Activity Log Manager 0.9.4 released (with UI and translation changes)
Hi Friends, On behalf of the Zeitgeist team I am happy to announce Activity Log Manager 0.9.4 released https://launchpad.net/activity-log-manager/0.9/0.9.4 Changelog - * Fix LP #957891 and #958483 to make Diagnositics tab translatable * Fix LP #949849 when X-GNOME-Keywords is changed to Keywords * Fix untranslated strings in Application and History tab * Add border to folder blacklist TreeView * Fixed a segmentation fault dued to null pixbufs. * Make the AppSelection dialog to be orderer automatically by usage. * Force the size of the blacklisted directory's text to be consistent with the size of the label above. * Use gtk-execute as application's icon if the application's icon isn't in the current IconTheme. * Added Today and Yesterday instead of the date, matching the mockup. * The Folders blacklisted have icons if they are special folders * The blacklisted Folders list show the folder name and the folder path for each entry About Zeitgeist: - Zeitgeist is a service which logs the users's activities and events (files opened, websites visited, conversations held with other people, etc.) and makes relevant information available to other applications. It is able to establish relationships between items based on similarity and usage patterns. About Activity Log Manager - Activity Log Manager is a graphical user interface which lets you easily control what gets logged by Zeitgeist. It supports setting up blacklists according to several criteria (such as application or file types), temporarily stopping all logging as well as deleting recent events. -- Manish GPG Key: 9E6622AB -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Activity Log Manager 0.9.3 released (with UI and translation changes)
Hi Friends, On behalf of the Zeitgeist team I am happy to announce Activity Log Manager 0.9.3 released https://launchpad.net/activity-log-manager/0.9/0.9.3 Bugs fixed: * #930093 Application blacklist does not block application launches https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/930093 * #925638 Application selection TreeView should show last used and usage https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/925638 * #944362 i18n problems in activity-log-manager https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/944362 * #944993 Typo in /src/history-widget.vala:68 https://bugs.launchpad.net/activity-log-manager/+bug/944993 Changes: * The Application selection list shows usage of applications * Some whoopsie related files have been added to i18n system Known issues: - * #925637 Folder blacklisted list should be enhanced to match with the prototype https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/925637 -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: [ubuntu-in] libssl1.0.0:i386 ...on 64bit OS ... why ???
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Jkhatri khatri.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All can anyone spotlight on this I've Ubuntu 11.10 64bit installed on one of my Laptop and running fine, today morning I've received a message that two[1][2] updates are available to install, which are as following [1] libssl1.0.0:i386 (size 974kb) [2] openssl (size: 516kb) now the first question is why I'm getting i386 package as update on 64bit OS ??? when I try to install that two updates through update manager, it shows following[3] error [3] The following packages have unmet dependencies: libssl1.0.0: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7) but 2.13-20ubuntu5 is installed Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4) but 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu3 is installed libssl1.0.0:i386: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7) but 2.13-20ubuntu5 is installed Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4) but 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu3 is installed How to resolve the issue ... is there anyone other who is facing this problem ??? Warm Regards -- */ Jatin Khatri RHCSA RHCE CCNA www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin Phone (+91) 98250 20393 Save Paper, Save Environment.** (Plant at least one tree in your life and nurture it !!!) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in Hello, I would suggest you to ask this question on askubuntu.com since it would reach a wider audience Please put the output of lsb_release -a sudo apt-get upgrade Once done, please post the link - Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy silly themes, desktop-effects!
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Life Monad lifemo...@gmail.com wrote: But when I see Unity,I am confused. Did I need test my program on Unity? These desktop env have different API UX. Programs can't do a good seamless integration with desktop env(also file managers such as Nautilus . Konqueror). Every desktop environment has some differences. Many share common APIs. What actually is your point. You should not expect a KDE application to run as smoothly in Unity/GNOME as it runs in KDE. Some integration might be missing. Hn...Ha... Why not GNOME X.X? Great Unification. I like GNOME shell, but again it is personal choice. Use whatever you want Ubuntu,Please listen to us. The voice from users! I never voted you to be the voice of users. Please speak for yourself. Office suit has changed only once and there is a genuine reason. Window buttons has changed only once. You want a dumb theme? Why drop Unity? Just because you don't like it? Many users like Unity. They just use it with satisfaction without spamming the Internet on how much they like Unity (unlike Unity haters) Now,I choose Xubuntu, never Unity I am happy you found your choice of desktop in the Ubuntu family. I found mine. There is an extremely loud vocal minority which hates Unity, due to which many people fall in a delusion that everyone hates Unity. You want to know what is the problem with any Ubuntu discussion these days? People can't just talk about anything these days without facing the Unity hater crowd. Look at this. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sl8EjF5vsf4/Tzis4sfU5tI/EP0/Pb0Eafp1WmE/s924/unitycommonsense.png I know you are tired. You need rest while the Ubuntu developers are listening to their users and striking a fine balance between satisfying everyone's personal pet wish and developing the desktop which can be used by the majority. The best solution is not just blindly listening to users and doing what they ask for. Sometimes you need to say a firm NO and do what actually is good for everyone rather than listen to someone and fulfill his pet wish. You must have heard this quote from Henry Ford: -- If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they would have said a faster horse. -- Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: EOG vs Shotwell Viewer
It might be worth exploring to enhance the integration between EOG and shotwell though I think eog supports python plugins (using libpeas?). So can we have a plugin which adds a button on the toolbar Edit with Shotwell which opens shotwell image viewer which has basic image editing features. - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: EOG vs Shotwell Viewer
I think shotwell viewer has matured enough to replace EOG. It has all the expected features and more + consistency for free Even I feel Shotwell viewer should be used as image viewer. Just a small issue I face is that it takes more time to open (personal experience) The basic image editing features like crop etc in shotwell viewer are really nice things. - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
I am glad I found this email. I can relate to it in many ways. I've tried to get involved in developing Ubuntu, but nobody has reached out. 11.10 is so bad on my machine I reverted to 10.04. I never liked Unity, it's silly and implies heavy use of the mouse. I want to use the keyboard to navigate everything. I use Unity only with keyboard and not with mouse and it is more keyboard friendly than the old gnome panel. You probably need to learn the keyboard shortcuts before making such statements like unity usage needs heavy use of mouse. The keyboard cheat sheet is available on askubuntu - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
The Unity API is minimal. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI I can't position, I can't edit, I can't remove and I can't add anything. You are comparing a very mature and years old product Firefox with a very recent app called Unity. I am not a Unity dev but I would personally prefer that they put more efforts in making Unity more stable and smooth than adding customization options and making the path towards breaking unity more easier. You said you don't want customizeability (I mean, you make unity have unmodifiable defaults) and you said you want more apps (I mean, you put a huge effort in the Ubuntu Software Store), but these two things are a contradication, because *if we can't do anything, It isn't contradiction. Think about it, write an app which makes a beautiful UI for editing preferences already exposed by Unity. Put it in software center. Plus non customization doesn't mean it is contradiction to app development. If you are writing a word processor app or a media player app how does it matter that for that app to run Unity needs to be more customizable? why should we develop apps for you*? What do you mean by we? It can be reworded as why should *I* write apps for you. Plus I don't know where we are going with this *you* and *us* mentality. Plus, Firefox writes tutorials that start from overview, allow to go in-depth, have examples and I think Ubuntu should do that too developer.ubuntu.com is aimed towards that - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
You're very defensive, argumentative and coming off as belligerent I never knew reply to an aggressive mail is called defensive reply. Anyway I hope you got all your replies and all the questions were answered. By the way thanks for personal attacks. I won't reply back the same way. - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Deeper Zeitgeist integration. Installation of datasources for default applications etc
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Didier Roche didro...@ubuntu.com wrote: Yeah, this seem a right goal, it's part of things I tracked, but wasn't considered a priority last cycle with all the other changes coming. Now, it's maybe time to integrate them. Sounds good. Now some questions: - do you have automatic testsuite for them, running on different versions of upstream projects? Not right now, but I can create them. I can create them for atleast those apps which are default in Ubuntu - how do oyu work with firefox in particular, where we update the released version through release life? We generally avoid shipping plugins for this reason. Our old version of firefox datasource was using XUL/binary components. After the horror, of it breaking every cycle, Mark Tully ported it to js-ctypes. js-ctypes was introduced in Firefox 4.0. So, an upgrade won't break it. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/js-ctypes http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/09/hello-js-ctypes-goodbye-binary-components/ Mark Tully also has also created an internet/web lens which can use the events of firefox and thunderbird. - can you elaborate on one of the major flaw of zeitgeist which seems a bigger priority to me: when you plug an usb key, or have a windows/ubuntu partition, as zeitgeist isn't a indexer, we can't see them in the file lens in particularly. I know that Seif has a script for that, but it doesn't seem to be suited for indexing and Mikkel has some concerns about it. Can we put that on the table as one of the priority for Precise? Yes, that script is present in activity-log-manager (the version is not released). I was working on it and found that the current version was pretty slow. Probably some tricks can be undertaken to make it index only upto a specific depth. The other option can be that file-lens can use a hybrid of zeitgeist for usage, relevancy and all usage based recommendation and hook to locate unix tool for searching. Correct me, if I am wrong, but locate does keep indexing files? Right? My proposal does not start and end with datasources. We should also include activity-log-manager in the default install. This application is a privacy and history manager. You can blacklist applications, set zeitgeist in incognito mode, erase history etc. We discussed that this cycle already, and I think that it should really be integrated in gnome-control-center rather than having another capplet. Do you think it's possible? Yes. It is possible. I never worked on gnome-control-center, but it is possible. The first release was created in hurry to check how much options we can provide to the user. The current codebase of activity-log-manager is in python. Does gnome-control-center have it's components/plugs (or whatever they call it) written in python? - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Deeper Zeitgeist integration. Installation of datasources for default applications etc
