Re: [VFB] Don Ordes news

[Scott Bearden]

We have lost a lot of good friends this year. I hope Don finds willing
trout rising to dry flies in heaven.

Scott

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 7:26 AM Jack Harford 
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> May Don Ordes have a peaceful and pleasant journey to beautiful streams of
> love in the next world.
>
> God Bless You Don,
> Jack
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:09 AM Beer mit  wrote:
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>> Yes. Last week. Great shame.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Reuven
>>
>> > On 24 Dec 2020, at 0:39, Byard Miller  wrote:
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Scott Bearden]

Even more important I make Sowbug in 2021. I just got a phone call with the
sad news. Im still in shock.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 10:14 AM Gary Webb  wrote:

> Sad news indeed.   Thanks for letting us know.
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:55 AM Peggy Brenner 
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>> For those who are not on FB, Tony died in his sleep last night.  I
>> visited them at the home in early March as I was in Mountain Home for a
>> ladies fly tying event. He was determined to make 90 but didn't seem to
>> have a plan other than getting home after that. Going home was not an
>> option without live in care, but the home was very nice and everyone knew
>> both of them as the employees lived local as well.
>>
>> Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of
>> silence in his honor and before we all get to 90.
>>
>> Peggy
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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>>> Thanks for the info. Not what  I wanted to hear.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 06:16:10 PM CDT, Scott Bearden <
>>> scott.bear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.
>>>
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>>> From: *Mike Stout *
>>> Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>>> Subject: Tony Spezio
>>>
>>> For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had
>>> to
>>> have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
>>> heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son
>>> in
>>> law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There
>>> is
>>> also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30
>>> days.
>>> They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
>>> second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently
>>> on
>>> the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
>>> have more information.
>>>
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[VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Scott Bearden]

FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.

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Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
Subject: Tony Spezio

For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had to
have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30 days.
They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently on
the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
have more information.

Mike

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Re: [VFB] Birthday

[Scott Bearden]

Thank you Rick!

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

[Scott Bearden]

Tony,

I am praying for you and Dot. Just take this one day at a time. I wished I
lived closer to help you guys out.

Regards,

Scott

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> My wife Dot fell at the nursing home Yesterday and has arm injury and
> broke her hip. Is now prepped for surgery first thing in the morning.
> We are both in the same hospital.
> Arkansas Tony
>
> On Sunday, January 5, 2020, 10:06:58 PM CST, Allan Fish <
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> Tony Spezio called me tonight.  He is currently in the hospital at
> Mountain Home.  He is suffering from congestive heart failure, massive
> urinary tract infection, pneumonia and his kidneys are failing.   He
> will be in the hospital several days then moved to the same nursing home
> that his wife Dot is in.
>
> For those of you who haven't heard, Dot has suffered a massive stroke
> and can not talk.
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> I hate to say this but it doesn't look good at this point in time.
>
> Allan
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Re: [VFB] Scott Bearden

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Thank you Rick!

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> Have a Happy Birthday.
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Re: [VFB] Great news

[Scott Bearden]

See you in a couple of weeks Tony! I am so glad you are home.

Scott

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:11 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Way to go Tony.  Don't overdo but keep going.
>
> Mike
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>> Day 4 at home, great to be here.
>> Have to learn some new ways to do some things but I will do that.
>> I did attend the FFF Fly Fair for a few hours on Friday, found I was too
>> shakey to tie.
>> Tony
>>
>> On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 10:14:03 AM CDT, Michael Bliss <
>> flyfish...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> We love you Tony
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 7:46 AM Phxflytyer  wrote:
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>> TNX Allan
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 6, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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>> > Tony Spezio is HOME!  At last!   It's been nearly 3 months.
>> >
>> > He's back on-line.
>> >
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

[Scott Bearden]

This is fantastic news!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 2:38 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> I just got a call from Tony.  He called Sunday and said that he felt
> like the walls are closing in on him.  He has not been home for 3
> months.  But today they told him he can go home a week from tomorrow.
> He is really excited.
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[VFB] Tony Spezio update

[Scott Bearden]

Hi everyone,

I am cross posting this from bamboo rodmakers list from yesterday. Keep
Tony in your prayers:

"Texted with Gina this morning, and Tony has had surgery. Originally were
going to take a toe but complications required the surgeons to take his
lower leg up to mid-shin. Gina reports his vitals are stable as of 10:42
MST today, 8/19/18.

-Don Smith"

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Tony S.

[Scott Bearden]

Tony,

If you are reading this please know you are always in my thoughts and
prayers. I hope you have a speedy recovery and look forward to spending
some time with you at SRG.

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [VFB] RE: anyone ever injure their tying arm?

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Wayne,

I know that you are not a Veteran, but take solace in knowing this is
exactly the sort of thing Project Healing Waters does all the time. The
road to recovery may be long and painful but you already have a leg up on
the situation by having a hobby such as this to help the healing process.
The dexterity and eye hand coordination and motor skills you will need to
rehabilitate translate well to fly tying. I hope your recovery goes well
and that you are back to fly fishing, kayaking and bike riding in the
coming months. If there is anything I can do to help just remember that I
am local and give me a shout.

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Copyright and discussion forums...

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Consider water marking your photos with your website or company name and
copyright year. I was always told that in the world of flies you can
copyright a fly by name but not really patent one. All it would take is
someone to change one material or change the quantity or size in a material
used. Tie it in another sequence, color, etc and the patent is useless. But
your picture is your picture and the laws are a little more straight
forward in regards to pictures. Watermark them so that if someone does link
to your server as they have done in the past or outright download the
images and then upload them somewhere else that there is at least a visual
clue to the reader what is really going on. You are due fair credit for
creation of those flies and there should be some ethics on the part of the
forum in question in giving and ensuring due credit is given. Now if
someone ties and photographs say an old but publicly known fly then the
credit to the pattern should go to the originator and the credit for the
photo (and tyer) should go to that individual. Please note that if you post
pictures to social media (including said forum) that generally in the fine
print you can find some legalese that claims ownership of everything you
post including pictures. Some media companies scour social networks for
original artwork to use in magazines, websites, etc. So be careful what you
post online because unless you own the server there is a good chance that
you don't own what you post there. And if set to publicly available, if may
even be interpreted as public domain. I can tell you without a doubt that
Facebook, twitter, etc all claim ownership over what you upload whether you
delete it or not (they don't really delete anything, just hide it). I think
we may find some humor and plenty of fodder for people seeking public
office, especially 20 - 30 years from now when many people don't take what
they post online very seriously. This is still the early days of social
media. I will say that Facebook does provide provisions on how to handle
theft of copyrighted material including words and photos, but you must
prove that you are the rightful owner. Nobody but you can file a claim.
YouTube has the same mechanisms and probably a few others.

I once used the Chilipepper and a picture from Tony's vise of one he tied
in a newsletter but I attributed both the pattern and photo to him. I think
it is important to society to give credit where it is due.

Scott

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 Nick:

 There is strength in numbers and if it is indeed the flytyingforum.com
 we could ask the VFB members individually to e-mail the administrator and
 tell him as Wes suggests to “Cease  Desist” displaying your photograph
 without your permission. I now place a copyright symbol on my photos
 together with my name. They can still crop it out or photoshop it, but each
 photo normally has metadata attached to it which should include the
 original creation date and camera used.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling


 On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote:

 Doesn't really matter now. I got banned for thinking that I still owned
 the riights to my photo... :(


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 Hi Nick:

 I’m guessing that you are referring to the flytyingforum.com that also
 has a fly pattern database that patterns may be uploaded to?



 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver
 BC  Canada




 On Jul 27, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com
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 So, guys - here's one for you...

 Background:
 I'm getting tired of people posting my flies and stating that they are
 their own. The more flies with different owners showing up in picture
 searchs makes the ownership of the material on my own website unclear.
 I know what copyright is about and until today I thought it was the same
 over there but on a certain discussion forum where you also can upload
 patterns to a pattern database I ran into a brick wall. The discussion with
 the administrator has been ridiculous But as an administrator I'd like to
 assume that he should have some knowledge about rules and laws... and since
 he's not bending one inch (and getting more and more rude), it's not that I
 start to wonder if I'm wrong myself.

 Someone else has used a photo (taken by myself) from my site and used it
 for uploading a pattern in the forum's pattern database. First he thought I
 meant that it was my pattern and he wanted to see a patent ID. I explained
 that the pattern was beside the point and that it was the picture that was
 the issue. I think I got that through. But he's still wants to see a patent
 ID to remove it or stop wasting his time because I'm bringing up shit that
 noone but I even care about.

 Question:
 Is copyright different in US. Has a US discussion forum more rights than
 a private person to publish copyrighted pictures?

 /Nick



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Re: [VFB] Was Birdie Kelly Pics - Now Lightroom.

[Scott Bearden]

http://www.gimp.org/ You will thank me later. This is an open source and
FREE program for professional photo editing.

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 On 5/27/15 7:16 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
  It is rumoured that Lightroom 6 may be the last time that it can be
 purchased as a software program on a disc and all future version will be
 web based. I suspect that Adobe makes more $$$ that way.
 Nev,

 I just looked up the price for Lightroom.  I don't do enough
 photographic manipulation to justify buying it in any shape or form.

 Y-A-K!!  I could buy a really nice fly rod for that price. g

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Re: [VFB] RE:SowBug Roundup 2015

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This is how it works: If I bring my fishing gear the river will be a raging
torrent and completely unfishable. If I leave my gear at home, it will be
the best 3 days of fishing all year long. Story of my life.

Scott

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 They have been good for the past few days.
 Tony

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 WE are already in Bull Shoals, the water levels are good for fishing
 this year!
 
 Peggy
 
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 just feels like spring always  arrives when I return home.
 
 
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Re: [VFB] RE:Scott Bearden

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I have no idea how I missed this but then again I have been in lurker mode
for so long that most people probably wonder who I am. Thank you Wayne. It
was a pretty cruddy week but in the big scheme of things a birthday is
really just another day. I sincerely appreciate it though and can't wait to
get together again. We need to catch up some time.

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???

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I second what Gary just said. You can find it for fairly cheap too.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:27 PM, aflyt...@comcast.net wrote:

 Chuck
 Get a copy of A.K. Best's book DYING  BLEACHING Natural fly-tying
 materials.  Feathers and cotton do not dye the same way.  Best has full
 instructions and will take you through it step by step.
 Gary s

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 demin material he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the
 three gallons or so of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde
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 if the material is silk or wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a
 boil, then let it soak all day. Still just came out a darker purple and NIT
 jet black like the dye is.

 Now is my problem in that. He saved the water as I have a ton of grizzly
 feathers, but hardly any black, so I was just going to sye a grizzly neck
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Re: [VFB] Summary of Are we to Old Survey

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Yeah I feel like I am 18 years old again. I am telling you I found the
fountain of youth and now I am helping others do the same.

