Re: [videoblogging] Re: getting i-tunes feed

2005-08-04 Thread Devlon




Yeah, it's in the settings for FeedBurner. 

Unless I am out to lunch, it's the 'SmartCast' feature which I think
you need anyway for the enclosures (for FireAnt and MeFeedia).


On 8/3/05, Joshua Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FeedBurner might be set for iTunes, but you'll need to double-check. This
 may or may not help:
 http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/07/27/vlog.html
 
 - josh
 
 
 On Aug 3, 2005, at 9:30 PM, jonny goldstein wrote:
 Guess I wasn't clear. How to I create a feed from my own vlog that
 will show up in i-tunes? Or does my regular feedburner from
 jonnygoldstein.com that works w/FireAnt and mefeedia work for i-tunes? 
 And how do I get apple to list my feed in i-tunes?
 
 Someone must have written this up already?

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[videoblogging] Re: new URLs @ ourmedia Not Working either

2005-08-04 Thread Eric Lunt




Sorry all ... I'm on vacation right now, so I didn't see this thread
until now. It seems like we're not getting appropriate content-type
header responses for a number of the links referenced in the
thisrevolution feed (including the idisk.mac.com URLs), so we're not
generating enclosure elements for all items. We only generate
enclosure elements for those links that return an appropriate rich
media content-type.

Please feel free to direct any support questions to feedback [at]
feedburner.com ... we have a bunch of eager FeedBurners ready to help.

Sorry for not catching this post sooner.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric, 
 can you comment on this issue and help me understand?
 
 thanks,
 
 sull
 
 On 7/28/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  i know your feed on vlogdir used to be fine, showing several feed
  items with enclosures.
  vlogdir's aggregator filters out posts that do not contain
  enclosures... to comply strictly as a media aggregator.
  
  looks to me that your feed is all setup with itunes xml spec, but I
  only see one single enclosure tags in the xml (viewing source). The
  feed should definately have this mixed in with the itunes extensions
  on all your items, but currently its only the one, which is what shows
  up at vlogdir...
  
  vlogdir aggregator doesnt read itunes extensions nor should it
have 
  to.
  
  admittedly, i dont keep up on all the intracacies of how feedburner
  works... and I'm not too fond of what I do know about the service
  but my guess is that some configs at feedburner can make and break
  your feed, depending on what aggregator is handling it.
  
  i attached the feedburner feed and if you search for enclosure url as
  far as i can tell, their is just one instance.
  
  anyone in the know on how to make this feed, and others, have
  enclosure url= "" all feed items along side the itunes extensions
  using feedburner?
  
  sull
  
  
  On 7/28/05, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Ok, so... vlogdir doesn't like my feed -- but the iTunes aggregator
   works fine... fireANT seems to work... this is strange.
  
   Josh
  
  
   On Jul 28, 2005, at 7:18 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  
on http://vlogdir.com/permalink/162, in the media aggregator,
only one
feed item comes through.
   
   
On 7/28/05, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been using those reference links the whole time...

 Anyone able to see the videos in my feed?

 http://feeds.feedburner.com/thisrevolution

 Josh


 On Jul 28, 2005, at 6:21 PM, ryanne hodson wrote:

  kinberg just said that feedburner can't feed those reference
links...
  is that true?
  can we test this?
  should i totally freak out now?
 
 
 
  On 7/28/05, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   everyone should try to blog this too
   that's how i figured out what the heck was happening
   i saw it on luxomedia
  
   so the links you should be using look like this:
  
   http://www.archive.org/download/NPR_still/npr.jpg
  
   and not this:
  
   http://ia300107.us.archive.org/2/items/NPR_still/npr.jpg
  
   because the archive is moving things around, this first
reference
  link
   is more accurate.
  
   please blog this
  
   now i'm off to rebuild my site before i go to california for
  BlogHer.
   timing timing timing.
  
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[videoblogging] Re: getting i-tunes feed

2005-08-04 Thread iwatchedthewholething




that feed should work.

brad
www.iwatchedthewholething.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guess I wasn't clear. How to I create a feed from my own vlog that
 will show up in i-tunes? Or does my regular feedburner from
 jonnygoldstein.com that works w/FireAnt and mefeedia work for i-tunes? 
 And how do I get apple to list my feed in i-tunes?
 
 Someone must have written this up already?
 
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, iwatchedthewholething
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  just open up itunes...click on music store then click podcasts. 
  Select submit a podcast, and follow the instructions from there. 
  you'll need a mac.com or aol.com account, but you can set one up for
  free. 
  
  you can also to to mefeedia.com and register your feed. it will
  supply you with a chiclet for itunes as well.
  
  brad
  www.iwatchedthewholething.blogspot.com
  
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm sure this has been covered already, but could someone point me
  to a resource that tells 
   me how to set up my feed for i-tunes and anything else i need to do
  so folks can watch it on 
   i-tunes?
   
   Just so you don't think I'm a total leech, I did spend awhile going
  through old posts to this 
   list, but didn't find what I needed.
   
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[videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Ed




Tags rock.

One of my favorite places to tag is 
http://vimeo.com

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 this year, this family event, this labor strike...whatever. love, blue, sliceoflife, 
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[videoblogging] Re: ATTN: Erin

2005-08-04 Thread Erin Nealey




Pat - Fine with me! If it can save anyone some $$$, I'm all for it :) 

Erin Nealey
Mom's Brag Vlog
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone:
 
 Erin...Would you mind if I pass your message along about 
 FreePlayMusic (or point to the Yahoo! assigned URL on the group page) 
 to some other people I know that use that site as well? I'd leave 
 your email out so you don't get spammed, but would keep your video 
 blog included (unless of course you indicate otherwise). :-)
 
 Figured I'd better ask first before going ahead out of the sake of 
 proper netiquette if ya know what I mean. :-)
 
 Cheers for now :-)
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Blogger HTML code of your own design

2005-08-04 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)




Hi everyone:
At 07:33 AM 8/3/2005, Josh Kinberg wrote:
Log in to Blogger and go to
Template section. There you can pick a new
theme or edit the template code yourself. To just edit the style,
you
can customize the CSS at the top of the template, and if you need to
adjust layout you can edit other sections of the HTML. Be careful
though because there are a lot of special tags that Blogger uses to
build the dynamic parts of your site -- things like yout Blog entry
posts and post metadata (title, date, etc..), and also links to your
archives. If you understand HTML, you'll pick it up pretty
quick.
I've been wondering the same thing myself But here's a more
specific question Josh.
I would like to add a background image to one of my blogs that is like
the backdrop of the whole page. It's in JPEG format and is already
up on the storage server. All I need to know is where the right
place is within the template to replace the current background color
(which is similar but not quite what I'd like) with the image.
Any ideas anyone?
Cheers for now :-)
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Re: [videoblogging] VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)




Hi everyone:

At 01:33 PM 8/3/2005, you wrote:
too cool.
nice job, matt

I echo Michael's sentiments. :-) Google Earth KICKS BUTT. :-)

Cheers for now everyone :-)

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Re: [videoblogging] Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Jay dedman




 For me, the whole aspect of making media is about creating a new millenium card
 catalog. I want media of various viewpoints accessible in the future. your home town,
 this year, this family event, this labor strike...whatever. love, blue, sliceoflife,
 animation. Tag it what it is!
 
 Places you can tag:
 http://mefeedia.com/
 http://blip.tv/
 http://del.icio.us/
 http://flickr.com/
 http://technorati.com/
 http://YOUR WEBSITE HERE
 
 (who else? It's the Wild West of Media right now. Hop on your horse and take it over...but
 not like John Wayne. Or Arnie.)

you can also tag in FireANT.
http://getFireANT.NET
just the PC version for now...but the new mac version (coming out
soon) will let you tag directly to delicious.

this is the year of the video filter.

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Re: [videoblogging] Emails of Replies of your Posted Message

2005-08-04 Thread Jay dedman




 Does anyone know how to get individual e mails of your post on this forum?
 All i can get is every single e mail or a summ of all of them. I may
 just have to look at every one..

you only want copies of your own posts?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: off on a (valuation) tangent

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:17:54 +0200, jadly6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rob check your link...

To avoid links breaking in e-mails you enclose them between URL: 

So this url:

 http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/08/what-would-you-pay-to-place-
 ad-on.html

would be written:

URL: 
http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/08/what-would-you-pay-to-place-ad-on.html 


Remember the spaces. Now any sane e-mail program won't break your URL.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Naming The Group

2005-08-04 Thread R. Kristiansen




On 8/4/05, Tim D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But we are The videoblogging group. I think that it is possible to
 overthink things a bit. The only reason that there would need to be
 another The videoblogging group of our nature is if people are not
 happy with how things are working here. I hope that doesn't happen.
 When other entities arise, it is probably more likely that they are
 going to be subdivisions or branches of this group. Therefore, they
 might be The Canadian Videoblogging Group or The International
 Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Videoblogging Group. In my opinion
 (and you can take it for what it's worth), I don't think we need to
 worry about discounting anyone by having the word The in front of
 our name. So...my vote is for The Videoblogging Group. Simple and
 to the point.

Respectfully, I disagree. There Cannot be any 'THE Videoblogging
group'. To speak of that is like to say there is a THE podcasting
group, or THE blogging discussion group.

Look at who created the first wiki, Ward Cunningham. He is credited
for his work, but he cannot claim that whatever wiki or mailing list
he created is THE wiki resource. The world moves on.

To me, this mailing list is the most important mailing list out there
on videoblogging, and as long as this community stays vibrant, it will
continue to grow and be the biggest/most important one. But, once
again, it cannot be The one. And that has nothing to do with my lack
of respect for this community or lack of appreciation of the
discussions going on here.

My suggestion: The videoblogging yahoogroups. Because, after all,
the url is groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging, and because it is
pretty generic. There can be only one 'videoblogging' yahoogroups;
others can create The vogging yahoogroups if they want. :)

Best, 

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Re: [videoblogging] VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread Tim D




Matt - awesome. Thanks for setting this up! 

Tim
realitysandwich.typepad.com

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 wow the goolge earth is way cool I'm going to play with it a while. 
 
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 my location on the world map






  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



i decided to hold back from adding tags on vlogdir, which would let you tag videoblog site, feeds and the actual media links.
tagging is cool, but i am a bit frustrated that we have so many
different laces to tag instead of it all being integrated. 
it makes things too complicated and shouldnt be used as a competitive feature.
this is why we are starting to talk about an Open Tagging system...
Ro, myself and others from the video vertigo clan will try and work this out. 

we need to get tag systems unified. otherwise its
counter-intuitive for the whole of the vlogoshpere and open media
culture.

sull
 On 8/4/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For me, the whole aspect of making media is about creating a new millenium card catalog.I want media of various viewpoints accessible in the future.your home town, this year, this family event, this labor strike...whatever.love, blue, sliceoflife,
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http://del.icio.us/ http://flickr.com/ http://technorati.com/ http://YOUR WEBSITE HERE
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[videoblogging] Wikipedia Aggregator Entry Requires Editing to include Vlogs

2005-08-04 Thread Jan





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggregator

I'm just sayin'.

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Re: [videoblogging] Blogger HTML code of your own design

2005-08-04 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)




Hi everyone:
At 06:49 AM 8/4/2005, you wrote:
Two ways to do
that:
Here's the explanation of the CSS background-image property:
http://tinyurl.com/76uqt
Here's how to add a background image with HTML:
http://tinyurl.com/8addm

I don't want it inside the BODY. I want the BODY and the SIDEBAR to
be on top of it. 
In other words, the image would serve as the background for the WHOLE
page.
Get it now? :-)
Cheers for now :-)
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Re: [videoblogging] Blogger HTML code of your own design

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:34:41 +0200, Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't want it inside the BODY. I want the BODY and the SIDEBAR to
 be on top of it.

Add background-image to the body. Set the background-color for your blog 
body and sidebar to some solid colour.