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this is simply a technical issue. It's first and foremost a design issue. When I have opened a file, then you can know that the file is of some interest to me. The fact that I haven't open a file, doesn't prove that it isn't interesting, but you just can't know. I regard Zeitgeist is a logger that enables applications to learn from my actions, not as a general indexer like Tracker. In order for the dash and lenses to be effective, I think it should primarily display files I've shown some interest in. Similarly, the web lens should only display sites I've actually visited, not intermingle results from Google, since I haven't shown any interested in all those other sites. I was suggesting that when you search for files, then the results from Zeitgeist would be retrieved and shown first as you have actively opened them at some point. The more times you open it, it's importance should increase and the dash should be able to take care of this fact. Files which have never been opened arn't rated on relevancy scale. They are just kind of files which show up because the user wants files which match this name. - Manish Searching for the unknown is completely different from searching your personal history. The thing I like most about the current way the lenses work, is that no results are ever entirely irrelevant, since at some point, I've chosen to use them all. I'm very concerned that mixing these types of searches will introduce many false positives, which will reduce the user experience. Searching for things you've never used is obviously quite useful, and an interesting field that should be treated as a separate topic. Because of its nature, you'll want the ability to define a lot of parameters for such a search, and I'm not convinced that lenses are ready for that. These are some of the parameters that the lens would have to have in order to provide a good search for unused things: * Name (duh) * Time created (from and to) * Time modified (from and to) * Specific folder(s) * How deep to search * Specific servers (nfs, samba, ftp, etc) * Size (to and from) * User or group the file belongs to * File type * Whether or not to search file files content * Source (did you download it from the web, received it in email, bit torrent, etc) These are only the parameters that immediately comes to mind. I'm sure there are many more. But already, this has become a fairly long list, and it's likely that you'd want the ability to store that search. From my perspective, it seems that forcing these types of searches into the dash will both reduce the quality of results from my log, and reduce the ability to search for things I've never used. For that reason, I would recommend that the dash be used only to search for things that are known to be interesting because it's been used, and that a more powerful desktop search engine be developed separately. Obviously, this application would be able to use the same data sources that are used in the dash, but would provide much greater level of detail. Then the dash could use stored searches from that app as a source, because then you have defined an interest, so it's no longer random data, and the results will still be relevant. Does it make sense to you? :) Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
[Desktop12.04-Topic] Deeper Zeitgeist integration. Installation of datasources for default applications etc
Hello, Right now Ubuntu and esp Unity depends on zeitgeist for searches, recommendations etc. Right now only those events are logged by zeitgeist-datahub. It cannot log each and every user event. To increase the logging, there exists datasources which are plugins/addins for applications. For default applications datasources exists for tomboy, gedit, banshee, totem, firefox, empathy (telepathy) and eog. These datasources should also be shipped with Ubuntu. Datasources for thunderbird is in development. Datasources for transmission and shotwell don't exist. It needs to be done. My proposal does not start and end with datasources. We should also include activity-log-manager in the default install. This application is a privacy and history manager. You can blacklist applications, set zeitgeist in incognito mode, erase history etc. If possible, Internet lens can be included by default provided firefox and thunderbird datasources are installed by default. This will help users search for their browsing history and mails too. I will put up an even more detailed plan on the wiki provided this proposal is accepted. In case you don't know who am I. I work mostly on datasources for zeitgeist. Any more clarifications are invited -- Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [ubuntu-in] adding the same packages in a new installation
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Moz list...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am using Natty 64 bit on my computer. I would like to do a new install of Oneiric 64 bit. I do not have good internet connection at home, so I have to go elsewhere to download packages. I usually follow the following procedure for a new installation: 1. save markings including the full state in synaptics from the existing installation 2. install the new OS in a VMbox 3. in the new installation, open synaptics, read the markings from a saved file, generate a download script. 4. go to a fast internet place, download all the packages and then bring them back home, run dpkg to install the downloaded debs When I tried this for Oneiric, there were 6 broken packages, when I tried to remove them and move on, the packages are held (not removed) and synaptic can not generate the download script or download the packages at all. Is there some other way to do this? Looks like your system is not update. I mean the apt index. There is an application named apt-offline which does all your * apt-get update * apt-get upgrade * apt-get install operations. So you can update your apt database, upgrade packages and install new packages using it. You can try it out. Right now the command line version is well suited even though there is a UI (which doesn't work very well). You might want to get apt-offline package the first time how you are getting packages right now. Then you can read the man page to understand. I know I should recommend GUI apps, but I have always used apt-offline and it works pretty well. If you have any problems, please get back. - Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Oneiric Ocelot CD/DVD
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Rigved Rakshit r.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Recently I read a post (http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/09/27/ordering-11-10-cds-is-now-open/) about Loco teams being able to pre-order DVDs from Canonical. How do I order a Oneiric CD/DVD from the Ubuntu India Loco? Rigved. Are you in Bangalore? If yes, then I can provide the ISOs. Anyone who wants Oneiric ISOs can contact me via this list. Sadly I don't have a CD Drive and use USB flash drives to install the OS. - Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Kubuntu 11.04 -11.10
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hey all, Just try avoiding the upgrading process to the newly released 11.10. The main reason for this is 1) Filesystem Hierarchy standards change in the Debian family 2) Clash in the file organization. Kindly go for a fresh install or wait for few weeks to get all the bugs found and fixed (If you really want to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10) Doing a fresh install over the broken partition should fix it. Care has to be taken that Format check-box should not be checked for the partition which is marked as / The installer can find out your /home directory and it won't touch it. - Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: SOC like program for ubuntu
On 06/08/2011 09:52 PM, Gaurav Saxena wrote: Hello Could you guide me some points from where I should start my work and which project could be done. Gaurav, it would be easier for all if you tell your experience in coding and technology so that a perfect project can be found. Examples can be Language - C or C++ or Python or C# Toolkit like Gtk or Qt or any other in which you have experience. Even if you have experience in any windows technology you can tell that so that your level of expertise can be gauged. P.S: Feel free to drop by #ubuntu-in on freenode (It looks like you are in India). I am m4n1sh over there. -- Manish -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unity and Debdelta on Ubuntu 11.04 i386
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: When I installed Ubuntu 11.04 i386 on my desktop recently, the system launched with Ubuntu Classic rather than Unity interface saying my system does not support it. I have a Desktop with AMD Athlon 64bit X2 3600 processor, 2GB RAM, and Nvidia GeForce 6100 graphics card and use a 15 CRT monitor. Is this config not OK for Unity? What is the minimum required hardware config? Any links where this can be found? Try additional drivers under System. It will detect the necessary driver for your card. Those drivers are proprietary, just for your information. Then after installing, restart your system and try to login as usual. Unity should start. In case you are not able to find Additional drivers. Start jockey-gtk from command line. -- Manish Sinha -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Need help regarding reliance ZTE AC 2736 for UBUNTU11.04 for switching between modes(broadband+ highspeed1X)
On 05/11/2011 01:20 AM, rajendra prasad siva wrote: Hi All, I’m using reliance net connect device model:ZTE AC 2736 . **I’m completely a Newbie to LINUX environment. I got connected to Internet very easily using *network connections (mode: broadband+) *UBUNTU10.10* OS .* I was unable to connect with highspeed1X mode in ubuntu10.10. Now I upgraded to ubuntu11.04 now it can connect to net with both modes. But to change from one mode to other as and when required I’m unable to do it within Ubuntu. So for this I depend on Windows.The Debian package reliance provided is not working. the only thing I know about Reliance Net connect is here http://www.idlecool.net/usb-modeswitch-issue-with-reliance-netconnect-zte-mg880-cdma-1x-ubuntu-linu/ idlecool is Shiv Deepak AFAIK. He has documented his experiences -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: GNOME Panel dropped in 11.10
On 05/05/2011 09:22 AM, Bilal Akhtar wrote: Hello there! As you've said, in Ubuntu 11.10 users will have the option to install GNOME 3 + Shell instead of Unity. One thing to note is that GNOME Panel hasn't died (yet), its still being actively developed as a GNOME Shell fallback for systems with GPUs not being able to run GNOME Shell. GNOME Panel 3 will be in the Ubuntu repositories in 11.10. Bilal, I don't think it will be maintained for a long time. Once they find that most of the people have migrated, they might stop maintaining it. AFAIK this is the plan. If you can get this cross-checked. -- Manish -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-in] ubuntu 11.04
On 05/02/2011 07:47 PM, Tanmoy Kumar Thakur wrote: i accidentally change ubuntu 11.04 update manager setting, Which setting? some one tell me in update manager witch box by default check which not (UBUNTU SOFTWARE, OTHER SOFTWARE, UPDATE, AUTHENTICATION) You should install all of them. They are updates. Don't worry -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu Open Week
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote: For everyone's notice. Anyone from the community wanting to take up a session? I was about to take a session when I noticed the date. Sorry, might be shifting house, so not sure if I will have internet by then -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Belkin Wireless adopter does not support Ubuntu?
