and test it against
some RBLs?
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but not in internal_networks, receive the
users' mail, or arrange for a fake Received line, simulating this, to be
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-bit text. See RFC 2047.
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for BAYES_50 is basically equivalent to lowering the
threshold, which is usually not recommended.
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from domains registered with some registrars are less likely
to emit spam than others.
And I really love the way you completely ignored my example of
gmail.com
Exceptions are possible to handle. After all, SpamAssassin is all about
combining and adding many various rules.
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external server that handled the mail,
and the server you want to check in the case of list mail is not the list
server but the server that delivered the mail to the list server.
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Exim is better
. He also wrote And mostly, they will not tamper with
email headers, that's what the trust is about., but you left that out. And
hosts in trusted_networks *are* (mildly) trusted not to originate spam.
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explicitly overridden (for example when populating a clean
bayes DB with an initial corpus).
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is not going to work. It's the
same thing as demanding that the envelope sender always be trusted by
everybody, but we know that it can't be.
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Exim is better at being younger, whereas
for that. Another approach is to add a few points for
newly-registered domains, so called day-old bread.
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senders may originate from. It's their job to know if the recipient
forwards mail from the connecting host. It can be tricky, but it's not
impossible in principle. Applying SPF without thinking is incompetent and
will cause false positives.
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On Monday 27 August 2007 21:54, Marc Perkel wrote:
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
SPF does not in itself break email forwarding. SPF tells MTAs where mail
with certain senders may originate from. It's their job to know if the
recipient forwards mail from the connecting host. It can be tricky
On Monday 13 August 2007 07:12, Nigel Frankcom wrote:
[20:35] !JamesDR man, who ever wrote this ExchangeSpamC NEVER use
option explicit, therefore almost all of his vars (that he didn't
copy/paste from) weren't dimensioned
Sounds like Visual Basic... ;-P
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server detected your message as spam and has
prevented delivery.
:super:
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eval:check_bayes('0.999', '1.00')
describe BAYES_99 Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 99.9%
describe BAYES_999 Bayesian spam probability is 99.9 to 100%
score BAYES_99 6.5
score BAYES_999 8
(with spam threshold at 5.0 and reject threshold (in SA-Exim) at 7.5).
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to do same thing for high scoring spam. Sounds interesting.
Talk of a mod? It's been a standard feature for ages now. For even
longer with SA-Exim.
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the configuration of Exim or procmail or whatever you use.
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depending on exactly how you've set up your system. Please
ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and provide more details on
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apt-get and has a UI.
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http://spamassassin.apache.org/downloads.cgi?update=200705021400
Any projection when SA-3.2 will be in the FBSD ports? Sent email to
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I'm wondering when there will be a new Debian version. Duncan and Jesus, do
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from it?
Perhaps you know all that and are merely looking for this specific option:
allow_user_rules. It has to be set to 1 to allow user rules. That's strongly
discouraged though.
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spam. Apparently there
hasn't been enough ham matching it in the corpora fed to the mass-checks.
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a separate bayes DB, is
recommended. It shouldn't have to be a completely separate _installation_
though.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -q perl-Mail-DomainKeys
perl-Mail-DomainKeys-1.0
What other package do i need?
perl-Mail-DKIM-something. DKIM != DomainKeys.
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it).
Have you read README.spamd?
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to enforce SPF, they have to allow U to tell
them about this forwarding, so that an exception can be made. A relatively
secure and not too user-unfriendly way of doing this could be with special
addresses on this form: user+forwarded-(secret)@domain.example.
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that it won't accomplish anything that can't already be
accomplished.
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to policy.)
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to do that.
It's common to put || true at the end of a command you don't care about the
exit status of. Or you could just exit 0.
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results?
TIA,
Use rules_du_jour. This will download cf files from rulesemporium
No, use sa-update instead. It can download cf files from rulesemporium as well
as the official rule updates.
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have any to
feed to to the new system. Will that be a problem?
Having too great an imbalance in numbers between ham and spam will bias the
bayes classifier towards everything is spam or in this case everything is
ham.
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character? This particular account does not auto delete any mail,
regardless of score (hey, not my idea, m'kay?)
Yes; see the Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf(3pm) manpage, section Template tags.
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it, I'm guessing it's Postfix.
SpamAssassin always processes all mail it gets and at the very least adds an
X-Spam-Checker-Version: line to the mail header, so you're guessing
correctly.
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score than this?
