[videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Eric Rice

One of the things I pinged the good folks about Podcast Pickle about was 
ratings based on 
a USER's favorite vlogs. While popularity and star systems have their place in 
certain cases, 
what's most important to me is how my favorites rank other vlogs.

For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want to look at 
his personal 
list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If I'm giving trust to Peter as a 
filter, then his 
rankings really really matter. To *me*. 

Two cents.

ER


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter of MeFeddia says:
 
 1 example is: I
 don't allow star ratings with reviews, because that would encourage a
 mindset of popularity is important.
 
 Sorry to say that I disagree with you.  Star ratings are actually very 
 important and should 
be allowed.  That is especially true when the star ratings are accompanied by 
text 
critiques.
 
 I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the anointed few. 
 
 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
 
 Videographer, Writer, Activist
 Advisor: The Immortality Institute
 Hoboken, NJ
 http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
 201-656-3280
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: petertheman 
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:29 AM
   Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for
 
 
 
 I think vlogging can be greatly impacted through directories. 
   That is why
 we as a community should work to set up an open directory that
   will become
 the accepted norm.  Otherwise, others will set up slanted and
   manipulated
 and even closed directories.
 
   I am (clearly, since I built Mefeedia.com) a believer in directories.
   They have their pros and cons. And I do believe strongly that having
   *open* directories is very important. I try hard to make Mefeedia
   open, and there are things I still need to work on. 1 example is: I
   don't allow star ratings with reviews, because that would encourage a
   mindset of popularity is important. 
 
   Sorting by popularity is something I do on the /feeds/ page (because
   you have to sort by something), but it's the easy way out. I don't
   like it, and I'm adding other sorting options in the next version
   (coming out end next week). The problem with popularity is not just
   that it encourages the popular mindset (is this highschool or what?)
   but also: what is the algorythm? Right now, in Mefeedia it's just
   amount of videos watched. But that's not that great.
 
   So anyways, what does an open directory mean?
 
   Having a directory is great for 2 things: to introduce newbies to
   videobloggers, and to go find some new stuff you didn't know about. 
 
   Having an open directory means that all videobloggers have an equal
   chance to get listed in the directory, and to get discovered in the
   directory. It means that you don't just promote the popular and
   commercial stuff, but that you actively try to promote the unknown
   vlogs too.
 
   Enough ranting!
   Peter
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[videoblogging] Re: Initial iPod Compatibility Tests

2005-11-27 Thread Enric
I finally figured out how to return to Quicktime 6 on my G5 with
Panther.  I had upgraded to Quicktime 7 and the downgrade to Quicktime
6 didn't work correctly.  

I kept thinking if I had another OS installation, I could put
Quicktime 6 on it.  Then I thought, duhhh, I do have another OS -- OS
9.  So I installed classic, downloaded Quicktime 6.03 for classic and
installed 3ivx 4.5.1 for OS 9.

So to test I exported from Final Cut Pro 4.5 as self contained
quicktime movie the short film.  I loaded that into Quictime 6.03
classic and exported using 3ivx.  I got the old 3ivx menus and dual
pass option for Limit data rate to __ KBytes/sec.  Yea!

  -- Enric

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 That's the same version that they've had.  Are you sure it worked  
 correctly?  The bug in QT 7 is that when you do dual pass and limit  
 the bit rate, at say 600kbps, it won't respect that and will use  
 whatever is necessary to make a pristine file - something like  
 1500kbps.  Can you verify this?
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Re: [videoblogging] experimental video ~ feedback

2005-11-27 Thread Chris Baudry



Really cool! Abstract until you get through the scupture.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Frank Carver
Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
 Sorry to say that I disagree with you.  Star ratings are actually
 very important and should be allowed.  That is especially true when
 the star ratings are accompanied by text critiques.
 I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the anointed few.

To me the point is more fundamental. A star system or any other form
of single rating is at best _evaluative_ without being _informative_.
In most cases it's ao much worse as to be effectively useless of even
deceptive.

The problem is fundamentally this: the author of the rating has to
choose one single axis on which to rate a piece. But this axis is
probably not the one that any given reader wants to know. Worst of
all, most reviewers don't even make clear _what_ axis they assumed was
most significant.

Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, Eric Rice wrote:
 For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want
 to look at his personal list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If
 I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his rankings really
 really matter. To *me*.

So we have Eric looking for ratings on coolness. (whatever that
means).

Sunday, November 27, 2005, 3:16:11 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
 I have been talking about the need for people to direct us to really
 important vlogs. Let me take a stab at doing this here. I hope you
 will indulge me and look at these two links.

Randolfe implies some sort of rating on importance. (whatever that
means).

In the past I've read messages on this list that seemed to prefer
rating on quality, brevity, most personal, most professional,
best editing, most local, most entertaining and as many other
hard-to-define things as you can think of.

Take a look at the star ratings on Amazon (for example) and see if
you can guess what aspect the authors of the ratings were considering.

Now look at how the ratings polarize. Good ratings vie with each
other to get better. Bad ones get worse. Few are left in the middle.

It's a natural process. Nobody has seen or read everything. So when
you encounter something you like, you give it a good rating. Then, a
bit later, you encounter something you like a bit better, or your
opinions change, so you give another item a higher rating. Then guess
what, a bit later you find something you like even more. So you have
to give that an even better rating.

Soon, you find yourself giving everything you like top marks. And the
same effect happens at the bottom end of the scale. There's always
something you will dislike more. But fewer of these ratings get
published, for fear of hurting people's feelings.

Don't get me wrong. I'm wholeheartedly in favour of reviews. The more
description and evaluation and the broader the range of reviewers and
opinions the better, especially when they is qualified

(I thought the camera work was very professional, but I found myself
skipping quickly through what seemed a dull message. If you are
looking for a short, punchy and exciting piece, look elsewhere)

But I feel quite strongly that attempting to assign a single universal
number to anything is deluding both yourself and potential readers.
Let them read the review and make their own mind up which aspects are
important to them. Don't con them into thinking that you both
understand what they want to know, and can grade it on their own
scale.

In short. I'm with Peter. Bring on the reviews, but leave the
fools-gold of ratings at home.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Devlon
I like this idea.  It's almost like the reviews, but shorter and
easier for me as a user to indicate that I liked a feed (instead of
typing up a review)

Reviews are still great and very helpful.

On 11/27/05, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  One of the things I pinged the good folks about Podcast Pickle about was
 ratings based on
  a USER's favorite vlogs. While popularity and star systems have their place
 in certain cases,
  what's most important to me is how my favorites rank other vlogs.

  For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want to look
 at his personal
  list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If I'm giving trust to Peter as a
 filter, then his
  rankings really really matter. To *me*.

  Two cents.

  ER



  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   Peter of MeFeddia says:
  
   1 example is: I
   don't allow star ratings with reviews, because that would encourage a
   mindset of popularity is important.
  
   Sorry to say that I disagree with you.  Star ratings are actually very
 important and should
  be allowed.  That is especially true when the star ratings are accompanied
 by text
  critiques.
  
   I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the anointed few.
  
   Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
  
   Videographer, Writer, Activist
   Advisor: The Immortality Institute
   Hoboken, NJ
   http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
   201-656-3280
  
  
 - Original Message -
 From: petertheman
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:29 AM
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for
  
  
  
   I think vlogging can be greatly impacted through directories.
 That is why
   we as a community should work to set up an open directory that
 will become
   the accepted norm.  Otherwise, others will set up slanted and
 manipulated
   and even closed directories.
  
 I am (clearly, since I built Mefeedia.com) a believer in directories.
 They have their pros and cons. And I do believe strongly that having
 *open* directories is very important. I try hard to make Mefeedia
 open, and there are things I still need to work on. 1 example is: I
 don't allow star ratings with reviews, because that would encourage a
 mindset of popularity is important.
  
 Sorting by popularity is something I do on the /feeds/ page (because
 you have to sort by something), but it's the easy way out. I don't
 like it, and I'm adding other sorting options in the next version
 (coming out end next week). The problem with popularity is not just
 that it encourages the popular mindset (is this highschool or what?)
 but also: what is the algorythm? Right now, in Mefeedia it's just
 amount of videos watched. But that's not that great.
  
 So anyways, what does an open directory mean?
  
 Having a directory is great for 2 things: to introduce newbies to
 videobloggers, and to go find some new stuff you didn't know about.
  
 Having an open directory means that all videobloggers have an equal
 chance to get listed in the directory, and to get discovered in the
 directory. It means that you don't just promote the popular and
 commercial stuff, but that you actively try to promote the unknown
 vlogs too.
  
 Enough ranting!
 Peter
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[videoblogging] Shameless Plug

2005-11-27 Thread Paul Knight
Hi all,

I just made a new video and I would like to invite all and sundry to see it, It 
has been 
languishing in at Blip.tv since this morning and although it's comedy itself, 
hardly anyone 
has glimpsed it.  Maybe the humour is not to the American taste, I dunno, but 
for those of 
you who are interested, check it out now, please.

http://www.blip.tv/file/5335
http://www.dailymotion.com/pjkproductions/video/10764

And also on my site.

The French Version will be available soon, by the end of the day, once I have 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





The problem with "links" is that they are to 
another complete set of vlogs. While many vloggers are consistently better 
than others, most of us are very "uneven" in the quality of our 
output.

If people would link to specific vlogs, that would 
be much better.

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The 
Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric Rice 

  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:09 
  AM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can 
  not be spoken for
  One of the things I pinged the good folks about Podcast 
  Pickle about was ratings based on a USER's favorite vlogs. While 
  popularity and star systems have their place in certain cases, what's most 
  important to me is how my favorites rank other vlogs.For example, what 
  does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want to look at his personal 
  list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If I'm giving trust to Peter as 
  a filter, then his rankings really really matter. To *me*. Two 
  cents.ER--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe 
  Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter of MeFeddia 
  says:  "1 example is: I don't allow star ratings with 
  reviews, because that would encourage a mindset of "popularity is 
  important".  Sorry to say that I disagree with you. Star 
  ratings are actually very important and should be allowed. That is 
  especially true when the star ratings are accompanied by text 
  critiques.  I trust the judgment of many over the opinions 
  of the "anointed few".   Randolfe (Randy) Wicker 
   Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality 
  Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 
  201-656-3280   - Original Message 
  -  From: petertheman  To: 
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com  Sent: Saturday, November 
  26, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can 
  not be spoken for  I 
  think vlogging can be greatly impacted through directories. 
   That is why   we as a 
  community should work to set up an "open directory" that 
  will become   the accepted norm. Otherwise, 
  others will set up slanted and 
  manipulated   and even "closed" 
  directories.  I am (clearly, since I built 
  Mefeedia.com) a believer in directories. They have their 
  pros and cons. And I do believe strongly that having 
  *open* directories is very important. I try hard to make 
  Mefeedia open, and there are things I still need to work 
  on. 1 example is: I don't allow star ratings with reviews, 
  because that would encourage a mindset of "popularity is 
  important".   Sorting by popularity is something I 
  do on the /feeds/ page (because you have to sort by 
  something), but it's the easy way out. I don't like it, 
  and I'm adding other sorting options in the next version 
  (coming out end next week). The problem with popularity is not 
  just that it encourages the "popular" mindset (is this 
  highschool or what?) but also: what is the algorythm? 
  Right now, in Mefeedia it's just amount of videos watched. 
  But that's not that great.  So anyways, what does 
  an "open" directory mean?  Having a directory is 
  great for 2 things: to introduce newbies to videobloggers, 
  and to go find some new stuff you didn't know about.  
   Having an "open" directory means that all videobloggers 
  have an equal chance to get listed in the directory, and 
  to get discovered in the directory. It means that you 
  don't just promote the popular and commercial stuff, but 
  that you actively try to promote the unknown vlogs 
  too.  Enough ranting! 
  Peter -- http://mefeedia.com
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





It is not the actual "star rating" that is 
revealing on Amazon. It is the text accompanying the rating. Someone 
might give a book a "one-star" rating and in writing about the book say 
something like "exposes like this one on the high rate of theft in Columbia do a 
disservice to the country."