On 04/13/2011 07:05 PM, Sriranga(78yrsold) wrote: Hi all, my friend wanted to install ubuntu using Live CD. Before doing he wanted to make sure whether Belkin wireless adopter is supported ubuntu how to to connect in the ubuntu for which step by step is requested. At present my friend is using WinxP and wireless adopter is working well -he says. I use Belkin Wireless adapter which has the name written as G Wireless USB Network Adapter It works out of the box using zd1211rw kernel module. More details here http://thoughts.manishsinha.net/post/801947796/belkin-g-wireless-usb-network-adapter -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote: Exactly. Many new comes are not aware of this pleasant discussion here :) Thats one thing I rallied about till it got hijacked :) No offence meant!!! It's a bad sign but can't be helped though. The thread was hijacked at your first reply itself, where OP stated why he is sad about Shipit being stopped and you posted comments. That comment itself had no relevance to the OP post. It contained * Unity v/s GNOME * Rolling release - Debian * Paid software being bad Anyway since you did not answer my questions, I conclude you gave up. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote: On 04/07/2011 02:40 AM, Manish Sinha wrote: On 04/06/2011 07:53 PM, Stereotactic wrote: This debate can *never* be settled; so let it be. True. So don't bring it up again ever if you can't defend. Thats good. Still, it's main flagship was always Gnome and hence there are The most important upstream is still Debian, not GNOME (some-one please correct me if wrong) Thats where the power of choice really is. However, Mark has mentioned somewhere that Ubuntu *might* become one; its an unsettled question. He hasn't mentioned anywhere AFAIK. Instead, Rick Spencer, Desktop Engineering Manager has stated that Ubuntu is not moving to rolling release. That's an abberation. Again your opinion. It isn't opinion, but experience. You voice opinion, not claim opinion. If there is a claim, then it means it is based on some experience. Rolling release can be based on Unstable or Testing versions; Unstable is not so cool as testing really is. But I let that pass. And I mention *again* that rolling release is *not* the point of debate. Ubuntu does have rolling versions. It is called development versions. You keep on updating it. Try it out. Whatever you say, Ubuntu would have never gained so much popularity with rolling release ever. Your opinion. Not opinion, but truth. Linux; it's installer is best in the ecosystem. Period. I am NOT objecting to say Ubuntu One as a service in the cloud, for example. That's an additional module, not really a part of the main OS. Canonical has full right to charge whatever it deems fit in the cloud. Paid software in software centre really is pushing the commerce in user's desktops. So what is wrong in users wanting to buy software? If they want, let them buy. If you don't want to buy, don't buy. In the long run, it would slowly compromise with the ideals of Debian and GNU. How? All I find is talk and no evidence. You know when we talk about Free we mean libre and not gratis. Please head to http://gnu.org for more information A non-techie user (as per your definition) would again be oblivious of fancy terms and conditions; once the critical mass, in terms of users, is reached, there would perhaps be no stopping Canonical to implement it's own (jaundiced) terms. The license is also Terms and conditions for using the software. I hope you know this. Free software license are also as fancy to the end-user as those 20 page long EULA. Have you ever looked how long the full GPLv2 license is? Anyway I had a good laugh. Nice conspiracy theory. It has already moved towards Unity and slowly poisoning it's relation with other companies in the ecosystem refusing to play ball with others. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.. http://goo.gl/NoyJS Perhaps it has *balls* enough but the future is going to stormy for all of them. Reading this same shit for past 5 years. Nothing happened -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] compiling abiword from source
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:31 PM, dd deb...@gmail.com wrote: I need your help. You may either read this mail or visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10647750#post10647750 Well, I've been for some time trying to compile the source of AbiWord (I know the package is available; just trying to do it myself ) . Now, when I run ./configure it gives the following missing packages. sudo apt-get build-dep abiword and then continue -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On 04/07/2011 01:59 PM, Kingsly John wrote: You should probably read things again with an open mind. Just because this is the Ubuntu-IN list doesn't mean we don't have the right to criticize things we don't agree with. I never said you cannot criticize. Even FUD can be disguised to be personal opinion. Did he explain how it would slowly compromise with the ideals of Debian and GNU ? He did not! And while FSF says it is okay to pay for libre software, they don't advocate paying/using propreitary software. Did I claim this? They just don't have problems. They have clearly said that Free means libre to them and not gratis. Ubuntu has allowed installing all kinds of non-libre drivers. So they have always been divergent from the philosophy of the FSF. You taking away the freedom of installing non-libre driver makes a distro more free? Before Squeeze Debian too had non-free bits in their kernel which was fine. FSF's ideals are too tough to follow and be relevant at the same time (at this age) Same goes with Debian. Zach has clearly said that they disagree with RMS's stand on contrib repo. And Canonical have stated their objective of moving towards open core with Unity being a first step, which means more proprietary extensions are to be expected. And from http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/10/17/shuttleworth-admits-it.html Did you read this post 10 times? It is a SHITLOAD of LIES and FUD. Qt was not an open-core model but a dual-licensing model. Even RMS said somewhere that selling exceptions is OK. Mark had praised (in the IRC session) Trolltech for their model in which they provide Qt for FOSS community and sell exceptions and sustain themselves. This was a good way of making sure that Qt development continues. Later I learnt from Kuhn supporters that he has apologized for his mistake. I cannot find his apology anywhere. Canonical, Ltd. refuses to promise to keep the software copylefted and never proprietarize it It doesn't matter if they haven't gone/never go proprietary, the very fact that they want copyright assignments without giving up their rights to ship proprietary/non-libre versions of the software speaks volumes about where they stand in terms of their commitment to libre software. I am not a Canonical employee. Catch one and talk to him on this matter. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On 04/07/2011 02:48 PM, Stereotactic wrote: Thats good. Still, it's main flagship was always Gnome and hence there are The most important upstream is still Debian, not GNOME (some-one please correct me if wrong) There was a talk about how little Canonical has supported Gnome (1% of the code base or whatever); it's all over the net so I wouldn't really bother to prove my point. Did you see it? I don't think you can because no such talk exists. It was a blog post by Dave Neary. If you understand the ecosystem so well, then you should be knowing that it was a blog post and who posted it and when it was posted. Instead you start with There was a talk.. The thread is *NOT* about rolling release. Please. It was, I repeat again, the role of LUG's to spread the word for libre software. Despite it's existence, I barely see any activity; heck, its not even mentioned in the mainstream media. How many of us have made *ANY* effort to work on those lines? Having a website or IRC presence alone does not count, IMHO. This discussion started from the best option is still to move on to the roots; i.e. Debian and I am downloading the rolling release. Where did LUG come in picture? You were talking about Linux Mint and Ubuntu's Update Manager. :) First there is none; then there is development version. Okay :) It isn't calling a rolling release so it does not exist. Using Development versions you can get the feel of rolling release The idea is against proprietary standards. Against the concept of paid software in the base operating system. I *repeat again* that no one objects to Ubuntu One as a cloud service where users *may* pay for whatever or if they are so concerned about syncing issues. Neither does anyone object if there is anything for paid support. No one objects? Are you sure? Paying for GPL software is also not wrong. People do pay. Humble Indie bundle. But it's against the proprietary standards and as I mentioned, stiffling EULA's that are bound to come with it, one day or other. Which proprietary standards? Example please. In the long run, it would slowly compromise with the ideals of Debian and GNU. How? All I find is talk and no evidence. You know when we talk about Free we mean libre and not gratis. Please head to http://gnu.org for more information Again, it has no relevance to you assertions. Please try and understand this. Canonical is profiteering from free code turning on proprietary standards without contribution back to community. You still fail to explain how it would slowly compromise with the ideals of Debian and GNU The license is also Terms and conditions for using the software. I hope you know this. Free software license are also as fancy to the end-user as those 20 page long EULA. Have you ever looked how long the full GPLv2 license is? It's still copyleft. I hate copyright in any manner whatsoever because it's very nature is RESTRICTIVE. Sorry but the length of the licence has nothing to do with it :) At least, it doesn't incapacitate the user! GPL3/4/5 or whatever version may be 1000+ pages or whatever, still it keeps the freedom intact. You know without copyright, copyleft cannot exist? Sheesh! Do you even know what is copyright. It is a right or ownership. You probably hate the license under which those software are distributed. You know that all code under copyleft license is also copyrighted? Ha! Glad you did :) Ignorance is bliss :) Atleast, I made your day :) I just posted about your ignorance related to copyright and copyleft just above. Probably you made your own day. :) It has already moved towards Unity and slowly poisoning it's relation with other companies in the ecosystem refusing to play ball with others. