Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Scott Morrow
So then the “empty” field *is* truly empty and it is the act of “looking” at the htmlText that causes the tags. Schrödinger's cat may have more to say on this. -- Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementar

Re: LC Commercial Update

2014-03-19 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote: > > Am I imagining this or was there an option (button to click) on the update > dialog to "skip this release" that is no more reminders until the next next > version comes out? I see this in some programs and find very useful. No, your n

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:28 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I just think it's wrong, purely for the sake of consistency in the > language. In some ways your argument is correct; as with my own pet peeve, what the language does when putting empty into an item: put 1,2,3,4 into tStore put the number

Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-19 Thread larry
When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague "Multiple Objects" in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless "Multiple" There have been times when I inadvertently

Re: Telnet on Android

2014-03-19 Thread Glen Bojsza
Is there an option to possibly open process from LC on Android and then work with a third party telnet client that we would need to identify and have installed on the table? Does LC's open process work on Android? On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > On 19/03/2014 09:59, Mark

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I keep having this niggling feeling that the devs did this for some good reason, and that if empty text didn’t correspond to in htmlText, the engine would choke, cough and sputter when it discovered to it’s horror that the htmlText of anything was literally empty. Either way, I’m still going t

Re: Triggering LC scripts when emails are received

2014-03-19 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 18/03/2014 09:04, j...@souslelogo.com wrote: Then I made a test with an .irev script; the email forwarder also detected an error in the script, but was unable to fix it, so the test failed : the email bounced and was considered as spam. I guess I need to follow Matthias advice and ask on-rev t

Re: LC Commercial Update

2014-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I get that when the updater launches for me… Bob On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:23 , Robert Brenstein wrote: > On 19.03.2014 at 20:07 Uhr +0200 Richmond apparently wrote: >> You are imagining things. >> >> If you open the Preferences stack; /Edit/Preferences you can stop update >> notices; select "U

Re: Telnet on Android

2014-03-19 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 19/03/2014 09:59, Mark Schonewille wrote: Can you tell more about this? Is this a router in an existing network environment? Is this a router that is yet to be designed? Can you alter the software in the router? Normally, you'd log in on a router over http and change the settings in your

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi all The release notes you get from the downloads page on the website are fine - however the release notes you get from 7.0.0's IDE menu give you release notes from 6.0.1 I'd report it as a bug but there is no drop-down entry for LiveCode 7.0.0 at quality.runrev.com :) - "Some are born c

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Lambert
Team, Thanks for the 7.0 DP1 Very exciting. FYI, http://quality.runrev.com should include this version in the version selector. Thanks, Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsub

Re: package maker

2014-03-19 Thread Alain Vezina
Hi All, Here is the answer I received this morning from Ohanaware : "Pleased to hear that you like our App Wrapper, on the main page, unselect “Change Version”. It’s designed to automatically reformat your version number to Apple’s suggested format. However it shouldn’t be enabled when you vers

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Using was an example. If you have in an HTML file, the > browser will still render the HTML as empty. Of course there are tons of > tags will accomplish the same. > Ah, but if you had a style applied to p that shows a border then the borde

Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 21:34, Warren Samples wrote: On 03/19/2014 12:39 PM, Richmond wrote: to do this I have had to nest responses so that each response-let connects to each of your points. For whose benefit? That was not in any sense necessary. It was your preference. You could have just as easily co

Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-19 Thread Warren Samples
On 03/19/2014 12:39 PM, Richmond wrote: to do this I have had to nest responses so that each response-let connects to each of your points. For whose benefit? That was not in any sense necessary. It was your preference. You could have just as easily constructed a coherent response addressing

Re: before vs on in behavior scripts

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Wieder
J. Landman Gay writes: > > On 3/19/14, 12:14 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > > it didn't work with both and after end and on handler > > Lay off the Scotch, Devin. ;) Though actually, if you read it out loud, > it makes sense. This me had to read "with both and after end and on" aloud three times bef

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/19/14, 1:45 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I'm not sure why this is such a problem. Html isn't regular text and shouldn't be treated as such, that's why htmltext is a separate property from text. It isn't a problem really, and it doesn't require immediate attention. I just think it's wrong, pu

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Using was an example. If you have in an HTML file, the browser will still render the HTML as empty. Of course there are tons of tags will accomplish the same. And if the HTMLtext is limited to a field, then the field is essentially the entire document. The HTML isn't describing the content of

