Re: working forapple

[Jed Barton]

Hey Ryan,
Wouldd love to chat with you about working for apple.
My direct email is
j...@jedbarton.com


On 8/2/2016 11:37 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:

That would be me.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Karen Poulakos > wrote:


When I purchased my first iPhone, a 3S, there was a young man named
Ryan, who worked in the Chicago Apple store.  He was so helpful in
helping me to learn to use my new phone.  When I went back a few years
later, I was told that he was no longer in the store, but was working
for Apple in their corporate office.  I believe he was totally blind.

Karen P
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Subject: working forapple

Hey guys,

I thought i would throw this out there to get some input.  Someone asked
me the other day.  Does anyone know on this list of anyone who is blind
working for apple?  I've actually been asked that question many times
and it would be interesting to hear of anyone who has or is working
there, especially from an accessibility perspective.

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Re: working forapple

[Ryan Dour]

That would be me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> When I purchased my first iPhone, a 3S, there was a young man named Ryan, who 
> worked in the Chicago Apple store.  He was so helpful in helping me to learn 
> to use my new phone.  When I went back a few years later, I was told that he 
> was no longer in the store, but was working for Apple in their corporate 
> office.  I believe he was totally blind.
> 
> Karen P
> -Original Message-
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> Jed Barton
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: working forapple
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> I thought i would throw this out there to get some input.  Someone asked 
> me the other day.  Does anyone know on this list of anyone who is blind 
> working for apple?  I've actually been asked that question many times 
> and it would be interesting to hear of anyone who has or is working 
> there, especially from an accessibility perspective.
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Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

I never touched the tilt guidance, it's always been on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Ron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Make sure your tilt guidance is turned on.
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
> 
> Hi when I first got the program, I was able to get the vibration, but for 
> some reason now I don't seem to get it anymore, and I have tried but if you 
> times to scan a document sometimes it reads OK and of the times and didn't do 
> as good I don't know is there any stand I could get maybe that might help a 
> bit
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you 
>> information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how 
>> skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many 
>> degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am 
>> running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with 
>> that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used.
>> There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your 
>> phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this 
>> by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up 
>> your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to 
>> vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try 
>> to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM
>> To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org
>> Cc: CISG ; viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
>> 
>> After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a  new 
>> owner of the  FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not 
>> been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader 
>> that will tell you   That   the app, has detected text you've gotten and 
>> whether your centred correctly
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IOS 10.0 Beta and KNFB reader

[Kamal Haffar]

Hi all:

I appologise if this has already been mentioned, however, if you rely on your 
KNFB reader, then  do not install the IOS 10 Public Beta. If you do, then you 
will not be able to use the KNFB reader. Everytime you take a picture it 
crashes even with the 10.0 Beta 3 release.

Thanks,



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RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

[Ron]

Jewel,

Even if the page is on the right side, you will get that message if the phone 
is too high.

Ron & Danvers


-Original Message-
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

The software  will compensate for a certain amount of skew, but if it totally 
didn't matter how crooked you hold it compared to  the text they probably 
wouldn't have included the announcement.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

Simon!  If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that 
simply turning the page over will solve that.
As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I 
ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for 
that on its own.

 Jewel



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To: 
Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

Hi Simon,

If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you 
information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed 
your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees 
off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the 
Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't 
give you examples as to what specific wording is used.
There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your 
phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by 
putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your 
phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate 
you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to 
compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM
To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org
Cc: CISG ; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a  new owner 
of the  FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able 
to align myself very well isn't there an 
option on the l reader that will tell you   That   the app, has detected 
text you've gotten and 
whether your centred correctly

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RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

[Ron]

Hi Simon,

Make sure your tilt guidance is turned on.

Ron & Danvers
 

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

Hi when I first got the program, I was able to get the vibration, but for some 
reason now I don't seem to get it anymore, and I have tried but if you times to 
scan a document sometimes it reads OK and of the times and didn't do as good I 
don't know is there any stand I could get maybe that might help a bit

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you 
> information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how 
> skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many 
> degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am 
> running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with 
> that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used.
> There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your 
> phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this 
> by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up 
> your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to 
> vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try 
> to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM
> To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org
> Cc: CISG ; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
> 
> After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a  new 
> owner of the  FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not 
> been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader 
> that will tell you   That   the app, has detected text you've gotten and 
> whether your centred correctly
> 
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RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

[Ron]

Hi,

Usually the software will compensate for about 10º either side but, more than 
that, you lose quality.

Ron & Danvers


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

Simon!  If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that 
simply turning the page over will solve that.
As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I 
ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for 
that on its own.

 Jewel



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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:41 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

Hi Simon,

If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you 
information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed 
your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees 
off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the 
Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't 
give you examples as to what specific wording is used.
There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your 
phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by 
putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your 
phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate 
you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to 
compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM
To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org
Cc: CISG ; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader

After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a  new owner 
of the  FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able 
to align myself very well isn't there an 
option on the l reader that will tell you   That   the app, has detected 
text you've gotten and 
whether your centred correctly

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Re: a little broken siri tip for you all

[Gordon]

Oh yeah I tried everything. It wasn't even putting the text on the 
screen that the voice would speak when you ask for something. I got the 
begin and end chimes when I stopped speaking indicating that the phone 
heard what I said.



On 8/2/2016 9:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

This may sound stupid, but while Siri was inaudibley talking, did you try 
pressing the volume up button on your iPhone? Siri, volume and VoiceOver volume 
are independent of each other.


