Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Opening mdb jet db files under Linux
Thanks Alex! Dave, On Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 06:13 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 12/01/2017 à 22:34, dave boland a écrit : > > Hi Dave, > > > > Will Base do this? If so, how? I tried to open one, and nothing > > happened. > > > > > Yes, via this : > > > http://ucanaccess.sourceforge.net/site.html > > > Alex > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Opening mdb jet db files under Linux
Will Base do this? If so, how? I tried to open one, and nothing happened. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing 7' x 5" envelopes?
UPDATE: I was able to get the envelopes printed by creating my own template and somehow the mail merge worked (don't ask me what I did - don't recall). Still, the envelope/mail merge process needs some serious improvement to make it more straight forward and easier. Dave, On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 12:01 AM, dave boland wrote: > Seems like with each new version of LO this gets harder. I need to > print addresses for Christmas card envelopes. The envelopes are 7.25" > wide and 5.25" high - a standard size, but not found in LO. I see the > database connection works to my spreadsheet of addresses, but getting > the format right does not work. > > I used User/Custom size, 7.25"W x 5.25"H. What is displayed is not a > 7.25" x 5.25" envelope. I need a detailed procedure to make this work. > > Thanks, > Dave > -- > dave boland > dbola...@fastmail.fm > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Printing 7' x 5" envelopes?
Seems like with each new version of LO this gets harder. I need to print addresses for Christmas card envelopes. The envelopes are 7.25" wide and 5.25" high - a standard size, but not found in LO. I see the database connection works to my spreadsheet of addresses, but getting the format right does not work. I used User/Custom size, 7.25"W x 5.25"H. What is displayed is not a 7.25" x 5.25" envelope. I need a detailed procedure to make this work. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Column width not shown when resizing column
Bruce, I have both Use hardware acceleration and Use anti-aliasing checked. No combination of checked/unchecked resolves the problem. Dave, On Sun, Dec 4, 2016, at 09:01 AM, Bruce Hohl wrote: > Version: 5.2.3.2, Build ID: 1:5.2.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial1, which I > currently > have installed does show column width when resizing. You might > check/test > the Graphics Output setting under Tools > Options > LibreOffice > View. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:31 AM, dave boland <dbola...@fastmail.fm> > wrote: > > > Previous versions showed the column width when the column was resized. > > Version: 5.2.2.2 does not do that. Is there a fix? > > > > Dave, > > Ubuntu mate 16.10 > > -- > > dave boland > > dbola...@fastmail.fm > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > > unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Column width not shown when resizing column
Previous versions showed the column width when the column was resized. Version: 5.2.2.2 does not do that. Is there a fix? Dave, Ubuntu mate 16.10 -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base not starting
Thanks Alex! Dave, On Mon, Nov 21, 2016, at 07:04 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 19/11/2016 à 21:49, dave boland a écrit : > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > It appears that Base was not installed as part of the upgrade - odd! > > Ubuntu has a habit of not installing Base by default, even if you > upgrade your OS version...it is a user experience (UX) implementation > choice I have never understood, but hey...once bitten twice shy, and all > that... > > > > > So, my question is what components are needed? They are: > > * Java runtime. Should not need as I have the 1.8 JDK, but... > > * report-builder > > * others? > > > You should have by now installed : > > - libreoffice-base > - libreoffice-base-core. > > > > Check that you also have the sdbc driver packages: > > - libreoffice-base-drivers); > - libreoffice-sdbc-firebird; > - libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb; > - libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql; > - libreoffice-mysql-connector (native mysql/mariadb connector package). > > > For reports : > - libreoffice-report-builder; > - libreoffice-report-builder-bin. > > > > Alex > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base not starting
Robert, It appears that Base was not installed as part of the upgrade - odd! So, my question is what components are needed? They are: * Java runtime. Should not need as I have the 1.8 JDK, but... * report-builder * others? Dave, On Sat, Nov 19, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Robert Großkopf wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Dave, > > > > > LO was installed as part of the upgrade from a previous version > > where Base was installed. > > And? Have you had a look it has been installed? I have read the same > on a German Ubuntu-Forum: Base wouldn't be installed by default, but > could be choosen and nothing happens, if you click on the button. > > Could be there has been run something wrong with the upgrade. > > ... and one hint: Please don't reply to my private mail-address. I > will get all mails twice then: One for the mailinglist and the other > for my private address. > > Regards > > Robert > - -- > Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de > LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYMG4XAAoJELDKYwaoS9AIFoAP/i2jBrbZ+2sKRe9j8nNJtTcc > XUUXjtuuZnu/P28Eorg1HyT6jWE24yovsoZBVnEuoUPNT++ebG8fDA/xhm9iLi81 > 9nrXp6BsqTbrew+BED6SyVP/lau7rHWlq/Bm0/CMTXzdC6ln4BwPlasxNxMU93+8 > dBbj4k9JizKGFFfAHKETdKMo3BkN9J4OUekEK1xiiSvEAEJHFI7XoZgYlWi59wgr > dXsb52Dfn6vDtJCP/mg7SDnSvSkDDfnmMfbfhgEfQXl6eymfXJztDLLU4q+9KtfZ > /aqrzsdcHEFOOjWaLf+iK7NAiHW1wjswXZRrAih0csLMTUauuXmUSpvX5nyMAPwV > oTlDpU6MPR+fap/o+VkiQOkdmYDvHFSZ7RX+xri8Poth8gcL8o/vW45rzIH3+5HR > 0keROinUw9KRYsCnzwI6pTAUd2VKbmHoUDu5B3O40Ro4oFgqvfxFGyfSCiPtQotR > 1V416BvuvjhpabU7fz3goZ+1YLfJVt4A65SaCcUS5a6xviUTgU3yEbyq6PyigOnX > wjScSCaKx1GHd7xqKABYdaQKCLAg5t00i5ju/WP0K8rF8cfIrHwDUYLkBjfFLJ0O > m9INIXdvLvxZl9EDzaD5RxYeTeokGpriXepjmtpXHd0r5ZvBpmJ7BSLAyH8+81Nv > cAH0xARwk6ymNYUmsKlw > =Miu0 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base not starting
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016, at 08:42 AM, RODRIGUEZ FONSECA JORGE ALBERTO wrote: > Hi: > > I suggest this: > > 1) Load the menu Office-Base. > 2) Drag and Drop the Icon-Menu Base to the desktop The menu item "Base Database" is not drag and drop, so nothing happens. None of the menu items are D & D. Dave, > 3) Right click on icon Base desktop, find properties and then click there > 4) Look there the Order statement > 5) Copy the statement order > 6) Open a terminal (Console) > 7) Paste the statement order Copied before (Right click on the terminal) > 8) Type Enter > 9) If Base not run ... look the message that appearer in terminal > 10) Copy that message and paste in a e-mail to here and probably someone > know to help you > > Regards, > > Jorge Rodríguez > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Großkopf" <rob...@familiegrosskopf.de> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:55:54 AM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base not starting > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Dave, > > > When I click on Base, nothing happens. Also, there is no File/Base > > or File/Database. What gives? > > > > Dave, Ubuntu 16.10 mate LO 5.2.2 > > Where did you get LO from? Ubuntu repositories? Could be the > standard-installation doesen't install the packages for Base. > > Another problem could be there isn't a JRE installed. > > Regards > > Robert > > - -- > Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de > LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYMD3KAAoJELDKYwaoS9AIRYAP/20EsxDa4mJBQojdpWcj8KJp > VlIpoXMorF8KCiWhETgbpmOzSY8pgQcnWSUPHJfC/QwbT1qj4ogBp2+hfjspQGJk > WKDK5K6Cc8ZwQL1eRU35gBWNbRQy3fRxl50+ya32r7ITc9qtvt+3mJRzEtLW+o66 > 7f7LxxpXDjuamm1IwfNsN+4WYhFQO1S+6LHFHH3WbcxusaF+4M/k6cfZnznhuvn7 > mFGN/+4MV+jmfinLfIsBNJZshh/xR4UOxR67iVd2b4q7ZvI8+5pM4+n0bxAyYAa5 > vpPeBDSA/Et4kzc2B7rEImtcVJNllEeY29YcfQKnM4Cx/zAd3RSQmq5pZr4x5ql/ > vPS+1jC3Yrk4+4zz20yM78fzgzDeUGBzJ5b6fQxHG8go+b5/kF5wkxT4oSD3qjYL > fN33fNhVxlsRkwPi+ZcIxUhY7xMR4kgK2UzUFktIXcKJKcadETIpfYD1zwqoaIHo > WGDXNyXm5CdJ4lYHQTtgSydnti/A+kZ7P0onwfsGyAadz2l88AzyV4ReuH/a2vHN > Pk9ZXJNHZ6ss6YdX2fMQxOQ/9qNAPDQ7HyPRTWLNqHYVb5hVnGuB9T0zGmm0y5BP > 3RSOdM0p1GzRtk7cFWi3KC1BFxUFtGd8zpwcO4EwBNKSYXj1F0ZiqoO6AeRgFsu/ > 8Fnn4A6IUqp9SBFE7iw9 > =O2kI > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base not starting
JRE is installed. $ java -version openjdk version "1.8.0_111" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_111-8u111-b14-2ubuntu0.16.10.2-b14) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.111-b14, mixed mode) LO was installed as part of the upgrade from a previous version where Base was installed. Dave, On Sat, Nov 19, 2016, at 06:55 AM, Robert Großkopf wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Dave, > > > When I click on Base, nothing happens. Also, there is no File/Base > > or File/Database. What gives? > > > > Dave, Ubuntu 16.10 mate LO 5.2.2 > > Where did you get LO from? Ubuntu repositories? Could be the > standard-installation doesen't install the packages for Base. > > Another problem could be there isn't a JRE installed. > > Regards > > Robert > > - -- > Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de > LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJYMD3KAAoJELDKYwaoS9AIRYAP/20EsxDa4mJBQojdpWcj8KJp > VlIpoXMorF8KCiWhETgbpmOzSY8pgQcnWSUPHJfC/QwbT1qj4ogBp2+hfjspQGJk > WKDK5K6Cc8ZwQL1eRU35gBWNbRQy3fRxl50+ya32r7ITc9qtvt+3mJRzEtLW+o66 > 7f7LxxpXDjuamm1IwfNsN+4WYhFQO1S+6LHFHH3WbcxusaF+4M/k6cfZnznhuvn7 > mFGN/+4MV+jmfinLfIsBNJZshh/xR4UOxR67iVd2b4q7ZvI8+5pM4+n0bxAyYAa5 > vpPeBDSA/Et4kzc2B7rEImtcVJNllEeY29YcfQKnM4Cx/zAd3RSQmq5pZr4x5ql/ > vPS+1jC3Yrk4+4zz20yM78fzgzDeUGBzJ5b6fQxHG8go+b5/kF5wkxT4oSD3qjYL > fN33fNhVxlsRkwPi+ZcIxUhY7xMR4kgK2UzUFktIXcKJKcadETIpfYD1zwqoaIHo > WGDXNyXm5CdJ4lYHQTtgSydnti/A+kZ7P0onwfsGyAadz2l88AzyV4ReuH/a2vHN > Pk9ZXJNHZ6ss6YdX2fMQxOQ/9qNAPDQ7HyPRTWLNqHYVb5hVnGuB9T0zGmm0y5BP > 3RSOdM0p1GzRtk7cFWi3KC1BFxUFtGd8zpwcO4EwBNKSYXj1F0ZiqoO6AeRgFsu/ > 8Fnn4A6IUqp9SBFE7iw9 > =O2kI > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Base not starting
When I click on Base, nothing happens. Also, there is no File/Base or File/Database. What gives? Dave, Ubuntu 16.10 mate LO 5.2.2 -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paste Special order, Format Tabs
JBF, Thanks for the update. Yes, the bug reported seems to be the one I am referring to, though it would be good to have a picture to make sure. I do not have a Arc family of themes, and can wait until there is an official fix. It looks like the problem is Ubuntu/GTK, not LO. As for the Ctrl+Shift+V, it is too difficult to do on a lot of keyboards. A better solution is desired. Dave, On Thu, Nov 17, 2016, at 02:22 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > Le 16/11/2016 à 21:49, dave boland a écrit : > > Frank, > > > > Just upgraded to Ubuntu Mate 16.10. L.O. Version: 5.2.2.2 > > Build ID: 1:5.2.2-0ubuntu2 CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 4.8; UI > > Render: default; Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group. The theme is > > the default - no changes. > > Something like that bug : UI: Tab names unreadable in GTK3 in Ubuntu > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92776 > > Workaround: change the Ubuntu theme you are using for something else > like one of the Arc family. > > Paste special unformatted : in Writer you have Shift+Ctrl+Alt+V (see > menu Edition) > > Best regards. > JBF > > > -- > Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. > Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our > exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paste Special order, Format Tabs
Frank, Just upgraded to Ubuntu Mate 16.10. L.O. Version: 5.2.2.2 Build ID: 1:5.2.2-0ubuntu2 CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 4.8; UI Render: default; Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group. The theme is the default - no changes. As for Ctrl+Shift+V, it is difficult to do on many keyboards. Looking for an easier way to do this (less complaining). Thanks, Dave On Wed, Nov 16, 2016, at 03:07 PM, CVAlkan wrote: > Dave: > > Regarding the invisible names on tabs - can you let us know what > operating > system, etc. you are using and, if you are using any particular theme? > > Those things can all be relevant ... > > Frank > > P.S. I would upvote your suggestion about Paste Special but I just always > use keystrokes as a matter of habit (Ctrl+Shift+V; u) so it doesn't > bother > me that much. That should be posted as an enhancement request anyway. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Paste-Special-order-Format-Tabs-tp4199976p4200096.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Paste Special order, Format Tabs
Can the Paste Special order be changed? It is now HTML, Unformated text. I would like unformated text to be first to save time for people inputting data. When I click on Format to format a cell, the tab names are invisible until I run the mouse over them, and even then the current tab is still invisible. All else looks fine. Is this a bug, or should it be? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc macro tutorial