I don't mind being the list baby. It is an honor. We need more youth in our
sport. Despite the aggravation it caused, A River Runs through it breathed
new life into an industry that was probably on the brink of dying by giving
a lot of 30, 40, and 50 yr old guys something different to take up than
golf. It became trendy and probably saved a lot of small towns and fly
shops that were struggling up to that point. I think we are slowly
shrinking again. Kids just don't enjoy or have access to the outdoors as
much any more. I think programs like Project Healing Waters and Reel
Recovery and Casting for Recovery have helped bring in new people who are
passionate about the sport whereas the attrition rate with kids and teens
may be fairly low. But I still feel like our sport is shrinking.

Scott


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 With your recent fitness changes you could probably pass for ten years
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Re: [VFB] Summary of Are we to Old Survey

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Scott Bearden 37

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Re: [VFB] Summary of Are we to Old Survey

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Nope. I just turned 37 back in February. It is what it is. But I am with
Mel. I am ageless too. I feel like I am 18 yrs old.


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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

[Scott Bearden]

Without hesitation Tony. Dot will be in my prayers.

Scott


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Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC/ IBS ????

[Scott Bearden]

Anything connected to the stomach... I will say it a million times and
won't get tired. It is nothing that eating right and exercise can't solve.
Pills have side effects and are not designed to cure your problem, just
mask the symptoms. And then you need more pills to deal with the side
effects, and around and around you go. Go to the root of the problem. I
just saw another friend come completely off Type 2 diabetes medications
after exercising and watching his diet since last August. If you let the
pharmaceutical companies run your life, THEY WILL.


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Re: [VFB] RE:Golden Gate casters club

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I don't remember the water ever being green. There must be some algae
growth. Still a beautiful place to get away from the busy hustle of San
Francisco. As a kid, if I wasn't out fishing, I was there practicing my
casting and getting lessons from several legends in fly fishing. I attended
a few of Mel Krieger's casting clinics. He was an extraordinary caster and
equally extraordinary teacher.

I hope the rest of your trip goes well. I can tell from the pictures you
are still enjoying fabulous weather.

Scott


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 I made it to the Golden Gate Casters club:

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Re: [VFB] Greetings from guess where

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It looks like the weather is gorgeous. Very atypical for San Francisco. Eat
some good seafood and stay out of the Tenderloin. Oh, you probably don't
have a rod and reel with you but check out the Golden Gate casting club in
Golden Gate Park if you get the chance. A phenomenal place to practice and
learn casting and home to many legendary casters. I wish we had something
like it around DC.


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Re: [VFB] Re: test

[Scott Bearden]

Chuck are you sure your pictures were being displayed to everyone? It may
appear that way but an easy way to test is if your wife or kids have a
google account have them look at your google plus page. There is a also a
link on that page I sent you to that allows you to see how others see your
page. You will always be able to view all of your pictures and it may be
confusing but they are not shared by default. You have to go in and click
share. Send me a link to your Google plus profile and let's see if we can
get to the bottom of this. I could be wrong but I bet you are getting
worked up over nothing. I am happy to help anybody on here with technology
questions and concerns.

Regards,

Scott


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Chuck Alexander
chuck101010...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well, I guess until I figure something else out, i'll just have to come to
 the group's homepage to read any posts as even though i added my
 centurylink email addy to my Google+ account, it is NOT coming there yet.
 And to Scott Bearden, You're exactly right. I had to click it ON at some
 point in the past to share my pics. I just wish they'd go back to allowing
 ME to pick and choose what I want to use of Google. As in, ONLY the groups
 if that's what I want, and not the other stuff like You Tube, Google TV,
 and all the other Google+ programs, apps etc. Now it's all or nothing
 as far as I can tell. And yeah, if I'd had had any selfy nudies i'd still
 be running, SCREAMING down the street LOL... Course all my peeps who saw
 them would have taken off running (the OTHER WAY) as well LOL.. Chuck



 On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:21 PM UTC-5, Chuck Alexander wrote:

   test  I Resolved PART of the problems I had with Google/Google+, but
 had to do so by opening a Gmail acct. BUT,. My email acct I use EVERYWHERE,
 and still wish to use here, is my century link addy, so wish me luck that I
 receive a replay to that centurylink addy. I'm tooo computer illiterate to
 be fooling with more than one email addy LOL, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] BEWARE OF PICASSA AND GOOGLE PLUS!!!!!!

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Chuck there is a simple setting to use it to back up all of your photos
without making them public. In fact it is private by default. Hell my whole
Samsung Galaxy S4 is backed up with Google+. You just don't make it
available to anyone. Facebook offers the same for pictures and so does
several other photo apps. And they all have that setting that backs your
files up to the cloud without sharing it publicly. Trust me its a good
thing when your phone or hard drive takes a dive one day. Everything is
going to the cloud and I mean everything. There won't even be a physical
media beyond BluRay. Once BluRay sales start slumping the motion picture
studios and music recording studios will stop selling physical media
because it is cost prohibitive at that point. Even newspapers and magazines
are bracing for the day when they go all digital. It is the consumer's
responsibility to make sure they are not giving up their privacy. I know it
is frustrating to learn that your photos that you thought were private were
out there in the open, but I am sure you had the opportunity to make them
private but didn't read through things carefully. I am just glad you didn't
have any naked selfies to report. LMAO

https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1047281?hl=en




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 Chuck, may I have the instructions?  I think you do a Public Service by
 posting them somewhere.

 Thanks
 BobH

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 Ashley: Exactly. Most ppl are too trusting. But if they don't change,
 there will be NO privacy left for them at all.  There's not much as it is,
 at least in this country. Chuck

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 Hi Chuck,

 99% of people don't even read the terms and conditions before clicking OK.
 Think I may have been one of the few who actually realised all my pictures
 would be uploaded. Picassa now seems to be a part of Google plus which I
 have disabled on my phone (no auto upload) and won't allow it on my laptop.
 Basically just use the email.

 Ashley
 On 24 Mar 2014 05:06, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net
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 Folks: Just FYI. If you use Picasa, or Google plus, be aware that every
 photo on your hard drive might be being shared with the world (or at least
 anybody else on Google plus). I was looking for fly tying videos on You
 Tube tonight and a pop up saying free samples of  Tide detergent',which
 WAS a legit offer. I have been playing the free sample game: for yrs.
 But on this one, as I read the Terms of Service and of course in the tiny
 print it said something like by clicking agree you are agreeing to
 install picasa and/or Google+.

 So, I went to Google+ just to check it out, and what did I find??? only
 8.3 GIGS of my own pics. Now, none was anything I wouldn't share with the
 world, BUT, that should be MY CHOICE, not some lawyers lingo and his
 terms of service and tiny print.  And even if I inadvertently clicked I
 agree on some terms of service on something as innocent as free samples
 of Tide detergent for example, don't you think either Picasa, and/or
 Google+ could have the decency to pop open a whole screen for you to fill
 in your personal info, click what you did and did NOT want to be shared,
 like photos etc??  Any up and up company would have done so IMHO. I think
 Google has Gotten too big for their britches and my wife has had me using
 Bing as a search engine for a some time now, and it's actually a better
 search engine IMHO anyway...

 I would still use Google at times, as old habits die hard, but you can
 bet I won't use it again unless my life depended on it. How many pp, even
 if they do read the terms of service ACTUALLY understand them fully?? 1%
 MAYBE??? Come to find out that I guess Google owns Picasa, and it's just
 another way of sharing photos, like Photo bucket etc. But, at least I was
 FULLY AWARE when I created myself a Photo Bucket acct.

 Then, I had to get my wife to UNINSTALL all that junk, and she works for
 MICROSOFT as a support tech, and even she had to study it for an hour to
 figure out how to turn it off/delete it. Anyway, if you use either Picasa,
 and/or Google+ and find out your pics are  being shared with the world and
 don't want them to be, just write to me and I'll give you the step by step
 (because there is ONE step (ie I Agree) to get the program, but MANY steps,
 which must be taken in the right step by step or you'll never get rid of
 it, or at least turn off the photo sharing part of it. I was sooo mad
 when I found out I'd been tricked, if I could have reached through the
 screen and choked whoever was/is responsible 

Re: [VFB] RE: Sowbug

[Scott Bearden]

Yeah I wish I could have made it. I hope the weather holds out and you guys
get some good fishing in. Give Dot a hug for me.

Scott


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 Scott - sorry you couldn't make it this year. We had a good drive. Tony is
 a good driver. I had a great night; unfortunately, your old bed here is no
 longer available . . . 8 - }
 Bob Hendry

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Re: [VFB] Retirement.

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I still have 20 years to go to get to where Wayne is at now and to be
honest I will probably be working another 20 past that with the way
retirement looks from my vantage point. That's why I try to get out and
fish when I can.

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Re: [VFB] Vacation in the Poconos or Catskills

[Scott Bearden]

The Dette's is a Catskills institution. I try to visit every time I go up
there. I am sure there are several fly shops nearby worth visiting that are
rich with history.

Scott


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Barrett jmbarr...@msn.com wrote:

 Ups, I do go to Dette’s fly shop on the west side of the Willowemoc in
 Roscoe.

 https://www.detteflies.com/

 Also, there is a casting pond at the BVI. It does have fish but I only
 practice cast with wife to warm up her skills. Maybe, you can convince the
 girls to learn.

 Mike

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 Thanks to all for the excellent responses.  Sounds like Roscoe is the
 place!  And it shouldn't be too difficult to convince the girls that this
 IS the place!

 Mike,

 I really appreciate your detailed email describing more that just the good
 fishing.  Thank you!  Are you the mayor of roscoe?  8 ~ }

 Cheers, y'all,
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 Southern Maryland



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 -  *- Henry David Thoreau*

 On 1/3/2014 1:49 PM, Mike Barrett wrote:

 By the way, the Beaverkill Valley Inn has 1 mile of private water catch and 
 release water on the upper Beaverkill just like 2 miles north of Lew Beach, 
 NY. The 'wall pool' is like no more than 300 feet away where I have caught 22 
 inch rainbows at the head of the pool many times because the BVI is catch and 
 release. This pool is quite long. There are three great pools to fish and 
 twice as many riffles also. There is the bend pool further south, may 800 
 feet away. If you are lucky enough to know someone from the Beaverkill Trout 
 Club a couple of miles south of the BVI, they have 6 miles of private water. 
 You would like to fish within walking distance of the motel/Bed  Breakfast 
 and be in NIRVANA? Well this is it!!! it sounds like you want to make a 
 summer trip. The water will be cool enough to hold the fish even through 
 August and warm enough to wet wade. Bing Maps the Birds Eye view of the 
 address and you will get an idea of their property.