Thanks,
Ari


On Aug 2, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Gordon  wrote:

So earlier my Siri quit working. I got the chimes, but no results for anything 
including voice or text on the screen. This was driving me crazy because I knew 
my mic was working and the phone was hearing what I was saying. I turned Siri 
on and off and even did a soft reset and several reboots using the power off 
button. Finally I decided to try one last thing which fixed the problem. I 
turned both Siri and dictation off and back on. This fixed the problem. I even 
had a highly inteligent member of this group working with me to help track this 
issue down. We're both thinking technical and using lots of brain power trying 
to fix it, however it was right there in front of us all along. The only reason 
I thought to try turning off dictation is because it said that turning Siri off 
wouldn't delete the information stored on Apple's servers. You have to turn 
dictation off to do that. So just wanted to pass this along in case anyone else 
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Re: a little broken siri tip for you all

[englishrider91]

This may sound stupid, but while Siri was inaudibley talking, did you try 
pressing the volume up button on your iPhone? Siri, volume and VoiceOver volume 
are independent of each other.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> So earlier my Siri quit working. I got the chimes, but no results for 
> anything including voice or text on the screen. This was driving me crazy 
> because I knew my mic was working and the phone was hearing what I was 
> saying. I turned Siri on and off and even did a soft reset and several 
> reboots using the power off button. Finally I decided to try one last thing 
> which fixed the problem. I turned both Siri and dictation off and back on. 
> This fixed the problem. I even had a highly inteligent member of this group 
> working with me to help track this issue down. We're both thinking technical 
> and using lots of brain power trying to fix it, however it was right there in 
> front of us all along. The only reason I thought to try turning off dictation 
> is because it said that turning Siri off wouldn't delete the information 
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Re: Question regarding new iPad Mini

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello there,

Thank you so very much! You help me fix my interview. It was really driving me 
crazy, because I was working so hard to fix it. I just couldn't figure it out. 
I apologize, that was supposed to be if you. I went into settings, and into 
phone, and found what you were talking about.

Have an awesome day!

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:15 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello, actually, you need to go settings, phone, and disable calls on other 
> devices.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 12:00 am, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> If you want to disable Facetime on your iPad, go to Settings, then to 
>> Facetime, and make sure it is set to off.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question regarding new iPad Mini
>> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> Today I got my new iPad Mini. Needless to say, I am thrilled with it! I have 
>> only used it for a little bit, but I absolutely love it! I did think it 
>> would be smaller in five. But that's all right.Sorry about the mistakes in 
>> this message. I am using dictation. So I know you all know what that is like?
>> 
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>> stuff to download onto it. So I thought this would be best.
>> 
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>> and phone number we're now being used with an iPad. I thought it was pretty 
>> cool that it recognize this.
>> However, I want to go I got a phone call. Both my phone, and my iPad ring. 
>> Why did this happen?
>> How do I stop it from happening?
>> I don't want to take calls on my iPhone. I mean, on my iPad. I do want to be 
>> able to face time with certain friends, and iMessage. But that's it. Is 
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Re: Question regarding new iPad Mini

[rajmund]

Hello, actually, you need to go settings, phone, and disable calls on other 
devices.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 3 Aug 2016, at 12:00 am, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> If you want to disable Facetime on your iPad, go to Settings, then to 
> Facetime, and make sure it is set to off.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question regarding new iPad Mini
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Today I got my new iPad Mini. Needless to say, I am thrilled with it! I have 
> only used it for a little bit, but I absolutely love it! I did think it would 
> be smaller in five. But that's all right.Sorry about the mistakes in this 
> message. I am using dictation. So I know you all know what that is like?
> 
> Anyway, I set it up as a new iPad, because I did not want all my apps and 
> stuff to download onto it. So I thought this would be best.
> 
> But here is where I have a question. My iPhone informed me that my Apple ID 
> and phone number we're now being used with an iPad. I thought it was pretty 
> cool that it recognize this.
> However, I want to go I got a phone call. Both my phone, and my iPad ring. 
> Why did this happen?
> How do I stop it from happening?
> I don't want to take calls on my iPhone. I mean, on my iPad. I do want to be 
> able to face time with certain friends, and iMessage. But that's it. Is there 
> anything I can do about this?
> Any help would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you so much!
> 
> Terri
> 
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I thought this was mostly because discussing features and bugs in an IOS 
beta was in violation of the NDA all beta users agreed to.


On 02/08/16 14:34, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

No, nothing has changed, Cara does not like beta features or issues/bugs
to be discussed on this list. There are other lists for that and I think
it’s a wise decision since there are so many list members on here so
even now that public betas are available those of us who install them
are probably a very small percentage of the list membership so it really
would be of very little interest to the majority of people on this list.
Then there is always the problem that if betas are discussed some list
members are tempted to try it and as those of us who have tried beta
software know, it is definitely not for everybody and you have to be
willing to put up with problems.



Feel free to email me directly, Jennifer, if I can elp I’ll try to do so.





Regards,

Sieghard



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Jenifer Barr
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:32 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10 beta.



Hi.

I thought we weren't suposed to talk about betas on this linst? Only
bringing it up because I had a problem last year when I did it. Has
something changed? If so I have a question... But I'm not about to ask
it until I know for sure it's allowed. (Smile)

Jenifer Barr

Jenifer571 on dice world

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Mário Navarro > wrote:




Hi Shawn.
man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
Eva, Susan and Alex!
but for me Tom is the champion!
ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about
the beta.

feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
here he is:
mario@gmail.com 
thanks.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:

Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't
have enough space on your iPhone. But once it's done with the
update they should download again. Gordon, since we can't talk
about improvements or bugs in beta software on this list, you
can email me off list and I could share my findings with you.



Shawn

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On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon > wrote:



Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of
weeks ago one of my buddies was running it and he said it
went through his battery and a lot of apps weren't working
with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed since a
couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's
stable enough.





On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:

Mario,



No, it won't remove anything.



www.beta.apple.com 





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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M?rio Navarro

Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM

To: iphone group

Subject: IOS 10 beta.









hi all.

someone can tell me about the following:

I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.

to install the beta, apps that are already installed on
ios 9.3.3 are

removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in
the system?

I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember
me if the apps

were removed or not.

Does anyone know?

thanks.

cheers.



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Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, this is only true if you're comparing high end PC's to Apple. You 
can definitely get low end PC's made with less expensive components. On 
the flip side, you can also get high end PC's with most of the same 
components used in your Apple products. BTW, why is this debate being 
held on an iPhone mailing list?


On 02/08/16 20:01, Victor Gouveia wrote:

Hi Sieghard,

I have to take exception with your statement that people buy the MAC
because it's better hardware.

Don't know whether you're serious when you make that statement or not,
but Apple computers don't use hardware any different from a standard IBM
compatible/Dell/HP computer.

In other words, the hardware is exactly the same.

it would only take a user to partition his or her drive into two
partitions, format one partition for Windows, and the other for Mac.

Once done, you can install what ever OS you want on each partition.

Once installed, you can run the Windows OS, with a OS10 virtual machine,
or run and OS10 computer, with a Windows virtual machine.

From what I hear, the former is easier because Windows doesn't make you
jump through any hoops with Virtual machine set up, meaning no extra
software needed, though I really can't speak to that experience, whereas
MAC's have to install separate software and set it all up, but again, I
really can't speak to that.

