Re: [libreoffice-users] Can Libreoffice Compress a PNG file?
Den fre 24 apr. 2020 kl 17:17 skrev Luuk : > > On 24-4-2020 15:11, M Henri Day wrote: > > Den fre 24 apr. 2020 kl 08:22 skrev Luuk > <mailto:luu...@gmail.com>>: > > > > > > On 23-4-2020 06:06, Musical Neptunian wrote: > > > I make Twitch emotes in GIMP. They cannot be more than 25 Mb or > > Twitch > > > rejects them. I found a tutorial somewhere that said that > > Libreoffice has a > > > png compression tool. But when I put my png into LibreOffice I > > got a whole > > > load of symbol junk. So instead I used a free online tool that > > reduced my > > > png from 30 Kb to 7 Kb with no quality change. But could I have > used > > > anything in Libreoffice to do this? > > > > > > I would never use LibreOffice for compressing images. > > > > use any tool found on the internet, like: > > > > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19153122/image-compression-tools-via-command-line > > > > > > Luuk, perhaps you could explain just why you would never use a > > LibreOffice too for compressing images. Doesn't the one suggested by > > Philip perform satisfactorily ?... > > > > Henri > > Just because LibreOffice is not an image-editor. It's about creating > document, or spreadsheets. > > Ik will also no use my bicycle to transport loads of goods, that's what > trucks are for > > I was inquiring about *specific* problems you had encountered with the image-compression tool in LibreOffice. I regularly transport goods on my bicycle, if doing so suits my needs Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can Libreoffice Compress a PNG file?
Den fre 24 apr. 2020 kl 08:22 skrev Luuk : > > On 23-4-2020 06:06, Musical Neptunian wrote: > > I make Twitch emotes in GIMP. They cannot be more than 25 Mb or Twitch > > rejects them. I found a tutorial somewhere that said that Libreoffice > has a > > png compression tool. But when I put my png into LibreOffice I got a > whole > > load of symbol junk. So instead I used a free online tool that reduced my > > png from 30 Kb to 7 Kb with no quality change. But could I have used > > anything in Libreoffice to do this? > > > I would never use LibreOffice for compressing images. > > use any tool found on the internet, like: > > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19153122/image-compression-tools-via-command-line Luuk, perhaps you could explain just why you would never use a LibreOffice too for compressing images. Doesn't the one suggested by Philip perform satisfactorily ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Assistance with electronic signature
Den tors 27 feb. 2020 kl 16:48 skrev Teodora Ahkozidou < tahkozi...@neterra.net>: > Hello, > > Could you please assist me with the below case: > > I need to sign documents in Libre office writer on my Mac machine. However > when you go to File > Digital Signature > Digital Signature the signature > is not appearing. However this works on the browser. All certificates are > installed on the Mac. We use StampIT ( [ > https://www.stampit.org/bg/page/795 | https://www.stampit.org/bg/page/795 > ] ). > > Could you assist in solving the issue? > > Thank you in advance. > > Best Regards > --- > Teodora Ahkozidu > System Administrator > office: +359 2 975 16 16 > mobile: +359 882 51 82 26 > [ http://www.neterra.net/ | www.neterra.net ] I'm not a Mac user myself, but according to Jack Wallen at *Tech Republi*c ( https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-sign-libreoffice-6-documents-with-gnupg/), if one has installed a PGP tool for MacOS (he suggests GPG Suite), one can sign documents by following the procedures outlined in the article Good luck - and please report back on your experience !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Re : Bouncing messages from users@global.libreoffice.org
Den tis 31 dec. 2019 kl 05:00 skrev : > Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the > mailing list. > > Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this > message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your > information. > > Here is the list of the bounced messages: > - 55635 From time to time I receive messages of the type above, but never any information about what I am expected - or allowed - to do with the «list of bounced messages» which accompanies them. Can anyone on the forum enlighten me ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] 问题
Den lör 7 sep. 2019 kl 11:10 skrev 前尘忆梦 <870587...@qq.com>: > linux系统安装完6.2与6.3版本，启动报附件中的错误！求解决方法 Could you be more specific, 前尘忆梦 ? Just what problems do you encounter with attachments after installing LibreOffice 6.2 and 6.3 on a machine running a GNU-Linux distro (which distro ?) ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] List down?
Den tors 15 aug. 2019 kl 12:45 skrev Thomas Blasejewicz : > Good evening > Is the list down? > I have not received a single message in almost a week. > > Thomas I'm still receiving messages - save when I'm not, but then I usually get a message with a number that I fail to understand how I am expected to use, telling me that everything is back to normal if I see it Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Convert .wps into Ms Word format
Den lör 13 juli 2019 kl 21:31 skrev charles meyer : > HI all, > > I was sent a .wps file (about 3-5 pages). It's from a trustworthy person > who has really old software and not computer savvy. > > I've read a plethora of Google results and none have worked to convert that > file format into readable format. Word pad came the closes but still a lot > of unrecognized characters. > > I've read Zamar online is not to be trusted. > > Has anyone used Libre Writer or Draw or any downloadable free program to > convert .wps files? > > Thank you, > > Charles. Hullo Charles, I had occasion to test opening and reading .wps files in LibreOffice on a single occasion several years ago, when one of our pensioners needed to read some ancient documents. Worked like a charm Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Vertical text in Writer on updated Linux Mint (19.1)
Den sön 9 juni 2019 kl 11:53 skrev M Henri Day : > Den sön 9 juni 2019 kl 11:09 skrev Luuk : > >> >> On 9-6-2019 09:04, M Henri Day wrote: >> >> After upgrading to LO 6.2.4,2 on Linux Mint 19.1, I found to my >> surprise >> >> that I was neither able to attach the Vertical text icon to the Writer >> >> Toolbar, nor implement the function. I don't encounter this problem >> running >> >> LO 6.2.4.2 on my Windows 10 (v 1903) machines. Has anyone else seen >> >> anything similar ? Any suggestions ?... >> >> >> >> Henri >> >> >> If it is not shown here: >> >> >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__all__=vertical%20text_id=966418=Importance=LibreOffice_format=specific >> >> or search needs to be done more precise... > > > Luuk, I took your response to be a suggestion that I report a bug, which > I've now done : > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125810 > > Henri > My apologies ; the address to which I attempted to link above was https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125810 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Vertical text in Writer on updated Linux Mint (19.1)
Den sön 9 juni 2019 kl 11:09 skrev Luuk : > > On 9-6-2019 09:04, M Henri Day wrote: > >> After upgrading to LO 6.2.4,2 on Linux Mint 19.1, I found to my surprise > >> that I was neither able to attach the Vertical text icon to the Writer > >> Toolbar, nor implement the function. I don't encounter this problem > running > >> LO 6.2.4.2 on my Windows 10 (v 1903) machines. Has anyone else seen > >> anything similar ? Any suggestions ?... > >> > >> Henri > >> > If it is not shown here: > > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__all__=vertical%20text_id=966418=Importance=LibreOffice_format=specific > > or search needs to be done more precise... Luuk, I took your response to be a suggestion that I report a bug, which I've now done : https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125810.. .. Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Vertical text in Writer on updated Linux Mint (19.1)
> After upgrading to LO 6.2.4,2 on Linux Mint 19.1, I found to my surprise > that I was neither able to attach the Vertical text icon to the Writer > Toolbar, nor implement the function. I don't encounter this problem running > LO 6.2.4.2 on my Windows 10 (v 1903) machines. Has anyone else seen > anything similar ? Any suggestions ?... > > Henri > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Vertical text in Writer on updated Linux Mint (19.1)
After upgrading to LO 6.2.4,2 on Linux Mint 19.1, I found to my surprise that I was neither able to attach the Vertical text icon to the Writer Toolbar, nor implement the function. I don't encounter this problem running LO 6.2.4.2 on my Windows 10 (v 1903) machines. Any suggestions ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] compose characters
Den ons 15 maj 2019 kl 00:59 skrev Udvarias Ur : > Dear Thomas, > > OOPS! My bad. I could not find the character you want in the > "freedesktop.org" list. > > However, I did find 2 versions of the character (one with a short bar > the other with a long bar) in the "Character Map" program. You'll find > them in the "STIXSizeOneSym" font. > > On 2019-05-14 4:35 a.m., Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > > Good afternoon > > I have to enter into a technical text a capital "M" with a short bar > > on top of it. > > Some sort of mathematical expression indicating a vector. > > > > I know there is something like "composing characters", but I cannot > > get it right. > > All I ever get is a diacritical mark either left or right from the M. > > I would appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction. > > > > While googling about this, I also found some talk a "autocorrect > > options" using : : > > Yet, I cannot make this work either. > > I suppose, there is a trick for this one too. > > > > Thank you > > Thomas > > > -- > Udvarias Ur > > This letter was generated and sent from Thunderbird 60.5.1 on Ubuntu Linux > 16.04.6 LTS. > > Cette lettre a été générée et envoyée à partir de Thunderbird 60.5.1 sur > Ubuntu Linux 16.04.6 LTS. Udvarius, as you've discovered, most fonts do not support creating an « M» via a compose key ; generally speaking it's easier to use such a key to place a bar over a vowel than a consonant. But there's no need for the OP to restrict himnself to a certain font ; rather than using the compose key, *in LibreOffice* one can use the «bar over» button to produce such characters, as per the instructions in my first reply above to the OP. Moreover, one can easily copy such a character and paste it into, e g, an epost message ; that is how I am able to write «M» in this reply Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] compose characters
Den tis 14 maj 2019 kl 10:36 skrev Thomas Blasejewicz : > Good afternoon > I have to enter into a technical text a capital "M" with a short bar on > top of it. > Some sort of mathematical expression indicating a vector. > > I know there is something like "composing characters", but I cannot get > it right. > All I ever get is a diacritical mark either left or right from the M. > I would appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction. > > While googling about this, I also found some talk a "autocorrect > options" using : : > Yet, I cannot make this work either. > I suppose, there is a trick for this one too. > > Thank you > Thomas Thomas, perform a search for «Adding Buttons to Toolbars» in LO Help and follow the instructions. The button you want to add - and use when typing in your « M» - looks like a lower-case «a» with a bar over it (ā) Hope this helps ! Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Slowwww typing
Den fre 5 okt. 2018 kl 23:08 skrev zerubbabel : > I just installed Linux Mint 19 after using Debian Testing for the past > year, > but working with LibreOffice in the fresh installation of Mint is very > frustrating, as there is so much hesitation when typing or navigating > around > a document. The same version of LibreOffice was lightning fast in Debian. > Perhaps there are other factors, but if anyone has experienced this > performance problem and found a simple solution, please let me know. > > -- > Sent from: > http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html Haven't seen this ; the Swedish-language edition of 64-bit LibreOffice - Version: 6.1.2.1, Build ID: 65905a128db06ba48db947242809d14d3f9a93fe - works very well on my 64-bit Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (Swedish edition) machine Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Installing LO on (64-bit) Windows 10
Decided today to install (the Swedish-language version of) LO 6.1.0.3 on one of my Windows 10 (version 1803, updated) machines ; as expected I observed the same problem I've encountered ever since version 5.4.1, *viz*, that if after choosing a typical installation in the Installation Guide, I then check the box for creating an icon on the desktop, when the installation gets to the point that new shortcuts are to be installed, Warning 1909, to the effect that shortcut LibreOffice 6.1. lnk could not be installed and that I should check to see that the the target map exists and that I have access to it, appears in a smaller box also entitled LibreOffice 1.6.0.3 - Installation Guide. When I then click OK, Internal error 2902 ixoShortCutProperty is then displayed in the box and when I again click OK, the installation is rolled back If I do *not *check the box for creating a desktop icon, the installation proceeds nominally and what is more, a desktop icon is created anyway. I've experienced this problem on several different computers, so it would seem to be due to an LO setting, rather than to a software or hardware problem on a particular computer. I've not seen any reference to it on this forum, which surprises me, as I'd have thought that such a rollback would provoke responses from many users ; could it be that only users of the Swedish version are affected ? In any event, I'd appreciate hearing back concerning this matter. What is the standard target map for the shortcut link on Windows, and where can it be found ? I note that I encounter no such problems when installing LO on, e g, Linux Mint, whether directly from the LO website or via the PPAs Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc
Den fre 10 aug. 2018 kl 15:19 skrev Peggy <33mar...@gmail.com>: > Sorry. I meant 6.0.6. With Win 7 Pro, although I have a new computer on the > way with Win 10 (probaby Home verson). This was the first time I wanted to > use anything but LibreWriter, so when I couldn't find "Calc" > or any of the other ones like "Draw" or "Base" I downloaded the newest > version (besides the one for early adopters) hoping all the modules would > be there. > I didn't see anything about having to download them separately. > > Thanks for replying! Peggy, you certainly shouldn't have to download and install the six LO modules - Base, Calc, Draw, Impress, Math, Writer - seperately ; if you've downloaded the installation package for LibreOffice 6.0.6.2 for Windows from the LO site and then installed it, when you click the Windows 7 menu icon at the left of your taskbar, and then select «All Programs» you should see a folder-like icon for LibreOffice 6.0. Clicking that will open to 8 applications : LibreOffice, LibreOffice (Safe Mode), Base, Calc, Draw, Impress, Math, and Writer. Clicking on any of these should launch that particular application. Does performing the above lead to a different outcome for you ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO6.1 - no Quick-starter
Den fre 10 aug. 2018 kl 11:46 skrev Andrew : > Thanks for your speedy reply, Andrew ! Currently I have three LO icons > > on my panel - the generic LO, Writer, and Calc, respectively, > > corresponding to the services I most often use. Clicking the > > first-named opens a menu allows me to choose from the other four > > services with a simple click, which I presume serves the same function > > as the Quick-starter which you describe above (I've never used it) > > > > From what you wrote above, I got the impression that the Quick-starter > > option has been available to you in all LO versions previous to > > 6.1.0.3, which surprised me, as on the 6.0.6..2 version I presntly > > have installed, I don't see any «memory» option (I'm using the > > Swedish-language version, but I doubt that it differs in this respect > > from the English-language version I presume you use). After doing some > > searching, I've been given to understand that it was deprecated quite > > some time ago, but that installing the «libreoffice-systray» package > > would work. However, this alternative may also have been deprecated, > > unfortunatelyI haven't a clue > > > > With regard to the pre-release PPA, in my experience it installs the > > new version over the older one. It works very well, - which hasn't > > always been the case when I've manually installed a pre-release > > version from the LO website - the only problem is that I often have to > > wait a short while before the PPA becomes available to me. Thus, for > > example, version 6.1.0.3 was successfully added to the PPA some three > > days ago, but it still hasn't appeared on my Update Manager. However, > > I regard waiting a few extra days for it to come as a small price to > > pay for the convenience and reliability it hitherto has offered me > > > > Henri > > Hi Henri > > Thanks for the tip about libreoffice-systray. I've just installed it and > restarted LibO and still nothing ... and I cannot see anything on-line > about how to launch it. It is of course possible that all of the > libraries will be loaded next time I log back into my system, so that > test will have to wait a little. > > I guess that because I hadn't noticed it being deprecated before was > because it was somehow 'magically' (?) operational and present in all > upgrades. I never really thought about it until it became evident due to > being absent. > > In which case, I may have to take a leaf out of your book and just pin > the three or so most used applications and be done with it. > > Thanks very much for your suggestions and help. > > Best wishes > > Andrew Hope pinning the most used LO applications resolves your problem !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO6.1 - no Quick-starter
Den fre 10 aug. 2018 kl 10:44 skrev Andrew :
> On 10/08/18 09:37, M Henri Day wrote:
> > Den fre 10 aug. 2018 kl 10:04 skrev Andrew > <mailto:phaedr...@gmail.com>>:
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Have just downloaded and installed LibreOffice Version: 6.1.0.3 for
> > Linux Mint 19 ('Tara').