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.. http://goo.gl/NoyJS :) http://imgur.com/kBhRq Hope this helps the attitude of some people :) Atleast I don't go around writing conspiracy theories and blasting off people (unless they spread FUD). Perhaps it has *balls* enough but the future is going to stormy for all of them. Reading this same shit for past 5 years. Nothing happened Reference to above quote; you are unlikely to see anything in the long run/future :) So I'd let that pass again. One sample: I have been hearing since day 1 that next release of Ubuntu will see a mass exodus. It see it for every release. Nothing happens. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On 04/07/2011 07:37 PM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Thats Bad News. The only reason I am on this list and not on Fedora/any other distos's is the fact that when I didn't have a Internet connection and couldn't download, Ubuntu was the only one that would send me a CD. I asked for and received a CD from I think 6.04 onwards and they stopped sending me after 9.04 saying I have received quite a few. Fair enough. But not fair for those in places and countries where Internet download is impossible /too slow and people can't afford to buy the media. When I was in college I was on 128Kbps connection which used to take some 16-18 hrs to download a 700MB ISO. I made full use of it. Now I don't order since I have 2Mbps connection. If anyone is in Bangalore and has poor internet connection, then I can provide them with CDs - any *supported* version. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On 04/06/2011 07:53 PM, Stereotactic wrote: Yes. This is also a pointer towards a larger goal of moving towards an ecosystem. First, they move towards Unity instead of supporting Gnome, then they refuse to contribute much to the code, I think you read just too many blogs than actually investigating. I know a lot of Ubuntu developers who are *actually* contributing upstream. Another thing - Please understand the meaning of upstream first. Ubuntu has more than one upstream and not only GNOME. the roots; i.e. Debian and I am downloading the rolling release. Ubuntu isn't a rolling release and wont be ever. It should never be a rolling release. Rolling release dont work for non-techie user. We geeks find it proud to be using latest versions of everything and continuously updating our system. Non-techies don't. Whatever you say, Ubuntu would have never gained so much popularity with rolling release ever. Paid software in the software centre is a slow pointer towards generation of ecosystem. Make the base OS free and let people pay for the software. Yes. It a pointer towards a good ecosystem. Paying for software is not bad. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with installing RSS Owl
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote: Hi All, I am on Ubuntu 10.10 and need to install RSS Owl. Although it's easy to download and install (as on the web site instructions) but I am looking for a ppa so that any new updates or builds are automatically downloaded whenever I run the update command. This would make the management of the software easier. http://packages.rssowl.org/INSTALL.html -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Is anyone using Ubuntu Tweak
On 03/20/2011 08:45 PM, Stereotactic wrote: Oh, very informative! Thats why Ubuntu developers are not very keen with the idea of anything that improves Ubuntu. One more thing. If you look closely, their only argument against Ubuntu Tweak is lack of security. So be it. People more knowledgeable than me are better placed than me to comment on the same. Not on lack of security but posing a security risk. As Scott Kitterman mentions that it adds a bunch ofthird-party untrusted repos. This is a bad move to have a package in official repo which adds untrusted repos. It is not that Ubutnu devs don't want to improve Ubuntu, but there needs a line to be drawn. Ubuntu Tweak exposes a few features which should be *mostly* hidden from non-technical users. If something goes wrong, then they wont be able to guess what actually happened. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Reminder for today's monthly meeting
Hi everyone, This is a gentle reminder that there is a monthly meeting of Ubuntu India Local Community Date: Monday 14th March ,2011 Time : 9PM Indian Standard Time Location: #ubuntu-in on irc.freenode.net (For newcomers, here is the IRC guide - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IRC/beginners.html ) The meeting agenda is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam/Meetings/20110314/Agenda Waiting for you all. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Membership to ubuntu-in?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: Btw, we are not an approved team either! So, going to the council and telling them that another unapproved team should not exist is weird.. ;p Yeah. AFAIK we lost the approval. BTW I was pointing to the teams which Kingsley showed and not the Delhi and Tamil team. And the Tamil teams have done a lot of translations work, FOSS/Ubuntu awareness during Local events, they recently went for individual LoCo approval and but they werent approved (I forgot why exactly, I believe they dint have their events documented clearly or something). I have heard about them. Since I am not living there, so don't exactly know their contribution. I know more of their l10n work. Nope not that Alan either, maybe you are thinking of Laura Czajkowski ? LoCo council: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lococouncil Yeah. Correct - Czajkowski . I used to see Laura's post on Planet about these. Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe the other teams could get approved before us? ;) We might not be the best, but I was only talking about the 2-3 team which Kingsley pointed out. Atleast we more more activity. :) IMO, we could spend time actually focusing on doing LoCo work rather than other teams. We could, however, contact them and tell them to join us. +1 -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Intro- Abhinav Upadhyay
On 03/10/2011 04:06 PM, Abhinav Upadhyay wrote: Besides this, most recently, I submitted two patches to the Ubuntu community, one of which has been merged as well. I saw one of the patches you showed me. Great! Learning a new language and fixing bugs is amazing. Keep up the good work. Also do attend the monthly group meeting. Next one is scheduled for next week Monday 14th March, 2011 9PM UTC. We would love to get more involved. Have a look at the agenda of the meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam/Meetings/20110314/Agenda Also we would be discussing how to take part in Ubuntu Global Jam in which we all can participate. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Membership to ubuntu-in?
On 03/09/2011 06:53 PM, Kingsly John wrote: Focus your efforts on the Indian Loco alone and keep it active. And if possible see if we can get those other groups disbanded. We barely have the numbers/strength to keep the momentum going for this, splitting up will further dilute the situation. So should we go ahead and get them removed? It can be done. Just want to know if everyone is fine with it. We can ask popey or jcastro and they can get it done directly or through someone. Having 5 different teams with none of them working gives a bad impression. Atleast we can have redirection set. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Membership to ubuntu-in?
On 03/11/2011 12:06 AM, Vishnoo wrote: So should we go ahead and get them removed? It can be done. Just want to know if everyone is fine with it. We can ask popey or jcastro and they can get it done directly or through someone. Neither Allan Pope nor Jorge Castro can help with that. Allan as a CC member could probably *comment* somewhere about it. But he really has no jurisdiction over this.. *Anyone* can form teams. But, why is this issue even being considered for Community Council? I thought that these teams were listed down as LoCo in the list of LoCos. I was asking to get it removed if they were present there. I don't remember the name who is responsible for LoCo- AlanBell or someone else. Yes, creating millions of teams is allowed in Launchpad. Not an issue, but randomly creating and listing them down in the list of LoCos is what I was saying was bad.. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 11.10 to be called Oneiric Ocelot
On 03/07/2011 11:54 PM, Stereotactic wrote: Just wondering whether we should really go ga-ga about the naming conventions. Yes, they do attract the attention but does it take away the focus from real issues of development? Is Ubuntu becoming the next Apple trying to immitate it's ecosystem. It may be a co-incidence that Mac OS names it's releases after animals (specifically big cats). Just a thought. We go gag-ga only for a day or two and then settle down to work. Once in a while this hype is worth it. Consider it as vacations Imitate the Apple ecosystem. OSX names after cats? 10.7 was called Lion, then probably 10.8 will be called Witch and 10.9 as wardrobe :) -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 11.10 to be called Oneiric Ocelot
Hi everyone, Mark just announced on his blog that Ubuntu 11.10 will be called Oneiric Ocelot http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/646 Quoted from his blog -- Oneiric means “dreamy”, and the combination with Ocelot reminds me of the way innovation happens: part daydream, part discipline. Ocelot is a nocturnal wildcat of Central America and South America PS: I guess many people will be facing problems pronouncing Oneiric -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Time to look inwards.
