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> Pipermail:http://lists.viff.dk/pipermail/viff-devel-viff.dk/
> Gmane:http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cryptography.viff.devel
> The Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/viff-devel@viff.dk/
>
> The Mai
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>> Pipermail:http://lists.viff.dk/pipermail/viff-devel-viff.dk/
>> Gmane:http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cryptography.viff.devel
>> The Mail
those blanks first...
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good overview of the VIFF architecture, lots of examples, and
sufficient documentation of method arguments and return values.
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I have submitted VIFF to Freshmeat and other sites with free and open
source software, and it seems my clever linking campaign has paid off!
VIFF will soon rule the world... Mw
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have updated the API documentation a bit and have uploaded a new
> version to http://viff.dk/api/.
I have updated the core documentation some more, especially the Runtime
class. I tried to document the more sub
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tells me that all methods and functions are documented now. Simply
having documentation is of course not a guarantee for *good*
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> I would like to try VIFF over greater network distances, and this is
> where you guys come into the picture. Please tell me which machines
> you have access to in exotic places. So far I know of these
> persons/places:
>
>
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am currently installing VIFF on the viff.dk machine hosted at
> DreamHost (in Los Angeles in believe), USA. But it takes quite a while
> to compile libgmp, gmpy, etc. since the machine is very busy (the load
> is ~25!). I'll p
e players in order
3-2-1 and if you kill one of them the port is probably left in a
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Hi Tomas,
I'm glad to both you and Tord stopping by! :-)
>> Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I would like to try VIFF over greater network distances, and this is
>>> where you guys come into the picture. P
service attacks are
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi again!
> We use the marshal module in the ShareExchanger class to, well,
> marshal data in shares before they are exchanged. [...]
I forgot to add that the solution to this should be easy in our case.
We only send very simple data over
s packet
> Repeated X times:
> 8 or 16-byte of hash value
> log(p)/8-byte share value
I definitely think we will eventually need something like this -- a
format where each packet is a number of plain bytes that can simply be
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ity function.
FILE
/home/mg/src/viff/viff/util.py
DESCRIPTION
This module contains various utility functions used in all parts
of the VIFF code. The most important is the L{rand} random
generator which is seeded with a known seed each time. Using this
generator for all random numbers ensures that a protocol run can
be reproduced at a later time.
FUNCTIONS
clone_deferred(original)
Clone a Deferred.
The returned clone will fire with the same result as the
original Deferred, but will otherwise be independent.
...
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Janus -- I'm CCing you since I you might be able to comment on the
use of Java in my example. This is a followup to this post in which I
created a minimal implementation of the Twisted Deferred class:
http://articl
add(a, b)
>>> e = mul(d, c)
>>>
>>> a.callback(10)
>>> b.callback(15)
>>> c.callback(20)
>>>
>>> print a
Share (value: 10)
>>> print b
Share (value: 15)
>>> print c
Share (value: 20)
>>&
Janus Dam Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Den 07/12/2007 kl. 14.34 skrev Martin Geisler:
>
>> I see what you mean about the observer pattern since each variable in
>> the program is observed by the operations that depend on it. So
>>
>> x = add(a, b)
The add and mul operations could then proceed by having
x, respectively y, notify their listeners which would be the add
operation defining z in this example.
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Tomas, I guess this design is similar to the one you though of when we
discussed alternatives for the SIMAP runtime?
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The revision is here:
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I'll try to make VIFF use SSL now... of course depending on a command
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Janus Dam Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Den 08/12/2007 kl. 2.50 skrev Martin Geisler:
>
>> [...] As you say, it is then easy to evaluate such a graph in
>> parallel as long as you keep track of the leaf nodes. By parallel I
>> don't necessarily mean h
e and have links to the other central papers
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'll try to make VIFF use SSL now... of course depending on a
> command line option :-)
I almost have TLS working at home now. It turned out that the most
time consuming part in developing this is the generation of private
keys!
have been
able to pull them from http://hg.viff.dk/viff/, but the site is down!
I've just created a ticket at DreamHost support asking them to fix it.
Until then, please let me know if you have any comments on the code
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>
> The changes have just been pushed as 925a8ac3896e. You should have
> been able to pull them from http://hg.viff.dk/viff/, but the site is
> down! I've just created a ticket at DreamHost support asking them to
> f
with the standard 65 bit
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Ivan, Thomas, Dan, Jakob, Janus, and the rest of viff-devel!
I have implemented and timed TLS in VIFF -- I figured you SIMAP guys
might want to hear about that too.
> This is the summary of changes:
>
> Secure communication betw
ti12: 3.818 ms
These numbers are much more similar. I'll have to look into why the new
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi again
> The results are from test runs between the machines thyra (Aarhus,
> Denmark), bazooka (LA, USA), and serengeti (Trondheim, Norway). I have
> used benchmark.py, some shell scripting and lots of patience :-)
>
> The first
o use, yet they solve difficult
and annoying problems.
[1]: http://jtauber.com/blog/2006/03/11/recreational_programming/
[2]: http://genshi.edgewall.org/
[3]: http://feedparser.org/
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've added an area at the top of http://viff.dk/ that shows the four
> most recent changes in the Mercurial repository and most recent posts
> on this mailing list.