On Wed, May 11, 2016, at 04:18 PM, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: > > For most users, the recorder is a decent solution. > > As for support, do not expect that from MS unless you have a credit > card. I found some bugs in their C++ compiler about 15 years ago. 5 to > 10 years later I thought for sure they would have fixed them. Nope, I > had to work around them yet again. It had to do with their streaming > classes. There was a failure when the boundary was split by a > buffer read for some built-in text reading routines. Not like I could > just call MS and get support. I agree that their support also has issues, but the good thing is the number of printed resources available. Did I mention I like to read documentation? A number of years ago I completed a very large VB6 project. A month later MS announced the end of VB as we knew it. That is when I decided to go with open source where ever possible. I still feel that way, but sometimes it just does not work out. > For sure they have a better object layer for manipulating documents. > Not even close. I have never looked at their Macro programming > resources, but, if possible, be certain to use the .NET classes since > VBA is still littered with bugs. Last time I wrote a VBA application, > half my code was related to working around bugs in their language > implementation. These bugs initially existed in OpenOffice.org, but > were fixed years ago; for example, bugs related to determining an > arrays size in certain circumstances. I had to write special routines > to deal with these issues. Moving to the .NET versions made things > really nice, however, with full access to the .NET container classes. > If you have no particular need to run where MSO is not supported, not > a bad move. Good luck on your project. > > On 11.05.2016 08:42, dave boland wrote: >> Andrew, >> >> Thanks for the note. I actually do software development (Java right >> now) and enjoy reading documentation (no, not crazy - I've been >> tested). But when I read a document called "Getting Started With >> Macros", I reasonably expect it to cover the basics of how to create >> a macro from scratch - like I would with a VB program (did that for 6 >> years). I was disappointed to see that it was about using the macro >> recorder, which will not work for me. >> >> I get that the authors are volunteers, and that generally the do a >> fantastic job. However, in this area, not so much. >> >> I've decided that in the short term Calc (and Base) will not fit my >> needs (documentation, support concerns) and will move the data to >> Excel/Access. Not what I wan to do, and not what LO community should >> like, but it seems like the best course of action for this project. >> >> Dave, >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016, at 02:19 PM, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: >>> Dave, I am copying you directly since I do not know if the email >>> client I am currently using will copy to the list; sorry about that, >>> but I thought you might like my response faster than several hours >>> from now when I am using my standard email client. >>> On 10.05.2016 13:52, dave boland wrote: >>>> I want to automate a Calc spreadsheet to do some data analysis. I >>>> need some help finding a complete tutorial on Calc macros. Looking >>>> for something like the books published for Excell. >>> Not familiar with them >>>> I read the documentation, but it says user created macros are >>>> beyond the scope of the documentation. REALLY! What the heck is the >>>> documentation for then? >>> Done by volunteers and the documentation at which you looked was >>> beyond their scope. >>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1 >>> Chapter 12 specifically says “Macros” >>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch12-calc-macros/view >>> Chapter 13 contains numerous macro tutorials and examples (well, it >>> did when I wrote the first draft some years back) >>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch13-calc-as-simple-database/view >>> Or, try here: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php This site contains >>> numerous documents. You might want to look at these two documents. >>> The first is a book and the second is more of a list of macros that >>> accomplish certain tasks. It is kind of a roughly sorted brain dump. >>> http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt >>> http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt >>>> Tried the chat, wants to know what channel. What the heck is
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc macro tutorial
Andrew, Thanks for the note. I actually do software development (Java right now) and enjoy reading documentation (no, not crazy - I've been tested). But when I read a document called "Getting Started With Macros", I reasonably expect it to cover the basics of how to create a macro from scratch - like I would with a VB program (did that for 6 years). I was disappointed to see that it was about using the macro recorder, which will not work for me. I get that the authors are volunteers, and that generally the do a fantastic job. However, in this area, not so much. I've decided that in the short term Calc (and Base) will not fit my needs (documentation, support concerns) and will move the data to Excel/Access. Not what I wan to do, and not what LO community should like, but it seems like the best course of action for this project. Dave, On Tue, May 10, 2016, at 02:19 PM, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: > Dave, I am copying you directly since I do not know if the email > client I am currently using will copy to the list; sorry about that, > but I thought you might like my response faster than several hours > from now when I am using my standard email client. > On 10.05.2016 13:52, dave boland wrote: >> I want to automate a Calc spreadsheet to do some data analysis. I >> need some help finding a complete tutorial on Calc macros. Looking >> for something like the books published for Excell. > Not familiar with them >> I read the documentation, but it says user created macros are beyond >> the scope of the documentation. REALLY! What the heck is the >> documentation for then? > Done by volunteers and the documentation at which you looked was > beyond their scope. > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1 > Chapter 12 specifically says “Macros” > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch12-calc-macros/view > Chapter 13 contains numerous macro tutorials and examples (well, it > did when I wrote the first draft some years back) > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch13-calc-as-simple-database/view > Or, try here: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php This site contains > numerous documents. You might want to look at these two documents. The > first is a book and the second is more of a list of macros that > accomplish certain tasks. It is kind of a roughly sorted brain dump. > http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt > http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt >> Tried the chat, wants to know what channel. What the heck is that? > No idea. >> Tried the web version of this mail group, but it would not accept the >> catcha code. > Hate those! >> I'm growing frustrated and very angry. > Wait until you try to write macros. I mean, ummm, sorry you are > frustrated and angry. > LO Macros are very powerful in that they directly use the internal > object structure and it is easy to add support for other languages. > The disadvantage is that it has a steep learning curve, especially if > you do not already understand software development. I usually > recommend that people begin with an example that is close to what they > need. The general language structure is essentially identical, but, > for the most part, document manipulation methods is very different. >> This is supposed to be user support? > It is community support. You did not pay for the product and the > people who will now try to help you are all volunteers; they do it > because they like to help people as part of a community. > If you do not care for email type support, be sure to check out > this forum > https://forum.openoffice.org/en > They have some very competent Macro people hanging out in the > macro forums. > Best of luck! >> Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm > Andrew Pitonyak > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Calc macro tutorial
I want to automate a Calc spreadsheet to do some data analysis. I need some help finding a complete tutorial on Calc macros. Looking for something like the books published for Excell. I read the documentation, but it says user created macros are beyond the scope of the documentation. REALLY! What the heck is the documentation for then? Tried the chat, wants to know what channel. What the heck is that? Tried the web version of this mail group, but it would not accept the catcha code. I'm growing frustrated and very angry. This is supposed to be user support? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Sorting table (Writer) with months or days
Thanks Brian - very helpful! Dave, On Mon, Dec 28, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 00:35 28/12/2015 -0500, Dave Boland wrote: > >How do I get Writer to sort a table using a column with months > >(January, February, March, etc).) or days (Monday, Tuesday, > >Wednesday, etc.)? I know that if I change them to a numeric > >representation it will work, but that is not what I want to do. > > Sorry, but we don't know that you don't want to do this unless you > tell us exactly why - so I'm permitted to ignore that. > > There lots of ways to do this: > > o Go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Table | Input in > tables, and ensure "Number recognition" is ticked. > o Enter your data as genuine dates. > o Format your data using Table | Number Format...; choose Date under > Category and December under Format (or Format code for days). > Note that the appearance of your table is now exactly as you wanted it. > o Sort your values normally, using Numeric for "Key type". > > o Copy your table (text) data (or parts of it) to a spreadsheet. > o Sort the material in the spreadsheet. On the Options tab of the > Sort dialogue, tick "Custom sort order" and select > "January,February,March...". (Days are also available.) > o Copy the sorted material back to your table in Writer. > > o Copy your table (text) data (or parts of it) to a spreadsheet. > o Convert values there to genuine dates, using available functions. > o Sort the material in the spreadsheet (using normal numeric sort). > o Either freeze the date values back to text, using TEXT(), and copy > the results back into your Writer table, > o Or copy the date values back and format them appropriately there. > > There are probably more ... > > I trust this helps. > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Sorting table (Writer) with months or days
How do I get Writer to sort a table using a column with months (January, February, March, etc).) or days (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, etc.)? I know that if I change them to a numeric representation it will work, but that is not what I want to do. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Supress address2 field if blank
All, Thanks for the tips. Some thoughts: 1. All of the workarounds are a mess and in no way are a substitute for a feature (a simple check box to suppress blank fields) that MS Office has had since 98. Time to change this developers. 2. A even better link on the subject is: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Print_envelopes_from_db Dave, On Fri, Dec 11, 2015, at 05:35 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 11/12/2015 04:57, dave boland a écrit : > > Hi Dave, > > > > > I have a spreadsheet of Christmas card addresses to print envelopes. > > Everything works, except the address2 field - it prints a blank line if > > the field is blank. I was looking for a check box to suppress blank > > fields, but didn't find one. How do I do this? > > Hidden paragraph dependent on a NULL value of the corresponding DB field > ? > > This used to somewhere in the built-in help. > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Print_labels_from_db > > Under (d) - instructions are provided on how to hide paragraphs that > contain no db value. > > > Alex > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Supress address2 field if blank
I will check on that this weekend when I start batch 2 of the Christmas cards (yes, I'm a little nuts). Dave, On Fri, Dec 11, 2015, at 02:18 PM, Dave Liesse wrote: > Taking just a very quick look at this, I agree that there is no > *obvious* way in a label to suppress blank lines. If you use the Mail > Merge Wizard, though, the option is there. > > Not saying this is a solution; I was just looking because I knew I'd > seen it in there somewhere. Perhaps someone with the time to do so can > do a test with the wizard, look at the result, and see where it shows up > in the finished document. > > Dave Liesse > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Supress address2 field if blank
All, I have a spreadsheet of Christmas card addresses to print envelopes. Everything works, except the address2 field - it prints a blank line if the field is blank. I was looking for a check box to suppress blank fields, but didn't find one. How do I do this? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Importing pictures that are resized.
I'm creating some greeting cards using LO Draw templates I created a few years ago. The problem is that Draw gets the dimensions wrong. I start with a digital photo of about 3000 x 2000, resize it using GIMP to about 9" x 6", export as PNG or TIFF, and import into Draw. I the past, the size was correct, but now it is shown as being over 40" wide! I'm guessing that Draw assumes 72ppi, where I'm using 300 ppi. Could someone confirm this behaviour and let me know what I need to do? Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing pictures that are resized.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > dave boland schrieb: > > I'm creating some greeting cards using LO Draw templates I created a few > > years ago. The problem is that Draw gets the dimensions wrong. I start > > with a digital photo of about 3000 x 2000, resize it using GIMP to about > > 9" x 6" > > How do you resize it? Regina, I use GIMP Image Resize. Set the image to 300ppi, set the dimensions to inches, set the size to about 9"W x 6"H. Once that is don, I export. > > , export as PNG or TIFF, > > I don't know about Tiff, but in PNG you can enter the dpi to be used. > You can use IrfanView to set the dpi. I don't know whether Gimp has such > feature. I have heard some good things about IrfanView, but I use Linux, and it doesn't support Linux. > > and import into Draw. I the past, the > > size was correct, but now it is shown as being over 40" wide! I'm > > guessing that Draw assumes 72ppi, where I'm using 300 ppi. Could > > someone confirm this behaviour and let me know what I need to do? > > Click on the image. Then press F4 which opens the "Position & Size" > dialog (or any other way to open that dialog). Check the option "Keep > ratio" and enter the height or the width which you want for your image. This is what I do as well. The imported image size is over 40" wide! > > If you intend to use the image as background, then you can set its size > in the background dialog. This image is not a background. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Importing pictures that are resized.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Pedro wrote: > dave boland wrote > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: > >> Hi Dave, > >> > >> dave boland schrieb: > >> > I'm creating some greeting cards using LO Draw templates I created a > >> few > >> > years ago. The problem is that Draw gets the dimensions wrong. I > >> start > >> > with a digital photo of about 3000 x 2000, resize it using GIMP to > >> about > >> > 9" x 6" > >> > >> How do you resize it? > > > > Regina, I use GIMP Image Resize. Set the image to 300ppi, set the > > dimensions to inches, set the size to about 9"W x 6"H. Once that is > > don, I export. > > No problem doing the same with Gimp 2.8.16 and LibreOffice 5.4.0.1 under > Windows XP. Can you create an image file which illustrates the problem > and > share it ? Could be a bug in Draw under Linux only... Yes, I can get am image fairly soon, but how do I share it? I don't think they like attachments to the mail forum. Oh, I have GIMP 2.8.14, and LO version 5.0.2.2. The O.S. in Ubuntu 15.15. Let me see if I can get an upgrade done to both. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Importing pictures that are resized.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Pedro wrote: > dave boland wrote > > Yes, I can get am image fairly soon, but how do I share it? I don't > > think they like attachments to the mail forum. > > You have two ways: share it in an image sharing site like imgur.com or > register in Nabble and add an attachment to your next reply here > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Importing-pictures-that-are-resized-td4168604.html > > > dave boland wrote > > Oh, I have GIMP 2.8.14, > > and LO version 5.0.2.2. The O.S. in Ubuntu 15.15. Let me see if I can > > get an upgrade done to both. > > Maybe that is enough to solve the problem and there is no need to upload > the > image ;) The image link is http://imgur.com/JWdb7KN. I did upgrade LO and it is now 5.0.3.0. However, it still thinks the image is 46" wide. Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing pictures that are resized - O.E!