Done.

If you want more I think you can get better help in a designated webdesign 
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[videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread petertheman





Places you can tag videos:
http://mefeedia.com/ 
http://blip.tv/ 
http://del.icio.us/ 
http://technorati.com/ 
http://getFireANT.NET 

I am working on supporting rel=tag in Mefeedia (like Technorati
does), which will make things much easier hopefully. Sull/Ro are
right, you should be able to just tag in 1 place.

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[videoblogging] Teen Vlogroll

2005-08-04 Thread luxomaticart




Hi all,
I am working with highschool students this Summer to teach them videoblogging and we 
will be posting our vlog project soon! I would like to put together a vlogroll of teen 
vloggers to post on our group blog. So if you are a teen vlogger or know any, please post 
them here and/or email me directly.

peace,
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:40:08 +0200, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I am working on supporting rel=tag in Mefeedia (like Technorati
 does), which will make things much easier hopefully. Sull/Ro are
 right, you should be able to just tag in 1 place.

And that place should first and foremost be on your own blog. Brownie 
points to mefeedia for wanting to support technorati-style tagging.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: getting i-tunes feed

2005-08-04 Thread Jan McLaughlin




Peter,

Having read the iTunes spec 10 times without comprehension I have no 
doubt but that you struggled mightily to make that iTunes one-click a 
reality.

Thanks from the bottom of my wanna-be techie heart.

Jan

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On Aug 4, 2005, at 11:37 AM, petertheman wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johngaltsjournal
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 Easy way: go to your vlog page on mefeedia and copy the iTunes link.

 Automagically generated!

 And let me just say: a lot of sweat went into that automagic (and
 continues to go in there) :)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Joshua Kinberg




 And that place should first and foremost be on your own blog. Brownie
 points to mefeedia for wanting to support technorati-style tagging.

Sorry Andreas, this is retarded. Why can't your
viewers/readers/audience tag stuff too. Tags are not only for authors.
This is what makes tagging interesting. This is why Del.icio.us is so
freaking cool.

I'm totally down with the open tagging stuff. I think its important.
Tagging islands are dumb and will not scale. But, any open tagging
system must be able to provide attribution to the originating tag
service. So, it adds a 4th axis in the Tag equation:

- Tag
- Tagger
- Tagged object
- Tag service

Although, this discussion is better suited to the Vertigo list.

-Josh


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 On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:40:08 +0200, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  I am working on supporting rel=tag in Mefeedia (like Technorati
  does), which will make things much easier hopefully. Sull/Ro are
  right, you should be able to just tag in 1 place.
 
 And that place should first and foremost be on your own blog. Brownie
 points to mefeedia for wanting to support technorati-style tagging.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Clint Sharp




Joshua Kinberg wrote:


 Although, this discussion is better suited to the Vertigo list.

 -Josh

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Re: [videoblogging] Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Meiser




I think the islands of tags are a good thing. Tag systems need to 
compete with each other and distinguish from one another. All are not 
created equal. Tag systems in educational sectors will be different 
from tags in entertainment goods. The fact that they're all competing 
allows for rapid trial an error, rapid development and progress. I've 
seen and been in many discussions about the differences between 
different tag systems and the separation and analysis of the subtleties 
is precisely what has caused rapid innovation.

Most importantly out side resources or meta resources like technoratti, 
google and many others can study, compare and bring together all these 
tag systems in interesting ways. All that is important is that they 
interface, that there is some standard interoperability standards for 
comparing, and with tagging there fundamentally are, but we have a lot 
more we can do.

In other words, there is no tag system to rule them all, go, be happy, 
be true to your community and let it evolve separately because that way 
it'll be most useful to your community. Feel free to do stuff 
differently. yeah, it's the think globally act locally routine. Mono 
culture not good... methods in the madness and all that jazz.

Peace,

Mike

Michael Meiser
http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff
http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - serious lunacy stuff

On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:

 i decided to hold back from adding tags on vlogdir, which would let 
you tag videoblog site, feeds and the actual media links.
 tagging is cool, but i am a bit frustrated that we have so many 
different laces to tag instead of it all being integrated. 
 it makes things too complicated and shouldnt be used as a competitive 
feature.
 this is why we are starting to talk about an Open Tagging system...
 Ro, myself and others from the video vertigo clan will try and work 
this out. 

 we need to get tag systems unified.  otherwise its counter-intuitive 
for the whole of the vlogoshpere  and open media culture.

 sull

On 8/4/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  catalog.  I want media of various viewpoints accessible in the 
 future.  your home town,
  this year, this family event, this labor 
 strike...whatever.  love, blue, sliceoflife,
  animation.  Tag it what it is!
 
  Places you can tag:
  http://mefeedia.com/
  http://blip.tv/
  http://del.icio.us/
  http://flickr.com/
  http://technorati.com/
  http://YOUR WEBSITE HERE
 
  (who else?  It's the Wild West of Media right now.  Hop on your 
 horse and take it over...but
  not like John Wayne.  Or Arnie.)

 you can also tag in FireANT.
 http://getFireANT.NET
 just the PC version for now...but the new mac version (coming out
 soon) will let you tag directly to delicious.

 this is the year of the video filter.

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[videoblogging] Beta testers wanted for a new videoblogging tool

2005-08-04 Thread Austin Marshall



I work for a company that is developing a number of video-related
products, much of which have rgeat potential for the blogging
world. We've developed a product that allows you to create a
full-motion video using only pictures and a web browser (no
software/hardware investment required). To add an audio track,
you simply make a phone call or you supply text to be read aloud using
our text-to-speech system. You can even search Yahoo! from within
our interface and find pictures if you don't have any to provide, or
you can drag and drop pictures from another website to our uploader You
can then post this video to your blog or do whatever you want with
it. Right now this is available for free at
http://www.pic2vid.com and we are looking for beta testers so that we
can better tailor the product to the blogging community. I have
some sample posts at my own blog at http://www.utdallas.edu/~austinwm/

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Re: [videoblogging] Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Joshua Kinberg




 I think the islands of tags are a good thing. Tag systems need to
 compete with each other and distinguish from one another. All are not
 created equal. 

This is exactly why its important for an open tagging system to refer
back to the originating tagging service.

Del.icio.us is a great place to find links about Ruby and Ajax, but
Upcoming.org is a great place to find out about indie rock concerts.
Other tagging islands, or communities, may have a different focus.
Hopefully FireANT will become a great service for finding *videos*.

What's needed is some kind of glue to stitch these islands together --
not an über system to rule them all.

-Josh



On 8/4/05, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the islands of tags are a good thing. Tag systems need to
 compete with each other and distinguish from one another. All are not
 created equal. Tag systems in educational sectors will be different
 from tags in entertainment goods. The fact that they're all competing
 allows for rapid trial an error, rapid development and progress. I've
 seen and been in many discussions about the differences between
 different tag systems and the separation and analysis of the subtleties
 is precisely what has caused rapid innovation.
 
 Most importantly out side resources or meta resources like technoratti,
 google and many others can study, compare and bring together all these
 tag systems in interesting ways. All that is important is that they
 interface, that there is some standard interoperability standards for
 comparing, and with tagging there fundamentally are, but we have a lot
 more we can do.
 
 In other words, there is no tag system to rule them all, go, be happy,
 be true to your community and let it evolve separately because that way
 it'll be most useful to your community. Feel free to do stuff
 differently. yeah, it's the think globally act locally routine. Mono
 culture not good... methods in the madness and all that jazz.
 
 Peace,
 
 Mike
 
 Michael Meiser
 http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff
 http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - serious lunacy stuff
 
 On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 
 i decided to hold back from adding tags on vlogdir, which would let
 you tag videoblog site, feeds and the actual media links.
 tagging is cool, but i am a bit frustrated that we have so many
 different laces to tag instead of it all being integrated.
 it makes things too complicated and shouldnt be used as a competitive
 feature.
 this is why we are starting to talk about an Open Tagging system...
 Ro, myself and others from the video vertigo clan will try and work
 this out.
 
 we need to get tag systems unified. otherwise its counter-intuitive
 for the whole of the vlogoshpere and open media culture.
 
 sull
 
 On 8/4/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   catalog.I want media of various viewpoints accessible in the
  future.your home town,
   this year, this family event, this labor
  strike...whatever.love, blue, sliceoflife,
   animation.Tag it what it is!
  
   Places you can tag:
   http://mefeedia.com/
   http://blip.tv/
   http://del.icio.us/
   http://flickr.com/
   http://technorati.com/
   http://YOUR WEBSITE HERE
  
   (who else?It's the Wild West of Media right now.Hop on your
  horse and take it over...but
   not like John Wayne.Or Arnie.)
 
  you can also tag in FireANT.
  http://getFireANT.NET
  just the PC version for now...but the new mac version (coming out
  soon) will let you tag directly to delicious.
 
  this is the year of the video filter.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



yep.. what josh said... thats what we need and thats what i meant.
must keep the cloudy benefits. its all about tapping into a tagging infrastructure. 

on the same note, i also feel that author only tags should accompany community tags.. so i agree with Andreas. 
there is no reason to exclude that ability... its only a matter of intutively implementing it.

sullOn 8/4/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the islands of tags are a good thing. Tag systems need to compete with each other and distinguish from one another. All are not created equal.This is exactly why its important for an open tagging system to refer
back to the originating tagging service.Del.icio.us is a great place to find links about Ruby and Ajax, butUpcoming.org is a great place to find out about indie rock concerts.
Other tagging islands, or communities, may have a different focus.Hopefully FireANT will become a great service for finding *videos*.What's needed is some kind of glue to stitch these islands together --
not an über system to rule them all.-JoshOn 8/4/05, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the islands of tags are a good thing. Tag systems need to
 compete with each other and distinguish from one another. All are not created equal.Tag systems in educational sectors will be different from tags in entertainment goods. The fact that they're all competing
 allows for rapid trial an error, rapid development and progress.I've seen and been in many discussions about the differences between different tag systems and the separation and analysis of the subtleties
 is precisely what has caused rapid innovation. Most importantly out side resources or meta resources like technoratti, google and many others can study, compare and bring together all these
 tag systems in interesting ways.All that is important is that they interface, that there is some standard interoperability standards for comparing, and with tagging there fundamentally are, but we have a lot
 more we can do. In other words, there is no tag system to rule them all, go, be happy, be true to your community and let it evolve separately because that way it'll be most useful to your community. Feel free to do stuff
 differently. yeah, it's the think globally act locally routine. Mono culture not good... methods in the madness and all that jazz. Peace, Mike Michael Meiser
 http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - serious lunacy stuff On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 i decided to hold back from adding tags on vlogdir, which would let you tag videoblog site, feeds and the actual media links. tagging is cool, but i am a bit frustrated that we have so many
 different laces to tag instead of it all being integrated. it makes things too complicated and shouldnt be used as a competitive feature. this is why we are starting to talk about an Open Tagging system...
 Ro, myself and others from the video vertigo clan will try and work this out. we need to get tag systems unified. otherwise its counter-intuitive for the whole of the vlogoshpere and open media culture.
 sull On 8/4/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   catalog.I want media of various viewpoints accessible in the
  future.your home town,   this year, this family event, this labor  strike...whatever.love, blue, sliceoflife,
   animation.Tag it what it is! Places you can tag:   http://mefeedia.com/   
http://blip.tv/   http://del.icio.us/   http://flickr.com/   http://technorati.com/
   http://YOUR WEBSITE HERE(who else?It's the Wild West of Media right now.Hop on your  horse and take it over...but   not like John 
Wayne.Or Arnie.)   you can also tag in FireANT.  http://getFireANT.NET  just the PC version for now...but the new mac version (coming out
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[videoblogging] Re: VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread Erin Nealey




Do you mean me??? LOL. If so, check to see if my husband has cut the
grass since I've been gone. Bet he hasn't. Hehe! - Erin

Mom's Brag Vlog
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 Right now, I'm taking a virtual trip from my place to Erin's (again 
 just for grins) :-) Am currently somewhere in Central Missouri 
 now. :-) *LOL!*
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: getting i-tunes feed

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



can you explain how this works?
i've been mostly not paying attention to itunes world.. so feking annoying.

so, i went into itunes and i subscribed to http://mefeedia.com/pcast/7.pcast
it gets added to the list but it cannot find any items to download.
sais there ar eno playable episodes.
am i doing this wrong? 

if i click on one-click badge, it doesnt launch itunes... i need to
config my system for that but too lazy. it just opens up my text editor.

thnx
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 Automagically generated!And let me just say: a lot of sweat went into that automagic (andcontinues to go in there) :)Peter
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[videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread johngaltsjournal




I agree, some sort of universal tagging method should be in place. I just assumed we are 
heading there slowly but surely.