 The nice thing about the BVI, is that you must cross the Barnhart Road bridge 
 to get to their property. Their property is separated from the Beaverkill 
 Valley Road by the river.  From the BVI you can get to the East Branch of the 
 Delaware, which has many access points for wade fishing. In August it will 
 still be ice cold from water releases early in the morning, 40 degree range 
 from the bottom of the Pepacton Reservoir Dam in Downsville NY. It is like 
 natures own A/C on a 95 degree August day. They have an indoor swimming pool, 
 indoor basketball court and a self serve ice cream bar. Breakfast is part of 
 your room charge. Last year weekdays were $167/ night and Sunday is a 
 weekday. They serve lunch and dinner, if need be at an additional price. Full 
 course dinners were $50/person with soup, salad, entre and desert. Sometimes 
 with dinner, they have a cocktail hour with hors d'œuvres. It just depends on 
 how many people will be at dinner. They have a nice little bar with go
 od spirits a plenty, fine wine and many craft beers. Tipping is not 
 permitted. If they are not serving dinner, you are allowed to eat at the 
 homeowners association club bar in Lew Beach.
 There is a wonderful wrap around porch for sitting and reading. There are 
 many trails for hiking but it is black bear country so please bring bear mace 
 and/or fog horns. Just google either and make your choice. I alays carry bear 
 mace, a small horn and one 5 inch bowie knife as a last resort.��

 From the BVI, you can go fish the covered bridge on the upper Beaverkill NY 
 state park area a few miles away. There is a deep pool there. You can go 
 north on route 206 out of Roscoe and before you cross the Beaverkil River 
 Bridge, there is a torn off on your left to the Beaverkill River. Back down 
 206 towards Roscoe, there is another acces point. And of Course there is the 
 famous Junction Pool (the Beaverkill and Willowemoc meet to form the lower 
 Beaverkill.

 There is a cute little creek with two turn offs for fishing, Mongaup Creek. 
 It is up Mongaup Road which is off of DeBruce Road out of Livinston Manor. 
 Mongaup is a tributory to the Upper Willowemoc, up stream from Livingston 
 Manor. The turnoff to the pool, which I always fish, is the one with the v 
 formed plank dam, the second one after driving up on Mongaup Road. Do not 
 step out onto the dam. It is slick as goat shit. Plus I am not sure that it 
 would support any weight because of its age. A vist to the hatchery on 
 Mongaup creek is worthwhile. It is fed by 1,500 gallons daily of spring 
 water, which just emptys into the lower Mongaup Creek where the plank dam is, 
 insuring water 

Re: [VFB] Vacation in the Poconos or Catskills

[Scott Bearden]

I vote for Roscoe, NY as well. Lots of places to stay where you can walk
right out to a trout stream. Some places are mere motels and rather spartan
and others are nicer. The Roscoe Motel has the Beaverkill right out behind
your room within 50 ft, but its a motel and I don't know how well that will
go over with the women if they are looking for something a little nicer to
vacation in. The Catskills is full of arts and crafts stuff, lots of
antique shops, etc. There are boundless bed and breakfast places I would
look into. There are lots of places and things to do within 1 hour's drive
of Roscoe and the drives are very scenic. Plus as Tony mentioned, the
Catskills Fly Fishing Center and Museum is just down the road in Livingston
Manor which the girls may not be interested in, but you and your son would
be.

Regards,

Scott


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The Catskill FF Museum is about 7 miles from there in Livingston Manor.
 Tony


   On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:10 PM, Mike Barrett jmbarr...@msn.com
 wrote:
  There is only one place, The Beaverkill Valley Inn. Google their web
 site. I fish there all the time.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 2, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Bob Hendry bhen...@cheerful.com wrote:

  Greetings, and Happy New Year to all!

 I am soliciting suggestions from any of you familiar with fishing in NE PA
 and W NY.  Instead of vacationing again at the beach in Wildwood, I'd like
 to take the family up a bit further north in the mountains (Poconos or
 Catskills) where fly fishing opportunities abound, AND where the GIRLS, who
 are NOT fishergirls, can find alternative entertainment.  I'm a little
 familiar with Hawley, PA (Lake Wallenpaupack - used to fish there as a
 child).  That was more than 50 years ago . . .

 They would like to visit museums, historic sites  points of interest,
 local craft fairs, etc. The boy and I would like to fish within walking
 distance of the motel/Bed  Breakfast.

 In other words, a NIRVANA.  8 ~ }  Any and all suggestions are very
 welcome.

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Re: [VFB] FW: [fs-ff] Bay Weekly Article on Free State Fly Fishers by Dennis Doyle

[Scott Bearden]

It looks like you got a new vise too. Congrats on being the picture for the
article.

Scott


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges
wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi All;

 Im famous,  got my photo in this article LOL!

 Wayneb



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 Bay Weekly Article on Free State Fly Fishers by Dennis Doyle

 http://bayweekly.com/articles/regulars/sporting-life-by-dennis-doyle

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Re: [VFB] Unithread

[Scott Bearden]

Chuck,

Another thing to keep in mind if you are watching what a spool costs is
that some spools have less yards than you think. Personally I like the
Veevus thread and Hook and Hackle's Euro thread, but whatever you do just
be sure that the price accurately reflects the volume of thread you think
you are buying. I have noticed at some fly fishing and tying shows that
vendors will sell spools with 100yrds instead of 200 and suddenly you are
sucked in by a great price. If you are not married to a particular brand
then by all means bargain shop. I am fussy about thread though. Gudebrod
spoiled me thanks to Tony.

Scott


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Chuck Alexander 
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   Folks: I was just “window shopping at Jann’s Netcraft and noticed that
 their 6/0 prewaxed thread, in 200 yard spools is only 1.39 per spool, or
 $1.23 per spool if you order 12 or more spools. Then, I noticed that
 Unithread is now up to $3.59 per spool, or $3.29 per spool if you order
 more than 12 spools. Am I missing something that is so great about
 Unithread??

 I have used that Netcraft’s $1.39 a spool and loved it, but I normally use
 Danville’s Prewaxed Fly master at $1.65 per spool at J. R. Stockard, and
 like I said, it ties forme just as good as any other brand I have ever
 tried. Meanwhile, Unithread is only $2.65, which is nearly a dollar a spool
 cheaper than Netcraft. And everytime I have ever tried to tie with
 Unithread it unravels and gets stuck on the hook barb etc. I’m NOT putting
 down Unithread, because I know of ppl who swear by it. But I was just
 wondering if I’m missing something that makes it $1.00-1.50 per spool
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Re: [VFB] My stomach/intestinal pains FINALLY have a reason for being there and with an EASY TO FIX remedy I have been praying for...

[Scott Bearden]

Glad to hear they found the problem. When you get off the antibiotics, look
into probiotics. Antibiotics are way over prescribed and as a society if we
don't change that soon we are probably in for some very bad ailments. They
have a drug resistant Tuberculosis that is spreading here in the U.S. Then
there is Mersa, and a long list of dangerous bacteria that have become drug
resistant. In your case a prescription for antibiotics is necessary, but
9/10 cases doctors need to let nature take its course. We never would have
made it past cavemen if we really needed antibiotics. Anyhow one of the
downsides on a personal level is it wipes out all of the bacteria in your
gut, good and bad and now you can't digest food properly and absorb
nutrients the way you are supposed to. This affects you from the obvious
(diarrhea, constipation, bloating, gas, cramps, acid reflux) to the not so
obvious (malnutrition, kidney disease, mental disorders, hair, teeth,
nails, skin). If you have stomach issues chances are you already have an
imbalance in your gut of good bacteria. Some doctors are even linking it to
obesity because people can't digest food properly. I won't recommend any
one brand over another for the simple fact that I try a different brand
each time so that I am exposed to different bacteria all the time. Although
the one that had the most notable impact was probably Phillips Colon
Health. Keep in mind that yogurt while healthy in general is also
pasteurized. Don't buy into the hype with the live and active cultures.
Of course you can always make your own and if you do I would suggest making
your own sauer kraut or kimchi as well since they are some of nature's best
probiotics. Same problem exists if you buy it in the grocery store being
pasteurized.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Dan kc5...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Glad you found out what it is and glad to see it is easy to get rid of!

 Thank you God!

 Salty Dan
 If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving!

 
 On Mon, 12/9/13, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

  Subject: [VFB] My stomach/intestinal pains FINALLY have a reason for
 being there and with an EASY TO FIX remedy I have been praying for...
  To: Cheaper Living cheaperliv...@yahoogroups.com, fly fishing for
 panfish flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com,
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  Date: Monday, December 9, 2013, 5:25 PM





  My stomach problems..Folks. FINALLY found the problem
  causing my
  stomach/intestinal pains. It’s the H pylori (sp) bacteria
  that they now know is
  a main cause for things like ulcers (which I do NOT have)
  and Gastritis (which I
  DO have. So, my wish and prayers, and those from my family
  and friends has come
  true. The Colonoscopy, and upper endoscocy came back good,
  but they DID find the
  problem with an “easy to fix” remedy. I am s
  relieved. y doc’s office called
  mye in 2 different antibiotics, and a different type anti
  acid (Prisolec) than
  the  new med Decalant which I turned out to have a mild
  reaction to and
  itched constantly “all over more than anywhere else. So,
  Thanks a million again
  to my family and friends for the thoughts and prayers in
  this manner. Now,
  hopefully I’ll feel up to getting my boat all cleaned out
  and ready for the
  fishing season, which will start here in just a cpl-three
  months or so. Having
  your intestines/stomach hurt 24/7 just makes you not feel
  like doing much of
  anything, and it’s been a long hard ride, but I can now
  see the “light at the
  end of the tunnel. Thanks again. All I can say is thank God
  for this as I’ve had
  sooo many friends etc that have had and/or died from
  colo/rectal cancer in the
  past, I don’t mind telling you I was scared to death deep
  down inside.
  Chuck






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Re: [VFB] Black squirrel tail needed??

[Scott Bearden]

FYI Hook and Hackle is offering free shipping today. I doubt they have any
black squirrel though. Black squirrels are pretty rare in the gene pool.
You are better off finding a population of them and bring your pellet
rifle. That or dye the fur.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Gary Webb glwranger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chuck,

 A couple of years ago, I could have supplied you with some black squirrel
 tails.  When we first moved into this house the squirrels in our backyard
 were evenly split between the black variant and the normal gray.  But I
 haven't seen a black one for over a year. If one shows up  I'll get my air
 rifle and knock one off the bird feeder  We don't live in the city, but
 we're too close to get away with shooting a regular firearm.

 Gary


 On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, the smiths aflyt...@comcast.net wrote:

  I have some grey squreel tails I shot off my bird feeders last year.
 How many do you need?
 Gary

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 *Sent:* Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:25 PM
 *Subject:* [VFB] Black squirrel tail needed??

  Anybody here have a squirrel tailk (or two) You’d sell me?? It’s the
 only thing I need, and with the price of shipping these days that most
 online places get, I’d end up paying them $3.95 plus $6.95 to $8.95 SH in
 many cases for a tail that weighs about three ounces, If that. Anybody has
 one or two, I’ll Pay Pal you the moo lah or however you wish to do it. OR,
 if I have a material you need, we could do a “swap”. Thanks, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Peggy Brenner

[Scott Bearden]

This is very sad news! My Condolences to both of them.