All, OOPS! In desperation, I went searching through the options to see if there was a resolution option in Draw. Didn't see one, but something else caught my eye. A few weeks ago I changed the scale factor to try to get more precision on the location of an image (ironically, in prep. for this task). I had changed it to 1:10. Once changed back to 1:1, all was fine. So I want to apologize for what is OE - operator error - and hope you will forgive me for being such a dunce! Dave, On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 01:38 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > dave boland schrieb: > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: > >> Hi Dave, > >> > >> dave boland schrieb: > >>> I'm creating some greeting cards using LO Draw templates I created a few > >>> years ago. The problem is that Draw gets the dimensions wrong. I start > >>> with a digital photo of about 3000 x 2000, resize it using GIMP to about > >>> 9" x 6" > >> > >> How do you resize it? > > > > Regina, I use GIMP Image Resize. Set the image to 300ppi, set the > > dimensions to inches, set the size to about 9"W x 6"H. Once that is > > don, I export. > > > >> > >> , export as PNG or TIFF, > >> > >> I don't know about Tiff, but in PNG you can enter the dpi to be used. > >> You can use IrfanView to set the dpi. I don't know whether Gimp has such > >> feature. > > I have tried it with one of my images. Gimp recalculates the pixels and > sets the dpi correctly into the png-file. When I insert the image in > Draw, then it has the correct size. I use Version: 5.2.0.0.alpha0+ > Build ID: 81fa5340191baf8687f9c82f1f414f5afc86b529 > Threads 4; Ver: Windows 6.1; Render: default; > TinderBox: Win-x86@62-merge-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-12-03_21:19:19 > Locale: de-DE (de_DE) > > > > > I have heard some good things about IrfanView, but I use Linux, and it > > doesn't support Linux. > > Yes it is a nice tool for viewing and converting. > > > > >> > >>and import into Draw. I the past, the > >>> size was correct, but now it is shown as being over 40" wide! I'm > >>> guessing that Draw assumes 72ppi, where I'm using 300 ppi. Could > >>> someone confirm this behaviour and let me know what I need to do? > >> > >> Click on the image. Then press F4 which opens the "Position & Size" > >> dialog (or any other way to open that dialog). Check the option "Keep > >> ratio" and enter the height or the width which you want for your image. > > > > This is what I do as well. The imported image size is over 40" wide! > > Not here. I get 9" width, same as set in Gimp. Do you use Insert > Image? > > Kind regards > Regina > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Importing pictures that are resized.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 01:04 PM, James E. Lang wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: dave boland <dbola...@fastmail.fm> > To: Pedro <pedl...@gmail.com>, LibreOffice <users@global.libreoffice.org> > Sent: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 9:39 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Importing pictures that are resized. > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Pedro wrote: > > dave boland wrote > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: > > >> Hi Dave, > > >> > > >> dave boland schrieb: > > -->8= > > Oh, I have GIMP 2.8.14, > and LO version 5.0.2.2. The O.S. in Ubuntu 15.15. > > [Ubuntu 15.10? Ubuntu tags its distributions with year.month with releases in April and October. Thus 15.10 is the October, 2015 version. -- jl] > > -- > Jim Oops! That was a typo. It is 15.10 - the October release. Sorry!! Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: precision of Draw dimensions - 3 place
Actually, all I'm doing is laying out a greeting card. The print shop needs 1/8" margins, and I'm a stickler for detail. I agree that Scribus or a CAD program has more flexibility, but I like LO. Seems like the consensus is that my suggestion is possible, but will have to wait for funding. Makes sense. Dave On Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: > Dave, > Depending on what you are going to draw; if anything either technical or > building/cottage then you can try either ProgeCAD Smart 2009 or > Draftsight, both have free versions that are fully functional 2D CAD > programs for private use only. > Especially Draftsight is quite easy to learn. > Download from their own homepage. > Pertti Rönnberg > > > On 19.11.2015 17:33, Ken Springer wrote: > > On 11/19/15 6:20 AM, dave boland wrote: > >> Thanks all. If I make a suggestion to LO - add some more CAD abilities > >> to Draw such as higher precision. LOD is a very useful program, and > >> could be even more useful. > > > > This is a always what happens to good software, be it FOSS, > > commercial, shareware, whatever. Developers keep adding features > > until it becomes bloated, buggy, and slow. > > > > Then users complain about it being bloated, buggy, and slow. > > > > If you need that type of precision for your project, maybe LO isn't > > the correct software. > > > > My suggestion would be to try page layout software and a basic > > CAD/drawing program. Do your drawing (I'm assuming you need to do > > more than just a line) then input the drawing into the page layout > > software where you'll have so much better options for layout than you > > ever will in LO. > > > > FWIW, I've yet to see any word processing that has more than 2 decimal > > places for spacing. > > > > Also, if you want truly good looking text, use page layout software > > and a quality font. I've yet to see a word processor that does > > kerning. Word processors do character spacing, which is not the same. > > Document processors do kerning, AFAIK. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] precision of Draw dimensions - 3 place
Thanks all. If I make a suggestion to LO - add some more CAD abilities to Draw such as higher precision. LOD is a very useful program, and could be even more useful. Dave, On Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 04:52 AM, Mike Scott wrote: > On 18/11/15 21:52, dave boland wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 02:13 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > >> At 13:48 18/11/2015 -0500, Dave Boland wrote: > >>> I want to locate a line 1/8-inch (0.125") from the margin. LOD > >>> truncates that to 0.13". Is there a way to get 3-places? > >> > >> Is that LOD as distinct from LOW, LOC, LOI, LOB, etc.? > >> > >> o Go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Draw | General | Scale. > >> o Set "Drawing scale" to 1:10. > >> o Locate your line at 1.25". > >> > >> I trust this helps. > > > > Nope. The line is set to 0.13" from the margin. > > Looks like this is a long-standing unfixed issue: > > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11=9688 > (from 2008) > > If you work in mm, the 2 decimal places the GUI so unreasonably forces > will give a precision of 10μm. Not altogether convenient for the > "traditionally minded" among us though :-) > > > -- > Mike Scott (unet2 [deletethis] scottsonline.org.uk) > Harlow Essex England > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] precision of Draw dimensions - 3 place
All, I want to locate a line 1/8-inch (0.125") from the margin. LOD truncates that to 0.13". Is there a way to get 3-places? Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] precision of Draw dimensions - 3 place
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 02:13 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 13:48 18/11/2015 -0500, Dave Boland wrote: > >I want to locate a line 1/8-inch (0.125") from the margin. LOD > >truncates that to 0.13". Is there a way to get 3-places? > > Is that LOD as distinct from LOW, LOC, LOI, LOB, etc.? > > o Go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Draw | General | Scale. > o Set "Drawing scale" to 1:10. > o Locate your line at 1.25". > > I trust this helps. Nope. The line is set to 0.13" from the margin. Dave, > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How close Template mgr, where templates stored?
Graham, I have no buton on the right, and to get to the drop down on the left I have to right click in the title bar. Ubuntu Mate 15.04, Libreoffice 5.0. Dave, On Wed, Sep 23, 2015, at 02:53 AM, Graham Luffrum wrote: > Dave > > Under both LO 5.0.2.2 and 4.4.4.3 on my system (32 bit Linux Mint 17.2) > there is a close button on the top right-hand side of the Template > Manager > window as well as a drop-down menu on the top left-hand side, which > includes "Close". > > Graham > > > On 23 September 2015 at 07:08, dave boland <dbola...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > After some playing around, and some googling, all is resolved. To close > > the Template manager, click on the title bar, then right click for the > > close menu. Still, there is no excuse for not having a Close button. > > > > The template location is .config/libreoffice/4/user/template. This > > assumes you have created a template. Else, the template folder will not > > exist. > > > > Dave, > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015, at 01:00 AM, Tim Lloyd wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > using Fedora and LO 5.0.1.2 it looks like you simply toggle between > > > displays. EG. click on templates to look at your templates then click on > > > (eg) "recent files" to view your files. > > > > > > I have to say though I don't know where the templates live. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > On 23/09/15 13:29, dave boland wrote: > > > > How do I close the Template Manager window? I opened it to see if a > > > > template I use was installed, and it was not. So how do I close the > > > > window? Why is there no Close button!! > > > > > > > > Where are the templates stored? I have some templates from the 4.2 > > ver. > > > > and a previous Linux install. I need to know where to look in the > > > > backup to find the templates I created, and where to put them in this > > > > install. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > > Problems? > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > deleted > > > > > -- > > dave boland > > dbola...@fastmail.fm > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How close Template mgr, where templates stored?
How do I close the Template Manager window? I opened it to see if a template I use was installed, and it was not. So how do I close the window? Why is there no Close button!! Where are the templates stored? I have some templates from the 4.2 ver. and a previous Linux install. I need to know where to look in the backup to find the templates I created, and where to put them in this install. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How close Template mgr, where templates stored?