On 03/02/2011 03:13 PM, Ramnarayan.K wrote: @ BOSS Linux - am not sure of the investments and the outputs but another good thing about CDAC and Boss linux is their presence at many IT events. The free CD's people may or may not use but what it does is give publicity not just to linux but to multi language computing. There was a time when they were ahead of the curve, unfortunately as with many Govt and non govt projects its all probably personality and motivation dirven and some other enthu folks must have been posted to their equivalent of kaalapani and thats the end of their before the curve production. I went to bossslinux.in website and found now way how I can contribute or how they sync with Debian or which packages are available or release plan or anything like that. As Gora told, it looks like they too need to learn the Bazaar model of development. @ NRC-FOSS - am wondering if there are any on this list - i knew one person from a lug list and this guy was a pain the the unmentionables and even after joining FOSS has this demeaning condescending attitude that is not good for anything leave alone FOSS. And if he is reflective of NRC_FOSS the i think its better to leave them out of anything. Am not sure what NRC-FOSS is upto but never hear of them much , maybe because they are south india based, so any south indian ubunturos have any idea what they are upto. Let me be harsh on this person. I don't want to, but have to. He is probably the biggest non-anonymous troll I have ever seen in India. He doesn't seem to realize the ground realities and take a practical approach towards spreading FOSS or it's values. His constant flames mailing lists and abuses people to the extent that he has been banned from ##linux-india channel by Raj Mathur. It is because of this person, NRC-FOSS has a very very bad image in India. You don't spread FOSS by attacking people, but screaming at them, but by helping others transition to the new world. What gora says in relevant - how much has CDAC every contributed back. My issue if not with contributing back to Debian. My issue is the cathedral model of development. Probably their workforce is small, then probably they might find it difficult to contribute. First step for contributing back to Debian is to allow people to contribute to BOSS itself. This might take off some load from BOSS developers so that they can send the changes back to Debian. Probably not much. In a discussion with CDAC and one other related government agency at a Delhi LUG annual do (forget the name now) there was this technology being promoted by the government to promoted distributed computing in villages. The problem was not the tech (which was fairly good) but the licenses. The Govt agency has some rule that if the govt spends money on something they cannot give it an open license, they cannot give the code away because its their property? - Their property? Ask them to check the license. It is stealing! -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India LoCo approval renewal
On 02/19/2011 11:38 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: Hi All, As you might have known we need to renew our LoCo approval. I am busy with other life stuff and hence can't take up this task. But I am ready to continue maintaining the servers, mailing lists and all other backend stuff for the LoCo. In order to push the LoCo's reach further (organising events, meetings, evangelism, workshops etc), we need some volunteers. Thanks Aanjhan 1. Nigel Babu 2. Nitesh Mistry 3. Manish [sinha?] 4. Maithraya (who is currently preparing for an exam) * My full name is Manish Sinha. * ~manishsinha on Launchpad * m4n1sh on IRC -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 03:36 PM, stereotactic wrote: Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Event Ubuntu has it categorized as I can see from Update Manager. Right now I can see * Important SecurityUpdates * Other PPA updates * Other Updates -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote: If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04 -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/18/2011 04:46 PM, Marius Nestor wrote: Dear Ubuntu 10.04 LTS users, Kate Stewart announced a few minutes ago, February 18th, the second maintenance release of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) operating system, which incorporates numerous security fixes and updates. The Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS release brings to its dedicated users a lot of security updates and corrections, all with a single goal: to keep Ubuntu 10.04 LTS a stable and reliable Linux distribution! More here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-2-LTS-Is-Available-for-Download-184993.shtml I am not sure if this constitutes spam. I can see 7 mails in my mailbox from this person and the person never comes back for discussions. Just keeps posting self-articles written. Doesn't this constitute blog-spam? Secondly, the link provided does not link to the actual announcement. Bad idea. Original announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-February/000141.html Opinions invited. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/18/2011 09:21 PM, Marius Nestor wrote: Hi people, Yes, I am not a bot, and I am deeply sorry to consider my Ubuntu articles spam. I thought it will be nice to inform users about what's new in the Ubuntu world. I don't have any issues as such. I did not know if it was real of just sent via some RSS feeds. Now that you came and replied, we know that you are for real. I did not call you a bot. I will not post here anymore, if you guys don't want to see Softpedia articles anymore. As I told that is not an issue. Just make sure to include the original source. Increases creditability. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG
On 02/16/2011 02:57 AM, PRABIN DATTA wrote: just want to express the situation. Okay! sorry to everyone. snip Thanks to all you for your suggestions!! But, Waiting for few more suggestion on this. Thank you!! Don't have anything to say much except - creating a product is easier than creating a community. Sitting on the internet and sending messages doesn't create a user group. You have to physically organize meeting and workshops to get people interested. Creating yet another group does not solve the purpose unless there is some concrete reasons. If you want to help out people, why don't you use NIT-Durgapur LUG (if you want proximity). Or ask them to come on ##linux-india on irc.freenode.net I have to say that in India apart from regional LUGs, there is hardly any mailing lists for distro agnostic discussion. Ya! Group shouldn't be bounded to any Distribution like fedora, Ubuntu, etc. I don't find any killer advantage in this. Surely it does help in bringing people closer, but after a certain period, the interest might fade as people who use Distribution X might find that most of the questions are for distro X and Z. Group shouldn't be found to any distro is idealism. Apart from LUGs groups bound to distro are more successful(dont have stats, but personal experience). Yes this is sad truth. Groups independent of distro is good idea, but groups bound to distros are not evil. I have seen many groups come and go, and learnt the hard way - Be a part of bigger group and advance it's growth. Or create Local LUG to promote FOSS at grassroots level. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: Launching own linux OS.
On 02/14/2011 10:57 PM, Umesh Juwatkar wrote: Dear all, this is umesh juwatkar, an microsoft and netforensic certified IT professional from mumbai. I am glad to announce my 1st professional linux os launching. This os will be armed with too many antihacking tools for ethical hackers. This os will be launched in march... Great to see your enthusiasm. Sadly this list is no way related to your announcement. This isn't a list to announce your project -- Manish -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 11.04 Developer Week Announced: February 28th - March 4th
On 02/15/2011 06:48 PM, Marius Nestor wrote: The Ubuntu Developer Week event will take place from February 28th to March 4th, 2011, and will cover several aspects of Ubuntu development, from crash-courses in getting started with working on Ubuntu to more advanced topics. Hello everyone, I hope India LoCo participation in this event. This time me and Nigel are taking up sessions. Manish *** Rocking with Zeitgeist - 1st March, Tuesday 19UTC Nigel ** Getting your fixes into Debian, how to make community happy - 1st March , Tuesday, 20UTC Getting better bug reports - 4th March, Friday, 16UTC Keep yourself free on these days. Bookmark them in your calendar. Additionally if you are an author of a cool FOSS project, you might like to showcase it. This comes under the category of Lightening talks. It's on 4th March, Friday, 20UTC Please contact Nigel (nigelb) or me(m4n1sh) if you want to showcase your project. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Askubuntu moderators election. Cast your vote
Hi everyone, As you know askubuntu.com which is a StackExchange based QA for Ubuntu has become immensely famous. To make it a true community QA forum, there is a moderator elections starting in a few hours. The elections is no in nomination phase and enters voting phase in a few hours. This voting closes in 8 days. You can see the nominations at http://askubuntu.com/election There are 6 nominations for 3 moderator posts. Please don't forget to cast your vote if you are on askubuntu.com and participate in it. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] brainstorm.ubuntu.com ideas - autogenerated solutions
On 02/05/2011 11:14 AM, James Sebastian wrote: But this news item which led me to brainstorm says top 10 ideas will be looked and (if possible) implemented in every quarter. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/213618/top_10_ubuntu_ideas_offer_hint_at_whats_to_come.html So that is a good news to throw ideas and get it shaped in brainstorm. The original post is here by CTO Matt Zimmerman http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/11/03/weathering-the-ubuntu-brainstorm/ I read the post, but not very much sure about it. Last when I checked the ideas, many of the ideas needs lot of manpower and thorough testing which makes it tough to be implemented ASAP. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] brainstorm.ubuntu.com ideas - autogenerated solutions
On 02/04/2011 03:31 PM, James Sebastian wrote: If any one works closely with brainstorm, would you please explain what does this solution really means? They are auto generated solutions. The person in charge of the idea did not propose a solution. By the way brainstorm has become a mess. The ideas are just too many and the number of people to implement are very less. The developer/user ratio in Ubuntu is pretty less. I have no concrete census to back my claim, but I feel this is one the least of all the distros I know. Price to be paid for popularity. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Free CDs
On 02/04/2011 05:07 PM, Abhijit Navale wrote: Hello. I am giving seminar on FOSS in front of students, my teachers and en external examiner. I would like to have a bunch of Ubuntu CDs to distribute freely after my seminar to all. Some will be reserved for teachers. So I wanted to know that how much shold I order so that they approve my free buik cd requests? #Ubuntu-ops directed me here to ask this question. On My own I can only afford to burn 2 cds. You can order by shipit but remember that if the demand is pretty big, then there can be problems with customs. Long back in 2007 I was in college and ordered the 35 CD pack, it was thoroughly inspected by customs as seen from the packaging. If there are too many CDs then probably you can be called in customs office to pay for the import duties. I never had such experience, but heard from people -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Looking for a RSS Reader. Anyone interested in development?