> >
> > First off, thanks to all of the developers and team of geniuses who
> put
> > this great piece of software together and keep pushing its quality to
> > ever greater heights. As always, the new install works smoothly,
> > and the new interface is looking great.
> >
> > I did notice that there is no longer an option to enable the
> > Quick-starter (in fact, there's now no longer any 'memory' menu
> > option
> > under 'options' within which to enable the Quick-starter). I don't
> > know
> > if this is a feature or a bug from a development perspective, but
> > from a
> > user perspective, it is a bug: I used to use it all of the time and
> > found myself missing it immediately.
> >
> > Is there any likelihood in the future to bring this option back?
> > Or, is
> > there something in one of the config files I might be able to hack
> > as a
> > work around?
> >
> > Anyway, thanks again to all involved. Great stuff and as always, I am
> > very pleased my donations are being put to such a good investment.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > Andrew, wouldn't it suffice for your purposes to pin the LibreOffice >
> icon(s) to the panel on LM (right click the icon desired in the meny
> > and choose the option «Pin to the panel») ? I'm using the same version >
> of LMyou do (but LO 6.0.6.2 rather than 6.1.0.3 - still waiting for
> > the pre-release PPA to kick in) and it works very well for me
> >
> > Henri
>
> Hi Henri
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I have a series of 'drawers' in a side panel, into which I have pinned
> the LibO app launcher, so that enables me to launch the whole suite.
> What I like(d) about the Quick-starter was being able to right click it
> and to select the specific application (e.g., calc, impress, etc.) that
> I wanted to use rather than to pin a set of specific app launchers to my
> panel.
>
> I agree though that that will be an option if the development decision
> is to deprecate the use of the Quick-starter, although I hope they
> don't! :-)
>
> BTW - in using the PPA, when you update, does it automatically remove
> the old version of LibO prior to installing the new, and does it install
> the three packages in the correct sequence? I guess it does, but I've
> always been wary of that so have traditionally always done it manually
> via synaptic to remove the previous install and then dpkg -i to install
> the new packages.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Andrew
Thanks for your speedy reply, Andrew ! Currently I have three LO icons on
my panel - the generic LO, Writer, and Calc, respectively, corresponding to
the services I most often use. Clicking the first-named opens a menu allows
me to choose from the other four services with a simple click, which I
presume serves the same function as the Quick-starter which you describe
above (I've never used it)
From what you wrote above, I got the impression that the Quick-starter
option has been available to you in all LO versions previous to 6.1.0.3,
which surprised me, as on the 6.0.6..2 version I presntly have installed, I
don't see any «memory» option (I'm using the Swedish-language version, but
I doubt that it differs in this respect from the English-language version I
presume you use). After doing some searching, I've been given to understand
that it was deprecated quite some time ago, but that installing the
«libreoffice-systray» package would work. However, this alternative may
also have been deprecated, unfortunatelyI haven't a clue
With regard to the pre-release PPA, in my experience it installs the new
version over the older one. It works very well, - which hasn't always been
the case when I've manually installed a pre-release version from the LO
website - the only problem is that I often have to wait a short while
before the PPA becomes available to me. Thus, for example, version 6.1.0.3
was successfully added to the PPA some three days ago, but it still hasn't
appeared on my Update Manager. However, I regard waiting a few extra days
for it to come as a small price to pay for the convenience and reliability
it hitherto has offered me
Henri
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO6.1 - no Quick-starter
Den fre 10 aug. 2018 kl 10:04 skrev Andrew :
> Hi all
>
> Have just downloaded and installed LibreOffice Version: 6.1.0.3 for
> Linux Mint 19 ('Tara').
>
> First off, thanks to all of the developers and team of geniuses who put
> this great piece of software together and keep pushing its quality to
> ever greater heights. As always, the new install works smoothly, and the
> new interface is looking great.
>
> I did notice that there is no longer an option to enable the
> Quick-starter (in fact, there's now no longer any 'memory' menu option
> under 'options' within which to enable the Quick-starter). I don't know
> if this is a feature or a bug from a development perspective, but from a
> user perspective, it is a bug: I used to use it all of the time and
> found myself missing it immediately.
>
> Is there any likelihood in the future to bring this option back? Or, is
> there something in one of the config files I might be able to hack as a
> work around?
>
> Anyway, thanks again to all involved. Great stuff and as always, I am
> very pleased my donations are being put to such a good investment.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Andrew
Andrew, wouldn't it suffice for your purposes to pin the LibreOffice
icon(s) to the panel on LM (right click the icon desired in the meny and
choose the option «Pin to the panel») ? I'm using the same version of LMyou
do (but LO 6.0.6.2 rather than 6.1.0.3 - still waiting for the pre-release
PPA to kick in) and it works very well for me
Henri
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Re: [libreoffice-users] New features in 6.1.0 Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Text for "New Features" page for translation, after LO 6.1 release
Den ons 8 aug. 2018 kl 17:22 skrev James Knott : > I see the same thing. > > On 08/08/2018 11:13 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: > > FYI > > > > 11:08 AM EST > > > > YouTube video is not displaying. > > > > Results in message "If playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting > > your device" in Firefox. > > > > Interestingly enough, if you move your cursor over the time line, it > > display image from video. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > On 8/8/2018 7:44 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > >> Hi :) > >> Mike Saunders and the rest of the marketing team (and translators) have > >> made a video showing the new features in LibreOffice 6.1.0. > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvoCpnwGNFU > >> > >> I think some of the new features are things that have been asked about > >> quite recently- and might mean we have better answers for those > >> questions > >> now. > >> > >> Be wary though !! This is the .0 release and it's only just been > >> releasedtoday so this is THE point at which the most unexpected and > >> unlikely breakages of functionality may occur ! It is also the BEST > >> time > >> to try out he new version AWAY from your regular install preferably on a > >> system you don't rely on for work or in a sandboxed area (Gnu has > >> MANY different ways of creating safe-areas to try things out in). > >> > >> It is THE time that the most devs are focusing on this new release so > >> it's > >> the best time to find bugs or features that have gone wonky and post > >> bug-reports about them. > >> > >> This is also a good time to join the QA Team to help them with > >> filing > >> tasks, and perhaps asking bug-reporters for relevant information that > >> might > >> help the devs handle their request and generally help with first > >> responses. > >> > >> Good luck and regards from > >> a Tom :) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 11:13, Mike Saunders < > >> mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> > >>> On 07/08/2018 16:01, Mike Saunders wrote: > >>>> 2) There is a new video for LibreOffice 6.1; I'll provide the updated > >>>> URL tomorrow just before launch. > >>> Here it is: > >>> > >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvoCpnwGNFU > >>> > >>> Mike Clicking Mike's link above runs the YouTube video without any problem on Firefox on my 64-bit Linux Mint 19 installation Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply, Reply all, Reply list, and getting offended (was Calculate difference between two,dates (with time))
Den lör 14 juli 2018 kl 02:44 skrev Tom Davies : > Hi :) > +1 > > This mailing list is a gateway from the Microsquish world so we have got to > be able to handle whatever systems MS users are using at any point in > time. We cannot expect them to magically know all our individual pet > hates. We cannot expect them to change ALL their systems at the same time > just in order to be able to communicate with us. > > We cannot be unwelcoming and petulant because many people have stayed away > from linux for exactly that reason. Various projects such as Ubuntu > started using a "Code of Conduct" to welcome people in One of the crucial > jobs of this mailing list is to be welcoming instead of judgmental. > > Regards from > a Tom :) <...> «Various projects such as Ubuntustarted using a "Code of Conduct" to welcome people in One of the crucial jobs of this mailing list is to be welcoming instead of judgmental.» Exactly Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] automatic capitalization
Den tis 10 juli 2018 kl 23:54 skrev Udvarias Ur : > Dear LibreOffice users, > > I've been using LibreOffice since day one. i.e. Since the fork from > OpenOffice. Calc, as I remember it, has always automatically capitalized > the first word, *of every line*, within a cell. > > When I was using calc occasionally, I just changed it. Now I'm using > calc frequently and it has become a waste of time! > > How can I disable this? > > -- > Udvarias Ur > > This letter was generated and sent from Thunderbird 52.7.0 on Ubuntu Linux > 16.04.4 LTS. > > Cette lettre a été générée et envoyée à partir de Thunderbird 52.7.0 sur > Ubuntu Linux 16.04.4 LTS. Tools → Auto-correction options →Options ; remove the check from «Start every sentence with a capital letter». (I'm translating here from the Swedish, apologies for infelicities) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice
Den fre 6 juli 2018 kl 17:18 skrev Graham Luffrum : > I've had a quick look at 6.1.0.1 and the toolbars have changed and I can > get back to the "default" from every variant. So maybe my problem with > 6.0.5.2 is not worth pursuing. > > Graham > > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 17:08, M Henri Day wrote: > > > Den fre 6 juli 2018 kl 16:45 skrev Graham Luffrum : > > > >> This is all very well, but on my system (6.0.5.2 under Linux Mint 18.1) > >> the > >> settings icon does not work which means that I can get back to the > default > >> only by changing the Notebooktoolbar settings. Also the menubar is not > >> shown by default - again this requires changes to the Notebooktoolbar > >> settings. > >> > >> Graham > >> > > > > > > > > Odd. On my setup - *nota bene*, with Expert enabled - with the standard > > layout enabled, I don't see the settings icon, but when i have the > Notebook > > layout enabled, the icon is visible and clicking it gives me the option > to > > enable the menubar, from which I can then proceed to return to the > standard > > layout. We are both running LO 6.0.5.2 (in my case, the 64-bit version) > on > > Linux Mint, and I find it difficult to believe the fact that I'm using a > > more recent version of LM (19.0) than you are or that my LO is the > Swedish > > edition can explain the differences we seem to experience. Perhaps a > > developer could be enticed to weigh in ?... > > > > > > Henri Thanks for reporting back, Graham ; if the issue has been resolved in 6.1.0, then I agree - there's not much reason to pursue it further. But which layout did you prefer, the Notebook or the default ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice
Den fre 6 juli 2018 kl 16:45 skrev Graham Luffrum : > This is all very well, but on my system (6.0.5.2 under Linux Mint 18.1) the > settings icon does not work which means that I can get back to the default > only by changing the Notebooktoolbar settings. Also the menubar is not > shown by default - again this requires changes to the Notebooktoolbar > settings. > > Graham > Odd. On my setup - *nota bene*, with Expert enabled - with the standard layout enabled, I don't see the settings icon, but when i have the Notebook layout enabled, the icon is visible and clicking it gives me the option to enable the menubar, from which I can then proceed to return to the standard layout. We are both running LO 6.0.5.2 (in my case, the 64-bit version) on Linux Mint, and I find it difficult to believe the fact that I'm using a more recent version of LM (19.0) than you are or that my LO is the Swedish edition can explain the differences we seem to experience. Perhaps a developer could be enticed to weigh in ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice
Den fre 6 juli 2018 kl 14:10 skrev Tom Davies : > Hi :) > A lot of normal users see the normal menu and icon-bar as being old and > arrive at the conclusion that LibreOffice is old. > > The 'new' ribbon-bar / Notebookbar will probably help reduce barriers to > migrating people away from MS Office. It prolly needs a lot more polish > because it's the first appearance of this feature. I've still not seen it > myself so i'm just guessing. > > The ribbon-bar in MS Office also does nothing to make it easier to use and > several iterations of it have just made it harder to figure-out where > things might be. It also seems to reduce the amount of space for the > document itself. However it looks shiny and glossy and kinda new so a lot > of people prefer it and think the clunkiness is their own fault for not > having learnt how to use MS Office more profficiently. > > Personally i prefer normal menus because if i click on the wrong one i can > just slide the mouse arrow along to open each menu in turn. Sometimes > something unexpected catches my eye and i maybe give it a try one day so it > helps me learn too. The ribbon-bar doesn't allow for such exploration. > > So i am glad the Notepadbar exists and i hope to try it and show it off as > soon as i can put Facebook aside for a moment! > Regards from > a Tom :) > > On 6 July 2018 at 08:21, M Henri Day wrote: > >> Den tors 5 juli 2018 kl 14:39 skrev Philip Jackson < >> philip.jack...@nordnet.fr>: >> >> > I tried the Notebookbar after looking at the Fedora article. It worked >> > just as advertised and I managed to return to default using the '3 small >> > horizontal lines' icon on the rhs of the ribbon. I was using LO 6.0.0.2 >> > (I think) >> > >> > I wasn't impressed by the Notebookbar - it seems to be variations on a >> > theme started by MS some years ago and immediately followed by some >> > other software houses just like it was the fashion of the day. The >> > introduction of the ribbon by Avid Sibelius raised howls of protest from >> > the veteran users of Sibelius - but that's just because we're mostly >> > very conservative and don't like change. >> > >> > Yesterday, I upgraded LO to 6.0.5.2 and took the opportunity to recheck >> > Notebookbar. Out of the 6 variants, the first 2 'Contextual Groups' and >> > 'Contextual Simple' don't show the little icon. The next 2 variants, >> > 'Tabbed' and 'Tabbed Compact' do show the icon. >> > >> > The last two, 'Grouped bar full' and 'Group bar compact' don't show the >> > icon BUT they do have an item at the far right called 'Menu' which has a >> > drop down which allows you to toggle on the Menu Bar - and to select >> > the different variants of Notebookbar. >> > >> > The number of combinations seem to be numerous. I may have missed a >> > combination but it seemed to me that although I could turn off the >> > regular MenuBar in the Grouped Bar full and compact variants, it still >> > appeared in the 2 tabbed variants. >> > >> > This ribbon seems good to pass away a few spare minutes. For a new user, >> > it may provide something of interest but I think I'll stay with the old >> > menu bar. >> > >> > Philip >> >> >> >> Agree with Philip above about retaining the old toolbar layout - one >> could, >> of course, learn the «ribbon», but why bother - especially when it is >> more >> complicated to use and doesn't seem to provide any advantages. But I do >> think it's worthwhile experimenting with and it's easy to get back to the >> default toolbar layout, så long as the menubar is shown (which it is by >> defautl ; if one doesn't see it in the ribbon view, click the settings >> icon >> (the three horizontal lines) at the upper right and check the >> alternative)) >> just click there on View → Toolbar Layout and choose Default >> >> Henri > > I suspect you're right, Tom - even if I'm not sure what a «normal user» would be - some people are indeed convinced that everything that is new is necessarily better, even if, as you point out «[t]he ribbon-bar in MS Office also does nothing to make it easier to use» - quite the contrary, for many users with whom I've come in contact. But I think the developers are wise to explore this path, in order to win over users who for some reason feel that such an interface is more «modern» What I hope they will *not* do, however, is remove support for the standard toolbar layout at some future date if it seems that a large number of new user