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5) Good logging system
I think so, but I can't guarantee that there is no MTA with better logging
facilities.
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will not install it, how do I upgrade it properly?
You have to wait for Etch to be released or add a suitable repository
specification to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example one from backports.org.
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), and does
some other minor documentation changes.
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deliverer of mail from that
domain (if it delivers any outbound mail at all).
Would a whitelist_from_mx option perhaps be worthwile?
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to greylist based on blocklists?
Judging from his presence on the Exim-related mailing lists he is probably
using the Exim MTA and its ACL facilities.
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to change the code such that bayes_path can optionally
name a directory? Either by including a trailing slash or by there actually
being a directory with the name in question. In these cases the files would
simply be called toks, seen, and journal, without a prefix.
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locally (not with SMTP), over IPv6
or that the IP address couldn't be extracted for some other reason.
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recommended storing bayes data in a database. Perhaps you can
manage with a single database server; otherwise you can use whatever
replication methods offered by the database engine of your choice.
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classification.
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Yes, it correctly identified that the mail only travelled through trusted
hosts. It also didn't query for those hosts (127.0.0.1 - I don't think it
would have anyway, but it doesn't matter). That's about all it means to be
trusted by SA.
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level.
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to an absolute
minimum. Under no circumstance treat root as a normal user among the rest!
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means to me: Look, I - the postmaster - I'm aware of SPF, but
unfortunately my customers have the need to send their mail through many
ISPs.
No, you say ?all. That means that users may send mail from anywhere, but
then we don't guarantee that it's genuine.
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like 20 years ago. That is what is really
broken.
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the SA-Exim
add-on.
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On Tuesday 28 November 2006 00:22, Chris Purves wrote:
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
On Monday 27 November 2006 16:27, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
You seem to be running Exim with Exiscan. The add_header options in
local.cf are of no consequence - everything is controlled from the ACL
database here. The above means that you
have 72 tokens from 1 ham mail and no spam. 1106663054 is a unix timestamp
meaning Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:24:14 UTC.
su to the right user or use --dbpath (it works like bayes_path in local.cf).
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On Sunday 26 November 2006 14:27, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
No answer to this?
Is this the wrong list to ask code details?
You could try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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for security considerations if you have any untrusted users
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On Friday 17 November 2006 02:44, Chris wrote:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 9:21 am, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
So basically you're right and I haven't added anything. What I can add is
that I don't use DCC myself, for precisely the aforementioned reason,
i.e. that it requires to much fiddling
in one of two modes, and in the fast
mode it adds its own headers, just like Amavis. See
http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/FAQ.php#cs, points 16 and 17. Also lower
the required_score to something more normal.
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, for precisely the aforementioned reason, i.e. that it
requires to much fiddling with mailing lists.
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BAYES_00 or the occasional BAYES_05, then in principle
there is nothing wrong with a relatively high BAYES_50 score (1.0, for
example).
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A better approach however would be to skip running those messages through SA
at all, or to whitelist the sender address (read about whitelist_from_rcvd in
Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf(3pm) manual page. Also, is the server in
trusted_networks?
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, NIGERIAN_BODY1, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,
RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB, RISK_FREE, TO_EMPTY, URG_BIZ, US_DOLLARS_3
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Flag: YES
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if the systems
don't exchange information.
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to be better) classifying isn't used at all, or isn't trained (they're using
Amavisd-new as the interface to SA, which (in a way) explains the slightly
different header format. In any case, you won't get the same results unless
both servers share the same bayes database.
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On Wednesday 25 October 2006 10:44, Chr. v. Stuckrad took the opportunity to
say:
Does somebody have a list for something like
'the best random-generated spam/text'
without polluting this list ?
Perhaps not random, but there's always http://spamusement.com/
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Reminds me of the old line about computer security The only way to
completely secure a computer is to unplug it :p
The ultimate windows security accessory, A pair of scissors to cut the
power cable :D
http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/papers/a1-firewall/
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On Sunday 15 October 2006 20:49, Magnus Holmgren took the opportunity to say:
Apparently, when sa-learn reads a message from stdin, for some reason the
entire header, and possibly even the empty line separating it from the
body, disappears. Or at least $msg-get_header(Date) and
$msg-get_header
computer with
Windows XP I used recently was that unauthorised installations only get
critical updates, but they do get those. Is that going to change with Vista?
