Hi Tim,
The Mac mini came with the VGA adaptor, which I didn't know at the
time, so I bought one at the Apple store. I think it was $30.
I have also got an A B switch for my large print, illuminated
keyboard, so I can use it with both machines.
Chuck
On Oct 24, 11:05 am, Tim Mehok wrote:
> Chuck,
;> or so and while they of course want as many people as possible to use
>> Skype, there will be a lot more integration down the road with their
>> products and services such as Office/Outlook, Hotmail/Outlook.com and
> Office 365.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> S
Hi all. Let's all remember 2 things.
1. While a healthy debate is always welcome, let's remember to not flame
anyone.
2. While discussions of Macs can be on topic here due to the cross
platform of iOS, let's remember that if the discussion turns into just
Mac and other non-iOS things, then i
Ron, Please don't exaggerate the inaccessibility of Apple computers before
VoiceOver. For several years, and up to the arrival of OS X, we had OutSpoken
for Mac.
Everyone's experiences are different and none of us know the full story about
accessibility to the various platforms.
Cheers,
Anne
y, October 25, 2012 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Well Seigard,
We have to differ. Skype has come a long way on the Mac as there is a key
to hang up calls. You can also answer calls these days with ease and more.
I remember using jaws with Skype, and would ex
ups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
>
> Skype on windows is crap, well it was when I last used it. Skype on the Mac
> is great. No scrips from jaws which used to crash eve
ssage-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Skype on windows is crap, well it was when I last used it. Skype on the Mac
is great. No scrips from
41
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Carol P, I think it's my hearing impairment that puts me off using apps like
Skype on the iPhone. Skype on the mac sounds very clear though.
Perhaps if I used headphones or a headset this may change, but I am too lazy
to use them with
Skype on windows is crap, well it was when I last used it. Skype on the Mac is
great. No scrips from jaws which used to crash every time.
Kawal.
On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> You can find a thousand people who have a thousand good and bad stories to
> te
to motivate to
drag the Mini on this desk and push the old XP biscuit tin aside.
R!
- Original Message -
From: "David Chittenden"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
You are using a slightly spurious argument about businesses putting
PCs are going to be around for a while, for them and the
thousands of companies that contract with them.
Joe
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegr
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Ma
Mary,
I would not want to use a tablet full-time either; however, my point is that it
could be done. THe level of efficiency is somewhat unknown. For example, could
you use VueScan Mobile to connect to a scanner on the WIFI network and use
something like prizmo to conduct the scan. Is it possib
You are using a slightly spurious argument about businesses putting Windows XP
on all their computers. Nobody can buy a new computer with Windows XP. What
those companies do is utilise a Windows XP site license which permits them a
specific number of Windows XP machines. If they remain legal, th
#x27;s a very valid point, Cheryl. Thanks for sharing.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cheryl Ann Homiak
> Sent: 24 October 2012 01:00
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mac verses Ipad
&
Hi David,
You can find a thousand people who have a thousand good and bad stories to
tell about Windows, PC's and Macs. Yes, I have met plenty of people who
bought a Mac and hated it. You can also buy any laptop and sometimes end up
getting a lemon just like with any product. Just as you have your
des and they only come once a year. Of course, periodic updates
>> every 2 or 3 months are free. I agree that the initial price is high but,
>> keeping it up is not a major deal
>>
>> Ron
>> & Danvers
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tim Mehok
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Chuck,
You said you used a A to B switch box to switch the VGA signal from your Mac
to PC.
Since the Mac has a DVI output, how did you adapt the DVI to VGA?
ps.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chris
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
>
> I wonder if the $200 is actually for a JAWS upgrade or something.
>
>
> Christopher Hallsworth
>
I think the problem with me is headsets do not like my flippy ears grin.
I prefer headphones that mould around your ears. I mean the ones with a
cup or mug shaped mould if you know what I mean.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 24/10/2012 18:48, Scott Davert wrote:
Hi all.
Wow, where to begin? Ron:
Chuck,
You said you used a A to B switch box to switch the VGA signal from
your Mac to PC.
Since the Mac has a DVI output, how did you adapt the DVI to VGA?
Thanks,
Tim
On 10/24/12, Chuck Dean wrote:
> If you have a monitor, don't forget about the Mac mini. It's only about $600
> and is abo
My experience with JAWS and Windows is different then yours. I too used
JAWS with spread sheets, documents and presentations, both in MS Office
and Symphony. I used Lotus Notes and Thunderbird for my email clients. I
used both Firefox and IE as browsers and would also have double digit
tabs opened
it so portable so lazing on the settee as you talk is my thing!
Carol P
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: 24 October 2012 13:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Well, I have both a Windows 7 6
e have just talked ourselves into.
>
> Just my opinion
>
> Ron
> & Danvers
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:31 AM
inal Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
I wonder if the $200 is actually for a JAWS upgrade or something.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 24/10/
ther - TalkNav
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Ron,
I employ, rather than am employed some 10,000 people across the four
businesses I own. I use Mac Exclusively, and we operate in a highly
technical industry.
