: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:57 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public
defenses from
Scoble and Furrier) reeks of traditional (old
: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public defenses from
Scoble and Furrier) reeks of traditional (old) media, old business.
Instead of standing up for something or for other people, we are
left with
nothing but a diluted
Jeffrey, you couldn´t be more accurate on your comparison, no mather how
different
Podtech and Blip are.
Podtech people, think about this: if anyone on this list had a similar job
offer (or
whatever offerÂ…) from both companies, who do you think we would trust more?
And maybe
: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:57 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public
defenses from
Personally, I don't like the idea of an awards show at all. Last year
I tried to argue that point but it was clear that so many people
wanted one and that PodTech was determined to put one on that I tried
to help make it good by offering suggestions and by being a judge. The
main factor that had
Wow. Valerie was rather..erm...brazen. I'd have needed a shower after
reading such self-serving tripe. When will people get that forcing outcomes
like this just. doesn't. work in the long-term?
Perhaps PodTech might want to get consulting from the consistently
forthright, diplomatic and direct
conversations my email is john at podtech
dot net
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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michael Verdi
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:06 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone
I had the opportunity to purchase some buddy passes about a month
ago...I have missed so many vlogging get togeteher's I was detirmed,
not to miss another one. I S wanted to go to the vloggies last
yearso I bought the buddy passes for my wife and I and set
an open date for LA to go to
On 7/24/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I S wanted to go to the vloggies last
yearso I bought the buddy passes for my wife and I and set
an open date for LA to go to the vloggies this year.
Now I wonder if I didn't just waste a bunch of money
Not to worry, Heath, at
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
I had the opportunity to purchase some buddy passes about a month
ago...I have missed so many vlogging get togeteher's I was detirmed,
not to miss another one. I S wanted to go to the vloggies last
year
I am racing off to a shoot this morning so I will probably chime in a bit
more later, but I have been very disturbed by so much in these threads.
Before leaving, I wanted to note two things:
1) The repeated references to videoblogging as the industry.
2) The reference in a recent podtech post to
I don't get you John. Cherry picked Valerie's comments? Look at what
she said - I included almost everything. I was trying to keep the
email as short and relevant as possible. I also linked to the whole
page so anyone could go read it for themselves. BTW, Scoble didn't
think it was cherry picking
.
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heath
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:19 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
I had the opportunity to purchase some buddy
Of
Michael Verdi
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:58 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
I don't get you John. Cherry picked Valerie's comments? Look at what
she said - I included almost everything. I was trying to keep the
email as short
:19 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
I had the opportunity to purchase some buddy passes about a month
ago...I have missed so many vlogging get togeteher's I was detirmed,
not to miss another one. I S wanted to go
: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
I don't get you John. Cherry picked Valerie's comments? Look at what
she said - I included almost everything. I was trying to keep the
email as short and relevant as possible. I also linked to the whole
page so anyone could go read
I just thought since everyone is talking on this post I should too.
Just for fun.
I don't understand why everyone is a little mad about the whole
Vloggies thing.
It is a little shady if they did get the trademark name that Irina
made up and worked so hard on The Vloggies.
But if they have the
Word.. thank for the hug Scholmo.. we all needed it
Ok great. Now with Irina not at PodTech this year, what are your
plans? My impression of last year was that it was Irina that kept it
from being the kind of thing that Valerie was talking about.
- Verdi
On 7/24/07, John Furrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael,
Sorry about the choice of word
I strongly agree with this. I realize it's business as usual for more
traditional media businesses to use award shows as a way to scratch the
backs of their VIPs and biggest stakeholders, but I find something like
that entirely disingenuous in the case of PodTech and the Vloggies. Not
only
Thanks
I needed that.
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.
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From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:24:07
To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
Group Hug
love
The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public defenses from
Scoble and Furrier) reeks of traditional (old) media, old business.
Instead of standing up for something or for other people, we are left with
nothing but a diluted, tasteless word salad.
On 24/07/07, J. Rhett Aultman
yea i don't like word salad.. that much
Although. Schlomo hugs are nice..
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public defenses from
Scoble and Furrier) reeks of traditional (old) media, old business.
Yeah, I know what you mean - I'm not a huge fan of awards shows
either (except when I win lots of money by betting on the Oscars),
but I don't like the idea of community awards - I'd rather they were
handled by Podtech (or whoever) and treated honestly for what they are.
Whatever community
For what it's worth, Freetime is profoundly unpopular, and we still won a
People's Choice for Best Documentary, so this isn't necessarily true.
Also, having the Vloggy definitely improved our viewership, as we went
from being completely unknown to being only moderately unknown.
--
Rhett.
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Jeffrey Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:57 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public defenses from
Scoble and Furrier
it's interesting though how this list has changed.. when I first
joined, the threads were shorter and the conversations were done on
video and there was less text. whatever happened to that.
awards seem strange for personal media to me also. awards/more people
seem to lead to increased
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