Scott


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Re: [VFB] Sad news

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Dean was a wonderful man who put on a brave face for a long time. I didn't
know him well, but I got to fish with Tony and him on Crooked Creek once. A
very charming and warm man who will certainly be missed.

Scott


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 For those of us who have tied at the Sowbug the past few years, we lost a
 great friend this evening.

 Tony Spezio called me a bit ago to ask me to let everyone know that Dean
 Darling passed away.  He had been fighting
 cancer for several years.   Dean was the person who registered all tyers
 at the Sowbug until about two or three years
 ago when it became more than he could handle.

 Dean was one of the nicest gentlemen one could ever ask to meet and was
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Re: [VFB] hacked

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My advice is to never ever ever click on those links unless A) there is
tangible context behind sending the link (I never send emails anymore
saying something short like check this out! and B) read the text in the
URL. If if doesn't go to a .com or .org or it looks like a bunch of
jibberish, it is best not to click on it and simply ask the sender what the
link is about. It may be a legitimate website after all, but better safe
than sorry.

Once you click on it, you continue the circle of life as it pillages your
email account for contacts.

Scott


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Re: [VFB] Storms

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I survived. The storm pretty much hit north and south of my house by
several miles so I got lucky. Probably high water in the streams along with
a lot of down trees. Might make for some interesting new pools or at least
obstacles.


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 Everyone make it through the recent storm that swept across country ok?

 To tie this to fishing, how do you think a storm effects fishing after it
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Re: [VFB] Storms

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Gravel stone.
On Jun 14, 2013 4:50 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Interesting, is crooked creek an earthen bottomed water body or
 cravel/stone based?

 Wayne

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   It blows out Crooked Creek every time. The creek totally changes each
 tome. Pools will fill in and new pools made.
 Tony

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Re: [VFB] Thanks to all

[Scott Bearden]

Chuck,

I am glad to hear she is doing better. You are a good husband. Hang in
there and stay strong.

Regards,

Scott


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I’d like to thank everybody who had my wife in their thoughts
 and prayers recently when she had those blood clots in her lungs. I’m happy
 to report that she is MUCH better and even started back to work for the
 first time yesterday afternoon from 4pm till midnight. And she felt great
 after working that long of a shift as well. She’s a “work from home”
 support tech  for Microsoft, and deals with billing problems for their
 X-Box system, and as per her docs orders, I modified her desk/computer so
 that she can sit down fo ra cpl hours, then stand up for a cpl hours, cause
 that sitting for 8-10 hours straight is probably the main factor in
 creating the blood clots.  She is scheduled to work tomorrow from 1:30pm
 till midnight, but that’s a little long right now when she’s still healing,
 so they said she could “jump off” the phones and take an extended 2-3 hour
 lunch break so she can get up and move around like she’s supposed to do.
 She still has a pretty bad cough, but her doc says that it may be with her
 for up to six MONTHS. She has to take six breathing treatments per day, and
 that helps a LOT. 4 of them are Albuterol, and 2 are some type of steriod
 to shrink the swollen bhronchial tubes. Anyway, thanks again, and please
 keep her in your thoughts and prayers till she is 100% back in good health.
 Thanks a million, Chuck (and Billie) Alexander


 Also, her docs and nurses have ALL been Just GREAT. They are the most
 caring, thoughtful, thorough, and skilled docs and nurses she has ever had.
 She has three doctors and they ALL communicate very well with each other,
 and that makes all the difference in the wolrd because the right hand knows
 exactly what the left hand is doing, and that don’t happen as much as it
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Re: [VFB] RE: warmwater flies/ inchworm

[Scott Bearden]

Since I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 I can tell you it takes great pictures.
There is a macro setting that is pretty easy to find in the camera
application menu. Takes very decent macros too.

My trees look the same right now. But its the cicadas I am worried about. I
just planted a peach tree last year and all of the branches are very thin.
Plus I am sure they will wipe out my grape vine since it is fairly young
too.

Scott


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges
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 The current inchworm infestation is very interesting, I've never seen this
 many before. They start out 1/2 inch long or less and fairly thin. They
 then appear to get longer about an inch, then they thicken and finally
 darken. I don't think they get much longer than two inches.

 The attached photo is from my backyard. Tent caterpillars are much bigger,
 they are fairly numerous right now, not as many as proceeding years. I
 wonder if it has something to do with the increase in inchworm.

 DonO: if you're interested in a picture of a tent caterpillar let me know.
 I still need to practice taking pictures with my smart phone!

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Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies

[Scott Bearden]

Bingo!


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 Don:

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 On 5/14/13 4:26 PM, Don Ordes wrote:

 For you guys who live in the south and in other warm-water areas.
 How well do caterpillar flies work?  Are the soft worm-like ones the
 best, or the fuzzy ones?
 I don't see too many caterpillars for sale in shops.

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Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies

[Scott Bearden]

Yes. Some are no longer than my thumb nail. Tiny things. Others are
slightly wider and twice as long. All are the same color, which I suppose
comes from the chlorophyll found in the tender fresh leaves . Charlie Meck
likes to tie in three different lengths to cover them all I guess. I can
attest to the fact that they work great.

Scott


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

   Is this what it imitates?

 [image: spring-creek-4-27-12-012]

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  Bingo!


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 On 5/14/13 4:26 PM, Don Ordes wrote:

 For you guys who live in the south and in other warm-water areas.
 How well do caterpillar flies work?  Are the soft worm-like ones the
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 I don't see too many caterpillars for sale in shops.

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Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies- Pete

[Scott Bearden]

Don,

Out here in the mid-Atlantic states this fly is very much a match the hatch
kind of thing. It is the earliest terrestrial to come out each year. I have
my best luck using this fly unweighted and greased with floatant on a fine
tippet. They tend to lower themselves right into the water and ride the
film to their death. But I am sure it will pass as a caddis larvae as well
once submerged.

Scott


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 snip

 Only problem is that here in WY I’ve never had much luck with caterpillar
 patterns.  Maybe the greenie will work. /snip


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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

Wapsi also makes this. It comes in a package that resembles a match book.
But I have only received them as samples. I have never seen them in a fly
shop.

I have never seen the veniards lead either. It may be a European/Canadian
thing. I am fortunate that I don't have to do mail order for most of my
supplies and I suspect I would have to find somewhere that will mail it to
me. But like I said, there are other sources out there. Sometimes just
marketing the same thing for fly fishing adds a few dollars in mark up over
essentially the same product.

Scott


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Alan,
 Years ago I used to buy lead strips to use for weight on the leader. They
 came in packages of about twelve strips. I used to get them at a fly shop.
 They were about 1/32 thick, 1/8 wide and about 3 long. No sticky back on
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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

The great thing about lead is it is so soft. You could hammer it out
thinner I suppose with little effort. Squeeze it between bench vise jaws or
something similar. I wouldn't want to get into smelting my own lead to pour
in a mould, but it would be fairly simple to make one to your specs.

Scott


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

 Yes they are called twist-on's.

 I used to have a pkg of them but don't know what I did with them.

 We have them at Bas Pro, so I may pick up a pkg today.

 The only problem is that they are so thick.

 If tying a 14 or 16 you want it a lot thinner then the twist-on's.



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 On May 6, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Alan,
 Years ago I used to buy lead strips to use for weight on the leader. They
 came in packages of about twelve strips. I used to get them at a fly shop.
 They were about 1/32 thick, 1/8 wide and about 3 long. No sticky back on
 them. The shops might still sell them. I don't use weight on my line so I
 never check.
 Tony

 --- On *Mon, 5/6/13, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net* wrote:


 From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Flat lead
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, May 6, 2013, 7:49 AM

  Great info . Tnx . I will try them.


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 On May 6, 2013, at 3:46 AM, gordon lyall 
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 wrote:

   Veniards Adhesive Lead Foil
 Most fly shops sell it.

   *From:* Scott Bearden 
 scott.bear...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.bear...@gmail.com
 
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 *Sent:* Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:58:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Flat lead

  It provides weight for balance to help fine tune golf clubs.
 On May 5, 2013 8:55 PM, 
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 wrote:

   Scott:

 What do golfers use the flat lead for?


 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma



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  Most golf pro shops will sell sheets of flat, sticky backed lead. A good
 sporting goods store that carries golf stuff might carry it. I have also
 seen it in the hardware store to balance the blades on ceiling fans, but it
 cost 10 times as much  for just a tiny patch of the stuff.

 Scott


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 I was watching a video for tying the Tellico and it showed adding weight
 to make it sink real fast. It was not the conventional lead wire, but it
 was flat.
 Does anyone know where to get this?


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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

Most golf pro shops will sell sheets of flat, sticky backed lead. A good
sporting goods store that carries golf stuff might carry it. I have also
seen it in the hardware store to balance the blades on ceiling fans, but it
cost 10 times as much  for just a tiny patch of the stuff.

Scott


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 I was watching a video for tying the Tellico and it showed adding weight
 to make it sink real fast. It was not the conventional lead wire, but it
 was flat.
 Does anyone know where to get this?


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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

It provides weight for balance to help fine tune golf clubs.
On May 5, 2013 8:55 PM, phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

   Scott:

 What do golfers use the flat lead for?


 Thank You,
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  Most golf pro shops will sell sheets of flat, sticky backed lead. A good
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 seen it in the hardware store to balance the blades on ceiling fans, but it
 cost 10 times as much  for just a tiny patch of the stuff.

 Scott


 On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

 I was watching a video for tying the Tellico and it showed adding weight
 to make it sink real fast. It was not the conventional lead wire, but it
 was flat.
 Does anyone know where to get this?


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Re: [VFB] JM swap update

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These are due like now, right? I might need a couple more days before I can
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Re: [VFB] Substitute for Gudebrod G Thread?

[Scott Bearden]

Just make sure that embroidery thread isn't cotton. You will probably have
to use something like Danville, Uni, or Wapsi (UTC) 210 denier since
Gudebrod G was between 270 and 303 denier. Wapsi also makes a 280 denier,
and just so happens to be made from polyester, the same as Gudebrod. The
others are nylon. Does it make a difference? Buy one of each and decide for
yourself. My two favorites for Gudebrod alternatives are Hook and Hackle's
Euro threads and the new Veevus thread. Both are made of polyester, but
they also come in very fine sizes only.

Gudebrod was the supplier for Orvis' thread, but since they went out of
business there is no telling who makes their thread now. Since Al mentioned
Orvis I checked their website and they do carry their thread in a size G.
For $2 it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

Scott


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges
wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Embroidery thread, mamy use it for woven bodies. It's typically six
 strand, use as many strands as you need to obtain thickness desired. I
 imagine a single strand would be pretty close in thickness to Gudebrod G
 thread.