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice
Den tors 5 juli 2018 kl 14:39 skrev Philip Jackson < philip.jack...@nordnet.fr>: > I tried the Notebookbar after looking at the Fedora article. It worked > just as advertised and I managed to return to default using the '3 small > horizontal lines' icon on the rhs of the ribbon. I was using LO 6.0.0.2 > (I think) > > I wasn't impressed by the Notebookbar - it seems to be variations on a > theme started by MS some years ago and immediately followed by some > other software houses just like it was the fashion of the day. The > introduction of the ribbon by Avid Sibelius raised howls of protest from > the veteran users of Sibelius - but that's just because we're mostly > very conservative and don't like change. > > Yesterday, I upgraded LO to 6.0.5.2 and took the opportunity to recheck > Notebookbar. Out of the 6 variants, the first 2 'Contextual Groups' and > 'Contextual Simple' don't show the little icon. The next 2 variants, > 'Tabbed' and 'Tabbed Compact' do show the icon. > > The last two, 'Grouped bar full' and 'Group bar compact' don't show the > icon BUT they do have an item at the far right called 'Menu' which has a > drop down which allows you to toggle on the Menu Bar - and to select > the different variants of Notebookbar. > > The number of combinations seem to be numerous. I may have missed a > combination but it seemed to me that although I could turn off the > regular MenuBar in the Grouped Bar full and compact variants, it still > appeared in the 2 tabbed variants. > > This ribbon seems good to pass away a few spare minutes. For a new user, > it may provide something of interest but I think I'll stay with the old > menu bar. > > Philip Agree with Philip above about retaining the old toolbar layout - one could, of course, learn the «ribbon», but why bother - especially when it is more complicated to use and doesn't seem to provide any advantages. But I do think it's worthwhile experimenting with and it's easy to get back to the default toolbar layout, så long as the menubar is shown (which it is by defautl ; if one doesn't see it in the ribbon view, click the settings icon (the three horizontal lines) at the upper right and check the alternative)) just click there on View → Toolbar Layout and choose Default Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice
On 4 July 2018 at 16:37, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > So in the article it says; > > *View > Toolbar Layout* and choose Notebookbar > > > > But in order to get that option you have to tick the box for "*Enable > > experimental features*" in > > Tools - Options - Advanced > > and then restart LibreOffice. > > > > So hopefully either of those is able to get rid of the Notebookbar. > > Hopefully the first way because then it should be easy to try it for a > bit > > another day. > > Regards from > > a Tom :) > > > > > > > > On 4 July 2018 at 16:19, Tom Davies wrote: > > > >> Hi :) > >> Gahhh, i dunno! :( Any chance of recent updates to; > >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > >> helps at all? > >> > >> Apols and regards from > >> a Tom :) > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4 July 2018 at 15:27, Graham Luffrum wrote: > >> > >>> Perhaps rather foolishly I tried out the Notebookbar, but then > discovered > >>> that there appears to be no way back despite what is written in the > >>> article. In the top right-hand corner there is a button, but it > doesn't > >>> appear to do anything. > >>> > >>> I'm using 6.0.5.2 under Linux Mint 18.1. > >>> > >>> Graham Tom, Graham : Note the following passage in the article Mike posted to the *Fedora Magazine* : «... And to revert back to the regular interface, just go to *View > Toolbar Layout > Default*.» Worked for me on LO 6.0.5.2 running on Linux Mint 19 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice
M ån den 2 juli 2018 kl 14:09 skrev Tom Davies : > Hi :) > I thought some people here might be interested in another new article about > LibreOffice. This one is in the Fedora Magazine; > https://fedoramagazine.org/discover-hidden-gems-libreoffice/ > > Inevitably there are some questions and such in the comments section below > the article. > Regards from > a Tom :) > > > On 2 July 2018 at 12:05, Mike Saunders < > mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org > > wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I wrote an article about some new/lesser-known features in LibreOffice > > for Fedora Magazine, and included a short section on getting involved at > > the end: > > > > https://fedoramagazine.org/discover-hidden-gems-libreoffice/ > > > > -- > > Mike Saunders, Marketing & PR > > The Document Foundation Very useful ; thanks Mike and Tom ! Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Language not "picked" correctly
Den lör 2 juni 2018 kl 21:31 skrev Tim-L : > > I am currently using Ubuntu 18.04 - - Language - en_US.UTF-8(en_US) > > When I go to the download page for the newest LO version 6.0.4 x86_64 > (deb) I keep getting the English (GB) version files. > > It has shown up with both Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 installs. > > --- > > https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/ > > Supplementary Downloads: > > Translated User Interface: English (GB) (Torrent, Info) > Help for offline use: English (GB) (Torrent, Info) > When downloading LibreOffice from the website, I see a «Change Language» button which allows me to choose among a plthora of languages, including both English (GB) and English (USA). All I need do is click on the desired language Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer interface font size
D en lör 12 maj 2018 kl 14:32 skrev Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de>: > Hi Thomas, > > the feature "scaling" has been removed in LO 5.3. The request to bring > it back is in https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101646 > > Kind regards > Regina > > Thomas Blasejewicz schrieb am 12.05.2018 um 13:08: > > On 2018/05/12 19:00, Luuk wrote: > >> On 12-5-2018 04:55, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > >>> I know how to increase the size of the icons in the menu bars, > >>> but unfortunately I could not yet figure out how to increase the > >>> interface font size. > >>> There seems to be no such item under "Options" > >>> > >>> Could somebody please direct me to the relevant setting (in the hope, > >>> there IS such setting). > >>> Thank you > >>> Thomas > >>> > >>> > >> In Windows 10 you can increase the size of the fonts for all > >> applications using: > >> - rightcLick the windows logo, and choos System > >> - choose Display > >> - under 'Change the size of text, apps, and other items', choose a > >> higher percentage (i.e. 125%) > >> > >> > > Thank you, but that is not what I am looking for. > > Most of my applications are individually set to the (interface) font > > size that I like best. > > I was hoping that LibreOffice let's me choose among some options ... > Like Thomas, I think it would be useful to bring the scaling feature back Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer metrics for document formatting [SOLVED]
Den lör 5 maj 2018 kl 20:54 skrev Séamas Ó Brógáin <s...@leabhair.ie>: > After much trawling and peeking into corners, I find that another > setting has to be changed first for this to stick. > > (1) Tools > Options > Load/Save > General: Load user-specific settings > with the document: ON > > then > > (2) Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > Compatibility: Use printer > metrics for document formatting: OFF > Bravo - well done !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?
2018-02-24 17:03 GMT+01:00 Tim-L <webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > On 02/24/2018 05:19 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > >> On 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a wrote: >> >> since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp. >>> >> Everyone can use Linux, not only developers. I have a degree in >> humanities and have never written a single line of code, but I am a very >> happy Linux user and will never switch back to macOS or Windows. Windows >> XP has been deprecated by Microsoft in 2014, so the operating system is >> not maintained and is not secure. You should definitely try something >> different. >> >> Here is a reply for a few posts. > > Italo > > I use to program main frame computers and my first PC was a PC-XT generic > system with dual floppies. In the past 20+ years, I did do some small > stuff with various languages, but went with C/C++ maybe 10 years ago, but I > am not really a PC programmer. > > I learned about Linux, RedHat and others, in a class for a Network > Technology degree. During the Vista era, I needed to do some audio/video > work and the Windows packages were more than 4 times my rent. I then bought > a "low cost" desktop for a Linux box. I loved all of the free stuff. Then > with the knowledge that half my processing power went to anti virus and > other security packages, I started to use Ubuntu 9.10 on a newly bought > desktop. That one now has 6.25TB of storage space. Two of my laptops have > Ubuntu MATE and Windows 10 installed, and the newest runs only Ubuntu MATE. > > Robert The custom install as you stated seems to come up in Windows, not > DEB based Linux install, unless you install through the repository, and > package managers like Synaptic. > Henri I did not look to see Base, since I did not use it. Yes, the Math, > Draw, and Base, seems not to be installed by default. Since the repository > usually have an older versions of LO. It looked like Ubuntu MATE had LO > 5.1.x as their included version. After I updated the old computer, I > installed 5.4.6. I have 6.0.1 on the laptop I am typing this. - - - - - > Thanks to all your comments. This thread was started when I was given a > really old HP Pavilion alll8x desktop. It was a 64 bit CPU running Windows > XP [32 bit] and only 512MB RAM and 160 GB drive. I found two 512MB memory > modules/sticks and with them I have about 800MB of RAM after the "shared > video memory". I may install a second IDE/PATA drive with a 80GB on. I > really did not want to spend money on this old base model desktop. Since I > really did not want to install XP on it, then use a Win7 upgrade disk to > get a more modern Windows OS. Since MATE desktop environment was stated to > be a good option for the old Win XP users, I installed Ubuntu Mate on it. > Also, even if I installed Win7, half of the processor power would be used > for the needed security packages. I have been adding various packages to > the system; LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, Chrome [for those who want > it], GIMP, VLC, Education software packages, Sound Converter, XPad, font > manager, and other packages that might be useful. I did remove a lot of > fonts like the massive collection of Thai fonts. Over half of the fonts > installed seemed to be Thai fonts. Also, from a different post, I added K3b > CD/DVD burner - that I use all the time. That required some KDE runtime > package. There was a comment about using Kubuntu on the old desktop. I > wanted the system be setup so all the user would need to do is install the > printer they may have. Or use Ubuntu Software Center, and the newer > software center installed with Ubuntu MATE 16.04, to add some other > packages they might want. To be honest, the system is set up to not need a > password to load, but has a root password that is the model version till > the user changes it. > Thanks, Tim, for your reply ! As I said, I am surprised to hear that the default installation from the Ubuntu repository didn't include LO Math and Base (and even more surprised to hear that even Draw was omitted), as when I install Linux Mint on a new computer, all those LO packages are automatically included. It would seem then that the LO that is downloaded from the LM respository is not identical with that which is downloaded fromteh Ubuntu repository, which I find odd I appreciate your comment on what running, e g, Win7 would require on your old computer ; this is one of the reasons, aside from greater general reliability and fewer hassles that I advise seniors with older computers they wish to continue to use to install Mint. But I think you were smart to install those two 512Mb RAM sticks ; that should have made a significant difference in how you experience the new/old box.
Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?
2018-02-24 12:23 GMT+01:00 Robert Großkopf <rob...@familiegrosskopf.de>: > Hi Henri, > > > > Surprised to hear that the Ubuntu respositories don't provide a complete > LO > > package - I install via the PPA on my Linux Mint machine, which is an > > Ubuntu fork, and get everything, including Math and Base. What gives ?... > > Every Linux-distribution does allow to install only parts of LO. There > are different packages for Writer, Clac, Base ... If you choose only the > Writer-packages only the packages of LO will be installed, which are > necessary for Writer. By default in most systems the whole LO-packages > will be installed. > > But: It doesn't make any difference for an old system. Writer will run > the same speed - if Base, Calc, Draw and whatever will be installed or > not. So if you haven't enough free disk space it will be a good idea to > choose only the parts of LO you need. > > Regards > > Robert > -- > Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de > LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 Thanks, Robert, for your reply ! I'm aware that one can choose not to install certain LO packages. What surprised me in Tim's post was rather that - as I interpreted him - the packages for Math and Base were not automatically downloaded and installed, without any intervention on his part. But perhaps I misunderstood Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?
2018-02-24 11:19 GMT+01:00 Italo Vignoli <it...@libreoffice.org>: > On 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a wrote: > > > since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp. > > Everyone can use Linux, not only developers. I have a degree in > humanities and have never written a single line of code, but I am a very > happy Linux user and will never switch back to macOS or Windows. Windows > XP has been deprecated by Microsoft in 2014, so the operating system is > not maintained and is not secure. You should definitely try something > different. > > -- > Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR > mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org > hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 Indeed. While there are Linux distributions which definitely are not for beginners, anyone who has used a Windows OS will find a distribution like Linux Mint 18.3 intuitive and user-friendly, and in my experience, far more reliable than, e g, Windows 10 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?
2018-02-23 22:27 GMT+01:00 Tim-L <webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > > Hey Guys. I found two 512MB memory sticks. It now gives me about 800MB > after the shared video memory. > > Did you know that the Ubuntu repositories do not install LO Math with LO? > Found that out about an hour ago. > Good on ya, Tim ; how does LO now work on that machine (and which version have you installed) ? Surprised to hear that the Ubuntu respositories don't provide a complete LO package - I install via the PPA on my Linux Mint machine, which is an Ubuntu fork, and get everything, including Math and Base. What gives ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My YouTube email showed a German language LO video
2018-02-23 17:48 GMT+01:00 Tim-L <webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > > I get a newsletter email from YouTube showing various videos that I might > like. One of them was a German language video about Calc. > > It is weird to get a non-English video notice, but at least the newsletter > email service showed a LibreOffice video. Hopefully I get an English LO > video notice. > > Here is German video "name" and the URL. Since I do not read or speak > German, someone else needs to inform me what the video is about. Maybe I > can look at an English version. > > "Seite und Drucker einrichten in Calc - LibreOffice 6 (German/Deutsch)" > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAbrnD8nm64=em-subs_digest Set page and printer in Calc Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?