I currently run four
I think that's a very valid point, Cheryl. Thanks for sharing.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Ann Homiak
Sent: 24 October 2012 01:00
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mac verses Ipad
I don't thin
gt;>
>> Ron & Danvers
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googleg
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: 24 October 2012 13:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Well, I have both a Windows 7 64 bit laptop and a Macbook Pro 2012 model. I
like them both, and switch to
Well, I have both a Windows 7 64 bit laptop and a Macbook Pro 2012
model. I like them both, and switch to them on a daily basis. I am on my
laptop more recently because what has been new in the Windows world over
the last week. But say I go on Skype tonight I will switch over to my
mac because
I wonder if the $200 is actually for a JAWS upgrade or something.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 24/10/2012 10:58, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
Sieghard,
You are correct that for accountancy purposes, even here Windows is the only
option, we too use Sage, and for that I have to use Windows vi
Sieghard,
You are correct that for accountancy purposes, even here Windows is the only
option, we too use Sage, and for that I have to use Windows via Boot Camp.
I am very interested to learn that JAWS 14 will support Windows 8 on day one,
that is interesting very much to me. You say the days o
Hello Neil,
Disagreeing and discussing this topic is of course good and stimulating. I
don't own multi-national businesses with thousands of employees, but I do
own a retail business with 4 or 5 employees and maybe I could make a Mac
work for me if I really wanted. I am on my computer all day long
Sieghard,
You and I were bound to one day disagree… here it is:
That shiny new PC laptop which you bought for half the money, well done, yes,
Apple products costs more, what you failed to highlight is how much JAWS then
cost you to put onto it… Even if you just look at the SMA costs, JAWS is
t
t; Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
>
> I cannot comment on your book point, but, will say that I was a Nokia and
> Widnwos PC user for donkey's years, moved over exclusively to Apple in 2010,
> and haven
If you have a monitor, don't forget about the Mac mini. It's only about $600
and is about the size of a Kleenex box. Works great! I am running both the Mac
Mini and my PC in conjunction into the same monitor using at VGA a b switch.
With this set up, I can go back and forth between the Mac and P
Hi Kathy,
I also really like my iPhone and it's amazing what you can do with it.
However, don't make the mistake to just assume that a Mac is going to be
just as awesome. You can't compare an iPhone to a Mac and while I am sure
Mac lovers disagree, I firmly hold that a PC running Windows 7 with no
Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
Joe, although you are entitled to your opinion, I think you have to qualify
"complex" word processing. There are many who would disagree with your
assertions and that
Hi Scott,
I have a BT keyboard; I don't use pages. Too many reports of people losing
place, or I guess it is vo losing focus etc, and because I have a Mac and an
old PC, it wouldn't be worth it for me to put in the time to deal with Pages on
an I-device. But the scanning? With an I-device? No wa
I don't think anything needs to be out of the running. I primarily use my
Mac with my iPhone a close second. Then comes my linux very close behind,
and then Windows 7 with Windoweyes, System Access and occasionally the
Jaws demo but my Windows system is just for fun or when all else fails. I
ha
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
I cannot comment on your book point, but, will say that I was a Nokia and
Widnwos PC user for
replacing a computer yet and probably
never will be.
HTH
Ron & Danvers
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
There is an
with Voiceover, but if anyone likes JAWS,
> it's not out of the running yet, at least in my own personal opinion.--Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kathy and Wilda
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 20
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
>
> I cannot comment on your book point, but, will say that I was a Nokia and
> Widnwos PC user for donkey's years, moved over exclusively to Apple in 2010,
> and haven't looked back at all!
>
> The Voice Ov
Mary,
I actually think with VueScan Mobile and Prizmo, you actually could work with
the scanning thing. As far as "word processing" I think with a bluetooth
keyboard, Pages, and some of the other similar apps it may be possible.
Perfect? Maybe not, but I think time will see improvements here as
over, but if anyone likes JAWS,
it's not out of the running yet, at least in my own personal opinion.--Joe
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kathy and Wilda
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.
We're more or less back to the MBA again then!
- Original Message -
From: "Mary Otten"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
There is an app for reading books from bookshare called read2go for the iPad
and phone etc. You download
You can buy adapters for the iPad to give it a usb port, then you can plug
low power demand devices into it. Remember the iPad is not going to want
to power other things. I know pen drives are supported and since the stream
is power sufficient I should think, it should be supportable too.
I h
-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
There is an app for reading books from bookshare called read2go for the iPad
and phone etc. You download
, 2012 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad
I cannot comment on your book point, but, will say that I was a Nokia and
Widnwos PC user for donkey's years, moved over exclusively to Apple in 2010,
and haven't looked back at all!
The Voice Over experience i
I have to agree. I switched to the Mac a year ago this month.
Voice-Over on the Mac functions quite differently from screen-readers on
Windows, so you will need to give yourself plenty of time and patience to learn
the new system. Also, Mac does many things differently as well.
As for going exc
I would say, that unless you mainly are looking for a consumption device, that
you'll likely need a Mac as well as an iOS product like iPad or iPhone.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather
TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an
I cannot comment on your book point, but, will say that I was a Nokia and
Widnwos PC user for donkey's years, moved over exclusively to Apple in 2010,
and haven't looked back at all!
The Voice Over experience is reliable, consistent, user friendly and most of
all a joy to use. I always felt tha
There is an app for reading books from bookshare called read2go for the iPad
and phone etc. You download books directly inside the app and can use either
voice over or the speech that comes with the app to read those books. I would
never replace my computer with an iPad for at least two reasons
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