One of the things I pinged the good folks about Podcast Pickle about was
ratings based on
a USER's favorite vlogs. While popularity and star systems have their place in
certain cases,
what's most important to me is how my favorites rank other vlogs.
For example, what does Peter think is cool?
I finally figured out how to return to Quicktime 6 on my G5 with
Panther. I had upgraded to Quicktime 7 and the downgrade to Quicktime
6 didn't work correctly.
I kept thinking if I had another OS installation, I could put
Quicktime 6 on it. Then I thought, duhhh, I do have another OS -- OS
9.
Really cool! Abstract until you get through the scupture.
Christian
On 11/26/05, Digital Buddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:04:28 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
> Sorry to say that I disagree with you. Star ratings are actually
> very important and should be allowed. That is especially true when
> the star ratings are accompanied by text critiques.
> I trust the judgment of many over the opini
I like this idea. It's almost like the reviews, but shorter and
easier for me as a user to indicate that I liked a feed (instead of
typing up a review)
Reviews are still great and very helpful.
On 11/27/05, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> One of the things I pinged the good folks about
Hello Michael:
I made a DV movie and exported a self-contained quicktime version with
all the original DV settings, except for the size I set to 640 x
480. I opened it up in QT Pro, and exported as a MOVIE to iPOD
(320x240). I ended up with the .m4v. But I changed the
extension from .m4v to
Hi all,
I just made a new video and I would like to invite all and sundry to see it, It
has been
languishing in at Blip.tv since this morning and although it's comedy itself,
hardly anyone
has glimpsed it. Maybe the humour is not to the American taste, I dunno, but
for those of
you who are
I have fixed non responsive problems in xp by uninstalling my device and then re installing it. My wireless link did this a couple of times and then decided to give me no more problems. I hear the Ubuntu distro of Linux is worth a peek. Linux usually takes tweaking but reports are Ubuntu wo
The problem with "links" is that they are to
another complete set of vlogs. While many vloggers are consistently better
than others, most of us are very "uneven" in the quality of our
output.
If people would link to specific vlogs, that would
be much better.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
It is not the actual "star rating" that is
revealing on Amazon. It is the text accompanying the rating. Someone
might give a book a "one-star" rating and in writing about the book say
something like "exposes like this one on the high rate of theft in Columbia do a
disservice to the count
I think of myself as a journalist. Rarely, do
I do a vlog or story about an event I am personally and socially involved
in. I made an exception for my latest episode:
http://blip.tv/file/get/RandolfeWicker-ARABSTERRORIZEFAGGOTS997.mov
It is a little over six minutes long. I
wonder if i
Its also the fact that you can rate the reviewer and let other users
know that you found the review helpful or not. This type of feedback
promotes trust in the system. People who are considered good reviewers
rise to the top of the reviews.
-Josh
On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Very good point, Josh. People are said to
"vote with their feet". Would we say that viewers on the Internet vote
with their "mice" :)
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Chuck, mnstories looks great. However, your
description of that demonstration being "of Carter" was a bit misleading.
They were just demonstrating to get Carter's attention and help.
Your vlog Santa project sounds most
interesting. One idea I would like to work on (feel free to steal i
Does anyone know a script, code or program to add a feed from another
site to your site?
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> I think of myself as a journalist. Rarely, do I do a vlog or story about an
> event I am personally and socially involved in. I made an exception for my
> latest episode:
> http://blip.tv/file/get/RandolfeWicker-ARABSTERRORIZEFAGGOTS997.mov
i see youre going into the archives...video from
> I just made a new video and I would like to invite all and sundry to see it,
> It has been
> languishing in at Blip.tv since this morning and although it's comedy itself,
> hardly anyone
> has glimpsed it. Maybe the humour is not to the American taste, I dunno, but
> for those of
> you who ar
great in theory perhaps, but what about practice?
take amazon for example:
the products are rated
the reviewers are rated
the ratings are rated!
the shippers are rated
did i leave anything out =)
i have a degree in mathematics, but i still don't want to have to solve
multi-variable word p
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Hello ya'll. I just posted the following question to Michael Verdi,
and thought I'd open it up to the forum:
I made a DV movie and exported a self-contained quicktime version with
all the original DV settings, except that I changed the size to
640x480. I opened it up in QT Pro, and exported as a
oops, they have a new url
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yep... i have this feature on vlogdir, partially activated. there are 'vlogmarks' (personal favorites),,, and i could make these publically viewable, just have not added that to the interface yet. by next week, it should be... along with other human filter/revlog features.
since there is also a
Absolutely. The trick is in presenting a user interface such that its
easily understandable and usable, even though the underlying process
is complex.