So, if you are planning to take a trip to Columbia, 
you would take that "One-star" rating as a good reason to buy the book so as to 
be aware of the dangers lurking for tourists.


Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Frank 
  Carver 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:22 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit 
  can not be spoken for
  Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker 
  wrote: Sorry to say that I disagree with you. Star ratings are 
  actually very important and should be allowed. That is 
  especially true when the star ratings are accompanied by text 
  critiques. I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the 
  "anointed few".To me the point is more fundamental. A "star system" or 
  any other formof single rating is at best _evaluative_ without being 
  _informative_.In most cases it's ao much worse as to be effectively 
  useless of evendeceptive.The problem is fundamentally this: the 
  author of the rating has tochoose one single "axis" on which to rate a 
  piece. But this axis isprobably not the one that any given reader wants to 
  know. Worst ofall, most reviewers don't even make clear _what_ axis they 
  assumed wasmost significant.Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, 
  Eric Rice wrote: For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to 
  know. I want to look at his personal list of favorites, see how he 
  ranks them. If I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his 
  rankings really really matter. To *me*.So we have Eric looking 
  for ratings on "coolness". (whatever thatmeans).Sunday, November 
  27, 2005, 3:16:11 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: I have been talking about 
  the need for people to direct us to really important vlogs. Let me 
  take a stab at doing this here. I hope you will indulge me and look at 
  these two links.Randolfe implies some sort of rating on "importance". 
  (whatever thatmeans).In the past I've read messages on this list 
  that seemed to preferrating on "quality", "brevity", "most personal", 
  "most professional","best editing", "most local", "most entertaining" and 
  as many otherhard-to-define things as you can think of.Take a look 
  at the "star" ratings on Amazon (for example) and see ifyou can guess what 
  aspect the authors of the ratings were considering.Now look at how the 
  ratings polarize. "Good" ratings vie with eachother to get better. Bad 
  ones get worse. Few are left in the middle.It's a natural process. 
  Nobody has seen or read everything. So whenyou encounter something you 
  like, you give it a good rating. Then, abit later, you encounter something 
  you like a bit better, or youropinions change, so you give another item a 
  higher rating. Then guesswhat, a bit later you find something you like 
  even more. So you haveto give that an even better rating.Soon, you 
  find yourself giving everything you like top marks. And thesame effect 
  happens at the bottom end of the scale. There's alwayssomething you will 
  dislike more. But fewer of these ratings getpublished, for fear of hurting 
  people's feelings.Don't get me wrong. I'm wholeheartedly in favour of 
  reviews. The moredescription and evaluation and the broader the range of 
  reviewers andopinions the better, especially when they is 
  qualified("I thought the camera work was very professional, but I 
  found myselfskipping quickly through what seemed a dull message. If you 
  arelooking for a short, punchy and exciting piece, look 
  elsewhere")But I feel quite strongly that attempting to assign a 
  single universalnumber to anything is deluding both yourself and potential 
  readers.Let them read the review and make their own mind up which aspects 
  areimportant to them. Don't con them into thinking that you 
  bothunderstand what they want to know, and can grade it on their 
  ownscale.In short. I'm with Peter. Bring on the reviews, but leave 
  thefools-gold of ratings at home.-- Frank Carver 
  http://www.makevideo.org.uk

  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Arabs Terrorize Faggots

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





I think of myself as a journalist. Rarely, do 
I do a vlog or story about an event I am personally and socially involved 
in. I made an exception for my latest episode:
http://blip.tv/file/get/RandolfeWicker-ARABSTERRORIZEFAGGOTS997.mov

It is a little over six minutes long. I 
wonder if it would have been wiser to make two three-minute vlogs? I just 
happened to have the camera on and filming when the violence and threats 
flared. It still leaves me shaking.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let other users
know that you found the review helpful or not. This type of feedback
promotes trust in the system. People who are considered good reviewers
rise to the top of the reviews.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is not the actual star rating that is revealing on Amazon.  It is the
 text accompanying the rating.  Someone might give a book a one-star rating
 and in writing about the book say something like exposes like this one on
 the high rate of theft in Columbia do a disservice to the country.

 So, if you are planning to take a trip to Columbia, you would take that
 One-star rating as a good reason to buy the book so as to be aware of the
 dangers lurking for tourists.


 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

 Videographer, Writer, Activist
 Advisor: The Immortality Institute
 Hoboken, NJ
 http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
 201-656-3280



 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Carver
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  Sorry to say that I disagree with you.  Star ratings are actually
  very important and should be allowed.  That is especially true when
  the star ratings are accompanied by text critiques.
  I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the anointed few.

 To me the point is more fundamental. A star system or any other form
 of single rating is at best _evaluative_ without being _informative_.
 In most cases it's ao much worse as to be effectively useless of even
 deceptive.

 The problem is fundamentally this: the author of the rating has to
 choose one single axis on which to rate a piece. But this axis is
 probably not the one that any given reader wants to know. Worst of
 all, most reviewers don't even make clear _what_ axis they assumed was
 most significant.

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, Eric Rice wrote:
  For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want
  to look at his personal list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If
  I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his rankings really
  really matter. To *me*.

 So we have Eric looking for ratings on coolness. (whatever that
 means).

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 3:16:11 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  I have been talking about the need for people to direct us to really
  important vlogs. Let me take a stab at doing this here. I hope you
  will indulge me and look at these two links.

 Randolfe implies some sort of rating on importance. (whatever that
 means).

 In the past I've read messages on this list that seemed to prefer
 rating on quality, brevity, most personal, most professional,
 best editing, most local, most entertaining and as many other
 hard-to-define things as you can think of.

 Take a look at the star ratings on Amazon (for example) and see if
 you can guess what aspect the authors of the ratings were considering.

 Now look at how the ratings polarize. Good ratings vie with each
 other to get better. Bad ones get worse. Few are left in the middle.

 It's a natural process. Nobody has seen or read everything. So when
 you encounter something you like, you give it a good rating. Then, a
 bit later, you encounter something you like a bit better, or your
 opinions change, so you give another item a higher rating. Then guess
 what, a bit later you find something you like even more. So you have
 to give that an even better rating.

 Soon, you find yourself giving everything you like top marks. And the
 same effect happens at the bottom end of the scale. There's always
 something you will dislike more. But fewer of these ratings get
 published, for fear of hurting people's feelings.

 Don't get me wrong. I'm wholeheartedly in favour of reviews. The more
 description and evaluation and the broader the range of reviewers and
 opinions the better, especially when they is qualified

 (I thought the camera work was very professional, but I found myself
 skipping quickly through what seemed a dull message. If you are
 looking for a short, punchy and exciting piece, look elsewhere)

 But I feel quite strongly that attempting to assign a single universal
 number to anything is deluding both yourself and potential readers.
 Let them read the review and make their own mind up which aspects are
 important to them. Don't con them into thinking that you both
 understand what they want to know, and can grade it on their own
 scale.

 In short. I'm with Peter. Bring on the reviews, but leave the
 fools-gold of ratings at home.

 --
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Very good point, Josh. People are said to 
"vote with their feet". Would we say that viewers on the Internet vote 
with their "mice" :)

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Joshua 
  Kinberg 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:12 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit 
  can not be spoken for
  Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let 
  other usersknow that you found the review helpful or not. This type of 
  feedbackpromotes trust in the system. People who are considered good 
  reviewersrise to the top of the reviews.-JoshOn 
  11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: It is not the actual "star rating" that is revealing on 
  Amazon. It is the text accompanying the rating. Someone 
  might give a book a "one-star" rating and in writing about the book 
  say something like "exposes like this one on the high rate of theft in 
  Columbia do a disservice to the country." So, if you are 
  planning to take a trip to Columbia, you would take that "One-star" 
  rating as a good reason to buy the book so as to be aware of the 
  dangers lurking for tourists. Randolfe (Randy) 
  Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The 
  Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 
  201-656-3280 - Original Message 
  - From: Frank Carver To: 
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 
  8:22 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken 
  for Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker 
  wrote:  Sorry to say that I disagree with you. Star ratings 
  are actually  very important and should be allowed. That is 
  especially true when  the star ratings are accompanied by text 
  critiques.  I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the 
  "anointed few". To me the point is more fundamental. A "star 
  system" or any other form of single rating is at best _evaluative_ 
  without being _informative_. In most cases it's ao much worse as to be 
  effectively useless of even deceptive. The problem is 
  fundamentally this: the author of the rating has to choose one single 
  "axis" on which to rate a piece. But this axis is probably not the one 
  that any given reader wants to know. Worst of all, most reviewers 
  don't even make clear _what_ axis they assumed was most 
  significant. Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, Eric Rice 
  wrote:  For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to 
  know. I want  to look at his personal list of favorites, see how 
  he ranks them. If  I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his 
  rankings really  really matter. To *me*. So we 
  have Eric looking for ratings on "coolness". (whatever that 
  means). Sunday, November 27, 2005, 3:16:11 AM, Randolfe Wicker 
  wrote:  I have been talking about the need for people to direct us 
  to really  important vlogs. Let me take a stab at doing this here. 
  I hope you  will indulge me and look at these two 
  links. Randolfe implies some sort of rating on "importance". 
  (whatever that means). In the past I've read messages 
  on this list that seemed to prefer rating on "quality", "brevity", 
  "most personal", "most professional", "best editing", "most local", 
  "most entertaining" and as many other hard-to-define things as you can 
  think of. Take a look at the "star" ratings on Amazon (for 
  example) and see if you can guess what aspect the authors of the 
  ratings were considering. Now look at how the ratings 
  polarize. "Good" ratings vie with each other to get better. Bad ones 
  get worse. Few are left in the middle. It's a natural process. 
  Nobody has seen or read everything. So when you encounter something 
  you like, you give it a good rating. Then, a bit later, you encounter 
  something you like a bit better, or your opinions change, so you give 
  another item a higher rating. Then guess what, a bit later you find 
  something you like even more. So you have to give that an even better 
  rating. Soon, you find yourself giving everything you like top 
  marks. And the same effect happens at the bottom end of the scale. 
  There's always something you will dislike more. But fewer of these 
  ratings get published, for fear of hurting people's 
  feelings. Don't get me wrong. I'm wholeheartedly in favour of 
  reviews. The more description and evaluation and the broader the range 
  of reviewers and opinions the better, especially when they is 
  qualified ("I thought the camera work was very professional, 
  but I found myself skipping quickly through what seemed a dull 
  message. If you are looking for a short, punchy and exciting piece, 
  look elsewhere") But I feel quite strongly that attempting to 
  assign a single universal number to anything is deluding 

Re: [videoblogging] Vlog Santa and The Ethiopians

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Chuck, mnstories looks great. However, your 
description of that demonstration being "of Carter" was a bit misleading. 
They were just demonstrating to get Carter's attention and help.

Your vlog Santa project sounds most 
interesting. One idea I would like to work on (feel free to steal it) 
would be to (1) go to a "Santa School" and vlog about how Santa's are taught; 
(2) follow a poor marginable Santa who is doing this because he needs the money 
and see how he reacts to rich kids demanding fancy toys and/or poor kids asking 
for things their parents couldn't afford, etc.; or (3) vlog Santas talking about 
the events of their day as they change out of their costumes or sit around 
drinking coffee, etc.

I really like the idea of a vlog called "Santa 
Talk". That would be so fascinating.