Regardless, if you open up a MAC you'll notice nothing different from a
Windows computer.

Fact is, it's all in the software, which I have to admit, is slightly
better than Windows software, and I've heard that MAC's have excellent
graphics, but Windows isn't as limiting as MAC OS, otherwise, why
require a Jailbreak in order to do any serious work with it, but I'm
reaching into the land of conjecture now, so I'll quit.

Either way, statements such as yours are purely baseless.

Victor

-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

OK, so I didn't know this, apparently it can be done, but it seems to
require jumping through more hoops than one would have to when
installing Windows on a Mac. Also, the article you provided a link for
mentions this:

Before we start, we should tell you that Apple’s licence for OS X
expressly forbids it being installed on anything other than a Mac, so if
you choose to do it, don’t say we didn’t warn you.

I was always under the impression people want a Mac because it's
considered to be better hardware and of course also because of the OS.
Therefore I think if one wants a Mac then why not buy one instead of
trying to recreate an experience which in all likelihood won't be as good.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

Hello,
Well, it can be, but, as I don't think I have a  different hard drive,
unless a 64 GB SD CARD WOULD DO IT,, AND AS I have a 32 bit device, it
wouldn't be ever so successful.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-run-os-x-on-pc-3632329/



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Wayne Merritt  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?




While you can install Windows on a Mac, I don't think you can install
the Mac OS on Windows. As for how, refer to some Apple support
articles, AppleVis, or Google.

Wayne

On 8/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> Hello,
> So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to
> hijack.
> So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind?
> I say 32 bit, as I believe that mywindows 10  laptop is a 32 bit
> device. What else do I need other than an image of the MACOSX? And
> anyone knows where I could hunt off such a thing? Thanks!
>
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Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Sieghard,

I have to take exception with your statement that people buy the MAC because 
it's better hardware.


Don't know whether you're serious when you make that statement or not, but 
Apple computers don't use hardware any different from a standard IBM 
compatible/Dell/HP computer.


In other words, the hardware is exactly the same.

it would only take a user to partition his or her drive into two partitions, 
format one partition for Windows, and the other for Mac.


Once done, you can install what ever OS you want on each partition.

Once installed, you can run the Windows OS, with a OS10 virtual machine, or 
run and OS10 computer, with a Windows virtual machine.


From what I hear, the former is easier because Windows doesn't make you jump 
through any hoops with Virtual machine set up, meaning no extra software 
needed, though I really can't speak to that experience, whereas MAC's have 
to install separate software and set it all up, but again, I really can't 
speak to that.


Regardless, if you open up a MAC you'll notice nothing different from a 
Windows computer.


Fact is, it's all in the software, which I have to admit, is slightly better 
than Windows software, and I've heard that MAC's have excellent graphics, 
but Windows isn't as limiting as MAC OS, otherwise, why require a Jailbreak 
in order to do any serious work with it, but I'm reaching into the land of 
conjecture now, so I'll quit.


Either way, statements such as yours are purely baseless.

Victor

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

OK, so I didn't know this, apparently it can be done, but it seems to 
require jumping through more hoops than one would have to when installing 
Windows on a Mac. Also, the article you provided a link for mentions this:


Before we start, we should tell you that Apple’s licence for OS X expressly 
forbids it being installed on anything other than a Mac, so if you choose to 
do it, don’t say we didn’t warn you.


I was always under the impression people want a Mac because it's considered 
to be better hardware and of course also because of the OS. Therefore I 
think if one wants a Mac then why not buy one instead of trying to recreate 
an experience which in all likelihood won't be as good.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Rajmund

Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello,
Well, it can be, but, as I don't think I have a  different hard drive, 
unless a 64 GB SD CARD WOULD DO IT,, AND AS I have a 32 bit device, it 
wouldn't be ever so successful.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-run-os-x-on-pc-3632329/



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Wayne Merritt  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?




While you can install Windows on a Mac, I don't think you can install
the Mac OS on Windows. As for how, refer to some Apple support
articles, AppleVis, or Google.

Wayne

On 8/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> Hello,
> So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to 
> hijack.

> So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind?
> I say 32 bit, as I believe that mywindows 10  laptop is a 32 bit
> device. What else do I need other than an image of the MACOSX? And
> anyone knows where I could hunt off such a thing? Thanks!
>
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Re: Question regarding new iPad Mini

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello there,

First of all, no, I want to be able to use FaceTime. Dad is not my issue. But 
thank you for that hint. My problem is, anytime someone calls me on my iPhone, 
it rings on my iPad. I don't want this to happen.

I tried what Billy suggested, I went and turned off that Handoff, and both my 
iPhone, and my iPad. But the problem still exist. I even restarted the iPad, 
thinking maybe that would help. But it didn't.

Does anyone else have any more suggestions? I don't know what to do, and I 
don't want this to keep happening. Thank you,

Terri

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Billy Maynard  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> What you wanna do is turn off handoff it's under settings|general.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:53 PM
> Subject: Question regarding new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Today I got my new iPad Mini. Needless to say, I am thrilled with it! I have 
> only used it for a little bit, but I absolutely love it! I did think it would 
> be smaller in five. But that's all right.Sorry about the mistakes in this 
> message. I am using dictation. So I know you all know what that is like?
> 
> Anyway, I set it up as a new iPad, because I did not want all my apps and 
> stuff to download onto it. So I thought this would be best.
> 
> But here is where I have a question. My iPhone informed me that my Apple ID 
> and phone number we're now being used with an iPad. I thought it was pretty 
> cool that it recognize this.
> However, I want to go I got a phone call. Both my phone, and my iPad ring. 
> Why did this happen?
> How do I stop it from happening?
> I don't want to take calls on my iPhone. I mean, on my iPad. I do want to be 
> able to face time with certain friends, and iMessage. But that's it. Is there 
> anything I can do about this?
> Any help would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you so much!
> 
> Terri
> 
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Re: Seeing entire message on an iPhone

[Christopher Chaltain]

That's a flick up or down and not a flick left or right.

On 02/08/16 11:03, Kimber Gardner wrote:

When you set your roter to words, what happened when you did a one
finger flick? That's how you would move by whatever increment is set
in the roter.

On 8/2/16, Cher Bosch  wrote:

I don’t have lines on my rotor- are yours there by default?