Tim, After some playing around, and some googling, all is resolved. To close the Template manager, click on the title bar, then right click for the close menu. Still, there is no excuse for not having a Close button. The template location is .config/libreoffice/4/user/template. This assumes you have created a template. Else, the template folder will not exist. Dave, On Wed, Sep 23, 2015, at 01:00 AM, Tim Lloyd wrote: > Hi Dave, > > using Fedora and LO 5.0.1.2 it looks like you simply toggle between > displays. EG. click on templates to look at your templates then click on > (eg) "recent files" to view your files. > > I have to say though I don't know where the templates live. > > Cheers > > On 23/09/15 13:29, dave boland wrote: > > How do I close the Template Manager window? I opened it to see if a > > template I use was installed, and it was not. So how do I close the > > window? Why is there no Close button!! > > > > Where are the templates stored? I have some templates from the 4.2 ver. > > and a previous Linux install. I need to know where to look in the > > backup to find the templates I created, and where to put them in this > > install. > > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
Did not know that. Thanks! Dave, -- “Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.” ― Steve Martin On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 04:26 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 15:03 14/09/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: > >I tend to write things in the margins to clarify a point, or an > >example, etc. Tough to do that with the PDF version. > > No, it's very easy. The security properties of the PDF manuals say > "Commenting: Allowed" and a suitable viewer (even my freeware Adobe > Reader) will allow addition of notes, comments, sticky notes, stamps, > even audio, as well as formatting such as highlighting. Just what you > need. > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 03:50 PM, Dave Barton wrote: > Original Message > From: Dave Boland > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:03:39 -0400 > > > Soft felt tip pens are not so damaging :-)) Hey, there's an idea! > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > then you can add all the notes you want. Maybe you could even finish up > contributing your edits to the doc project. :) Yes? Will definitely consider this. > > In addition to the above, the main reason for the delay in docs for > version 5 is the tiny number of (overworked) people working on them. Isn't that always the case? Speaking as an engineer, the documentation is my version of latrine duty - no fun! It's like they used to say at Charmin "No job is finished until the paper work is done" We > have been very fortunate to have the "Base Handbook" for 5 near > completion, thanks to the German language project (mainly Robert > Großkopf), who not only created the original, but also did most of the > "heavy lifting" translating it into English. > > The short answer to your question is that the 5 docs are not much more > that a dot on the horizon, so go with the 4.2 docs for now. I'll give it a try - thanks! Dave, -- I never know where the line is until AFTER I crossed it! -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
All, Does anyone know when the LO 5 documentation will be available? If not, or if it may be awhile, would it be worth going to the bother of printing the 4.2 docs for Calc and Base? I know there are changes to Calc, but my guess is that the 4.2 docs may still be worth printing if it will be a while. Don't know about Base. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
Brian, Well, I tried that. The problem was all the marks and words I made on the monitor (crib notes) - they ruined my monitor :-)) . Actually, that is the point. I tend to write things in the margins to clarify a point, or an example, etc. Tough to do that with the PDF version. In any event, the Ver. 5 docs. are not out yet, so we come back to my question - how close are the 4.2 docs? I looked at the change log, but I never get a good feel for the changes until I start using something. In the case of Calc, the changes to areas I need seem to be minor. Dave -- The world is my coloring book; I just can't stay within the lines. On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 02:50 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 13:58 14/09/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: > >... would it be worth going to the bother of printing the 4.2 docs > >for Calc and Base? > > Why print them? Do you have access to a computer? If so, you can > search the documentation and read it on your display! > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Restoring default menus and tool bars
Josh, This is a new install, so there was nothing in the profile that really mattered. Otherwise, I completely agree with your comments. Dave, On Wed, Aug 26, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) On Ubuntu 12.04 and LO 3.5.4 i followed the advice for Windows but instead of having a tick-box or such-like i had to use the Modify button and then Delete was about the bottom choice. So Josh's advice worked well enough for me. Only thing was that after getting rid of the Save and Save As buttons they were still there, even after closing and reopening LO. Also my LO doesn't show the Save As button, just the Save one. Errr, it is usually better to rename the User Profile than delete it. That way you can copy chunks of it (or even the whole of it) back to restore almost anything you might have set-up such as templates, art in the LO gallery etc Regards from Tom :) On 26 August 2015 at 17:21, Josh Rose joshrichardr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, I'm on Windows, not Ubuntu, but if you right-click the menu toolbar (or select View Toolbars Customize from the menu) it will open a window where you can check and uncheck the icons you want in each toolbar. There is also a Reset button there that will put all the default icons back in your toolbar. Hope that helps! Best, Josh *JOSH ROSE* phone: 972.762.1810 callto:415-526-2339 twitter: @Cosmosis http://twitter.com/postbox web: www.cosmocomics.net https://www.postbox-inc.com dave boland mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm Wednesday, August 26, 2015 10:57 AM All, I made a boo boo trying to figure out how to remove the Save As icon (not the most intuitive process). Now things are messed up. I read that if I delete the profile, that the defaults would be restored. Tried, didn't happen. Guess the menus and tool bar options are stored somewhere else. So my questions are: 1. How do I restore the defaults? 2. How do I get rid of the Save As icon as it is not needed, and confusing (steps 1, 2, 3, ...)? OS: Ubuntu Mate 15.04 LO: ver 5.0 Thanks, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org[1] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Links: 1. mailto:users%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Restoring default menus and tool bars
All, I made a boo boo trying to figure out how to remove the Save As icon (not the most intuitive process). Now things are messed up. I read that if I delete the profile, that the defaults would be restored. Tried, didn't happen. Guess the menus and tool bar options are stored somewhere else. So my questions are: 1. How do I restore the defaults? 2. How do I get rid of the Save As icon as it is not needed, and confusing (steps 1, 2, 3, ...)? OS: Ubuntu Mate 15.04 LO: ver 5.0 Thanks, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Restoring default menus and tool bars
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 11:57 26/08/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: I made a boo boo trying to figure out how to remove the Save As icon (not the most intuitive process). Now things are messed up. I read that if I delete the profile, that the defaults would be restored. Tried, didn't happen. Guess the menus and tool bar options are stored somewhere else. So my questions are: How do I restore the defaults? If this is not stored in the user profile then it would have to be saved per installation, which surprises me. Are you sure you closed LibreOffice and the Quickstarter before deleting the profile? Yes Brian. I even checked the system monitor to insure anything LO or Quick... was not running. Went back and deleted the profile. Reopened LO Calc, and the menus/tool bars are still messed up. -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Restoring default menus and tool bars
Mystery solved! After Googling a little more, I found this nugget: http://ccm.net/faq/24703-libreoffice-calc-reset-settings-to-default I did fail to mention that I was working with Calc at the time - sorry So, when I'm done, I'll follow the advice given to rid the tool bar of the Save As icon. Thanks all! Dave, On Wed, Aug 26, 2015, at 11:57 AM, dave boland wrote: All, I made a boo boo trying to figure out how to remove the Save As icon (not the most intuitive process). Now things are messed up. I read that if I delete the profile, that the defaults would be restored. Tried, didn't happen. Guess the menus and tool bar options are stored somewhere else. So my questions are: 1. How do I restore the defaults? 2. How do I get rid of the Save As icon as it is not needed, and confusing (steps 1, 2, 3, ...)? OS: Ubuntu Mate 15.04 LO: ver 5.0 Thanks, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Support options
On 01/15/2015 02:11 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 01/15/2015 12:07 PM, dave boland wrote: The problem with gmane.org is that I can't seem to append to a thread. I can follow the thread, so it is somewhat helpful. What are you using to access gmane? It probably relates more to what you are using to access gmane than gmane itself. I use Thunderbird. Once I subscribe to a group on gmane it asks me how many messages to download and marks the remaining as read. Once downloaded I can choose what I want to view, all msgs, just unread msgs or threads with unread msgs, plus some others I don't use. If I want to respond to a msg I can choose followup which sends the reply to the group or replY which sends it to the message's author. What is easy and convenient? I thought I answered that. Quick to do, no reistration, no passwords, able to see the appends in a thred like newsgroups do, the abbility to append to a thread. I have lost track of all the user id's and passwords for support web sites. I just won't use them any longer. I think gmane with the right reader will do all of these. So if the LO team can make facebook easy to find relevant info, quick to use, intuitive, no passwords or registration, then go for it. If on the other hand they are just following the latest thing, then forget it. In the end, the support solution needs to fit the users needs, not just be cool. I agree. If facebook and twitter where the only options I would be far out of date with what is happening with LO. Regards, Jim Hopefully the chantges you suggested work. Dave, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Support options
The problem with gmane.org is that I can't seem to append to a thread. I can follow the thread, so it is somewhat helpful. What is easy and convenient? I thought I answered that. Quick to do, no reistration, no passwords, able to see the appends in a thred like newsgroups do, the abbility to append to a thread. I have lost track of all the user id's and passwords for support web sites. I just won't use them any longer. So if the LO team can make facebook easy to find relevant info, quick to use, intuitive, no passwords or registration, then go for it. If on the other hand they are just following the latest thing, then forget it. In the end, the support solution needs to fit the users needs, not just be cool. Dave, On Thu, Jan 15, 2015, at 02:44 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Le Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:40:03 +, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/01/15 21:49, dave boland wrote: Can't we find a way to offer support that is easy and convenient? What do you consider to be _easy_ and _convenient_? that new groups are considered old fashioned, but they work very well, If new groups is a typo for newsgroups, then gmane.org is what you are looking for. If new groups means something else, then clarify what is meant. Just to be abundantly clear: this list alongside other lists of LibreOffice.org are available as newsgroups on gmane.org Best, - -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIVAwUBVLdvw36ia1m3mLTjAQLkIQ/+O1ngQJv8A8GXcKI2dhFvPhfJz+eqR5Aq klmRqGApOxZbt/sLf9sY8DHz7G5TbYilaISaW6nUaX3YqMg4GJynh67wk9qutFew sLT8kXFzaHX4uWkhygKyKm647lZwbGZm5nRXfIy6wQXqz9RDQxyVN/V018fad6eG fSrOORTKmQLHv1K6xLZiEKG6IDjITJ3RyW7r7ia8ApjsOjtzvqoI20isn38tNCFm LC0Mu6E3i1jV6QVSiq+TJmZoh0lnFw9IjG+Kk7BHcuzPdZb9Py/wi15VkpHN7SXV dWdeJY8vE+6fCIWK+U2ngGKiUGuF6ZLaRt7Wi63Ea1BKodv2HBRre8QCrPqwu8tv jnC2LR+qHjRBLFkYXd/+lYkhWf7kbvYpJNsWaKCu6cQql3cn5f7Sv2/tYooe8DN4 pfdEG/5ZcMU9tymHXDhYTZYw/5/fFYQtA50CDg/GDeBxkYJefjfQdsKxqELsw3x7 q5YOMDKZjbtOV1D/RXLV9ZWfNCamtcG4vH3b/8R3QQqEvrnFDxrTH1s+BmuiR03K WIQZIiVgc1KT4weSMb+0LpBu3MOxZL2D350nOZn8gfv2lBlv2420ABlLdgJu4Pc1 uTSLtp+H5vz/av/qrqY30CMl2Sh0ffCVZdUhpdPFY3ioB+uwNXNWDmZ0BDl1UCnL Xwp/KuNtzjI= =byES -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Support options
All, I'm more than a little frustrated/angry at the support options for LO. The choice seems to be between: * A web interface that requires a log on to yet another service I don't have or want to have. * A Nabble interface that requires registration and one of those damn captia codes that NEVER work. * An e-mail interface that clogs my reader. Can't we find a way to offer support that is easy and convenient? I get that new groups are considered old fashioned, but they work very well, and are easy to use (even by kids on cell phones). Open to suggestions, but I don't think moving to the next hot thing is the answer unless it is easy to use. My 2 cents anyway. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] date line for Calc Gantt charts
All, I use Calc to do a quick Gantt chart (it is easy if the data is simple). The problem I'm having is the dates on the X-Axis. What I want is this: | | | | | | | ...| 01/15 01/15 03/15 04/15 05/15 06/15 07/15 12/15 What I get is something like this: | | | | | | 01//01/15 01/30/15 02/04/15 03/02/15 03/30/15 04/02/15 Seems the dates reflect the start dates and duration of the data. I played with all of the controls, but could not find a way to do what I want. Any suggestions (besides a Gantt Chart program)? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [Twitter] Opening a new user support channel
When it comes to online support, What I'm looking for are: * Registration not needed. News groups pass this test. * e-mail not used so my mailbox doesn't get clogged up. News groups pass this test. * Information well organized by thread/subject. News groups pass this test. * Sorting by date, subject. News groups pass this test. * History - appends go back some time. News groups pass this test. * No cutesy crap. I don't need to see your picture, or the names of your pets. News groups pass this test. * Fast. I have a problem and I want the solution now - not when a web based crap fest wants to reload. News groups pass this test. * Answers. I want a good answer with some detail, not a retort from a Google Monkey. News groups need improvement on this one. * On subject, no flames or trolls. News groups fail this test. So, if social media can meet/excede what I'm looking for, then do it. If it is a case of going with the latest Internet toy, then stop and rethink. Whatever is popular now, won't be 10 years from now, so think long term. One other thought. DON'T go down the age/generation road. It is a dead end that will only bite you on the ass. Look at all the stores, TV showes, ect. that are always trying to appealy to (mostly) the young. It ends badly in most cases. So be very inclusive. Dave, On Thu, Dec 11, 2014, at 02:59 PM, jonathon wrote: On 10/12/14 15:27, Dave Boland wrote: May I ask what is wrong with a traditional news group? For an individual looking for interactive support on the Internet, their preferred means of support depends upon how they discovered the Internet: * if using *Nix, it is newsgroups; * if with another CLI, it is email; * if with a GUI, it is web forums; * if with a mobile device, it is social networking sites; Interactive support supplements, and is supplement by: * hard copy documentation; * PDFs/eBooks of the hard copy documentation; * Comprehensive wikis; * PDFs/eBooks of the wiki; Currently, Libreoffice support is available for: * Newsgroups: GMane; * email: users@Global.LibreOffice.org et al; * Web forums: LibreOfficeForum.org; * Social Networking: Twitter, Facebook, Google +, etc; * Hard copy documentation; * PDF / ePub of the hard copy documentation; * https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page; * Ready made PDFs of the help.libreoffice.org are not available; I'm not convinced that the depth of the documentation --- online, eBook, Hard copy --- is at the point that social network support will be better than barely adequate. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [Twitter] Opening a new user support channel
Charles, May I ask what is wrong with a traditional news group? They work very well, don't clog my e-mail (like this does), and are used by some open source projects like Mozilla. Seems like a news group would have been the best choice for support. As for Twitter, Facebook, etc., forget it - not interested in registering for yet another new thing that offers no real benefit over a news group. Dave, On Wed, Dec 10, 2014, at 06:17 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, As you know we provide several options when it comes to users support. There is: - the mailing lists (this one is in English but others exist for other languages) - the forum that is really the Nabble interface to the mailing list - the ask.libreoffice.org website - IRC channel Beside these options, we have more informal channels. Aside forums that are not affiliated with the project, there is our Google + community where users support actually works pretty well; and then we have questions and users requests coming from our Facebook page and Twitter account. While it is a bit unclear what we could do with Facebook at this stage, we are seriously thinking about opening a new twitter account only dedicated to users support. So far one volunteer offered his help, but it's better if we can start with 2-3 volunteers and see where it takes us. If anyone here is interested in joining this effort, please raise your hand here or let me know off list. Thanks! Charles. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Export to PDF wiith CMYK