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chuck Olsen 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:48 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Vlog Santa and 
  The Ethiopians
  Hello friends,Sorry I've been largely absent from 
  this group for so long.I miss you guys! Just too dang busy to keep up, but 
  I'mreading + watching + thinking secret thoughts.FUN VLOG 
  EXPERIEMNT: VLOG SANTA!Every friday on Minnesota Stories. Do you have a 
  question forvlog Santa? What's on your holiday wish list? Ask Vlog 
  Santa anything,because he knows everything. Or so he thinks.Video 
  queries preferred, or just email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Yay Vlog 
  Santa!??. . .Unrelated thing about MN Stories - I've always 
  wanted it to be placewhere under-represented people could have their voice 
  heard a littlelouder. I was really happy to feature this video by an 
  Ethiopian vlogworkshop student of mine - protesting at Jimmy Carter's 
  recent visit:http://www.mnstories.com/archives/2005/11/ethiopians_prot.htmlVlog 
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[videoblogging] adding RSS feeds

2005-11-27 Thread Antonio
Does anyone know a script, code or program to add a feed from another  
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Re: [videoblogging] Arabs Terrorize Faggots

2005-11-27 Thread Jay dedman
 I think of myself as a journalist.  Rarely, do  I do a vlog or story about an 
 event I am personally and socially involved  in.  I made an exception for my 
 latest episode:
 http://blip.tv/file/get/RandolfeWicker-ARABSTERRORIZEFAGGOTS997.mov

i see youre going into the archives...video from 1991...cool.
the title to this vlog is pretty sensationalthe guy just seemed
like an asshole...being Arab didnt have much to do with it.

 It is a little over six minutes long.  I  wonder if it would have been wiser 
 to make two three-minute vlogs?  I just  happened to have the camera on and 
 filming when the violence and threats  flared.  It still leaves me shaking.

i think youre th best judge of time.
news keeps most stories to under 2 minutes long...so they can just
touch on the high-points.
longer pieces let you do more documentary style pices where i get to
know who's in involved.

i always watch my own work..and if i get bored...i start cutting.

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Re: [videoblogging] Shameless Plug

2005-11-27 Thread Jay dedman
 I just made a new video and I would like to invite all and sundry to see it, 
 It has been
 languishing in at Blip.tv since this morning and although it's comedy itself, 
 hardly anyone
 has glimpsed it.  Maybe the humour is not to the American taste, I dunno, but 
 for those of
 you who are interested, check it out now, please.

 http://www.blip.tv/file/5335
 http://www.dailymotion.com/pjkproductions/video/10764


its funny...people in the US bought pet rocks in the 70's.
so reality is weirder than our imaginations.
next time, just link to the permalink to your videoblog...i always
like to see the context in which it was posted.
i was also hoping to find out why this britsh guyn is living in france.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Markus Sandy






great in theory perhaps, but what about practice?

take amazon for example:

the products are rated
the reviewers are rated
the ratings are rated!
the shippers are rated

did i leave anything out =)

i have a degree in mathematics, but i still don't want to have to solve
multi-variable word problems every time I buy something

or worse, every time I want to watch a videoblog

sometimes this is what turns "one-click" solutions into multi-page
interviews asking you if you were satisfied with the customer
satisfaction survey.

perhaps this is all a holy grail and that it will always be necessary
for individuals to sift the wheat from the chaff

perhaps that is actually part of the process of videoblogging that
steve garfield has put forth: watch, learn, create, teach





Randolfe Wicker wrote:

  
  
  
  Very good point, Josh. People are
said to "vote with their feet". Would we say that viewers on the
Internet vote with their "mice" :)
  
  Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
  
  Videographer, Writer, Activist
Advisor: The Immortality Institute
Hoboken, NJ
  http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
201-656-3280
  
  
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Joshua
Kinberg 
To:
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com

Sent:
Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject:
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for


Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let other
users
know that you found the review helpful or not. This type of feedback
promotes trust in the system. People who are considered good reviewers
rise to the top of the reviews.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 It is not the actual "star rating" that is revealing on Amazon.
It is the
 text accompanying the rating. Someone might give a book a
"one-star" rating
 and in writing about the book say something like "exposes like
this one on
 the high rate of theft in Columbia do a disservice to the country."

 So, if you are planning to take a trip to Columbia, you would take
that
 "One-star" rating as a good reason to buy the book so as to be
aware of the
 dangers lurking for tourists.


 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

 Videographer, Writer, Activist
 Advisor: The Immortality Institute
 Hoboken, NJ
 http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
 201-656-3280



 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Carver
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  Sorry to say that I disagree with you. Star ratings are
actually
  very important and should be allowed. That is especially
true when
  the star ratings are accompanied by text critiques.
  I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the
"anointed few".

 To me the point is more fundamental. A "star system" or any other
form
 of single rating is at best _evaluative_ without being
_informative_.
 In most cases it's ao much worse as to be effectively useless of
even
 deceptive.

 The problem is fundamentally this: the author of the rating has to
 choose one single "axis" on which to rate a piece. But this axis is
 probably not the one that any given reader wants to know. Worst of
 all, most reviewers don't even make clear _what_ axis they assumed
was
 most significant.

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, Eric Rice wrote:
  For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I
want
  to look at his personal list of favorites, see how he ranks
them. If
  I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his rankings
really
  really matter. To *me*.

 So we have Eric looking for ratings on "coolness". (whatever that
 means).

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 3:16:11 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  I have been talking about the need for people to direct us to
really
  important vlogs. Let me take a stab at doing this here. I
hope you
  will indulge me and look at these two links.

 Randolfe implies some sort of rating on "importance". (whatever
that
 means).

 In the past I've read messages on this list that seemed to prefer
 rating on "quality", "brevity", "most personal", "most
professional",
 "best editing", "most local", "most entertaining" and as many other
 hard-to-define things as you can think of.

 Take a look at the "star" ratings on Amazon (for example) and see
if
 you can guess what aspect the authors of the ratings were
considering.

 Now look at how the ratings polarize. "Good" ratings vie with each
 other to get better. Bad ones get worse. Few are left in the
middle.

 It's a natural process. Nobody has seen or read everything. So when
 you encounter something you like, you give it a good rating. Then,
a
 bit later, you encounter something you like a bit better, or your
 opinions change, so you give another item a higher rating. Then
guess
 what, a bit later you find something you like even more. So you
have
 to give that an even better rating.

Re: [videoblogging] adding RSS feeds

2005-11-27 Thread Markus Sandy
http://www.bigbold.com/rssdigest/


Antonio wrote:

Does anyone know a script, code or program to add a feed from another  
site to your site?




 
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[videoblogging] .m4v vs .mov (iPod test)

2005-11-27 Thread civanyi
Hello ya'll.  I just posted the following question to Michael Verdi,
and thought I'd open it up to the forum:

I made a DV movie and exported a self-contained quicktime version with
all the original DV settings, except that I changed the size to
640x480.  I opened it up in QT Pro, and exported as a MOVIE to iPOD
(320x240).  I ended up with the .m4v.  But I changed the extension
from .m4v to .mov. -- simply changing the number 4 to the letter 0,
kind of a longwinded approach but I am curios if it will play on the iPod?

Could you or anyone please check this .mov to see it it plays on the iPod?

http://55broad.video.blip.tv/Civanyi-MissingPlacesH264iPodVersion908.mov

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Re: [videoblogging] adding RSS feeds

2005-11-27 Thread Markus Sandy






oops, they have a new url

http://www.feeddigest.com/


Markus Sandy wrote:

  http://www.bigbold.com/rssdigest/


Antonio wrote:

  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Michael Sullivan



yep... i have this feature on vlogdir, partially activated. there are 'vlogmarks' (personal favorites),,, and i could make these publically viewable, just have not added that to the interface yet. by next week, it should be... along with other human filter/revlog features.
since there is also a ratings system, the two are by default associated.also, anyone can leave comments/reviews since May on vlogdir... just a basic feature... could be enhanced with more input fields (as mefeedia has done) if i thought it would be used... but honestly, i feel most people just want to watch/subscribe/download/leave comments on the vlog, not nec add a review on the source directory... but that may very well change as the culture of consuming video evolves and the community/trust environments are matured. 
sullOn 11/27/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like this idea.It's almost like the reviews, but shorter andeasier for me as a user to indicate that I liked a feed (instead oftyping up a review)Reviews are still great and very helpful.On 11/27/05, Eric Rice 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:One of the things I pinged the good folks about Podcast Pickle about was ratings based ona USER's favorite vlogs. While popularity and star systems have their place
 in certain cases,what's most important to me is how my favorites rank other vlogs.For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want to look at his personal
list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then hisrankings really really matter. To *me*.Two cents.ER
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Absolutely. The trick is in presenting a user interface such that its
easily understandable and usable, even though the underlying process
is complex.

In general, Amazon works pretty well. I am able to find stuff there
and ascertin whether I want to buy it. There are a number of ways for
me to analyze the item in order to make my purchase decision. There
are also suggestions that help me compare things or determine if there
might be another product I am interested in. Overall, it works fairly
well and people seem to understand it. Using stars as ratings, or
thumbs up/thumbs down, seems to be the general practice. There is also
the implicit data gathered simply from user interaction and usage
habits, i.e. what have you bought? what have you viewed? how long did
you view something? etc... this data can be very useful.

As to Randy's comment... user's do not vote so much with their mice as
they do simply with their attention this attention may be provided
explicitly in the form of feedback, ratings, reviews, tags, whatever,
or implicitly simply through their interactions with the system.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  great in theory perhaps, but what about practice?

  take amazon for example:

  the products are rated
  the reviewers are rated
  the ratings are rated!
  the shippers are rated

  did i leave anything out =)

  i have a degree in mathematics, but i still don't want to have to solve
 multi-variable word problems every time I buy something

  or worse, every time I want to watch a videoblog

  sometimes this is what turns one-click solutions into multi-page
 interviews asking you if you were satisfied with the customer satisfaction
 survey.

  perhaps this is all a holy grail and that it will always be necessary for
 individuals to sift the wheat from the chaff

  perhaps that is actually part of the process of videoblogging that steve
 garfield has put forth: watch, learn, create, teach





  Randolfe Wicker wrote:

 Very good point, Josh.  People are said to vote with their feet.  Would we
 say that viewers on the Internet vote with their mice :)

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 Videographer, Writer, Activist
  Advisor: The Immortality Institute
  Hoboken, NJ
  http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
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 - Original Message -
 From: Joshua Kinberg
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

  Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let other users
  know that you found the review helpful or not. This type of feedback
  promotes trust in the system. People who are considered good reviewers
  rise to the top of the reviews.

  -Josh


  On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It is not the actual star rating that is revealing on Amazon.  It is
 the
   text accompanying the rating.  Someone might give a book a one-star
 rating
   and in writing about the book say something like exposes like this one
 on
   the high rate of theft in Columbia do a disservice to the country.
  
   So, if you are planning to take a trip to Columbia, you would take that
   One-star rating as a good reason to buy the book so as to be aware of
 the
   dangers lurking for tourists.
  
  
   Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
  
   Videographer, Writer, Activist
   Advisor: The Immortality Institute
   Hoboken, NJ
   http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
   201-656-3280
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Frank Carver
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  
   Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:22 AM
   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for
  
   Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
Sorry to say that I disagree with you.  Star ratings are actually
very important and should be allowed.  That is especially true when
the star ratings are accompanied by text critiques.
I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the anointed few.
  
   To me the point is more fundamental. A star system or any other form
   of single rating is at best _evaluative_ without being _informative_.
   In most cases it's ao much worse as to be effectively useless of even
   deceptive.
  
   The problem is fundamentally this: the author of the rating has to
   choose one single axis on which to rate a piece. But this axis is
   probably not the one that any given reader wants to know. Worst of
   all, most reviewers don't even make clear _what_ axis they assumed was
   most significant.
  
   Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, Eric Rice wrote:
For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want
to look at his personal list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If
I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his rankings really
really matter. To *me*.
  
   So we have Eric looking for ratings on coolness. (whatever that
   means).
  
   Sunday, 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Jay dedman
  perhaps this is all a holy grail and that it will always be necessary for
 individuals to sift the wheat from the chaff
  perhaps that is actually part of the process of videoblogging that steve
 garfield has put forth: watch, learn, create, teach

agreed.
in the end, there is no way to have a computer tell you what you will like.
it can only suggest.
the human element is the most important.
building tools let you see what your friends are watching.
being able to give people repuations so you can judge their choices.

but bottom line:
to know whats good means you must spend time with videolbogs...listen
to people...and see whats up.
no pill to pop here.