I mean, I'm no programmer, but I know its coming. I'm ready for it!

schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i decided to hold back from adding tags on vlogdir, which would let you tag 
 videoblog site, feeds and the actual media links.
 tagging is cool, but i am a bit frustrated that we have so many different 
 laces to tag instead of it all being integrated. 
 it makes things too complicated and shouldnt be used as a competitive 
 feature.
 this is why we are starting to talk about an Open Tagging system...
 Ro, myself and others from the video vertigo clan will try and work this 
 out. 
 
 we need to get tag systems unified. otherwise its counter-intuitive for the 
 whole of the vlogoshpere and open media culture.
 
 sull
 
 On 8/4/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   For me, the whole aspect of making media is about creating a new 
  millenium card
   catalog. I want media of various viewpoints accessible in the future. 
  your home town,
   this year, this family event, this labor strike...whatever. 
  love, blue, sliceoflife,
   animation. Tag it what it is!
  
   Places you can tag:
   http://mefeedia.com/
   http://blip.tv/
   http://del.icio.us/
   http://flickr.com/
   http://technorati.com/
   http://YOUR WEBSITE HERE
  
   (who else? It's the Wild West of Media right now. Hop on your horse and 
  take it over...but
   not like John Wayne. Or Arnie.)
  
  you can also tag in FireANT.
  http://getFireANT.NET
  just the PC version for now...but the new mac version (coming out
  soon) will let you tag directly to delicious.
  
  this is the year of the video filter.
  
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[videoblogging] Re: getting i-tunes feed

2005-08-04 Thread johngaltsjournal




All thank Peter the Sweaty AutoMagician!!

schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com

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Re: [videoblogging] getting i-tunes feed

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



hey-
this doesnt apply to media and blogs you have hosted elswhere (not yet
at least) but videobloggers.org supports the creation of iTunes xml and
all other flavors including yahoo mediaRSS etc...
you can create media albums, upload media and have all these xml feeds available to you... 

just an fyi. though it doesnt help you like feedburner or
mefeedia can with your current hosted vlogs. soon, you can mix remotely
hosted media links together with locally hosted media inside the media
albums so that would cover everything ;-)

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[videoblogging] videoblogger presentations at apple stores - a short video conference

2005-08-04 Thread Markus Sandy






There have been some great responses to the recent NYC and SF "Meet the
Vloggers" events.

  Here is a post on the socialsoftwareblog:
http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000773052623/
  NPR covered the event and recently interviewed Jay and Ryanne,
Schlomo, Rene and others
  
  An attendee has started vlogging: http://cirne.blogspot.com/
(welcome Enric!)
  
  An iLife marketing manager from Apple came to the SF presentation
and spoke with Michael Verdi. Michael has sent a follow up email and
received a reply indicating the presentation was "terrific" and that
they are already exploring how this might be "expanded" to more stores.

As several people are interested in these presentations, I have setup a
video conference to discuss this.
I have reserved a "room" from 1pm-2pm PST = 4pm-5pm EDT today

http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=b27552-1507

The agenda is to discuss how we might best coordinate apple store
presentations and interact with Apple.
I hope Michael Verdi and Steve Garfield can attend as they have been
instrumental in setting up these events and have spoke with people from
Apple.

I am cross-posting this to both the meetthevloggers and videoblogging
groups

I realize this is somewhat short notice, but things are happening fast
these days as several folks have pointed out before.

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Re: [videoblogging] videoblogger presentations at apple stores - a short video conference

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Verdi




I'll be there 5 - 10 minutes late.
-Verdi

On Aug 4, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Markus Sandy wrote:

 There have been some great responses to the recent NYC and SF Meet 
 the Vloggers events.
 Here is a post on the socialsoftwareblog: http:// 
 socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000773052623/
 NPR covered the event and recently interviewed Jay and Ryanne, 
 Schlomo, Rene and others
 An attendee has started vlogging: http://cirne.blogspot.com/ 
 (welcome Enric!)
 An iLife marketing manager from Apple came to the SF presentation 
 and spoke with Michael Verdi. Michael has sent a follow up email 
 and received a reply indicating the presentation was terrific and 
 that they are already exploring how this might be expanded to 
 more stores.
 As several people are interested in these presentations, I have 
 setup a video conference to discuss this.
 I have reserved a room from 1pm-2pm PST = 4pm-5pm EDT today

 http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=b27552-1507

 The agenda is to discuss how we might best coordinate apple store 
 presentations and interact with Apple.
 I hope Michael Verdi and Steve Garfield can attend as they have 
 been instrumental in setting up these events and have spoke with 
 people from Apple.

 I am cross-posting this to both the meetthevloggers and 
 videoblogging groups

 I realize this is somewhat short notice, but things are happening 
 fast these days as several folks have pointed out before.

 Markus

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Re: [videoblogging] videoblogger presentations at apple stores - a short video conference

2005-08-04 Thread Josh Paul




Ugh!

I'm on site with a client and will be unable to attend the meeting. Please, someone, make the archive available for my reference.

Thanks.

- josh

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There have been some great responses to the recent NYC and SF "Meet the
Vloggers" events.

  Here is a post on the socialsoftwareblog:
http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000773052623/
  NPR covered the event and recently interviewed Jay and Ryanne,
Schlomo, Rene and others
  
  An attendee has started vlogging: http://cirne.blogspot.com/
(welcome Enric!)
  
  An iLife marketing manager from Apple came to the SF presentation
and spoke with Michael Verdi. Michael has sent a follow up email and
received a reply indicating the presentation was "terrific" and that
they are already exploring how this might be "expanded" to more stores.

As several people are interested in these presentations, I have setup a
video conference to discuss this.
I have reserved a "room" from 1pm-2pm PST = 4pm-5pm EDT today

http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=b27552-1507

The agenda is to discuss how we might best coordinate apple store
presentations and interact with Apple.
I hope Michael Verdi and Steve Garfield can attend as they have been
instrumental in setting up these events and have spoke with people from
Apple.

I am cross-posting this to both the meetthevloggers and videoblogging
groups

I realize this is somewhat short notice, but things are happening fast
these days as several folks have pointed out before.

Markus

-- 

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http://apperceptions.org
http://spinflow.org
http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com
http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com
http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] videoblogger presentations at apple stores - a short video conference

2005-08-04 Thread Stephanie Bryant




I'm also unable to attend, since I work during the day.

Markus-- any chance of doing a vconference later?

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 Ugh!
 
 I'm on site with a client and will be unable to attend the meeting. Please,
 someone, make the archive available for my reference.

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Re: [videoblogging] rhizome 1.2

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 05:23:15 +0200, Adrian Miles 
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 made changes to the rhizome movie. Andreas has also written a way
 cool thingie to autogenerate a xml file, however will be a while
 longer before i figure out how to read multiple entries from xml

Yeah, small steps forwards :o)

 I've spruced up the first rhizome movie template so that now it reads
 its associated XML file.

The short version: You need create an XML file called rhizome.xml to use 
this new version of Adrian's template. This is very good news because it 
means you can seamlessly include the videos of others in your rhizome 
movie. At the same time it also allows you to use the Rhizome along with 
IA/Ourmedia. Before that wasn't possible because the movie had to be 
located in a special folder.

Anyway, creating XML by hand is boring so if you want to play with 
Adrian's template the easy way go to:

URL: http://www.videoblogging.info/tools/rhizome12/ 

Enter the locations of your two movies and you'll get the rhizome.xml you 
need in return. Then download Adrian's package and replace his rhizome.xml 
with your rhizome.xml. Upload to your webserver (these files are tiny, so 
don't bother with IA) and you're done.

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[videoblogging] Re: videoblogger presentations at apple stores - a short video conference

2005-08-04 Thread David Meade




A Chicago event is in the works so I'd love to join this, but I wont
be able to make that time sadly as it's during business hours.

- Dave

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There have been some great responses to the recent NYC and SF Meet the 
 Vloggers events.
 
 * Here is a post on the socialsoftwareblog:
 http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000773052623/
 * NPR covered the event and recently interviewed Jay and Ryanne,
 Schlomo, Rene and others
 * An attendee has started vlogging: http://cirne.blogspot.com/
 (welcome Enric!)
 * An iLife marketing manager from Apple came to the SF presentation
 and spoke with Michael Verdi. Michael has sent a follow up email
 and received a reply indicating the presentation was terrific
 and that they are already exploring how this might be expanded
 to more stores.
 
 As several people are interested in these presentations, I have setup a 
 video conference to discuss this.
 I have reserved a room from 1pm-2pm PST = 4pm-5pm EDT today
 
 http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=b27552-1507
 
 The agenda is to discuss how we might best coordinate apple store 
 presentations and interact with Apple.
 I hope Michael Verdi and Steve Garfield can attend as they have been 
 instrumental in setting up these events and have spoke with people from 
 Apple.
 
 I am cross-posting this to both the meetthevloggers and
videoblogging groups
 
 I realize this is somewhat short notice, but things are happening fast 
 these days as several folks have pointed out before.
 
 Markus
 
 -- 
 
 My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us
 http://apperceptions.org
 http://spinflow.org
 http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com
 http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com
 http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Joshua Kinberg




You know I'm only joking when I say something like this is retarded
(i never said *you* were retarded :-)

 What is needed for this to happen is a standardized data format. Only if
 you have a standard format can this work. I've mentioned xFolk more than
 once to you because xFolk is what can take this to the next level where I
 can tag *any* page on the web on my own blog.

This is the problem. Not everyone is a blogger. Tags do not and should
not revolve around bloggers.

xFolk is still too complicated for anyone to use -- its really hard to
write by hand, tough to generate through automation, and even harder
to spider and aggregate. Besides, the spec is not settled yet so there
is no reason to adopt it at this point. It may see its day, but it is
not usable now. xFolk is simply a spec, but it is not a spec that is
in use, and that is what makes all the difference. Something easier
could come along and blow xFolk out of the water (Technorati-style
tags are way way easier, so for now that's my preference. Plus
Technorati considers the Category element in RSS as a tag too, so it
works with existing standards -- Hallelujah!).

 the information is *free*. Then you can talk about having a basis
 for innovation - collecting the data is no longer the issue. You can focus
 on Doing Cool Stuff.

What I envision is more of a tagging ping service. Not unlike blog
ping services. Something that lets you notify when tags are created,
what is tagged, who tagged it, where is it tagged, and what the tag
is. This is simple enough, built on existing protocols and could
enable new types of tools and services.

This is not too different from what Technorati is already doing,
except they aren't really providing their aggregated data back to the
community either, so their service isn't as open as you claim -- its
accessed through an API the same way Flickr and Delicious are.
At the end of the day, you do need to retain some kind of value in
your service otherwise there is no incentive to provide services.

This ecology of tools and services must also sustain an economy.

-Josh


 I'm still in control of my
 tags because they're on my own blog. Unlike Flickr, where Flickr is in
 control of my tags. With an adoption of xFolk you can't have a monopoly
 like Flickr. Any teenager with a computer can write a competing service
 because the information is *free*. Then you can talk about having a basis
 for innovation - collecting the data is no longer the issue. You can focus
 on Doing Cool Stuff.