All, I'm doing a Christmas card in LO Draw (I created the templates a few years ago, easy to use...). The print shop that I normally use says that you can use RGB, which is the normal PDF export, but CMYK is much better. So I'm looking for a simple, straight forward way of doing this that runs under Linux. Any suggestions? I'm told that Scribus can import LO files, and do CMYK, but I'm in a time crunch and really don't want to have to learn a new program. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Finding hidden Draw objects
All, I did a drawing using Draw, then exported to PDF. The PDF had some extraneous objects in it, so I was trying to figure out where they came from. The first step is to see if there are any objects that are hidden (behind something else, or a color the same as the background, etc.) in the source drawing. How do I do that? Select All doesn't seem to help. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Finding hidden Draw objects
All, Thanks for the ideas. Unfortunately none of the ideas revealed the extranous line that ended up in the pdf file. I like the idea of the Navigator, but as is, it is worthless. What needs to happen is that when an object is clicked in Navigator, it is selected in the editor so it can be seen. A description would also be nice (name if available, shape, location, size). Of course there is also the possibility that the pdf conversion process is flawed and that the extranous line does not really exist. Dave, On Tue, Sep 9, 2014, at 07:39 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 19:56 09/09/2014 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: On 9 September 2014 14:58, Dave Boland wrote: I did a drawing using Draw, then exported to PDF. The PDF had some extraneous objects in it, so I was trying to figure out where they came from. The first step is to see if there are any objects that are hidden (behind something else, or a color the same as the background, etc.) in the source drawing. How do I do that? Select All doesn't seem to help. Perhaps; 1. create a copy of the file 2. rename the file-ending from .ods to .zip 3. open with an archive-manager (on GnuLinux you might be able to skip step 2 but if not then just double-clicking on the .zip should open it) 4. inside the zipfile is a folder called something like images. 5. open each image in turn until you find the bad ones and delete them But these are (presumably) Draw objects, not images. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_quotes.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer
Thanks! I got it to work playing with Tools/Outline Numbering. Not the most intuitive choice (Format/Bullets Numbering would be more likely), but it works and I'm happy. Thanks again! Dave, On Mon, Aug 25, 2014, at 11:30 PM, dave boland wrote: How is this done? I have another document that needs this type of numbering, so I used F11, went to Heading 1, Modify, but could not find a way to go from 1. to 1.0. Same deal with Heading 2 - how do I chage the style so it goes from 1. to (for example) 1.1 or 2.1 etc. I looked at the help section, but it was obviously not helpful enough (for me). Thanks! Dave On Thu, Aug 14, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: Yes, got caught again by that damn list problem. Well, I would say that earlier version of MS Office (i.e. any time up to 2003) had very usable styles, but maybe that is a matter of taste. I had to do the very thing the original questioner asked about in MS Office 2010 a couple of weeks ago and it was a lot harder than in LibreOffice. But the general answer for any modern office suite is to do it with styles. Regards, On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I think Styles often get ignored by beginners because in MS Office they are more of a hindrance than a useful tool. In LibreOffice they are really useful though so it's good to introduce people to them at the slightest excuse. I was hoping your message would go to the whole mailing list but it only came to me :( I think it would really help the couple of new people that have joined recently. Regards from Tom :) On 14 August 2014 13:44, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I always keep the Styles and Formatting window open and anchored to the left of the screen, so I would just access the List styles there. Regards, On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) From the Format menu, the icon-toolbar or the F11, Styles, extra menu or somewhere else? Regards from Tom :) On 14 August 2014 00:43, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I do it using a List style. Regards On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline 1.0 Head 1 1.1 Head 2 1.2 Head 2 1.2.1 Head 3 2.0 Head 1 Can't find how to do it in 4.1.3.2 Any ideas? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien Facebook is Evil. Cancel your account. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien Facebook is Evil. Cancel your account. -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien Facebook is Evil. Cancel your account. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request for Calc - input forms and reports
The problems with the built-in data input form are that it is slow, and won't work with large spreadsheets (won't display all of the columns). Thus, a better input data form is needed. A custom user-created form is the best idea. Dave, On Thu, Aug 21, 2014, at 03:39 PM, m.a.riosv wrote: If I am not wrong this extension was incorporated in calc, being accessible in Menu/Data/Form. Miguel Ángel. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Feature-Request-for-Calc-input-forms-and-reports-tp4119629p4119780.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Feature Request for Calc - input forms and reports
All, Spreadsheets are wonderful applications for financial analysis and collections of information. We use Calc to store information about the tools in my tool chest, items in the pantry, and I know a lady that uses a spreadsheet for the shoes in her closet. Basically, Calc is being used as a flat-file database, which spreadsheets do well and they are easy to understand. Calc offers the ability to sort and to filter, which is really a type of query. What Calc doesn't offer though is the ability to have input forms and reports. Consider a spreadsheet for the tools in a tool chest. It may have the following fields (columns): ChestNumber, DrawerNumber, SectionNumber, ToolName, ToolDesc, Comment. On sheet 2 there are columns for verification for ChestNumber, DrawerNumber, SectionNumber and ToolName. It would be nice if a custom data input form could be created like is done with Base, though a little easier to create. It would also be nice if there was a report function so I can have a printout of all of my tools. The report may look something like this: Title: Tool Chest Contents Report Date: 8/20/14 Chest Drawer Section Tool NameTool Description/Comment - -- --- --- --- 1 3 1Combination wrenches Wrench sizes: 3mm-33mm 7mm wrench missing Notice that the Comment field has been placed under the Description field. This is commonly done in database reports because most records don't have comments, so there is not much need for a separate column. So, yes, I'm asking for more database features in Calc. However, simple databases are a very common use for spreadsheets, so why not embrace the situation with more functionality? Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc data in Writer
Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried a number of things, and the bottom line is that LO makes a simple task a real pain in the ass. Many people keep lists of things in spreadsheets - CD's, photos, tools in a tool box, contents in the pantry, toys in the toy box, etc. At some time you may want an easy way to basically print out a formatted report based on the spreadsheet data. There is no easy way in LO. That fact needs to change. I found that using the report functions of Base came the closest to doing what I want, but doing a custom report is not easy for the casual user. My suggestion is to either beef up Writer, or build reports into Calc. Make them easy to understand and easy to create. Dave, On Tue, Aug 19, 2014, at 09:38 AM, dave boland wrote: All, Thanks for the replies - I think. First, you can't do this with cut and paste because the formatting is just columns. This is (hint) like a database report where the comment field is placed under the description field (see below). The fields in the spreadsheet are: Date, Sender, Subject, Description, Comment. What I want is to have all records printed on one page (or two if needed), not one record per page like mail merge typically does. Writer has data sources, and you can select fields, I just have not figured out how to fill the fields so they are printed like below (one record after the other). However, I believe it is possible to use Base to create the report I want. I'll investigate that approach later today. Any other helpful suggestions welcome. Dave, On Mon, Aug 18, 2014, at 11:17 AM, dave boland wrote: All, I have a small Calc file of information I want to put into Writer - like mail merge, but the data is not address. What is the best way to do this? The data is actually: Date, Sender, Subject, Description, Comment. Waht I want to do is something like this: Date Sender Subject Description/Comment 1/15/14 Mr. Black Order Conf. Confirmed the order. Will be able to ship by 2/1/14 1/16/14 (me) Ship date Shipping date 1/30, UPS 2/1/14 Mr. Black Order Rec'd. Order was delivered. Customer called to thnak us! Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Calc data in Writer
All, I have a small Calc file of information I want to put into Writer - like mail merge, but the data is not address. What is the best way to do this? The data is actually: Date, Sender, Subject, Description, Comment. Waht I want to do is something like this: Date Sender Subject Description/Comment 1/15/14 Mr. Black Order Conf. Confirmed the order. Will be able to ship by 2/1/14 1/16/14 (me) Ship date Shipping date 1/30, UPS 2/1/14 Mr. Black Order Rec'd. Order was delivered. Customer called to thnak us! Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer
Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline 1.0 Head 1 1.1 Head 2 1.2 Head 2 1.2.1 Head 3 2.0 Head 1 Can't find how to do it in 4.1.3.2 Any ideas? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Schema in Calc
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Paul wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:45:20 +0200 Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 31/07/2014 00:08, Paul a écrit : Just out of interest, why would a db driver come into play? This is a spreadsheet we're talking about. The mention of db schema was merely to ask why Calc doesn't have something like it. How else would one obtain the schema in the first place ? I believe one of us is misunderstanding things. My understanding is that the OP didn't actually want a database schema, he just wanted something similar for normal spreadsheets. Actually, the OP (me) started with Calc database because changes are easy. Changes are still under way (field names, new fields, etc.), so I'm using Base to access Calc, which gives me queries. The next step is a real db, but I'm still sorting that out. I'm not interested in RAM-resident, embedded for reasons pointed out in this thread. As the db requirements become more clear (size, number of users, structure), I'll decide. Could it be a future version of Base? Possibly, depending on how it progresses over the rest of the year. I'm looking for robust, good performance, reliable, and stright forward setup (not necessarly easy, but not requiring a db phd). Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions
How does switching to Firebird solve the issue of an embedded, all in memory database? I would be happy if LO offered an option (when creating a db) to use embedded model or the split model. Dave, On Mon, Aug 4, 2014, at 03:27 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 01/08/2014 12:55, Wolfgang Keller a écrit : I never understood why anyone halfway sane in their minds would use an embedded database anyway or why the developers of StarOffice/LO/OO even considered it. As I recall, at the time of the release of OpenOffice2, it had to be like Access - but of course, as Sun was mainly running the show, that meant that it had to be multi-OS, thus Java based and a fairly simple, drop-in piece of code with an appropriate licence. One would do well to remember that at the time, the internal Sun Base development team only comprised about 3 members of staff working full-time on the project, thus resources were painfully limited. It turned out to be not so simple after all, but that can be said about many things in software development. The issue of performance was raised even back then, and remains with us today - embedded Java bridging (via UNO JNI) of an in-memory database - loads of things to go potentially wrong at any given instance in the lifecycle of the application, notwithstanding that upgrading to newer versions of the db has always been fraught with complications, so a maintenance nightmare for OOo/AOO/LO developers. It can be done though, Fred Toussi (one of the lead developers on the hsqldb project) has, I believe, provided patches for the integration of an update to the hsqldb version code, but these have not been integrated due to the decision to move to Firebird. Database noobs wanted Access-like functionality and portability and multi-OS operation - the fact that they don't really get that today with LibreOffice Base is due more to lack of functional implementation/integration witn the other parts of LibreOffice than to the type of underlying db. Even MS Access has moved to a separated db/frontend paradigm, as far as I understand. Just to put things in perspective, there are, to my knowledge, currently no full/part time paid-to-work developers within the LibreOffice project that work on Base - everything done is voluntary, spare/free time involvement, so it is hardly surprising that things with Base move a little more slowly than modules such as Writer and Calc, in fact, it is my undestanding that the main voluntary developer spends most of his time in the project undoing the bugs/regressions caused by ongoing code development elsewhere within the LibreOffice project. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014, at 09:10 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Le 04/08/2014 14:51, dave boland a écrit : How does switching to Firebird solve the issue of an embedded, all in memory database? I would be happy if LO offered an option (when creating a db) to use embedded model or the split model. Any embedded DB engine (HSQL or Firebird or any other) won't solve the Base [R]DBMS embedding problems. Only external DB engines can be reliable. Using an external DBMS is up to you. Base/LibO can be setup accordingly. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux That is my point. That is why Base needs to make setting up an external db easy - like when the db is being created. Check one box for the embedded model, another for the split/external model. Appropriate Help infornation will be needed. While they are at it, how about an option to do mariadb or mysql external db instead of just HSQL or Firebird? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 04/08/2014 16:41, Paul D. Mirowsky a écrit : Before I begin, I will plead ignorance of how these things really happen. It appears that what should be happening is that the database should always be external, but whether it is placed inside the same folder. To the user, the interpretation of 'internal' would be that it is within it's own folder and 'external' would be that the actual database is somewhere else during set-up. The default Base file, with an ODB extension, is a container (zipped). Within that container are files and subfolders, some files describe the structure and content of the database in a form that LibreOffice's embedded hsqldb engine can read when you load the file. The subfolders generally relate to other aspects of the ODB file, such as macros, forms, reports, report definitions (XML), query definitions, etc) When you reference an outside db backend, everything but the actual database content and data defintitions get stored in the ODB file, with simply a reference to that content and how to access it being stored in the ODB. In other words, your data is actually safe somewhere else (on a server, on another part of your hard disk, etc) Utimately, for as long your actual database data is somewhere else, you could screw up your ODB file and still not affect your data. However, you would potentially lose all of your query/report definitions, your macros, forms, etc. Note that forms do not have to be stored within the ODB, they can be stored as standalone documents. The same goes for reports, although the report definitions are always stored within the ODB file (unless someone has found a way to get around that). Alex I'm getting a little confused. My understanding is that there are really two issues here. One is that LO Base is RAM resident - all updates are held in RAM until saved by the user, or the program is closed. Correct? If so, this situation will expose the user to data loss between saves. The other issue is that LO Base uses an embedded database, which means that the data files and the GUI, reports, etc. are combined into one file that can be corrupted. The suggestion is to use a split system where the data files are separate from the other files. Correct? If so, at best, the data may be a little safer, but forms, queries, etc. can still be corrupted. A database like MySQL and mariadb cache the updates and then write them to disk every 1/2 to full second (or however configured). Seems like a good idea. So I come back to my suggestion earlier today - LO Base needs to give the user the opportunity to specify what they want - RAM or file based, single file or multiple files. Would that be difficult to do? Yes, I know that you can link to other back-end db's, but LO Base doesn't create those db's - that has to be done ahead of time by someone that is skilled with the particular db. Correct? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Base questions
