Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
You could do that on Android because Android allows private distribution. The stacks would have to be downloaded from the internet though. For iOS, no way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On March 26, 2021 8:34:20 PM Alex

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I don't think what you want is possible unless your target users are on very old operating systems. On Mac OS at least, every standalone now has to be notarized . You could build a standalone that launches other standalones, but each of those would also have to be notarized or the Mac won't

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
This conversation has given me some focus and clarification of the basic idea. Here is what I would love to see: A LiveCodeLight downloadable from the mother ship. LiveCodeLight would be a stripped down version of the community edition that would not open the IDE, but would open and run stacks.

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Robert J. Earp via use-livecode
I too remember the good ‘ol days Roger and in fact still have one of my eLearning shell projects that still runs stand-alone on both Catalina and Windows, although I’d have to check which version of Windows. The project has stacks calling stacks and external media. The MacOS stand-alone

Unreliable File Deletion

2021-03-27 Thread Peter Reid via use-livecode
Hi Has anyone had problems with file deletion by LC under Windows 10? According to the docs the following commands should delete a file: delete file pathname open file pathname for write Also the shell() command sequence: put UnixToWinPath(pFile) into pWinFile

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Roger Guay wrote: > On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> What are you looking for? When were these "good ol days" >> in which one could run stack files without an engine, and >> how did that work? > > In the good ol days, I could build a standalone for the Mac, > Windows and

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
A few days ago, a very impressive post came in here from a researcher at an accelerator lab somewhere. I’ve lost the post and may have some details wrong. As I recall he was very complimentary of LiveCode as a tool for his work but was lamenting that he could no longer easily share his work

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Maybe I'm missing something, but what would be the advantage of using stack runner over a standalone? Richmond. On 27.03.21 19:27, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: Could be, but that requires you to be an Apple Developer. Too much hassle! A LiveCodeLight from RunRev that runs stacks

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
A couple of things. The developer is not even required to build a standalone, and presumably it would be easier to strip out or hide the IDE of LiveCodeLight. Otherwise, either way is good. Roger > On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > Maybe I'm missing

Unreliable File Deletion

2021-03-27 Thread Peter Reid via use-livecode
Hi Has anyone had problems with file deletion by LC under Windows 10? According to the docs the following commands should delete a file: delete file pathname open file pathname for write Also the shell() command sequence: put UnixToWinPath(pFile) into pWinFile

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I despair . . . how could one lower oneself to two fingers of 'whiskey'? Just now I am enjoying a glass of whisky (without the offending 'e'). Richmond. On 27.03.21 20:29, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Roger Guay wrote: On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: What are

LC and Websockets

2021-03-27 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Greetings! I've been looking around the boards and whatnot and see there has been some discussion about implementing web sockets in LiveCode. Has anyone come up with a library or a way to do this effectively for the Big 4 (Windows, Mac, iOS and Android)? Thanks in advance, Dan

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
I thought that if you set up beta testers, with the id of the device an app would be run on, others could run your app as a beta tester. But, perhaps,you need an apple license to do even that? Bill William Prothero https://earthlearningsolutions.org > On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:10 PM, David

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Could be, but that requires you to be an Apple Developer. Too much hassle! A LiveCodeLight from RunRev that runs stacks without the IDE would be easier. Roger > On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:18 AM, ELS Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > I thought that if you set up beta testers, with the id of

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 27/03/2021 18:29, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: My response to Alex was apparently too long to be read, but I touched on this in third block, re "security", re implications for a player as well: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2021-March/263948.html Not at all "too

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Roger Guay wrote: In the good ol days, I could build a standalone for the Mac, Windows and Linux and distribute it willy-nilly. On desktop you still can, sort of, if you don't mind instructing your users how to get around the security blocks that both Windows and Mac OS have adopted. If your

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Jacque, You always come thru with such great clarity and thoroughness. I remember going thru this process a few years ago, but I thought this back door approach was closed by Apple within the last couple of OS releases. Indeed, looking at my Security tab of System Preferences in OS 11.2, I do

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
Roger, Yes, I believe it is on an individual app basis that occurs at the time the app is being first opened. — Scott > On Mar 27, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Jacque, > > You always come thru with such great clarity and thoroughness. I remember > going thru

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 27/03/2021 02:43, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: This makes the Community Edition a natural fit for a generic player, since the proliferation the license explicitly encourages would be very much with the grain of its goals. But then we have to ask: how many of those who might

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Thanks, Scott. I will be testing all this in the next day or so and will report. Roger > On Mar 27, 2021, at 4:56 PM, scott--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > Roger, > Yes, I believe it is on an individual app basis that occurs at the time the > app is being first opened. > — > Scott > >> On

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Here is a report on the back door approach to opening a standalone on MAC OS 11.2: I built a stack precisely as Jacqueline specified and made a Mac standalone of it. I checked to make sure it worked on my own computer. I then sent the standalone to my wife’s computer – another Mac running the

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Thank you, Richard for these responses . . . some of which I will have to consider for a while to better understand. But I still think this idea has merit, is very easy to do and maintain and makes Livecode even more attractive to prospective customers, especially those who require easy

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-27 Thread Dev via use-livecode
Roger On your wife’s machine - if you right click the app and choose Open from the context menu, do you get more options about opening? If you adjust settings in the Security and Privacy System Preferences can you downgrade standards to allow a one time opening? If neither of these work, then