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On Monday 23 October 2006 21:58, Peter H. Lemieux took the opportunity to say:
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
I thought they did? At least the message from WU/WGA on one computer with
Windows XP I used recently was that unauthorised installations only get
critical updates, but they do get those
(if
the server has crappy spam protection and the MLM doesn't probe before
unsubscribing).
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On Thursday 19 October 2006 06:39, Jo Rhett took the opportunity to say:
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
OK, the attacker might have 100 zombies on different ISPs, with each
ISP's smarthost helping amplify the attack a bit. But does that really
count? The servers making the callouts aren't the ones
with ESMTP id 1234-567-9 and my.domain.example resolves to
a local interface address?
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cause a DoS against the guy who lended his address, at no additional
cost, especially if the callouts are done too early.
(Then there is SPF...)
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?
That is possible, yes. It can also be that the messages are too big (over 250
kB, usually). But again it depends on how SA is called.
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the mail through spamd, but instead just gives it to spamd,
gets the score back and adds its own headers. Have you checked the log files
(typically /var/log/mail.log)?
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for
this list:
bayes_ignore_to users@spamassassin.apache.org
bayes_ignore_to spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org
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Too bad it not only turns off autolearning, but also bayes scoring. Or maybe
it isn't that bad?
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On Wednesday 18 October 2006 19:41, Jo Rhett took the opportunity to say:
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
The thing with e.g. the DNS-based DDoS attacks that became common a while
ago is that there is a considerable bandwidth amplification; you send a
small query packet with a forged sender address
would anyone want to obfuscate the word please
anyway? Except in certain phrases, maybe.
Perhaps some general rules should be made specific to English mail?
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/spamassassin/FixingAllTrusted and
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath.
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reading the source, get_msg() in Mail::SpamAssassin::Bayes
is used in both cases. So why does it make up different IDs?
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On Sunday 15 October 2006 16:55, Magnus Holmgren took the opportunity to say:
Indeed, when I did spamassassin -D bayes testmessage the debug output
reported learning from a different @sa_generated message ID
than sa-learn -D bayes --forget said it was trying to forget (but didn't
find
On Sunday 15 October 2006 21:38, jdow took the opportunity to say:
From: Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sunday 15 October 2006 16:55, Magnus Holmgren took the opportunity to
say:
Indeed, when I did spamassassin -D bayes testmessage the debug output
reported learning from a different
Header only
and three of Christopher Martin's
Careful with that regex!
Ha! I got *six* copies of one mail, and four of another.
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spamassassin with an email containing
headers, or is something broken with my setup?
SA didn't find a jump from an external host to an internal one. Have you set
up trusted_networks and/or internal_networks correctly?
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On Saturday 07 October 2006 22:36, Tomasz Chmielewski took the opportunity to
say:
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
On Friday 06 October 2006 11:47, Tomasz Chmielewski took the opportunity
to
say:
When I test spamassassin setup by running spamassassin -D --lint, I
get these complaints about
/dbcheck-invalidipwhois.cgi?IP=65.119.30.206
Apparently the listing, which was imported from rfc-ignorant.org two years
ago, is obsolete.
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on your MTA/MDA setup. SpamAssassin scans everything that
gets thrown on it. You have to tell us more or go ask the appropriate mailing
list.
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haven't got a
clue how fault find
what's going wrong?
Have you checked out http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UsingSpamAssassin
(Spam getting through?)?
If you need more help you can attach one or two spam mails for us to analyze.
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checks dont work unless you do the checks on
the receiving host.
SPF checks work (since the information needed is included in a Received: line
that can be trusted), but you can't reject mail at SMTP time based on the
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be in
internal_networks (which default to trusted_networks, however).
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to be created, but for the files the x bits are masked off. Why would
you want the databases to be executable?
For auto_whitelist_file_mode, no matter what I set, it only becomes 0640.
The same should be true for this one.
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end.
This has been mentioned before on this list and I have added such rules
locally. Question: Wouldn't it be wise to add them to the standard
distribution as well?
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phishers, has anyone thought about spamming them with phony
personal data? It's probably not very effective with things that can
automatically and instantly be verified, such as eBay credentials, but
perhaps more effective with credit card numbers?
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Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 17:43, Gino Cerullo took the opportunity to say:
On 29-Aug-06, at 7:49 AM, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
On Monday 28 August 2006 01:00, Chris took the opportunity to say:
This is a pretty good fake site except he left a little something
from
Mother Russia at the bottom
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