On 8/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:00:12 +0200, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  And that place should first and foremost be on your own blog. Brownie
  points to mefeedia for wanting to support technorati-style tagging.
 
  Sorry Andreas, this is retarded. Why can't your
  viewers/readers/audience tag stuff too. Tags are not only for authors.
  This is what makes tagging interesting. This is why Del.icio.us is so
  freaking cool.
 
 I said first and foremost, not only. :o)
 
 I have to admit before I continue that my prior e-mail as vague as it was
 had as its primary goal to bait you into the conversation. I was hoping
 that you'd take offense. It's a rhetorical strategy because now I can
 write about how I really feel and at the same time present myself as some
 pseudo father figure (or in layman's terms: A know-it-all). But since you
 called me retarded I think we're even now. :o)
 
 Two warnings: I'm going to swear at least once, and I'm going to tell you
 that Flickr is evil.
 
 Technorati-style tagging is nice. And it's a really good start - you have
 to agree with me on that. The ability for an author to tag his own blog
 posts with keywords is powerful and shouldn't be belittled. However as you
 point out it's not the complete picture. The next step is to allow for a
 person to tag *any* URL.
 
 You hail delicious for doing that, and we can safely lump Flickr in the
 same group. They both allow for tagging of other people's stuff. But at
 the same time they break the first rule of not being an evil corporation.
 They compete on data submission. Never, ever compete on fucking data
 submission. Delicious is better than Flickr in this regard. I can tag any
 URL at delicious, but I still have to be a member. At Flickr I'm
 completely locked in - it's their whole business model. I have to be a
 member to tag content, and I have to be a member if I want my content
 tagged. And here's the kicker: If I don't pay up I'm only allowed X number
 of photos. Great, now I have to *pay* to be a part of the network. Fuck
 that.
 
 Information should be free. Corporations should not compete on who has the
 best data (because information should be free, damnit!). They should
 compete on what they do with the data.
 
 And *that's* why the tagging should happen on people's blogs and not under
 the control of some company. Peter might be open up his tag data today,
 but when some other entity 

Re: [videoblogging] videoblogger presentations at apple stores - a short video conference

2005-08-04 Thread Stephanie Bryant




Well, I don't know about others, Markus, but 1 PM is right smack dab
in the middle of the workday for me. I mean, it would be hard to find
a less convenient time (but don't test that).

How about after 5 (or 6) PDT? Or 1 PM on a weekend? Or just set it as
a topic for next Tuesday's videoconference? [Not that I will likely be
there either-- 5 PM is not an easy time for me anyway, since I'm
usually just home from work and decompressing from my drive, but I can
at least try if I know there's an interesting topic at hand though
next week I may be up in San Francisco at LinuxWorld anyway]

When can Steve or Michael attend? If you think it a priority for them
to be there, perhaps it would be helpful to understand why this time
only works for them.

--Stephanie

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



wouldnt pinging + millions of taggings be a bit too intensive, somewhere?
and where would that somewhere be?
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What I envision is more of a tagging ping service. Not unlike blogping services. Something that lets you notify when tags are created,what is tagged, who tagged it, where is it tagged, and what the tag
is. This is simple enough, built on existing protocols and couldenable new types of tools and services.
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[videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book (was: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end)

2005-08-04 Thread Jay dedman




 Somebody Will be writing the first book about vlogging (isn't IDG
 working on it already behind the scene?), there will be a Vlogging
 for Dummies book before the end of this year or perhaps early 06, and
 there will be all kinds of tutorials out there. The good thing, for
 me, is that FreeVlog is as ambitious as it is, and because of the
 early 'market penetration' of Michael Verdi and Ryanne Hodson with
 this project, I think that Freevlog also in the future will be one of
 the most linked-to tutorials to videoblogging. I love the ethos of
 Michael Verdi and Ryanne Hodson, and I hope that when the money comes
 (because it Will) that they will not lose the questions.

well, the first book on videoblogging is about to be written...by all of us.
Verdi, Ryan, Kinberg and myself wrote a proposal for O'reilly last month.
They accepted.
We have 6 weeks to produce 100 hacks on videoblogging.
If we pull it off, it could be in stores by the end of the year.

So here's the deal:
Anyone interested in helping us write hacks should email me off-list.
This weekend we are setting up a wiki to show you our outline and
hacks we've thought up and already written.
If you write a hack and it gets published, you'll get 100$ a hack plus
book credit.

Verdi, Ryan, Kinberg and myself are putting side the next 6 weeks to
write this book.
But we want it to be a collaborative process, paid and credited.
The combined intelligence of this group is incredible.
I would love for this book to reflect all the experience that we have
gathered in the past year.

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book (was: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end)

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



woops, i already wrote it. 
would you like a signed copy?

sullOn 8/4/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Somebody Will be writing the first book about vlogging (isn't IDG working on it already behind the scene?), there will be a Vlogging for Dummies book before the end of this year or perhaps early 06, and
 there will be all kinds of tutorials out there. The good thing, for me, is that FreeVlog is as ambitious as it is, and because of the early 'market penetration' of Michael Verdi and Ryanne Hodson with
 this project, I think that Freevlog also in the future will be one of the most linked-to tutorials to videoblogging. I love the ethos of Michael Verdi and Ryanne Hodson, and I hope that when the money comes
 (because it Will) that they will not lose the questions.well, the first book on videoblogging is about to be written...by all of us.Verdi, Ryan, Kinberg and myself wrote a proposal for O'reilly last month.
They accepted.We have 6 weeks to produce 100 hacks on videoblogging.If we pull it off, it could be in stores by the end of the year.So here's the deal:Anyone interested in helping us write hacks should email me off-list.
This weekend we are setting up a wiki to show you our outline andhacks we've thought up and already written.If you write a hack and it gets published, you'll get 100$ a hack plusbook credit.Verdi, Ryan, Kinberg and myself are putting side the next 6 weeks to
write this book.But we want it to be a collaborative process, paid and credited.The combined intelligence of this group is incredible.I would love for this book to reflect all the experience that we have
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[videoblogging] Windows Software Tools for a New Videoblogger?

2005-08-04 Thread Harold Johnson




Hi all,

I've been subscribed to this group for a long time, but I've rarely
posted. I'm something of a lurker, I suppose. I've been considering
delving into videoblogging, and now that I have access to a new
Windows PC, I'd like to play with some videoblogging software. What
type of software for Windows is best? I'm extremely low-budget,
usually preferring open source and free tools. Here are my specs:

Windows XP-based notebook
Celeron M processor
512MB RAM

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book (was: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end)

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



seriously though... this should be an eBook... downloadable No?
easily updatable since things move so fast and some things become obsolete.
and it would have bene cool if this was tried on an independent publishing approach sell or give away via the internet.
optional printed copies on request.

anyways... i'll check the wiki i'm wondering what vlog hack is ;-)

sull
On 8/4/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
woops, i already wrote it. 
would you like a signed copy?

sullOn 8/4/05, Jay dedman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Somebody Will be writing the first book about vlogging (isn't IDG working on it already behind the scene?), there will be a Vlogging for Dummies book before the end of this year or perhaps early 06, and
 there will be all kinds of tutorials out there. The good thing, for me, is that FreeVlog is as ambitious as it is, and because of the early 'market penetration' of Michael Verdi and Ryanne Hodson with
 this project, I think that Freevlog also in the future will be one of the most linked-to tutorials to videoblogging. I love the ethos of Michael Verdi and Ryanne Hodson, and I hope that when the money comes
 (because it Will) that they will not lose the questions.well, the first book on videoblogging is about to be written...by all of us.Verdi, Ryan, Kinberg and myself wrote a proposal for O'reilly last month.
They accepted.We have 6 weeks to produce 100 hacks on videoblogging.If we pull it off, it could be in stores by the end of the year.So here's the deal:Anyone interested in helping us write hacks should email me off-list.
This weekend we are setting up a wiki to show you our outline andhacks we've thought up and already written.If you write a hack and it gets published, you'll get 100$ a hack plusbook credit.Verdi, Ryan, Kinberg and myself are putting side the next 6 weeks to
write this book.But we want it to be a collaborative process, paid and credited.The combined intelligence of this group is incredible.I would love for this book to reflect all the experience that we have

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Joshua Kinberg




Is pinging + millions of weblogs too intensive?

-Josh


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 wouldnt pinging + millions of taggings be a bit too intensive, somewhere?
 and where would that somewhere be?
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread Jay dedman




 Some of us vloggers will make big money on doing this. Some people
 will make zillions on offering personalized consultancy for companies
 that want to jack into the next big thing (and we all know vlogging IS
 the next big thing, regardless of the millions of people who prefer to
 listen to the radio/podcast while on the road)
 
 So what I Hope happens is that even when the innocence is gone, we can
 play along. Play nice, and do business without suddenly going
 'Business is business' and becoming all cynical.

 Let us remember that we all have good intentions. Also, let us not
 close our eyes to what is going on.

I like raymond's email.
I also gave pause when i saw steve's post about putting ads in a videoblog.
The time is coming. 

I think its funny that this group gets a reputation for being against
money...as if its an all or nothing game. We are all adults who work
jobs and have careers and are planning for the future.
I guess people balk because we have conversations that there may be
something more interesting than money.

Many of you know why I got into videoblogging:
to feel connection.
Through little videos on my computer, i can see your world wherever
you are in the way you want to show me.
we can speak to each other unmediated.
for whatever its worth, its still important to me.

This weekend, i realized there are two kind of videoblogs developing.
One is the Rocketboom model.
Its a brilliant use of RSS technology...delivering short, regular
videos in a predictable format to the entire world.
Usually these videos are topical. Like TV, fresh content is a must.
As Andrew Barron says, you can now compete with cable networks that
only get 100,000 viewers. So why not get advertising if youre putting
that much work into it and getting huge audiences?

The other model is the personal videoblog.
Videos are in no format or theme.
Videos are posted irregularly.
Videos vary in length.
Videos are meant for a small group of people, usually friends and family.
Personal videoblogs usually grow in value as time passes.

So lets remember these models as we move into the craziness that is developing.
Both are equally valid.
When a new person comes onto the scene, a choice is made.
--are you trying to use videoblogging to challenge traditonal TV
distribution...spending lots of time creating regular
programming...and seeking revenue for your efforts?
--or are you simply wanting to document something that's important to
you...no hassle...making videoblogging as a part of your daily life?

I'd like to hear what you have to say on this matter.

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Re: [videoblogging] The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread Josh Leo



What about thos of us who make personal videos, post irregularly, are
seeking to share their lives with others and challenge the content of
media. Those of us who got into this as a hobby, a creative outlet, but
wouldn't mind turning a buck if those original intentions/ideals/values
weren't lost?

I have a secure job, I don't need vlogging to be my source of income.
But, getting paid for my creative content would be fantastic! Perhaps
someday making video blogging my job (as long as I was doing what I
wanted to do, as long as I am having fun, and as long as I don't feel
as though i am compromising myself in any aspect) then yes, I would
love to do it as a profession. I am not seeking it out, but if
opportunities arise, I welcome them with open arms.On 8/4/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So lets remember these models as we move into the craziness that is developing.
Both are equally valid.When a new person comes onto the scene, a choice is made.--are you trying to use videoblogging to challenge traditonal TVdistribution...spending lots of time creating regularprogramming...and seeking revenue for your efforts?
--or are you simply wanting to document something that's important toyou...no hassle...making videoblogging as a part of your daily life?
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[videoblogging] spokane, washington's newspaper has a video blog

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Meiser




I just stumbled upon this. It's the Spokesman Review Newspaper's Video 
blog.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/video/

Video stories on fires, wild moose running around, the harry potter 
book priemere, charity events and more.

Looks like it's been going on since May 1st.

