Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

2012-10-13 Thread Sandy Tomkins
HI, This just happened to me for the first time since the upgrade to 6. i have reset before with no problems. I discovered that voiceover was turned on but triple click home was off . I had to tturn triple click home to VO before all was well again. I should say that although I do have a

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

2012-10-13 Thread paras shah
I can confirm this. In i o s 5.1.1 this was not happening. When I beta tested the i o s 6, i did send this to Apple. Apparently, they did not have time to fix this. Please send more of your reports to accessibil...@apple.com On 10/12/12, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: I reset my phone

RE: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

2012-10-12 Thread Rose Combs
I reset my phone yesterday using both the home and power button, then restarted it and had voiceover, it is a $s running IOS 6. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:25 PM To:

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
I sent a message to Apple and they wrote back telling me, in effect, don't use home and power button to reboot the phone. I only did this when I could not get things straightened out. I think more people need to report this unless they have done this on purpose. Reggie and Brooks On Oct

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
It does not work. I thought I wrecked my phone when I did it. Reggie and Brooks On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: It should actually work no matter what provided you've gone into Settings/General/Accessibility/Tripple Click Home and set it to VoiceOver.

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
I had not rebooted for almost three weeks when it happened to me. I also had nothing attached to the phone. Reggie and Brooks On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: David, I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe a couple of

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To the last trill? Does this do the same thing as holding until turn off completely? Reggie and Brooks On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote: I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard re-set, holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Scott Howell
I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset technique. On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote: I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the iPhone and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever. Maybe reset is not the

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Scott Howell
David, I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe a couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
Scott, I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to make it lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the power home reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set back to factory defaults each time VO is switched off. Also,

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I have lost VO only once by using this reset, and that was because I got distracted and ended up holding it for about twenty seconds. I think there is a timing limit. However, with both the Ipad 3 and the iPhone 5, VO can be brought back with the tripple-click of the home key. I got an iPad 3

RE: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Jeff Bishop
To be warned here though, you must do this triple click home on the welcome screen of each of the devices. Pressing the home key negates this functionality. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Ah, thanks Jeff, that makes sense. Could we talk about the maps feature sometime? On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote: To be warned here though, you must do this triple click home on the welcome screen of each of the devices. Pressing the home key negates this

RE: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Patti Johnson
Oh man, now I really want an ipad, grin. I've been trying to squelch that wish but I may not make it! Patti -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:32 AM To:

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Scott Howell
David, The one thing you stated that caught my attention is regarding the Braille display being connected. So, this problem does not occur provided the display is not connected? If so, that is something and certainly worth reporting to APple. On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:17 AM, David Chittenden

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, as soon as I confirm this is the cause. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/10/2012, at 5:56, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: David, The one thing you stated that caught my attention is regarding the

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Grant Hardy
It should actually work no matter what provided you've gone into Settings/General/Accessibility/Tripple Click Home and set it to VoiceOver. Grant On 10/9/12, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote: To be warned here though, you must do this triple click home on the welcome screen of each of the

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Grant Hardy
David, That is very bizarre indeed and certainly shouldn't be happening by design. Sounds like a bug that should be reported to Apple accessibility. Do you ever lose VoiceOver when rebooting your phone normally? Also, not to get into a whole debate about resets and crashes again, but I don't

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, I was attempting to create the reported problem. Now that I have, I will re upgrade my iPhone 5 to reset it to factory values. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/10/2012, at 10:59, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
Unless you get hit by this quite rare bug. VO is literally completely reset to factory defaults and triple-click home is switched off. It's hard to duplicate though. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/10/2012, at 10:55,

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread Kathy Blackburn
I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard re-set, holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to get VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the phone to a computer

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread Katey Glass
I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the iPhone and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever. Maybe reset is not the proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, but rather just clearing out memory cobwebs on the phone or pad. At any rate, I

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread Grant Hardy
Hey Kathy, this definitely shouldn't be the case. Doing a reset in the manner you described simply forces the phone to reboot. It shouldn't reset any of your settings. To be safe though, I'd recommend popping into Settings/General/Accessibility/Tripple click home, and setting the tripple click