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Re: [videoblogging] Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Michael Sullivan



you're right, it doesnt. but you also know for some weeks now that I have been working on efforts to add filter features. your response here is off-topic, as I was just pointing out the numerical vlog names appear on vlogdir, where the gripe was that they do not, generally. appear in directories. 
so anyways, many of us understand the need for filtering... its not a new topic. everyone is working on various approaches to this. if you want to make a vlogdigest site, terrific, please do so. what are you waiting for? ;-)
sullOn 11/26/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Michael, I like the work you are doing but I 
haven't found Vlogdir really fulfills the need I am talking about. It 
could but it doesn't--at least at this time.

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  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Michael 
  Sullivan 
  To: 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:54 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Spirit can 
  not be spoken for
  actually, on vlogdir, characters and numericals show up first 
  when browsing the directory there is a menu item on right of main page 
  browse directory. 24x7 is the 5th one listed =)sull
  On 11/26/05, robert 
  a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Heh. 
If you have a name that begins with a numeric (i.e., 29 fragiledays or 
24x7), some of the directories don't have links.For example, 
mefeedia put links for A through Z but no 0-9. Go figure.Guess we'll 
have to wait until someone figures out we exist and creates a more 
accurate directory, until 
then...cheersr--URL: http://r.24x7.com Deconstructing the 
status quo, collaborativelyOn Nov 26, 2005, at 3:15 AM, 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:  On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:03:40 
+0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: I think vlogging can be greatly impacted through 
directories.That is  why we as a community should 
work to set up an open directory that will become the accepted 
norm.Otherwise, others will set up slanted and 
manipulated and even closed directories.  vlogdir.com 
mefeedia.com and soon a fireant directory. 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Michael Sullivan



True, Markus.Do systems like what amazon use have value? yes. how much value? i have no clue... I rarely pay attention to it when making purchases. I read a few reviews from both ends of the positive meter.. and move on.
gotta find a balance and not hyper-geek it all... or at least if you do, the user is not bombarded with it and instead would need to drill into adding more 'fedback' less is more and all that. i beleive in providing several filter mechanisms, but 
there is a limit to peoples willingness to participate in this stuff, i think.sullOn 11/27/05, Markus Sandy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  




great in theory perhaps, but what about practice?

take amazon for example:

the products are rated
the reviewers are rated
the ratings are rated!
the shippers are rated

did i leave anything out =)

i have a degree in mathematics, but i still don't want to have to solve
multi-variable word problems every time I buy something

or worse, every time I want to watch a videoblog

sometimes this is what turns one-click solutions into multi-page
interviews asking you if you were satisfied with the customer
satisfaction survey.

perhaps this is all a holy grail and that it will always be necessary
for individuals to sift the wheat from the chaff

perhaps that is actually part of the process of videoblogging that
steve garfield has put forth: watch, learn, create, teach





Randolfe Wicker wrote:

  
  
  
  Very good point, Josh. People are
said to vote with their feet. Would we say that viewers on the
Internet vote with their mice :)
  
  Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
  
  Videographer, Writer, Activist
Advisor: The Immortality Institute
Hoboken, NJ
  http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
201-656-3280
  
  
  
-
Original Message - 


From:
Joshua
Kinberg 
To:
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com

Sent:
Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject:
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for


Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let other
users
know that you found the review helpful or not. This type of feedback
promotes trust in the system. People who are considered good reviewers
rise to the top of the reviews.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 It is not the actual star rating that is revealing on Amazon.
It is the
 text accompanying the rating. Someone might give a book a
one-star rating
 and in writing about the book say something like exposes like
this one on
 the high rate of theft in Columbia do a disservice to the country.

 So, if you are planning to take a trip to Columbia, you would take
that
 One-star rating as a good reason to buy the book so as to be
aware of the
 dangers lurking for tourists.


 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

 Videographer, Writer, Activist
 Advisor: The Immortality Institute
 Hoboken, NJ
 http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
 201-656-3280



 - Original Message -
 From: Frank Carver
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  Sorry to say that I disagree with you. Star ratings are
actually
  very important and should be allowed. That is especially
true when
  the star ratings are accompanied by text critiques.
  I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the
anointed few.

 To me the point is more fundamental. A star system or any other
form
 of single rating is at best _evaluative_ without being
_informative_.
 In most cases it's ao much worse as to be effectively useless of
even
 deceptive.

 The problem is fundamentally this: the author of the rating has to
 choose one single axis on which to rate a piece. But this axis is
 probably not the one that any given reader wants to know. Worst of
 all, most reviewers don't even make clear _what_ axis they assumed
was
 most significant.

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, Eric Rice wrote:
  For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I
want
  to look at his personal list of favorites, see how he ranks
them. If
  I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his rankings
really
  really matter. To *me*.

 So we have Eric looking for ratings on coolness. (whatever that
 means).

 Sunday, November 27, 2005, 3:16:11 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  I have been talking about the need for people to direct us to
really
  important vlogs. Let me take a stab at doing this here. I
hope you
  will indulge me and look at these two links.

 Randolfe implies some sort of rating on importance. (whatever
that
 means).

 In the past I've read messages on this list that seemed to prefer
 rating on quality, brevity, most personal, most
professional,
 best editing, most local, most entertaining and as many other
 hard-to-define things as you can think of.

 Take a look at the star ratings on Amazon (for example) and see
if
 you can guess what 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
This is a good point... these systems must grow.
None of this stuff matters much if you don't have a community of active users.
Otherwise its like an empty Forum, which is sort of sad.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  True, Markus.

 Do systems like what amazon use have value? yes.  how much value? i have no
 clue... I rarely pay attention to it when making purchases.  I read a few
 reviews from both ends of the positive meter.. and move on.

 gotta find a balance and not hyper-geek it all... or at least if you do, the
 user is not bombarded with it and instead would need to drill into adding
 more 'fedback'  less is more and all that.  i beleive in providing several
 filter mechanisms, but there is a limit to peoples willingness to
 participate in this stuff, i think.

 sull


 On 11/27/05, Markus Sandy  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  great in theory perhaps, but what about practice?
 
  take amazon for example:
 
  the products are rated
  the reviewers are rated
  the ratings are rated!
  the shippers are rated
 
  did i leave anything out =)
 
  i have a degree in mathematics, but i still don't want to have to solve
 multi-variable word problems every time I buy something
 
  or worse, every time I want to watch a videoblog
 
  sometimes this is what turns one-click solutions into multi-page
 interviews asking you if you were satisfied with the customer satisfaction
 survey.
 
  perhaps this is all a holy grail and that it will always be necessary for
 individuals to sift the wheat from the chaff
 
  perhaps that is actually part of the process of videoblogging that steve
 garfield has put forth: watch, learn, create, teach
 
 
 
 
 
  Randolfe Wicker wrote:
 
  Very good point, Josh.  People are said to vote with their feet.  Would
 we say that viewers on the Internet vote with their mice :)
 
  Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
 
  Videographer, Writer, Activist
  Advisor: The Immortality Institute
  Hoboken, NJ
  http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
  201-656-3280
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Joshua Kinberg
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for
 
  Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let other users
  know that you found the review helpful or not. This type of feedback
  promotes trust in the system. People who are considered good reviewers
  rise to the top of the reviews.
 
  -Josh
 
 
  On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It is not the actual star rating that is revealing on Amazon.  It is
 the
   text accompanying the rating.  Someone might give a book a one-star
 rating
   and in writing about the book say something like exposes like this one
 on
   the high rate of theft in Columbia do a disservice to the country.
  
   So, if you are planning to take a trip to Columbia, you would take that
   One-star rating as a good reason to buy the book so as to be aware of
 the
   dangers lurking for tourists.
  
  
   Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
  
   Videographer, Writer, Activist
   Advisor: The Immortality Institute
   Hoboken, NJ
   http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
   201-656-3280
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Frank Carver
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  
   Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:22 AM
   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for
  
   Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
Sorry to say that I disagree with you.  Star ratings are actually
very important and should be allowed.  That is especially true when
the star ratings are accompanied by text critiques.
I trust the judgment of many over the opinions of the anointed few.
  
   To me the point is more fundamental. A star system or any other form
   of single rating is at best _evaluative_ without being _informative_.
   In most cases it's ao much worse as to be effectively useless of even
   deceptive.
  
   The problem is fundamentally this: the author of the rating has to
   choose one single axis on which to rate a piece. But this axis is
   probably not the one that any given reader wants to know. Worst of
   all, most reviewers don't even make clear _what_ axis they assumed was
   most significant.
  
   Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:09:32 AM, Eric Rice wrote:
For example, what does Peter think is cool? I want to know. I want
to look at his personal list of favorites, see how he ranks them. If
I'm giving trust to Peter as a filter, then his rankings really
really matter. To *me*.
  
   So we have Eric looking for ratings on coolness. (whatever that
   means).
  
   Sunday, November 27, 2005, 3:16:11 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
I have been talking about the need for people to direct us to really
important vlogs. Let me take a stab at doing this here. I hope you
will indulge me and look at these two links.
  
   Randolfe 

[videoblogging] Re: Initial iPod Compatibility Tests

2005-11-27 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Ivanyi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Michael:
 
 I made a DV movie and exported a self-contained quicktime version
with all
 the original DV settings, except for the size I set to 640 x 480.  I
opened
 it up in QT Pro, and exported as a MOVIE to iPOD (320x240).  I ended
up with
 the .m4v.  But I changed the extension from .m4v to .mov. -- simply
changing
 the number 4 to the letter 0, kind of a longwinded approach but I am
curios
 if it will play on the iPod?
 
 Could you or anyone please check this .mov to see it it plays on the
iPod?
 
 http://55broad.video.blip.tv/Civanyi-MissingPlacesH264iPodVersion908.mov
 
 chris @
 
 www.cafesiena.blogspot.com


I tried to get it to load in quicktime 7, but quicktime said it wasn't
an understood format.  I can't get it to go into iTunes as .mov, it
will come in as .m4v.  There may be something in the file header that
specifies it to be m4v.

  -- Enric





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[videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem with tracking what people watch is 'clickers'...what if
I load a
 clip, I don't like it so I don't finish...does that get ear-marked
that I
 watched it and therefore it's popularity goes up by one?
 
 I think feedback that a user consciously adds is more valuable than
tracking
 usage.
 
 But that's just my 2 cents.

But then behavior is more indicative of honesty than speech.  That
shows up in polling questions.

  -- Enric

 
 On 11/27/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  As to Randy's comment... user's do not vote so much with their mice as
  they do simply with their attention this attention may be provided
  explicitly in the form of feedback, ratings, reviews, tags, whatever,
  or implicitly simply through their interactions with the system.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
This is true. I think you have to give explicit feedback more weight
than implicit feedback.
But implicit feedback is better than a blackhole of nothingness...
especially when a system is dependent on user feedback.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The problem with tracking what people watch is 'clickers'...what if
 I load a
  clip, I don't like it so I don't finish...does that get ear-marked
 that I
  watched it and therefore it's popularity goes up by one?
 
  I think feedback that a user consciously adds is more valuable than
 tracking
  usage.
 
  But that's just my 2 cents.

 But then behavior is more indicative of honesty than speech.  That
 shows up in polling questions.

   -- Enric

 
  On 11/27/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   As to Randy's comment... user's do not vote so much with their mice as
   they do simply with their attention this attention may be provided
   explicitly in the form of feedback, ratings, reviews, tags, whatever,
   or implicitly simply through their interactions with the system.
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Devlon



True, people often do and say contrary things. My point is that
if a tracking method of popularity measurement is used, the system
needs to be sophisticated enough to determine if a user actually
watched the whole thing.On 11/27/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem with tracking what people watch is 'clickers'...what if
I load a
 clip, I don't like it so I don't finish...does that get ear-marked
that I
 watched it and therefore it's popularity goes up by one?
 
 I think feedback that a user consciously adds is more valuable than
tracking
 usage.
 
 But that's just my 2 cents.

But then behavior is more indicative of honesty than speech. That
shows up in polling questions.

 -- Enric

 
 On 11/27/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  As to Randy's comment... user's do not vote so much with their mice as
  they do simply with their attention this attention may be provided
  explicitly in the form of feedback, ratings, reviews, tags, whatever,
  or implicitly simply through their interactions with the system.
 