On 02/04/2011 06:58 PM, Abhishek Puri wrote: Hi All! I am looking for a good RSS reader on Linux. RSS Owl is okay but I am not happy about it's UI. I use Google Reader as a web based solution but I prefer to have my data offline. Have you tried liferea? I have some ideas about the development; although I can't code. I would be happy to share them through this list. Share the mock-up please. Can I raise this issue in the forthcoming meeting on IRC? I think you missed the IRC meeting. If you want to discuss something in the meeting. Add it to the topics. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam/Agenda -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Free CDs
On 02/04/2011 10:35 PM, Rohan Garg wrote: You *are* asked to pay import duties, yes. But you just need to point out that the cost of the CD's is 0, and hence no import duty is applicable. We ordered some 35 CDs but were not asked. Probably the shipping company handled those convincing work. BTW the cost of CDs might be zero, any shipment needs to have it's cost declared. If you read the back of any shipit CD package, the value is declared. If the total increases, then it might become a problem. Another solution, two people order and get it delivered at different addresses -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Logs of Ubuntu Kernel QA with Pete Graner (Kernel Manager)
Hi everyone, I know many of you might have missed this, but Jono Bacon along with Pete Graner had a Kernel QA. Pete works for Ubuntu Kernel Team. Since the log is not so readable, as per my previous attempts, I pressed the whole thing into a human readable content. Please spread the content. The original log is http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/04/%23ubuntu-classroom.html and my version is http://ubuntutalk.tumblr.com/post/3108070812/ubuntu-kernel-q-a-with-pete-graner-kernel-engineering If anyone to help me with sharing information on that tumbelog please contact me. Feel free to share it. I do not own the copyrights so cannot specify the license. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Member Introduction
On 01/30/2011 09:40 AM, Ponkumaran Annadurai wrote: Hello Manish, Thanks for your guidelines Sir. Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:17:47 +0530 From: Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net mailto:m...@manishsinha.net To: ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Member Introduction Message-ID: 4d406c53.6000...@manishsinha.net mailto:4d406c53.6000...@manishsinha.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed snip You should also learn how to socialize in FOSS community as it also helps a lot. The FOSS community has it's own rules. Like how to ask questions. The good mailing list etiquettes. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html http://www.samba.org/samba/ml-etiquette.html I would be more than ready for helping and all I expect back is adherence to rules to make this list a better place. Did you read these two links before posting thanks? The first link clearly tells that no top-posting. Now please read the Ubuntu-in mailing list guidelines as sent my Aanjhan http://ubuntu-in.info/wiki/MailingList_Guidelines -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Correction in mentioning linux (Please mention it as gnu/linux)
On 01/27/2011 12:09 PM, Ganesan Venkata Subramanian wrote: Hi All I think i should make a statement here. What makes an operating system. The kernel as well as its utilities. Correct me if i am wrong. while saying linux we are talking of only the kernel. Then where is the mention of the utilities which make up the os. It is like mentioning the car engine which represents only a part of the car. My phone has a ARM processor, the screen made by some other manufacturer, battery by Sony(probably), casing from some other company but at the end of the day I call it an HTC phone. That is how I call it even though it runs a ton of GNU tools below and has Linux as the kernel. I don't call it Linux/GNU/Dalvik/HTC I do not protest that you should not call this GNU/Linux, what I am saying is that this discussion has been since time immemorial and hasn't yield any result till date. It is just a topic on which you keep on discussing just like we are doing right now. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Correction in mentioning linux (Please mention it as gnu/linux)
On 01/27/2011 09:24 PM, Nandan Vaidya wrote: Actually as far as I know Android does not use any of the GNU tools Not cent percent sure, but I did read it somewhere. So no Android Dalvik/GNU/Linux at least :) Even I am not sure. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Libre Office 3.3.0 available for download
On 01/27/2011 07:48 PM, Ramnarayan.K wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy kja...@gmail.com wrote: More info and step-by-step instructions at: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-from.html on this page it says Important notice: to install LibreOffice you must remove OpenOffice so you cannot have both in the same time! any idea why The packaging is such that it conflicts with the similar openoffice packages. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Member Introduction
On 01/26/2011 02:42 PM, Ponkumaran Annadurai wrote: Hello Ubuntu Users, I am Ponkumaran from chennai. I am a new member to this community, also I am new to Ubuntu. I like linux in the way that it is open source and learning it is fun. Since Ubuntu is the one which gave me an introduction to Linux, I want know more about it. This is the reason which brought me here. Hope participating in this community will help me get to know things about linux. Lets learn. Hi Ponkumaran, If you want to learn how to use Ubuntu from a non-technical point of view, I would recommend reading Ubuntu Manual. I know it hasn't been updated for the latest release, but still it isn't that Ubuntu has completely changed in one release. You can buy the hard copy book or download the soft copy of the book for free http://ubuntu-manual.org/ -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Member Introduction
On 01/26/2011 03:51 PM, Ponkumaran Annadurai wrote: Hi Manish Nitesh, Its happy to see you helping me. I am wishing you to continue your support through out my learning. Moreover in what way can I be always active in this community? Also I want to know about the technical aspects of Ubuntu, since I am a student of Computer Science. We are always here to help out people. If you have have any problems, google it (called helping yourself) and if not able to find, shoot a mail on this list. You might be inquisitive to know the inner workings of Ubuntu or Linux in general. You might want to start learning how the whole packaging thing works. I don't mean you should start learning how to package tomorrow, but slowly and slowly learn it. Learn what is repositories, packages, source packages, binary packages, gpg signing of packages, dpkg, apt. Go one by one in this list. You should also learn how to socialize in FOSS community as it also helps a lot. The FOSS community has it's own rules. Like how to ask questions. The good mailing list etiquettes. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html http://www.samba.org/samba/ml-etiquette.html You can also learn how to use IRC. Learn how to ask questions like Don't ask to ask questions. People usually say Can I ask one question. That is not the way. Enter the channel, ask the question and wait for someone to answer. Have patience. As a goodwill stay in the channel and try to help someone else. This is how everyone benefits. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Correction in mentioning linux (Please mention it as gnu/linux)
On 01/26/2011 06:52 PM, Ganesan Venkata Subramanian wrote: Hello All It is observed in the ML that every body is using the term LINUX instead of GNU/LINUX. Its should be corrected because GNU represents the GNU utils running over the LINUX Kernel. So we should attribute our credit to both the parts which makes such a beautiful OS. Hope this will be followed. This has always been a huge debate. I think I should start referring it as GNU/X/Compiz/Gnome/Linux instead of Linux. This old age discussion is fruitless. There are more important things to be done than debating what term to use. Everyone who cares already knows that Linux contains a lot of GNU software. Those who don't care, will well never care. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: Changing a pixel
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:04 AM, David Hutto smokefl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm at a loss for search terms on this, but is there a Linux command to change a particular pixel on a screen? You can ask on ubuntu-users which is a general list for people to ask questions. Additionally you can also ask your question on askubuntu.com This list is for discussion related to Quality Assurance for Ubuntu -- The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order. ..snip An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product. Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static cling? Please resist from putting all these quotes and disclaimers. I also access my mails from phone for which I have to pay depending on the data transfer. These quotes add no real value and a lot of people pay for this too. I think many more people are also in the same situation -- Manish -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: [ubuntu-in] Introduction
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fellow ubuntuers , I am Rohit. I have been into Ubuntu for past two years and have been contributing over the past six months. I was a part of bug-squad, translations and contributing to projects like ubuntu-tour and manual. Good to find another contributer With the Institute disallowing ssh tunneling, I am not able to push any code. Just zip your code branch to someone else whom your know and they will push it for you. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Anindya Sanyal anindyasany...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, The ubuntu 10.10 version's softwere manager didn't work. Whats the solution? Software Manager? I hope you meant software center? Can you please be a bit more informative? What happens when you say does not work? It crashes? Does not start? Does not install software? P.S.: Please learn how to post properly on a list. Please learn to be precise with the problems and tell how to reproduce them. Please don't hit Reply to digest mails. Trim excess quotes. Please reply below the quoted paragraph like in this reply. More on mailing list guidelines http://wiki.exim.org/MailingListEtiquette -- Manish -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: [ubuntu-in] power management comment
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:13 PM, nikhil n nikhile...@gmail.com wrote: I use ubuntu 10.04. It is installed inside windows xp. Today, I used the ubuntu software centre to download and install wine. Upon restarting, I am unable to Log in. I have a message says that Install problem... The configuration defaults for gnome power managment have not been installed correctly. contact your computer administrator. A bit more information is needed. * When does the error come up? * During the boot process or at the login prompt? * Do you get the GUI? ps... i am just a lay user with not much of technical knowledge Well, I consider every user to be a layman without technical knowledge unless I know them personally. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Developer Day, Bangalore 27th Jan, 2011
Hi, It is on a weekday? 27th January is Thursday! BTW timings are not specified. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Off Topic: Need help with LAN card Issue
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, nagendra prasad nagendra802...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, I know this is an off topic question, but I need to solve it. So, the issue is I have a laptop which I use to download stuff. The issue is when sometimes the power goes the LAN card automatically disables. And when the power comes back I manually have to again enable it. I am using XP. I have tried Googleing it but not able to find a solution. If anyone knows a tool or a setting I have to change or make please tell me. Goto Control Panel and search for LAN/Network icon. Many Dell laptops have this *feature* of disabling LAN ports when laptop is running on battery. I know weird. Next time, please send your mail to a proper list to get replies. How is this related to Ubuntu? Or PHP? or PHP-Windows? Even warez sites would be better than asking in a Linux or Programming mailing list for such questions -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Member Introduction
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:10 PM, James Sebastian james.sebast...@gmail.com wrote: I was hunting the archives for a paid support in Delhi to identify and setup a data card (to connect to internet) on an ubuntu installation on a laptop. The only thing I could stumble upon was a chain discussion on the topic without any concrete answers. So I would like to know if there is some one in delhi who can help this person to get a data card setup properly. She is a senior doctor and enthused by Ubuntu while at Manali, but struggling to keep that enthusiasm while in Delhi. I think there are many people on this list who might help her out. They can charge the money which she is ready to pay for the paid support. I know only two people on this list who are in NCR(even though I hardly see their mail on this list) 1. Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) 2. Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which linux distribution is the most user friendly ?