All, Was reading the FAQ at https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ_%28Base%29 and came upon some insight that worries me. Under the heading So why should I avoid 'embedded databases'? it goes on to say the normal Base file is not reliable, so use a split file, the points to Microsoft docs. My questions are: 1. How robust are embedded Base files created by the GUI? 2. If they are not that reliable, what is the LO Base procedure to create a split database? 3. Anything else I need to know? I'm going ahead with using Base for a project for now. Once the data has stabilized (fields, field type, number of tables), I'll move to either Mysql or Mariadb. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Calc charts, data in record form
All, Looks like I will be keeping my data in Calc for a while - until we have a better idea of what we want (changing a database is a lot of work). However, I need to do some charts, and I have not figured out how to get Calc to give me what I want, so I need a pointer or two. I want line charts, with multiple curves per axis (up to 8). Perhaps something like this: http://www.indiabix.com/data-interpretation/line-charts/ The data is arranged in record format like this: Date Location TemperatureHumidity - - -- - 7/1/14Syracuse 71 79% 7/1/14Albany68 70% 7/1/14Rochester 69 70% 7/8/14Syracuse 82 68% 7/8/14Albany79 67% 7/8/14Rochester 75 66% So how do I end up with one chart that shows three curves for the three cities over time (Location and Date on the X-axis, Temperature on the Y-axis)? I have looked at the docs amd did some Googling, but so far I'm stumped. I know that someone has done this, so there is likely a very easy want to do it. Dave. -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc charts, data in record form
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 10:37 24/07/2014 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: Er, you presumably want just the date on the horizontal axis, with locations represented by separate lines. What you need to do is to assemble a table in an appropriate fashion for a chart to be possible. You will probably want four columns - for dates and the three locations - with the temperature values in the body of the table. That way, there would be one row for each date. Creating the chart from this would be simple. So how to achieve that table? Well, one way would be simply to enter the data that way in the first place. However the data arises, it may be most convenient to massage it into the required form as you enter it. Note that the way you are currently entering data, you have each date entered three times and each location very many times. That's never a good idea. How many weeks before you enter Sryacuse by mistake? Alternatively, you can simply extract what you need from your existing table into the required one. Your date column would be entered manually or - better if appropriate - filled down from the first two weeks' dates. The body of the table would then have formulae which retrieved the appropriate data from the original table. You might be able to do this using the VLOOKUP() function, but it won't be simple, as you have two conditions to search for: date and location. The simplest solution might be to sort your original table by location (or you could enter the data into three tables in the first place), and then to use VLOOKUP() to search for the appropriate date and harvest the temperature value from within just the relevant part of the original table - that now containing the values for each location. It's probably very much easier if you create three tables in the first place - one for each location. Brian, Thanks for the insight. The way the data is set up is legacy in that it is from a form used previously. The intent was to create database-like records where data from 12 cities is updated each week. To help eliminate entry mistakes, I use validation so Syracuse never becomes something else. I have made some progress playing with chart settings, but still not where I need to be. I will give the lookup functions a try. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table
I agree that planning is key. I started with a spreadsheet until the data source was stable. The plan is to import the data into Base, do some reports, report my progress, then gather comments and suggestions. My guess is that the database will grow - I just don't know to what. So, I may end up exporting the tables to spreadsheet and re-import. Once the database is stable, I plan to move to either MySQL or MariaDB. Dave, On Tue, Jul 15, 2014, at 07:30 PM, elderdanlewis wrote: If you are going to create a database, you plan it THOROUGHLY! Beginning with a small simple database and expanding it to a very large one is only asking for a complete disaster! Unless you are using a flat database, your tables need to be in at least fourth normal form. Repeatedly adding additional fields can cause the table containing these fields to loose its normal form. Then there is no way to know if your quieries and reports contain acurate information or not. The purpose of a relational darabase is to enter data without any repetition of it. http://wiki.documentation.org/Documentation/Publications has chapter two of the Base Guide on it: Planning/Designing your Database. Use it to plan what you need. Only then select the database engine you will use to create the database. Your database is only as good as your plan! Original message From: Girvin Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net Date:07/10/2014 4:17 PM (GMT-05:00) To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-userslibreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table Dave, I use the MySQL server and have added table fields before. It is simple in the LO Base table design window. Tables - right click on table - select Edit MySQL accepts these changes and adds the field. Of course, then you must add the new field toyour forms, queries, relationships and reports, as needed. Deleting fields is another matter. I have had problems with MySQL field deletions before - especially messing with the primary key. Then it may be a matter of directly using the MySQL interface program, with some SQL code, bypassing LO Base. But it is possible. So be careful what you do. Think it out first. I have no experience with the internal HSQLDB server. From what I read on this forum, using the internal HSQLDB server with a large 3GB database is not recommended. Best to use MySQL, MariaDB, or Postgresql for such large databases. Also, remember that there may be no way to easily port your data from the internal HSQLDB database to an external database if you so decide to make the change in the future. You may end up re-entering it all. Best to make the commitment now, before you run into a wall. Note that I consider my databases large at 2.7_M_B for the current largest. IMHO, 3GB is out there. HTH. Girvin Herr -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table
Thank you Noel. I will check this out. My head is spinning right now with all of the choices. I need to get something together for next Fri., so I'm going with LO Base for now. Seems like a decent choice because I will be the only user for most of the rest of the year. Later this year there may be two other users. So the convenience of LO Base makes sense, and the data size for the rest of the year is not likely to excede 200 MB. The biggest limitation with LO Base is the report spftware - doesn't seem to support embedding charts in the report. Hopefully this problem gets fixed in 4.3. Alternatively, I'll use a stand-alone report software product. Hey, did I mention that this was SUPPOSED to be a quick simple project? Aren't they all?? My hope is that I can use LO Base as the front end for a more robust RDMS later this year. I have been looking at MariaDB because it seems to have a lot of buz, but may not be the best chioce. One of the things that really needs to happen is that I have to get my arms around this project in terms of potential size, number of users, on the web or not, ect. My guess is that I won't have that done until very late this year. Dave, On Fri, Jul 11, 2014, at 09:07 AM, Marion Noel Lodge wrote: Hi Dave, You might also like to have a look at the H2 Database Engine, see - http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html I have found that it is a good stable replacement for HSQLDB and have used it in 6 different databases with good success. There is an active users group, and some of them report success with very large databases. Noel -- Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.com On 11 July 2014 05:27, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: I'm setting up a database that is small (three tables, may grow to 3GB over next year). I need a strategy to deal with the unknown, which is how to add fields to an existing table. I read in the docs that doing this can be painful and it is required to put something in each field for each record. Do I have this correct? If so, how do I handle the inevitable ...would you add... that is sure to come within the next few months? I would add them now, but I really can't anticipate how many fields will be added or their requirements. In general, do other databases have similar restrictions? At some time, when I have time, I will consider MySQL, MariaDB, and others. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table
IanW, I'm concerned with Base, but I have some things to put together for next Fri. which will be the data in some report. No big deal - just a starting point. Since time is tight, do you think I would be smarter to continue with Base/HSQL, or go to Base as the front tend and MySQL or MariaDB as the back end now? For this week, my data requirements are only 150KB, two tables, four queries, 1 report (my estimates as I type). MySQL has some graphic front-ends for creation and admin., but I don't think MariaDB has this (yet), though there are some third party software that may do the same thing. So while MariaDB has the buzz, I may be better off with MySQL and linve with Oracle - at least for now. For desktop use, there is also Kexi. Ever use it and any comments? I would consider this as an interim step that will tide me over for at least a few months. My big concern is time. Learning MySQL/MariaDB is not something I'll do in a day, so this may have to be a longer term project. Dave, Hi Dave My penny's worth - I battled with plain Base for about 3 years. Horrendous crashes and freezes and the amount of data I lost and had to re-enter was unbelievable!!! (I'm a single user, single machine running with Linux as my OpSys). Every time Base goes down it takes the entire Database with it! So the only way round it is to make copies every time you add data so that when it crashes you can rename the copy and get going again. You WILL lose data I promise you!! I did everything I could but no luck. It then became obvious to me that the problem was the embedded DB so I took the plunge and moved to MySQL last year. I've had NO crashes or lost data since then. It's as solid as a rock!! My recommendation would be to START right now with MySQL (or other backend). Base as a front end is great as long as the backend is solid!! Just my opinion for what it's worth but I speak from hard experience!!! Best wishes IanW Pretoria RSA. -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 03:51 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) 1st thing is that Base is best when used 'just' as a front-end and with all the data in some back-end such as MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql, HsqlDb or whatever. Generally i think it should be possible to fill an existing field, in all rows, by using an action Query. However, i am really surprised to hear that a new field can't have zero-length or be completely empty. Which docs have you been reading? From Getting Started, 4.0: Once tables have been created using the wizard, and data has been entered, editing them should be very limited. Fields can be added or deleted, but adding a field requires you to enter the data for that one field for every existing record with an entry for that field. Deleting a field deletes all the data once contained in that field. Changing the field type of a field can lead to data being lost either partially or completely. When creating a new table, it pays to create the fields with the correct names, length, and format before you add any data. Deleting a table removes all of the data contained in every field of the table. Unless you are sure, do not delete a table Chances are that they know tons more than me but jic it is FUD it'd be nice to know. The Base Guides are at [1]https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publicatio ns#LibreOffice_Base_Handbook I hope someone with more experience of Base lets us know soon! ;) Regards from Tom :) On 10 July 2014 20:27, dave boland [2]dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: I'm setting up a database that is small (three tables, may grow to 3GB over next year). I need a strategy to deal with the unknown, which is how to add fields to an existing table. I read in the docs that doing this can be painful and it is required to put something in each field for each record. Do I have this correct? If so, how do I handle the inevitable ...would you add... that is sure to come within the next few months? I would add them now, but I really can't anticipate how many fields will be added or their requirements. In general, do other databases have similar restrictions? At some time, when I have time, I will consider MySQL, MariaDB, and others. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland [3]dbola...@fastmail.fm -- [4]http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [5]users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? [6]http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: [7]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: [8]http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted References 1. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Handbook 2. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm 3. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm 4. http://www.fastmail.fm/ 5. mailto:users%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org 6. http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ 7. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette 8. http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_quotes.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table
All, I want to thank all of you for your very helpful responses. Yes, it has bee a long time since I have used databases. Last was about 10 years ago when I used Access with SQL for a real time data acquisition system. That was a challenge! What I'm doing now is creating a database of data that changes about twice per week, but the number of areas (of the US) covered will grow from 12 now, to over 100 if the project gets the go-ahead. I likely will be stuck adding the data as I am developing a program to acquire the raw data automatically. I will also create reports that get sent to a few individuals (for now), and more later if the project is go. There has been some talk about adding a web site that is interactive like some stock web sites or the really nice Weather Underground site, but that is a bridge to cross in 2015. My take-away for the discussion is that LO Base will not take me to where I need to be, and I need to make some decisions ASAP. I did a lot of Googling this afternoon, and some reading. The plan based on your input is: 1. Use LO Base to do the quick demo since the data is currently in a spreadsheet I don't need to worry about loosing it altogether. The reason for the spreadshet is that eraly on I have no idea what the data is going to look like, and spreadsheets are easier to creat and modify. 2. Move to an industrial strength database engine. After some fast research, I'm leaning toward MariaDB. It doesn't appear to have a GUI client for input forms or a report generator, so there will be a lot of work here. JasperRreports and Next Reports seem to be good for the output. 3. Plan on spending a lot more time than orriginally budgeted for this porject - but that seems to always be the case with developemnt. Thoughts or comments?? Thanks, Dave On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 03:27 PM, dave boland wrote: I'm setting up a database that is small (three tables, may grow to 3GB over next year). I need a strategy to deal with the unknown, which is how to add fields to an existing table. I read in the docs that doing this can be painful and it is required to put something in each field for each record. Do I have this correct? If so, how do I handle the inevitable ...would you add... that is sure to come within the next few months? I would add them now, but I really can't anticipate how many fields will be added or their requirements. In general, do other databases have similar restrictions? At some time, when I have time, I will consider MySQL, MariaDB, and others. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization
Thanks Wolfgang! Dave On Wed, Jun 25, 2014, at 07:27 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: I have been collecting data for over a year in Calc. I will be rolling over to Base to use the data more effectively. One word of free advice: Avoid the built in database engine. Use an external client-server RDBMS. It's so much safer. The driver for PostgreSQL comes with LO. Embedded database files can too easily get corrupted. That's not necessarily a problem specific to LO and/OR HSQLDB. However, Base has some drawbacks that I need some help with. I have been using the Calc data to create graphs of some of the data. I did not see a way to do this in Base directly, You can still pull the data from the database into Calc. https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75t=18511 so my first question is what is the best way to create graphics in the Base reports? Don't know about the report builder, never used it. I'm also aware of a data visualization program called R. I have not used R, and don't know if it will integrate with Base, or replace the Base report altogehter. R is a statistical analysis software, implemented as a fork of the commercial S+. It should at least integrate with LO through Python, since Python has an interface module RPy. Or someone may have written a plugin that allows to use. Oh, here it is: http://tinyurl.com/na2fatp BTW: For anything that's not directly implementable using Calc functions and plugins, Python is a great scripting language for data crunching anyway, so learning it can be useful. It's not just for reporting, and not just with LO and PostgreSQL. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Re: Base graphics/visualization
