Re: OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6

2015-05-27 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:19 PM Subject: Re: OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6 Press the Home button twice to bring up the app switcher. Then swipe right with three fingers. You should then have a screen with the button to dismiss the app switcher, a button to set or unset the rotation lock

Re: OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6

2015-05-27 Thread Carol Pearson
Thanks to everyone who helped me with this. I now have it working correctly! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 26 May 2015, at 9:06 pm, Terry-Ann Saurmann tsaurm...@access4less.net wrote: Hi Carol, I do not own an IPod Touch, however, I understand from someone who does, that

OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6

2015-05-26 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Hi all, We have an older iPod, running IOS 6, and use it occasionally, mainly for music. Unfortunately, the lock position for portrait and landscape has become unlocked and I can't remember how I used to lock it once again. Is there someone out there who can remember how this is done, please

Re: OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6

2015-05-26 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann
Hi Carol, I do not own an IPod Touch, however, I understand from someone who does, that to lock the screen on an older model, you need to be on page two of your app. switcher, by flicking horizontally left to right and right to left until you find it. Once there, you can flick to the right

Re: OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6

2015-05-26 Thread David Justice
, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, We have an older iPod, running IOS 6, and use it occasionally, mainly for music. Unfortunately, the lock position for portrait and landscape has become unlocked and I can't remember how I used to lock

Re: OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6

2015-05-26 Thread Rob Harris
...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:43 PM Subject: OLDER IPOD RUNNING IOS 6 Hi all, We have an older iPod, running IOS 6, and use it occasionally, mainly for music. Unfortunately, the lock position for portrait and landscape has become unlocked and I can't

Re: IOS 6 question

2014-07-27 Thread David Chittenden
by the side of my bed and is used almost exclusively as an internet radio. Since the 3GS cannot be upgraded to IOS 7, I am hopeful that some list member will be able to tell me how to lock the screen in landscape mode when using IOS 6. Thanks. Don Roberts -- The following information

Re: IOS 6 question

2014-07-26 Thread RobH.
- From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 11:40 PM Subject: IOS 6 question My first iPhone was a 3GS. That phone now resides in a docking station by the side of my bed and is used almost exclusively as an internet

IOS 6 question

2014-07-25 Thread Donald L. Roberts
when using IOS 6. Thanks. Don Roberts -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post

Re: total Google Voice integration once again available for iOS 6 users

2014-03-09 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi there I know this is rather a late response but I want to let you know that if you have the tweak called call on GV as you say, and it is working without issue, it will let you make Google voice calls from tapping a number on a link or website or whatever. So if this is not working, perhaps

Re: total Google Voice integration once again available for iOS 6 users

2014-02-19 Thread Chris Byrne
I am a user of Call on GV, but the functionality I am missing is to touch a phone link (say, in the browser, or dial on a google local search) and have the option to call using VOIP, like I can in GV+ (which uses Google Chat rather than cell minutes.) Any ideas about solutions? THANK YOU!

can't text on iPhone 4 still running last update of IOS 6

2013-12-21 Thread Sharon Ballantyne
Hi there, I am not aware of changing any settings or anything but with voice over on I am unable to text from my iPhone 4. If voice over is turned off, sighted people can text just fine. With voice over on the area of the screen where the keyboard should respond just makes that “thunk” sound.

Re: can't text on iPhone 4 still running last update of IOS 6

2013-12-21 Thread Brian Moore
do you have a bluetooth keyboard? it may be that when it was paired, you pressed the eject key which will hide the keyboard. sometimes it doesn't appear again. turn off bluetooth and it might come back, if not reboot. only thing I can think of off the top of my head cause same thing happened

Re: face bookwasRe: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-24 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
New update available. iOS 7.0.3. They say it contains improvements and big fixes. As of now my iPhone 4S and iPad 3 with iOS 7.0.2 are terribly sluggish and very frustrating. Lets hope this helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a