  -Josh
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 True, people often do and say contrary things.  My point is that if a
 tracking method of popularity measurement is used, the system needs
to be
 sophisticated enough to determine if a user actually watched the whole
 thing.
 

Good point.  That would actually be quite a useful feature.  And it
should be doable.  However once the film is cached on the client
system, multiple views probably can't easily be tracked. 

  -- Enric

 On 11/27/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   The problem with tracking what people watch is 'clickers'...what if
  I load a
   clip, I don't like it so I don't finish...does that get ear-marked
  that I
   watched it and therefore it's popularity goes up by one?
  
   I think feedback that a user consciously adds is more valuable than
  tracking
   usage.
  
   But that's just my 2 cents.
 
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[videoblogging] my mom is a videoblogger!

2005-11-27 Thread ryanne hodson
my mom is videoblogging now!
check out her video, leave a comment, subscribe!
she's a natural born videoblogger

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[videoblogging] Re: XP2 Firewire-Video Help Needed

2005-11-27 Thread Gena
Thanks Kirk, I have been thinking about transitioning to a Xandros
distribution for a long time. I need something that will let me get up
to speed quickly and allow me to videoblog with my existing equipment.
I'll look into Ubuntu.

I have done everything and then some to get it to work. I have an old
Win98 and it sees the firewire drive  camera just fine, without
drivers! It is really an old machine so I can't work with it but the
devices and cables are okay.

I think it is a problem with the firewall or something program that is
preventing me from accessing the drive. I have spent the morning
plowing through M$ knowledgebase and I am beyong angry at this point.
I went out and bought a new card - same old story. Nothing but air.

Mac or Linux I am open to the possible.

Gena  http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com

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 I have fixed non responsive problems in xp by uninstalling my device
and then re installing it. My wireless link did this a couple of times
and then decided to give me no more problems. 

   I hear the Ubuntu distro of Linux is worth a peek. Linux usually
takes tweaking but reports are Ubuntu works just as it configures
itself. The reviewer said it recognized hardware better than his copy
of xp.
   If you have a high speed connection you can download it over the net.

   Kirk
 

   From: Gena 
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:46 PM
   Subject: [videoblogging] XP2 Firewire-Video Help Needed
   
 
 I'm about to shoot this $#%#^! thing!. I have been fight Windows XP
 since 6am. I bought a Panasonic GV19 camcorder. I have a SB Audigy
 sound card that has a firewire port. I know it worked because I used
 it with a firewire drive. So here is the problem.
 
 I hooked up my camcorder and nothing, zip, zilch and bupkis. Nothing
 in the listed drives, no tone, no balloon, nothing. I check the device
 driver, it says the card is okay, functioning normally.
 
 I bought a new Belkin cable. $27 Nothing. 
 I hooked up the firewire drive with the original cable. I can see the
 light on the FW Hard drive but XP don't see blip. I know this drive
 works. However, I haven't used it since I upgraded to XP2. 
 
 I open up the computer make sure that the card is secure. It is. 
 I go to Panasonic, they say I don't need a driver, XP should see it
as soon as I plug it in.
 
 I go to M$ - Windows XP2 has issues with firewire cards. Performance
 of 1394 devices may decrease after you install Windows XP2 Nobody
 fucking told me (or anybody else about it) I download the patch. Shut
the computer on and off. Nothing.
 
 I swing over to Google Groups and find the MVP guru who does have
 helpful info on his site http://www.myvideoproblems.com I try
 everything that I can.  Still no go.
 
 I don't have the cash to spring for a new 1394 card until the end of
 next week. Is there anything else I can do to fix this M$ caused
 defect. Because if I buy the card and it still doesn't work I will be
 quarter past enraged. Is there a specific card I should get/not get?
 
 P.S. If I could I would swing over to Mac in a heartbeat but I don't
 have that kind of money. I have to deal with what I have.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Thumbnail archive with videos only?

2005-11-27 Thread Jen Simmons
Peter, is there anyway to refresh what mefeedia sees? Ie: to get it to clear out it's database and re-look through all the entries in a videblog to find files, links and make new thumbnails??

Or any way to tell it to go get a thumbnail??

It seems quite common that mefeedia misses a movie + never makes the thumbnail for it. And I ran into trouble when I changed a post and mefeedia was stuck on the first version (which I'd deleted) and wouldn't take in the new information about the second version

is there a way to 'refresh' what mefeedia knows??
jen



 Of course, this is a minor problem compared to the fact that it has
 *still* not showing thumbs for almost half my videos (even some fairly 
 recent ones).


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 >to my sidebar with help from the freevlog tutorial and I realised
 >something: it's going to create thumbs for my text posts as well,
 >right? This is sort of opposite of what I was trying to accomplish.
 >Short of creating two seperate feeds/blogs (one for text posts  one
 >for video) is there any way around this?
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[videoblogging] Ask A Ninja: Question #1, Ninja-Mart Store

2005-11-27 Thread digitalfilmmaker



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You've got questions, ninjas got answers.

A ninja answers Matt's questions about when and where ninjas get their uniforms.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Frank Carver
Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:56:25 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
 It is not the actual star rating that is revealing on Amazon.
 It is the text accompanying the rating.  Someone might give a book a
 one-star rating and in writing about the book say something like
 exposes like this one on the high rate of theft in Columbia do a
 disservice to the country.

 So, if you are planning to take a trip to Columbia, you would
 take that One-star rating as a good reason to buy the book so as
 to be aware of the dangers lurking for tourists.

But that's my point. If the usefulness of the star rating of a book,
video, gadget or whatever ranges from ignorable to deceptive, why
bother with it at all? If there were just a bundle of reviews, maybe
with tags to group/sort by, wouldn't that be at least equally
effective?

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 Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let other users
 know that you found the review helpful or not. This type of feedback
 promotes trust in the system. People who are considered good reviewers
 rise to the top of the reviews.

This, on the other hand is a much more effective use of a rating system. The
implied axis of the rating is the accuracy of the review. Both the
person assigning the rating and the person reading it have similar
expectations.


I'm still thinking about what I might consider an ideal rating system.
At the moment, I think it might be something akin to tagging (so you
can mark the axis of a rating with an arbitrrary keyword/phrase) and
probably be _relative_ rather than _absolute_. Each reviewer should be
able to add as many of these ratings as they feel the item needs.

So I would hope to be able to say stuff like this video is funnier
than that one, or the sound quality was worse than that other one.
in some kind of machine-readable format. This should allow review
authors to say exactly what they mean, and also allow review readers
to sort/group by the factors they are actually interested in.

Thoughts?

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Re: [videoblogging] Arabs Terrorize Faggots

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





The guy was definitely an Arab. It was the 
cultural thing about a woman giving him the finger that really tipped him over 
the edge.

This was one of those special events in my 
life. I don't have many videos that are so exciting except for some stuff 
from 1971.


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  Terrorize Faggots"
   I think of myself as a journalist. Rarely, 
  do I do a vlog or story about an event I am personally and socially 
  involved in. I made an exception for my latest episode: http://blip.tv/file/get/RandolfeWicker-ARABSTERRORIZEFAGGOTS997.movi 
  see youre going into the archives...video from 1991...cool.the title to 
  this vlog is pretty sensationalthe guy just seemedlike an 
  asshole...being Arab didnt have much to do with it. It is a little 
  over six minutes long. I wonder if it would have been wiser to 
  make two three-minute vlogs? I just happened to have the camera on 
  and filming when the violence and threats flared. It still leaves 
  me shaking.i think youre th best judge of time.news keeps most 
  stories to under 2 minutes long...so they can justtouch on the 
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Re: [videoblogging] Fireant issue.

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Hey Michael,

You're almost there. Check out http://FreeVlog.org and go to step #6.
You need to transform your Atom feed to RSS format.
You can do this at FeedBurner by enabling your feed for podcasting.

Hope this helps,
Josh

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 posted one video. But when I use Fireant to verify if everything is ok
 with my feed, I cannot download the video I posted, but I only see the
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[videoblogging] Name dog

2005-11-27 Thread Loiez D.
Hi all,

With my son Pierre-Thomas (14 years old)
  we are beginning the first dog's vlog

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/10844


We are looking for a name beginning by a for this dog ( Apple,  
Arzhel, Andrew, Aziz)
( we must find a name monday)

May be this dog could be the mascot of vlogging in France



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Regards

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Re: [videoblogging] Name dog

2005-11-27 Thread Joan Khoo



What about Anjing?
It means dog in Malay or Indonesian. 
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Re: [videoblogging] Name dog

2005-11-27 Thread Ted Tagami



Cute! First french vlogger mascot? I vote for Alpha!On 11/27/05, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all,

With my son Pierre-Thomas (14 years old)
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/10844


We are looking for a name beginning by a for this dog ( Apple, 
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May be this dog could be the mascot of vlogging in France



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[videoblogging] help! want to change .mov to something else.

2005-11-27 Thread Crystal
Okay I am working with Windows XP and I bought a Kodak easyshare 
camara that makes movies in QuickTime (.mov) Which of course means, 
I can't use Windows Movie Maker to edit my films...
I saw a link I think on freevlog.com about using AVIDFREEDV..but I'm 
having serious issues with this program..It keeps on telling me 
Decomp buffer or something like that..and then I somehow managed to 
splice all the clips from thanksgiving dinner together only to save 
it and the quality is so poor you can't make out anyone's face. 
QUESTION: is there a way I can turn .mov to something that is 
supported by Windows Movie maker
Any advice would be helpful..but at this point my income sources are 
very limited and I'm tryin to figure something out thats not going 
to cost me anything or at least very little.

Thanks in advance..

a newbie here...
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Re: [videoblogging] Name dog

2005-11-27 Thread Ted Tagami



OH! Here's a traffic magnet: Crosspost this on http://www.dogster.com.
That community would love to share their ideas, I am sure of it. You
could also share the idea of vlogging with the interaction too! 

Hey Rheingold, you think we can do something for Loiez, his son, and a dog-with-no-name?

- TedOn 11/27/05, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Maybe something that say's i'm french and into video something like ALAIN, or ALPHONSE OR ANTOINEPAULOn 27 Nov 2005, at 22:56, Ted Tagami wrote:
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[videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread James A. Donnelly
Senario: What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for your 
camera. You video it, post it, and later that person states that they don't 
like it. It make them look._ whatever.
Of course if you are a decent human being, you will probably take it down. But, 
are you legally required to take it down? Do you need a release form. Some 
people that don't understand video blogging in public might consider this a 
form of infringment on their privacy, stalking whatever...
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Re: [videoblogging] help! want to change .mov to something else.

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Quicktime Pro is $30.
Definitely worth it.
You can convert mov to something else... DV, AVI, etc. that can be
handled by Movie Maker.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Crystal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay I am working with Windows XP and I bought a Kodak easyshare
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 I saw a link I think on freevlog.com about using AVIDFREEDV..but I'm
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 splice all the clips from thanksgiving dinner together only to save
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 QUESTION: is there a way I can turn .mov to something that is
 supported by Windows Movie maker
 Any advice would be helpful..but at this point my income sources are
 very limited and I'm tryin to figure something out thats not going
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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread Joan Khoo



Hmm...that is rather tricky.

While you are allowed to film in a public place (where this is not an
invasion of privacy), you are filming a particular person and that does
require permission. 

On the same token, paparazzis take celebrity pictures all the time and
distribute it freely ( I suspect without permission but I'm not sure). 
I'm not very helpful am I?

Joan
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Senario:
What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for your
camera. You video it, post it, and later that person states that they
don't like it. It make them look._ whatever.Of course if you
are a decent human being, you will probably take it down. But, are you
legally required to take it down? Do you need a release form. Some
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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread Julian Doncaster
--- James A. Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Senario: What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for your 
camera. You video
it, post it, and later that person states that they don't like it. It make 
them look._
whatever.

The best way to do this is to video them before or after the performance giving 
you permission to
use it in your VLOG.

Apart from that you are taking your risks with whatever the laws are in your 
locality. Laws may or
may not relate to Vlogging children, copyright performances, personal privacy, 
image rights (for
celebrities etc.) and government installations, or if you cause a riot.

