Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-11 Thread jori.hamalainen
> People I know dealing with this issue pad the channel numbers > by adding a set number. For example, if provider A and provider > B both use - for their channel numbers, the user pads > one of the providers by adding say 1 to the channel numbers > thus having one provider retain

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-08 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Halim Sahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi vdr user Hi. > Outdated regular integer uy it works and it is easy to handle. Regular integers are whole numbers. 6.1 for example, is not a whole number. > aha you can decide that this subnumbering stuff is better?

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-08 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
The remotes that come with Nexus video cards have a telephone stile num pad with both "*" and "#" - Original Message - From: "Udo Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "VDR Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [v

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-08 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi vdr user On Sa, Mär 08, 2008 at 09:47:01 -0800, VDR User wrote: > replace the outdated regular integers with something better suited for > the task. Outdated regular integer uy it works and it is easy to handle. aha you can decide that this subnumbering stuff is better? Sorry vdr works great

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-08 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/08/08 18:47, VDR User wrote: > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Udo Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And don't even think about using floating point numbers for channels. >> Why? For example, because there is no floating point representation for >> 1.1, the nearest binary floats are 1.

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-08 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Udo Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And don't even think about using floating point numbers for channels. > Why? For example, because there is no floating point representation for > 1.1, the nearest binary floats are 1.09986677 and > 1.10

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-08 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Udo Richter wrote: > The most realistic way to implement this is to add yet another 'name' > system for channels, so that the VDR-internal channel 15 is > 'KUAT'/'6.0'. That way, VDR could continue to use the 'simple' > numbering, and just the channel switching would use the ne

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-08 Thread Udo Richter
Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > which, but not all, will be shut down in a year. For ATSC .1 is the primary > channel and .2, .3, etc are the sub channels. The "#" on the remote could > be used for the "." In the channels.conf an ATSC next channel number would > look like: > :@13.1 Well, at least I've n

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
ot;VDR Mailing List" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system > Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > > Would it be possible to add support for the subchannel numbering system used > > with ATSC? Exmple of the channels in our area: > >

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
minor though as those seem to tend to be data channels with nothing on them. - Original Message - From: "VDR User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "VDR Mailing List" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system > On Fri, Ma

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
nis Potgieter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "VDR Mailing List" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system > So if provider 1 broadcasts a 2.1 channel and provider 2 also > broadcasts a 2.1 channel and you as a vdr user can have mo

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Alex Lasnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since VDR needs to be patched for ATSC anyway, I'll consider adding > sub-channel support in the next ATSC patch. But my first impression is > that such a change will likely be very ugly and break many things... > > Howev

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Alex Lasnier
Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > Would it be possible to add support for the subchannel numbering system used > with ATSC? Exmple of the channels in our area: Since VDR needs to be patched for ATSC anyway, I'll consider adding sub-channel support in the next ATSC patch. But my first impression is that s

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Theunis Potgieter
Then perhaps the core should expose the required features, so that Klaus can keep it his default way but a plugin can extend without having to patch the core. The end user can then choose from a range of plugins for his/her provider(s) in the way they think is best. On 3/7/08, VDR User <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Theunis Potgieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if provider 1 broadcasts a 2.1 channel and provider 2 also > broadcasts a 2.1 channel and you as a vdr user can have more than 1 > provider. What will the channel numbering scheme be for Provider 2? > Will this in

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Channel numbers are *numbers*, *integer* numbers! > There's a first channel, and a second one, and a third one, > and they are numbered 1, 2 and 3. Now what's a "2.1" channel? > Is that "ten percent more than the second channel"? Well, integer channe

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Theunis Potgieter
So if provider 1 broadcasts a 2.1 channel and provider 2 also broadcasts a 2.1 channel and you as a vdr user can have more than 1 provider. What will the channel numbering scheme be for Provider 2? Will this introduce a bouqet in vdr? On 3/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On F

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > VDR stores channel numbers as integers. So if you want to > have a numbering scheme where you have channels "between" other > channels, you need to make room for these additional entries. > And the only way I see to

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread jhall
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 04:57:50PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/07/08 16:31, VDR User wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Klaus Schmidinger > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 03/06/08 21:13, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > >> > Well, ".", "#", "*", something in the channels.conf. "

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Theunis Potgieter
So what happens when the sub number was 2.10 is it now 21? And 2.11 becomes 21? I don't understand why there are such numbers to begin with. Why not just map 2.1 to the next available open number, giving the user the choice to move the channels in any order afterwards? my 2c On 3/7/08, Klaus Sch

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 16:31, VDR User wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Klaus Schmidinger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 03/06/08 21:13, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: >> > Well, ".", "#", "*", something in the channels.conf. "0" is not a valid >> > notation because 0 is part of the number system. 40

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/06/08 21:13, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > > Well, ".", "#", "*", something in the channels.conf. "0" is not a valid > > notation because 0 is part of the number system. 40 won't work for KVOA > > because 40 is KHR

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Ed Hein
Hi! On Thursday 06 March 2008 21:13:25 Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > Well, ".", "#", "*", something in the channels.conf. "0" is not a > valid notation because 0 is part of the number system. 40 won't work > for KVOA because 40 is KHRR. And when displayed it should be "." We are talking about channel

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
be "." Well, 40 would become 400, accordingly. Just add a 0 to each channel number (or two zeros, if you have two digit sub channel numbers). Klaus > - Original Message - > From: "Klaus Schmidinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 0

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-06 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Timothy D. Lenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like it or not Sub channels are here to stay and the "." is the standard for > denoting a sub number. "vdr-1.5.15" Can't argue with that! ;) ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-06 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
Like it or not Sub channels are here to stay and the "." is the standard for denoting a sub number. "vdr-1.5.15" - Original Message - From: "Klaus Schmidinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [vdr] sub chann

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-06 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
t;Klaus Schmidinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system > On 03/06/08 00:49, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > > Would it be possible to add support for the subchannel numbering system used > > with

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/06/08 17:36, VDR User wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Klaus Schmidinger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't like that dot notation. >> >> You could add a '0' to the old channels and leave out the '.', as in >> >> 40KVOA >> 41KVOAD >> 60KUAT >> 61KUATD1 >>

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-06 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't like that dot notation. > > You could add a '0' to the old channels and leave out the '.', as in > > 40KVOA > 41KVOAD > 60KUAT > 61KUATD1 > 62KUATK > 63KUATV > 64KUATC > 90

Re: [vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/06/08 00:49, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > Would it be possible to add support for the subchannel numbering system used > with ATSC? Exmple of the channels in our area: > > 4 KVOA > 4.1KVOAD > 6 KUAT > 6.1KUATD1 > 6.2KUATK > 6.3KUATV > 6.4KUATC > 9 KGUN > 9.1

[vdr] sub channel numbering system

2008-03-05 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
Would it be possible to add support for the subchannel numbering system used with ATSC? Exmple of the channels in our area: 4 KVOA 4.1KVOAD 6 KUAT 6.1KUATD1 6.2KUATK 6.3KUATV 6.4KUATC 9 KGUN 9.1KGUND 11 KMSB 11.1 KMSBH 13 KOLD 13.1 KOLD-DT 14