RE: face bookwasRe: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
phones, first my old one and then for a few days I used and set up a brandnew replacement 4S which I received 2 or 3 days before my 2-year Apple Care coverage ran out. I had a very serious issue with my old 4S which already started in iOS 6 where sometimes it wouldn't switch at all to the earpiece

Re: face bookwasRe: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-14 Thread B Krosney
hello I don't own an iPhone, but I just purchased an iPod Touch 5th gen. It came loaded with v 6.1.3. Suddenly, I get the notification that the update to iOS v 7. something is ready to install ... seems that it DOWNLOADED it to my device without my knowledge or consent. I PURPOSELY did NOT

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
really notice a slow down, but since I was low on space on my 16GB (I have lots of music), I took the chance to upgrade to a 4S. It’s also working fine. Again, there is ONE feature iOS 7 has that iOS 6 didn’t, and it’s really nice, and that’s system wide bold text. Yes, 56 pt on iOS 6

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs 7 makes iPhone 4 very slow. So it is not a unique condition in one phone

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Are you talking about the iPhone 4S? I upgraded to IOS 7, and I don't find it any more sluggish than IOS 6. On 10/07/2013 12:15 AM, glazingfr...@gmail.com wrote: Another problem with iOS 7 update to iPhone 4/s. It makes the entire

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
a resolution for your issues. Respectfully, Ed. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I respectfully disagree. I think sluggishness on the iPhone 4 for Voiceover users is the norm not the exception. I think sighted people

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread Pete Nalda
7 has that iOS 6 didn’t, and it’s really nice, and that’s system wide bold text. Yes, 56 pt on iOS 6 was nice, but even better bolded on iOS 7. On Oct 7, 2013, at 10:03 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry but this is getting old. People have suggested restoring

face bookwasRe: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread Troy Sullivan
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Not only on my iPhone 4S its slow, but on my ipad4. It freezes for a few second while I am moving around, especially Mail. It never ever happened with iOS 6.1.3 on this once beloved iPad 3

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-09 Thread Rose Combs
06, 2013 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Raul, I doubt it, iClean overwrites already deleted space with jibberish and basically fills up your phone, at the end you get a message

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Pablo Morales
...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute that an iPhone 4 is slower with iOS 7, however, you described that it takes 22 seconds or whatever the number

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Ed Barnes
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Ok Sieghard. What ever. the point is not if restoring my iPhone as new device, could help. it could

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
finding a resolution for your issues. Respectfully, Ed. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Mike Cassidy
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: 07 October 2013 21:08 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Actually, I'm running an iPhone 4 with 32 GB. iOS 7 was quirky

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Ron Pelletier
... -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Pete Nalda
Yep. I also have an iPhone 4, that I updated to iOS 7. I didn’t really notice a slow down, but since I was low on space on my 16GB (I have lots of music), I took the chance to upgrade to a 4S. It’s also working fine. Again, there is ONE feature iOS 7 has that iOS 6 didn’t, and it’s really

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
. - Original Message - From: Ierne To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. . Hey, letting you know that there is a download for an upgrade is one thing, but actually downloading it to your device without your permission is much worse, and Thhhats

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Are you talking about the iPhone 4S? I upgraded to IOS 7, and I don't find it any more sluggish than IOS 6. On 10/07/2013 12:15 AM, glazingfr...@gmail.com wrote: Another problem with iOS 7 update to iPhone 4/s. It makes the entire everything sluggish, even after disabling certain fancy

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I agree with Christopher that iOS 7 on a 4S is a very good experience (apart from the few bugs we also had to deal with in iOS 5 and iOS 6). I don't see any sluggishness. I can't speak for an iPhone 4 except that I know 4 people and I mean I know them personally and spoke with them about it who

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Regina Alvarado
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. So contrary to what David C. has stated, it looks

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I agree with Christopher that iOS 7 on a 4S is a very good experience (apart from the few bugs we also had to deal with in iOS 5 and iOS 6). I don’t see any sluggishness. I can’t