If you are vlogging a performance on a public street then I think you should be 
OK, and most
street artists would welcome the exposure. You have the option of turning it 
into a review,
comment or report, in which case you would be protected by freedom of speech 
laws.

Make sure you credit any performances, and tell people how to get in touch with 
the artist, and
give the proper appreciation to the artists efforts, even if you don't like it.

If you are in the USA applicable laws may be rather random depending on the 
State; in Europe ditto
on the Country.

Some people that don't understand video blogging in public might consider this 
a form of
infringment on their privacy, stalking whatever...your thoughtsI know 
grayline,
fineline...etc.

What a wonderful learning opportunity for them and a teaching/PR opportunity 
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Newbie and first question: 3GP format - Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group

2005-11-27 Thread Martina Schubert
Dear Jay,

Thank you very much for the nice welcome.

 We've had a lot of new people join in the last month.
 I want to first extend a welcome to you.

I am one of the new members, but still in the phase of experimenting, 
i.e. I still do not have a really working vlog. But as an introduction 
to this group I made this vlog entry here:

http://maxie-online.blogspot.com

Well, one can see here is a real beginner  ... :-) I have watched many 
of the videos that were posted in this group and see that the 
standards are very high. (Thank you all for sharing!)

My question, of which I hope it is not too silly: At the moment I am 
trying and learning with what I have. (I know, I should have a real 
videocam, somewhen I will.) Anyway, I am not at all satisfied at the 
quality of the videos from my digital camera - a Fuji A 201 - and so I 
wanted to use the videos shot with my mobile (Motorola E1000), but they 
are in mobile format (3GP). I did not find anything via Google, so I am 
asking here: Is there any possibility to use 3GP files also for a web 
videolog? What program could I use to convert them into one of the usual 
web formats (SWF, WMV, MOV)? Is that possible at all?

Kind regards from Berlin (Germany)
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[videoblogging] videblogging in college courses

2005-11-27 Thread Jen Simmons
Who out there is teaching videoblogging at a University or College? I'm 
about to finish teaching a class, and am gearing up to teach it again 
-- I'd love to share thoughts with others who've designed a 15-week 
class...
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RE: [videoblogging] Name dog

2005-11-27 Thread Beth Kanter
Title: Message





I 
really like Alpha and very cute dog... it used to be that on the 
Internet, no knew that you were a dog, but with a vlog, you can't run, you can't 
hide ...

  
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  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Paul KnightSent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:10 
  PMTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
  [videoblogging] Name dogMaybe something that say's i'm 
  french and into video something like ALAIN, or ALPHONSE OR ANTOINE
  
  PAUL
  
  On 27 Nov 2005, at 22:56, Ted Tagami wrote:
  Cute! First french vlogger mascot? I vote for 
"Alpha"!
On 11/27/05, Loiez 
D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hi 
  all,With my son Pierre-Thomas (14 years old) we are 
  beginning the first dog's vloghttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/10844We are 
  looking for a name beginning by "a" for this dog ( Apple, 
  Arzhel, Andrew, Aziz)( we must find a name monday)May 
  be this dog could be the mascot of vlogging in 
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[videoblogging] Re: help! want to change .mov to something else.

2005-11-27 Thread Share
hey Crystal, I had this same question and after much searching, I
finally broke down and bought the software from Riverpast:
www.riverpast.com
So far, it works pretty easily, cost was $30.
There are lots of converters out there and this one just seemed pretty
straight forward. I got the video cleaner one, not pro and not lite.
It has enough parameters to make it work alright for my purposes.
Hope that helps!
Oh, if you want to check out other ones, just type mov in to wmv in
google,..it will lead you to plenty of choices!

cheers.
share
a href=http://www.rocknrolltv.net;Rock n Roll TV/a

 QUESTION: is there a way I can turn .mov to something that is 
 supported by Windows Movie maker
 Any advice would be helpful..but at this point my income sources are 
 very limited and I'm tryin to figure something out thats not going 
 to cost me anything or at least very little.
 
 Thanks in advance..
 
 a newbie here...
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[videoblogging] Question about plug adapters UK Vloggers

2005-11-27 Thread Beth Kanter
Hey Folks,

I'm traveling from the US to London in two weeks for the Gloval Voices
Summit and trying to get organize so I can live blog and vlog.   What
type of adaptor do I need to charge up my batteries for my
laptop/camera.

Also, is there a London or UK vloggers group?  

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: help! want to change .mov to something else.

2005-11-27 Thread Joan Khoo



How dense am I?
Thanks Crystal for asking that question. It never occured to me before
that Quicktime Pro could be installed on Windows. Guess I'm running out
to get it.

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[videoblogging] MPEG1 vs. MPEG4

2005-11-27 Thread marykaterobertson
Hello,

I am considering buying a digital camera which shoots in MPEG1.  Until now I've 
been 
shooting on mini-DV, importing into Final Cut, and exporting MPEG4.  If I end 
up shooting 
MPEG1 is it easy to convert to MPEG4 and what sort of image quality can I 
expect?

Am I better off buying a more expensive camera which shoots in MPEG4?

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[videoblogging] New Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread lotzepots30
Hello people all over the world!

I just entered the world of vlogging... And I am very curiuos of what you think 
of my first try-
outs
So please take a look at: http://www.freezeland.blogspot.com/

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[videoblogging] Re: Initial iPod Compatibility Tests

2005-11-27 Thread Steve Watkins
m4v files are mp4 files, not movs. So it is fine to rename a m4v file
to end in .mp4 instead, but dont rename it to .mov

If I rename it to .mp4 then it works on the ipod.

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Ivanyi
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello Michael:
  
  I made a DV movie and exported a self-contained quicktime version
 with all
  the original DV settings, except for the size I set to 640 x 480.  I
 opened
  it up in QT Pro, and exported as a MOVIE to iPOD (320x240).  I ended
 up with
  the .m4v.  But I changed the extension from .m4v to .mov. -- simply
 changing
  the number 4 to the letter 0, kind of a longwinded approach but I am
 curios
  if it will play on the iPod?
  
  Could you or anyone please check this .mov to see it it plays on the
 iPod?
  
 
http://55broad.video.blip.tv/Civanyi-MissingPlacesH264iPodVersion908.mov
  
  chris @
  
  www.cafesiena.blogspot.com
 
 
 I tried to get it to load in quicktime 7, but quicktime said it wasn't
 an understood format.  I can't get it to go into iTunes as .mov, it
 will come in as .m4v.  There may be something in the file header that
 specifies it to be m4v.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah I really like the social aspects of Netflix. Being able to see
what your friends are watching is really useful. That would be a nice
feature in a directory.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My favorite way to find films is Netflix.  Their system looks at
what you
 rent and suggests films that other people like you have enjoyed,
based upon
 your previous rentals and how you've rated them (stars).  I've found
 countless great films very easily this way.
 
 I'm not sure if they have written reviews.  If so, I don't care
about them
 and have never read one.
 
 I assume it' a pretty complicated system, maybe even patented, but
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Re: [videoblogging] Name dog

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Just call your dog "Apple Tiger". That will 
resonate with vloggers everywhere.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Loiez 
  D. 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  ; Pierre Thomas 
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:50 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Name dog
  Hi all,With my son Pierre-Thomas (14 years 
  old) we are beginning the first dog's vloghttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/10844We 
  are looking for a name beginning by "a" for this dog ( Apple, 
  Arzhel, Andrew, Aziz)( we must find a name monday)May be 
  this dog could be the mascot of vlogging in FranceThanks a lot 
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Re: [videoblogging] Digest Number 1375

2005-11-27 Thread Miguel Serradas Duarte

Go Mom! Something to proud of Ryanne.

Miguel.


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Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:21:37 -0500
From: ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: my mom is a videoblogger!

 my mom is videoblogging now!
 check out her video, leave a comment, subscribe!
 she's a natural born videoblogger

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[videoblogging] Re: help! want to change .mov to something else.

2005-11-27 Thread Crystal
I guess i'll have to bite the bullet and go and buy ittryin to hold 
out tho..i want my kids to have an awesome christmasi need to spend 
a lil more money on them...;0
so for now i'll just show lil clips using quicktime;( 
and evnetually I'll be able to put it all together and make a lil 
movie ;D-

-- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How dense am I?
 Thanks Crystal for asking that question. It never occured to me 
before that
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[videoblogging] Re: help! want to change .mov to something else.

2005-11-27 Thread Crystal
oh and btw, My Vlog is at http://crystalvlogs.blogspot.com   ;D







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Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Maybe I misread something. Didn't they say 
they only wanted general audience materials?


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  - Original Message - 
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  Garfield 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the 
  continuing frustration
  Randolfe,I just went to the YouTube website, to see where 
  you formed this impression, and did not see anything about their owning of 
  content.Can you provide a link to a URL that explains their policy on 
  uploaded videos?Thank you,--SteveOn Nov 22, 2005, at 11:48 
  AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  Bev, I have the impression 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Spirit can not be spoken for

2005-11-27 Thread Michael Sullivan



will,http://www.musicplasma.com/ - Wow, that is too cool!Thanks for sharing this!
I'm also curious if anyone doing anything innovative, unique to the videoblogging space interms of marketing and publicity.i am always thinking up new ideas to advance this area. you should start a fresh thread (again?) on this topic to see new thoughts from others on this.
sullOn 11/27/05, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finding interesting content that reasonates with one's own taste is a challenge notexclusive to videoblogging.With the proliferation of new music out there since the homerecording revolution, it is quite a challenge to find new music that isn't mainlined to you
through MTV or corporate radio. You read reviews by reviewers whose judgement youtrust, you sample songs on iTunes, you get tips from your friends.One model I've foundinteresting is music plasma - 
http://www.musicplasma.com/You type an artist and it gives you a graphical constellation of similar artists. I find it quiteuseful when searching out new music in whatever the genre are exploring.In the embryonic development of videoblogging I'm sure innovators will come along to
help organize the overwhelming amount of content.Until then - the best buzz seems tobe word of mouth.I'm also curious if anyone doing anything innovative, unique to the videoblogging space interms of marketing and publicity.Apart from listing in the the various directories - and
link swapping, what are some of the other techniques being used? Or is marketing a dirtyword?Willhttp://www.tiny-tube.comweird and wonderful--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favorite way to find films is Netflix.Their system looks at what you rent and suggests films that other people like you have enjoyed, based upon
 your previous rentals and how you've rated them (stars).I've found countless great films very easily this way. I'm not sure if they have written reviews.If so, I don't care about them
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[videoblogging] open vs closed, attention, trust

2005-11-27 Thread robert a/k/a r
Hi all

Feel like getting your brain wrapped around something more satisfying 
perhaps than how to conform to Apple's scheme for adding your content 
to an iPod?

I stripped out the audio track from video we shot with Brad Templeton 
and Jerry Michalski, it's posted as an audio podcast (if you subscribe 
to my everything feed you it will have showed up this morning in your 
reader along with my vlogs) here:

http://www.24x7.com/blog/2005-11/bradtempletonjerrymichalski/

The conversation, imho, is def interesting, they cover some of the 
issues we debate on this list and elsewhere such as DRM, attention and 
trust. Yeah, it's not a vlog entry but it's relevant so please don't 
shoot me, I was considering posting the video too but I think it works 
with just the audio.

Perhaps download the podcast for your commute and come away with a 
fresh thought for a vlog post. I'm realising my taste buds these days 
are in search of vlogs that address societal issues, though I still 
enjoy little concept pieces like the Is this a dream clip ER posted 
earlier today and some of the personal ones (i.e., today's pick is 
Ryanne's mom's first vlog).