2018-02-23 3:02 GMT+01:00 Tim-L <webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > > I am getting an old HP desktop, that originally WinXP, ready to give away. > > It has 64-bit AMD 3300+ CPU, 512MB ram, and only 160GB drive. It was an > original Windows XP 32-bit OS system on a 64-bit hardware. Since it needs > ALL of the old user's info removed, and XP OS "damaged", It was better to > just make it a Linux system - for security reasons. > > I just installed Ubuntu MATE 16.04 64-bit on it. Their specs stated > 32-bit would be best but the system keeps failing due a SIS630 "module > missing". > > So with these specs, what is the newest version of LO you would install? > With this low RAM, it may not be able to handle the newest versions. As I > type this, the old system is now in the "software updating" cycle. So, it > is installing the newest LO that is in Ubuntu 16.04's repository. > > To be honest, this system is a little old for my needs, but for a free > giveaway system [HP desktop, keyboard, mouse, and a HP "square" 15 inch > monitor], I do not have any parts to upgrade it and do not want to buy any > hardware for it. > > So, what is the newest version I can install without and problems?. > Tim, if you've managed to successfully install 64-bit Ubuntu MATE 16.04 on this system, you should be able to install and run any version of LO - why not take the latest, 6.0.1 (or 6.0.2 to which LO just updated itself via the PPA om my Linux box) ? The only thing I'd recommend beyond this would be installing a bit more RAM. Even if you've made clear that you don't wish to buy any hardware for it, you should be able to obtain some used DDR-2 sticks, which the motherboard is almost certain to support, for next to nothing, which would make a great deal of difference in how you experience the computer (the system requirements for 64-bit LO 6.0.1 are listed as 256 MB RAM, with 512 MB recommended) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Minor (?) LO installation problem
I am very impressed and pleased with LO 6.0.1.1, which I have now installed on both my Linux (Mint 18.3) and Windows (10, v 1709) boxes ; among other things, like v 6.0.0.3, it loads much more quickly than earlier versions. However, when installing the suite on Windows machines, I have encountered the following problem : If I choose the alternative for typical installation (I'm not certain if that is the correct term in the English version of the programme ; I am here translating from the Swedish, as I use that version) in the installation guide, an error message is displayed just before the installation of the basic programme is completed and it is rolled back. This difficulty can be avoided if instead of the standard installation, I click the alternative which allows me to choose certain parameters, in particular to uncheck the box which automatically installs a desktop icon. If I recall aright, I first observed this problem when updating to LO 5.4.4.2 Has anyone else encountered this problem ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Version: 6.0.0.3
2018-02-11 3:42 GMT+01:00 Tom Cloyd <tomcloydm...@gmail.com>: > HUGE kudos to those most responsible for the high quality of this update! > > Have been using this new "fresh" version for about a week. It's markedly > faster opening, closing, and saving my large calc spreadsheet - essentially > my sole use of LO, and used almost every hour of the day when I'm awake. > > No crashes. No errors. Many previous problems just GONE. In the > approximately decade I've been using LO, this is easily the best update > ever! I'm blown away and very very grateful. > > Thank you. > > Tom > > [Running on Linux Mint 18.2] > Have to agree with Tom here - this version loads significantly more quickly than any earlier version on my computers (running both Linux Mint 18.3 and Windows 10 v 1709) and is a joy to use. Kudos !... I've notice one problem with installation of recent LO versions on Windows, but I'll save that for another thread Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem installing 5.4.2 on Win 10
2017-10-15 18:36 GMT+02:00 MR ZenWiz <mrzen...@gmail.com>: > I have a new computer (for my church - I'm the tech guy), a Dell > Inspiron runnign Win 10. > > I downloaded LO 5.4.2 and tried to install it, but every time I start > the installation, it tells me there's an install already in progress > and it refuses to run properly. > > LO is not installed. > > What do I need to remove to get this to function? Is it a registry > key or a file somewhere? > > (I never have this problem on Linux...) > > Thanks. > MR You may find the tips listed on this page ( http://windowsreport.com/another-installation-already-progress-error-windows-10/) of help. Agree that problems of this type - and speaking more generally, others as well - are much less frequent on the Linux distro I use, *viz*, Linux Mint 18.2 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Install of 5.4.1 causes disappearance of text in LO Writer files
2017-09-27 20:37 GMT+02:00 gfriedley <frieg...@isu.edu>: > Okay, thanks, your response is extremely helpful. Regressing to 5.2.7 will > definitely be optimal for me, right now. > > Please, where do I find a downloader for 5.2.7? I checked the main download > page, FAQs, and Wiki FAQs, but I don't see an offering for versions prior > to > 5.3.6. Thanks. > Have you consulted https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - go to a certain page in a text document
2017-05-30 19:24 GMT+02:00 charles meyer <reachmepl...@gmail.com>: > Mark, > > Your suggestion worked perfectly even in an old 3 version! > > I'm replacing my old version 3.1 with the latest at > *http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/win-x86/5.3.3/en- > US/LibreOffice_5.3.3_Win_x86.msi > <http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/win-x86/5.3.3/en- > US/LibreOffice_5.3.3_Win_x86.msi>* > > *Thank you so much!* > > *Best,* > > *Charles.* > Charles, if your machine has a 64-bit processor and operating system, you might rather want to consider downloading and instalingl the 64-bit version of LibreOffice, which, for your configuration, can be found here : *https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=win-x86_64=5.3.3=en* <https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=win-x86_64=5.3.3=en> Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO download sites differ per language
2017-05-26 21:21 GMT+02:00 Pieter van der Burg <bur...@gmail.com>: > Hi, i spent a lot of time re-installing LO on a W10 64bit PC which i had to > reset from scratch (virus). I ran into the following problem (using the > dutch language site): Downloaded ok (only 1 choice, so what). Then could > not find JRE. Repeated the install several times untill i installed an 86 > version of the JRE. That worked fine. But i want everyting to run using the > full 64bits program versions. Through the ask.libreoffice forum i was > advised to look at the english download site. There you had indeed the > choice between 86 and 64 (which you do not have on the dutch site) > Downloaded and worked fine. I assume more language download site have this > inconsistency. It is a good way to scare people away from LO. Someone > should look into it. > Greetings from the Netherlands > Hullo Pieter, The above sounded rather different from my own experience, so I thought I'd check it out by entering «LibreOffice» in my browser (Firefox Nightly) on my Linux Mint 18.1 system and performing a search. This lead me to the English-language interface at https://www.libreoffice.org/, where clicking «Download now» brought me to a web page which suggested Linux x86_64(rpm) as my operating system (it always misses that I have a deb derivative), but allowed me to choose, among other things, Windows x86_64. It then suggested a Swedish-language user interface and Help for online use -reasonable, given my location here in Stockholm - but allowed me to choose another language, such as Dutch, for the download, wherewith I ended up at https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=win-x86_64=5.3.3=nl. Do you see something different if you follow this procedure ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - go to a certain page in a text document
2017-05-25 22:18 GMT+02:00 <libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com>: > charles meyer wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'm in super hurry mode. >> >> Is there a quicker way than this to reach a certain page in Libre >> Writer? >> >> use the "Navigator" to jump to a certain page: >> >> >> >> Hit CTRL+SHIFT+F5 to open the navigator, with the cursor in the input >> field for the page number. >> >> >> In MS Word, you just hit Crtl+H. >> > > In LibreOffice 5.3.0 on Windows, either Ctrl+G or Ctrl+Shift+F5 opens a > "Go to page" dialog where you can type a page number and hit Enter to jump > to that page. I don't think it could be much quicker than that. > > In LibreOffice 5.1.6 on Linux Mint, Ctrl+G does nothing and Ctrl+Shift+F5 > opens the Navigator as you describe. > > It looks like both versions bind Ctrl+Shift+F5 to Navigate > Go to Page, > but the older version uses the Navigator for that while the newer version > has a separate dialog (and also binds Ctrl+G by default). If you just want > Ctrl+G to do what Ctrl+Shift+F5 currently does (using Navigator) you should > be able to add that keyboard binding at Tools > Customise > Keyboard. > > -- > Mark. Mark, I can confirm that running the senaste version (5.3.3.2) of LO on Linux Mint 18.1, the keyboard shortcuts «Ctrl+G» and «Ctrl+Shift+F5» behave precisely as you describe above for windows. I agree that it's hard to imagine anything faster, without a chip installed in the brain ;-) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office saving spreadsheets as images when saving as Word docx!?
2017-04-16 21:14 GMT+02:00 QC <quiet.c...@gmail.com>: > As long as I maintain the object in an ODF format, as a document or a > template, it works as it should. It's only once LO saves it into an Office > 2013 format, that it converts to an image. The Office 97 format preserves > the embedded spreadsheet(s) > . > I see. What I fail to understand is why your client is unable to open a file in .doc format, while the MS Office version I have is that released in 2013, which has no problem opening .doc files and I have forwarded files saved in that format to persons who used MS Office 2016 to open them without difficulty. What version of MS Office is your client using ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office saving spreadsheets as images when saving as Word docx!?
2017-04-16 20:45 GMT+02:00 QC <quiet.c...@gmail.com>: > Ah, well that didn't work. I can save as xlsx, and it preserves the sheet. > I can then embed it into a .docx file, but if I save it or "save a copy", > it converts it to an image. Not the behavior one would expect. This really > seems like a bug to me. Saving an embedded object should preserve the type > of embedded object. > > Even if I link to the external object it still flattens it to a graphic. > What!? It destroys the link! That is not standard behavior! That is a bug > for sure. > Does that happen in the latest version of Libre Office? I'm not thrilled > at the idea of pinning to a newer version of Libre Office, but if it fixes > this bug I'd do it. > <...> Thanks for responding with your experience, QC ! Alas I've never encountered your problem, so my suggestion was not based on any concrete experience on my part. Too bad it didn't work My suspcion is that the embedding process works differently in LO than in MS Office, which may explain - but, unfortunately not resolve - your problem. I doubt that using the latest stable version of LO - 5.3.1.2 - would make any difference, but it would be interesting to learn if, in the event you were to save the document in .odt format, the embedded spreadsheet would still be converted into an image Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office saving spreadsheets as images when saving as Word docx!?
2017-04-16 17:30 GMT+02:00 QC <quiet.c...@gmail.com>: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knu...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > > The document is created in Writer. It has Text, a table and an embedded > spreadsheet. I got it from and OO/LO template document years ago. I've > tweaked it somewhat, but not much. I open it in Writer, paste in the > relevant charges from my Tracking spreadsheet, save it to a new filename, > and then save a copy in Office format for my clients, who use Word and > Microsoft Office. I can't dictate to paying clients what software to use to > open my invoices. > > > I can't just send it in ODF. Unless MS Office has suddenly decided to > support reading ODF files. Last time I tried it didn't. I could send it in > PDF, and will if I have no other choice. If LO can't export a simple > spreadsheet embedded in a document to a current MS format, or read back > what it wrote, then they should not be included as options to export to. > > I use this system for my business. It has to work, or I have to use > something else. > <...> QC, perhaps I misunderstand you, but you seem to be saving what originally was a .doc file in .docx format, because as you say above, «[t]he older Word 97 format is not readable anymore by one of my customers». I was quite surprised to read that, as I had laboured under the understanding that even the latest editions of MS Office could still successfully open files in .doc (and for that matter, .xls) format. Could it be that your attempts to save the file in .docx format is what led the embedded spreadsheet (which I presume was originally in .xls format) to be converted to an image (in which format ?) ?... Perhaps to get 'round your present difficulty you could open the embedded spreadsheet in .xls format and then attempt to save it in .xlsx format. If that can be done successfully, perhaps you could replace the embedded version with the new version ?... Good luck ! Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Slow opening documents
2017-02-21 20:46 GMT+01:00 Leonardo M. Ramé <l.r...@griensu.com>: > > > El 21/02/17 a las 16:23, Leonardo M. Ramé escribió: > >> El 21/02/17 a las 14:52, M Henri Day escribió: >> >>> 2017-02-21 16:33 GMT+01:00 Leonardo M. Ramé <l.r...@griensu.com >>> <mailto:l.r...@griensu.com>>: >>> >>> Hi, I'm using LO 5.3 on XUbuntu 16.10, but this started happening >>> on LO's 5.2.x. >>> >>> When I open Writer or Calc documents the LO window is freezed for >>> about 15 seconds, then it opens the document. >>> >>> Does anyone know why this is happening?. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- Leonardo M. Ramé >>> Medical IT - Griensu S.A. >>> Av. Colón 636 - Piso 8 Of. A >>> X5000EPT -- Córdoba >>> Tel.: +54(351)4246924 <tel:%2B54%28351%294246924> +54(351)4247788 >>> <tel:%2B54%28351%294247788> +54(351)4247979 int. 19 >>> <tel:%2B54%28351%294247979%20int.%2019> >>> Cel.: +54 9 (011) 40871877 >>> >>> >>> Leonardo, could this be a hardware problem ? Perhaps you'd like to >>> tell us a bit more about the hardware on which you're running XUbuntu >>> and LO 5.3 ?... >>> >>> Henri >>> >> >> No, I'm sure it's not a HW problem, this was working perfectly before >> 5.2. My machine is an i5 with 8gb RAM. >> >> What I found is, while the freeze is happening the CPU works at +90% >> (soffice.bin process). >> >> > More info, this only happens if I open the file from command line like > "libreoffice myfile.odt" or by double clicking on the file browser. > > If I first start libreoffice, then go to file->open it opens instantly. > > Regards, > -- > Leonardo M. Ramé > Medical IT - Griensu S.A. > Av. Colón 636 - Piso 8 Of. A > X5000EPT -- Córdoba > Tel.: +54(351)4246924 +54(351)4247788 +54(351)4247979 int. 19 > Cel.: +54 9 (011) 40871877 Interesting ! On the machine I described above, on which I'm running 64-bit Linux Mint 18.1, I see no difference in the speed of opening if I open the file in question in my Documents directory, or if I first open LO and then access the file. In my case, (the Swedish language version of) 5.3.0 .3 was downloaded directly from the LO website Running «dpkg -s libreoffice» in a terminal gives the following : Package: libreoffice Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: metapackages Installed-Size: 13 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com> Architecture: amd64 Version: 1:5.3.0~rc3-0ubuntu1~xenial1.1 (and very much more) i e, precisely what you see, Leonardo Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Slow opening documents
2017-02-21 16:33 GMT+01:00 Leonardo M. Ramé <l.r...@griensu.com>: > Hi, I'm using LO 5.3 on XUbuntu 16.10, but this started happening on LO's > 5.2.x. > > When I open Writer or Calc documents the LO window is freezed for about 15 > seconds, then it opens the document. > > Does anyone know why this is happening?. > > Regards, > -- > Leonardo M. Ramé > Medical IT - Griensu S.A. > Av. Colón 636 - Piso 8 Of. A > X5000EPT -- Córdoba > Tel.: +54(351)4246924 +54(351)4247788 +54(351)4247979 int. 19 > Cel.: +54 9 (011) 40871877 Leonardo, could this be a hardware problem ? Perhaps you'd like to tell us a bit more about the hardware on which you're running XUbuntu and LO 5.3 ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] m$ and munich
2017-02-17 18:17 GMT+01:00 Tom Cloyd <tomcloydm...@gmail.com>: > You guys are missing something here. I don't have the link, but I read a > news report on this (in The Guardian perhaps) which said that what had > happened was that has been a group of conservatives in city government who > have been opposed to the switch to opensource from the start have assumed > leadership in the government. This change appears to be happening because > they are now calling the shots. > > Tom > ~ > Tom Cloyd, MS MA LMHC (WA) > > > > > If they pay more taxes to the city, then there might be a deal to not ask > > for a "tax discount" if the city uses M$ products. > > > > In my city and county [in USA] a big reason we get business is due to the > > governments involved will give then some reduced taxes, or tax free, for > a > > number of years. They do this to help the area employ more people who > need > > the type of work offered. Now we have an arena that needs a new owner or > > we loose a lot of events along with our hockey teem. The new buyer wants > > the city and county to replace the "ice plant" at a cost of 1.5 million > > dollars or it is no deal. > > > > So if M$ moves into the city, there has to be some advantage to M$, since > > I bet that the property taxes are higher than the old location. > > > > > > On 02/17/2017 09:43 AM, H. Stoellinger wrote: > > > >> Well, from what I know, Microsoft moved offices from the area outside > >> Munich into the town. > >> Whether this had an influence on the decision of the city council? God > >> only knows;-)... > >> > >> Am 2017-02-17 um 15:25 schrieb M Henri Day: > >> > >>> 2017-02-17 12:21 GMT+01:00 message <let...@openmailbox.org>: > >>> > >>> Is there a trail of money between m$ and munich? > >>>> > >>>> https://diasp.eu/posts/5166693 > >>>> > >>> > >>> I know of no evidence, but if one is adept at avoiding taxes, money > can > >>> be > >>> saved to use for other purposes : > >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/10/how- > >>> microsoft-avoided-billions-in-taxes-and-what-the-gop-says- > >>> theyll-do-about-it/.. > >>> .. > >>> > >>> Henri > Tom, there have been a plethora of articles on München's decision to switch back to Microsoft, and one of the important factors seems indeed to have been a change in the municipal administration. But from what I understand it was not a new «conservative» - i e, CSU - majyr that pushed for this change, but a Social Democrat (SPD), Dieter Reiter ( https://www.techworm.net/2017/02/first-linux-flag-bearer-munich-dumps-linux-windows-10.html) : «All Munich city computers were running on Linux. However, the 2014 arrival of a new lord mayor, Dieter Reiter of the Social Democratic Party (SPD), spelled trouble for the flagship scheme. Reiter wanted the city to move back to Windows and commissioned a report from consultants, including Microsoft partner Accenture, which said <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-pioneer-munich-debates-report-that-suggests-abandoning-linux-for-windows-10/> staff should be given the option of using Windows 10 and Microsoft Office. Now the administration’s Windows move will be put to vote and if approved, Munich’s desktops will be running on Windows 10 all the way. In the interim, the committee suggested, city workers should still be able to run Windows or LiMux as they choose. “The mayor was against free software from the beginning,” said Matthias Kirschner, the president of Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE). “When he was elected, he took pride in getting Microsoft to move their office to Munich [a move that took place last September]. He even gave this study to Accenture, which is a Microsoft partner.”» Our friends at the Foundation will no doubt have (some of) the details Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zoom control in the 5.3 status bar