It seems to work, the previous post is now shown on the page.
Alternatively one could write three different source files, but this
does not scale to protocols with more players.
Please let me know if you get an idea for this!
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are done on variables which represent values in
the ideal functionality implemented by VIFF. So they are not tied to
any particular player and so I think we can limit these asymmetric
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way to do this, but I think the
above would work. And it would only require that VIFF can open shares
to a subset of the players. Or maybe I am missing something... this
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it is there since the Share
might not have a value yet. That is why you need to use callbacks to
schedule your peeking until the result is ready.)
Adding the callback has the result of converting the GFElement at once
(since the value is already there):
>>> x_share.addCallback(lambda e: Z
ck what happens?
If it better than the normal zip file I made for the 0.3 release, then
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What about making the argument to shamir_share optional? If all
> three players specify a value, then the code looks and behaves like
> it does today:
>
> a, b, c = rt.shamir_share(input)
>
> If P1 and P2 provide inp
Hello!
This is just a test, Mailman should hold this mail for moderation since
I am sending it from an unsubscribed address.
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http://docs.python.org/dist/postinstallation-script.html
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> Hello!
>
> This is just a test, Mailman should hold this mail for moderation
> since I am sending it from an unsubscribed address.
Eh, that obviously failed... Now I'm glad I wrote something sensible and
not the usual nonsens
me in the different
classes. The programmer would then have to pick only one class -- mixing
two classes that both define compare() would result in one of the two
methods being shadowed by the other, and that only leads to confusion.
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but a given comparison make sense for multiple
> protocols.
Exactly -- as I just wrote to Thomas, then it is actually a matter of
delaying the choice of superclass for these comparison-classes. They are
usable with both a PassiveRuntime and an ActiveRuntime class, and so I
think they should s
foo in Comb
I am foo in Mix2
Specifying the superclass directly like that should be kept to a minimum
since it needs to be updated if the superclass should ever change.
If you just want to select between two methods, then this also works:
class Comb(Base, Mix1,
Janus Dam Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Den 31/01/2008 kl. 14.21 skrev Martin Geisler:
>
>> If you just want to select between two methods, then this also works:
>>
>> class Comb(Base, Mix1, Mix2):
>> foo = Mix1.foo
>
> Brilliant!
Hehe, I
nt!
>>
>> Hehe, I think it's quite neat too :-)
>>
>> Being able to write stuff like that is so typically Python... it is
>> a very flexible language that allows you to do almost anything you
>> want.
>
> Ohh so it is Turing com
er cleanup work I can do, so let me know if you want to take a stab
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want your address included, then send a patch or tell me where I can 'hg
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mikkel and I restructured some code yesterday in preparation for
> implementing a Bracha broadcast, which in turn will help implement
> protocols for active security.
As you might have seen on http://viff.dk/, Mikkel has committet a
B
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Mikkel and I restructured some code yesterday in preparation for
>> implementing a Bracha broadcast, which in turn will help implement
>> protocols for active security
er exactly how much
the second style saves us: it "collapses" all the lines in which no
input is given into the line where input *is* actually given.
I think the second piece of code looks nice, so I propose that we keep
the syntax used by shamir_share and thus change broadcast to match it.
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> if runtime.id == 1:
> a = runtime.broadcast(1, "foo")
> b = runtime.broadcast(2)
> if runtime.id == 2:
> a = runtime.broadcast(1)
> b = runtime.broadcast(2, "bar")
> if runtime.
-s 'x = mpz(2**1024 - 11)' -s 'y = mpz(2**1024 - 31)' 'x * y'
10 loops, best of 3: 4.57 usec per loop
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Hello again,
> I have thought a little about how we can split the current Runtime
> class into smaller pieces. Currently runtime.py contains five classes
> and the Runtime class contains 26 methods. That is too much
> information in on
the Trial API documentation with a list of possible
assertions here:
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> Quick Trial tutorial: implement a new method named test_foo that takes
> self and a runtime argument. Decorate it with protocol. Now run
>
> trial viff.test.test_basic_runtime
>
> to execute just this file. Repeat until
uite a
lot of new features since 0.3: some asymmetric protocols, Bracha
broadcast, xor overloading. When we have asymmetric open and
prss_share, then I think we should release the code as VIFF 0.4.
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threshold_factor = 3
which would mean that we need
num_playes > threshold_factor * threshold
which with threshold = 1 gives the four players we had before. But
given such a factor, it would be easy to generate test cases with
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Trial is not so well documented as the rest of Twisted, so looking at
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""" % (n, n)
exec code
Trial never notices the difference and runs our tests as normal!
This way we have lots of power over how the tests are generated: we can
easily test, say, all n<10, 10 randomly chosen n between 10 and 50, and
5 random n's between 50 and 100. Something like that...
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> know that a certain testcase does not support my parameter. How to do
> this, I don't know. I just like it.
Then all I can say is that I think we have an idea for a possible
solution below... :-)
> Den 15/02/2008 kl. 10.21 skrev Martin Geisler:
>
>> Janus
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Thomas: How do I create a new unit test? Not just one, I want to
> create many with randomized parameters! What to do?