On 11/25/2010 03:17 PM, Ashish! wrote: hi guys, Which linux distribution is the most user friendly ? please vote for your favourite linux distribution, found @ the following site http://divyajyotservices.com/djs/index.php Sending this mail on an Ubuntu list you should get that the answer would be Ubuntu. Same with Fedora and openSUSE. :) I thought that link could be of a poll like surverymonkey or polldaddy etc but came out to be a company's. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Which linux distribution is the most user friendly ?
On 11/26/2010 12:52 AM, Mallikarjun wrote: By looking at the link you should have figured it out. I was joking, Take it with a pinch of sarcasm -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] The new website is under contruction
On 11/11/2010 12:56 PM, Nitesh Mistry wrote: 1. Do we have photos of ubuntu event held in India. I remember Nigel had posted some photos taken at a get-together. We can have one or two slides showing such events. Here are the set of pics for July's Ubuntu Hour meet at Richmond Road http://www.flickr.com/photos/nigelbabu/sets/72157624497585599/with/4846015027/ -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[Bug 672182] Re: jockey-gtk shows Untitled Window when searching for drivers
** Also affects: jockey (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- jockey-gtk shows Untitled Window when searching for drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/672182 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Need admin for new twitter
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Lisandro Vaccaro lisandro.vacc...@gmail.com wrote: I need an admin for our new Twitter. It's growing really fast but I cannot take care of it. It's this one http://twitter.com/#!/Ubuntu_OS Hi Lisandro, I can take care of this twitter account if you want. I can spare some time everyday for this, You can also tweet alongside if you allow me to tweet through this account. Let me know if you are interested. -- Manish -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-in] Attacks on Linux Servers
On 09/18/2010 05:14 PM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Those that are in the IT field managing Servers and Networking, Admin, Security : Would you agree on this: Linux is a larger target for viruses and malware, as it dominates the server industry, and that's where the important data and real meat of attacks are attempted. Last when I heard Security through obscurity was a deprecated concept. So getting popular and being a niche market doesn't make much sense. The real thing is how much secure model it implements for security and secondly is the server badly configured. In this case nothing helps. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: [Linux-discussion] The dangers of Open Core and Canonical's admission
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:39 AM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: Another nice article on open-core: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Guest-commentary-Open-Core-is-over-1097073.html Forwarded message___ From: Indranil Das Gupta indr...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:24 PM Subject: [Linux-discussion] The dangers of Open Core and Canonical's admission To: linux-discuss...@ilug-cal.info Hi all, For all those that go ga-ga over Ubuntu, which includes government departments promoting a single GNU/Linux Distro policy based on Ubuntu, here is perhaps a lesson and cautionary tale! Unfortunately it is not a tale, its entirely true http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/10/17/shuttleworth-admits-it.html I read the whole thing 10 times and still got no reference to Ubuntu apart from UbuntuOne which in which community is not involved. So next time Nokia does something wrong, then Qt will be tagged For all those that go ga-ga over Qt. Even though Canonical funds Ubuntu and owns the trademark, Ubuntu is more than just a Canonical project. I am not sure how many people have contributed to it in their free time. The whole blog post is about how Canonical handles copyright assignments and Ubuntu community was not involved in drafting this policy. I am still wondering how Ubuntu came into picture? Just because Canonical is a sponsor doesnt cut the argument. Even Microsoft is a sponsor of Apache Foundation. Was this a linkbait? -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] All hands on the deck!
Hi, I just want to know if we are going to use some CMS or Wordpress or can we go with a custom lightweight Django application? I will show a few samples when I get time tomorrow. BTW I think we can use the marketing material available at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/spreadubuntu_art/files which is made by Thorsten Wilms. Additionally, OMG! Ubuntu! people have released their branding assets at http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ohso_brand_assets.zip which we can use for artwork instead of developing ours from scratch. We will add a link to their website in the Credits/Thanks section. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: Dump Google?
On Sunday 12 September 2010 12:49 AM, Jordan wrote: Google does store user's information, such as I.P. addresses and the searches (yes, the I.P. address goes away after 8 months) and they transmit a crazy amount information back to the server (autocomplete for instance). Well IP address logging isn't something new. All websites do it. Even blogs! If you get a hosting with cPanel, the IP address logger is installed by default. You wont be even knowing that your hosting is logging the IP of people who are coming to your domain Secondly, Google makes money by collecting information. They dont charge us. I would be really keen to know how they would make money without collecting information and also giving away for free. BTW I would surely object if google collects some private information. IP address is not a private information nor is User-agent string Or one thing we could do is still provide Google, but add a more private search engine to give the user's that option (I mentioned Startpage above). I'm sure they would love to help improve open source. One option should be there. Google for day-to-day people who care more about their search results and dont care about google's collection of data. One private engine for purists. And a few more for more flexibility. Everyone should have something for them in the list of search engines/ Again, only a suggestion...I'm trying to make Ubuntu better as much as the next guy. Sorry if I made anyone angry. No. It didnt. Everyone is voicing their opinion. I don't think there is something to get angry. -- Manish -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Global Jam!
On Monday 16 August 2010 12:05 AM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy wrote: Any such initiatives happening in Bombay? I am not a programmer, so cannot contribute much in that space. But would love to be a part of the community to contribute. You don't need to be a programmer to be a part of Global Jam. You can do documentation, testing, translations(to your mother-tongue) and many other things. Not everything needs programming skills. More details on te Ubuntu Wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Global Jam!