2017-02-06 21:12 GMT+01:00 MR ZenWiz <mrzen...@gmail.com>: > Thanks to all who responded. For some reason I don't understand, the > zoom control has reappeared on my status bars, so problem not so much > solved as disappeared. > > Ah well, such is life. > > Happy days! > MR > If only most of our problems would simply disappear ! Or perhaps they do, but we don't always notice Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zoom control in the 5.3 status bar
2017-02-06 18:13 GMT+01:00 Philip Jackson <philip.jack...@nordnet.fr>: > On 06/02/17 16:00, M Henri Day wrote: > > 2017-02-06 13:59 GMT+01:00 Philip Jackson <philip.jack...@nordnet.fr>: > > > >> On 04/02/17 18:25, M Henri Day wrote: > >>> 2017-02-03 3:25 GMT+01:00 MR ZenWiz <mrzen...@gmail.com>: > >>> > >>>> This seems to be missing, or maybe I clicke don something that made it > >>>> go away, but I can't find anything to help turn it back on. > >>>> > >>>> Is this a new "feature?" The help command does not seem to show it > >>>> being absent, but I don't see it any more. > >> > >>> > >>> The zoom button can be enabled by following the procedure outlined > >> here : > >>> https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Adding_Buttons_to_Toolbars > >> > >> Henri, I'm not sure this answers the op's problem. The link you provide > >> tells how to customize toolbars and the op has a problem with the status > >> bar. The status bar doesn't have a context (right click) menu - > >> although some sections of it do and their context allows to modify what > >> that section does. > >> > >> And the other suggestion : Tools > Customize > Toolbars doesn't help > >> either because the dropdown box of toolbars does not include the status > >> bar. > >> > >> How does one modify the status bar to add or subtract different > components > >> ? > > > Philip, you're quite right ; I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that the OP > > was more concerned with the zoom *function* than with just where the > > control was to be found. As I mentioned in my reply above, a zoom button > > can be enabled in the toolbar, but if, for some reason, one prefers to > use > > the status bar, a zoom slide control can also be found at the extreme > right > > of the status bar when that function is enabled > > > > At least it works that way for me in LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 on Linux Mint > > 18.1 > > Yes, me too. I have both the slider and a zoom dialog at the left hand > end of the status bar but I'm working on Writer 5.1.4.2 - the distro > standard for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. > > Your last post seems to indicate that 5.3 didn't abandon this feature > because you have it. The OP did think he might have done something to > remove it accidentally. > > Is there a way for the user to add / remove features (ie customize) the > status bar ? I don't think so. > > Philip > Philip, my impression, like yours, is that the status bar in LO 5.3.0 *cannot* be customised, but only configured to be displayed or not Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zoom control in the 5.3 status bar
2017-02-06 13:59 GMT+01:00 Philip Jackson <philip.jack...@nordnet.fr>: > On 04/02/17 18:25, M Henri Day wrote: > > 2017-02-03 3:25 GMT+01:00 MR ZenWiz <mrzen...@gmail.com>: > > > >> This seems to be missing, or maybe I clicke don something that made it > >> go away, but I can't find anything to help turn it back on. > >> > >> Is this a new "feature?" The help command does not seem to show it > >> being absent, but I don't see it any more. > > > > > The zoom button can be enabled by following the procedure outlined > here : > > https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Adding_Buttons_to_Toolbars > > Henri, I'm not sure this answers the op's problem. The link you provide > tells how to customize toolbars and the op has a problem with the status > bar. The status bar doesn't have a context (right click) menu - > although some sections of it do and their context allows to modify what > that section does. > > And the other suggestion : Tools > Customize > Toolbars doesn't help > either because the dropdown box of toolbars does not include the status > bar. > > How does one modify the status bar to add or subtract different components > ? > > Philip Philip, you're quite right ; I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that the OP was more concerned with the zoom *function* than with just where the control was to be found. As I mentioned in my reply above, a zoom button can be enabled in the toolbar, but if, for some reason, one prefers to use the status bar, a zoom slide control can also be found at the extreme right of the status bar when that function is enabled At least it works that way for me in LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 on Linux Mint 18.1 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Help in version 5.3.0.3
2017-02-04 20:28 GMT+01:00 Bruce Hohl <bruceh...@gmail.com>: > Did you install the separate help package for 5.3.0.3? > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=deb-x86_6 > 4=5.3.0=pick > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 12:47 PM, M Henri Day <mhenri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > After upgrading recently to (the Swedish version of) LibreOffice > 5.3.0.3, > > I find that I can no longer access LibreOffice Help - clicking on the > > Help-button and then LibreOffice Help (F1) instead opens a new browser > > window. This in contrast to the situation in LibreOffice 5.2.4.2, in > which > > the same procedure opens, as expected, to the help pages.... > > > > A bug ? Has anyone else experienced this ?... > > > > Henri > Thanks Bruce ! I had downloaded the three LO packages and thought I had installed them all, but after checking I realised that I had failed to install not the the langpack, but the helppack. That now done, everything is hunky-dory Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Help in version 5.3.0.3
After upgrading recently to (the Swedish version of) LibreOffice 5.3.0.3, I find that I can no longer access LibreOffice Help - clicking on the Help-button and then LibreOffice Help (F1) instead opens a new browser window. This in contrast to the situation in LibreOffice 5.2.4.2, in which the same procedure opens, as expected, to the help pages A bug ? Has anyone else experienced this ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Zoom control in the 5.3 status bar
2017-02-03 3:25 GMT+01:00 MR ZenWiz <mrzen...@gmail.com>: > This seems to be missing, or maybe I clicke don something that made it > go away, but I can't find anything to help turn it back on. > > Is this a new "feature?" The help command does not seem to show it > being absent, but I don't see it any more. > > Thanks. > > MR The zoom button can be enabled by following the procedure outlined here : https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Adding_Buttons_to_Toolbars Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches
2017-02-03 20:13 GMT+01:00 James E. Lang <jim+...@lang.hm>: > That's an interesting point of view Tom. > > In my opinion any unannounced regression is a proper subject for a bug > report and a new capability is the subject for a feature request. But, I'm > not a developer. > > It would be nice if ordinary dictionary definitions applied to the words > used! > > -- > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com> > To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> > Sent: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 7:44 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches > > Hi :) > Right now is a good time to post bug-reports and "feature requests". > > "Feature requests" are what most 'normal' (ie non-devs) of us think of as > bugs. It includes features that used to work but now don't and features > that don't quite work at all. > > "Bug reports" are only things that cause the program or entire system to > crash (or that escalate privileges to super-users/ super-user/ > administrator - but as normal users we probably wouldn't notice such > escalation). In chatting with each other we often call things "bugs" or > say a thing is "buggy" but if it doesn't crash the system or cause it to > close unexpectedly, then it doesn't fit the developers notion of "bug", so > there is no point posting a bug-report about it - instead post as a > feature-request. > > Similarly with the term "stable". However badly a thing behaves, such as > familiar functionality suddenly not working, then the devs don't think of > that as showing the program is unstable. A program is only unstable if it > crashes (or maybe that escalation thing) or if it crashes the whole > system. LibreOffice is particularly unlikely to do either of those things > - there is a measurement of that sort of stability and LibreOffice scores > extraordinarily highly, far above much more respected or well-known > software. > > It is nice to hear about good issues with new the branch of LibreOffice > as it allows us to be better prepared for the questions that 'normal' users > are likely to ask on this mailing list. However reporting an issue to this > mailing list is extremely unlikely to result in the issue being (what we > would probably refer to as being) fixed. > > > Right now is probably the best time for doing proper bug-reports and > feature-requests because it's the time when the greatest percentage of devs > are focused on this branch and most interested in it's outcomes. > > Regards from > Tom :) > The usage with which I am familiar corresponds to that mentioned by James above ; i e, «any unannounced regression is a proper subject for a bug report and a new capability is the subject for a feature request» Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
2016-10-31 18:13 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com>: > Hi, Henri, > > On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote: > > > > Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if >> that's what you're after - are found here : >> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well >> for me >> > > For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it > better. But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old laptop > I have here in the future. > > For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO > Calc on my Samsung laser. > > -- > Ken > Mac OS X 10.11.6 > Firefox 49.0.1 > Thunderbird 45.3.0 > "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash > and it's gone!" > Hullo Ken ! There's a lot of wisdom in the old aphorism to the effect that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and Mint 17.3 works very well - even if I myself find Mint 18 just a little bit better. In any event, someone on the Linux Mint Forum for printers and scanners ( https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=51) might be able to suggest solutions for the specific problems you're having printing from LO Calc on your Samsung laser printer - perhaps worth a try ?... With regard to easily keeping your installation of LO updated on Mint, you might want to consider installing the PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa). I can confirm that it works like a charm, and you don't have to download and install the .deb files yourself !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version
2016-10-30 18:56 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com>: > On 10/29/16 8:04 PM, Girvin Herr wrote: > >> On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote: >> >>> Hi again Ken, >>>There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO >>> very >>> often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a >>> PDF and I print from there. Have just looked at LO and found that >>> when it was asked to print, to either my little Brother laser,or an >>> elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out, >>> just like yours. These results came on a desktop, running MX-15 >>> Linux. Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto >>> portrait and not giving me the option to change. >>> >>> I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP, >>> will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum >>> with an answer. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>> This was brought out in an earlier thread. Go to Print -> options tab >> and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences." >> >> That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print >> dialog. >> > > It does not. :-( > > However, I discovered I can go to the printer's defaults, and set > landscape there, choose the "Use only..." setting in LO, and I get the > landscape layout when the spreadsheet is printed. > > What I'm taking away from this is, it is a problem with LO 5.0.x that > comes with Mint 17.3 Rosa. > > So I still need to go somewhere to find out how I install the current > version after I have it downloaded. > > Thanks for the help and suggestions, everyone. > > > -- > Ken > Mac OS X 10.11.6 > Firefox 49.0.1 > Thunderbird 45.3.0 > "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash > and it's gone!" Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if that's what you're after - are found here : https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well for me Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware
2016-10-20 17:29 GMT+02:00 James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com>: > On 10/20/2016 11:21 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > > Hi, > > > > dam4rus wrote on 20-10-16 09:44: > >> So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender > >> quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a > known > >> issue? Should i report it as a bug? > > yes please report it with Microsoft as their bug ;) > > > > thanks, > > Cor > > > > > FWIW, I have 3 instances of LibreOffice installed on W10 without problem. > Maybe this is a repeat of the old DR-DOS bug, where when Windows 3.1 was > installed on DR-DOS, it would complain about some bogus problem. ;-) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code I can confirm that I have installed LibreOffice (5.2.3.1) on several machines running Windows 10 version 1607 (aka the «Anniversary Update») with Windows Defender activated ( in addition to having the suite installed on several machines running Linux Mint 18) ; on none of them have I hitherto encountered any problems of the type described by the OP Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] error installing LO 5.2.2
2016-10-08 4:03 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster < webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > > > I just removed 5.2.0 and tried to install 5.2.2. Below is the error > message I received. > > I do not know what dependencies are needed for 5.2.2 that was not for > 5.2.0? > > Any Idea? > > I run Ubuntu/Mate 16.04 64-bit. > > --- > > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/Lib/DEBS$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb > (Reading database ... 1847555 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to unpack libobasis5.2-en-us-help_5.2.2.2-2_amd64.deb ... > Unpacking libobasis5.2-en-us-help (5.2.2.2-2) over (5.2.2.2-2) ... > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libobasis5.2-en-us-help: > libobasis5.2-en-us-help depends on libobasis5.2-en-us (>= 5.2.2.2); > however: > Package libobasis5.2-en-us is not installed. > libobasis5.2-en-us-help depends on libobasis5.2-en-us (<= 5.2.2.2-2); > however: > Package libobasis5.2-en-us is not installed. > > dpkg: error processing package libobasis5.2-en-us-help (--install): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > Errors were encountered while processing: > libobasis5.2-en-us-help > timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/Lib/DEBS$ Tim, have you tried adding *ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-prereleases* to your systems Software sources ? Works like a charm for me on Linux Mint 18 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save button
2016-08-28 4:42 GMT+02:00 jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com>: > Hi: > > As I understand, it depends of the Theme and Icon Style that you have > installed in your LO: > > Menu-> Tools-> Options-> View-> User Interface-> Theme and Icon Style > > For example: > > In my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS->LibreOffice 5.1.4.2-> Style Oxygen-> Icon is a > Diskete with Asterisk white with Border green. > > In my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS->LibreOffice 5.1.4.2-> Style Galaxy-> Icon is a > Diskete with a little Asterisk white with Border orange. > > In my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS->LibreOffice 5.1.4.2-> Style Human-> Icon is a > Hard Disk with an arrow pointing down but when something is changed in > the spreadsheet, it turns to Diskete with Asterisk white with Border > green. Then, after save, it change again to Hard Disk. > > I hope this help, > > Regards, > > Jorge Rodríguez > > > El sáb, 27-08-2016 a las 15:00 -0400, Virgil Arrington escribió: > > > > On 8/27/2016 1:50 PM, M Henri Day wrote: > > > Om my 64-bit Linux Mint 18 system with the Cinnamon desktop, when > > > running LO Version: 5.2.1.1, I don't observe any changes to the save > > > button after a document has been saved. But perhaps I'm looking in > > > the wrong place ?... Henri > > > > I wonder how much of this is the result of the operating system. On my > > Windows 10 system with LO 5.1.4.2, I get a white star on a green circle > > green starburst on the save button, which is an icon of an old floppy > > disk on my toolbar. So, I've seen three different results as follows: > > > > Windows 10, LO 5.1.4.2 -- White star on green circle on the floppy disk > > save icon > > Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Unity Desktop, LO 5.1.5.2 -- A small red dot on the > > floppy disk save icon (the Unity floppy disk icon is more of a line > > drawing than a full color icon) > > Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Gnome Desktop, LO 5.1.5.2 -- A yellow starburst on the > > floppy disk save icon > > > > Regardless of my system setup, I'm getting a distinguishing mark on a > > file once I've changed it from the version previously saved. > > > > Virgil Jorge, on the machine I described above, running the 5.2.1.1 version of LO, with the icon style chosen to be «Automatic (Human)», the «Save» icon in, e g, Writer, appears as a sheet of paper with a downward arrow to the right and does not change its appearance no matter whether the document open is modified or saved..., Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save button
2016-08-26 23:18 GMT+02:00 Virgil Arrington <cuyfa...@hotmail.com>: > I should have clarified that is with the Gnome desktop. When using the > Unity desktop, I see a small red dot on the save icon. Either way, the save > icon changes when a change is made to a document. > > Virgil > > On 08/26/2016 03:12 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: > >> On my system, Ubuntu 16.04 and LO 5.1.5.2, the save button doesn't get >> greyed out, but when I make a change to the file, a yellow starburst >> appears on the disk image in the save button. It's not as obvious as a >> greyed out icon, but, once learned, it is noticeable. >> >> Virgil >> >> On 08/26/2016 02:19 PM, CLOSE Dave wrote: >> >>> In the past, when I saved a document and hadn't yet made additional >>> changes, the "save" button was grayed out. This let me know that I had >>> done the save and avoided doing so redundantly. With the most recent >>> versions (I have 5.1.5.2-3 for Fedora 24), that doesn't seem to be true >>> any more. Why not? Can this be fixed? >>> >> Om my 64-bit Linux Mint 18 system with the Cinnamon desktop, when running LO Version: 5.2.1.1, I don't observe any changes to the save button after a document has been saved. But perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Overly aggressive autoformatting issues in LibreOffice