Alex, Thank you so much for the info! I have not spent much time on this, so I'm guessing that the plan (for me) is to use LO Base, then use one of these products to create the reports? These report generators require either an ODBC or JDBC driver, so I'm hoping that Base has one or the other. I did some Googling and it is not clear to me that it does. So, does that mean that I should be focusing on PostgreSQL or MariaDB for example? Thanks, Dave On Mon, Jun 23, 2014, at 09:11 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 23/06/2014 04:53, dave boland a écrit : Hi Dave, So, I'm back to where we started. I have ver. 4.1.3.2, and I know there is a new version in the works for later July. Will I be able to use the report facility to build charts based on the data form the query? If so, how? Forget using Base/Calc to build complex charts from your data, unless you have some serious time and coding skills to hand to be able to drive all of this via scripts and one of LO's UNO interfaces (Python, Basic, JS, Beanshell, etc). Look for another reporting solution that integrates chart handling in a (seemingly) more reliable way : JReport (very similar to what appears to be available in Base, but organised in a better way, IMHO : http://www.jinfonet.com/manualpro/tutorial/index.htm Pentaho Business Reports (this is the superset of tools to JFreeReport, the reporting tool used by LO Base) http://wiki.pentaho.com/display/Reporting/Pentaho+Reporting+-+User+Guide+for+Report+Designer iReport / JasperReports http://sourceforge.net/p/ireport/wiki/Home/ http://community.jaspersoft.com/wiki/ireport-designer-getting-started The latter enables you to export your report to a multitude of formats, including ODF, and PDF. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization
What I want to be able to do is (for now) have a pdf report that shows the statistics (records, averages, deviations) and charts that show up to four variables on the same axis. So the first question is can I do that with Base and Calc? This needs to be automated so that each day I run a report on the current data and get the report. I have no problem with using LO scripting language if needed, I just need to know that this can be done and generally how. If the answer is that it can't be done, or would require extensive work, then waht are the alternatives? I looked at MariaDb, but did not see any built-in tools to do what I want. As I mentioned in the original post, I'm fine with using Base and an external program like R if it can produce waht I want. Dave, On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 02:25 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) As i understand it Calc and Writer are meant to be used for the Forms and Reports. The in-built FormsReports are just to make Base more familiar for people moving away from MS Access. Similarly Base also allows data tables to be kept internally in the in-built back-end = just like MS Access. However, unlike Access, it is really meant to be used with an external back-end and that could be on a file-server or somewhere weird for security or to allow many different machines to share the same data easily. About the 1st things Base asks for is where the data is. In your case you could set Base to use the spreadsheet that you already have as it's back-end = then later on move the data to a different back-end program (such as MySql/MariaDb or Postgresql or something) for greater stability. This way of modularising the database means that normal users see the data in a familiar program (eg Writer or Calc) without needing to learn all about the complexities of database design. It means even normal users can use existing Forms and Reports to make new ones or to make minor modifications without much risk to the database itself. Regards form Tom :) On 22 June 2014 18:28, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: I too am interested in knowing if how LO can do graphs, et.al.. From: dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:42 PM Subject: [libreoffice-userslibreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization To: users@global.libreoffice.org All, I have been collecting data for over a year in Calc. I will be rolling over to Base to use the data more effectively. However, Base has some drawbacks that I need some help with. I have been using the Calc data to create graphs of some of the data. I did not see a way to do this in Base directly, so my first question is what is the best way to create graphics in the Base reports? For example, imagine a report that shows the temperature highs and lows of a month, along with the average and devation along with a graph of the daily temperature. I can see that Calc can be used, but that approach seems like a lot of work, and may not be able to be extensively automated. I'm also aware of a data visualization program called R. I have not used R, and don't know if it will integrate with Base, or replace the Base report altogehter. So I would like some comments of the best way forward for my project. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization
I just went to the LO page and see they have a module called Charts. I have 4.1, but the Charts module is not included, so my guess is that it is part of the new release next month. Anyway, does anyone familiar with Charts think that this may be an answer? Dave, On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 03:23 PM, dave boland wrote: What I want to be able to do is (for now) have a pdf report that shows the statistics (records, averages, deviations) and charts that show up to four variables on the same axis. So the first question is can I do that with Base and Calc? This needs to be automated so that each day I run a report on the current data and get the report. I have no problem with using LO scripting language if needed, I just need to know that this can be done and generally how. If the answer is that it can't be done, or would require extensive work, then waht are the alternatives? I looked at MariaDb, but did not see any built-in tools to do what I want. As I mentioned in the original post, I'm fine with using Base and an external program like R if it can produce waht I want. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization
Yes, I have used charts in Calc. However, it looks like Charts is being pulled out as a new module, not just in Calc. http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/charts/ Dave, On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 04:19 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Dave, The charts/diagrams have been around for a long time. You can insert one on a spreadsheet by going to the Insert menu then selecting Charts. Best, Charles. On 22 juin 2014 21:53:40 CEST, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: I just went to the LO page and see they have a module called Charts. I have 4.1, but the Charts module is not included, so my guess is that it is part of the new release next month. Anyway, does anyone familiar with Charts think that this may be an answer? Dave, On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 03:23 PM, dave boland wrote: What I want to be able to do is (for now) have a pdf report that shows the statistics (records, averages, deviations) and charts that show up to four variables on the same axis. So the first question is can I do that with Base and Calc? This needs to be automated so that each day I run a report on the current data and get the report. I have no problem with using LO scripting language if needed, I just need to know that this can be done and general ly how. If the answer is that it can't be done, or would require extensive work, then waht are the alternatives? I looked at MariaDb, but did not see any built-in tools to do what I want. As I mentioned in the original post, I'm fine with using Base and an external program like R if it can produce waht I want. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté. -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization
Oops! I goofed on the resend - sorry! - Original message - From: dave boland [1]dbola...@fastmail.fm To: Tom Davies [2]tomc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 22:52:16 -0400 Tom, This brings us full circle back to where I started and why I asked the question. The Base Handbook says: Note The creation of charts works at present only in Versions 3.3.x and 3.4.x. From Version 3.5, LibreOffice can no longer open these reports. They can still be produced, however. LibreOffice is not the only program to have problems with charts. In Version 3.3 of OpenOffice.org, the display does not work either. OpenOffice.org does open the reports, but with the charts missing. So, I'm back to where we started. I have ver. 4.1.3.2, and I know there is a new version in the works for later July. Will I be able to use the report facility to build charts based on the data form the query? If so, how? Dave, On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 07:52 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) This handbook and the guide might help [3]https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Libre Office_Base_Handbook and the Faq [4]https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Base They might mainly cover the simplest cases, of using just the in-built stuff but hopefully gives enough indication of how to use Base properly. It is difficult for people to understand even the basics so documentation is a big challenge. Regards from Tom :) On 22 June 2014 22:48, dave boland [5]dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: Yes, I have used charts in Calc. However, it looks like Charts is being pulled out as a new module, not just in Calc. [6]http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/charts/ Dave, On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 04:19 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Dave, The charts/diagrams have been around for a long time. You can insert one on a spreadsheet by going to the Insert menu then selecting Charts. Best, Charles. On 22 juin 2014 21:53:40 CEST, dave boland [7]dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: I just went to the LO page and see they have a module called Charts. I have 4.1, but the Charts module is not included, so my guess is that it is part of the new release next month. Anyway, does anyone familiar with Charts think that this may be an answer? Dave, On Sun, Jun 22, 2014, at 03:23 PM, dave boland wrote: What I want to be able to do is (for now) have a pdf report that shows the statistics (records, averages, deviations) and charts that show up to four variables on the same axis. So the first question is can I do that with Base and Calc? This needs to be automated so that each day I run a report on the current data and get the report. I have no problem with using LO scripting language if needed, I just need to know that this can be done and general ly how. If the answer is that it can't be done, or would require extensive work, then waht are the alternatives? I looked at MariaDb, but did not see any built-in tools to do what I want. As I mentioned in the original post, I'm fine with using Base and an external program like R if it can produce waht I want. Dave, -- dave boland [8]dbola...@fastmail.fm -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté. -- dave boland [9]dbola...@fastmail.fm -- [10]http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [11]users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? [12]http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscrib e/ Posting guidelines + more: [13]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: [14]http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland [15]dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be References 1. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm 2. mailto:tomc...@gmail.com 3. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Handbook 4. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Base 5. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm 6. http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/charts/ 7. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm 8. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm 9. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm 10. http://www.fastmail.fm/ 11. mailto:users%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org 12. http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ 13. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette 14. http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ 15. mailto:dbola...@fastmail.fm -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All
[libreoffice-users] Base graphics/visualization
All, I have been collecting data for over a year in Calc. I will be rolling over to Base to use the data more effectively. However, Base has some drawbacks that I need some help with. I have been using the Calc data to create graphs of some of the data. I did not see a way to do this in Base directly, so my first question is what is the best way to create graphics in the Base reports? For example, imagine a report that shows the temperature highs and lows of a month, along with the average and devation along with a graph of the daily temperature. I can see that Calc can be used, but that approach seems like a lot of work, and may not be able to be extensively automated. I'm also aware of a data visualization program called R. I have not used R, and don't know if it will integrate with Base, or replace the Base report altogehter. So I would like some comments of the best way forward for my project. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups
I would like to request that LO get real newsgroups like Ubuntu (alt.os.linux.ubuntu) and MEPIS (alt.os.linux.mepis) have. Real newsgroups are more convenient to use, don't clog up newsreaders with unwanted notes, and don't waste time on cutesy web pages. LO is now an open source force (a good thing), and it is time to have real newsgroups. Yes, I'm aware of spam concerns -- so what! Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Relational database example help
I have been messing around with Base for a relational application. The User Guide mentions the word relational twice, but offers no examples/explanations. That really needs to be changed. In the mean time, perhaps someone could write up a quick procedure for the simple example I have below. My interest is mainly setting up the tables (4) and making sure the company name is in both the Client and Contact tables. I realize that a foreign key comes in to play, but it is not clear how to do this or how information flows from one table to another. The forms seem to be easy, so they were included just to complete the thought. The example application a customer information database. It uses forms for input, reports with queries. The information collected is: [Company] Company ID.Int...Primary Key Company Name...VarChar...Name Company AddressVarChar...Address Company URLVarChar...URL [Client] Client ID..Int...Primary Key Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name Client NameVarChar...Individual's name Client Department..VarChar...Department the client works in Client Phone...VarChar...Phone number Client Email...VarChar...e-mail address Client Interests...VarChar...Interests Client Notes...Memo..Information about client [Contacts] Contact ID.Int...Primary Key Contact Date...Date..When I contacted the client Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name Client NameVarChar...Same as Client.Client Name Contact Method.VarChar...From a list that includes phone, e-mail, meeting, FAX Contact Notes..Memo..Notes/ToDo for the client Followup Date..Date..The date that I need to re-contact the client. There will be three forms - Selection, Client Information, and a sub-form for Company Information. They may look something like this: - ~~~ Selection ~~~ # Company Name Client Name -- --- 1 2 : nth [Go To Client] [Add Client] - - ~~~ Client Information ~~~ Company Name [Company Information Link]: Client Name: Client Department: Phone: e-mail: Interests: Notes: Contacts # DateContact Method Notes Follow-up Date -- -- -- - -- 1 2 : nth [Add Contact] [Update Contact] - - ~~~ Company Information ~~~ Company Name: Company Address: Comapny URL: [Add Company] -- Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups
I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc. Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 4:55 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 09/26/2011 04:25 PM, dave boland wrote: I would like to request that LO get real newsgroups like Ubuntu (alt.os.linux.ubuntu) and MEPIS (alt.os.linux.mepis) have. Have you heard about Gmane? You can have this list as newgroup with this. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user So what? ;-) -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help
Looks like my net connection went out before this was posted, so this is attempt 2. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:14 AM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: I have been messing around with Base for a relational application. The User Guide mentions the word relational twice, but offers no examples/explanations. That really needs to be changed. In the mean time, perhaps someone could write up a quick procedure for the simple example I have below. My interest is mainly setting up the tables (4) and making sure the company name is in both the Client and Contact tables. I realize that a foreign key comes in to play, but it is not clear how to do this or how information flows from one table to another. The forms seem to be easy, so they were included just to complete the thought. The example application a customer information database. It uses forms for input, reports with queries. The information collected is: [Company] Company ID.Int...Primary Key Company Name...VarChar...Name Company AddressVarChar...Address Company URLVarChar...URL [Client] Client ID..Int...Primary Key Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name Client NameVarChar...Individual's name Client Department..VarChar...Department the client works in Client Phone...VarChar...Phone number Client Email...VarChar...e-mail address Client Interests...VarChar...Interests Client Notes...Memo..Information about client [Contacts] Contact ID.Int...Primary Key Contact Date...Date..When I contacted the client Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name Client NameVarChar...Same as Client.Client Name Contact Method.VarChar...From a list that includes phone, e-mail, meeting, FAX Contact Notes..Memo..Notes/ToDo for the client Followup Date..Date..The date that I need to re-contact the client. There will be three forms - Selection, Client Information, and a sub-form for Company Information. They may look something like this: - ~~~ Selection ~~~ # Company Name Client Name -- --- 1 2 : nth [Go To Client] [Add Client] - - ~~~ Client Information ~~~ Company Name [Company Information Link]: Client Name: Client Department: Phone: e-mail: Interests: Notes: Contacts # DateContact Method Notes Follow-up Date -- -- -- - -- 1 2 : nth [Add Contact] [Update Contact] - - ~~~ Company Information ~~~ Company Name: Company Address: Comapny URL: [Add Company] -- Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04
