any time I see your name I will. thx for all your advice on life.
-Original Message-
From: Tom Rash
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Well, for someone tired of hitting the delete key, you sure muscled up some
energy
: Re: An Aira Update
I could care less what Mark says 1 way or another. I think this whole damned
thing was blown out of proportion by a bunch of whining people. I have about
worn my finger out with the delete key and I really don't care who goes or who
stays.
I really think it is about time people
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I could care less what Mark says 1 way or another. I think this whole damned
thing was blown out of proportion by a bunch of whining people. I have about
worn my finger out with the delete key and I
They're priceless.
Best regards,
Carolyn
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Marie
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I would hope that people like Sieghard
s to be treated, on-list.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
about any list issues.
>
> I will kindly ask that this thread be closed because I hope I have settled
> the question of how the AIRA product is to be treated, on-list.
>
> Mark
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:vipho
product is to be treated, on-list.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Hi Marie,
I haven't decided
@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I could care less what Mark says 1 way or another. I think this whole damned
thing was blown out of proportion by a bunch of whining people. I have about
worn my finger out with the delete key and I really don't care who goes or who
stays.
I really think
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I have to agree with you on this and also wonder why Mark has not responded
in any way. I think we would all appreciate some kind of clarification on
the issue.
Marie
-Original Message-
From
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Hi Marie,
I haven't decided yet, but I don't think maturity has anything to do with
it, it comes down to principle.
What really surprises me is that Mark posted what he did and never provided
any further explanation or responded to any of the dozens of posts. He also
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I would hope that people like Sieghard and Richard are too mature to leave
the list over a disagreement such as this one. They are both a wonderful
source of assistance on all the uses of our IO
PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
Hey Carolyn. Me too. I've been here for quite a while and love this list. We
have a lot of resourceful people on list. I would hate to lose them.
Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
see: tech4theblind+subscr...@groups.io if you want
nd or podcast.
> - Original Message - From: "Janet Bell"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:46 AM
> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>
>
> if you get so much information about stuff maybe you should look at your own
> subscriptions. I am glad it has been p
That's a great point, with the many listers, information is welcome since it
could be the first of hearing about that new service, app and or podcast.
- Original Message -
From: "Janet Bell"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
if you g
Aira is not being singled out, it was an informative update, that turned
into an advertisement.
- Original Message -
From: "Lenron Brown"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
It is pretty lame that Aira was singled out like this. I pers
googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Aira Update
>
> I agree that Aira while having come up at various times before is certainly
> not in everybody's face all the time. If you, Andy, are subscribe to so many
> lists and Podcasts where it is discussed you obviously have a great deal of
I agree with you 100 percent on this Sieghard. Well said.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
I agree
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Well, Andy,
You do have a delete key and I think you know how to use it. I find this
information from Johnathan very interesting and appreciate all the info on IOS
aps and Aira. Just because you don't want to hear about it does not mean other
the delete key on those
messages.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
It's not that jonathan isn't welcome
: An Aira Update
Let's hope Mark, who always struck me as rather rational and reasonable, finds
it in his heart to look at this from the point of view many of us have brought
forward here and that he'll invite Jonathan back. I said earlier that lists
like Viphone are not a democracy, but maybe
: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
Hi Mark,
I'd just like to say that I believe that this was an incredibly
short-sighted decision to take. Personally, I'm quite happy to hear
about updates to apps that are useful or could be useful to me. When
: An Aira Update
I completely agree.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject:
I completely agree.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael
Feir
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
mark, I must protest this policy and decision. More an more apps are going to b
servicve-related going forward
26, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>>
>> But there's a difference between a person talking about an app they like and
>> a corporate executive touting his company's product.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten"
>>
@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jonathan
Mosen
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after around
9 years on the group, but I want to express my disappointment about this change
an 2019, at 23:50, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>
> Hi Fazil, it’s available in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
> Aira access locations are available in the UK.
>
> Jonathan
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of
> *Fazil M.
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 2
re available in the UK.
> Jonathan
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil
> M.
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Aira Update
>
> Is this available in US only?
>
> From: Fazil M. [mailto:urdu...@telus.net
gt; But of course groups like Viphone are not democracies and Mark is the
>> moderator so I guess his word is the law, but it is unfortunate to loose
>> any future contributions of a member as accomplished and well-regarded as
>> Jonathan.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> S
ed and well-regarded as
> Jonathan.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet
> Bell
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet
Bell
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
if you get so much information about stuff maybe you should look at your own
subscriptions. I am glad it has been put up on this list because
AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
It's not that jonathan isn't welcome, it the aiRa propaganda. Personally,
I'm tired of them always being in my face, i. e. Emails, podcasts, etc.
they're not new, and I'm tired of hearing about them.
Andy
- Original Message
Otten"
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I’m not Jonathan, but when the moderator of the list says that such
posts are not welcome, what else would you expect?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Jewel wrote:
Jonathon! Why pun
January 26, 2019 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I’m not Jonathan, but when the moderator of the list says that such posts
are not welcome, what else would you expect?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Jewel wrote:
Jonathon! Why punish us all just because of the negativ
;
> Jewel
>
> --
> From: "Jonathan Mosen"
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:42 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: An Aira Update
>
> Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after
> a
Jonathon! Why punish us all just because of the negative reaction of a very
few?
Jewel
--
From: "Jonathan Mosen"
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:42 PM
To:
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new po
they like and
> a corporate executive touting his company's product.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>
>
> Hi Mark,
> I think you were spli
But there's a difference between a person talking about an app they like and
a corporate executive touting his company's product.
Andy
- Original Message -
From: "Mary Otten"
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
Hi Mark,
I thin
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after around
9 years on the group, but I want to express my disappointment
t; -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>
> I didn't know that ads were allowed on this
and training
http://www.mosen.org
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being offered to
our
, January 26, 2019 7:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being offered to
our community, is always appreciated.
However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on this
list. Any questions
: An Aira Update
I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being offered to
our community, is always appreciated.
However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on this
list. Any questions regarding the service, itself, to be taken off-list,
immediately
all for observing this policy.
Moderator Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I didn't know that ads were allowed
Hi Fazil, it’s available in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Aira
access locations are available in the UK.
Jonathan
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Is this available in US only?
From: Fazil M. [mailto:urdu...@telus.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Is this available in US only?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.
Andy
- Original Message -
From: "James English"
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
Hello,
I'm curious. What things can the service not be used for?
https://www.avast.com
Hi James, there aren’t too many things. You can check out the terms of service
at http://www.aira.io/tos
And there is an FAQ at:
Http://aira.io/faq
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training
http://www.mosen.org
> On 27/01/2019, at 11:35 AM, James
Hello,
I'm curious. What things can the service not be used for?
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail;
target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif;
Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following info may
be of interest to some.
For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio description of
anything visual, provided by security-vetted,
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