Also, when I set the rotor to words, it did not move through the message by
words- so is there something else to do to make the open message text
accessible to navigation? Thanks.



Cher





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing entire message on an iPhone



You have to use the rotor and select what you want to read by; character,
word, or line.

To spell a word out that you do not understand, use characters on the
rotor.



Remember once you select what you want to read by on the rotor, just flick
down to read from left to right, and flick up to go back from right to
left.



HTH,



Chris




On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Cher Bosch 
wrote:

What are some gestures to move around the text of a received message so that
you can read the entire message?



And is there a way to spell out a word you cannot understand with VO?



Thanks for any/all help J



Cher

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Re: Question regarding new iPad Mini

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

What you wanna do is turn off handoff it's under settings|general.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:53 PM
Subject: Question regarding new iPad Mini


Hello everybody,

Today I got my new iPad Mini. Needless to say, I am thrilled with it! I have 
only used it for a little bit, but I absolutely love it! I did think it 
would be smaller in five. But that's all right.Sorry about the mistakes in 
this message. I am using dictation. So I know you all know what that is 
like?


Anyway, I set it up as a new iPad, because I did not want all my apps and 
stuff to download onto it. So I thought this would be best.


But here is where I have a question. My iPhone informed me that my Apple ID 
and phone number we're now being used with an iPad. I thought it was pretty 
cool that it recognize this.
However, I want to go I got a phone call. Both my phone, and my iPad ring. 
Why did this happen?

How do I stop it from happening?
I don't want to take calls on my iPhone. I mean, on my iPad. I do want to be 
able to face time with certain friends, and iMessage. But that's it. Is 
there anything I can do about this?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you so much!

Terri

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Re: Question regarding new iPad Mini

[MamaPeach]

If you want to disable Facetime on your iPad, go to Settings, then to 
Facetime, and make sure it is set to off.


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question regarding new iPad Mini

Hello everybody,

Today I got my new iPad Mini. Needless to say, I am thrilled with it! I have 
only used it for a little bit, but I absolutely love it! I did think it 
would be smaller in five. But that's all right.Sorry about the mistakes in 
this message. I am using dictation. So I know you all know what that is 
like?


Anyway, I set it up as a new iPad, because I did not want all my apps and 
stuff to download onto it. So I thought this would be best.


But here is where I have a question. My iPhone informed me that my Apple ID 
and phone number we're now being used with an iPad. I thought it was pretty 
cool that it recognize this.
However, I want to go I got a phone call. Both my phone, and my iPad ring. 
Why did this happen?

How do I stop it from happening?
I don't want to take calls on my iPhone. I mean, on my iPad. I do want to be 
able to face time with certain friends, and iMessage. But that's it. Is 
there anything I can do about this?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you so much!

Terri

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a little broken siri tip for you all

[Gordon]

So earlier my Siri quit working. I got the chimes, but no results for 
anything including voice or text on the screen. This was driving me 
crazy because I knew my mic was working and the phone was hearing what I 
was saying. I turned Siri on and off and even did a soft reset and 
several reboots using the power off button. Finally I decided to try one 
last thing which fixed the problem. I turned both Siri and dictation off 
and back on. This fixed the problem. I even had a highly inteligent 
member of this group working with me to help track this issue down. 
We're both thinking technical and using lots of brain power trying to 
fix it, however it was right there in front of us all along. The only 
reason I thought to try turning off dictation is because it said that 
turning Siri off wouldn't delete the information stored on Apple's 
servers. You have to turn dictation off to do that. So just wanted to 
pass this along in case anyone else ever has this issue.


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Question regarding new iPad Mini

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

Today I got my new iPad Mini. Needless to say, I am thrilled with it! I have 
only used it for a little bit, but I absolutely love it! I did think it would 
be smaller in five. But that's all right.Sorry about the mistakes in this 
message. I am using dictation. So I know you all know what that is like?

Anyway, I set it up as a new iPad, because I did not want all my apps and stuff 
to download onto it. So I thought this would be best.

But here is where I have a question. My iPhone informed me that my Apple ID and 
phone number we're now being used with an iPad. I thought it was pretty cool 
that it recognize this.
However, I want to go I got a phone call. Both my phone, and my iPad ring. Why 
did this happen?
How do I stop it from happening?
I don't want to take calls on my iPhone. I mean, on my iPad. I do want to be 
able to face time with certain friends, and iMessage. But that's it. Is there 
anything I can do about this?
Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you so much!

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Alan Lemly]

Terri,

 

I think you were just bitten by the dictation bug but I'm glad you were since 
it made me smile. I see your last post referred to Voice Dream as boys dream. 
Boys do indeed dream so no arguments here.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 1:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and 
other files?

 

Hello Richard, and Carla, thank you for all of this great information. You both 
helped me out greatly. I really appreciate it.
Tomorrow when I get my iPad mini, I will get everything set up on it, including 
boys dream.

Thank you again!

Terri


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

Hi,

Yes. Voice Dream Reader just copies the file from DropBox, it doesn't move them.

In Voice Dream Reader, in settings, Content Sources, double tap on DropBox, and 
if this is the first time you will need to enter your Dropbox password, or 
maybe just answer yes to enable DropBox, it has been a while since I set it up.

Then, when you are in the main screen, double tap on add, then select Dropbox. 
You may have to also then select a folder in Dropbox where your files are, but 
when you select an mp3 file, it will download it. Then you can play it like any 
book or file.

When you finish and delete it from Voice Dream, it will still be on your 
Dropbox.

I hope that helps.

You also should read the help file, and maybe go to AppleVis and search for 
podcasts on Voice Dream Reader.

Later,

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello Richard, and list

I do have voice dream reader. I paid for it quite a while back. I don't know 
much about it though. I only used it a few times. I must admit, I do not know 
all of it features. Would I be able to take my files and put them into voice 
dream reader?
I don't want to put them in there, and take them directly out of dropbox. I 
think I would rather copied them, if I could. Is that possible?

Thank you so much!

Terri

 


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

I'm not sure about free, but Voice Dream Reader will do all of that and more.

I have not tried adding mp3 files from DropBox to the Audible app, but that 
might be a possibility and it is free and would remember where you left off.

Enjoy,

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hi everybody,

Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on my 
iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. However, I 
was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about any of 
this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.

If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, that 
will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you can 
start up right where I left off. Is this possible?

Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!

