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Subject: Application of UIFEs
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:28:19 +0100
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On 5 October 2012 12:42, John Lea john@canonical.com wrote:
On 05/10/12 12:11, Matthew East wrote:
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Subject: Application of UIFEs
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:28:19 +0100
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Hi,
On 4 May 2012 07:19, Matthew East m...@mdke.org wrote:
We will export the translations on Monday.
Just to confirm that I have just uploaded ubuntu-docs 12.04.5 which
has an updated export of translations from today. These should be
picked up in the first language pack update on 11 May
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- so great work there and thanks for all the efforts.
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have the new ubuntu-docs built, and I am still waiting for the
LP export to finish, we are good here.
Good news! Thanks to everyone involved.
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by the date to the left.
I believe that Jeremy has taken care of the upload, with seb128's
help, to cover up my oversight, but we are not sure whether this was
in time for the language pack export.
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is enabled between the two locations, so
any translations done in the ubuntu location will filter through here,
the latter location will generally be more up to date, and there are
currently just a few strings there which are not yet found at the
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Hi,
On 26 March 2012 14:14, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Al 26/03/12 14:46, En/na Matthew East ha escrit:
However, I've just realized that there is indeed a need to leave the
setting as it is now: you merge from GNOME docs, so you do need to
import PO files in the bzr
and imports are recommended over manual exports and imports.
Yes, I was aware of it, but I don't really see any benefit in using it
over and above a simple export of po files from Launchpad. What are
the reasons why a branch export is recommended over a manual export?
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On 3 April 2012 07:57, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Al 03/04/12 08:49, En/na Matthew East ha escrit:
On 26 March 2012 11:09, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
You're probably aware of the feature, but you can also alternatively
export translations to a separate
and complex
job but some teams have translated it in the past so I think that it's
worth having translations enabled.
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enable translation
sharing on Launchpad between the package location and the upstream
location.
But if translators want us to make changes, or if there are things we
can do to make their job easier, please let us know so that we can try
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On 26 March 2012 13:40, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Al 26/03/12 14:20, En/na Matthew East ha escrit:
On 26 March 2012 11:09, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Another thing I've noticed is that as translation is done in Launchpad,
you don't need to choose
generation.
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of any validation errors that remain by this weekend.
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course (coinciding with the language
pack updates). We may make some further changes as problems are found
with the released documentation.
Thanks for your great work translating Ubuntu Documentation and keep going!
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. to
freeze it prior to the release and allow translations to happen
thereafter.
That's also simpler from an administrative point of view, rather than
having different rules applicable to different types of documentation.
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templates were waiting for
approval in the import queue. I have now approved them and hopefully
this will be working soon.
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to break the freeze at this
stage with time left to translate the new strings if upstream
translations don't exist.
Any translator comments?
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On 20 September 2011 12:09, Anders Jenbo and...@jenbo.dk wrote:
Den 20-09-2011 08:02, Matthew East skrev:
On 19 September 2011 18:14, Jeremy Bichajbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I'd like to break the documentation freeze to add the Desktop Sharing
pages from GNOME. This will show when users click
://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/oneiric/+translations
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to the documentation in the period
leading up to that date. A very significant number of strings are
likely to remain unchanged, but some may not.
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be possible for translation
sharing to be done automatically using the new features in Launchpad,
but I hadn't yet taken a look at the serverguide to ensure that it is
working currently.
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that there is this extra bit of work required (i.e. uploading
ubuntu-docs), I would tend to keep these as part of the non-langpack
translations - I think that an earlier deadline is justified to give
the extra time to prepare and upload the ubuntu-docs package.
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(Gnome) doesn't use
Launchpad for translation.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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focus on the solution.
Well, this would obviously help some people and no one who maintains a
translated site has spoken up and said that doing this would cause
them a problem so let's do this. I'll have a poke around and see what
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On 3 May 2011 12:50, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
El dt 03 de 05 de 2011 a les 10:43 +0100, en/na Matthew East va
escriure:
And once more, now that the server guide will only be available online
and on PDF, I'd like to bring up the subject of enabling translations
On 19 April 2011 07:12, Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 19 April 2011 07:08, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
However, in order to enable the new 'gnome-help' and 'user guide' ones,
their POT templates need to be generated during the source package
build, which does
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to be the case.
Could someone from the docs team investigate this?
I will look into this - I assumed that this would be done
automatically as part of the Gnome build process.
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That also depends upon how we deal with the other issues that have
been raised in this thread.