I spend a bit of time writing about unit testing with VIFF:
http://viff.dk/docs/unit-testing.html
Let me know wh
hat might be the best overall
solution since it would ensure that users have the correct
documentation present when downloading a release.
(I just wanted to put this out here so that Mikkel and I do not sit
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e all
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Oh, and should I have named the directory /doc instead? That would have
been short for "documentation" whereas /docs must be short for
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viff-devel@viff.dk writes:
Hello!
> http://hg.viff.dk/viff.dk/rev/bb098464f71d
> changeset: 32:bb098464f71d
> user: Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> date: Tue Feb 19 20:03:52 2008 +0100
> summary: Sorted bibliography.
>
> [...]
I have implemented a no
0/02/2008 kl. 15.57 skrev viff-devel@viff.dk:
>
>> http://hg.viff.dk/viff.dk/rev/ec341fb94853
>> changeset: 36:ec341fb94853
>> user: Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> date: Wed Feb 20 13:00:49 2008 +0100
>> summary: Filter out notification mails on
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> http://hg.viff.dk/viff/rev/4f7cc081dcff
> changeset: 445:4f7cc081dcff
> user: Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> date: Fri Feb 22 13:29:50 2008 +0100
> summary: Mention the Bracha broadcast here.
And I have now also disabled these
changes that are always made
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* It was easy to do since the repository provides RSS and Atom feeds :-)
* It gives people an easy way to see that the project is alive.
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> Hello everybody,
>
> With help from the DAIMI staff I have managed to get a BuildBot up and
> running at
>
> http://buildbot.viff.dk/
>
> I would also like to test VIFF using both Python 2.4 and 2.5 to ensure
> t
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> http://buildbot.viff.dk/
>
> As all the nice colors on the waterfall display show, I had to try a
> couple of times before I was able to get my build-slave running...
It runs now and things will automatically connect when I st
as it was at the point of release. That way people should be able to
always obtain API docs for their code, whether it being new or old. I
would of course love if anybody thinks this is a bad idea...
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st figured that people would have set up
filters to sort these messages into a folder by now, and so one more
mail wouldn't make any difference.
For now I can easily subscribe people by hand to the notification mails,
and if the demand suddenly rises, then we can always make a dedicated
list for
> Rel2.2 --'
I have never done something like this before, I have just read about
it... So I might be wrong about a thing or two :-)
Chapter 8 of the Mercurial Book contains more ideas for this:
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/hgbookch8.html
as does this Google Tech Talk:
Hi there,
Tomas tells me that one can download binary Windows GMPY packages for
Python 2.5 on the projects new home:
http://code.google.com/p/gmpy/
I'll update the URL in the INSTALL file to point to there instead of
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Tomas Toft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Tomas!
> Martin Geisler wrote:
>> Tomas tells me that one can download binary Windows GMPY packages
>> for Python 2.5 on the projects new home:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/gmpy/
>
> Got that from Thomas, s
exactly! My initial solution was to bad asymmetri completely... a
bit radical :-) So it very interesting to see different solutions as to
how we can bring it back.
And now it the right time to do it -- we can still easily do search and
replace on the code since I assume that 99% of all VIFF code i
Jakob Illeborg Pagter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Good evening!
> Tomas Toft skrev:
>> Hi
>>
>> Martin Geisler wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Tomas tells me that one can download binary Windows GMPY packages for
>>> Python 2.5 on
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'll try and make a third builder now which runs Epydoc whenever the
> source changes and maybe even uploads the API docs to viff.dk.
This now works -- the documentation is now automatically built and
uploaded to viff.dk on every c
files there. Test your changes at rst2a.com and send them
to me. If you are too borred to use Mercurial, then you can even just
follow the link at the bottom of each page to get to the rst source.
Edit that and send me the changes.
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Tomas Toft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all
>
> Martin Geisler wrote:
>> Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I'll try and make a third builder now which runs Epydoc whenever
>>> the source changes and maybe even uploa
viff.dk/api/0.3
like I suggested earlier.
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I will extract the API docs as they looked in the old releases and
put them online as suggested above. I'll probably do this later today,
right now I am looking at getting the unit tests working in a
simulated asynchronous network. That is almost working as it should.
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Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So I will extract the API docs as they looked in the old releases and
> put them online as suggested above. [...]
I have now uploaded the API docs under api/. I have also included the
releases in the repository so that everything (excep
abled. I just left
it turned on since it was nice for testing when I updated the
build-master config... Nobody can make the slaves run arbitrary
commands, they can just make them waste some cycles, as you say :-)
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"Thomas Jakobsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Thomas!
> I have now (with help from Martin Geisler) set up a Windows XP Pyton
> 2.5 build slave on my laptop. Currently, the builder just checks out
> the VIFF source from Mercurial and runs the unit tests. Later, code
the program counter associated with the sending or
receiving player.
We send this out here since we would love to hear other ideas!
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e counter situation and some more broad
> thoughts about the program:
>
> [...]
I think I'll have to read and think some more about this final part
before I can comment on it :-)
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