Thank you,

Terri



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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Peter Logan]

Beta-2 was pretty solid… Didn't seem to drain the battery like the first beta… 
Beta three came out today seems pretty solid…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of 
> my buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot 
> of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed 
> since a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable 
> enough.
> 
> 
>> On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:
>> Mario,
>> 
>> No, it won't remove anything.
>> 
>> www.beta.apple.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M?rio Navarro
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
>> To: iphone group
>> Subject: IOS 10 beta.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> hi all.
>> someone can tell me about the following:
>> I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
>> to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
>> removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
>> I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
>> were removed or not.
>> Does anyone know?
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>> 
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another free gps program

[Mike Arrigo]

Not sure if anyone has heard of the GPS app called here maps. It used 
to be totally inaccessible, but recently they have renamed the app, 
it's now called here we go and is somewhat useable now. It provides 
turn by turn directions, kind of like google maps. The main issue is 
that some of the icons are not labeled, you can still figure out what 
they do in most cases, but still, if anyone wants to try it and submit 
feedback and ask the developers to label the icons better, the 
directions the app provides work really well. If they receive feedback 
from several users, it may make a difference.


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Re: A bit OT, New Fire 7" tablet

[Cheryl Lenartiene]

Hi Adrienne,

I couldn't find any resources, either. I ended up researching Talkback 
generally and VoiceView specifically, and I just learned on my own.

Since this is off topic, I'll just get you started by saying that to enable 
VoiceView, press and hold the power button until you hear the piano tones, as 
if you were going to power off the unit. Then, release the power button and 
press and hold two fingers on the screen, placed slightly apart, until 
VoiceView is enabled. You will have to hold your fingers in place for several 
seconds.
Once VoiceView is enabled, you'll be taken through a tutorial to help you learn 
the gestures, and more help is available under the accessibility section of the 
Fire's settings.

Be prepared for a learning curve. Precision and speed are key when executing 
the gestures, whereas iOS is more forgiving. You'll need patience and practice, 
but you'll get it.

Thanks, moderators. I realize I've pushed the envelope.


Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 3:14 PM, 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, Apple Fan Girl forever and all, but I can’t resist a bargain and I got 
> one of those bottom of the range Fire tablets for GBP60 including case and SD 
> card so I thought it would do for places I wouldn’t want to take a nice Apple 
> thing.
> 
> I have managed to plug it in to charge, but now I’m a bit stuck. I realise I 
> will have to get a sighted person to switch speech on, but does anyone know 
> of any resources I could check out? My MBP is refusing to read me the on-line 
> instruction thing, no doubt on grounds of good taste. 
> 
> BTW, I know it’s only cheap, but my goodness me, what a difference even in 
> the packaging from Apple. 
> 
> Best
> 
> Adrienne
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

hi.
:D:It is because I am very satisfied with IOS 10! lol!

thanks.
cheers.
Às 18:45 de 02/08/2016, rajmund escreveu:

Hello you can also contact me about the beta if you wish. PS. You seem to like 
exclamation marks, too, LOL.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro
Sent: 02 August 2016 17:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta.




Hi Shawn.
man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
Eva, Susan and Alex!
but for me Tom is the champion!
ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about the beta.

feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
here he is:
mario@gmail.com
thanks.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:

Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough space 
on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should download again. 
Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in beta software on this 
list, you can email me off list and I could share my findings with you.

Shawn
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On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:

Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of my 
buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot of 
apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed since 
a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable enough.


On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of M?rio Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3
are removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the
apps were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.


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RE: IOS 10 beta.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, nothing has changed, Cara does not like beta features or issues/bugs to be 
discussed on this list. There are other lists for that and I think it’s a wise 
decision since there are so many list members on here so even now that public 
betas are available those of us who install them are probably a very small 
percentage of the list membership so it really would be of very little interest 
to the majority of people on this list. Then there is always the problem that 
if betas are discussed some list members are tempted to try it and as those of 
us who have tried beta software know, it is definitely not for everybody and 
you have to be willing to put up with problems.

Feel free to email me directly, Jennifer, if I can elp I’ll try to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta.

Hi.
I thought we weren't suposed to talk about betas on this linst? Only bringing 
it up because I had a problem last year when I did it. Has something changed? 
If so I have a question... But I'm not about to ask it until I know for sure 
it's allowed. (Smile)

Jenifer Barr
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Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Mário Navarro 
> wrote:



Hi Shawn.
man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
Eva, Susan and Alex!
but for me Tom is the champion!
ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about the beta.

feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
here he is:
mario@gmail.com
thanks.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:

Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough space 
on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should download again. 
Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in beta software on this 
list, you can email me off list and I could share my findings with you.

Shawn
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On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon 
> wrote:

Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of my 
buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot of 
apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed since 
a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable enough.


On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:
Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M?rio Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.

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A bit OT, New Fire 7" tablet

['ChalmersAS' via VIPhone]

OK, Apple Fan Girl forever and all, but I can’t resist a bargain and I got one 
of those bottom of the range Fire tablets for GBP60 including case and SD card 
so I thought it would do for places I wouldn’t want to take a nice Apple thing.

I have managed to plug it in to charge, but now I’m a bit stuck. I realise I 
will have to get a sighted person to switch speech on, but does anyone know of 
any resources I could check out? My MBP is refusing to read me the on-line 
instruction thing, no doubt on grounds of good taste. 

BTW, I know it’s only cheap, but my goodness me, what a difference even in the 
packaging from Apple. 

Best

Adrienne

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RE: IOS 10 beta.

[rajmund]

Hello you can also contact me about the beta if you wish. PS. You seem to like 
exclamation marks, too, LOL.

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Sent: 02 August 2016 17:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta.




Hi Shawn.
man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
Eva, Susan and Alex!
but for me Tom is the champion!
ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about the beta.

feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
here he is:
mario@gmail.com
thanks.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:
> Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough 
> space on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should download 
> again. Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in beta 
> software on this list, you can email me off list and I could share my 
> findings with you.
>
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
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>
>> On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of 
>> my buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot 
>> of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed 
>> since a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable 
>> enough.
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:
>>> Mario,
>>>
>>> No, it won't remove anything.
>>>
>>> www.beta.apple.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of M?rio Navarro
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
>>> To: iphone group
>>> Subject: IOS 10 beta.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>> someone can tell me about the following:
>>> I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
>>> to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 
>>> are removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
>>> I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the 
>>> apps were removed or not.
>>> Does anyone know?
>>> thanks.
>>> cheers.
>>>
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Gordon]

I wasn't aware that we weren't supposed to discuss betas out here.