On Sunday 15 August 2010 10:12 PM, Satish Sood wrote: Daer Mr. Babu, The event is scheduled to be at Mohali (Near Chandigarh) on 25 Sep 2010. Regards, Satish Col SC Sood(Retd) Okay! Let's clarify it. Ubuntu GLobal Jam can be held at many places. So now we have two Ubuntu Global Jam. One in Bangalore and the other in Mohali. So we should call them Bangalore Ubuntu Global Jam AND Mohali Ubuntu Global Jam Hope this clears the confusion which might have aroused esp for those on the list who are new to Ubuntu. Too bad, I won't be able to attend the Banglore one. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: Emergent: Oracle's behavior re Java
To be honest, I don't think Ubuntu has to worry about this. Irrespective of whether Oracle's actions are justified or not, the underlying reason why they are going after Google is that the version of Java that runs on Android is very bastardised, is incompatible with any Java edition (JME, JSE or JEE) and as a result fragments the platform. Care to explain basterised? The language is the same and the runtime is different. Heck! Google has never claimed that the instruction set is compatible. It is different and so you *can* say that it is not JRE and the instruction set Sun/Oracle JavaRE uses. So call DVM as a different runtime and Java code are compiled so that it is targetted for DVM. If Google had developed a JME implementation same as what Nokia, Motorola et al have done for years, Oracle would have said nothing. So I don't think any open source implementation of the JVM is at risk, as they all implement a JDK and JVM that are compatible with Sun's: you can run code built with GCJ or OpenJDK on the Sun JVM and vice versa. This is not true of Dalvik. I think you know the news that they failed to reach to an agreement to License the micro edition after which Google went ahead and implemented their own VM, whose instruction set is different from JVM. Yeah. its true that patent grant is for GPL implementations for desktop based and not mobile based VM. At the end of the day, love them or hate them, Oracle are no fools: they will go after who they think is harming their business. Proprietary and open source implementations of the JVM that follow the specs and are compatible with the Sun JVM are good for Oracle because they help spread Java. Android's implementation is bad for Oracle because it fragments the Java mobile market. They are going after Google as they think they can make a huge amount of money since Google has deep pockets. If Google bends, then the patent deals would be a huge monetization for Oracle. As I said, DVM is not JVM and has different instruction set. Oracle needs to prove that their patents are being infringed in DVM. I don't get about fragmentation. The dev end code is same, the VM is different. The dev cares more about the code *if* he knows that it's write-once-run-anywhere. In fact, I was surprised that Sun didn't start that action when Google originally came up with Dalvik, the same way they sued Microsoft all those years ago when they tried to extend Java 1.0. I suppose Sun realised at the time that they didn't have the financial strength for an expensive lawsuit against Google, while Oracle certainly do. As I heard somewhere that Sun was never in patent suits when compared to other companiess. This is also my 2 cents. -- Manish -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-in] install MS office 2007
On Thursday 05 August 2010 06:40 PM, ANKUR AGGARWAL wrote: well dude. u cant install ms office in ubuntu. forget abt it u can neva do that Well neva[never] is a strong word. I have seen people using Word 2007 flawlessly. The catch is that the person was using Crossover on Debian and it worked like a charm. Anyway, I cannot disclose the name of the person. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Apache2 error 98 : make_sock: Unable to connect to port 0.0.0.0:80
On Saturday 31 July 2010 11:56 PM, Rajat Khanduja wrote: I've tried to follow a variety of steps from a few things that I found on the net. Could someone please tell me how I can get it running I get the error mentioned in subject whenever I try to start Apache2. It was working file sometime ago, but recently I started facing this trouble. I've tried using ps -e |grep httpd and ps -e| grep apache but there was no result. Actually this is happening because some other process has bound port 80 on which Apache again tries bind, but fails to do so. To find out which process has bound port 80, do lsof -i :80 which will give you back something like COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME python 5748 manish4u IPv4 3932411 0t0 TCP localhost:80 (LISTEN) This output I got since I am using Django webserver (which is just an example) Now since you have a the PID of the process, you may want to terminate it. Use kill pid like for the last example use kill 5748 And still the process is not killing, you might want to send the KILL signal instead of TERM signal, but remember, this *can* corrupt the application which is currently bound to the port. Sending the KILL signal is by kill -9 pid Your ps -e |grep httpd and ps -e| grep apache didnt work since apache was not started, some other process was bound to the port. This ps might work if apache failed to stop properly or something like that. Many of the things I told were from how you explained your problem. If you have more details, do post it here. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Wiki Page creation
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Rajat Khanduja rajatkhanduj...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you for your quick reply, but I succeeded in figuring out how to make a page. And as you suggested, I used others' page as a guide. Actually the major problem that I faced was this : With my Launchpad ID's Timezone set to Asia/Kolkata, I encountered some error while logging in and hence I could not edit other's pages at first. Once I change my timezone back to UTC it worked normally. Sorry for the late reply, but as I heard settings timezone to Asia/Kolkata and then getting prevented to login was an old bug. I didn't know it still exists. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu: meritocracy not democracy (article)
Read it. Couldn't find anything to start a flamewar :P Agree with the article. Very well written and hardly found any point on which I can start a proper discussion. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: something about install g++－4.3
On 5/3/2010 10:34 AM, Onkar Shinde wrote: If you have 'Alternate CD' you can use it as repository. g++ is available on the alternate CD. Onkar, IIRC the build-essential package is present even on regular desktop ISO. -- Manish Sinha -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-in] [FYI] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Updates
On 5/1/2010 10:16 AM, Nandan Marathe wrote: The ubuntu india repository is often offline, unreliable etc... I generally use the software sources to choose the fastest server (Using the other ... option) Hope am not sounding arrogant, but Indian mirror gives pretty slow speeds. I always go back to main server for updating. -- Manish Sinha -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: something about install g++－4.3
Long back I had written a tutorial for this http://ubuntu-in.info/wiki/Installing_Softwares_without_Internet_Connection_using_APTonCD -- Manish Sinha -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-in] Companies with Ubuntu
On 4/27/2010 6:43 PM, lakshmanan wrote: Please dont consider this as spam. I thought I could help myself in this but all my tries failed. That is why I sought our India group for help. I am completely mad and crazy with ubuntu. I want to work in ubuntu even at my work. Even I am passionate about Ubuntu, but have to accept the harsh truth that most companies use Windows. Anyway I have managed with it. Still I have installed cygwin and nearly all the apps which I use on Ubuntu/Linux on windows right from Firefox, Pidgin, LyX, Launchy etc. These give me some sort of consolation. I belong to ubuntu-java-web category of developers. That was the shortest way i could describe my profile :) Means a java web develop who wants to work on Ubuntu. Right? I am B.E fresher (passing out this may 2010) from chennai.I dont want to work using windows even at my work. since this ubuntu india group, I thought I can ask you guys the set of software companies in chennai or india (apart from google, IBM and other big wig companies) which uses ubuntu in its core development operations.If you know any, name them please. Do any startups use ubuntu as their operatings system in work ? I think if you are so passionate. Why not be a part of Ubuntu development? It can start with small contributions and later expand. -- Manish Sinha -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT: gmail sms recovery (was leina yar)
On 4/25/2010 11:43 AM, chaitanya ambaselkar wrote: @Ram, I know IP can be spoofed and the cracker may have done that but it seems it is a dynamically assigned IP which is owned by Telekom Malaysia Berhad. And a mobile device was used. And it was around 4:30 pm IST on 23rd April that account was cracked and within minutes I had changed the password as well since then I have not seen any spams being sent again. I wanted to contact the ISP on their abuse address but have no idea if this has any legality with it. Have avoided but will take some advises from some others who have knowledge about cyber laws as well. Even though the IP address is dynamic, the ISP always keeps a track of which IP address is assigned to which customer. If you submit an abuse complaint, then probably they *may* help. Don't expect much out of it since IP address ca be spoofed and an innocent person can be caught. Chaitanya, also please avoid top-posting. Mallikarjun has already requested this before https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/2010-April/007754.html -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT: gmail sms recovery (was leina yar)
On 4/24/2010 11:06 AM, Ramnarayan.K wrote: On second thoughts had some more questions 1. What will google do with the mobile phone numbers (general question) Whatever they do, they won't spam us like those private banks, insurance companies etc. The benefit you get is password recovery. more important question 2. Won't the folks cracking an account also start by changing the recovery information I don't think you can change the mobile sms recovery number you set. I havn't tried it out yet, but believe that google should implement it the way * You try to remove your mobile number * A sms is sent to this number giving an un-subscribe code * You have to go to the remove sms recovery page and enter this code. I will check out whether this is the implementation or not. -- Manish Sinha -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] leina yar
On 4/23/2010 9:29 PM, chaitanya ambaselkar wrote: I did find out from the sent folders that spams were sent to many other addresses in the contacts. Searched a bit and found out that there are speculations about google's password system being cracked. There are some other people around who have been victims like me. One person from canada had his account used to send spams to more than 500 of his contacts. I was not that unfortunate. Only around 15 spams were sent. I have changed the password but I am still bit wary of using the account. If the same persists with the account I would like administrators to delete them. And I completely understand your reactions myself being a system administrator and moderator on certain forums of Linux. Chaitanya, You can use Google accounts SMS password recovery. This is something nice since I find mobile to be more secure than password. Someone can install a key logger and steal your password and even the secondary email address. For account recovery via sms, the cracker has to get hold of your mobile physically which makes this SMS recovery more reliable. http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=152124 -- Manish Sinha -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Need to download this for offline use, any idea how
On Sunday 18 April 2010 02:48 PM, Ramnarayan.K wrote: some jiggling around and it works, i also have a firefox add on called download helper which when there is an active video helps to download it Also try Unplug ( a firefox addon ) -- Manish Sinha -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] GTK+ RadioButton Signal Handler issue
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Anil Vishnoi vishnoia...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, Ignore this mail.I got the bug.My bad!! So please share the root of problem and the solution you got. Reason: Mailing lists mails are publicly archived and are searchable by search engines. Your solution can save the time of some poor soul who is facing this issue -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[Bug 539458] Re: Phonon (probably phonon) switches audio device when trying to play music from ALC888 to PulseAudio
** Also affects: phonon via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197644 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Phonon (probably phonon) switches audio device when trying to play music from ALC888 to PulseAudio https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/539458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 537809] Re: amorok crashes when opening script manager
** Also affects: amarok via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225557 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- amorok crashes when opening script manager https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/537809 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to amarok in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520614] Re: KDE 4.4.00 (KDE 4.4.0) crashes when i select as wallpaper type Globo
** Also affects: kdeplasma-addons via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226545 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- KDE 4.4.00 (KDE 4.4.0) crashes when i select as wallpaper type Globo https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520614 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeplasma-addons in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 513666] Re: screen not locked on suspend or hibernate (screen saver not activated)
** Also affects: kdebase via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224517 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- screen not locked on suspend or hibernate (screen saver not activated) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/513666 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 510018] Re: Cannot delete file with bad filename
** Also affects: kdebase via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165044 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Cannot delete file with bad filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/510018 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 505313] Re: koffice 2.x for lucid (main)
** Also affects: koffice via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217239 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- koffice 2.x for lucid (main) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/505313 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to koffice in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