 Wayneb

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   Hi Tony,

 I'd like to try to learn to weave a Mayfly body (extended)  Your CD is
 great for this, but I can't find the Gudebrod thread that yoou use.  Are
 you (or anyone else) aware of a suitable substitued?  Colors?

 I watched several YouTube videos that used everything from antron yarn to
 embrodery thread.  My goal is to mimic the tight, small body you made; I'm
 afraid that antron might be too heavy?  Thoughts?

 Thanks!
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Re: [VFB] Substitute for Gudebrod G Thread?

[Scott Bearden]

Gudebrod was polyester, which is why they were drastically different than
Uni and Danville, which are nylon. The stuff my wife has in her embroidery
basket is all cotton. Maybe that is just what she prefers. I know that is
just anecdotal, but it is worth reading the labels before you buy just to
be sure.

The reason why I liked Gudebrod so much is that it was very thin and very
strong, it was able to untwist and lay down flat without fraying and I was
able to get thinner build up on the head of a fly.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Bob Hendry bhen...@cheerful.com wrote:

 **

 Gudebrod was all silk, wasn't it?  Might there be an advantage to using
 Pearsall's?

 Embroidery thread is generally polyester - I think.  Maybe better for a
 dry fly?

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 Southern Maryland

 On 4/10/2013 13:37, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:

   Embroidery thread, mamy use it for woven bodies. It's typically six
 strand, use as many strands as you need to obtain thickness desired. I
 imagine a single strand would be pretty close in thickness to Gudebrod G
 thread.

 Wayneb

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   Hi Tony,

 I'd like to try to learn to weave a Mayfly body (extended)  Your CD is
 great for this, but I can't find the Gudebrod thread that yoou use.  Are
 you (or anyone else) aware of a suitable substitued?  Colors?

 I watched several YouTube videos that used everything from antron yarn to
 embrodery thread.  My goal is to mimic the tight, small body you made; I'm
 afraid that antron might be too heavy?  Thoughts?

 Thanks!
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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

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As much as a novelty as these are, I wonder how many people have caught
fish on them? Surely there is a club, just like the 20/20 club.

Scott

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Re: [VFB] test Jimmy D Swap

[Scott Bearden]

I thought we took the swap offline?

Scott


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 Testing.  Checking on the Jimmy D Swap. If you're not in the swap,
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Re: [VFB] Cicada pattern

[Scott Bearden]

The reason Wayne is probably asking is because the Mid Atlantic Region is
in for an EPIC cicada year that is supposed to be even bigger than the
brood that hatched back in 2004. When the cicadas hatch, they are the only
meal in town for about 6 weeks regardless of whatever else is hatching at
the time. For the trout and smallmouth in our neck of the woods it is kind
of like why go for the usual salad bar when it is all you can eat T-Bone
night? For those that have never seen one of the big cicada hatches, when
I say epic, I mean epic on biblical proportions. I know people who have
them confused with locusts. Every summer cicadas hatch, but there are some
broods that stay under ground for 13-17 years and when they emerge look
out. They will cover your car. Their carcasses will litter every inch of
the sidewalk so when you walk every step is crunchy.

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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

[Scott Bearden]

I don't believe you have ever shown them to me. I would love to see them in
person. You know I love tying and fishing small flies. I have only seen
pictures of them on the internet and it is usually on or next to a dime for
comparison. I think the smallest Mustads I own are 28. They were not
terribly expensive.

Scott


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Scott,
 They have not been in production for many years. At the time I bought
 these from Canada it was the last 25 she had. I think I paid about five
 dollars plus postage. To my it was a real good buy.
 Did I ever show them to you when you were here. If not, I will show you
 what I have left when you come up in October.
 Tony

 --- On *Wed, 4/3/13, Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 10:42 PM

  What was the going price when they were still in full production?

 Scott


 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Anthony Spezio 
 bambot...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   I had 25 of them I bought from a place in Canada many years ago. I tied
 seven flies on them and gave some away. I still have a couple. one of my
 flies along with some from other list members can be seen on Hans;s
 web page om Global flyfishing I think it is. I think Don's Royal Coachman
 is on that page too if I am not mistaken.
  Tony


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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

[Scott Bearden]

You can count me in too. I still have a bunch of 28's I can practice on.
The Tiemco 30 is about the same size as the Mustad 26.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would give it a shot again.  I may have to practice on the Tiemco 30's
 before I do the Mustad.


 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.comwrote:

 We both need to use SPELL CHECK. LOL
 Tony

 --- On *Thu, 4/4/13, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net* wrote:


 From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net

 Subject: Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013, 2:17 PM


  Ar that time I knew I couldn't do a size 32. Since then, I've tied a
 couple of 28's.  If I had more than one hook, I might tackle a 32, but I'd
 probably have to dose myself with a full bottle of tranquilizers first to
 steady my hands.

 af



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 bambot...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

It was an honor to have me on thet page. I think I tied a better fly
 on the sz 32 later on.
 Tony

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 From: 
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 phxflyt...@cox.nethttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phxflyt...@cox.net
 
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32
 To: 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013, 11:44 AM

   Wow!  what a page.
 A “who’s who” of tying for sure..

 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma



  *From:* Hans 
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 *Sent:* Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:21 AM
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

Tony,

 They are an unofficial part of Flytier's Page - one of these
 days/months/years I will summon up the courage to handle and photograph
 them again - go easy on the image quality, they stem from the analog film
 days.

 That said - _any_ fly tied on this small hook is a credit to the tier.

 http://www.danica.com/flytier/sfp/sfp.htm

 Cheers,
 Hans W


 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Anthony Spezio 
 bambot...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Hans, Can you post the page those flies are on. I lost that
 information in a computer glitch some years ago.
 Tony





  You have a Friend in Low Places 
 Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands
 http://www.danica.com/flytier
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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

[Scott Bearden]

What was the going price when they were still in full production?

Scott


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 I had 25 of them I bought from a place in Canada many years ago. I tied
 seven flies on them and gave some away. I still have a couple. one of my
 flies along with some from other list members can be seen on Hans;s
 web page om Global flyfishing I think it is. I think Don's Royal Coachman
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  Tony


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Re: [VFB] test

[Scott Bearden]

Well when we aren't picking on Don O things get a little slow around here.


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 On 3/26/13 9:24 AM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote:

 Naw, just didn't get any email since 12 a.m.


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Re: [VFB] Update on Tony?

[Scott Bearden]

I have not heard anything yet. I will give them a call tonight. I need to
tie up some flies I promised to Tony, so maybe I will do that tonight while
I am thinking about it.

Regards,

Scott


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Re: [VFB] Re: Peggys swarm has arrived!

[Scott Bearden]

Memo received. Lock and load. Commence firing at will. We hunting wabbits?


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 On 3/25/13 1:27 PM, Don Ordes wrote:

 Mr Physsh,

 What's this???  Beat up on 'ol DonO week?



 Absolutely, Don.

 A memorandum went out, but it appears that only Nev  I responded to it.

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Re: [VFB] Ji8mmy Moore Swap closed

[Scott Bearden]

I think we didn't go over 20. Denny is in there as the last person and
Mike's name was listed twice. So that makes for 19 tyers.

Scott


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, rene.zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.dewrote:

 I don't like the idea that Bob H drops out if we get more than 20 folks on
 the swap. I do the extra for him. Pls send pattern.  Maybe I have to change
 it a bit due to materials.  Rene


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 Where is
 Denny Conrad..I do not see him on this list? Joyce

 Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Good job, Rick.  JIMMY D. You taking the swap off list just yet?
 
 Rick Zieger wrote:
 
 
  Here is the list,  got a few emails that wanted the number at 20.
  Rick Zieger
  28433 N State
  Lamoni,Ia  50140
 
  Jimmy Moore Swap
  1. Jimmy Moore
  2. Rene Zillman
  3. Rick Zieger
  4. Mike Bliss
  5. Don Ordes
  6. Alan Di Somma
  7. Tony Spezio
  8. Scott Bearden
  9. John Sanders
  10. Allan Fish
  11. Neville Gosling
  12. Gary Webb
  13. Joyce Westphal
  14. Bob Haering
  15. Bob Hendry
  16. Keith Passant
  17. Mike Bliss
  18. Wayne Blake-Hedges
  19. Joe Fusco
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  Good job, Rick.  JIMMY D. You taking the swap off list just yet?

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 Here is the list,  got a few emails that wanted the number at 20.
 Rick Zieger
 28433 N State
 Lamoni,Ia  50140

  Jimmy Moore Swap
 1. Jimmy Moore
 2. Rene Zillman
 3. Rick Zieger
 4. Mike Bliss
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 8. Scott Bearden
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Re: [VFB] Ji8mmy Moore Swap closed

[Scott Bearden]

What Neville said. That still keeps us at 20.

Scott


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think we didn't go over 20. Denny is in there as the last person and
 Mike's name was listed twice. So that makes for 19 tyers.

 Scott


 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, rene.zillmann 
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 I don't like the idea that Bob H drops out if we get more than 20 folks
 on the swap. I do the extra for him. Pls send pattern.  Maybe I have to
 change it a bit due to materials.  Rene


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 Where is
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 Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Good job, Rick.  JIMMY D. You taking the swap off list just yet?
 
 Rick Zieger wrote:
 
 
  Here is the list,  got a few emails that wanted the number at 20.
  Rick Zieger
  28433 N State
  Lamoni,Ia  50140
 
  Jimmy Moore Swap
  1. Jimmy Moore
  2. Rene Zillman
  3. Rick Zieger
  4. Mike Bliss
  5. Don Ordes
  6. Alan Di Somma
  7. Tony Spezio
  8. Scott Bearden
  9. John Sanders
  10. Allan Fish
  11. Neville Gosling
  12. Gary Webb
  13. Joyce Westphal
  14. Bob Haering
  15. Bob Hendry
  16. Keith Passant
  17. Mike Bliss
  18. Wayne Blake-Hedges
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  20. Dennis Conrad
 
 
 
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  Good job, Rick.  JIMMY D. You taking the swap off list just yet?

 Rick Zieger wrote:


 Here is the list,  got a few emails that wanted the number at 20.
 Rick Zieger
 28433 N State
 Lamoni,Ia  50140

  Jimmy Moore Swap
 1. Jimmy Moore
 2. Rene Zillman
 3. Rick Zieger
 4. Mike Bliss
 5. Don Ordes
 6. Alan Di Somma
 7. Tony Spezio
 8. Scott Bearden
 9. John Sanders
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy Moore swap

[Scott Bearden]

Put me down. What to tie? What to tie...

Scott


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 Size 10 or larger hook.  pattern  whatever you decide.
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Re: [VFB] RE: One week till SowBug!

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We are looking forward to seeing you too, Tony. Twice a year for me ain't
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Scott


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 The room for you and Scott is ready. Looking fwd to having you guys here.
 Tony

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I'm looking toward to SowBug!
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Re: [VFB] RE: One week till SowBug!

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I can't wait either. Mountain Home or bust!