The RSS feed is RSS 2.0 but no enclosures.

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread Jay dedman




 Of all their formats they could have chosen to put you in, the 100 Hacks
 format is definitely not the right one. I would have thought O'Reilly
 would have been more clueful than that, oh well. Congratulations on the
 book deal.

why dont you think its the correct format?
if you look at the new Digital Video hacks by Josh-Paul(on this
list)...he lays out the basics...and then gets into all the cool added
stuff you can do.

With videoblogging, all you need is freevlog to get started.
everything else is just extra.
hacks.
Andreas's QT thingie for example.
I think your linking hack would be perfect.

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Re: [videoblogging] The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread Jay dedman




 I would say that you have identified two extremely extreme scenarios
 and that almost all videoblogs, including yours and Rocketboom, share
 from both of those approaches and many other ones too.

exceptions are the rule.
but you dont see these two scenarios standing out?

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Re: [videoblogging] VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)




Hi everyone:
At 10:48 AM 8/4/2005, you wrote:
Stop by my mom's house! It's
a campground with three lakes on Highway
H near Turney (about 8 miles from Cameron-- not really Central, but
Northwest).
I *would've* had the thing not crashed on me right around I-40  I-85
North of Knoxville. :-( *Grrr*
Now I'm headed over to Anti's place in Redondo Beach (Decided I'd get a
look at those beautiful mountains of ours in Google Earth :-) ).
Cheers for now everyone :-)
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[videoblogging] Re: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread Chuck Olsen




Right... I think Minnesota Stories is a bit of a hybrid. I also don't
want to box it in or overly define it right now. It's young (1 month
old!). It feels personal when I make something, and when other
people contribute their video it's personal to them (usually). It's a
conduit for stories, often personal and creative. 

Yet it's also a daily videoblog that challenges broadcast media.
And I hope to God it makes money, otherwise I doubt I can sustain it.

I think there a lot of people like Josh Leo would are doing something
personal, but sure wouldn't mind making it a regular money-making
form of _expression_. If you post more regularly, you'll probably have a
bigger audience, and probably make more money from ads. So it sort
of scales to however ambitious you are.

Yep... good post Raymond. 

(Hmm, do I know any videoblogging hacks? Maybe content or
compression?)

cheers,
Chuck

http://mnstories.com
http://secretvlog.com
http://blogumentary.typepad.com

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scenarios 
 and that almost all videoblogs, including yours and Rocketboom,
share 
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[videoblogging] Re: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread jadly6




In any case...For whatever reason you've gotten into videoblogging,
podcasting, a band whatever...Let the creative juices flow, and If you
stay true to yourself, the rest will come.

JaDonnelly
www.madpod.com
www.dummycast.com
www.madlymedia.com
www.moonvideo.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would say that you have identified two extremely extreme scenarios 
 and that almost all videoblogs, including yours and Rocketboom, share 
 from both of those approaches and many other ones too.
 
 
 On Aug 4, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
 
  Some of us vloggers will make big money on doing this. Some people
  will make zillions on offering personalized consultancy for companies
  that want to jack into the next big thing (and we all know 
  vlogging IS
  the next big thing, regardless of the millions of people who 
  prefer to
  listen to the radio/podcast while on the road)
 
  So what I Hope happens is that even when the innocence is gone, we 
  can
  play along. Play nice, and do business without suddenly going
  'Business is business' and becoming all cynical.
 
 
 
  Let us remember that we all have good intentions. Also, let us not
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Re: [videoblogging] The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread Josh Paul




Look at podcasting...just wait until traditional media jumps in.

We'll all have our different approaches, from the youngest person videoblogging to stay in touch with family in another country, to the largest corporation trying to garner as many eyeballs as it can (worldwide!). People will make money by producing content, software, hardware, hosting, etc. Others will produce content for the sheer joy of it, knowing they have access to the production tools and distribution system that has been out of reach for too long.

In all cases though, the world will become smaller and more connected, and everyone will (hopefully) have the opportunity to contribute criticism, news, and entertainment to anyone, anywhere, at anytime.

It puts a smile on my face. Define it however you want. I'm just excited to see it happening.

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I would say that you have identified two extremely extreme scenarios 
and that almost all videoblogs, including yours and Rocketboom, share 
from both of those approaches and many other ones too.


On Aug 4, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 Some of us vloggers will make big money on doing this. Some people
 will make zillions on offering personalized consultancy for companies
 that want to jack into the next big thing (and we all know 
 vlogging IS
 the next big thing, regardless of the millions of people who 
 prefer to
 listen to the radio/podcast while on the road)

 So what I Hope happens is that even when the innocence is gone, we 
 can
 play along. Play nice, and do business without suddenly going
 'Business is business' and becoming all cynical.



 Let us remember that we all have good intentions. Also, let us not
 close our eyes to what is going on.





  










[videoblogging] Re: The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread jonny goldstein




Congrats on the book. Maybe I can do a twinkie hack?

Funny, in the comedy world, a hack is comedian w/no talent who goes for the easy laugh, 
whereas in the tech world a hack is a clever maneuver to solve a problem. Words are 
funny! 

I'd like to see a 100 hacks book about horrible comedians! 1) Jay Leno 2) Pauly Shore 3) 




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Of all their formats they could have chosen to put you in, the 100 Hacks
  format is definitely not the right one. I would have thought O'Reilly
  would have been more clueful than that, oh well. Congratulations on the
  book deal.
 
 why dont you think its the correct format?
 if you look at the new Digital Video hacks by Josh-Paul(on this
 list)...he lays out the basics...and then gets into all the cool added
 stuff you can do.
 
 With videoblogging, all you need is freevlog to get started.
 everything else is just extra.
 hacks.
 Andreas's QT thingie for example.
 I think your linking hack would be perfect.
 
 Jay
 
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Re: [videoblogging] The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread Devlon




 I'd like to hear what you have to say on this matter.
 
 Jay

For me, it's a 33/33/33 thing. 

I have always been an artist deep down (sure that's subjective..) and
I do enjoy this new medium that I can play with and find new ways to
express myself or just make something that I think is cool. I think
of it as art.

The other 33 is the archival side of it. I love the idea that I can
sit down when I am 60 and watch a whack of videos I made 30 years
earlier. Where was I, what did the town look like then...what was
life like without the flying cars (aren't we supposed to have those by
now?) Or my son can watch and show his children.

And the last 33 is to show what life is like where I live, what we do
for fun, what I think is interesting, etc. A glimpse into 'my world'.

I haven't utilized the rel=payment thing since I don't have a use for
it. I can always use more money, don't get me wrong, but I don't see
the value in what I produce measured in dollars. If someone
approached me and said, 'man, I love that pigeon thing you did' (come
on you all loved it...) 'can I pay you for it?'. I would question
their sanity since it is available free online, have at 'er.

For me, feedback and comments is the only currency I am looking to
fill my pockets with. But that's just my motivation.

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book (was: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end)

2005-08-04 Thread Jay dedman




 seriously though... this should be an eBook... downloadable No?
 easily updatable since things move so fast and some things become obsolete.
 and it would have bene cool if this was tried on an independent publishing
 approach sell or give away via the internet.
 optional printed copies on request. 
 anyways... i'll check the wiki i'm wondering what vlog hack is ;-)

for those of you unfamiliar with the O'reilly hack series...check it out:
http://hacks.oreilly.com/
I hear you about independent publishingbut you cant beat the
distribution by a technical publisher like O'reilly

There will be other books written on videoblogging.
this is the first...and it might as well be written by us.
I think the hack format is great because its perfect for collaboration.
many of us can write individual hacks and have it be coherent.

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[videoblogging] Re: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread LeanBackVids.com




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Look at podcasting...just wait until traditional media jumps in.
 
 It puts a smile on my face. Define it however you want. I'm just
excited to see it happening.
 

Exactly. This is no different than when everyone was impowered to
publish text on the web. Not everyone was a good writer, but everyone
had the ability to publish. Same is happening with podcasts.

Some are good, some are bad, some get heard, some go unnoticed.

This still happens every day with text, photos, podcasts and will
continue with video blogs. Lets just enjoy the ride for the next few
months.

Once we get a our feeds on an iPod it will blow up.

Until then, I'll keep reminding people to check out my site(s)...

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[videoblogging] Re: The first Videoblogging book (was: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an

2005-08-04 Thread LeanBackVids.com




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 for those of you unfamiliar with the O'reilly hack series...check it
out:
 http://hacks.oreilly.com/
 I hear you about independent publishingbut you cant beat the
 distribution by a technical publisher like O'reilly

O'Reilly is the most respected book publisher in the tech community. 
It is an honor to our community that they want to help put out a book.

They revitalized their business with the hacks series and it is
(currently) the most popular format.

Congrats to those who will get mentioned.

Don't hate those who make money.

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Re: [videoblogging] The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end

2005-08-04 Thread andrew michael baron





On Aug 4, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 exceptions are the rule.
 but you dont see these two scenarios standing out?

 jay

No, I don't. What I see is everyone sharing the same quality of 
wanting to share their video creations with other people. Those of us 
who like it so much that we want to spend all of our time doing it, 
obviously need to think about how we can make money at it because 
there is no time to make money doing anything else.


 I would say that you have identified two extremely extreme scenarios
 and that almost all videoblogs, including yours and Rocketboom, share
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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book (was: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end)

2005-08-04 Thread Josh Paul




Okay, I'm a little biased so feel free to take this post with a grain of salt. But, even before I wrote for O'Reilly, I had more of their (his?) books than I could count off the top of my head. The distribution is wide, the quality is high, and there's definitely a level of respect and validation given to the titles. Not to mention the amount of support the company provides its authors (I've spoken to people who've written for other publishers).

I think the Hacks series is great, I own at least four of them, and I think it is also one of their more popular series. So, it makes sense to me that they put Video Blogging there. The more people who get involved, the better. Right?

I'm hoping that those who contribute are able to push themselves and this new medium to even greater heights.

Again, I'm just excited to see it all happening.

- josh
 
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 seriously though... this should be an eBook... downloadable No?
 easily updatable since things move so fast and some things become obsolete.
 and it would have bene cool if this was tried on an independent publishing
 approach sell or give away via the internet.
 optional printed copies on request. 
 anyways... i'll check the wiki i'm wondering what vlog hack is ;-)

for those of you unfamiliar with the O'reilly hack series...check it out:
http://hacks.oreilly.com/
I hear you about independent publishingbut you cant beat the
distribution by a technical publisher like O'reilly

There will be other books written on videoblogging.
this is the first...and it might as well be written by us.
I think the hack format is great because its perfect for collaboration.
many of us can write individual hacks and have it be coherent.

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread Clint Sharp




Jay dedman wrote:


 why dont you think its the correct format?
 if you look at the new Digital Video hacks by Josh-Paul(on this
 list)...he lays out the basics...and then gets into all the cool added
 stuff you can do.

 With videoblogging, all you need is freevlog to get started.
 everything else is just extra.
 hacks.
 Andreas's QT thingie for example.
 I think your linking hack would be perfect.

 Jay

 -- 
 URL: http://www.momentshowing.net
 Adventures in Videoblogging


A hack implies there's an established way to do something that you have 
now found an alternative way of doing. Usually you've done it 
surripticiously (sp?), without the manufacturers knowledge or consent. 
In this case, there is no established ways of doing a vlog yet, so 
there's really not much to hack. I mean, I think it's cool in the fact 
that there's 100 of them and different people will contribute, it's just 
the labeling of what's going to be in there as Hacks a little 
misleading. I felt like a good howto book would be better, something 
that won't be so broken up. Basically Freevlog in book form. However, 
the fact that you guys are writing it is ubercool.

Clint


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Re: [videoblogging] VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread Anders Clerwall




On 8/4/05, Tim D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt - awesome. Thanks for setting this up!