On 8/2/2016 12:31 PM, Jenifer Barr wrote:

Hi.
I thought we weren't suposed to talk about betas on this linst? Only 
bringing it up because I had a problem last year when I did it. Has 
something changed? If so I have a question... But I'm not about to ask 
it until I know for sure it's allowed. (Smile)


Jenifer Barr
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Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Mário Navarro > wrote:






Hi Shawn.
man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
Eva, Susan and Alex!
but for me Tom is the champion!
ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about 
the beta.


feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
here he is:
mario@gmail.com 
thanks.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:
Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have 
enough space on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they 
should download again. Gordon, since we can't talk about 
improvements or bugs in beta software on this list, you can email me 
off list and I could share my findings with you.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
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Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 

On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon > wrote:


Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks 
ago one of my buddies was running it and he said it went through 
his battery and a lot of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was 
wondering if this has changed since a couple of weeks ago. I'm 
interested in trying it if it's stable enough.



On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com 


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M?rio Navarro

Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.


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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi.
I thought we weren't suposed to talk about betas on this linst? Only bringing 
it up because I had a problem last year when I did it. Has something changed? 
If so I have a question... But I'm not about to ask it until I know for sure 
it's allowed. (Smile) 

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Shawn.
> man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
> I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
> and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
> Eva, Susan and Alex!
> but for me Tom is the champion!
> ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
> god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
> Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about the beta.
> 
> feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
> here he is:
> mario@gmail.com
> thanks.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:
>> Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough 
>> space on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should 
>> download again. Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in 
>> beta software on this list, you can email me off list and I could share my 
>> findings with you.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of 
>>> my buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot 
>>> of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed 
>>> since a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable 
>>> enough.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:
 Mario,
 
 No, it won't remove anything.
 
 www.beta.apple.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of M?rio Navarro
 Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
 To: iphone group
 Subject: IOS 10 beta.
 
 
 
 
 hi all.
 someone can tell me about the following:
 I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
 to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
 removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
 I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
 were removed or not.
 Does anyone know?
 thanks.
 cheers.
 
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[christopher hallsworth]

I will just say this, and no more after that.

I am really liking this iOS 10 beta so far. Again, shall say no more on the 
subject.


> On 2 Aug 2016, at 17:49, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Shawn.
> man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
> I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
> and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
> Eva, Susan and Alex!
> but for me Tom is the champion!
> ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
> god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
> Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about the beta.
> 
> feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
> here he is:
> mario@gmail.com
> thanks.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:
>> Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough 
>> space on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should 
>> download again. Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in 
>> beta software on this list, you can email me off list and I could share my 
>> findings with you.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of 
>>> my buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot 
>>> of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed 
>>> since a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable 
>>> enough.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:
 Mario,
 
 No, it won't remove anything.
 
 www.beta.apple.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of M?rio Navarro
 Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
 To: iphone group
 Subject: IOS 10 beta.
 
 
 
 
 hi all.
 someone can tell me about the following:
 I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
 to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
 removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
 I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
 were removed or not.
 Does anyone know?
 thanks.
 cheers.
 
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

Hi Shawn.
man, the voice of Tom is fantastic!
I love the voice of Tom on iOS!
and we still have more other 3 great voices for USA!
Eva, Susan and Alex!
but for me Tom is the champion!
ok, ok, ok, I will not speak any more  of the beta!
god I am very happy with this beta of IOS 10!
Shawn ok I will add your address if we need to exchange ideas about the 
beta.


feel free to add my address and write whenever you want.
here he is:
mario@gmail.com
thanks.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:

Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough space 
on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should download again. 
Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in beta software on this 
list, you can email me off list and I could share my findings with you.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:

Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of my 
buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot of 
apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed since 
a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable enough.


On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M?rio Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.


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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Beta worked well here too with the exception of KNFB Reader. This will be 
resolved at release no doubt.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Aug 2016, at 17:13, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hi.
> man, I'm loving the beta of IOS 10.
> everything is working normally.
> god, it does not seem a beta! ...
> yes, I uninstalled some apps that I always wanted to do!
> this was one of the greatest joys I have had in IOS 10.
> I already uninstalled 7 apps!
> I'm loving the new voices!
> voice over is light as in IOS 9!
> it seems as if I am using the VO in IOS 9!
> this new system is fantastic!
> I sold my iPhone 4 s, and now bought the iPhone 5s and the IOS beta 10 is 
> fabulous as the IOS 9!
> I'm not sorry to have installed the beta and try to help with my feedback!
> great system!
> all my apps run smoothly!
> It does not seem a beta!
> for now love the IOS 10!
> and will still get much better!
> thanks apple.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:
>> Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough 
>> space on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should 
>> download again. Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in 
>> beta software on this list, you can email me off list and I could share my 
>> findings with you.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of 
>>> my buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot 
>>> of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed 
>>> since a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable 
>>> enough.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:
 Mario,
 
 No, it won't remove anything.
 
 www.beta.apple.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of M?rio Navarro
 Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
 To: iphone group
 Subject: IOS 10 beta.
 
 
 
 
 hi all.
 someone can tell me about the following:
 I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
 to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
 removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
 I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
 were removed or not.
 Does anyone know?
 thanks.
 cheers.
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WW Recording Correctly

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi, 

 

Andrew was kind enough to send me a message indicating the ww mobile app is
now reporting the number of points in foods correctly. 

 

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Sending A Video Via WhatsApp?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

I have Iphone5S with IOS9.3.

I am trying to send a one-minute-18-second video via WhatsApp. I don't know
the size of the video and I am on a very slow internet connection.

The video starts sending but I get an error  message sometimes after %22 and
sometime after %33 that it could not be sent.

Is there a way that I can compress the video?

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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

hi.
man, I'm loving the beta of IOS 10.
everything is working normally.
god, it does not seem a beta! ...
yes, I uninstalled some apps that I always wanted to do!
this was one of the greatest joys I have had in IOS 10.
I already uninstalled 7 apps!
I'm loving the new voices!
voice over is light as in IOS 9!
it seems as if I am using the VO in IOS 9!
this new system is fantastic!
I sold my iPhone 4 s, and now bought the iPhone 5s and the IOS beta 10 
is fabulous as the IOS 9!

