 suggest 
 posting the briefs to this artlist and then people can elect to
 subscribe. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr is the best interim Image Repository

2010-11-01 Thread Martin Owens
Felipe,

You have to remove yourself from the list. We can't remove it for you.
On each email you get you will see a link at the bottom which you can
click to unsubscribe.

Martin,

On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:22 -0200, Felipe Fernandes Gonçalves wrote:



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Light Wiki Mockup

2010-10-31 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 08:21 -0700, j_baer wrote:
 In your opinion what would be a good repository for submissions now
 ( wiki,
 flickr, foopics ) ? 

ccHost, without a doubt that's the best tool for actual submissions for
the immediate. The only thing that needs to be done is to move it's svg
preview from imagemagick to rsvg-convert.

The wiki can be used for all the documentation for the projects. I
thought this was the agreed plan? (just to confirm, ivanka that's what
we have in the blueprint?)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Light Wiki Mockup

2010-10-31 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:32 -0700, j_baer wrote:
 I am willing to jump in and help but I am confused. 
 
 Is ccHost going away to be replaced by django? 

ccHost is a stop gap so we can have submissions for this cycle. It's
there, it's foss and it's not utterly terrible.

For a good design we'll be following the outcome of the research we're
going to do.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Light Wiki Mockup

2010-10-30 Thread Martin Owens
Hey John,

On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 21:21 -0400, John Baer wrote:
 I completed a proof of concept Artwork Wiki site based on the new
 light theme [ not fully functional :) ].

So these processes and tools are the tools we're going to use for this
cycle to develop our design research on the art/design website task?

We may end up jettersoning the wiki altogether, we certainly won't end
up using ccHost I don't think since it's php. But what ever we use I
think for this cycle we need to be aware of how temporary and transitory
our situation is.

 Submission and submission comments could be handle by ccHost {?}.
 
 http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/people/jbaer
 
 We have some work to do here. :)

I've done the smallest amount of work to support the projects we have in
the required ways. Other than that it's not good time to fix it up more.
IMO.

I'll be working some more on our django project, some code etc and I
hope daker, thorwil and others want to continue looking into the design
and production of the website with me.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposed Submission Location (Martin Owens)

2010-10-29 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 17:30 -0400, John Baer wrote:
 
 Thanks for sharing this site. As I do not know anything about ccHost
 would this application theme using one of the light web-site themes to
 adhere to the branding standards? 

I don't know if it's worth doing branding for a site which may be
tempary. But you're welcome to download the code and submit a merge
request here:

https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~owlers

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposed Submission Location

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 09:41 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote:
 How do want us to test it?
 --Saleel 

Please create an account (if not already) and submit a few test items.
SVG/PNG etc. Then report back any problems and thoughts.

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[ubuntu-art] Proposed Submission Location

2010-10-27 Thread Martin Owens
Our experimental project for helping to develop the workflow of material
design in Ubuntu which has been discussed at UDS this week needs a
location where we can upload content.

To this end I have looked into using our experimental ccHost website for
this purpose and have set up an example entry for the proposed project.
This is NOT yet live and shouldn't be considered to be ready for
submissions. But testing the website should be a good thing.

Even if this is not the website we end up using after our other design
research, this will be a good tool to use for the experimental process.

http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/submit

Things I've done:

 * Created a special project upload location:
http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/submit/launchpadediticon
 * Created a project tag so entries can be tracked:
http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/tags/lpediticon
 * Added the contributors agreement, links and image (see links above)

This and the admin pages should be all we need to upload content for
this experiment, but I'd be happy to hear you're thoughts.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] I'm 2D designer, I want to participate with you!

2010-10-22 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Joe,

Welcome!

What would you like to do? Make a wallpaper? an icon? some designs?

Martin,

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 22:41 +0100, Joe Xavi wrote:



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello everyone!

2010-10-22 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 22:39 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote:
 I started on this, and then midterms hit: this is what I have so far:
 I am so sorry for dropping the ball on this. 

It's nice work :-) I like the two tone version and the colour one only
needs features I think. You don't even have to go all that detailed, the
images for ibex were great because of their simplicity.

Yea stuff like this is hard right now because we do it ad-hock. If youd
had said you were doing it on a website that emailed you and pestered
you about it, then you'd be on hook ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do!

2010-10-13 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 22:06 -0400, John Baer wrote:
 Martin you stated in a post on 10/07 your intent to attend UDS. Sadly
 I can not join you but I and others would like to contribute to
 discussions in some other manner. I share the same time zone as UDS
 but I am generally unavailable during the day.
 