I don't like advertising my vlog or its posts, but I got inspired when
I played around with this in google earth and I created this:
http://randomshow.com/archives/9-Wonderful-World.html

Thanks again, Matt, this is awesome!

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Sullivan



ok, now i know what hacks means in this context...
i dont know that their can be 100 vlog hacks. i suppose..
more likely, you can come up with 100 DV hacks or Web Dev hacks or Hardware hacks.. which are all vlog related.
for a first book, i dont think this is the right genre... but its not really a bad thing either... all good.

congrats on the approval more attention, more legitimacy. 
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[videoblogging] The Internet 10 Years Ago..Will it surpass the VCR..

2005-08-04 Thread jadly6




I don't know if you guys saw my post from yesterday, But, this puts
things into perspective in how fast things are moving.
On my Vblog www.dummycast.com, I have a story I did 10 years ago about
an internet cafe in PA, at the time.. it was one of 5 in the entire world!
One of the questions brought up in the story was Do you think the
desktop computer will last... and surpass the VCR in popularity..
... gee...

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread R. Kristiansen




On 8/4/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok, now i know what hacks means in this context...
 i dont know that their can be 100 vlog hacks. i suppose..
 more likely, you can come up with 100 DV hacks or Web Dev hacks or Hardware
 hacks.. which are all vlog related.
 for a first book, i dont think this is the right genre... but its not
 really a bad thing either... all good.

This book title/theme just shows how frigging clueless they are. 100
hacks? How many of those will NOT be DV hacks?

Videoblogging hacks: Does pretending that you are doing crack and
getting your children taken away count as a hack?

Does Sending out a sound, and then someone else remixes that sound
count as a hack?

Does Staying up till 4 AM watching videos from around the world
count as hacks?

However, the team on this book are top top ace, and I know they will
make a wonder out of it, just like those best actors will be able to
make great movies even with a terrible script.

Congratulations :)

Best, 

Raymond M. Kristiansen
- A Proud Norwegian Videoblogger






  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread Michael Verdi




On Aug 4, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Clint Sharp wrote:

 A hack implies there's an established way to do something that you 
 have
 now found an alternative way of doing. Usually you've done it
 surripticiously (sp?), without the manufacturers knowledge or consent.
 In this case, there is no established ways of doing a vlog yet, so
 there's really not much to hack. I mean, I think it's cool in the 
 fact
 that there's 100 of them and different people will contribute, it's 
 just
 the labeling of what's going to be in there as Hacks a little
 misleading. I felt like a good howto book would be better, something
 that won't be so broken up.

Hey Clint,
I kind of thought this at first too. Here's something from 
O'Reilly's website that changed my mind:

--
The difference between computer hackers and ordinary users is that 
hackers are always trying something new, something we may not yet 
know how to do, whether it is for solving an urgent problem, feeling 
the joy of pushing boundaries, or just, as the poet Wallace Stevens 
once said, searching the possible for its possibleness. We 
experiment, we try things. We ask our friends what works for them 
when we hit a snag. We have fun with this wonderfully complex 
toolmaking tool, the computer.

We've always wanted to publish books that capture the essence of the 
hacker experience. Our animal books embody all the knowledge of a 
single expert. But we've always wanted a format that made it easy to 
present lots of small but useful tidbits--tips, tricks, and dare we 
say, hacks. Our first crack at this problem came in 1993, when Tim 
edited and co-authored a book entitled Unix Power Tools. Tim 
conceived it in the early days of the World Wide Web as a kind of 
hypertext in print that would make it possible to present a 
collection of tips harvested from the Net and from a community of 
experts, in a way that was both easy to search and fun to explore.

Unix Power Tools went on to sell several hundred thousand copies, and 
we've heard from many readers that it's their all-time favorite 
computer book. Nevertheless, despite several attempts, we've never 
followed it up with more books in the same format. We just couldn't 
find authors who had the time or encyclopedic depth of knowledge to 
pull off a massive tome containing thousands of tips and tools.

Recently though, Dale Dougherty and Rael Dornfest independently 
reinvented a book with a very similar format. It started out with the 
idea for a focused collection of Google hacks - advanced search 
techniques, scripts for driving the Google API and tips from search 
experts. We soon realized that the format they were working on was 
very similar to Unix Power Tools, but by choosing narrower topics, 
they were able to make the projects more manageable. What's more, 
with the Web now widespread, the books could actually be developed as 
a collaborative authoring project using a shared private weblog.
---

I think you could look at videoblogging in general as a hack. Blogs, 
RSS, the Internet, etc. were not built to distribute video. We're 
all experimenting here.

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread R. Kristiansen




On 8/4/05, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/4/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ok, now i know what hacks means in this context...
  i dont know that their can be 100 vlog hacks. i suppose..
  more likely, you can come up with 100 DV hacks or Web Dev hacks or Hardware
  hacks.. which are all vlog related.
  for a first book, i dont think this is the right genre... but its not
  really a bad thing either... all good.
 
 This book title/theme just shows how frigging clueless they are. 100
 hacks? How many of those will NOT be DV hacks?

Ok, i will go and wash my mouth with soap and vlog it right now. I
took a look at the site, and the fact that you guys are opening up a
wiki for this and opening it up for the community is great. I will see
what I can chip in from a windows XP perspective. It's not going to be
a mac only book, right? *shiver*

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[videoblogging] Re: VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread LeanBackVids.com




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Anders Clerwall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/4/05, Tim D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Matt - awesome. Thanks for setting this up!
 
 I don't like advertising my vlog or its posts, but I got inspired when
 I played around with this in google earth and I created this:
 http://randomshow.com/archives/9-Wonderful-World.html
 
 Thanks again, Matt, this is awesome!


I love it! Any chance you could post a bigger (hi-res) version of
this? I'd like to show this at the Seattle Meet the Vloggers event
this Saturday.

Thanks, Matt
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread Anders Clerwall




On 8/4/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I love it! Any chance you could post a bigger (hi-res) version of
 this? I'd like to show this at the Seattle Meet the Vloggers event
 this Saturday.

I could probably make a 640x480 version by then.
And encode with higher bitrate.
Glad you liked it!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Drive-by Tagging

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 20:33:30 +0200, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 You know I'm only joking when I say something like this is retarded
 (i never said *you* were retarded :-)

Touché. :o)
Fortunately we're all friends here!

 What is needed for this to happen is a standardized data format. Only if
 you have a standard format can this work. I've mentioned xFolk more than
 once to you because xFolk is what can take this to the next level where 
 I
 can tag *any* page on the web on my own blog.

 This is the problem. Not everyone is a blogger. Tags do not and should
 not revolve around bloggers.

Yes, I mean no. You're right that not everyone is a blogger. Not everyone 
has a blog to put their tags on. But services that gives non-bloggers the 
option to tag 'stuff' should provide a public page of that person's tags 
in the same standard data format everyone else is using. The result is the 
same, there's just less use of the word blog.

 xFolk is still too complicated for anyone to use -- its really hard to
 write by hand, tough to generate through automation, and even harder
 to spider and aggregate. Besides, the spec is not settled yet so there
 is no reason to adopt it at this point. It may see its day, but it is
 not usable now. xFolk is simply a spec, but it is not a spec that is
 in use, and that is what makes all the difference. Something easier
 could come along and blow xFolk out of the water (Technorati-style
 tags are way way easier, so for now that's my preference. Plus
 Technorati considers the Category element in RSS as a tag too, so it
 works with existing standards -- Hallelujah!).

Since we're all friends here: No whining.

C'mon. We're trying to do something no one else has done. Of course the 
spec isn't done yet, and of course it's not in use. No one has done 
anything like this. If you only want to use well-established standards 
you'll never move forward. We'd all be stuck on typewriters because noone 
dared to use this new weird standard of transistors.

xFolk is xhtml. It is very easy to parse. There's what? 3 class attributes 
and a rel attribute to look out for. I can't see what could be easier for 
designating a tag for an arbitrary URL.

Technorati tags (RelTag) serves a different purpose (as you pointed out). 
With Technorati tags I can only tag pages *I* control. I can't tag one of 
your blog entries.

It's too bad Technorati uses the category element for their tag pages. 
In time I think you'll see them remove that (or so I hope). They'll fail 
for the same reason Adam pointed out meta keywords failed. They're too 
easy to fake because they're invisible.

 the information is *free*. Then you can talk about having a basis
 for innovation - collecting the data is no longer the issue. You can 
 focus
 on Doing Cool Stuff.

 What I envision is more of a tagging ping service. Not unlike blog
 ping services. Something that lets you notify when tags are created,
 what is tagged, who tagged it, where is it tagged, and what the tag
 is. This is simple enough, built on existing protocols and could
 enable new types of tools and services.

You're keeping everything in the dark with a system like that. One has to 
be a member of the elite ping club to recieve notifications of tag pings. 
No, an open data format that anyone can tap into and mine is much better.

You will probably need pings because they are efficient for letting 
services know you updated. But don't lock your tag information away. Let 
the ping help me by giving me a way of telling my favourite services that 
I've updated. But don't make the fucking data collecting your business 
model.

What's the difference between a custom tag ping and the xFolk entry? The 
tag ping is hidden away. The xFolk entry is out there free for anyone to 
tap into.

 This is not too different from what Technorati is already doing,
 except they aren't really providing their aggregated data back to the
 community either, so their service isn't as open as you claim -- its
 accessed through an API the same way Flickr and Delicious are.
 At the end of the day, you do need to retain some kind of value in
 your service otherwise there is no incentive to provide services.

You've missed my point. You don't have to rely on one company like 
Technorati to provide you with all the services you want. The data format 
is open. Write your own spider, collect the tags yourself. Do with them 
what you want.

That's what the web is built upon. You *can* build a business model around 
open data formats. Just look at the web. If it was built on the same 
principles Flickr has and you are apparently promoting we would not have 
one common web. We'd have one web for the MS Internet Explorer crowd and 
one for the Netscape crowd and you wouldn't be able to visit pages if you 
didn't use the right browser for the right page. There wouldn't even *be* 
a Firefox because there's no way it could break into the market.

- Andreas
-- 

[videoblogging] My TV

2005-08-04 Thread Roger




 This is my (3D) video response to Richard's video (Yes, we have cold
mountain streams around here, too ;-), How to Watch a Video Blog on
your TV:
 http://www.puppetkites.net/?p=17

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[videoblogging] Re: VlogMap.org Available on Google Earth

2005-08-04 Thread James A. Donnelly




Nice Job! That was great.
jadly

www.madpod.com
www.dummycast.com
www.madlymedia.com
www.moonvideo.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Anders Clerwall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/4/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I love it! Any chance you could post a bigger (hi-res) version of
  this? I'd like to show this at the Seattle Meet the Vloggers event
  this Saturday.
 
 I could probably make a 640x480 version by then.
 And encode with higher bitrate.
 Glad you liked it!
 
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 vlog: http://randomshow.com/





  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book (was: The innocence of the vlogosphere is at an end)

2005-08-04 Thread Stephanie Bryant




O'Reilly put out some of the best books in the business and treat
their writers right. You guys are lucky to get in with them. Yay!

--Stephanie

On 8/4/05, Josh Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, I'm a little biased so feel free to take this post with a grain of
 salt. But, even before I wrote for O'Reilly, I had more of their (his?)
 books than I could count off the top of my head. The distribution is wide,
 the quality is high, and there's definitely a level of respect and
 validation given to the titles. Not to mention the amount of support the
 company provides its authors (I've spoken to people who've written for other
 publishers).

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[videoblogging] Re: The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread Pete Prodoehl




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, R. Kristiansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This book title/theme just shows how frigging clueless they are. 100
 hacks? How many of those will NOT be DV hacks?

Well, I use an analog camera, so if I come up with something, it won't
be a DV hack. ;)

(I'd like to contribute, as I had to turn down the last offer to write
something for the hack series...)

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[videoblogging] Re: The World

2005-08-04 Thread Chuck Olsen





Definitely a classic!