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Trevor, When a browser renders "" it displays nothing. Correct htmlText starts and ends with p tags. That's the LiveCode convention. Anything else is not htmlText. Therefore, if a text is empty, to have valid htmlText the propety still needs to return the tags. Currently, we wil always know

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
Building the same stack for Linux [ PISMO: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/LANGTOOLS.html] I get these results; Livecode 6.6.0 rc 2: 12.9 MB Livecode 7.0.0 dp 1: 38.7 MB So, I assume that 25.8 MB is the size of the ICU data that gets rolled into the standalone. ---

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Maybe it helps (or hinders) to consider the fact the following renders as > empty in a web browser, even though clearly there is code content present: > > > > > > True. But doesn't mean that you have 1 empty paragraph? I think that the H

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Maybe it helps (or hinders) to consider the fact the following renders as > empty in a web browser, even though clearly there is code content present: > > > > > > > So given what HTML is, checking if the HTML content of a field is empty > do

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 20:52, Kevin Miller wrote: Currently there is no way to reduce the size of the executables, which are much larger. This is noted in ³Known issues². I notice that the release notes in the download are not correct, you can find the right ones here http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Kevin Miller
Currently there is no way to reduce the size of the executables, which are much larger. This is noted in ³Known issues². I notice that the release notes in the download are not correct, you can find the right ones here http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/7_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0_dp_1.pdf Known

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm not sure why this is such a problem. Html isn't regular text and shouldn't be treated as such, that's why htmltext is a separate property from text. If the current behavior was changed, I'm sure it would cause backward compatibility problems. If you want to check if a field is empty - if fie

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
For types like me; "-The engine files are much larger than previous versions due to inclusion of ICU data" --- ICU = International Components for Unicode "an open source project of mature C/C++ and Java libraries for Unicode support,

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Jacque, I don't agree and the solution is simple: just include a statement in the docs that the htmlText property is never empty but always returns at least one pair of p tags. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-ta

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Haworth
I might try adding a basic Notes feature to it, if Bjornke is OK with that. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Mats Wilstrand < mats

Re: LC Commercial Update

2014-03-19 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 19.03.2014 at 20:07 Uhr +0200 Richmond apparently wrote: You are imagining things. If you open the Preferences stack; /Edit/Preferences you can stop update notices; select "Updates" (second from the bottom). You will then be given a fantastic range of choices: Notify me of stable releases

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Maybe it helps (or hinders) to consider the fact the following renders as empty in a web browser, even though clearly there is code content present: So given what HTML is, checking if the HTML content of a field is empty doesn't really compare to checking if the code content of a field is emp

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
Right; lads and lasses, the initial release of 7.0.0 is here The Dictionary stack looks exactly the same as that in previous releases, so now we can consider running up some hack-stacks. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists

Re: LC Commercial Update

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 19:44, Robert Brenstein wrote: On 18.03.2014 at 17:28 Uhr -0600 apparently wrote: Thank you Richard, That is a very good point. And thanks to Mark Schonewille for explaining how to turn off the update message. Larry Am I imagining this or was there an option (button to click)

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 20:02, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 DP1. Ooh, ecstasy and a long night ahead of me! This should bring us the vast majority of the Kickstarter goals! It is our moral duty, Use-List members, to try and: 1. Break t

RE: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Ralph DiMola
+1 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dave Kilroy Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Prob

RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-19 Thread Heather Laine
Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 DP1. *Warning, this is a pre-release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* Important Changes -

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Devin Asay
On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:57 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > On 3/19/14, 10:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> I am struggling to see when this would present an impassible problem. > > I grant that it's trivial and not a high priority. But it makes the language > inconsistent, and I see that as the prima

Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-19 Thread Warren Samples
On 03/19/2014 03:13 AM, Richmond wrote: I'm sorry, but I am not going to take responsibility for your decision to read the Use-List using a mobile device. LOL. Richmond. I don't know that there's any need to be so snarky. It's a fairly common request in mailing lists that care be taken t

Re: LC Commercial Update

2014-03-19 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 18.03.2014 at 17:28 Uhr -0600 apparently wrote: Thank you Richard, That is a very good point. And thanks to Mark Schonewille for explaining how to turn off the update message. Larry Am I imagining this or was there an option (button to click) on the update dialog to "skip this release"

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Dave Kilroy
I'm with Jacque - definitely a bug - "Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them." - William Shakespeare & Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Problem-with-setting-htmlText-of-field-to-empty-in

Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 19:00, Warren Samples wrote: On 03/19/2014 03:13 AM, Richmond wrote: I'm sorry, but I am not going to take responsibility for your decision to read the Use-List using a mobile device. LOL. Richmond. I don't know that there's any need to be so snarky. This topic (shortening

Re: Livecode and Genymotion

2014-03-19 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT
Le 19 mars 2014 à 17:01, Neil Roger a écrit : > Hi Ludovic, > > GennyMotion is built on x86 architecture and this is why LiveCode Android > apps will not run on this emulator (they are ARM based). > > However, I did have some success installing the ARM Translation Installer > v1.1

RE: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Mats Wilstrand
+ 1 from me Pete. Björnke's Docu 2 is a little gem. It has a framework already in place to add new features and design from with ease. It's fast, works with any LC version, takes care of correcting some flaws of the structure and in the xml of the LC dictionary and I haven't seen any bugs! It

Re: Livecode and Genymotion

2014-03-19 Thread Neil Roger
Hi Ludovic, GennyMotion is built on x86 architecture and this is why LiveCode Android apps will not run on this emulator (they are ARM based). However, I did have some success installing the ARM Translation Installer v1.1 found on the following XDA developer post htt

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Vaughn Clement
OK this is a video from YouTube showing the LiveCode Dictionary Pro app demo: The YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFDZjxVHgZI&feature=em-upload_owner This is a demo of the apps main features. I am putting this up for questions and suggestions. Note: the app will include Video screen

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 19.03.2014 at 10:29 Uhr -0400 Tim Bleiler apparently wrote: Being a contrarian again, Jacqueline? I was all set to forget about this. I really hate posting bug reports that aren't bugs but I agree with you on this from my Livecode centric world view. Anyone else have any insights into the

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/19/14, 10:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I am struggling to see when this would present an impassible problem. I grant that it's trivial and not a high priority. But it makes the language inconsistent, and I see that as the primary issue. I gave an example in another post of how it could aff

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/19/14, 9:35 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: In the past 15 years I never had any problems with htmlText always containing p tags, even if the text of the field was empty. Therefore, I think it is no bug. I haven't had any problem with it either, but that doesn't mean it isn't a bug. Consider

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I do not see this as a bug. Is it possible that there is some HTML convention > that requires some kind of tag/ending tag to be present for a page to be > considered an html page? And I agree with Richmond that if a field is empty, > there is

Re: before vs on in behavior scripts

2014-03-19 Thread Devin Asay
On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:26 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > On 3/19/14, 12:14 AM, Devin Asay wrote: >> it didn't work with both and after end and on handler > > Lay off the Scotch, Devin. ;) Though actually, if you read it out loud, it > makes sense. > > > I don't have another mouse up Hendler >

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I do not see this as a bug. Is it possible that there is some HTML convention that requires some kind of tag/ending tag to be present for a page to be considered an html page? And I agree with Richmond that if a field is empty, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY for the HTML Text of the field to be anythi

Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I agree that people should select the pertinent text to be quoted before replying. It’s just good email etiquette. However, there may be an option to reverse the direction of the quoted text to place it at the top instead of the bottom of the post. Bob On Mar 18, 2014, at 13:24 , Gerry Orkin

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Haworth
I hope Bjornke picks up on this. His Docu2 plugin is already a better way to view the dictionary and already provides the search mechanisms that have been mentioned . Since it's based on an sqlite database, I suspect it would be relatively easy to add a Notes table and associated access routines.

Livecode and Genymotion

2014-03-19 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT
Hello, Anyone use Genymotion to test android app ? I cannot succeed to launch my apps on it, they crashes at launch (but works with the "official" way). I add my app to the device by dragging the apk on the window of the virtual device (i set the settings to allow unknow sources). Thanks _

Re: before vs on in behavior scripts

2014-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
Actually, you need to down a few, and then all of this makes sense. Bob On Mar 18, 2014, at 22:26 , J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 3/19/14, 12:14 AM, Devin Asay wrote: >> it didn't work with both and after end and on handler > > Lay off the Scotch, Devin. ;) Though actually, if you read it out lo

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 16:45, Mark Schonewille wrote: Tim, I would expect a real beginner to use the put command: put fld x into fld y put something into fld x put fld y into something etc. Once your going to use htmlText, perhaps you're not a real beginner anymore. It seems you have a lot of experience