 Perhaps some impromptu evening meetings on the IRC would be
 beneficial. :) 

If there aren't enough people at UDS from the Art Team, then we may end
up having to have a real meeting.

My first thoughts on this team is that we need real software to manage
job requests, announcements (blogs/feeds etc) and submissions. The wiki
is a stop gap in my opinion which needs a nice and healthy replacement.
There is no shortage of candidates and we could move more towards debian
with cchost or more towards fedora with (er, I forget the name) with
their art management software. We have lots of choice here and I'd be
happy to head it up and collect together requirements.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] A call for help!

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 11:43 -0400, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:
 Suggestions and comments are welcome.
 
 -Jonathan

Wonderful job *hurrah*

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[ubuntu-art] Sites and Duplication

2010-10-05 Thread Martin Owens
Hey folks,

I'll be at UDS in Orlando so if any of you will be there, do come and
see me and we can talk more about this issue.

We have a problem in our community of a great deal of duplication, each
solution focuses on a small slice and as such there is lots of
functionality which should be shared but isn't. Here is what I know
about:

-- Official Websites --

 * Ubuntu Art Wikipage - Informational
 * Spread Ubuntu - Store of artworks, needs work
 * Ubuntu Look - Store of themes, wallpapers etc
 * Ubuntu Owl Art - Experimental ccHost build for learning materials.

-- Community Outreach --

 * Ubuntu Flickr Group
 * Ubuntu Artists deviantArt group

-- Related Programs --

* Ubuntu Wallpapers Contest Wikipage
* Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase

If you know things I'm missing from this list, let me know.

So basically I'd like to reduce the duplication of effort in the
official websites. This would mean cutting down on sites and focusing on
improving the functionality of a single site to make sure it can do the
majority of handling media.

The spread ubuntu website seems to be the most successful in terms of
functionality and visibility. It's focus is on providing advertising
materials, but there is no reason it can't be expanded to include
partial materials and software art too (wallpapers, themes etc). It's
PHP so that counts against it, but then most of these websites are PHP
too so it's a devil of a thing in all cases because we can't share code
with the loco directory or other python based ubuntu sites.

Thoughts?

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[ubuntu-art] Community Feedback

2010-09-23 Thread Martin Owens
Hey everyone,

I need three or four people to give us some feedback on how we operate
the Ubuntu art team and the art communities in general. You need to be
recent members and have a desire to or have worked on making Ubuntu
pretty.

* How did you learn about this part of the community?
* What attracted you to this type of participation?
* Where did you look first for information on getting involved?
* Did you feel the places you looked for information were useful? If
not, how could we improve?
* When learning skills and content for participating, were the resources
you used useful? If not, how could we improve?
* What recommendations would you make for improving your experience in
our community?

Email me privately if you want to be anonymous.

* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Solutions

2010-09-20 Thread Martin Owens


On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 11:15 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote:
 Would it be possible to share .xcf component files as well? And I
 suppose .ai files since inkscape does a decent job of opening those.
 I'll throw something up there in relation to the xubuntu wallpaper
 (which I suppose should be splintered into another thread.)

I'd be happy to have xcf for certain cases, for instance wallpapers and
paint designs etc. Less happy with raster images for designs, materials
and publishing bits etc.

I'd rather not accept ai files, they're hard to build previews for and
should be converted to svg before uploading.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Owl's ccHost Website

2010-09-20 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 14:12 -0700, j_baer wrote:
 It sounds like most agree the Wiki is not a good solution for our
 purpose.
 The Design Hub which is available from Live Gnome (
 http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/Whiteboard/DesignHub ) looks
 interesting but may require additional development work.
 
 What are the chances we could leverage this effort into our
 infrastructure
 solution? Can we call out for developers? If the answer is no, what
 other
 solution holds the most promise. We have the solution proposed by
 Martin. 

I would also say that ccHost is what Debian uses for it's art site.

http://www.debianart.org/cchost/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Solutions

2010-09-19 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 00:32 -0500, Jake Tolbert wrote:
 Doing design in a open source sort of way is really, really difficult
 (I haven't yet seen a successful model--it may exist, but I haven't
 seen it), which, I assume, is why it's not happening here.

I'd point to games for both successes to emulate and lessons from
failures. Take Battle for Wesnoth, wonderful graphics, very unified and
everything has a good feeling.