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anders Clerwall from http://randomshow.com just made this 'instant
 classic'. At least I think this videoblog entry perfectly illustrates
 how global this community already is. Now we just need more people
 from the Middle East, Africa, Asia, The Pacific - and Antarctica :)
 
 Go watch this awesome little video:
 http://randomshow.com/archives/9-Wonderful-World.html
 (made with google earth)






  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Digest Number 963

2005-08-04 Thread millielaindia







This is where I'm learning from. I hope it helps 
you also.
http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/
 Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 12:35:52 - 
  From: "naschmult" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Blogger HTML code of 
  your own designI took an Macromedia/html course in college a few years 
  back  a lothas changed by then. I notice that a lot of people have 
  their designedblog for blogger.com.How did you modify it? 
  Where did you change the code? I think I havean idea, but I am not 
  sure if I will get the daily posting function towork correctly.So 
  can someone help me out and maybe tell me some websites that havean 
  tutorial or information for me to learn?


millielaindia.blogspot.comMember since Monday, July 25, 2005My first vblogmy 
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[videoblogging] Video thumbs galore

2005-08-04 Thread petertheman




Sorry for the plug - I launched a new feature today that I thought I
should mention here:

http://mefeedia.com/help/_javascript_/feedthumbs.php

It lets you add random amounts of thumbnails (linking to the
permalink) of any feed to your blog. So you can do an archive, a
sidebar with the latest x videos, and so on. What do you guys think?

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[videoblogging] Re: off on a (valuation) tangent

2005-08-04 Thread johngaltsjournal




How about using the Rhizone thingy?

You can have me dancing around, pointing to my left-- where you will see a big jar of 
mayo being slurped down by a little kitty cat. So Cute!!!

I will do this commercial if you pay for it. I promise. It doesn't have to be for mayo, the 
kitty cat will play with anything.

schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Yirchott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve Garfield wrote:
 An Internet commercial typically costs about $15 to $20 for each 1,000
 viewers, nearly as much as broadcast networks charge. The price is high
 because there is more demand from advertisers than there is Internet
 video programming available.
 
 If a videoblog averages 2,000 hits per episode, would you pay $40 to
 place a short video at the end of the video?
 
 The tricky part is that advertisers pay those rates for either beginning or 
 interstitial (in between) ad placements. Most valued are the ones that run 
 before the content. I haven't heard of anyone paying to run a commercial 
 after the viewer has gotten what he/she wanted.
 
 I am asssuming the rates you quote are for successfully completed commercial 
 streams and not based on the number of people only watching the content.
 
 -David
 
 
 
 From: Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: off on a (valuation) tangent
 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 00:24:23 -0400
 
 That post says this:
 
 What would you pay to place an ad on a videoblog?
 
 More People Turn to the Web to Watch TV - New York Times:
 
 An Internet commercial typically costs about $15 to $20 for each 1,000
 viewers, nearly as much as broadcast networks charge. The price is high
 because there is more demand from advertisers than there is Internet
 video programming available.
 
 If a videoblog averages 2,000 hits per episode, would you pay $40 to
 place a short video at the end of the video?
 






  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Video thumbs galore

2005-08-04 Thread Devlon




Very, very cool Peter. I'll be using this shortly. 

...now to get mefeedia to have all my latest thumbnails ;)

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 should mention here:
 
 http://mefeedia.com/help/_javascript_/feedthumbs.php
 
 It lets you add random amounts of thumbnails (linking to the
 permalink) of any feed to your blog. So you can do an archive, a
 sidebar with the latest x videos, and so on. What do you guys think?
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Video thumbs galore

2005-08-04 Thread R. Kristiansen




Love it!

Dang, the feed only has 34 of my latest movies which is like the last
month or so, but oh well, I still dig it. I made a short screencast on
how I put some of those thumbnails on my wordpress sidebar, and you
can watch that screencast here: http://www.dltq.org/?p=544

best, 

Raymond M. Kristiansen
dltq.org

On 8/5/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry for the plug - I launched a new feature today that I thought I
 should mention here:
 
 http://mefeedia.com/help/_javascript_/feedthumbs.php
 
 It lets you add random amounts of thumbnails (linking to the
 permalink) of any feed to your blog. So you can do an archive, a
 sidebar with the latest x videos, and so on. What do you guys think?
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: off on a (valuation) tangent

2005-08-04 Thread Jan




If you make it, I will attach it to the end of a vlog entry. Advertise 
anything you wish.

Jan

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It isn't done alone.
http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
http://blog.urbanartadventures.com

- Original Message - 
From: johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:07 PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: off on a (valuation) tangent


 How about using the Rhizone thingy?

 You can have me dancing around, pointing to my left-- where you will see a 
 big jar of
 mayo being slurped down by a little kitty cat. So Cute!!!

 I will do this commercial if you pay for it. I promise. It doesn't have 
 to be for mayo, the
 kitty cat will play with anything.

 schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Yirchott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Steve Garfield wrote:
 An Internet commercial typically costs about $15 to $20 for each 1,000
 viewers, nearly as much as broadcast networks charge. The price is high
 because there is more demand from advertisers than there is Internet
 video programming available.
 
 If a videoblog averages 2,000 hits per episode, would you pay $40 to
 place a short video at the end of the video?

 The tricky part is that advertisers pay those rates for either beginning 
 or
 interstitial (in between) ad placements. Most valued are the ones that 
 run
 before the content. I haven't heard of anyone paying to run a commercial
 after the viewer has gotten what he/she wanted.

 I am asssuming the rates you quote are for successfully completed 
 commercial
 streams and not based on the number of people only watching the content.

 -David



 From: Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: off on a (valuation) tangent
 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 00:24:23 -0400
 
 That post says this:
 
 What would you pay to place an ad on a videoblog?
 
 More People Turn to the Web to Watch TV - New York Times:
 
 An Internet commercial typically costs about $15 to $20 for each 1,000
 viewers, nearly as much as broadcast networks charge. The price is high
 because there is more demand from advertisers than there is Internet
 video programming available.
 
 If a videoblog averages 2,000 hits per episode, would you pay $40 to
 place a short video at the end of the video?
 







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[videoblogging] The Joy of Video-streaming vs Beware This Is A 32MB File!

2005-08-04 Thread chrbaudry




I was quite excited to learn that richard made a video showing how to 
hook up his computer to his TV.

So I clicked on the link and then on the image and waited and waited 
and waited... Thinking that something got wrong I did a right click to 
download the file... and discovered that it was a 32MB file.

Even with DSL, 32MB takes quite a bit of time to download and there is 
the trade off: worthwhile waiting vs let's move on.

Most of the time even with streaming I stop viewing a video clip after 
15 sec as I think I got it. In my humble opinion zapping is a key 
component of TV viewing and I think of videogging.

When the file needs to be downloaded, what about indicating the size?

Chris

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just in case you didnt know how to do thisrichard made a video for
me showing hwo to hook up his computer to his TV.
him and his lovely wife now watch videos togther from the couch.
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Re: [videoblogging] Videos from Iceland

2005-08-04 Thread Adrian Miles




around the 4/8/05 Andreas Haugstrup mentioned 
about [videoblogging] Videos from Iceland that:
guy is saying. As my friend said: vlogs fra Island, serveret tørt og godt

vlogs from Iceland. dum de dah dum and good.

that's the extent of my pigeon Scandinavian.
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[videoblogging] Re: Video thumbs galore

2005-08-04 Thread petertheman





 articles links - but the table came out horizontal rather than
vertical.
 
 Copied the following code into the sidebar section of the blogspot
template. 
 What have I done wrong?
 
 table width=50 border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2
 tr
 tdscript type=text/_javascript_ 
 src="" href="http://mefeedia.com/feeds/298/thumbs/8.js">http://mefeedia.com/feeds/298/thumbs/8.js
 /script/td

How it comes out really depends on the surrounding html. I am going
offline now for a few days (sorry), but I'll be glad to help out next
week!

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[videoblogging] Crazy for Money!!

2005-08-04 Thread johngaltsjournal




All this money talk of the last week, of course, made it to my video camera:

http://schlomolog.blogspot.com/2005/08/rant-for-no-reason.html

Pretty much every time I speak to someone about Videoblogging, they bring up the topic of 
money. Except this time.

schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
ps
there is no commercial in this video. But I think this post is pretty much a 
commercial...where's the Best Foods mayo?





  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Sir Edmund Twahtt Speaks Out on Vlogger Decency

2005-08-04 Thread Zudfunck




ZuDfunck was fortunate enough to grab a moment with
Sir Edmund of the League of Decent Vloggers as he
exposes a violator. Discretion is advised.



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[videoblogging] rhizome 2.0

2005-08-04 Thread Adrian Miles




URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/vog/rhizome/rhizome2.tgz 
URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/vog/rhizome/rhizome2.zip 

 From my blog:

Just as with the earlier rhizome movie, this rhizome movie is 
something you can install and use yourself. It is more domesticated 
(tamer?) than rhizome 1, as here two controllers are provided 
(nothing fancy, just used the automatic ones that LiveStage Pro 
autobuilds for you) that lets the user control each of the child 
movies.

The behaviour where you moused into the video and the volume on the 
other is muted is removed, since now you can play and pause each 
video independently of the other. Each loops, but with a bit more 
control over what happens I imagine some might find this simpler to 
understand.

So, why is this rhizome 2, rather than rhizome 1? I mean why did I 
make this one after the first one? Because even though there are now 
explicit controllers so how you play it becomes easier to understand, 
the implications of what happens when you do this are more complex. 
You now have a movie with two independent tracks. One can play, even 
be stopped, independently of the other. Each time someone stops one 
of these movies, or even stops both, and then starts another, think 
about what is happening. What is the duration of the movie, given 
that the work consists of two that are independent and can be stopped 
at any time by any user? If montage is the serial ordering of images 
(this then that), what happens when we have two sequences playing 
alongside each other (Manovich's spatial montage) but now we also let 
the user have some control over which stops, which plays, and when? 
So that's spatial montage plus some sort of temporal montage that is 
always variable as it is subject to the user.

Now I know that some don't think 'interactive' media is interactive 
because it is scripted. So, for example, in this movie all you can do 
is loop two different bits of video (from anywhere on the internet 
though, so they might not be yours), but the user controls how they 
play back, and in effect what combinations between the video panes 
occur. Is that 'interactive'? Don't know. But if I go to a casino and 
roll the dice in a game, there are only 6 possible outcomes, but 
these outcomes are genuinely random and open. If you said to me that 
is not 'chance' because there are only 6 possibilities, I'd think you 
were missing a few sheep from the top paddock.

Rhizome 2.0 is a simple template that lets you (the author) load two 
videos that will play and loop continuously. Your viewers (aka users) 
can stop, play, and basically jump to beginning or end of each of the 
videos. How to use it? Imagine putting someone else's video into one 
pane, and then your video responds in some manner to that. Perhaps 
you lift a news feed from CNN or the BBC, or just another 
videoblogger's contribution from elswhere. Stick it in one of the 
videopanes, and riff against it in yours. Or try something else. 
Please let me know if you use it, I'm interested in seeing what 
others do with these!

URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/vog/rhizome/rhizome2.tgz 
URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/vog/rhizome/rhizome2.zip 
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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread Josh Wolf




I agree with Clint on this one... While everything in the book will 
work out really well within the format, I don't like O'Reily is doing 
to the word hacks.

Josh


On Aug 4, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Clint Sharp wrote:

 Jay dedman wrote:

 
  why dont you think its the correct format?
  if you look at the new Digital Video hacks by Josh-Paul(on this
  list)...he lays out the basics...and then gets into all the cool 
 added
  stuff you can do.
 
  With videoblogging, all you need is freevlog to get started.
  everything else is just extra.
  hacks.
  Andreas's QT thingie for example.
  I think your linking hack would be perfect.
 