I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and a PPA for LO, but I have yet to see an update from my 3.3.2 to the current 3.3.4. Do I need to add another PPA or do something else? Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help
Andreas, You are sooo correct about messing around! That is why good documentation is so helpful. I have read the Base guide for LO, and it was helpful for simple applications, but not so helpful for mine. The link you pointed out is new to me, so I will need a few days to digest it all. Thank you for your help!!! Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 4:37 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote: Am 26.09.2011 16:26, dave boland wrote: Looks like my net connection went out before this was posted, so this is attempt 2. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:14 AM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: I have been messing around with Base for a relational application. The User Guide mentions the word relational twice, but offers no examples/explanations. That really needs to be changed. Messing around with a database is like doing the same with a programming language. You won't get anywhere. http://openoffice.org/projects/documentation/downloads/directory/Base/Mid%20level%20Base%20tutorial First you've got to learn about tables, fields, relations and keys. Then you can use dozends of different databases with Base, Access, php webtools or similar database tools. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
Ken, I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page. One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can with Ubuntu and Mepis? If I have all of the functionality of a regular NG, then I'm good to go. In the mean time, I'l have another look at Gmane. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:58 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote: I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc. Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis. Dave, May I suggest you reread about Gmane? I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a newsgroup in Thunderbird. It's absolutely no different than when I read the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org. I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence. :-) -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups
Ok, enough of the insults. If your not part of the answer, they you are part of the problem. So go back to doing something else so the adults can have a discussion. Dave On Monday, September 26, 2011 6:06 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 09/26/2011 05:19 PM, dave boland wrote: Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis. Again, have a look at http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user Ok... Let me explain, as you seem brain dead: 1°) On http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user, you'll find a link saying: Using an NNTP newsreader. 2°) pass you mouse over that link and carefully look at the target URL nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user that means: - NNTP protocol - NNTP server: news.gmane.org - Group name in that server: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user I wish it's clearer... Otherwise, you should tone down and ask for basic help on using internet. -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help
Thanks Alex. I was unaware of form binding. This may be a great answer for this situation. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 7:29 PM, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 26/09/11 16:14, dave boland a écrit : Hi Dave, You will have to decide which form is going to be your main form, and then link the others to it via the relations you wish to create. So, for example : The information collected is: [Company] Company ID.Int...Primary Key Company Name...VarChar...Name Company AddressVarChar...Address Company URLVarChar...URL You could link Company_ID to Company_Name in Client, Contacts and Selection as a foreign key of these tables. Then when you design your Client and Contacts form, bind the field Company_ID to the corresponding Company_ID in the Company table, and then indicate that what you want displayed in the form as the bound column is actually Company_Name. The sub-form wizard should enable you to do that (i.e. when creating Client form, go through the subform wizard steps to bind to the Company table as well, which in effect creates a subform within your main form). You could also set up Contacts as a subform of Clients in the same way, e.g. as a grid control. These are of course just suggestions, there are many ways to skin a cat :-)) Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04
Tom, Thanks for the note. I was concerned that the Ubuntu Update Manager never seems to have LO updates. I like to stay current, but I also want to stay stable. So I'll wait and hopefully when things are sorted out there will be an update. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 11:15 AM, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) The 3.3.2 has fairly long term support so there is no problem with staying with it. The newer features are mostly in the 3.4.x branch but then that tends not to have the stability/support and might need upgrading much more often. The 3.4.3 apparently gives the best of both but like you i'm sticking with the 3.3.2 for now. You can install by downloading and installing outside of your package manager . You can have 2 or more instances of LibreOffice installed on the same machine but this guide helps avoid the problems that are likely to arise with that. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-updates-for-Ubuntu-10-04-tp3369398p3370158.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups
James, Thanks for the very clear post on the subject. I have no problem with a delay of minutes to an hour -- nothing is so important it can't wait a few minutes. So, I'll not change anything for now. Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing. I've been subscribed to: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something needs to get fixed. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:19 PM, James Wilde james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com wrote: Well, there's a slight snag here, due to be solved real soon now. As I understand it, the mailing list program used by libreoffice in its present version can not accept unmoderated posts sent via gmane unless the sender is also registered with libreoffice. Also as I understand it, this is due to change in an upcoming version of the mailing list program. This means you have two choices at present. 1. You can register with the libo mailing list using the -nomail parameter. This means that your posts via gmane get right through the system, but you don't get any emails. You read the newsgroup in your nntp reader. To use this option send an email from the same email account you registered with gmane to listname+subscribe-nom...@global.libreoffice.org. Reply to the resulting email and you're done. Listname for the users list is, of course, users. 2. You don't register with the libo mailing list, which means that, until the list manager is updated, your posts will come to one of the moderators to be approved before getting on the list. Normally this seems to result in a delay to be reckoned in minutes rather than hours. HTH //James One of the moderators On Sep 26, 2011, at 17:47 , dave boland wrote: Ken, I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page. One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can with Ubuntu and Mepis? If I have all of the functionality of a regular NG, then I'm good to go. In the mean time, I'l have another look at Gmane. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:58 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote: I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc. Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis. Dave, May I suggest you reread about Gmane? I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a newsgroup in Thunderbird. It's absolutely no different than when I read the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org. I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence. :-) -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
This is why I r e a l l y think that it is time to go to regular newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user. I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to subscribe. It is not worth the bother! Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups? It just seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote: Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing. I've been subscribed to: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something needs to get fixed. A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were changed, and there were acknowledged problems. Eventually, I had to completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything working. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
I can get gmane to list all of the subscribed LO newsgroups and it contains all of the messages in this thread. Not sure how that happened, but... I'm not able to post to the group though, so this is of no value to me until I can. If posting instructions works for all of you then I'm ok with it, but I still think regular newsgroups are a better idea for almost everyone (though some obviously disagree). I'm still not sure why Linux distributions like Ubuntu would use regular newsgroups, but a major player like LO won't. I think this question needs a good answer. Dave, Well, just a thought - create the instructions with screenshots on the wiki and then just post a link to the page here...? //drew -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04
I'm fine with the situation. I was concerned that I had missed something, but it looks I'm ok. So, I'll wait until LO is ready for the next release. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 4:29 PM, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I'm not expecting any up-dates tbh. LibreOffice does full upgrades rather than minor updates because it develops so fast. Is there a particular problem that you are waiting for a fix for? People in the documentation team tend to download the upstream version from the web-site http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ to help make sure screen-shots are consistent across different distros. The instructions for how to install on gnulinux are just being up-dated but it might be a week before the proof-reading and uploading gets done. I think the current instructions are good enough to work out. Regards from Tom :) -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04
I use 32-bit, Desktop. I would do the download, but it appears that there is no urgent reason to do so. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 7:50 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Are you running 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu? Desktop or laptop? Does not really matter, but it would be nice to know. -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base List Tables Questions
Alex, This would be a great feature to add as it is necessary to be able to document the structure of all of the tables. Dave, On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:44 +0200, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 25/08/11 22:46, dave boland a écrit : Hi Dave, One other question -- how can I print out the table design (Edit view)? That is not currently possible from within the Base module itself, other than via a screenshot (in fact, it was never possible, even with StarOffice/OpenOffice.org). I remember a macro written by Laurent Godard quite a long time ago that sought to achieve a tree-like representation of the database by using basic to query the field definitions and then use the acquired text to fill text boxes in a Draw document, but that probably wouldn't exactly be what you require. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Base List Tables Questions
I'm creating a database that has a main table and a few list tables to supply data for list boxes. I have been following the User Guide and created three list tables. When I go to link them I get errors about the keys. The errors make no sense to me, so what I need is a complete procedure on how to do this (would also suggest updating the documentation). tMainTable: -- ID, Integer // Key Date, Date EmployeeName, text VARCHAR EmployeeAddr, text VARCHAR EmployeeType, text VARCHAR EmployeeDept, text VARCHAR EmployeePos, text VARCHAR tEmployeeType: --- EmployeeType, text VARCHAR EmployeeTypeID, INTEGER// Autovalue = yes, key tEmployeeDept: --- EmployeeDept, text VARCHAR EmployeeDeptID, INTEGER// autovalue = yes, Key tEmployeePos: --- EmployeePos, text VARCHAR EmployeePosID, INTEGER // autovalue = yes, Key One other question -- how can I print out the table design (Edit view)? Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base List Tables Questions
Andreas, Wow! Where to start. First, Base (part of LibreOffice 3.3) is described as a database program, and that is what I want. As for the db engine, I have no clue, and could care less. As for the query -- why??? I'm trying to follow along with the Getting Started with Base guide, but it has left out a step or two. So I need someone to fill in the missing information based on what I have, not what you have. Don't mean to be fussy, but I don't see how this helps me in any way, and I don't fully understand it. So I would appreciate it if someone could explain how I make the links so I can creat a form and some reports. Thanks again, Dave On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:14 -0700, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote: Base is NOT a database program. Assuming that you are writing about a HSQLDB of version 1.8 I suggest the following query to be run in direct SQL mode. Dump the results of that query into a report, spreadsheet or whatever type of office document. HSQLDB 1.8 is documented fully at http://hsqldb.org/doc/guide/ ### SELECT A.table_type, -- TABLE or VIEW A.hsqldb_type, -- CACHED or TEXT A.table_name, B.column_name, B.type_name, B.column_size FROM information_schema.system_tables as A, information_schema.system_columns as B -- information_schema.system_indexinfo is index information WHERE A.table_schem = 'PUBLIC' AND A.table_name = B.table_name ORDER by A.TABLE_TYPE, A.table_name, B.ordinal_position ### This one lists all indices, foreign keys included: -- Index information from all tables in database SELECT A.table_type, A.table_name, B.index_name, B.column_name, B.ordinal_position, B.asc_or_desc, B.non_unique FROM information_schema.system_tables as A, information_schema.system_indexinfo as B WHERE A.table_schem = 'PUBLIC' AND A.table_name = B.table_name ORDER by A.table_type, A.table_name, B.index_name, B.ordinal_position -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-List-Tables-Questions-tp3285031p3285089.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base List Tables Questions
planas, I suspect you are on to something here. The error (detailed version) is: SQL Status: S0011 Error code: -170 Primary or unique constraint required on main table: tEmployeeType in statement [ALTER TABLE tMainTable ADD FOREIGN KEY (EmployeeType) REFERENCES tEmployeeType (EmployeeType)] It looks like the relationship system is trying to add a key to tMainTable, but can't for some reason. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] More fonts
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:55 +0100, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Ok, in Ubuntu 10.04 it's probably easiest to use the Synaptic Package Manager System - Administration - Synaptic because it allows you to get specific components of programs and things. The command-line might not be immediately obvious and the Software Centre is more about entire programs rather than add-ons and stuff. Use either search-tool to find ttf-mscorefonts-installer or the slightly older name msttcorefonts Installing either of those gives you about 6 of the basic MS fonts. You have to agree to their EULA this way and the fonts are just the basic MS ones; Arial, Times New Roman, Verdana, Comic Sans errr i think webdings(?!). I think Webmaster at Kracked Press has a huge variety of each of those on copy-left agreements (OpenSource, Free ones) and could help you put them in the right place. One of the advantages with the packages i mention is that they look exactly the same and have exactly the same names in Windows, also the one package does all the work for you to get all 6 sorted fairly neatly. Regards from Tom :) Tom, Thanks! All is well and I'm ready to write business letters. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] More fonts
I'm using LibreOffice as a MS Office replacement. The problem is I need the MS Office fonts (Aerial, etc). Where can I get them and how do I install them? Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] More fonts
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:13 +0100, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Which Operating System are you using; a Windows, Ubuntu, other linux, Mac or a Bsd? Tom, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on 386 platform. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