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Alan Paganelli
, October 04, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, First, since I’m running an iPhone 5, and its 32GB, this doesn’t really affect me. But, if I was running an iPhone 4, with 16 or even 8GB, I think this would

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I don't see how one could complain about a notification. - Original Message - From: glazingfr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:18 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Troy Sullivan
this person is using a headset. - Original Message - From: Regina Alvarado To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Have you tried turning phone 4s off and back on or even

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Pablo Morales
- From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I respectfully disagree. I think sluggishness on the iPhone 4 for Voiceover users is the norm

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, October 07, 2013 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs 7

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Corey Michael Cook
: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute that an iPhone 4 is slower with iOS 7, however, you described that it takes 22 seconds or whatever the number was for the Settings app to open and there is just no way that this is normal behavior. If your

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Corey Michael Cook
: Monday, October 07, 2013 7:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
with IOS 6. On 10/7/13, Corey Michael Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed it will make the 4 slower I have been seeing this at my job with some customers. But the phone should still be usable. Corey Cook Facebook: corey.coo...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: viphone

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
... Getting back up is LIVING... -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Pablo Morales
: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, My question is: Why are people in such a hurry to download and install

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Mary Otten
Jonathan, I really appreciate your posts on this topic. I'm not so sure about consumer laws protecting U.S. consumers in this instance. I admit that I, like 99.9% of other users, did not read all that legal stuff that you agree to when accepting a software license. I have certainly written

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Ierne
Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. So contrary to what David C. has stated, it looks as if the charger is now irrelevant. Which is odd, because I was able to stop the download a few days ago by disconnecting the

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Terje Strømberg
2013 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Cara, I think there are many millions of users out there who will probably disagree. I listened to the Today in iOS Podcast tonight and most

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Eileen, My problem is that it wastes about 3 giga bytes of space on my precious expensive iOS device. I paid money for space to be used by me and not by Apple pushing in a download that I want do delete and there is no way for me to delete it. Don't you get it? On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:01 AM,

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Exactly this issue in this topic brought me here. My iPhone I did update on purpose, but my itouch5 I decided should stick with iOS 6.1.3. I like the colors and rich graphics in it. Whatever my reason is, that's what I decided to do. I use my itouch more for pictures and other things. At some

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker? It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not complaining about smile. I don't

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? Does the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc space so that an app such as this might be able to clean it out? I

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
06, 2013 2:08 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I don't think it's a fact that new software is always buggy. That depends a lot on the software and the testing the software went through before it was released

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I don't think it's a fact that new software is always buggy. That depends a lot on the software and the testing the software went through before it was released. The process of finding and fixing bugs is on going

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Cara Quinn
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not complaining about smile. I don't believe

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Ron Pelletier
? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Ron. It could happen, because 2 reasons. 1. The IOs is downloaded automatically to the iPhone, without agreement, without ask, without any warning. Of course, it occupied space in the memory, and when we are talking about an iPhone

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Eileen Misrahi
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. For Mac users, there is an app called

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Eileen, iExplorer is an app which runs on your Mac, which allows you to see your phone's file system and move files to and from it. My thought was that perhaps it might allow people to remove the unwanted OS download from their phone to free up the space they need. Now, I have no idea

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? Does the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc space so that an app

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
How do you know it's downloading? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ierne Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Cara, Thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look, as I am one of those who want to keep the older phone on 1.6.2. It would be nice to get back 3 GB on this phone. Luckily, I still have plenty of storage. Thanks again for supplying the link in your message. Best, Eileen Sent from my

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Now that you mention it, my phone when charging is locked. - Original Message - From: Ierne To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Hi: Does such a program exist for a Windows based system? Also although a bit slow 7.2 works acceptably fine with a 4. 6.2 was also slow with the 4 but I didn't hear anyone complaining about that. On 10/6/13, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, Thanks for the explanation.