2016-08-26 18:10 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>: > At 16:13 26/08/2016 +0200, M Henri Day wrote: > >> This *Wapo* article ( https://www.washingtonpost.com >> /news/wonk/wp/2016/08/26/an-alarming-number-of-scientific- >> papers-contain-excel-errors/ ) - while dealing more specifically with >> Microsoft's Excel, should, as noted in the next-to-last paragraph, give >> even LibreOffice developers pause. If the claim that LibreOffice behaves >> like Microsoft Office in this particular respect is indeed true, then I >> submit that some attention should be devoted to making turning off >> autoformatting in Calc easier for users... >> > > Surely some of the first things to understand about spreadsheets are that > o Each cell is formatted in some way, > o Data entered into cells may automatically be edited, and > o In the absence of explicit cell formatting by the user, entering data > may also (invisibly) set the cell format. > > If you drive your car into a lamppost or a brick wall, do you call this a > vehicle manufacturing error or admit that not having learned to use the > brake pedal puts the blame on you? Any spreadsheet user entering "MARCH1" > and seeing it instantly converted to 01/03/01 (or perhaps 03/01/01) who > doesn't immediately wake up to the problem with their own skills doesn't > deserve the label "researcher". (Incidentally, I think LibreOffice will not > interfere with "SEPT2" but would with "SEP2".) > > Anyone creating a spreadsheet containing gene (or other) names needs to > format the appropriate columns as Text before entering data. If they don't > carry this out, they should expect confusing results. > > It is certainly true that spreadsheets are a particularly fragile method > of handing data and need to be used with care. Their apparent ease of use > is deceptive: users do indeed need to be aware of proper techniques before > being let loose on an application. They should also be aware of the > consequences of published spreadsheets being moved between locales and to > system with different settings - for example, date origins. It's not clear > to me whether by "supplemental files" the author means spreadsheet > documents themselves or just material originally entered into spreadsheets. > Doesn't the fragility mean that spreadsheet documents are unsuitable for > publication in this fashion and that researchers should know to fossilize > material, perhaps as PDF, for publication? Any reader who wants to develop > the material can contact the author for a copy of the original spreadsheet > document; it is then up to them to be aware of the portability issues. > > I took my new umbrella out with me the other day but it failed to protect > me from the rain. I complained about this failing to the manufacturer, who > suggested that just taking it with me was not sufficient and that I needed > to unfurl it and hold it above my head. Worse than that, they had the > effrontery to suggest that I should have known this! > > Brian Barker > The point, as I understood it, Brian, was that a means to automatically turn off the autoformatting feature in the spreadsheets in MS Office, LibreOffice, and Apache OpenOffice, which could be useful to many users, particularly those writing scientific papers in which the confusion described in the article, is lacking. Note also that Google Sheets seems to be able to provide such a means To imply, as you seem to do above, that users are simply careless in their use of these tools is, to my mind, both false and ungenerous... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Overly aggressive autofomatting issues in LibreOffice
2016-08-26 17:31 GMT+02:00 Wade Smart <wadesm...@gmail.com>: > > I tried - and a popup appers to write down my mailadress and register. > > Couldn't read the text in background. > > > > Regards > > > > Robert > > This is what I saw as well. > We seem to be discussing an entirely different issue from that which I originally proposed. I hope Cristopher Ingraham will regard it as fair use if I reproduce the content of the article below : «A surprisingly high number of scientific papers in the field of genetics contain errors introduced by Microsoft Excel, according to an analysis recently published in the journal Genome Biology. A team of Australian researchers analyzed nearly 3,600 genetics papers published in a number of leading scientific journals — like Nature, Science and PLoS One. As is common practice in the field, these papers all came with supplementary files containing lists of genes used in the research. The Australian researchers found that roughly 1 in 5 of these papers included errors in their gene lists that were due to Excel automatically converting gene names to things like calendar dates or random numbers. You see, genes are often referred to in scientific literature by symbols — essentially shortened versions of full gene names. The gene "Septin 2" is typically shortened as SEPT2. "Membrane-Associated Ring Finger (C3HC4) 1, E3 Ubiquitin Protein Ligase" gets mercifully shortened to MARCH1 Even worse, there's no easy way to undo this automatic formatting once it has happened. Edit -> Undo simply deletes everything in the cell. You can try to convert the formatting from "General," the default, to "Text," which you might expect to change it back to the original characters you enter. But instead, changing the formatting to "Text" makes the cell contents appear as 42615 — Excel's internal numeric code referring to the date 9/2/2016. Even more troubling, the researchers note that there's no way to permanently disable automatic date formatting within Excel. Researchers still have to remember to manually format columns to "Text" before you type anything in new Excel sheets — every. single. time. But even the genetics researchers among us are only human, and they sometimes forget to do this. Hence, you end up with 20 percent of these genetics papers containing preventable errors introduced by Excel. The Australian researchers note that this problem was first identified in a paper published more than a decade ago. "Nevertheless, we find that these errors continue to pervade supplementary files in the scientific literature," they write. Genetics isn't the only field where a life's work can potentially be undermined by a spreadsheet error. Harvard economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff famously made an Excel goof — omitting a few rows of data from a calculation — that caused them to drastically overstate the negative GDP impact of high debt burdens. Researchers in other fields occasionally have to issue retractions after finding Excel errors as well. The Australian researchers note that Excel isn't the only spreadsheet program with overly aggressive autoformatting issues — the same errors crop up in open-source programs like LibreOffice Calc and Apache OpenOffice Calc too. They do note, however, that one perfectly free spreadsheet program did not have any issues storing the gene names as typed — Google Sheets.» Perhaps now we can get back to discussing the issue of overly aggressive autoformatting in LibreOffice ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Overly aggressive autofomatting issues in LibreOffice
This *Wapo* article ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/26/an-alarming-number-of-scientific-papers-contain-excel-errors/) - while dealing more specifically with Microsoft's Excel, should, as noted in the next-to-last paragraph, give even LibreOffice developers pause. If the claim that LibreOffice behaves like Microsoft Office in this particular respect is indeed true, then I submit that some attention should be devoted to making turning off autoformatting in Calc easier for users Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Gmail help - to read and save Libre office messages
2016-08-15 18:20 GMT+02:00 charles meyer <reachmepl...@gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I'm hoping a kind soul can please help me with an old viewing (no the > new image-oriented view) in Gmail web mail so I can read, collect and > file away messages on this digest of messages which will also help > with others. > > I've Googled this question and every result I found was for the new > viewing Gmail, not my old viewing set up. > > I've set up a new label in Gmail webmail so I can move messages read > to a old read messages label. > > Wiki warns about moving your messages to a bundled label -vs- bundled > label but did not explain the differences. I have no idea why or what > the differences are. > > They advise to click on those 3 horizontal lines in the upper right > and check if your label is bundled or not. When I do that I see a list > of Cut, Copy, Extensions, etc. I do not see that label I created. If I > right click on the label I do not see bundled/unbundled.. > > Could you pls share how I can check for bundled/unbundled in a label > under old view? > > Then, how do I decide which to choose bundled -vs- unbundled? > > Once that's determined, can I then place a check-mark next to every > message I wish to move to that label? > > Also, where can I find "Move" in Gmail? I looked under Options, all > over the place. > > Finally, is there any way to get to your 1st page of Gmail messages? > > I only see Older at the bottom of the screen - not oldest or 1st page. > > If I must keep clicking Older it will take me years to get to the > first page of messages created in account many years ago. > > Thank you so very much for all your understanding and help. > > Charles Charles, may I suggest that even though there certainly are experienced and knowledgeable Gmail-users on this LibreOffice forum, you would be advised to rahter post your queries concerning the webbmail service to the Gmail Help Forum : *https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/gmail <https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/gmail>* ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: about libreoffice 5.2
2016-06-30 18:59 GMT+02:00 nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com>: > hi. > thanks extremely for your kind and warm support and suggestions. > virtual box needs powerful system and for this reason, i cant use it. > how can i know about compatibility of version 5.2 with windows xp? > i reported many bugs and also request to bugzilla, but unfortunately > without resolve even only for one of them until now. > whats your idea in this case? > and also linux is suitable for programmers or at least for proffessional > users. > thanks again for your kindness and helping me for resolving my issues! > God bless you all again and i pray devine mercy for you. > > On 6/29/16, Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi :) > > That would be a brilliant way to have it in the longer-term. I've not > > managed to get Virtualbox to use a proper hard-drive rather than it's own > > internal image of a drive but probably because i only had a very brief > stab > > at it. > > > > There are many other ways, such as just using LibreOffice within Linux > Mint > > (or whichever version ( = distro ) of Linux and forget about the whole > > Windows side (except for using the files that will still be on that > side). > > > > A "dual boot" system would keep Windows available and almost unchanged > but > > would give a menu at "boot up" to allow Nasrin to choose to use Mint (or > > whichever) and become familiar with it at her own pace. > > > > > > My main reason for using Virtualbox inside of Windows XP was meant to be > a > > temporary thing. It would just to be to experiment with setting up > > accessibility tools within the OS that is within the Virtual Machine. > All > > neatly still in a working and familiar system that CAN still talk to you > > and make some sort of sense. > > > > > > Moving on to a dual-boot system, or some-such would be a next step into > > Linux-land and away from Xp. Moving from Xp to Linux can be a gentle > > "migration" that keeps the option of retreating back into Xp available at > > all times. > > > > Microsoft prefers that people leap fearlessly into the void with > absolutely > > no idea whether their new system will work or not. That has kept many > > people firmly chained to Xp. > > > > I prefer the gentler approach that Linux offers :)) It's one of the many > > reasons i am happy i made the journey. I still do use Windows but > > increasingly rarely. > > Regards from > > Tom :) > Nasrin, I'm unable to address your question about the compatibility of LO 5.2 with Windows XP with any certainty, but from earlier posts to this thread, I've gathered that this has indeed become an issue, as developers no longer wish to devote their time and efforts to maintaining compatibility with so antique an operating system As to whether operative systems using the Linux kernel suit for programmers and professional users, I think the answer is unequivocal - yes they are. Note, for example that of the 500 fastest super computers, 497 use Linux (the remaining 3 use Unix). As to system requirements - I note that you suffer from certain limitations in that regard - the following are those listed for Linux Mint 18 with the Cinnamon desktop : *System requirements:* - 512MB RAM (1GB recommended for a comfortable usage). - 9GB of disk space (20GB recommended). - 1024×768 resolution (on lower resolutions, press ALT to drag windows with the mouse if they don’t fit in the screen). Notes: - The 64-bit ISO can boot with BIOS or UEFI. - The 32-bit ISO can only boot with BIOS. - The 64-bit ISO is recommend for all modern computers (Almost all computers sold in the last 10 years are equipped with 64-bit processors). If your machine meets the above requirements (which it more or less had to, for you to be comfortable running Windows XP), then you're good to go. (As noted in an earlier post, I recommend Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop, as it is both reliable and very easy for former Windows users to get accustomed to) Good luck ! Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.1.4.2 calc consistently crashing on row deletion
2016-06-29 19:09 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>: > Hi Henri :) > Thanks :) I still think your idea is likely to be the winner, the idea > about switching to using the PPA rather than the upstream version. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > On 29 June 2016 at 15:35, M Henri Day <mhenri...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2016-06-29 16:20 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi :) >>> Java is notoriously unreliable with many intermittently and >>> situation-specific problems. Sadly it's not the case that if it works in >>> one place that it can be relied on anywhere else. >>> It's quirky problematic nature is more like the problems with Flash, >>> only much worse. >>> Regards from >>> TomD :) >>> >> >> That Java causes quirky problems is, of course, certainly true - it's >> just that it's not the first place I'd go looking for a solution to Mr >> Cloud's problems. But in any event, it's easy to turn off and check - if >> the problem disappears, it is solved (and we know the cause), if not, it's >> easy to turn it on again and look elsewhere for solutions >> >> Henri >> > Bruce's «idea», at least as expressed on this thread, but to anyone using an Ubuntu derivative, like Mint, it certainly saves a lot of trouble. Only disadvantage is that one has to wait for the PPA to be updated, but that generally doesn't take more than a few days after the publication of a new standard LO version Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.1.4.2 calc consistently crashing on row deletion
2016-06-29 16:20 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>: > Hi :) > Java is notoriously unreliable with many intermittently and > situation-specific problems. Sadly it's not the case that if it works in > one place that it can be relied on anywhere else. > It's quirky problematic nature is more like the problems with Flash, only > much worse. > Regards from > TomD :) > That Java causes quirky problems is, of course, certainly true - it's just that it's not the first place I'd go looking for a solution to Mr Cloud's problems. But in any event, it's easy to turn off and check - if the problem disappears, it is solved (and we know the cause), if not, it's easy to turn it on again and look elsewhere for solutions Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: about libreoffice 5.2
2016-06-29 16:05 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>: > Hi :) > Are you able to install a Virtual Machine, such as Virtualbox; > https://www.virtualbox.org/ > > and then try out Linux Mint or some other versions of Linux on the virtual > machine? If you can find a version of linux that you like and that works > on your machine then you might not have to worry about upgrading to a newer > machine. > > There are tons of noob-friendly "distros" such as Ubuntu, Mageia and many > others listed at; > http://distrowatch.com/ > The list is in the 3rd column under the header and is the 2nd box down in > that column. > > I am not sure which is "the best" for Accessibility issues such as > screen-readers but i suspect that many people on this mailing list might be > quite happy to give pointers or suggestions about things worth trying. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > On 25 June 2016 at 12:52, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu> wrote: > > > Hi Nasrin, > > > > > > nasrin khaksar wrote > > > hi stuart. > > > ... > > > but the third bug which you sent it for me, shows libreoffice 5.2 does > > > not run on windows xp. > > > does it mean that all features are completely unsupported and the > > > document foundation said goodbye to windows xp for always? > > > could you please send me its read me file? > > > > Not at all. But things are not looking good for Windows XP sp3 > continuing > > as a supported OS for the project. > > > > The Engineering Steering Committee (ESC) "the developers" are aware, but > > decision to officially end support for Windows XP with the 5.1 > > release--that > > is to *not* seek work arounds that would be needed to continue support > for > > Windows XP at 5.2--has not been made. > > > > The problem on Windows XP sp3 (32-bit, as 64-bit XP sp2 is not supported) > > has been that the cURL (libcurl.dll) required for LibreOffice to > > communicate > > with the Update services (since 5.0) and to the Error Reporting services > > (at 5.2) is not supported by Windows XP sp3. > > > > Bug tdf#100295 is already assigned a "Highest" priority and applies from > > 5.2.0beta2 forward. The 5.1 branch is impacted but not broken--but it > could > > be the end of the line for Windows XP sp3 users. > > > > There are several ways this could be worked around--up to the ESC, but it > > is > > unlikely that cURL would be removed, or Error Reporting not implemented > at > > 5.2. So unfortunately at this moment in the development cycle > LibreOffice > > will not launch on Windows XP Sp3. > > > > I just checked the draft "Release notes" for 5.2 (link below), and thus > far > > no mention of cURL support on XP SP3, nor a description of the new Error > > Reporting mechanism. But that is common as we are some time away from the > > final release. > > > > Stuart > > > > =-ref-= > > Draft release notes 5.2 > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.2 > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/about-libreoffice-5-2-tp4187049p4187100.html > > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > Tom, given the fact that Windows XP hasn't been supported (for ordinary users) since 14 April 2014, and thus security updates are no longer being released, perhaps Nasrin's best bet would be to clone her Windows XP installation and replace it on her HDD with, e g, Linux Mint 17.3 (which generally speaking, is very intuitive and easy to use for those accustomed to Windows). Or she might want to wait a couple of weeks until the standard version of Linux Mint 18 has been released (I personally recommend the Cinnamon desktop). In any event, when that is done, she should have no problem installing VirtualBox on that machine, and then installing her XP clone on VirtualBox. LibreOffice can then be installed directly on Linux Mint Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.1.4.2 calc consistently crashing on row deletion