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Tim, I would expect a real beginner to use the put command: put fld x into fld y put something into fld x put fld y into something etc. Once your going to use htmlText, perhaps you're not a real beginner anymore. It seems you have a lot of experience with other programming language. Perhaps th

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > That's a matter of interpretation. By "clearing the htmlText" I mean > "resetting it to "". On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Jacque, > > In the past 15 years I never had any problems with htmlText always containing

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 16:30, Mark Schonewille wrote: Richmond, That's a matter of interpretation. By "clearing the htmlText" I mean "resetting it to "". Well, now we have 2 conumdrums for the price of one: 1. When is 'empty' empty? 2. When does "clearing the text" clear the text? Well; even if nothi

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Jacque, In the past 15 years I never had any problems with htmlText always containing p tags, even if the text of the field was empty. Therefore, I think it is no bug. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitt

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 16:26, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: On 19/03/14 11:28, Shawn Blc wrote: This would be a great feature for the Commercial version ;) Another feature to differentiate the two versions. Raw Prawns! That would be a good thing for both versions. Having taken a quick shufti

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Richmond, That's a matter of interpretation. By "clearing the htmlText" I mean "resetting it to "". -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color C

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > To me it looks like the engine wraps the html in opening and closing tags, > and when there is no content it forgets to take them off. I think the > logical concept of empty outweighs the technical meaning of the html and it's > a bug.

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: On 19/03/14 11:28, Shawn Blc wrote: This would be a great feature for the Commercial version ;) Another feature to differentiate the two versions. Raw Prawns! That would be a good thing for both versions. Having taken a quick shuftie at the Dictionary this morning, the idea

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Tim, Am 19.03.2014 um 15:18 schrieb Tim Bleiler : > On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Richmond wrote: > >> When I was a kid I wondered why babies were born the way they were, rather >> than in hygienically packaged eggs >> like chickens. > > Great! Thanks, Richmond. Now I've got to worry about

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
To me it looks like the engine wraps the html in opening and closing tags, and when there is no content it forgets to take them off. I think the logical concept of empty outweighs the technical meaning of the html and it's a bug. On March 19, 2014 9:02:28 AM CDT, Tim Bleiler wrote: > >On Mar

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Richmond wrote: > When I was a kid I wondered why babies were born the way they were, rather > than in hygienically packaged eggs > like chickens. Great! Thanks, Richmond. Now I've got to worry about that, too! Tim ___ u

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 16:10, Tim Bleiler wrote: On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Richmond wrote: Well, of course that's logically fairly crappy. The way to test if an htmlField is empty is surely something like this: if the htmlText of fld "f1" is not "" then put "Yippee-Do, 'tis empty my friend!" end

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > This clears the text, the htmlText, the unicodeText and the rtfText of the > field. Why would you want to test that only the htmlText is empty? Yes, all true, it's definitely easy to deal with. I stumbled on it by accident and thought it

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 16:09, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Tim, Why would you want to do this? To make a field empty, just put empty into the field and if you want you can test that it is empty: put empty into fld 1 put (fld 1 is empty) --> true This clears the text, the htmlText, Not exactly: "put em

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Richmond wrote: > Well, of course that's logically fairly crappy. > > The way to test if an htmlField is empty is surely something like this: > > if the htmlText of fld "f1" is not "" then > put "Yippee-Do, 'tis empty my friend!" > end if Sure, it's easy to dea

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Tim, Why would you want to do this? To make a field empty, just put empty into the field and if you want you can test that it is empty: put empty into fld 1 put (fld 1 is empty) --> true This clears the text, the htmlText, the unicodeText and the rtfText of the field. Why would you want t

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 16:02, Tim Bleiler wrote: On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: Are others seeing this and is it a bug? since is in fact the HTML equivalent to "empty/no text" I would not consider this a bug :-) Thanks Klaus, I thought I should check on that before putting in a bug

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 15:39, Klaus major-k wrote: Hi Tim, Am 19.03.2014 um 14:30 schrieb Tim Bleiler : Hi, After doing a quick check, this problem has existed for at least a couple of versions, but I just noticed it. I've only checked on a Mac. When a new field is created it appears to be empty but t

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Tim, Am 19.03.2014 um 15:02 schrieb Tim Bleiler : > On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: >>> Are others seeing this and is it a bug? >> since is in fact the HTML equivalent to "empty/no text" I would not >> consider this a bug :-) > Thanks Klaus, I thought I should check on that