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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

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Sorry to hear about that. I was looking forward to seeing you. Make a
speedy recovery and if we don't see you this year, you will be missed!

Scott


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 there but things have gotten a little crazy, health wise, and I just can't
 see me making the trip.  I'll be there, if I can make it - BUT - it  is
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

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If you talk to him again before I do, let him know he is in my thoughts and
prayers. I wish I were out there now so I could help out.

Scott


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 I got a call from Tony.  His phone was about dead and he wanted me to let
 folks know that he's back in the hospital with another TIA and bad inner
 ear infection.

 He said he won't be able to get his charger before tomorrow, so calls
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug swap update.

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Boy what a motley crew we are!


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Re: [VFB] Sage Fly Rods

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Chuck,

Several things to consider here. One is that part of the cost is the labor,
another is RD, materials, warranty, and total cost of operations.
Obviously if one is made offshore it is likely being made for pennies on
the dollar. If the employee in China is being paid $0.70 an hour to make an
iPhone 5, then consider that shaping cork handles or wrapping guides
probably pays $0.05 an hour. Some companies have lower end models made
overseas and save the better stuff to be made in the US, Canada, or in
Hardy's case the UK. Usually quality control isn't an issue in these cases,
but you are getting something that the materials cost less as well. Maybe
carbon fiber that was cutting edge 20 years ago that is now cheap to
produce, vs thinner and stronger carbon fiber that was just developed
within the last couple of years. Does it make a difference? Cast them and
judge for yourself. Even blindfold yourself and do a blind casting
comparison to remove any bias.

Since this great recession I have saved my dollars to buy American. Nothing
racist, but rather I believe that we are destroying ourselves and weakening
our dollar every time we purchase something overseas. If I were Chinese, I
would patriotically buy Chinese made goods, or if I were German, I would
buy German made goods. You can't really do this 100%, but when I can, I
make it a point to buy American. We were the greatest manufacturer in the
world from about the 1880s to the 1980s. Our money is leaving this country
for imports faster than we can bring money in from our own exports. If we
don't reverse that trend soon... American manufacturers like Sage and Abel
have made a point to not offshore, not cut corners for the sake of chasing
the bottom of the market. I recently replaced my aged and leaking Cabelas
waders for a pair Sims G4s for this very reason. And I can tell you without
a doubt that pinching my pennies for it was worth it to me. They are
without doubt the best made pair of waders I have ever used, seen, touched,
etc.

All else considered, Sage stands by their products. Most companies do, but
in Sage's case I can speak from experience of a close friend of mine whose
rod broke (from a likely hook ding) and not only did they replace it
without question, but when the replacement was lost in the mail they
expedited another replacement to him. They shipped it overnight in fact.
You pay for that kind of service. A lot of offshore budget line products
come with a very limited warranty. That warranty factors into the total
cost of the product and the manufacturer has to leave enough profit in
there to stand by their product. Not that every single rod is going to need
replacing, but they do need to factor that into the cost.

Now if you really want something (anything really) high quality, even
luxury goods, and it is out of your price range then you might want to try
the second hand market. You may not get the latest and greatest, but you
are still buying a piece of that dream. And I know you are frugal, so this
is a more practical approach for the budget conscious.

Regards,

Scott


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I just downloaded and started watching a video called “Sage Fly
 Rods: Made in America” and it takes you on a tour of their factory, which
 is on an Island just off Seattle Washington, and tells about how great the
 fly rods are etc. Are their flyrods REALLY “THAT GOOD”?? Are they REALLY
 worth the prices they charge??  I have never casted one, but I have always
 told ppl that I think I’d put my $100 St Croix “Premier” against any rod on
 the market. And the Bamboo rod Tony built for me puts that St. Croix to
 shame. But that is sorta comparing apples to oranges to me, the bamboo vs.
 the Graphite rod, cause they are just totally different in their action
 etc. But anyway, the cheapest Sage I have seen, I believe is about  $300
 And that is for their “entry level” rods. Are they REALLY worth the money
 or is it like a lot of things and you are paying for that “name brand”??
 Thanks, Chuck


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Re: [VFB] Sowbug swap

[Scott Bearden]

Yeah, if we are going to do this then time is a tickin'


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.com wrote:

 1.  Rick Zieger
 2. Allan Fish
 3. Scott Bearden

 is there anymore interest.

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Re: [VFB] SOW BUG

[Scott Bearden]

Yep. I will be there.

Scott


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, J Mck jmck1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How many FB members are going to the 16th annual Sow Bug?


 Jerry McKaughan
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Re: [VFB] Flymph and Streamer Swap update 1/28/13

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Do you still need streamers? Since I owe you postage, that may be a good
way to redeem myself!

Regards,

Scott


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.netwrote:


 I'll keep us up to date on arrivals each week, so far the postal service
 has been good for us.

 Address is:

 266 N River Rd
 Milford, NH 03055


 So it's 13 flymphs and 11 streamers.


  Thirteen  tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of
 the flymph a spider type would be a great sub.
 
  1 Peggy B- Light Cahill ARRIVED
  2Neville Gosling-Hotspot Flymph - ARRIVED
  3Michael Bliss-Hares ear flymph-ARRIVED
  4Joe Fusco-Leviathin-ARRIVED
  5Scott Bearden -ARRIVED
  6Joyce Westfall-Iron Blue Dun-ARRIVED
  7Allan Fish-PMD flymph-ARRIVED First
  8Rene Zillman -Black  Orange Flymph - ARRIVED
  9Jim Hodson-Little Green Caddis - ARRIVED
  10Jerry McKaughan-Pheasant tail-ARRIVED
  11Keith Passant-ARRIVED
  12Ashley Strutt-Partridge morning dun-ARRIVED
  13Bob Hendry Mayfly Flymph-ARRIVED
 
  Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for  wings, these are
 smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold
 trout. Due February 1, 2013
 
  1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon-ARRIVED
  2Neville Gosling-Nev's Aura-ARRIVED
  3Michael Bliss
  4Rene Zillman -Black and White Ora Smith - ARRIVED
  5Jerry McKaughan-CRO Woodduck Streamer-ARRIVED
  6Ashley Strutt-Caleste-ARRIVED
  7Keith Passant
  8Robert Morger
  9Dan Harrington
  10 Joyce Westfall-ARRIVED FIRST
 11. Joe Fusco
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

[Scott Bearden]

I will be tying at the show. I will participate in a swap. I think we
normally exchange a few flies any how. I will just have them tied up in
advance this time.

Scott


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 How many folks are going to show up?
 Any interest in a fly swap for those coming?

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Re: [VFB] Fly how are you

[Scott Bearden]

Not only is it spam, it is phishing. If you click on that link it could do
any number of things starting with raiding every email address in your
email client. I have friends who have had their whole hard drives wiped
after clicking on what appears to be a innocent link sent from a friend.

Scott

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This is Spam.
 Tony


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Re: [VFB] Gudebrod thread

[Scott Bearden]

Tony turned me on to Gudebrod, but it was right at the end of their fly
tying thread days. I went on an exhaustive search for a suitable
replacement and I found that Hook and Hackle's Euro Thread is a very close
match. Both threads are polyester and the 12/0 Euro thread is perfect for
the midges that I like to tie. The diameter is much finer than other
midge threads. I will have to try some of this Veevus thread you guys
have been talking about. It is more expensive, but if it is as good I will
use it.

Scott


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chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

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 I thought I'd re-post this site with the gudebrod thread at an amazing
 price and selection, Chuck

 http://www.versitex.com/versitex/product.html?Id=FTTGBCCOL#7530

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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update

[Scott Bearden]

There is actually great fly fishing right around Camp David. And trust me,
they are not moving it to Colorado.

Tony, I believe that photo you speak of is actually in the Oval Office back
in 2009 when a number of his staffers got together and bought it for his
birthday. I am not sure he has been out fly fishing since he vacationed in
Yellowstone back in 2009.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

 **
 The wilderness is too hard for the secret service to secure.



  - Original Message -
 *From:* Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:25 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update

   Have you seen the photo of the President holding a fly rod with others
 watching him. He is inside of a building. I will say no more for fear of
 offending someone. The photo was posted on Facebook. Maybe you are right
 about Colorado.
 Tony

 --- On *Tue, 11/13/12, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com* wrote:


 From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 12:23 PM

  Hi JimmyD,

 Great to hear from you again.  And thanks for the health update.  Really
 glad you are on the mend.

 Spend more time flyfishing in Colorado to relieve yourself of those
 tremors.  LOL  Or Washington.

 Heard the White House is going to move Camp David to Colorado.  Must have
 to do with
 fly fishing.

 DonO



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Jimmy D. 
 Moorehttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ray...@earthlink.net
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:07 AM
 *Subject:* [VFB] Jimmy D. Update

 Hi Gang,  Sorry about being absent from the list so long.  Lotta
 catching up to do.

 Things are looking better.  I meet with the Baylor Sports Medical
 Group led by Doctor Jon Ellis each Thursday. Doc's group is the
 one that takes care of all injuries, etc. for, Baylor especially football.
 Highly recommended by Steve Corwin, one of my fly fishing Buds.

 I meet with him or one of his PA's each Thursday. Spend an hour doing
 really tough excercises with my feet.  He said that basically he would
 be re-building my FLAT feet, not to worry, they'll  Git-Er-Done. I can
 tell that my anklesare getting better.  If this keeps up, his 6 month plan
 will make a new man out of me. Soon as I finish the foot stuff, I'll move
 to my calves and thighs which have atrophied,  because of not being able
 to work them out on my Nautilis :knock off weight machine. The feet
 play a big part in my calves and thighs. Push with ankles, leg lifts,
 ankles. Not doing much walking outside of  walmart and HEB grocery.


 That's the good stuff.  Now, the not so good. I've been diagnosed with
 Essential Tremor.  I have very small tremors in my hands, which really,
 don't bother me except when I get aggravated or frustrated.  Even then
 the tremors don't interfere with anything, because when I think about
 it, the tremor goes away. t.

 Funny thing. .When a temor starts, I can just (tell it to quit, in my mind
 in my mind and it does.  No shaking when holding coffee cup, fork,
 etc. I can hold my notes and there's no tremor.  I can hold a sheet of
 paper and No Tremor, mind takes over and prevents the shaking
 My only bother is when I really get PO'ed , then my hands will shake
 until I tell them to stop. They Stop. very rare for essential tremor to
 morph into Parkinsons.  We have no family history of it.

 Doc said if the tremors start bothering me, he can give me a medication
 that will control them. The doc said most people with essential tremor
 never seek treatment never seek medical help.

 My back still acts up, but it's been six months since I last  had a
 chiropractic
 treatment..  The pain on/in my sacroaliac comes and goes. A hot shower
 usually
 quiets it down.