Enjoy.  It was a really fun and educational shoot down in Palo Alto 
with the two of them. Come and comment if you agree or disagree with 
what they say, I'm curious re what you think.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Blip would really be going in the right direction 
if it could help vloggers use flash. That would be a huge leap 
forward. Flash is definitely the future.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jared at Blip 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:34 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and 
  Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
  hi Bill, we've been 
  experimenting with transcoding Quicktime movies to Flash Video (FLV) 
  on Blip - if it will help, I can make a Flash version of your video 
  available. otherwise, it played fine for 
  me - Mac OS X 10.4.3 with Quicktime 7.0.2, and 3ivx D4 4.5.1 
  installed. let us know if there's 
  anything we can do for you!cheers,- Jared-- 
  Jared KlettCo-founder, Blip.tvE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vlog: http://jklett.blip.tv/AIM: 
  JaredAtWrokSkype: JaredOnSkype 
  On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Bill Streeter wrote: Yeah the 
  issue is with the video that I posted on Blip.tv http://blip.tv/file/4915/ of Richard and 
  I returning from the Meet the Vloggers in Chicago. It's not on my main 
  blog, so there is no Flash version, it's the QuickTime. This happened 
  once before. I did something with 3vix that made some people get a 
  white screen rather than a picture. And the weird thing was that these 
  people had simularly configured machines to mine (OS 10.4 QuickTime 7) 
  etc. Yet I could view the files and they couldn't. The only thing I 
  could think of was the fact that I had 3vix installed on my Quicktime 
  and they didn't. Bill




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday

2005-11-27 Thread Brett Gaylor



Taylor - where are those hard drives made? Are we paying what we
SHOULD be for them? I have a hard time believing that someone,
somewhere, isn't paying the price for that cheap hard drive, in cheap
labour, environmental destruction, or a dead end minimum wage job in a
box store.

In canada it's the day after christmas, and its called Boxing
Day. I personally hate it - i used to work at a record store
called AB Sound that had famous Boxing Day Sales - I saw people
get in fist fights over cheap hunks of plastic, yelling at each other
over car stereos - it was definitely not cheery. Sounds like your
experience was positive, but I found it to be some weird lord of the
flies electronics orgy of needless consumerism, basically everything
wrong with North American society rolled into a single event. But
then again, I'm not looking for a hard drive at the
moment/rant

b
On 11/26/05, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No Drinking Wednesday.Moderate eating Thursday after Two Football games. Hit the internetto make your PLAN to buy what you need including Christmas presents.Stay up all night - get in line about 2am so you are among FIRST. The
line is a social scene. Everyone is very friendly and fun to be with.Work your plan when doors open at 5am so you are FIRST at theregister so you are in and out in a flash. We are talking aboutpaying next to nothing for stuff. I got 600 GB worth of HD space for
$60 yesterday. That is a good thing. DV tape would have cost me about$200 for 600 GB of space.I was done by 7 am. Then I drove home to write all you about it. AVideoblog is totally unnecessary for this type of report.
--Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, FuturecasterSanta Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley
URL http://FutureMedia.orgRSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMediaiTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87
On Nov 26, 2005, at 2:27 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: So the pattern, if I understand it correctly, is: Wednesday stay up all night drinking. Thursday sleep all morning, then eat all afternoon
 Thursday/Friday night stand in lines for hours So that Friday morning you can crowd into a store with a huge mass of frenzied people Then stand in line some more to... Pay for more stuff than anyone actually needs!
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Re: [videoblogging] Homeless video blogging

2005-11-27 Thread Brett Gaylor




I mentioned at eons ago in January when i first signed up. We've
just now launched our beta release in drupal - its sort of confusing
and im just getting my head around it, but every drupal page has an RSS
feed.



This is probably the most active : everything from Montreal

http://homelessnation.org/fr/taxonomy/term/25/0/feed


bOn 11/26/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This
is Brett from etherworks.ca - For the past two days and several more,
I'm teaching homeless people how to blog and videoblog.We
have wireless Internet inside a makeshift refuge camp we have installed
in downtown Montreal.Come check it out and leave some
comments - these people need them.www.homelessnation.orgbrett--this is great great stuff.i think i remembered you mention this project several months ago.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Thanks, Steve. I was sure I saw that 
somewhere. However, when someone asks for documentation, I'm at a loss 
sometimes. I really was worried that I had made a mistake 
somewhere.

Your paragraph is exactly what I was referring 
to. Now, if they have rights to use and transfer, etc., doesn't that make 
them co-owners of whatever you post there?


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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steve 
  Watkins 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:33 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: the 
  continuing frustration
  Try this:http://www.youtube.com/terms.phpIts 
  probably the following stuff from section 5 that Randolfe wasrefring to. 
  Its enough to put me off, obviously they have to be giventhe rights to 
  distribute the work or they couldnt function, butperpetual and 
  sublicensable and transferable, hmm thats going a bitfar, they can pretty 
  much do what they like with peoples videos. Also'through any media 
  channels' suggests they can in theory take yourvideos and show them on TV 
  etc without giving you a dime:"For clarity, you shall retain all of 
  your ownership rights in yourUser Submissions. However, by submitting the 
  User Submissions toYouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, 
  non-exclusive, fullypaid-up, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, 
  sublicenseable andtransferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, 
  prepare derivativeworks of, display, perform and otherwise exploit the 
  User Submissionsin connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and 
  itssuccessor's) business, including without limitation for promoting 
  andredistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and 
  derivativeworks thereof) in any media formats and through any media 
  channels.You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a 
  non-exclusivelicense to access your User Submissions through the Website, 
  and touse, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display 
  andperform such User Submissions as permitted through the 
  functionalityof the Website and under these Terms of 
  Service"As for Randolfes other complaint about family friendly / 
  obscenitystuff, thats pretty standard terms  conditions for most 
  webhosts orserver provider, it doesnt actually mean they will filter out 
  adult orslightly objectionable stuff, it just gives them the right to do 
  so ifthey fel they have to.Steve of Elbows--- In 
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: Randolfe, I just went to the YouTube website, 
  to see where you formed this  impression, and did not see anything 
  about their owning of content.  Can you provide a link to a 
  URL that explains their policy on uploaded  videos? Thank 
  you, --Steve   On Nov 22, 2005, at 11:48 AM, 
  Randolfe Wicker wrote:   Bev, I have the impression that 
  YouTube "owns" your work once youpost   it there. 
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[videoblogging] NYTimes: As Corporate Ad Money Flows Their Way, Bloggers Risk Their Rebel Reputation

2005-11-27 Thread B Yen
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/26/technology/26blog.html

x-tad-bigger As Corporate Ad Money Flows Their Way, Bloggers Risk Their Rebel Reputation 
/x-tad-biggerx-tad-smaller
/x-tad-smallerx-tad-biggerBy LOUISE STORY

/x-tad-biggerx-tad-smallerPublished: November 26, 2005


/x-tad-smallerWhen Anita Campbell started her Web log about small-business trends two years ago, she thought it would simply be a service for her clients and help her consulting business grow.

Instead, she said, the blog just took off, attracting more readers than she had dreamed of. Then, companies offered to pay her to post advertisements and product mentions on her site. There were enough offers, she said, that she could choose to work with only the ones relevant to her readers. And so, her blog, once just a marketing tool, became a money generator on its own.

I never try to hide the fact that I am writing about an advertiser, she said in an e-mail statement. But I also don't apologize for accepting advertising, and I make it clear that just like everyone else I have to earn a living and pay the expenses of keeping the site going.

After beginning as a vehicle for anti-establishment, noncommercial writers, many Web logs have laid out welcome mats for corporate America in the last couple of years. No one tracks how much advertising money is flowing to Web logs. Nor is it clear how many bloggers, like Ms. Campbell, disclose their sponsors. But when writers have not been completely open, their fellow bloggers have been quick to criticize.

Businesses have noticed the growing readership and influence of these Internet postings and are spending $50 million to $100 million this year on blog advertising and marketing, said Charlene Li, an analyst at  Forrester Research, a company that looks at the impact of technology on business and consumers. Recognizing that blogs have become more mainstream, companies are paying for advertisements or mentions on blogs, courting blog writers with public relations efforts and inviting writers to come blog on one of their corporate sites.

The blogosphere, companies said, is an important place to have a presence, and blog writers are not shying away from the attention.

The attitude has completely changed from where it was two years ago and even a year ago, said Jim Kukral, the publisher of ReveNews, a site about making money from Web logs. People have started to realize that, hey, this is fun; we've proven it's fun; I enjoy doing it; now let's apply a few advertising techniques and make some money.

There is now an annual Blog Business Summit and several books on how to make money blogging.

Many blog writers have signed up for  Google's AdSense program, which started in 2003 and pays Web publishers based on how many times advertisements on their sites receive clicks. Google places the ads on participating Web sites using contextual word matching, in an attempt to ensure that the advertisements relate to the content on the page.

Bloggers are also making money through affiliate networks, which, in contrast to Google's automated system, allow blog writers to choose which advertisements to put on their pages. They also can be paid based on how often ads on their sites lead to sales rather than how often the ads receive clicks. Shareasale, Commission Junction and LinkShare are three such network companies.

You have all these self-publishers, people like the bloggers, who suddenly become business partners with Fortune 500 companies, said Heidi S. Messer, the president and chief operating officer of LinkShare, which connects Web writers with companies like Dell,  Wal-Mart and Apple Computer.

Sometimes blog writers make money by simply linking to companies' home pages. Companies come up higher in Google,  Yahoo and other search engines when they are frequently linked to and mentioned on many sites, including blogs.

USWeb, an online marketing firm, has run campaigns this year that pay people $5 to mention a company or link to its site. Most of the companies USWeb works with do not allow the company to identify them, said Ed Shull, the chief executive of USWeb, but some that he can mention include Lussori.com, a watch and jewelry company; Dot Flowers; and Terra Entertainment.

Currently, USWeb is asking people with personal profile pages on myspaces.com, a social networking site, to include a trailer from Terra Entertainment's coming release of the film One Perfect Day on their pages. In exchange, these Web users will have their names listed on the end of the credits on the film's DVD, Mr. Shull said.

USWeb has been criticized by some blog writers for not requiring its network of about 5,000 blog writers to disclose payments. It is currently completing guidelines on how bloggers should disclose that they were paid to mention products, Mr. Shull said.

We are still leaving this as an option to bloggers, he said in an e-mail statement, but we do recommend that they disclose to readers that advertisers do 

[videoblogging] Re: MPEG1 vs. MPEG4

2005-11-27 Thread Kent Nichols
I use a Sony still camera which shoots MPEG-1 at VGA 30fps.  Basically
Standard Def Video.

The system works well with a few caveats.  You need to convert the
MPEG file to something more edit friendly (you'll need to do this
regardless if it's MP4 or MP1) -- I just go for MiniDV.  This is a
less than realtime process on my Powerbook.

The image quality is okay, but nothing amazing.  For me the
convenience of carrying the camera at all times trumps a little image
quality and I would say it certainly rivals my old Canon ZR MiniDV
camcorder.

The camera iteself has some issues with finding focus and holding it,
but in general it does an okay job.  Also you can't Zoom during the
recording process.  I just leave it on the widest setting and go for it.

MP4 is newer and more efficient than MP1, but a lot of the cameras out
there don't support 30 fps, or are less than VGA.  The cam I have is
5MP for stills and does about miniDV quality video and is small enough
to carry around constantly.

You can check out my vlog at http://beatboxgiant.blogspot.com

-K

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marykaterobertson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am considering buying a digital camera which shoots in MPEG1. 
Until now I've been 
 shooting on mini-DV, importing into Final Cut, and exporting MPEG4.
 If I end up shooting 
 MPEG1 is it easy to convert to MPEG4 and what sort of image quality
can I expect?
 
 Am I better off buying a more expensive camera which shoots in MPEG4?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [videoblogging] MPEG1 vs. MPEG4

2005-11-27 Thread Verdi
Hey Mary,
On a Mac it's not too much of a problem. You have to take all of your  
clips and run them through MEGP streamclip to convert them to dv for  
editing.  On a PC I'm not sure how it works.  I asked about this the  
other day and didn't really get an answer.  BTW, I saw a Canon SD400  
for $300 in today's paper (don't remember what store).
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On Nov 27, 2005, at 7:07 PM, marykaterobertson wrote:

 I am considering buying a digital camera which shoots in MPEG1.   
 Until now I've been
 shooting on mini-DV, importing into Final Cut, and exporting  
 MPEG4.  If I end up shooting
 MPEG1 is it easy to convert to MPEG4 and what sort of image quality  
 can I expect?