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should work on for the next cycle.
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it is released afterwards.
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the process easier for local teams.
If other people, particularly those working on local websites, have
different views, I'm very open to hearing them.
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it on the Fridge
to give more visibility. Once you announce the new freeze, I can take
care of forwarding it there.
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ensure that the person sending the
translation is a member of the relevant Ubuntu translation team for
the particular language.
It's too late for Lucid as the last ubuntu-docs upload has already
been done, but it can be added to the next update that is done of
ubuntu-docs.
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Hi,
Just fyi, even though in theory the NonLangPackTranslations deadline
has now passed, I'm planning to export these from Launchpad at some
time on Saturday morning (European time), so the cut off time for
translations on the ubuntu-docs package is until then.
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there specific Ubuntu strings that will remain untranslated
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Hi,
2010/4/7 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
El dc 07 de 04 de 2010 a les 09:02 +0100, en/na Matthew East va
1. Fix the broken Ubuntu One and Evolution menu entries now and import
the pot file asap, but *not* add the new material about Ubuntu Music
Store
2. Make an upload prior
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Subject: Proposed Documentation String Freeze break - Ubuntu One, Icons
To: Ubuntu Doc ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com
Hi,
I've noticed that Ubuntu One can no longer be found in the
Applications/Internet menu. Instead it is in the me
Hi Milo,
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Milo Casagrande m...@casagrande.name wrote:
Hi Matt,
2010/4/5 Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com:
I'm planning a few minor string changes to the ubuntu-docs package, as
set out below. Please let me know if you have any comments - the
changes will result
which looks a bit like a
webpage.
I've raised this with the firefox maintainer and there is a spec in
place dealing with similar issues: we'll see how it goes.
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with a patch on ubuntu-docs.
I'm hoping to get rid of the offline startpage for this release but we
will include your patch if that doesn't happen.
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that the answer was no because of the confusion caused by
having translations in different places in Launchpad.
(Incidentally, it seems to me that if translation moves to the project
space rather than the package space, renaming the templates is no
longer necessary.)
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, that the LanguagePackTranslationDeadline is in week 20, instead
of week 26 (Karmic), week 24 (Jaunty) or week 25 (Hardy) which gives
them between 4 and 6 fewer weeks to translate software.
I'd really like to see the timetable used in previous releases
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between the two
(which I think is just a hangover from the changes you've made today).
As a solution I'd suggest moving the two items to the same stage in
the release cycle.
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Alexey Balmashnov
a.balmash...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Ricardo Pérez López
rica...@ubuntu.com wrote:
My Yelp main page (System-Help and support) shows untranslated
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/15 Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com:
If the left hand side is untranslated, it's an ubuntu-docs bug. If the
right hand side is untranslated, it's a yelp bug. I'll test with es
myself tomorrow and we'll see if we
/bugs/441401
Should be fixed in ubuntu-docs 9.10.10 and the latest help langpacks
(I'm not sure if they need to be rebuilt before the fix appears
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is untranslated, it's an ubuntu-docs bug. If the
right hand side is untranslated, it's a yelp bug. I'll test with es
myself tomorrow and we'll see if we can diagnose it.
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Sorry for the inconvenience!
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Whoops, forgot to copy the translators in - please reply to this email
rather than my previous one. Apologies!
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Hi Dean,
I'm copying in ubuntu-translators and Jono for their respective input
on the various points below
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Milo Casagrande m...@casagrande.name wrote:
2009/10/5 Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com:
Yes, that's true. But by way of compensation - you would have helped
to find a bug and to have it fixed, and the re-translation of such
strings would be necessary in any event
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Milo Casagrande m...@casagrande.name wrote:
2009/10/5 Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com:
There may be a misunderstanding here - we're not suggesting that the
translators should be doing the reviewing after the string freeze.
No misunderstanding Matt, but looking
translation to the upstream
area of Launchpad despite some obvious technical advantages.
Whichever approach is taken, it seems to me that having translations
in *both* places is just asking for confusion among translators.
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and release the
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if you can identify the problem. Feel free to ask here if you have
any questions, I'm happy to help people learn about how to avoid these
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to Launchpad. That way we get
the fixes for the next release too. Adi, do you have permission to
upload corrected po files for languages other than -ro?
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Hiya,
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Alexey Balmashnov
a.balmash...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
[snip]
The most effective and long-lasting way to fix these errors is if
corrected po files get uploaded directly to Launchpad. That way we
. I'm pretty sure the documentation is more up to date
than before, has closed more bugs than before, and has more extensive
translations than before, and that's due to everyone who has
contributed: thanks.