 JIMMY  D

 P. S. I've had no problems tying my flies and I'm optimistic about the foot
 getting back into good enough shape to *WADE !!!* :-)

 No decision yet on SOW BUG :-\

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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update now fly rod

[Scott Bearden]

 Tony,

Can you send us a link? The picture I saw is of him in the Oval office
holding the butt section with the reel attached. On one hand it looked to
me like he was admiring a gift that his staff just surprised him with.
However it also looks like he is trying to hold it like a spey rod. Every
newbie casts like crap, otherwise Joan Wolf and and army of casting
instructors around the world would be out of business. We all had to start
somewhere.

Scott

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   Did you see how he is holding it.
 I have never seen the photo before.
 Tony


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Re: [VFB] Sandy

[Scott Bearden]

We suffered no storm damage. A bunch of downed trees everywhere that
magically missed the power lines. Some neighborhoods are out though.

Scott

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My daughters in N.J. are OK, they have a lot of clean up to do. No power
 yet.
 How are the rest of you guys on the East Coast doing. Hope as well as my
 kids did.
 Arkansas Tony


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Re: [VFB] Flymph OVER FULL and Streamers Swap

[Scott Bearden]

I am in agreement with 13.


Scott

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let's do an even dozen and perhaps an extra for the swapmeisterin.  Joyce

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Re: [VFB] An idea for a swap

[Scott Bearden]

I would participate. I bought the attachment for my Nor-vise and
haven't used it yet.

Scott

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM,  haerb...@comcast.net wrote:
 I am wondering if there would be an interest in a tube fly swap.  Just
 testing the waters right now.  The swap would take place mid to late
 January.  I would hast but need to wait for our winter shut down

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Re: [VFB] re: Sandy

[Scott Bearden]

The weather channel said it hit Atlantic City dead on. Hopefully they get
power returned soon. It gets cold in a house fast this time of year. So far
I have been lucky, but the lights keep flickering reminding me that my
power could go at any time. It is high tide right now at 8:20pm and
supposedly there are ten foot waves on the Potomac.I live about 4 miles
away, but I am not going to go out and look.

Scott

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 I have two daughters with family living just a few miles from Atlantic
 City. So far they are OK but no power. The storm made land fall about 20
 minuets ago at Atlantic City .
 Tony

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 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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 Thinking of all my FF friends in the storm area and watching the weather
 channel. Prayers for your safety..appreciate updates. Here's hoping that
 you will continue to have power.  Joyce
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Re: [VFB] It's swap time! How about Flymph's and Streamers, with Wood Duck wings.

[Scott Bearden]

Peggy,

Put me down for a flymph as well.

Thanks,

Scott

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Peggy Brenner
peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote:
 Ten tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a
 spider type would be a great sub.

 1 Peggy B
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 7
 8
 9
 10

 Streamers, with wood duck wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in
 New England.  Due February 1, 2013

 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 7
 8
 9
 10

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Re: [VFB] another first

[Scott Bearden]

Very nice!

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Re: [VFB] Line weights

[Scott Bearden]

N! I love their lines. Can you say where you heard
that from?

Back on topic, why not just put something the equivalent of a small luggage
tag on the reel case zipper? Custom made dog tags? I am sure Staples has
something like a mini luggage tag. I guess I have not acquired enough reels
to experience this yet. I did just sell all of my offshore made reels to
buy a couple of used Abel's. The only foreign made reel I have left is a
gift from Wayne on this list and that I won't sell. Up to that point I
guess I memorized what line was on which reel, but I admit that isn't
exactly optimal.

Scott

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.comwrote:

 snip I hear Cortland is not making lines anymore.
  Tony


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Re: [VFB] Suspicious messages

[Scott Bearden]

Not here either. Not even in my spam folder. Usually these things hit your
entire contacts list for victims.

Scott

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote:

 I have received a couple of suspicious messages purporting to be from Ed
 Roden. Is any other list member receiving these messages?

 Neville (Nev) Gosling

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Re: [VFB] Hurricane Isaac

[Scott Bearden]

Even the worst day spent fishing is still better than a good day working.
It sounds like time well spent with family.

Scott

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My son and two of his friends are here.and they wanted to Trout Fish.
 There was a lull in the rain and we went out. Then things seemed to go
 wrong. Got all the stuff down to the boat and got ready to go. I hit the
 started and the outboard turned over and did not start. Checked the fuel
 and every thing else, all looked good. Hit the starter button and nothing,
 not even a click.. Pulled on the pull start and it would not start. I just
 spent 250.00 having it checked out at the Marina a month ago..
 Let it sit and tried pulling it again and it finally kicked off. We
 finally got out of the dock and up to Tucker. The boys got out and waded, I
 had to fish from the boat, I just can't wade anymore.
 Two of them were using spinning rods and my son was using the bamboo Fly
 rod I made for him. On the first cast one of his friends got a 17 Brown. A
 few casts later he got a Rainbow. His other friend got a Rainbow in the
 next few minuets. I rigged up with a Chili Pepper and motered up the river
 about 100 feet. A few casts and I missed a hit. A few more casts and missed
 another one.
 I changed to a floating ant. Nothing hit it then started to drizzle.
 Changed back to the Chili Pepper because I was in faster deeper water. I
 had two more hits but no hook ups. By then the drizzle turned into a hard
 rain. My son on the fly rod caught a couple of bows and broke off one..
 Needless to say by the time I collected all the guys back in the boat I
 was totally soaked.
 I let the outboard run all the time we were on the river hoping it would
 charge the battery. When we got back to the dock and shut down, I tried the
 starter again. Nothing doing. My son and his friends removed the battery
 and took it to be checked.. The battery was totally dead. Got a new battery
 and will give it another go later.
 This is the first time in years that I have fished Tucker and not caught a
 fish. I am thinking, I need to check the hook point on that fly, I missed
 too many fish on it.
 Tony


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Re: [VFB] Lead

[Scott Bearden]

The tungsten putty I have is quite messy during warm months, but firms up
well if you are fishing in a spring creek or tail water with cold water
temps. If you are winter fishing and the putty in the dispenser is hard as
a rock, slip it inside your gloves for a few minutes to loosten it up. The
bonus to this stuff is if you hang up on the bottom because of the weight,
you typically just lose the putty and apply more. Put a couple of pieces of
lead shot on and once they wedge into a tight spot you have lost most of
your leader and the flies with it. Tin shot is worthless and the stuff they
sell these days as lead free wire is mostly tin. Very little weight
advantage to make it worth it. Tungsten on the other hand is fantastic IMHO.

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Dail Grahm

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Oh no. Dail was such a wonderful guy. Please pass my condolences to his
family. Was he at this last Sowbug? I thought he was.

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Carp

[Scott Bearden]

They are destructive to trout reds I will tell you that. Carp can live in
just about any kind of water, including the clean cold water needed by
trout and I have watched in horror as enormous carp clean out reds from
recently spawned trout. I just don't like non-native species. Carp are
invasive species to this entire continent. They were brought over by
Europeans in the 1800
s. I would go so far as to say that all non-native species of trout are a
pest as well. Brown trout shouldn't be on this continent either. Rainbow
trout belong on the west coast. Brook trout belong East of the Mississippi
not in Colorado or Montana. People seem to think that because it is their
favorite sport fish or food, that they can introduce it wherever they
please. We have the snakehead all over the Potomac watershed and in 20
years this river system where I live won't ever be the same all because
some enterprising individuals wanted to catch it and put it on their dinner
plate. Look at what Lake trout have done to decimate the populations of
native cutthroats in Yellowstone lake. I go fishing because I stand in awe
of what nature provides for quarry, not what I wish it had. As far as I am
concerned carp make great lawn fertilizer.

Scott

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:36 PM, The Smiths aflyt...@comcast.net wrote:

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 Simple question.  Lets see if it causes as big of an up roar here as it
 did in my local TU chapter.
 Question.How many on this site fly fish for carp?

 Gary S

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Re: [VFB] Grappling Hook

[Scott Bearden]

Personally I would try rare earth magnets. They will probably only latch on
to the guides since they are steel underneath (unless it has those Recoil
guides), but their gripping power is amazing. If you have any old hard
drives laying around inside lies one of the most powerful magnets you could
ever hope for. It is the same concept as a mechanic's wand with the magnet
on the tip to retrieve tools and parts that fell an engine bay or something
like a 55 gallon drum of oil.

Scott

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

 Here is what I plan to use to retrieve my rod  reel.





 Thank you,

 Alan Di Somma



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Re: [VFB] Aug. 2012 Roll Call- Who's still here and tuning in?

[Scott Bearden]

Still here.

Sent from my Kindle Fire



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Re: [VFB]Weather

[Scott Bearden]

Tony,

That is an organization technique I picked up on in Mary Dette's fly shop.
I noticed she had the shelves lined with shoe box sized tupper ware and
each box was labeled with a pattern and presumably held all the contents
needed to tie that fly.

Scott

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Scott,
 Really that is all you need to do a show. I am down to doing one or two
 different flies at shows. I put the materials I need to tie that fly in a
 Ziplock bag so I have it all in one place. That saves me looking for the
 material when I get ready to tie that one fly. The last show I did in May,
 I tied nothing but Knitpikin Mayflies from the time the show opened in the
 morning till it ended that evening. Had new people watching my tie all day.
 Tony


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Re: [VFB]Weather

[Scott Bearden]

Suitcase? I envy your minimalist approach. I am still working out of my
seabag from my time in the Marines.

Scott


On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 **
 Yeah, but Scott, if your fly tying bag is like my fly tying bag, it's
 bigger than my suitcase.  G

 a.
 *From central indiana, where we have been officially declared a major
 drought disaster area by whatever Federal dept. makes such declarations.)


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Re: [VFB] snake guide ?

[Scott Bearden]

More likely a 2 than a 2/0.guide sizes are the opposite of hook sizes. 2/0
is very small. A size 2 is also kind of small, but that may have been what
they used. I would venture a guess at a number 4 after the stripper guide.

Scott

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I need to replace a snake guide on an old Montague bambool rod.
 Second one up from the reel.  Is this a size 2 or a 2/0?
 I can't figure out how they number them.
 Thanks for any help on this.

 Rick

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Re: [VFB] Mayfly shedding???

[Scott Bearden]

Chuck,

Once they molt, they return to the water they came from. I have heard some
scientists say that they return within hundreds of feet of the water they
came from with great accuracy. What you saw alive in your lampshade was a
Dun, or basically a young adult mayfly that probably emerged from a nearby
body of water within the previous 12-24 hours. They are drawn to lights at
night time. Gas station stall lights near streams/rivers/lakes are often
clogged with mayflies, caddis and stoneflies you just have to look up. This
is probably how yours came to rest in your lampshade. It was drawn to the
light. They hang out for a few hours or maybe a day. They shed their Dun
shuck and wait for the temperature/humidity or whatever conditions are
right to return to the stream. At this stage they are now a spinner and the
only thing they have left to do is mate and die within the next few minutes
or hours.

What you saw was very likely its already muted colors. The hexes I have
seen don't necessarily get brighter, but the belly gets brown.