 Unfortunately, until this community has a way to meaningful way to
 actually contribute to Ubuntu, I think it'll continue to languish. I'm
 not trying to be negative--on the contrary, I think there's a LOT of
 potential here (I really think Ubuntu has the potential to break
 through the outlandishly difficult problem of open source design). I'm
 just not smart enough to solve the problem itself.

Well this group competes against Mark's own thoughts and preferences, so
it's not hard to see who would win when one has employees and a direct
line into implementation and everyone else has been relegated to
sub-meteoritic discussion (although it's very slowly getting better).

For design I'd stick with Ayatana, for art, some marketing, some ubuntu
studio work, working with the art community on their needs and generally
working on arty things like themes, icons, sound themes and so on which
we _know_ won't be in the release, but at least could be made very
easily available.

Part of the problem with art from a packaging side is that very few
artists know how to package themes, wallpapers and other things, should
we have an education project based around that?

I could see us doing a bit of research too in how to make customising
the desktop with our artwork easier. Right now including wallpapers on
the CD is the only way to get them listed in the wallpaper choosing
dialog. There is no reason for that limitation other than coding and
having ways to see online art in context would be a big boon for many
customisation artists.

Thoughts?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] A request

2006-06-12 Thread Martin Owens
It's more important to use open formats than open software, I would have 
concerns if the files were saved in .ai or .cdr rather than svg and that the 
components of the design where some how withheld from other artists and 
developers preventing the maintenance of the art.

Why should I care what the program you used to make it was? use what you work 
best in and produce some great art.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:22:42 +0200 , Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

I don't think that it doesn't belong in Linux. It's not a sin to use 
proprietary software, nor is it a sin to work on Linux with different 
operating systems. It's not like icons made on a Mac or Windows PC are 
stolen wares or negatively connotated in any way. They're just icons.

Myself, I'm simply a designer who's used to using Adobe's products, like 
most others in this profession. I contribute to Ubuntu in my spare time, 
and if I had to try and learn GIMP or Inkscape, I wouldn't have any time 
left to contribute. And what are the real advantages of switching to 
either of those programs? It won't make my art any better, but it will 
make some people feel better, even though the users of the software 
largely will not care or even know.

I'm thankful, however, that a lot of people have responded to this by 
saying that they're okay with the usage of proprietary software. I just 
wanted to make sure that this list won't actively discourage users to 
contribute if they do. It's actually this reason why I haven't started 
contributing to Ubuntu since around the Hoary cycle. I just didn't feel 
like I belonged in what seemed to be a small and strict community.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Almost CRITICAL QUESTION: From IRC.

2006-05-31 Thread Martin Owens
Do let me know if you need a hand, I've been sort of waiting in the wings for a 
chance at the media art work.

On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0700 , Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Yes sorry Oliver, I missed those.

Anyways, there is a printing issue regarding colours.

Thankfully ompaul is doing the work to fix it in time.

Thanks for your input Oliver.  I guess they weren't cleared
with the printer before it became a little 'critical'.

  He needs the NEW marketing artwork I believe.  *sigh*, once
 well, you will hardly find something newer than 6.06 LTS CD
 wallets/labels for ed,k,ubuntu, these are the covers and labels used for
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello All

2006-05-11 Thread Martin Owens
I have contacted Canonical directly about it, perhaps we could set up an effort 
which formalised the creation of media artwork as it has a different aspect 
which crosses over into the marketing world.

I notice the marketing group currently deals with people who _do_ market ubuntu 
rather than those that produce the materials which they can use to effectively 
market.

I'm not sure if Canonical will like this idea though, the whole idea a 
volunteer group that makes marketing materials for oss seems new to me (perhaps 
mozilla has one I don't know).

I would envisage a group effort to prepare, proofread and make available the 
materials that enable effective marketing; one that creates not just CD covers 
but things like banners, fliers, CD/DVD inserts (instructions/help information) 
as well as CD covers, CD case art works and logos. This would take the hard 
work out of spreading ubuntu in creating a professional and consistent image 
for the ubuntu 'brand'.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:23:13 -0700 , Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
On 5/7/06, Martin Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, well this all started because I did some designs for me and my friends:

 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/drmo/ubuntu/

 who are Canonical? the company that deals with the distribution?


Canonical is the company that currently funds most of the Ubuntudevelopment. 
Until recently, there hasn't been an artwork team, hence
Canonical has been doing the cd cover artwork.

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[ubuntu-art] Hello All

2006-05-07 Thread Martin Owens
I've come from the ubuntu marketing list, I want to get involved in producing 
artwork for ubuntus physical media. does the art team deal with this?

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