2016-06-29 15:57 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>: > Hi :) > Crashing used to be usually due to having Java active. > > Base often uses Java and so do screen-readers and such but almost > everything 'normal' users do doesn't need Java at all. It's possible to > just switch Java off in just LibreOffice before considering removing it > entirely. If it grumbles then just re-enable it. > > > More likely is that you maybe just need to bump up the settings in > "Memory". The default settings there are for ancient very low-spec > machines and if you have a 1Gb of ram or more then bumping up the amount of > ram that LO can use might well help quite a bit. > Tools - Options - Memory ? or Advanced? > > > Of course crashing could also be a hardware issue such as wobbly > graphics-card that just needs to be pushed in a bit more firmly (while the > computer is off, of course!) - or perhaps damaged ram or hard-drive. These > sorts of things are fairly unlikely in your case i would think and the > simpler answers are worth trying before worrying about any of that stuff. > Trying the PPA is an excellent idea of course. > Regards form > Tom :) > > > > > > On 26 June 2016 at 14:36, Bruce Hohl <bruceh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Tom, > > I just updated to LO 5.1.4.2 from the Ubuntu PPA's on Ubuntu 14.04 > (really > > LXLE Posh). I checked deleting rows from a few worksheets and > encountered > > no errors. If you are using Ubuntu or an Ubuntu based OS you might try > > getting LO from the PPAs per the links below as these are packaged for > > Ubuntu. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice > > https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloydm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > I downloaded the *.deb installer yesterday, and installed it a little > > over > > > an hour ago. It's crashed 6 times in the first hour. No matter how I > try > > to > > > delete a spreadsheet row, I get a modal window with an error message. > > > Clicking that away leads to all of LO just disappearing. > > > > > > Here's my version: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the error message I keep seeing - > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't use this version if it acts like this, so I'm reverting to my > > > previous one. > > > > > > Let me know if I can help any more. > > > > > > Tom > Tom (Davies), thought I'd mention that Java is enabled (1.8.0_91) is enabled on my version of LO 5.1.4.2, so it seems unlikely that OP Tom Cloyd's problem - which, as noted above, I do not encounter - is Java- related. As in Bruce's case, My version (1:5.1.4-0ubuntu1~trusty1) was downloaded and installed via the Ubuntu PPA Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.1.4.2 calc consistently crashing on row deletion
2016-06-26 0:03 GMT+02:00 Tom Cloyd <tomcloydm...@gmail.com>: > Yeah, apparently not. That's just plain dumb. The error message is long > and full of technogarble. I'm not about to attempt to flip back and forth > to another window or workspace (95 mouseclicks, anyone?) to type it out. I > took a screenshoot - two, in fact - and they were part of my now obvious > meaningless message. I guess the server protocol stripped them out. > > Thanks for letting me know about this, and for trying to replicate the > problem, with little information to go on. > > I'm a very busy professional. I just can't take the time to work this out. > My schedule is always overloaded. Wish I could help more with this, but > almost every time I've tried, in the past, the time cost has been > prohibitive. I thought that this time, with the screenshots I'd found a > path, but...not so. > > Tom > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 8:42 AM, M Henri Day <mhenri...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2016-06-25 0:54 GMT+02:00 Tom Cloyd <tomcloydm...@gmail.com>: >> >>> I downloaded the *.deb installer yesterday, and installed it a little >>> over >>> an hour ago. It's crashed 6 times in the first hour. No matter how I try >>> to >>> delete a spreadsheet row, I get a modal window with an error message. >>> Clicking that away leads to all of LO just disappearing. >>> >>> Here's my version: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> And the error message I keep seeing - >>> >>> >>> >>> I can't use this version if it acts like this, so I'm reverting to my >>> previous one. >>> >>> Let me know if I can help any more. >>> >>> Tom >>> >> >> <...> >> >> Tom, neither your version nor the error message you see are reproduced in >> the above. I'm running Version: 5.1.4.2 Build ID: 1:5.1.4-0ubuntu1~trusty1 >> on Linux Mint 17.3, but do not see the behaviour your observed >> >> Henri >> > Hullo Tom ! According to my experience, screenshots, like links, are stripped out on the forum as a security measure. Saving them to a website and then providing the relevant URL in a message to this forum would be one way to get 'round the problem May I ask what version of Linux you are using ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.1.4.2 calc consistently crashing on row deletion
2016-06-25 0:54 GMT+02:00 Tom Cloyd <tomcloydm...@gmail.com>: > I downloaded the *.deb installer yesterday, and installed it a little over > an hour ago. It's crashed 6 times in the first hour. No matter how I try to > delete a spreadsheet row, I get a modal window with an error message. > Clicking that away leads to all of LO just disappearing. > > Here's my version: > > > > > And the error message I keep seeing - > > > > I can't use this version if it acts like this, so I'm reverting to my > previous one. > > Let me know if I can help any more. > > Tom > <...> Tom, neither your version nor the error message you see are reproduced in the above. I'm running Version: 5.1.4.2 Build ID: 1:5.1.4-0ubuntu1~trusty1 on Linux Mint 17.3, but do not see the behaviour your observed Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Good news from the Italian military
LO users who haven't seen this article ( https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/italian-army-switches-libreoffice) will hopefully find it of interest I beg your indulgence in the event that this information has previously been published on this forum ;-) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] update
2016-04-02 12:28 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz <ny...@hb.tp1.jp>: > Good evening > Questions about updating LibreOffice. > In the past I read somewhere that there is an option of "automatic" > (online) updating for Linux, but not for Windows. > In case of Windows I am "used" to download everything from scratch. > > However, trying to set up a Linux machine (Mint 17.2) for work, I noticed, > that the description of the > help documentation does NOT correspond to the actual situation: > https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Online_Update > Choose Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Online Update > > On my LO 4.4 installation on the said Mint 17.2 machine there ***IS NO*** > item called "online update". > > Is there a trick to do that? > > I also just downloaded the latest version 5.1, but that will not install > either. > I am supposed to: > Right-click within the directory and choose "Open in Terminal" ... > type: > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > but get the error: > "dpkg: error processing archive *.deb (--install): > cannot access archive: No such file or directory" > > Any trick to solve this problem? > Thank you. > Thomas > You might want to try installing a LibreOffice PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa), Thomas, works fine for me Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames
2016-03-03 14:41 GMT+01:00 Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de>: > Hi Mike, > > Mike Scott schrieb: > [..] > >> >> Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer >> these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard. >> >> Thanks. >> > > I can easily make an administrative installation of any version I want on > Windows, which do not influence each other. Is that not possible on Linux? > > Kind regards > Regina As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to download (scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64==sv Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a question about libreoffice version 5.0.5
2016-02-24 11:09 GMT+01:00 nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com>: > hi every one. > a simple question! > is openGL checked or not by default in version 5.0.5? > because i read some difference about it. > since september 2015 is checked by default. > and if its causes crashe on start, we should copy one file to registry > to disable it. > and also when i tested version 5.1.0 it was unable for me and even i > could not check it to see what happen! > i want to know is it by default check or not in 5.0.5? > i request you to help me find answer specially the expert users. > thanks and god bless you all. > Nasrin, you might find the information contained in the last paragraph in this TDF article (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OpenGL) relevant to your concerns : Crash on program start As of September 2015, our latest release (LibreOffice 5.0.2) comes with OpenGL rendering *enabled by default*. This configuration might cause problems with certain combinations of hardware and drivers, leading to errors or even crashes. If LibreOffice crashes immediately on startup, it will not be possible to go to Tools ▸ Options ▸ LibreOffice ▸ View to disable OpenGL. In this case, we suggest downloading this registry fragment <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=118060>, which will disable the *UseOpenGL* parameter on Windows. On Linux, open the registrymodifications.xcu file found in LibreOffice's user profile folder <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile#Default_location> and change *UseOpenGL* and *ForceOpenGL* entries to *false*. For more details, please see tdf#93546 <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93546>. Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Inaccurate LO 5.1 warning notice when downloading
When downloading the Swedish version of 5.1 from the LO website, I noticed the following warning : *Detta är den första versionen i 5.0-serien, om du tänkt använda programmet professionellt rekommenderas du använda en mer stabil version från 4.4-serien eller 4.3-serien.* i e, that this is the first version in the 5.0 series, if you were considering using the program professionally we recommend that you use a more stabile version from 4.4 or 4.3 series. Perhaps this warning should be updated ?... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Tooo many messages on this mailing list?? How to avoid being swamped ...
2015-10-18 13:49 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster < webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > On 10/17/2015 10:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: > >> Am 16.10.2015 um 18:45 schrieb anne-ology: >> >>> curiously wondering what gmane is ... >>>curiously wondering what else I'll be a-learnin' today ... >>> curiously wondering what the newest computer gadget'll be >>> ... >>> curiously wondering ... curiously wondering ... >>> curiously >>> wondering ;-) >>> >>> very interesting indeed; >>>and remember'g how file folders expanded to hold letters by >>> same >>> case ... >>> ah, times ... they've been a-changin' ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> Mailing lists and aggregators are tools of the 90ies. Almost forgotten >> in the twitter age. >> > > Not everyone like to use Twitter or Facebook. > > I have not used Twitter in years, and the only reason I have a Facebook > account is for connecting with family and friends worldwide [that share > photos and such on Facebook]. > > Most communications, that are not face-to-face or over the phone, are done > via email. I prefer this. > > "tools of the 90ies"? Well so are desktops, laptops, web servers, and > other tech that is the foundation of what we use today. > > As for "Twitter", well the national news has stated that Twitter, and some > other social media outlets, are downsizing due to the lack of use. > > Also, a case for email lists, it is hard to keep out the "trolls" on > social media than it is on an email list. There has been many cases of > misinformation placed on social media just to cause trouble for individual, > organizations, and businesses. I really do not want to see something like > that for our "help services". > > I may be wrong, by the opinions of others, but I trust managed/monitored > email help lists over "social media" sites for helping me with any problems > I may have with LibreOffice. > Strongly agree with your points above, Tim Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] introducing my self and a gift for appreciation to you:
2015-10-07 18:48 GMT+02:00 James Wilde <james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com>: > Thank you, Nasrin, for your kind words about LibreOffice. We are all > users of the program suite and all very appreciative of The Document > Foundation, which makes it available to us for free. > > Welcome to the users forum. > > James Wilde And thank you, James, for the manner in which you responded to the OP Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Help me please
2015-10-05 19:30 GMT+02:00 Sigrid Carrera <sigrid.carr...@gmail.com>: > Hi, > > Danny replied to me directly, not the mailing list. Since there is nothing > personal or confidential in the email, I forward it to the list. (Please be > also aware, that Danny is not subscribed to the list, his email was > moderated). > > My guess would be, that he has some flavour of Windows on his machines. > How you can disable the functionality, that you cannot install some > software packages, I have no idea. I have seen something similar on my work > laptop, where there are some settings, that are handled / administered by > our IT department, that I cannot change. > > If nothing works, I would vote for re-installing Windows, but maybe someone > else here on the list has an idea how to disable that? > > Sigrid > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: D P <danny...@gmail.com> > Date: 5 October 2015 at 17:46 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Help me please > To: Sigrid Carrera <sigrid.carr...@gmail.com> > > > Hello Sigrid, > > Please find below the famous message that kills my last three days. I am > using 4 different laptops, all of them with MO that i wanna delete FOREVER. > Two of them are 32 bits and the other two with 64 bits. I am receiving the > same message: > "the system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation" > > Thanks in advence > Danny > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Sigrid Carrera <sigrid.carr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > can you describe in more detail which problems you have? > > unfortunately the mailing list software does not allow attachments, so > you > > either have to upload the picture somewhere and just post the link in > your > > reply or you describe with words what you see. > > > > > > /Sigrid > Sigrid, Danny, Here below a Microsoft webpage URL which just might prove helpful : http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-security/error-the-system-administrator-has-set-policies-to/b5350e90-fe4b-4544-8549-20c6a7befb51 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Help me please
2015-10-05 12:04 GMT+02:00 D P <danny...@gmail.com>: > Hi there, please help to get out from M. Office > but your libreoffice does not want to work with me. I have 4 laptops and i > want to do it for all of them, but please see the attached photo. > > I am trying from 3 days agao nowall forums advices etc > > -- > *Danny Pap * > *M.B.A.* > > *danny...@gmail.com <danny...@gmail.com>* > > *Skype: dannypap1* Danny Pap, you might perhaps wish to consider describing your particulö problem in more detail, as well as the operating systems employed on your four laptops Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Font menu display not working correctly
2015-09-03 15:37 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster < webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > > Has anyone had this issue with other Windows versions, or Linux? > > I have not installed 5.0.x yet on my Linux systems, so I do not know. > I have down-graded to 4.4.5 on the 2 Win10 [Home and Pro] dual boot > laptops. > > Hopefully Win10 will fix the issue[s], if it is the actual problem. > > > > On 09/01/2015 06:59 PM, anne-ology wrote: > >> I suspicion this is yet another problem with WIN10 ;-( >> >> reasoning: others have been having problems with non-MsFt programs >> in WIN10. >> > Tim, could you provide a screenshot showing what you see, so that I can compare it to what I see on both Windows 10 Pro and on Linux Mint 17.2 (with ttf fonts installed) ? I'm not certain I understand what is missing from you roll-down font menu Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
2015-08-24 22:59 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) I think it is important to get some good comments in there quickly. It would be good to do this to any other articles about LibreOffice too. It is best to write more comments for articles that are properly pro-LibreOffice so that their authors get seen positively by whoever publishes such articles. Even negative comments about an article increases the authors pay-packet and/or likelihood of getting further articles published. Perhaps help people who claim to have problems in the comments sections. They are probably MS shills (or whatever) but treating their 'problems' as legitimate and avoiding being rude can often encourage people to try LO. The typically rude comments tends to put most people off ime. Even 'just' signposting them (pointing them) to the official website; https://www.libreoffice.org/ and tell them to click on the Get Help menu is often seen as friendly and helpful. I know it's trendy and clever to be rude and sometimes it is difficult to avoid but it puts most people off OpenSource. In the 4.0 review it rankles that ... Err, of course most of his opinions are stated as facts - such as the ribbon vs proper-menu. His problem with the Options pop-up requiring him to fix his Java settings is unique to the only machine he seems to have tried. That problem has never been raised on this list and no-one else i know of or have seen comments or articles from has ever mentioned it. So his mention of it as being a fact that everyone will have to contend with seems a little unfair. However even taking those things into account his article seems surprisingly pro-LibreOffice, in a back-handed sort of way. Regards from Tom :) LibreOffice users might want to note that Nick Heath at *Tech Republic* places it *first* of the five free apps he recommends those who have installed Windows 10 to download ( www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-windows-10-five-free-apps-you-should-download) ; obviously, not all reviewers are quite as negative as Mr Mendelson at *PC Mag*. Myself, I'd agree with Mr Heath, but with one caveat ; I'd put LO in second place - the first thing anyone should do after installing Windows 10 is to download and install Classic Shell (classicshell.net), which provides the user with a genuine start button and start menu ;-) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
2015-08-24 16:36 GMT+02:00 toki toki.kant...@gmail.com: On 21/08/15 11:02, Pedro wrote: I disagree that the UI is the biggest problem... The acid test is whether or not the UI passes or fails Section 508 criteria. Currently, LibO fails Section 508 criteria. (Draw fails everything. Impress fails most of the time.) jonathon After reading through the Section 508 criteria ( http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-section-508-standards/section-508-standards) , may I suggest that the authors, whatever wordprocessor on which they produced their document, have a distinct UI problem themselves ?... ;-) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