Scott

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

 **
 Folks: I have tried and tried to take a photo of it, but remember a cpl
 weeks back and that beautiful Hex mayfly landed on my lampshade Well,
 today, my wife was cleaning house and found his shed exoskeleton stuck to
 the lampshade. It was just like when a snake sheds it's skin. I didn't
 think these flies had a long enough lifespan to shed like that?? My wife
 seems to thing that the reason he was such a vivid color of yellow/gold is
 that he had JUST shed his skin. What say ya'll?? Thanks, Chuck

 I'll continue to try and take a photo, but I can't seem to get the
 lighting/focus just right to show it for how it really looks in person.

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[VFB] anybody up for a Hex swap?

[Scott Bearden]

Since all of this talk about Hex's got me thinking how few patterns of
these you see. I used to go up to a bamboo rod makers gathering in
Grayling, Michigan that had a famous hex hatch about the end of June. I
won't make it up there this year, but I miss seeing those enormous mayflies
and the sounds they made. When they would hit the surface there were so
many of them that the pops sounded like popcorn popping just muffled. When
they were mating in the air it sounded like linens of tissue paper being
ruffled together. And the sight of them in swarm was something of epic
proportions that I simply fail to put into words. But I digress.

Anybody up for a swap? I have never hosted, so do we have a swap meister
who would like to?

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [VFB] test

[Scott Bearden]

Nope. :P

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.netwrote:

 testing.  Anybody out there?

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Re: [VFB] REC Recoil single foot guides

[Scott Bearden]

The Recoil guides, as novel and revolutionary as they were, just couldn't
handle that kind of stress in colder temperatures. Repeated exposure and
stress under cold temps made the guides brittle. Like Tony, I exclusively
use snake brand guides.

Scott

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 I had two REC guides break on my TFO BVK 8-weight.  My fault they broke, I
 was using the guides as leverage to disassemble the rod when I had muddy,
 wet hands.  But when TFO replaced the rod, they didn't have REC guides on
 the new one.  My shop owner said they quit using them because of excessive
 breakage.

 Jack
 Austin


 On 4/10/2012 6:18 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:

 Hi Tony:

 The REC recoil guides were fitted to my Swedish Guideline LeCie
 double-handed rod which I brought back from the UK a few years ago. These
 guides were the recoil single foot style as originally fitted to the rod.
 The problem was that of breakage. Last September on my extended trip to
 Northern BC for steelhead, I discovered first one, then two broken guides,
 necessitating a trip to the local town for some emergency replacements (not
 recoil) which I held in place with fly tying thread followed by a couple of
 coats of Sally Hansen's. Then in January, on a lengthy day trip , I had
 another guide break. Interestingly, the broken guides were the top two of
 the middle joint and the bottom one of the top joint. In other words, they
 were all sequential. Now, I'm not over lining the rod and I don't know the
 cause, but each guide fractured in the same place, just as it leaves the
 thread wrap. I contacted REC and at their request, I mailed them two of the
 broken guides. They took a long time to respond and then sent me two
 replacements, which was no good as they knew that 3 were broken. I felt the
 whole lot were suspect and that they all should be replaced. I had a long
 telephone conversation with Dave Lyons of the Angler's Workshop and settled
 on complete replacement with Snake brand snakes with a fuji tiptop. This is
 the only way that I could be reasonably sure that the problem should not
 re-occurr. Maybe the batch fitted to my rod was just a bad batch, but I
 wouldn't buy another rod with REC single legs and I provided that
 information to Guideline's chief rod designer Lief Stavmo as feedback.

 I like the rod, but not the guides.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling



  On 2012-04-10, at 3:28 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote:

   What do you not like about the Recoil guides. I have been using Snake
 Brand Snake guides on all the Bamboo rods I made for the past 12 years. I
 like the Snake Brand guides.
  Tony


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Re: [VFB] Re: Mark Romero

[Scott Bearden]

This is very sad news. I met Mark at the same time I first met Tony in
person up at the Catskills Bamboo Rodmakers gathering in  Roscoe, NY. Mark
was a very warm and open person and he and Misa invited Tony and I over to
their house before we left town. We got a tour of their very impressive
tying room. They had more hooks than Bass Pro Shops. And not just any
hooks, thousands of very nice salmon hooks. I know Mark was known for
rubbing a few people the wrong way, but he was nothing but kind to me. I
didn't get to spend much time with him at the last Sowbug, but I am glad I
stopped by his station when he had a few slow minutes and got to talk for a
bit. My thoughts and prayers are with Misa.

Scott

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges
wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote:

   This comes as a shock, just yesterday afternoon I recieved an update on
 Mark that he had just returned from treatment and was at home recovering.

 Rest in peace Mark and Condolences to Misa.

 Wayneb

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 From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [VFB] Re: Mark Romero
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:56 AM


   Thanks for the information. It was just a few weeks ago that I heard he
 had Cancer.
 Tony

   *From:* Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2012 4:42 AM
 *Subject:* AW: [VFB] More B-day wishes
   It is with heavy heart that I tell you of the passing of Mark Romero.
 This past evening Mark lost his battle with stage four lung cancer. His
 wife, Misako will need our love and support as she goes through this trying
 time.
  http://www.royalcoachman.net/
  All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my 
 hand.http://www.royalcoachman.net/

*Thomas R. Eckert*
  Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH
 Switzerland

Tel.:
  +41442628367


   *Von:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ] *Im
 Auftrag von *Wayne Blake-Hedges
 *Gesendet:* Montag, 19. März 2012 01:51
 *An:* virtual flybox
 *Betreff:* Re: [VFB] More B-day wishes

   Hi Alan;
 I was planning on using a piece from my discard bag!
 Wayne

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 *To: * vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ;
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 *Sent: *Mon, Mar 19, 2012 12:43:35 AM
   Hi Alan;
 
 I was thinking of coating a piece of chenille with tying wax for a candle
 LOL!
 
 Wayneb

 That would be a waste of good chenille.  :-)

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Re: [VFB]

[Scott Bearden]

My advice is don't try to thin it, get a fresh batch. I know people try to
save things and not let things go to waste, but in this case you are
running up against something that has run its chemical course. I use
varnish mostly for bamboo rod making, but once it starts to set I get a
fresh batch. What is happening is the polymers are cross linking and
forming a bond. You really can't reverse that without consequences. If you
are using it to bond to the thread and hold things together, thinning it,
especially after it has started to set or gel will weaken the final cured
product. If you want to thin it when it is fresh, just remember that less
is better.

Lacquers and Varnishes pretty much use two different thinners. You can use
Acetone based thinners for lacquer, but don't use that for varnish it just
destroys it. For most varnishes you should look at the MSDS and see what
the thinning component used is. Turpentine is my personal preference, but
mineral spirits work too. Naptha is another thinner for varnishes. Use the
same thinner the manufacturer used and you should be all right. It does
make a difference.

The Dettes only used varnish on their flies and they bought it in bulk from
the hardware store. I personally prefer the Ace Hardware Spar varnish.
There is a difference between spar varnish and poly varnishes. Poly will
dry and cure faster for flies, but the bottle will probably go bad faster
as well. You can buy a small 4 ounce can from most hardware stores for just
a few dollars, and some high quality stuff at artist supply stores. Get
some smaller bottles and divide it up. Fill them to the top. Oxygen is your
worst enemy and the greater volume of air in the bottle and the greater
surface area of the top of the varnish, the faster things are going to work
against you.

Regards,

Scott

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote:



 I use lacquer thinners. Works for me.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling


 On 2012-03-12, at 7:10 AM, Bob Hendry wrote:

  'Mornin Folks,

 Can someone please tell me what I should use to thin Veniard's Cellire
 Varnish?  Mine is starting to thicken-up a bit to the point where I don't
 believe that it can soak through a thread head.  I know that Veniard's
 markets a proprietary thinner, but I'd like to avoid laying out another $5
 or $6 to buy it.

 Thanks.

 **

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Neville that sounds like lacquer by the description and considering that
lingo changes from one country to the next, it is quite possible that what
they are calling varnish, we market as lacquer at least here in the US.
Lacquer thinner is nothing more than acetone or acetate or similar liquid.
It will also strip old varnish and of course that is what women use for
nail polish remover. Varnish thinners wont strip strip varnish so chemicals
like naptha, toluene, minerla spirits and the such are only good for
thinning the product and cleaning up immediately after application. Once
the curing process has begun they have no effect on actually thinning the
varnish.

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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote:


 I first used Cellire in the 1950's and I have gone back to it now that it
 is available again. Was hard to get for many years, I used to buy mine in
 the UK.  I now have 3 bottles of Cellire. clear, red and black.  I use the
 coloured cellire primarily for steelhead flies. The red bottle is well over
 5 years old, but I have kept it thinned with lacquer thinner without any
 problems at all.  It just works regardless of any cross linking!

 Neville (Nev) Gosling


  On 2012-03-12, at 8:51 AM, Scott Bearden wrote:

 My advice is don't try to thin it, get a fresh batch. I know people try to
 save things and not let things go to waste, but in this case you are
 running up against something that has run its chemical course. I use
 varnish mostly for bamboo rod making, but once it starts to set I get a
 fresh batch. What is happening is the polymers are cross linking and
 forming a bond. You really can't reverse that without consequences. If you
 are using it to bond to the thread and hold things together, thinning it,
 especially after it has started to set or gel will weaken the final cured
 product. If you want to thin it when it is fresh, just remember that less
 is better.

 Lacquers and Varnishes pretty much use two different thinners. You can use
 Acetone based thinners for lacquer, but don't use that for varnish it just
 destroys it. For most varnishes you should look at the MSDS and see what
 the thinning component used is. Turpentine is my personal preference, but
 mineral spirits work too. Naptha is another thinner for varnishes. Use the
 same thinner the manufacturer used and you should be all right. It does
 make a difference.

 The Dettes only used varnish on their flies and they bought it in bulk
 from the hardware store. I personally prefer the Ace Hardware Spar varnish.
 There is a difference between spar varnish and poly varnishes. Poly will
 dry and cure faster for flies, but the bottle will probably go bad faster
 as well. You can buy a small 4 ounce can from most hardware stores for just
 a few dollars, and some high quality stuff at artist supply stores. Get
 some smaller bottles and divide it up. Fill them to the top. Oxygen is your
 worst enemy and the greater volume of air in the bottle and the greater
 surface area of the top of the varnish, the faster things are going to work
 against you.

 Regards,

 Scott

 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote:



 I use lacquer thinners. Works for me.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling


  On 2012-03-12, at 7:10 AM, Bob Hendry wrote:

  'Mornin Folks,

 Can someone please tell me what I should use to thin Veniard's Cellire
 Varnish?  Mine is starting to thicken-up a bit to the point where I don't
 believe that it can soak through a thread head.  I know that Veniard's
 markets a proprietary thinner, but I'd like to avoid laying out another $5
 or $6 to buy it.

 Thanks.

 **

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 %2f%2...@majbob.com*
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