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: >> Are others seeing this and is it a bug? > > since is in fact the HTML equivalent to "empty/no text" I would not > consider this a bug :-) Thanks Klaus, I thought I should check on that before putting in a bug report. It seemed too obvious

Re: Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Tim, Am 19.03.2014 um 14:30 schrieb Tim Bleiler : > Hi, > > After doing a quick check, this problem has existed for at least a couple of > versions, but I just noticed it. > > I've only checked on a Mac. > When a new field is created it appears to be empty but the htmlText of the > field

Problem with setting htmlText of field to empty in LiveCode 6.6 RC2

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Bleiler
Hi, After doing a quick check, this problem has existed for at least a couple of versions, but I just noticed it. I've only checked on a Mac. When a new field is created it appears to be empty but the htmlText of the field is . The number of lines reported for the field is 0. The text of th

Re: Telnet on Android

2014-03-19 Thread Dave Kilroy
According to the dictionary in 6.6.0 (rc2) Secure Socket is only for Mac/Win/Linux - "Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them." - William Shakespeare & Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Tel

Re: Font sizes and Ubuntu versions

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
Thanks, William de Smet. The problem has now been "resolved" (if that's what building a whole slew of standalones all over again means): http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19647&p=99475#p99475 This problem may also crop up with other people transferring standalones written for earli

Re: Telnet on Android

2014-03-19 Thread Roger Eller
Coming in 6.6 is a 'secure socket' command (mentioned in the RC announcements). It is in RC 1 and RC 2, but I haven't looked to see if it is cross-platform. I would hope yes. Sent from my Android tablet On Mar 19, 2014 6:10 AM, "Glen Bojsza" wrote: > The router already is designed, built and d

Re: Font sizes and Ubuntu versions

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 10:59, William de Smet wrote: Hi Richmond, Could it be that the font names have changed on Xubuntu 12.04? Or the font is not present on Xubuntu 12.04? I see the same thing when I work with a font and the font is not installed on the pc the app is used on. That's certainly a thought

Re: Telnet on Android

2014-03-19 Thread Glen Bojsza
The router already is designed, built and deployed. Needs to be telnet since the app will use a special purpose command line built only for a specific admin level access so there are no other options. Believe it or not but the tablet connects via ethernet to the router...this is a very special app

Re: Telnet on Android

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Glen, Can you tell more about this? Is this a router in an existing network environment? Is this a router that is yet to be designed? Can you alter the software in the router? Normally, you'd log in on a router over http and change the settings in your internet browser. I would expect thi

Telnet on Android

2014-03-19 Thread Glen Bojsza
I need to create an Android app that does a telnet session to a router and the n processes several command line arguments. Livecode's Android support doesn't currently support sockets so can anyone recommend a solution? The app does simply what I have described...when launched there should be a c

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 11:28, Shawn Blc wrote: This would be a great feature for the Commercial version ;) Another feature to differentiate the two versions. Raw Prawns! That would be a good thing for both versions. Having taken a quick shuftie at the Dictionary this morning, the idea should not be i

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Shawn Blc
This would be a great feature for the Commercial version ;) Another feature to differentiate the two versions. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 19/03/14 01:47, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Over a year ago I wrote to RR and suggested they a

Re: Font sizes and Ubuntu versions

2014-03-19 Thread William de Smet
Hi Richmond, Could it be that the font names have changed on Xubuntu 12.04? Or the font is not present on Xubuntu 12.04? I see the same thing when I work with a font and the font is not installed on the pc the app is used on. greetings, William 2014-03-19 9:37 GMT+01:00 Richmond : > This ma

Font sizes and Ubuntu versions

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
This may be a bit of a niche problem [a niche consisting of me, myself and I], but problem it is, nevertheless (nice spot of grammatical inversion there): A series of EFL standalones I authored with LC/RR 2.2.1 on Linux about 6/7 years ago have been causing me some problems recently. All of t

Re: I'm trying to rally the troops...

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 19/03/14 01:47, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello Everyone, Over a year ago I wrote to RR and suggested they allow the user to add notes directly to the LC dictionary. (for private viewing) I understand why they need to approve notes that are added for public viewing. But there are

Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-19 Thread Richmond
On 18/03/14 22:24, Gerry Orkin wrote: Could people please limit the text they include from the message they are quoting when replying? A one line response followed by 50 lines of quoted text makes scrolling through messages on mobile devices a pain. I'm sorry, but I am not going to take resp