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Re: [videoblogging] Do you need Permission to VLOG People In Public? Release Forms? Stalking or Vlog

2005-11-27 Thread Jen Simmons
  On the same token, paparazzis take celebrity pictures all the time 
 and distribute it freely ( I suspect without permission but I'm not 
 sure).

There are different sets of rules regarding famous people -- actors, 
politicians etc, and everybody else. I can't remember the details about 
when those rules matter -- but its having something to do with 
defamation/ privacy / etc. (Any lawyers around who know). I do know it 
means there are legal definitions of who's considered a public person 
and who's not. So don't use what people do with images / video / 
information about celebrities as a guide for what you can do with 
everyday people -- the laws aren't necessarily the same.

And of course, this is only about the US law.

jen


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





I'm wondering about "following" the lead of my 
vlogs.

My first vlog for Immortalism, featuring the 
founder of The Immortality Institute, has swamped all my other vlogs. It 
has over 600 hits while my other vlogs haven't hit 300 total hits.

So, should I "accept the message" and focus my 
vlogs on "defeating the blight of involuntary death"?

Shouldn't we "follow" our audience???

Or, should we hold out for those vlogs we think are 
important instead??


Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Susan 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:05 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: great post 
  of police misbehavior
  Hey! He said cheerleading. I vlog 
  cheerleading.http://www.kitykity.com/weblog.php/vlog/comments/2774/Ok 
  folks, now here's my two cents--my own, personal, two pennies.I get 
  bored by themed content. I do. I watch Rocketboom, but 
  notevery day, even though it's in my FireANT--but I see that Josh 
  Leo,or Erin Nealey, have a new vlog post up, and I wonder, "WOW! 
  What isTHIS one about?"What is this one about? I don't know, 
  because every day is COMPLETELYdifferent.This is how my vlog posts 
  are. Different. Sure, there might be aten-part series of me 
  going to Boston, seeing an excellent concert(plug for http://www.adamezra.com ), getting drunk, 
  and buying bagelsafterwards; but that series ends at some point in 
  time.After that, as Monty Python would say, "...and now for 
  somethingcompletely different."I like different, on a daily or 
  weekly basis. Themes don't suit mypallete, you might say. Not 
  for long, anyways.Or look at how Steve Garfield does it--sure, he has 
  themes, but thereare many themes--CarolSteve, VlogSoup, multiple 
  topics. So insteadof being stuck on one theme, you might instead 
  call them...categories... where, if you were anal enough, you could make 
  separatefeeds for each category of vlog post.Here's what Grammy 
  thinks of themes... and, coincidentally, FireANT...http://www.kitykity.com/weblog.php/vlog/comments/2760/If 
  all I had were two fans--my parents in Maine, and my in-laws inTexas--I 
  would be happy. Letting them see their grandkids and such ona daily 
  basis completely rocks. However... wow... I seem to havefifty 
  additional feed-pings per day besides them, which while surethey could be 
  duplicate people using different aggregators, is suremore than five 
  additional non-relative people. So I have no theme,yet somehow I 
  have some kind of audience, which seems to be growing byabout an average 
  of five "pingers" a week.I'm not digging any deeper than this. 
  I'm not out for an argument. But this has been spiraling around for so 
  long, and I have beenwanting to speak my piece.So 
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Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker
For the record, I'm a fan of Dick Cavett.

I wanted to ask him two other questions: What are you working on now? and 
Have you experienced age discrimination in our youth-oriented culture?

I never got the chance to ask the important questions because he got overly 
defensive about his age.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

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Advisor: The Immortality Institute
Hoboken, NJ
http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
201-656-3280


- Original Message - 
From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?


 On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:01:49 +0100, Randolfe Wicker
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After railing against political correctness in some really charming
 exchanges, Dick Cavett didn't seem ready after telling the interviewer
 who asked if he could ask a politically incorrect question that he
 could to bring it on.

 At least quote the guy correctly. He said shoot, shoot. Why'd you ask
 the question? Just to get a reaction? Seems to me you should've just done
 some basic research. According to wikipedia Cavett was born in 1936.

 What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask
 some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking
 about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your
 question with a wink in his eye.

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Re: [videoblogging] My feed needs to move...

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Wow, what a nightmare!!

Imagine Blip TV going out of business! What 
should we do to keep from losing our work? Do we have to keep the 
originals on our computer??

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Juan Falla  Ximena Muñoz 
  
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:54 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] My feed needs to 
  move...
  Hi,I'm in an interesting situation right now: the 
  place where I have my vlog is closing down, so I'm in the process of 
  moving all my posts to a new vlog (in blogger). I'm OK with re-publishing 
  my posts (they're only 18), but I have a question regaring my feed:Can I 
  copy/paste the code to my new vlog, and will it stay the same?Or should I 
  get a new feed?Right now my feed is:http://feeds.feedburner.com/LivingWithFallasMy 
  vlog:http://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.comObviously 
  my main concern is the people who are subscribed to it. As I wouldn't want 
  them to have to subscribe again. I don't know if this is possible or if 
  it's better to just create a new one and let everyone know about it. 
  (?)Any one out there has any idea?Thanks very 
  much.Juanhttp://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.com




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Thumbnail archive with videos only?

2005-11-27 Thread Devlon
Hi Jen,

On 11/27/05, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter, is there anyway to refresh what mefeedia sees? Ie: to get it
 to clear out it's database and re-look through all the entries in a
 videblog to find files, links and make new thumbnails??

No, we don't have that yet.

 Or any way to tell it to go get a thumbnail??

No, not yet :)

 It seems quite common that mefeedia misses a movie + never makes the
 thumbnail for it. And I ran into trouble when I changed a post and
 mefeedia was stuck on the first version (which I'd deleted) and
 wouldn't take in the new information about the second version


When Mefeedia misses a movie, it will get to it at some point in the
future.. Right now, we're working on speeding that up. When you change
a post, Mefeedia doesn't check it again right now.

Basically, all those problems you mentioned are indeed problems, and
we're working on them. It will take a while though, I hope to have
fixes for these things by about March 2006. Sorry it will take so
long! I hope to have the thumbnails speed up faster than that..

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Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?

2005-11-27 Thread Randolfe Wicker





A clear cut case of "gender prejudice". Not 
sure you would understand the issues involved

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pete Prodoehl 
  
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:59 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] "How Old is 
  Dick Cavett?"
  Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:  What's 
  the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask 
   some completely random question that isn't related to what he was 
  talking  about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even 
  answered your  question with a wink in his eye.It's 
  breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to 
  conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to?My 
  friend once did an interview with the vocalist from the band Plaid Retina, 
  it consisted of one question, and then ended. The question was: "Why do 
  you sing like a girl?"Pete-- http://tinkernet.org/videoblog for the 
  future...

  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] My feed needs to move...

2005-11-27 Thread Devlon



Setting up an account with the Internet Archive and crossposting via Blip is a good start. 

(I always burn a cd/dvd of my stuff anyway.)On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Wow, what a nightmare!!

Imagine Blip TV going out of business! What 
should we do to keep from losing our work? Do we have to keep the 
originals on our computer??

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280




  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Juan Falla  Ximena Muñoz 
  
  To: 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:54 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] My feed needs to 
  move...
  Hi,I'm in an interesting situation right now: the 
  place where I have my vlog is closing down, so I'm in the process of 
  moving all my posts to a new vlog (in blogger). I'm OK with re-publishing 
  my posts (they're only 18), but I have a question regaring my feed:Can I 
  copy/paste the code to my new vlog, and will it stay the same?Or should I 
  get a new feed?Right now my feed is:http://feeds.feedburner.com/LivingWithFallas
My 
  vlog:http://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.comObviously 
  my main concern is the people who are subscribed to it. As I wouldn't want 
  them to have to subscribe again. I don't know if this is possible or if 
  it's better to just create a new one and let everyone know about it. 
  (?)Any one out there has any idea?Thanks very 
  much.Juanhttp://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.com




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] My feed needs to move...

2005-11-27 Thread Devlon



Sorry, and any others that are linked up with IA (OurMedia, etc.) ...if I've forgotten anyone, apologies.On 11/27/05, Devlon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Setting up an account with the Internet Archive and crossposting via Blip is a good start. 


(I always burn a cd/dvd of my stuff anyway.)On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Wow, what a nightmare!!

Imagine Blip TV going out of business! What 
should we do to keep from losing our work? Do we have to keep the 
originals on our computer??

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280




  - Original Message - 
  

From: 
  Juan Falla  Ximena Muñoz 
  
  To: 

videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:54 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] My feed needs to 
  move...
  Hi,I'm in an interesting situation right now: the 
  place where I have my vlog is closing down, so I'm in the process of 
  moving all my posts to a new vlog (in blogger). I'm OK with re-publishing 
  my posts (they're only 18), but I have a question regaring my feed:Can I 
  copy/paste the code to my new vlog, and will it stay the same?Or should I 
  get a new feed?Right now my feed is:http://feeds.feedburner.com/LivingWithFallas
My 
  vlog:http://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.comObviously 
  my main concern is the people who are subscribed to it. As I wouldn't want 
  them to have to subscribe again. I don't know if this is possible or if 
  it's better to just create a new one and let everyone know about it. 
  (?)Any one out there has any idea?Thanks very 
  much.Juanhttp://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.com




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
You can do whatever you like, that's one of the great things about
vidoeblogging.
Of course, if you want to reach a larger audience, you might want to
create content with regards to that particular audience in mind.

Also, don't get too hung up on stats. The longer you produce content,
the more attention you will attract. That's just inevtiable. You'll
get more links in various places, you'll make more connections in the
blogosphere, etc.

Just keep doing what you want to do and by golly you'll end up doing
what you want to do.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm wondering about following the lead of my  vlogs.

 My first vlog for Immortalism, featuring the  founder of The Immortality 
 Institute, has swamped all my other vlogs.  It  has over 600 hits while my 
 other vlogs haven't hit 300 total hits.

 So, should I accept the message and focus my  vlogs on defeating the 
 blight of involuntary death?

 Shouldn't we follow our audience???

 Or, should we hold out for those vlogs we think are  important instead??


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-27 Thread Joan Khoo



Sounds like a do we give the audience what they want or do we do what we want dilemma. 

Personally, I would do what I want regardless of the audience. I
believe its all in how you present it. If you consistently deliver
interesting topics, the audience have no choice but to follow you.
There's not point delivering interesting topics if you have no
enthusiasm to back it up. 

Joan


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My first vlog for Immortalism, featuring thefounder of The
Immortality Institute, has swamped all my other
vlogs.Ithas over 600 hits while my other vlogs
haven't hit 300 total hits. So, should I accept the message and focus myvlogs on defeating the blight of involuntary death? Shouldn't we follow our audience???
 Or, should we hold out for those vlogs we think areimportant instead?? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The ImmortalityInstitute
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[videoblogging] Quicktime Pro vs Windows Movie Maker

2005-11-27 Thread Joan Khoo



I've been using Windows Movie Maker for a while and am thinking of getting Quicktime Pro.

Can anyone tell me which would they prefer to use and why. And what does 
Quicktime have that WMM don't?

Cheers!
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Re: [videoblogging] Quicktime Pro vs Windows Movie Maker

2005-11-27 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Quicktime Pro is not really for editing, although you can use it for
simple editing (copy and paste style, but not timeline based).

Quicktime Pro is generally used for converting movie files and compressing them.
You can also do some advanced stuff like add captioning and clickable
links inside movies that you can't really do with WMV.

-Josh


On 11/27/05, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been using Windows Movie Maker for a while and am thinking of getting
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  Can anyone tell me which would they prefer to use and why. And what does
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[videoblogging] vlog web 2.0 style - fluxiom

2005-11-27 Thread Michael Sullivan



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-27 Thread Ronen



On 11/28/05, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Sounds like a do we give the audience what they want or do we do what we want dilemma. 
This usually depends largely on whether the audience has money.

Ronen
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 Or, should we hold out for those vlogs we think areimportant instead?? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The ImmortalityInstitute
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