I'm not sorry to have installed the beta and try to help with my feedback!
great system!
all my apps run smoothly!
It does not seem a beta!
for now love the IOS 10!
and will still get much better!
thanks apple.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:

Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough space 
on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should download again. 
Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in beta software on this 
list, you can email me off list and I could share my findings with you.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:

Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of my 
buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot of 
apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed since 
a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable enough.


On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M?rio Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.


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Re: Seeing entire message on an iPhone

[Kimber Gardner]

When you set your roter to words, what happened when you did a one
finger flick? That's how you would move by whatever increment is set
in the roter.

On 8/2/16, Cher Bosch  wrote:
> I don’t have lines on my rotor- are yours there by default?
>
>
>
> Also, when I set the rotor to words, it did not move through the message by
> words- so is there something else to do to make the open message text
> accessible to navigation? Thanks.
>
>
>
> Cher
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 3:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing entire message on an iPhone
>
>
>
> You have to use the rotor and select what you want to read by; character,
> word, or line.
>
> To spell a word out that you do not understand, use characters on the
> rotor.
>
>
>
> Remember once you select what you want to read by on the rotor, just flick
> down to read from left to right, and flick up to go back from right to
> left.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Cher Bosch 
> wrote:
>
> What are some gestures to move around the text of a received message so that
> you can read the entire message?
>
>
>
> And is there a way to spell out a word you cannot understand with VO?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any/all help J
>
>
>
> Cher
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RE: Seeing entire message on an iPhone

[Cher Bosch]

I don’t have lines on my rotor- are yours there by default?

 

Also, when I set the rotor to words, it did not move through the message by 
words- so is there something else to do to make the open message text 
accessible to navigation? Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing entire message on an iPhone

 

You have to use the rotor and select what you want to read by; character, word, 
or line.

To spell a word out that you do not understand, use characters on the rotor.

 

Remember once you select what you want to read by on the rotor, just flick down 
to read from left to right, and flick up to go back from right to left.

 

HTH,

 

Chris

 


On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:

What are some gestures to move around the text of a received message so that 
you can read the entire message? 

 

And is there a way to spell out a word you cannot understand with VO?

 

Thanks for any/all help J

 

Cher

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Re: Thermostat confusion.

[englishrider91]

No, I was talking about the ones from Radio Thermostat. Thanks, though.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> If you are talking about thermostats.com the cheaper unit is for single stage 
> systems and the model 3000 will work with both single and two stage systems.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> I went to the website, but couldn't find out a lot of information about them. 
> For instance, I'm not really certain what the differences are between the two 
> options. Do you know of any podcasts out there that demonstrate either 
> thermostat and the app?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> As mentioned it is a Wi-Fi connected thermostat and it has an app. It is 
>> like the Nest thermostat, a piece of hardware and an app to control it, just 
>> less expensive and from a different company. I Have had one of these at home 
>> and 2 at my retail business which has separate furnaces on the main floor 
>> and first floor and they've been working perfectly for 3 or 4 years now. I 
>> am not saying that Nest is no good, but just mentioned 
>> www.RadioThermostat.com as an alternative and one that was one of the first 
>> and I know that in the States you can buy the thermostats at Home Depot for 
>> around $100; at least I read this in some posts from list members who said 
>> so.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.
>> 
>> I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
>> different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like 
>> the Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
>> Thermostats?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ari,
>>> 
>>> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
>>> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and 
>>> also work very well.
>>> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
>>> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
>>> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
>>> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
>>> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
>>> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause 
>>> your air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 
>>> degrees, once the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 
>>> it will turn off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you 
>>> set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 
>>> 70 degrees by causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Email List 
>>> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
>>> 
>>> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
>>> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this 
>>> one, but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really 
>>> understand how thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What 
>>> does setting the temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? 
>>> And is the answer to that question different when you're talking about air 
>>> conditioning versus heating?
>>> 
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Re: fat bug discovered in latest whatsapp update

[Davy Cuppens]

Afik 

The problem is gone by deleting all of whatsapp’s content, then delete the app, 
reset the random mem of the iphone, putting it on and off and reinstall 
whatsapp. 
But now when I press and hold the photo-video button, I still get at first the 
sound indicating a photo is made, followed iimediately by the video sound and 
so video is recorded again. 

Very strange this but the problem is solved here. Maybe could other folks test 
this here? When recording video with whatsapp 2.16.7 if they also at first get 
the foto click sound while beginning a video?
Regards
Davy 

From: Afik Sofir 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:26 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: FW: fat bug discovered in latest whatsapp update

 

 

 

Hi, 

 

Here is the whatsapp answer about davy's concern.

 

 

From: WhatsApp Support [mailto:supp...@support.whatsapp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:15 AM
To: Afik Sofir
Subject: RE: fat bug discovered in latest whatsapp update

 

##- WhatsApp Support -##

Hi,

Sorry for the delay! We have received many emails recently, and we do our best 
to answer them all. Thank you for your patience.

If possible, can you provide us with a video recording to help us understand 
more about the issue you are experiencing. You can do so by using another 
device (eg. camera or your friend's phone) to record the video. 

Please record the video in one of the following file formats:

  a.. .mov 
  b.. .mp4 
  c.. .3gp
Best Regards/Salam, 
Jenna

WhatsApp Support Team

Interested in translating for us? Please visit our website: 
http://translate.whatsapp.com

Take a look at our FAQ: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq




Hi folks 



With the latest update, you nolonger can make videos in whatsapp. Doubletapping 
and holding the button foto or video just creates a photo not a video anymore. 



Regards 

Davy 

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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough space 
on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should download again. 
Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in beta software on this 
list, you can email me off list and I could share my findings with you.

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of 
> my buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot 
> of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed 
> since a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable 
> enough.
> 
> 
> On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:
>> Mario,
>> 
>> No, it won't remove anything.
>> 
>> www.beta.apple.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M?rio Navarro
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
>> To: iphone group
>> Subject: IOS 10 beta.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> hi all.
>> someone can tell me about the following:
>> I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
>> to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
>> removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
>> I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
>> were removed or not.
>> Does anyone know?
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>> 
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Re: question about reading music

[Devin Prater]

Check out Lilypond or ABC. Both are music notation systems. I doubt they have 
iOS apps, but you can write in the notation, then create the PDF on the 
computer. I'm sure there are example files on the Internet you can read. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Eden  wrote:
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> Is there a way to say read the sheet musiac of something with voiceover? I 
> know there is with Windows, but it seems it's a costly piece of software. I'd 
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question about reading music

[Eden]

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there is with Windows, but it seems it's a costly piece of software. I'd like 
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

thanks friend.
I'll install the beta right now.
greatly appreciated new features, and want to help improve the system 
with my feedback.