In general, Amazon works pretty well. I am able to find stuff there
and ascertin whether I want to buy it. There are a number of ways for
me to ana
> perhaps this is all a holy grail and that it will always be necessary for
> individuals to sift the wheat from the chaff
> perhaps that is actually part of the process of videoblogging that steve
> garfield has put forth: watch, learn, create, teach
agreed.
in the end, there is no way to have
you're right, it doesnt. but you also know for some weeks now that I have been working on efforts to add filter features. your response here is off-topic, as I was just pointing out the numerical vlog names appear on vlogdir, where the gripe was that they do not, generally. appear in directori
True, Markus.Do systems like what amazon use have value? yes. how much value? i have no clue... I rarely pay attention to it when making purchases. I read a few reviews from both ends of the positive meter.. and move on.
gotta find a balance and not hyper-geek it all... or at least if you do,
This is a good point... these systems must grow.
None of this stuff matters much if you don't have a community of active users.
Otherwise its like an empty Forum, which is sort of sad.
-Josh
On 11/27/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> True, Markus.
>
> Do systems like what amazon
The problem with tracking what people watch is 'clickers'...what if I
load a clip, I don't like it so I don't finish...does that get
ear-marked that I watched it and therefore it's popularity goes up by
one?
I think feedback that a user consciously adds is more valuable than tracking usage.
Bu
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> Hello Michael:
>
> I made a DV movie and exported a self-contained quicktime version
with all
> the original DV settings, except for the size I set to 640 x 480. I
opened
> it up in QT Pro, and exported as a M
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The problem with tracking what people watch is 'clickers'...what if
I load a
> clip, I don't like it so I don't finish...does that get ear-marked
that I
> watched it and therefore it's popularity goes up by one?
>
> I thin
This is true. I think you have to give explicit feedback more weight
than implicit feedback.
But implicit feedback is better than a blackhole of nothingness...
especially when a system is dependent on user feedback.
-Josh
On 11/27/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In videoblogging@yahoo
True, people often do and say contrary things. My point is that
if a tracking method of popularity measurement is used, the system
needs to be sophisticated enough to determine if a user actually
watched the whole thing.On 11/27/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> True, people often do and say contrary things. My point is that if a
> tracking method of popularity measurement is used, the system needs
to be
> sophisticated enough to determine if a user actually watched the whole
> th
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Thanks Kirk, I have been thinking about transitioning to a Xandros
distribution for a long time. I need something that will let me get up
to speed quickly and allow me to videoblog with my existing equipment.
I'll look into Ubuntu.
I have done everything and then some to get it to work. I have an
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Peter, is there anyway to "refresh" what mefeedia sees? Ie: to get it to clear out it's database and re-look through all the entries in a videblog to find files, links and make new thumbnails??
Or any way to tell it to go get a thumbnail??
It seems quite common that mefeedia misses a movie + neve
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Sunday, November 27, 2005, 4:56:25 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
> It is not the actual "star rating" that is revealing on Amazon.
> It is the text accompanying the rating. Someone might give a book a
> "one-star" rating and in writing about the book say something like
> "exposes like this one on the
The guy was definitely an Arab. It was the
cultural thing about a woman giving him the finger that really tipped him over
the edge.
This was one of those special events in my
life. I don't have many videos that are so exciting except for some stuff
from 1971.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicke
Hi everyone. I'm quite a newbie here, so I reckon someone has already
had this problem in the past.
I got the feed for my vlog (http://vlogstory.blogspot.com) and I
posted one video. But when I use Fireant to verify if everything is ok
with my feed, I cannot download the video I posted, but I only
Hey Michael,
You're almost there. Check out http://FreeVlog.org and go to step #6.
You need to transform your Atom feed to RSS format.
You can do this at FeedBurner by enabling your feed "for podcasting".
Hope this helps,
Josh
PS: please use the Send Feedback and Report Bug features in FireAnt s
My favorite way to find films is Netflix. Their system looks at
what you rent and suggests films that other people like you have
enjoyed, based upon your previous rentals and how you've rated
them (stars). I've found countless great films very easily this way.
I'm not sure if they have writte
Hi all,
With my son Pierre-Thomas (14 years old)
we are beginning the first dog's vlog
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/10844
We are looking for a name beginning by "a" for this dog ( Apple,
Arzhel, Andrew, Aziz)
( we must find a name monday)
May be this dog could be the mascot of vlog
What about Anjing?
It means dog in Malay or Indonesian.