  Jay
 
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 A hack implies there's an established way to do something that you 
 have
 now found an alternative way of doing. Usually you've done it
 surripticiously (sp?), without the manufacturers knowledge or consent.
 In this case, there is no established ways of doing a vlog yet, so
 there's really not much to hack. I mean, I think it's cool in the 
 fact
 that there's 100 of them and different people will contribute, it's 
 just
 the labeling of what's going to be in there as Hacks a little
 misleading. I felt like a good howto book would be better, something
 that won't be so broken up. Basically Freevlog in book form. 
 However,
 the fact that you guys are writing it is ubercool.

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Re: [videoblogging] Crazy for Money!!

2005-08-04 Thread Markus Sandy




johngaltsjournal wrote:

All this money talk of the last week, of course, made it to my video camera:

http://schlomolog.blogspot.com/2005/08/rant-for-no-reason.html

Pretty much every time I speak to someone about Videoblogging, they bring up the topic of 
money. Except this time.

schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
ps
there is no commercial in this video. But I think this post is pretty much a 
commercial...where's the Best Foods mayo?


 

great post schlomo
ok, i'm in the video and so I'm biased
doesn't mean I'm wrong ;-)

i spoke to one of the students at length after this presentation and 
they were all fired up about it
never mentioned money to me
they do ask about protecting their digital rights however
both here and at the apple store

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Re: [videoblogging] rhizome 2.0

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 02:53:57 +0200, Adrian Miles 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/vog/rhizome/rhizome2.tgz 
 URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/vog/rhizome/rhizome2.zip 

Awesome. Looking forward to trying this out for non-test videos.

I updated the XML generator at URL: 
http://www.videoblogging.info/tools/rhizome12/  to make it explicit that 
this works for this new Rhizome as well. You choose which Rhizome XML you 
want to create. The XML isn't different, but the file names are. This way 
you don't have to remember what your XML must be named. Just click and 
save.

For the hackers these versions that build on XML are playgrounds like no 
other. You can create these XML files dynamically. You could for example 
have a Rhizome that changes as the day progresses. Or one that pulls out 
two random videos from the latest mefeedia videos.

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Re: [videoblogging] Crazy for Money!!

2005-08-04 Thread Jan




Well, kids don't typically have kids, or mortgages, or retirement in mind, 
do they?

Personally, I plan on going homeless when I am no longer able to work.

Jan

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- Original Message - 
From: Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Crazy for Money!!


 johngaltsjournal wrote:

All this money talk of the last week, of course, made it to my video 
camera:

http://schlomolog.blogspot.com/2005/08/rant-for-no-reason.html

Pretty much every time I speak to someone about Videoblogging, they bring 
up the topic of
money. Except this time.

schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
ps
there is no commercial in this video. But I think this post is pretty 
much a
commercial...where's the Best Foods mayo?




 great post schlomo
 ok, i'm in the video and so I'm biased
 doesn't mean I'm wrong ;-)

 i spoke to one of the students at length after this presentation and
 they were all fired up about it
 never mentioned money to me
 they do ask about protecting their digital rights however
 both here and at the apple store

 markus

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[videoblogging] Re: The Joy of Video-streaming vs Beware This Is A 32MB File!

2005-08-04 Thread akonix_dmitry




How does everyone feel about starting to encode their Vlogs at a
higher bitrate for larger screens. I have my computer connected to a
HDTV 42 plasma, and would love to watch the vlogs in full screen. Is
everyone just waiting for someone to solve the bandwidth issue, or is
there a general feeling that vlogs belong in small windows embedded
into blogs?

I must admit that I am biased on this as I am working on a large video
file distribution system that eliminates the bandwidth cost issue, but
this is a sincere question.

Dmitry


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 I was quite excited to learn that richard made a video showing how to 
 hook up his computer to his TV.
 
 So I clicked on the link and then on the image and waited and waited 
 and waited... Thinking that something got wrong I did a right click to 
 download the file... and discovered that it was a 32MB file.
 
 Even with DSL, 32MB takes quite a bit of time to download and there is 
 the trade off: worthwhile waiting vs let's move on.
 
 Most of the time even with streaming I stop viewing a video clip after 
 15 sec as I think I got it. In my humble opinion zapping is a key 
 component of TV viewing and I think of videogging.
 
 When the file needs to be downloaded, what about indicating the size?
 
 Chris
 
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 just in case you didnt know how to do thisrichard made a video for
 me showing hwo to hook up his computer to his TV.
 him and his lovely wife now watch videos togther from the couch.
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[videoblogging] Re: Video thumbs galore

2005-08-04 Thread James A. Donnelly




They look great, I will try and use them in my blogs.

jad
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www.dummycast.com
www.madlymedia.com




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ach, Peter, this is a lovely idea - perhaps as replacement for most
recent 
 articles links - but the table came out horizontal rather than
vertical.
 
 Copied the following code into the sidebar section of the blogspot
template. 
 What have I done wrong?
 
 table width=50 border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2
 tr
 tdscript type=text/_javascript_ 
 src="" href="http://mefeedia.com/feeds/298/thumbs/8.js">http://mefeedia.com/feeds/298/thumbs/8.js
 /script/td
 
 Best,
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 http://blog.urbanartadventures.com
 
 
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 From: Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Video thumbs galore
 
 
  Very, very cool Peter. I'll be using this shortly.
 
  ...now to get mefeedia to have all my latest thumbnails ;)
 
  On 8/4/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry for the plug - I launched a new feature today that I thought I
  should mention here:
 
  http://mefeedia.com/help/_javascript_/feedthumbs.php
 
  It lets you add random amounts of thumbnails (linking to the
  permalink) of any feed to your blog. So you can do an archive, a
  sidebar with the latest x videos, and so on. What do you guys think?
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Crazy for Money!!

2005-08-04 Thread Markus Sandy




actually the student I spoke with might have all that and possibly 
grandkids too!

maybe this is retirement for him?

you can see him by the window in the video

all kinds of people study media arts in schools

as a great videoblogger I know says It ain't rocket science, but it 
ain't brushing your teeth either ;-)



Jan wrote:

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do they?

Personally, I plan on going homeless when I am no longer able to work.

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Re: [videoblogging] The Friday Dialup Challenge

2005-08-04 Thread R. Kristiansen




On 8/5/05, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to issue a challenge to everyone on this list. You all seem
 like nice people--I just wish I could actually watch some of your
 videos. But I'm stuck out here in the woods on a 56K modem and there
 are only so many megabytes in a day.

I am game! 

FDC? Oh yeah! 
http://www.dltq.org/?p=547

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread andrew michael baron




I am surprised to hear the number of people who think this Oriley 
hacks thing is a bad idea. I think it's probably the greatest honor 
yet to come out of the whole videoblogging group. I have Spidering 
Hacks and Google Hacks and they are exceptionally great.

Oriely is editing the book so they will assure it meets their 
standards I assume.

I can easily imagine how it will be so easy to come up with 100 solid 
hacks, that meet even the strictest definitions of hacks, the 
challenge may be to ONLY have 100.

In the same way I get creative fulfillment from writing, I also feel 
pretty good about the kinds of solutions I'm forced to come up with 
on a daily basis just trying to keep our videoblog afloat. I assume 
everyone has tons of little solutions that they make up to suit 
tailored demands.

Wouldn't the following be just a few of the thousands of common ideas?

1. apple widget to grab latest video from xml feed
2. interface public webcam to update on blog
3. home made teleprompter from hacked laptop screen, mirror and glass 
to place over camera lenses.
4. building a mechanical, external switch to trigger controls via 
infrared or sonar.
5. creating various MAX/MSP Jitter patches for compressing, 
streaming, looping and effecting video
6. revlogging hacks.
7. hot-linking with an http://http file structure to hide source of 
video when pulling from another domain.
8. creating an index file that checks to make sure server is healthy 
and if its slow or crashed to divert to a backup server.
9. inserting url pings in quicktime when user reaches a certain point 
in the video.
10. how to seed a torrent and then release yourself from the seed 
while keeping it alive off the other seeds
11. how to meet people through webcams by finding out the location of 
the cam's IP and then calling.
12. how to hack your audience by renaming your files.
13. how to code your site to associate all images and various video 
distributions to the same post, without coding each item.
14. how to capture any file, even DRM or protected files.
15. how to convert any file to any file
16. using php or pearl script to randomly grab videos from a directory
17. how to hard code an xml template to create enclosures.
18. create your own rss to TV feeds.
19. how to make a bean-bag to mount a camera on your bike.
20. how to edit on your videocamera in realtime.
21. building a 555 timer circuit to start/stop camera at time intervals.
22. building a motion sensor to trigger a videocamera on.
23. tons of easy video tracking methods for input values.
24. pulling in feeds from various places like del.icio.us, 
blogdigger, friends, etc. into videoblog
25. how to exclude certain authors from being downloaded through 
community feed subscriptions -this is my all time favorite ;)

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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread Devlon




For what it's worth, I think it's a great idea. O'Reily books are
great (from a geek point of view) and it is a great way to get more
people on the videoblog train.

Congrats to Jay and all who are involved.

On 8/4/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 hacks thing is a bad idea. I think it's probably the greatest honor 
 yet to come out of the whole videoblogging group. I have Spidering 
 Hacks and Google Hacks and they are exceptionally great.
 
 Oriely is editing the book so they will assure it meets their 
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Re: [videoblogging] The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread R. Kristiansen




I don't think anyone is Against this book. In fact, the discussion
about the hacks etc, at least for me, was a question of whether that
general topic was the best to have for the first book on
videoblogging.

Let's all make sure that the hacks in this book edited/written by four
friends of ours are as good as frigging possible!

Best, 

Raymond M. Kristiansen
http://dltq.org

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[videoblogging] Re: The first Videoblogging book

2005-08-04 Thread LeanBackVids.com




Great list Andrew!

I'd love to know these hacks even if the book never gets published.

One (hopefully final) note on the hacks name... O'Reilly mainly
covers topics in the open source world. This is a land of tech geeks
and we think hacks are good. Note, this is not the same as being
hacked or a security hacker.

It is kinda like how Linux can make you cool...
http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/cool.shtml

Sadly, I gave up and shelled out for a G5. Hey, at least it is still
UNIX, right?

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1. apple widget to grab latest video from xml feed
 2. interface public webcam to update on blog
 3. home made teleprompter from hacked laptop screen, mirror and glass 
 to place over camera lenses.
 4. building a mechanical, external switch to trigger controls via 
 infrared or sonar.
 5. creating various MAX/MSP Jitter patches for compressing, 
 streaming, looping and effecting video
 6. revlogging hacks.
 7. hot-linking with an http://http file structure to hide source of 
 video when pulling from another domain.
 8. creating an index file that checks to make sure server is healthy 
 and if its slow or crashed to divert to a backup server.
 9. inserting url pings in quicktime when user reaches a certain point 
 in the video.
 10. how to seed a torrent and then release yourself from the seed 
 while keeping it alive off the other seeds
 11. how to meet people through webcams by finding out the location of 
 the cam's IP and then calling.
 12. how to hack your audience by renaming your files.
 13. how to code your site to associate all images and various video 
 distributions to the same post, without coding each item.
 14. how to capture any file, even DRM or protected files.
 15. how to convert any file to any file
 16. using php or pearl script to randomly grab videos from a directory
 17. how to hard code an xml template to create enclosures.
 18. create your own rss to TV feeds.
 19. how to make a bean-bag to mount a camera on your bike.
 20. how to edit on your videocamera in realtime.
 21. building a 555 timer circuit to start/stop camera at time intervals.
 22. building a motion sensor to trigger a videocamera on.
 23. tons of easy video tracking methods for input values.
 24. pulling in feeds from various places like del.icio.us, 
 blogdigger, friends, etc. into videoblog
 25. how to exclude certain authors from being downloaded through 
 community feed subscriptions -this is my all time favorite ;)







  




  
  
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