I also want to see how the beta runs on my Phone 5 s.
if it gets too heavy or is equal to the IOS 9.
I have heard much good of this beta.
thanks for the link, but I already have everything prepared.
thanks.
cheers.

Às 13:58 de 02/08/2016, Afik Sofir escreveu:

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


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Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
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Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.



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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

thanks friend.
I'll install the beta right now.
greatly appreciated new features, and want to help improve the system 
with my feedback.

I also want to see how the beta runs on my Phone 5 s.
if it gets too heavy or is equal to the IOS 9.
I have heard much good of this beta.
thanks.
cheers.

Às 14:02 de 02/08/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

Hello,
Won't remove anything. For me, things have even remained opened in the app 
switcher.



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Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:40 pm
Subject: IOS 10 beta.





hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
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I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Won't remove anything. For me, things have even remained opened in the app 
switcher. 



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To: iphone group  
Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:40 pm
Subject: IOS 10 beta.

>
>
> 
> 
> hi all.
> someone can tell me about the following:
> I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
> to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are 
> removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
> I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps 
> were removed or not.
> Does anyone know?
> thanks.
> cheers.
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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Gordon]

Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one 
of my buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and 
a lot of apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this 
has changed since a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if 
it's stable enough.



On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


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hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.



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RE: IOS 10 beta.

[Afik Sofir]

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


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hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are 
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps 
were removed or not.
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IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are 
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps 
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Apple Music question

[Roger Frischenmeyer]

Hi, is there a way when you add files to your iCloud to have Apple Music not 
match them? I have some songs I have the original version and when they match 
them it is a later version that I don't like is well. Any ideas would help. 
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Re: Question regarding apps and other devices

[MamaPeach]

Yes, go into the app store, click on the tab at the bottom labeled Updates, 
then look for a button that says purchased, this will show all of the apps 
you ever installed using your Apple ID and you can reinstall them from 
there.


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Subject: Question regarding apps and other devices

Hello everybody,

I was wondering, is there anyway to see all of the apps I have purchased, or 
free, somehow, on my new iPad Mini, once it arrives? I know when I got my 
new iPhone, I didn't have to try to find all of the apps and install them by 
myself. Somehow, I found a list of them, and I just went through the list 
and downloaded them all. But I don't remember how I did this. Does anyone 
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Re: osx on windows computer?

[Devin Prater]

Hi,
If Windows is slow on the computer, Mac will be slow as well. I'd 
recommend installing Linux. Look up "sonar gnu linux" or "vinux" If you 
really need speed, go with "talking arch" which is command line, but 
along with Emacs and Emacspeak edbrowse, it can be pretty modern-feeling.

On 08/01/2016 08:39 AM, Gianni wrote:
Friends, I have a windows computer who is getting slow, but can I 
install osx on it? If yes, how?



Gianni

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Question regarding apps and other devices

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

I was wondering, is there anyway to see all of the apps I have purchased, or 
free, somehow, on my new iPad Mini, once it arrives? I know when I got my new 
iPhone, I didn't have to try to find all of the apps and install them by 
myself. Somehow, I found a list of them, and I just went through the list and 
downloaded them all. But I don't remember how I did this. Does anyone know what 
I am talking about?

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Richard, and Carla, thank you for all of this great information. You both 
helped me out greatly. I really appreciate it.
Tomorrow when I get my iPad mini, I will get everything set up on it, including 
boys dream.

Thank you again!

Terri

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> On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes. Voice Dream Reader just copies the file from DropBox, it doesn't move 
> them.
> In Voice Dream Reader, in settings, Content Sources, double tap on DropBox, 
> and if this is the first time you will need to enter your Dropbox password, 
> or maybe just answer yes to enable DropBox, it has been a while since I set 
> it up.
> Then, when you are in the main screen, double tap on add, then select 
> Dropbox. You may have to also then select a folder in Dropbox where your 
> files are, but when you select an mp3 file, it will download it. Then you can 
> play it like any book or file.
> When you finish and delete it from Voice Dream, it will still be on your 
> Dropbox.
> I hope that helps.
> You also should read the help file, and maybe go to AppleVis and search for 
> podcasts on Voice Dream Reader.
> Later,
> Richard
>  
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Richard, and list
>> 
>> I do have voice dream reader. I paid for it quite a while back. I don't know 
>> much about it though. I only used it a few times. I must admit, I do not 
>> know all of it features. Would I be able to take my files and put them into 
>> voice dream reader?
>> I don't want to put them in there, and take them directly out of dropbox. I 
>> think I would rather copied them, if I could. Is that possible?
>> 
>> Thank you so much!
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure about free, but Voice Dream Reader will do all of that and 
>>> more.
>>> I have not tried adding mp3 files from DropBox to the Audible app, but that 
>>> might be a possibility and it is free and would remember where you left off.
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everybody,
 
 Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on 
 my iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. 
 However, I was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
 If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
 Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about 
 any of this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.
 
 If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, 
 that will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
 I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you 
 can start up right where I left off. Is this possible?
 
 Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!
 
 Thank you,
 
 Terri
 
 
 
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FW: fat bug discovered in latest whatsapp update

[Afik Sofir]

 

 

 

Hi, 

 

Here is the whatsapp answer about davy's concern.

 

 

From: WhatsApp Support [mailto:supp...@support.whatsapp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:15 AM
To: Afik Sofir
Subject: RE: fat bug discovered in latest whatsapp update

 

##- WhatsApp Support -##

Hi,

Sorry for the delay! We have received many emails recently, and we do our best 
to answer them all. Thank you for your patience.

If possible, can you provide us with a video recording to help us understand 
more about the issue you are experiencing. You can do so by using another 
device (eg. camera or your friend's phone) to record the video. 

Please record the video in one of the following file formats:

*   .mov 
*   .mp4 
*   .3gp

Best Regards/Salam, 
Jenna

WhatsApp Support Team

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Take a look at our FAQ: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq

  _  

Hi folks 



With the latest update, you nolonger can make videos in whatsapp. Doubletapping 
and holding the button foto or video just creates a photo not a video anymore. 



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