Joan
http://rantingsofjoan.blogspot.com
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Cute! First french vlogger mascot? I vote for "Alpha"!On 11/27/05, Loiez D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all,
With my son Pierre-Thomas (14 years old)
we are beginning the first dog's vlog
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/10844
We are looking for a name beginning by "a" for this dog (
Maybe something that say's i'm french and into video something like ALAIN, or ALPHONSE OR ANTOINEPAUL On 27 Nov 2005, at 22:56, Ted Tagami wrote: Cute! First french vlogger mascot? I vote for "Alpha"!On 11/27/05, Loiez D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi all, With my son Pierre-Thomas (14 years o
Okay I am working with Windows XP and I bought a Kodak easyshare
camara that makes movies in QuickTime (.mov) Which of course means,
I can't use Windows Movie Maker to edit my films...
I saw a link I think on freevlog.com about using AVIDFREEDV..but I'm
having serious issues with this program..I
OH! Here's a traffic magnet: Crosspost this on http://www.dogster.com.
That community would love to share their ideas, I am sure of it. You
could also share the idea of vlogging with the interaction too!
Hey Rheingold, you think we can do something for Loiez, his son, and a dog-with-no-name?
Senario: What if you shoot someone that is putting on a skit, just for your
camera. You video it, post it, and later that person states that they don't
like it. It make them look._ whatever.
Of course if you are a decent human being, you will probably take it down. But,
are you legally requi
Quicktime Pro is $30.
Definitely worth it.
You can convert mov to something else... DV, AVI, etc. that can be
handled by Movie Maker.
-Josh
On 11/27/05, Crystal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay I am working with Windows XP and I bought a Kodak easyshare
> camara that makes movies in QuickTime (
Hmm...that is rather tricky.
While you are allowed to film in a public place (where this is not an
invasion of privacy), you are filming a particular person and that does
require permission.
On the same token, paparazzis take celebrity pictures all the time and
distribute it freely ( I suspec
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them look._
whatever.
The best way to do this is to video them befo
Dear Jay,
Thank you very much for the nice welcome.
> We've had a lot of new people join in the last month.
> I want to first extend a welcome to you.
I am one of the new members, but still in the phase of experimenting,
i.e. I still do not have a really working vlog. But as an introduction
to
Who out there is teaching videoblogging at a University or College? I'm
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-- I'd love to share thoughts with others who've designed a 15-week
class...
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hey Crystal, I had this same question and after much searching, I
finally broke down and bought the software from Riverpast:
www.riverpast.com
So far, it works pretty easily, cost was $30.
There are lots of converters out there and this one just seemed pretty
straight forward. I got the "video clea
Hey Folks,
I'm traveling from the US to London in two weeks for the Gloval Voices
Summit and trying to get organize so I can live blog and vlog. What
type of adaptor do I need to charge up my batteries for my
laptop/camera.
Also, is there a London or UK vloggers group?
Beth
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Thanks Crystal for asking that question. It never occured to me before
that Quicktime Pro could be installed on Windows. Guess I'm running out
to get it.
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m4v files are mp4 files, not movs. So it is fine to rename a m4v file
to end in .mp4 instead, but dont rename it to .mov
If I rename it to .mp4 then it works on the ipod.
Steve Elbows
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Yeah I really like the social aspects of Netflix. Being able to see
what your friends are watching is really useful. That would be a nice
feature in a directory.
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> My favo
Finding interesting content that reasonates with one's own taste is a challenge
not
exclusive to videoblogging. With the proliferation of new music out there
since the home
recording revolution, it is quite a challenge to find new music that isn't
mainlined to you
through MTV or corporate ra
Just call your dog "Apple Tiger". That will
resonate with vloggers everywhere.
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Go Mom! Something to proud of Ryanne.
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I guess i'll have to bite the bullet and go and buy ittryin to hold
out tho..i want my kids to have an awesome christmasi need to spend
a lil more money on them...;0
so for now i'll just show lil clips using quicktime;(
and evnetually I'll be able to put it all together and make a li
oh and btw, My Vlog is at http://crystalvlogs.blogspot.com ;D
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Just call your dog "Apple Tiger".
That will resonate with vloggers everywhere.
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Maybe I misread something. Didn't they say
they only wanted general audience materials?
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will,http://www.musicplasma.com/ - Wow, that is too cool!Thanks for sharing this!
I'm also curious if anyone doing anything innovative, unique to the videoblogging space interms of marketing and publicity.i am always thinking up new ideas to advance this area. you should start a fresh thread (a
Hi all
Feel like getting your brain wrapped around something more satisfying
perhaps than how to conform to Apple's scheme for adding your content
to an iPod?