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread James Mannion
or condescending, but I have been running iOS 7 since Beta 5 in mid August and first of all I don't think there are any more bugs than there were when iOS 5 or iOS 6 was released. Second, a fair number of the things people report I for one either can't reproduce or if I can I can easily find a work-around

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Maybe it depends on your level of expectations, and perception. I thought IOS 6 on an iPhone 4 was slow. I’ve used an iPhone 4 with IOS 7, and found it really, really, slow. haha. I mean, the hardware is three and a half years old, has 512MB of RAM, 1 core, etc. And we are now talking

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Pablo Morales
bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Ricardo, I understand Pablo's frustration to some degree. However, Pablo has an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 4 and he chose, and chose is the important word here, to upgrade both devices to iOS 7. He complained just as much a year ago

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If we're talking about IOS 7 then the comparison has to be with an iPhone 4 running IOS 7 versus the same iPhone 4 running IOS 6. Of course the new iPhone 5s will perform better with IOS 7 than an iPhone 4. the same was true with IOS 6. I myself am running IOS 7 on an iPhone 4S, and I don't

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Regina Alvarado
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I had intended to upgrade over my upcoming vacation week, if not this weekend. But when I unlocked my screen and discovered that IOS 7 had already been downloaded, I decided to go ahead. I wanted to do it via ITunes, so I hooked up my phone to the computer

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread tcorson2
and is taking up that space. Donna tcors...@cfl.rr.com -Original Message- From: Regina Alvarado Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I have a question

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Regina Alvarado
don't like that it downloaded and is taking up that space. Donna tcors...@cfl.rr.com -Original Message- From: Regina Alvarado Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker? It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a half-full

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2013-10-05 Thread Ricardo Walker
about IOS 7 then the comparison has to be with an iPhone 4 running IOS 7 versus the same iPhone 4 running IOS 6. Of course the new iPhone 5s will perform better with IOS 7 than an iPhone 4. the same was true with IOS 6. I myself am running IOS 7 on an iPhone 4S, and I don't notice any

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
I actually do. I will be playing dice world or salara or lost cities and be half asleep. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ron Pelletier
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ron Pelletier
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded. The rest of those of us who

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
they want. This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to express your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you should consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad. You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Neal Ewers
, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
- From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Gary Petraccaro
...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would load a new iOS without someone

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2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
exactly one year ago, I bet if you took them and replaced iOS 6 with iOS 7 they would sound almost identical. Of course now iOS 6 which Pablo thought was so horrible after he upgraded from iOS 5 is the nice and perfectly working OS, let's all look forward to reading the same one year from now when iOS 8

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded. The rest of those of us who

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi everyone, I have a lot more sympathy for Pablo's position than many of you seem to have. Since I paid to test iOS 7, I was prepared for the onslaught of negativity that I think is pretty justified for a release that has more serious

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
it when ever we want, if we want. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory stick or a device where you can load

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory stick or a device where you can load your own operating system. You didn't just buy a piece of hardware

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
, 2013 4:24 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. So, you have two choices currently. You can go with Apple, who is focused on user experience. This company has learned that the vast majority of their users prefers the upgraded

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2013-10-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, it could

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ricardo, I understand Pablo's frustration to some degree. However, Pablo has an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 4 and he chose, and chose is the important word here, to upgrade both devices to iOS 7. He complained just as much a year ago when he upgraded from iOS 5 to iOS 6 which is why Raul posted

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right away, it could

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Pablo Morales
very bad, but they can not force us to update our devices. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:12 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Dawn Petty
, September 27, 2013 1:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi all, I too am using an iPod Touch 5th gen, and I don't feel any of the temporary bugs in the IOS7 are impacting my use of my device

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Alan Paganelli
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. Is it slower than my iPhone 5

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Pete Nalda
: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. Is it slower than my iPhone 5? Yes. But, I think 5 seconds to open

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