Looking forward to Karmic...
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Hi
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Evan Murphy evanrmur...@gmail.com wrote:
I just scrutinized the Spanish template flagged for error but couldn't find
one. Currently following the testing instructions Matthew East pointed to,
see if that can clarify. Any advice on tracking down the error
to translate documentation and check the
translations, please see:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation
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documentation but translators please take note so
that the new string can be translated.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/342972
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it should be treated as a
regression and prioritised if possible.
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On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Jeroen Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew East wrote:
Jeroen: there are still 4 pot files to be imported and over 1000 po
files: what are the chances these will all be done by Sunday 19?
Just checking: these were the ubuntu-docs ones, right? I had
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for translations, in past releases we have traditionally tended to
download translations at the LanguagePackTranslationDeadline (in this
case 23 October) rather than the earlier deadline. In particular given
are not identical: they are just similar. Rosetta has no
way of remembering translations of similar English strings (for
obvious reasons).
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string to become untranslated in Intrepid.
That sounds like a good test case with which to file a bug about this behaviour.
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:30 PM, David Planella
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Hi Matthew,
2008/10/13 Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As for translations, in past releases we have traditionally tended to
download translations at the LanguagePackTranslationDeadline (in this
case 23 October) rather
these templates will be imported soon.
You can see the pot files currently queued for ubuntu-docs here:
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ubuntu-docs/+imports?field.filter_status=allfield.filter_extension=pot
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the
translation freeze now, and the queue doesn't seem to have reduced at
all, so I suspect we'll just have to accept that pushing post-release
updates for translations is going to be the priority and the initial
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jochen Skulj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Samstag, den 11.10.2008, 09:50 +0100 schrieb Matthew East:
Not really, some of the pot templates have few changes, others have a
lot - they are all important. We are only a few days away from the
translation freeze now
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Jeroen Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew East wrote:
Danilo,
There are still 1171 items in the ubuntu-docs queue. Is there anything
that can be done?
It looks like they're simply waiting for the importer to get to them. The
server that does
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Jeroen Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew East wrote:
What concerns me the most is that a large number of pot templates have
not been imported, so even translators working through the interface
and not relying on imports cannot work with the latest
Danilo,
There are still 1171 items in the ubuntu-docs queue. Is there anything
that can be done?
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Hi Danilo,
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Danilo Šegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Matthew,
У сре, 01. 10 2008. у 12:57 +0100, Matthew East пише:
I can't help as to when these templates will be available in Launchpad
though. Based on what Ricardo said, it it doesn't seem like any
But the system used by ubuntu-docs and which is simpler, in my
opinion, is the former one. Let's use the former one and I will fix
the kubuntu-docs package when I get working internet.
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templates will only be available
then.
I can't help as to when these templates will be available in Launchpad
though. Based on what Ricardo said, it it doesn't seem like any
templates have been processed by Launchpad since 4 August 2008.
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to intrepid?
IIRC ubuntu-doc is translated as a separate project, not as an Ubuntu
package. Is that correct?
No - https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ubuntu-docs
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the Italian
team does things. That will no longer be possible, if I've understood
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as an
official Ubuntu translation team (this is something that I don't know
and, from my POV, it's not well documented...).
It's described on https://help.launchpad.net/FAQ/Translations, which
is linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslatingUbuntu
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mailing list.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
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doing the notification, because the
bug report in which the freeze exception request is made is required
to contain a link to the notification in the archive of the -doc and
-translators mailing list. I don't know to what extent that process is
actually enforced though.
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for your language:
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Help on how to test your translations is at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation
In the meantime keep translating - there is plenty of time left to
have all the documentation translated for Ubuntu 8.04!
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Hi,
On Feb 19, 2008 4:40 PM, ஆமாச்சு [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 19 Feb 2008 8:27:54 pm Matthew East wrote:
Thanks, I've fixed this.
Sorry troubling again
I did,
$ bzr checkout --lightweight
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-hardy
bzr: ERROR
to prevent this from happening, so I think it's an
acceptable solution to make it obligatory to translate from a single
source language.
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translations for the ubuntu-docs source package.
Would you reconsider this?
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Hi,
On 11/10/2007, Danilo Šegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for the late response, I've got quite some pending email waiting
for some attention.
I can imagine, thanks for fast-tracking this one!
On Monday at 22:16, Matthew East wrote:
Ricardo pointed out to me this evening
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