2015-08-21 4:15 GMT+02:00 jlwal...@monkeypantz.net: On 2015-08-20 22:10, toki wrote: On 20/08/15 10:12, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: I should get a job writing these kinds of reviews Why are you assuming that a human-being wrote the review? It has most of the hallmarks of a bot-written review. EASY MONEY! The days of the paid, professional reviewer are numbered. From one side, are reviews written for gratis across the social media; From the other side, bots are writing reviews; From the third side, content distributors are trying to slash costs wherever and whenever possible; I miss the depth of old BYTE! magazine reviews. The primary virtue of BYTE! reviews was that there was a sense of objectivity, in what was rated, and how it was rated. There were a couple of times when the reviewer was trying to say the product was good, when their own ratings showed that it was bad, and vice-versus. jonathon Thought I'd share this. One of my latest open source pieces for TechRepublic about LibreOffice 5.0. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/libreoffice-5-0-the-strongest-release-to-date/ Jack On the contrary, Jack, comparing the LO UI with that of Windows, most users with whom I've come in contact who don't use these products professionally - your «average user» - find the former far easier to understand and use than the latter. Professional users soon get accustomed to any interface, even one as unintuitive as the infamous MS Office «ribbon», which now also plagues such services as Hotmail (aka Outlook.com) and then find it easy to use, but this is definitely not the case for the average user. Toolbars which make it easy to find what one is looking for are far better than those that hide them under layers of inaccessibility Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Replace normal font with superscript of only a portion of a term
2015-07-29 12:39 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: On 2015/07/29 16:09, Brian Barker wrote: At 15:40 29/07/2015 +0900, Thomas Noname wrote: Don't know. Indeed it shouldn't happen. Are you saving the documents in LibreOffice's native .odt format or (unwisely) in some foreign format? ODT format. As pure as it comes. There sure is. Search for TM and replace with TM (no quotes). Put the cursor in the Replace with field and click Format... . Under Position, select Superscript. You might not want to Replace All, or you will change things such as uTMost! If I understand you correctly: there IS no way of replacing a string of characters with mixed formatting (like normal + superscript). Incidentally, you very probably shouldn't be using two superscripted capital letters for this, but instead the single Unicode character TRADE MARK SIGN (U+2122), which you should find in all normal fonts. Find this at Insert | Special Character...; no need for superscripting. I imagine that. However, xxxTM is the way the customer itself specifies its product - as a registered trademark. Would it be permissible (for me) to change that? Thomas, as an addendum to Brian Barker's post above, on your Linux system, the trademark symbol can easily be typed in as a superscript by holding down «Ctrl + Shift» and typing «u» followed immediately (after releasing the two keys) by 2122» and taking «Enter» = ™ Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Linux alternative helpsupport
of installs of both types, I've found the Linux installs to be simpler and a lot faster. Windows may get to the login screen a bit faster but then you've got interminable updates to install with reboots needed between most of them. As for needing assistance, I find a lot more problems cropping up with Windows than with Linux. And yes, most end-users aren't equipped to deal with them but that isn't dependent on the operating system. However fixing Windows problems is more difficult and sometimes even fruitless (e.g. Windows Updates that mysteriously fail). I've used Linux pretty much exclusively (except for an income tax program that I haven't got to work in wine) for 18 years. I find Windows to be awkward and limiting. And after looking at Windows 8, it seems to be getting worse, not better. Tom, you might want to take a look at Linux Mint (current version 17.2) ; if you're using a desktop as your main box, I think you will find the GUI - I personally prefer Cinnamon - far superior to Ubuntu's Unity (Cinnamon can, of course, be installed on Ubuntu to replace Unity) and the OS is a dream to use. On my triple-boot machine, it boots (from GRUB), for example, much more quickly than Windows 8.1 Pro, which I keep around solely in order to be able to help retirees with their Windows problems. It doesn't require, as does Windows, that the machine be rebooted just about every time a minor update is installed, and things like the BSOD simply don't appear So I agree with Jack Wallen - Linux *is* the answer to the question of alternatives to Windows. I'd disagree with him just a bit when it comes to «good» and «bad» Windows OSs - the problem with Vista (Windows 6.0) wasn't the OS itself, which was, in fact, a great improvement over XP (Windows 5.1) - try defragging the same files on the two systems and you'll see what I mean - but rather that it was released before the manufacturers of peripherals like, e g, printers, had gotten around to creating drivers that worked with it, which was a real bummer for consumers. Two years later, when Windows 7 (i e, Windows 6.1), which amounted to a Vista SP with a better GUI, was released, those drivers were in place, and everybody, i e, Windows users, breathed a sigh of relief, Then came Windows 8 (Windows 6.2), a relatively minor upgrade from Windows 7, where the MS leadership made the disastrous mistake of forcing the Metro GUI on all users. However, all that had to be done to make the new OS work in a way familiar to Windows users was to install the lovely little shell program from *Classic Shell* http://classicshell.net , which gave users a GUI almost indistinguishable from that of Windows 7. I don't know how many retirees we have saved from throwing their computers out the window by this simple expedient. In Windows 8.1 (Windows 6.3), Microsoft started a slow retreat back to the familiar start button, but even here the installation of Classic Shell was needed to bring relief to users who communicated with their computers mainly via a mouse/touchpad and a keyboard, rather than sweeping their fingers over a touch screen. I suspect the same thing will be true of Windows 10 The nice thing about LibreOffice, is that it works like a charm with just about any OS. Kudos to the developers, and to the people at the Foundation who make their work possible !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?
2015-07-11 1:43 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: On 07/10/2015 02:27 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi David, KARR, DAVID schrieb: I have a PNG image. I need to edit the image to blur out some portions that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG image. Is this something that LibreOffice can do? LibreOffice has only some rudimentary things you can do, for example crop an image, or combine an image with text. It has some filters, but they work all on the whole image. LibreOffice is not designed for editing raster graphics, Draw is a tool for editing vector graphics. So no, LibreOffice is the wrong tool. You can try The Gimp instead. Kind regards Regina The good thing about GIMP, if you cannot find the needed function/filter/plug-in built in the install, there is a large plug-in database site. David, here the URL of the GIMP webpage which explains how to use the blur/sharpen tool : http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-convolve.html Good luck ! Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a PNG?
2015-07-11 15:30 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: On 07/11/2015 04:55 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2015-07-11 1:43 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: ... David, here the URL of the GIMP webpage which explains how to use the blur/sharpen tool : http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-convolve.html Good luck ! Henri Henri - - - Did you decide to send a reply both to myself and the list? That is what you did. One of these days I will read the GIMP docs. I have been using it as a primary image tool [not vector] for 5 or more years of Ubuntu or Mint Linux, with Paint Shop Pro as my default for Windows on my systems. I also add GIMP to my Window system. As for Charles post - - - YES, you have to be careful about where you look for and download the freeware and open source software. You never know what may be added to the downloads. I always go to the official site to download most of these packages I want. To be honest, I have a web page list, which I have not kept up-to-day, where I store links to the more common sites I tend to go to. That way I do not have to remember the exact titles of the software I want to download and not need to Google then to find where to download them. Actually, That whole domain web pages needs to be worked on. So, here it the link to my list. When I have time I will update it. http://lungstrom.com/list/ Yep, that was my intention, as also in the case of the present reply. I hope that by doing so I do not inadvertently offend Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] remove older version
2015-07-04 18:01 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: Good evening I made a fresh install of Mint 17.1, 64-bit on a Dell Optiplex 745 machine. Mint comes with LibreOffice 4.2.6.3. Since there is a newer version (4.4.4.3) available, I downloaded and installed it. However, I now have under (Mint) Menu - Office TWO Libreoffice items each (Writer, Calc etc.). In the newer version I am not able to modify / install an extensions. I get errors like: Error while installing extension Alternative searching. The error message is: an error occurred during file opening The extension will not be installed. Error reading data from the Internet. Server error message: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer. General Internet error has occurred. Somehow I suspect, the old package gets in the way (this kind of trouble with extensions has NEVER happened on any computer with ANY OS before) and I would like to remove it ... but don't know how. Software Manager and Synaptic Package Manger show only ONE version of LibreOffice: 4.4.4.3. Is there a trick to do this? What are the chances this will solve the extension problem? I am also wondering why the newer version did not replace the older one. Thank you. Thomas Thomas, my experience with downloading newer versions of LibreOffice on Linux Mint accords with yours, i e, the new version is installed *alongside* the older one. The latter is easy to remove, both via Synaptic and from the menu. As others have mentioned, installing the LibreOffice PPA is one way of making certain that one always has the latest stable version ; I use it myself. Why you can't get extensions to work on the new version is, however, beyond me ; perhaps someone else who frequents our forum knows Here it might be worth noting that the latest version of Linux Mint, 17.2 Rafael, has now been released with a mechanism that allows for an upgrade to be done directly from the Update Manager ; I did this last night and it took all of 2-3 minutes. The version of LibreOffice that comes with LM 17.2 is 4.4.3 Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Warning when downloading LibreOffice 5.0.0b3
2015-06-15 22:22 GMT+02:00 Niklas Johansson sleeping.pil...@gmail.com: Sorry about that. Should be fixed now. Thanks for the note. Med vänlig hälsning Niklas Johansson M Henri Day skrev den 2015-06-15 15:34: I don't wish to make a fuss about this graphical lapse, which is why I haven't filed a bug, but when downloading (the Swedish version of) the latest LO 5.0 beta for Windows, I note that a warning to the effect that it is the first version in the 4.4 series and professional users are recommended to employ a more stalbe version from the 4,2 or 4.3 series appears, see the screenshot below. If this is also the case when versions in other languages are downloaded, I suggest that the warning text be modified Henri Thanks, Niklas ; I can confirm that everything is hunky-dory now [?] Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Warning when downloading LibreOffice 5.0.0b3
I don't wish to make a fuss about this graphical lapse, which is why I haven't filed a bug, but when downloading (the Swedish version of) the latest LO 5.0 beta for Windows, I note that a warning to the effect that it is the first version in the 4.4 series and professional users are recommended to employ a more stalbe version from the 4,2 or 4.3 series appears, see the screenshot below. If this is also the case when versions in other languages are downloaded, I suggest that the warning text be modified Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] security warning AOO
2015-04-26 11:47 GMT+02:00 Italo Vignoli it...@libreoffice.org: LibreOffice 4.3.7, released yesterday, and LibreOffice 4.4.2, available since early April, include a patch for the issue, and therefore offer a real solution to the problem (and not a workaround). On 26/04/15 11:31, rost52 wrote: Today, following mail was distributed from annou...@openoffice.apache.org. Can LibO users face the same threat? QUOTE CVE-2015-1774 OpenOffice HWP Filter Remote Code Execution and Denial of Service Vulnerability A vulnerability in OpenOffice's HWP filter allows attackers to cause a denial of service (memory corruption and application crash) or possibly execution of arbitrary code by preparing specially crafted documents in the HWP document format. Severity: Important Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Versions Affected: All Apache OpenOffice versions 4.1.1 and older are affected. Mitigation: Apache OpenOffice users are advised to remove the problematic library in the program folder of their OpenOffice installation. On Windows it is named hwp.dll, on Mac it is named libhwp.dylib and on Linux it is named libhwp.so. Alternatively the library can be renamed to anything else e.g. hwp_renamed.dll. This mitigation will drop AOO's support for documents created in Hangul Word Processor versions from 1997 or older. Users of such documents are advised to convert their documents to other document formats such as OpenDocument before doing so. Apache OpenOffice aims to fix the vulnerability in version 4.1.2. -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 Thanks, Italo - good to know that the LibO devs were on to this one !... [?] Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] display
2015-04-22 17:17 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: Good night = morning from Japan I believe I did ask the same question in the past related to an installation on a Win XP machine: moving through documents (Writer) in LibreOffice while editing sometimes (constantly!) sort of blurrs/freezes the screen. That means, characters/lines/text sections disappear, look like smeared ink or are displayer overlapping. The problem is solved, by switching to another Writer document and back. That's fine, but still rather stupid and happens ONLY with Writer (not yet noticed in Calc). Computer: just bought a new one, running Windows 8.1 (= a nightmare!!!), 8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD = OS + 1 TB HDD and probably a whole lot of fancy high-tech stuff I not capable of understanding. So, I would LOVE to believe, that there cannot be any sort of insufficient power. IS there a trick to convince the display to work smoothly??? Thank you. Thomas Thomas, this is a tad off-topic, but since you mentioned that «Windows 8.1 (= a nightmare !!!)», I thought I'd suggest two simple steps to tame the beast : 1. Install Classic Shell from *classicshell.net http://classicshell.net* (elect the Windows 7 interface and change the start button), and 2. Deactivate the superfluous Lockscreen by following the steps found here : *http://www.howtogeek.com/134620/how-to-disable-the-lock-screen-on-windows-8-without-using-group-policy* http://www.howtogeek.com/134620/how-to-disable-the-lock-screen-on-windows-8-without-using-group-policy */* While not, alas, quite as good as dumping Windows altogether and installing, e g, Linux Mint 17.1 instead, it should suffice to turn those nightmares into relatively sweet dreams. I know it has for many retirees here in Stockholm whom we help with computer problems Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Drawing arrows in Writer.
The arrow tool in the draw function toolbar in, e g, Draw or Impress makes drawing an arrow there a breeze, but the same toolbar in Writer (I'm using 4.4.2) seems to lack this particular - and very handy - tool. Is there some way to get around this lack and draw arrows (other than block arrows) in Writer ? If not, may I suggest that the developers consider adding this tool to the draw function toolbar in this LO application, perhaps already in version 5.0, which we have been told is in the works ?... Thanks to all the developers for the splendid work they are doing ! Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Drawing arrows in Writer.
2015-04-16 12:27 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) Good answer and very quick. That makes it sound like it might be a relatively Easy Hack. If so then it helps the project because it gives devs who are new to this project, or people who are fairly new to (or learning) coding, to get practical experience in this specific project. @ Henri please feel free to post a bug report but mark it as a feature request instead of it being a bug as such. Hopefully the new bug-reporting system makes it easy. The old system had feature request as one of the options in one of the drop-downs. If it's not obvious in the new system then just add something into the subject-line or summary to make it clear that it is a feature request. Also if it's a menu item then it might be possible to add it into a customised menu-bar but i have no idea how to do that and find the idea a bit scary tbh. It is always nice to have a work-around or two but it's even nicer when a better longer-term solution is potentially on the way. Being involved in helping make that happen feels really good and is one of the many advantages of OpenSource projects. Regards from Tom :) Tom, the procedure suggest by Piet is, indeed, easy to follow - and, as a matter of fact, is to be found via LO help (I somehow managed to overlook it before posting). But since the arrow tool is found in the draw function toolbar in both Draw and Impress, it should not be too difficult to add it to Writer as well. This would contribute to the latter application's user-friendliness I have opened Bugzilla and shall now file a report, under «Enhancement» under the category «Severity», which is the nearest I can come to the «feature request» you suggested Thanks for the tip !... Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Drawing arrows in Writer.
2015-04-16 13:21 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) +1 Ahh, it sounds like Enhancement is the new word for Feature request. I doubt the severity rating needs to be high and it's polite to keep that as low as reasonably possible but as high as you feel it needs to be. Good luck and many thanks from Tom :) Thanks for your reply, Tom ! As noted above, «Enhancement» is listed under «Severity» ; thus no other severity rating can be assigned. Please take a look at bug 90651 on Bugzilla and comment on it as you find appropriate Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Drawing arrows in Writer.
2015-04-16 13:36 GMT+02:00 M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com: Thanks for your reply, Tom ! As noted above, «Enhancement» is listed under «Severity» ; thus no other severity rating can be assigned. Please take a look at bug 90651 on Bugzilla and comment on it as you find appropriate Henri PS : I was wrong - *after* posting the bug, I found that I could assign an «Importance » to it. I chose «Low» ;-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