I stripped out the audio track from video we shot with Brad Templeton
and Jerry Michalski, it's posted as an audio podcast (if you subs
Blip would really be going in the right direction
if it could help vloggers use flash. That would be a huge leap
forward. Flash is definitely the future.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreportin
Taylor - where are those hard drives made? Are we paying what we
SHOULD be for them? I have a hard time believing that someone,
somewhere, isn't paying the price for that cheap hard drive, in cheap
labour, environmental destruction, or a dead end minimum wage job in a
box store.
In canada it'
I mentioned at eons ago in January when i first signed up. We've
just now launched our beta release in drupal - its sort of confusing
and im just getting my head around it, but every drupal page has an RSS
feed.
This is probably the most active : everything from Montreal
http://homelessnat
Thanks, Steve. I was sure I saw that
somewhere. However, when someone asks for documentation, I'm at a loss
sometimes. I really was worried that I had made a mistake
somewhere.
Your paragraph is exactly what I was referring
to. Now, if they have rights to use and transfer, etc., doesn
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When Anita Campbell started her Web log about small-business trends two years ago, she thought it would simply be
I use a Sony still camera which shoots MPEG-1 at VGA 30fps. Basically
Standard Def Video.
The system works well with a few caveats. You need to convert the
MPEG file to something more edit friendly (you'll need to do this
regardless if it's MP4 or MP1) -- I just go for MiniDV. This is a
less th
Hey Mary,
On a Mac it's not too much of a problem. You have to take all of your
clips and run them through MEGP streamclip to convert them to dv for
editing. On a PC I'm not sure how it works. I asked about this the
other day and didn't really get an answer. BTW, I saw a Canon SD400
for
> On the same token, paparazzis take celebrity pictures all the time
> and distribute it freely ( I suspect without permission but I'm not
> sure).
There are different sets of rules regarding famous people -- actors,
politicians etc, and everybody else. I can't remember the details about
when
I'm wondering about "following" the lead of my
vlogs.
My first vlog for Immortalism, featuring the
founder of The Immortality Institute, has swamped all my other vlogs. It
has over 600 hits while my other vlogs haven't hit 300 total hits.
So, should I "accept the message" and focus my
For the record, I'm a fan of Dick Cavett.
I wanted to ask him two other questions: "What are you working on now?" and
""Have you experienced age discrimination in our youth-oriented culture?"
I never got the chance to ask the important questions because he got overly
defensive about his age.
Ra
Wow, what a nightmare!!
Imagine Blip TV going out of business! What
should we do to keep from losing our work? Do we have to keep the
originals on our computer??
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywicker
Hi Jen,
On 11/27/05, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter, is there anyway to "refresh" what mefeedia sees? Ie: to get it
> to clear out it's database and re-look through all the entries in a
> videblog to find files, links and make new thumbnails??
No, we don't have that yet.
> Or any
A clear cut case of "gender prejudice". Not
sure you would understand the issues involved
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Setting up an account with the Internet Archive and crossposting via Blip is a good start.
(I always burn a cd/dvd of my stuff anyway.)On 11/27/05, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wow, what a nightmare!!
Imagine Blip TV going out of business! What
should we do to keep
Sorry, and any others that are linked up with IA (OurMedia, etc.) ...if I've forgotten anyone, apologies.On 11/27/05, Devlon <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Setting up an account with the Internet Archive and crossposting via Blip is a good start.
(I always burn a cd/dvd of my stuff anyway.)On 11
You can do whatever you like, that's one of the great things about
vidoeblogging.
Of course, if you want to reach a larger audience, you might want to
create content with regards to that particular audience in mind.
Also, don't get too hung up on stats. The longer you produce content,
the more att
Sounds like a "do we give the audience what they want or do we do what we want" dilemma.
Personally, I would do what I want regardless of the audience. I
believe its all in how you present it. If you consistently deliver
interesting topics, the audience have no choice but to "follow" you.
Ther
I've been using Windows Movie Maker for a while and am thinking of getting Quicktime Pro.
Can anyone tell me which would they prefer to use and why. And what does
Quicktime have that WMM don't?
Cheers!
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Quicktime Pro is not really for editing, although you can use it for
simple editing (copy and paste style, but not timeline based).
Quicktime Pro is generally used for converting movie files and compressing them.
You can also do some advanced stuff like add captioning and clickable
links inside mo
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Sounds like a "do we give the audience what they want or do we do what we want" dilemma.
This usually depends largely on whether the audience has money.
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