Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Kay Malmquist]

Mark,
Glad I made you laugh.  I have told many people that and some even agree 
with me.  Take care and keep laughing.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Till we speak again,
may the warm winds of Heaven
blow softly upon your house,
may the great spirit bless all who enter there,
may your moccasins make happy tracks in many snows,
And may the rainbow always touch your shoulder.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:46 PM
Subject: RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


Kay,

I cannot stop laughing at your comment.

Wow but you did make my day.  Thank you so much.

Still smiling,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe

The voice thing is so subjective.  Everyone is different.  The regular 
Samantha voice sounds to me like she is gripping a cigarette between her 
teeth and is having a bad hair day.  Just my opinion though.  It used to be 
much worse with the old Garmin GPS.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Till we speak again,
may the warm winds of Heaven
blow softly upon your house,
may the great spirit bless all who enter there, may your moccasins make 
happy tracks in many snows, And may the rainbow always touch your shoulder.
- Original Message -
From: "Angie Nutt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel?
Maybe


Yes I think Samantha is a particularly good voice, very clear and somehow
gives me a sense of wellbeing. I also don't use the enhanced version. I find
I'm not so keen on the enhanced voices I've heard samples of.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 07:20, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>
> Hi Mark and all.
> I have read several books in iBooks and Kindel with Samantha. Call me
> crazy but I enjoy her reading a lot. I've tried other voice-over voices,
> but I'm just used to Samantha. Not the enhanced version either. Lol.
> Jen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
>> Braille display.
>>
>> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the
>> VoiceOver
>> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>>
>> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
>> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
>> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
>> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.
>> Yes,
>> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used
>> my
>> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>>
>> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the
>> audible
>> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like
>> the
>> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
>>
>> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
>> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
>> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
>> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>>
>> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
>> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is
>> definitely
>> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a
>> few
>> dollars.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[M. Taylor]

Amen, Michael, Amen!

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

It depends on the book. There ar definitely times when I prefer a human 
narrator. However, especially when I want to use a book as a reference rather 
than just listn to it for enjoyment, having the Kindle or other ebook format is 
priceless. I have over 1800 Kindle books and even more in epub, pdf and Apple 
Books formats. Voice Dream Reader with the Ivona Brian, James or Sharon voice 
is great. When using VoiceOver, I go with Alex or the female British or 
American Siri voices. Never thought of trying Samantha but I'll make a point of 
doing that now.

I really appreciate being able to have a huge library of Kindle books at hand. 
The audio books are prety bulky in comparison particularly where long series 
are involved. I shudder to think how much room the whole Expanse series would 
take up even with Audible's nice data compression. I don't have to worry about 
having a whole series on my iPHONe with ebooks but have often resorted to 
deleting audio books in order to recover space I needed.

Every once in a while, I stop and reflect how amazing it is that in less than a 
decade, we've come from not being able to get books in accessible format at any 
price to now when it makes sense to talk about which voice we prefer to read 
damned near anything we want to with. Even more stunning, it's sometimes 
cheeper to buy human narrated books than the same regular ebooks. To top it 
off, we can fit everything including thousands of fully accessible books into a 
pocket.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 1:35 PM Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
As for me, I love the James voice for male-character books, or also it could be 
Paul from Neospeech since it reminds me of the Kurzweil1000 days; for 
female-character books, I like Kate from Neospeech. Be as it is, for me a 
human-narrated book is paradise! But as some of you guys have already 
mentioned, if a book isn’t available on BARD, Audible or scribd, I’d have to do 
with the TTS reading.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 16 abr 2019, a la(s) 8:14 a. m., Russ Kiehne  escribió:

> In my case, I perfer Neospeech Kate using voice dream reader over using 
> Samantha TTS engine to read Kindle books.
> 
> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kelly,

Wow!  That is a wonderful testimony.

I wish I had been there with you.  

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

The first cell phone I ever b bought was an iPhone 5 on December 21,
2012 at the Apple store on North Michigan Avenue in Chicago. This was when 
Apple was becoming a cultural phenomenon and the stores were tourist 
destinations. Hundreds of tourists were packed into this storefront to watch 
Apple lovers so I had a little trouble getting noticed at first.  The woman who 
helped me was also extremely helpful and enthusiastic.  After I told her this 
was my first cell phone ever, she found An Apple Trainer who spent an hour 
showing me how to use VoiceOver gestures with my iPhone 5.  It was the most 
unbelievable and empowering unboxing I have ever had in my life.

Kelly



On 4/14/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I just returned from a short vacation to Hawaii.
>
> While there, I discovered that there is an Apple Store located in the 
> beautiful Royal Hawaiian Hotel and Resort down at Waikiki Beach.
>
> Wow!  To say that the customer service was world class would be the 
> understatement of the highest degree.
>
> Now I've never been to any of Apple's flagship stores, here on the 
> mainland, but I'll bet, beans to bacon, that the Royal Hawaiian 
> location mirrors them, precisely, in terms of enthusiasm, class, and 
> that ineffable quality that sets Apple apart from other tech 
> companies.
>
> As for the Apple representatives?  Well, they were the most attentive 
> and gracious employees I've yet to encounter at any Apple Store.  In 
> fact, I was so impressed that I actually visited the store twice, just 
> to see if my initial impression was accurate; and yes, it was, indeed.
>
> Now when I travel, I like to purchase products from significant store 
> locations.  For example, I have purchased items from the first 
> Starbucks store, the first Nordstrom store, Amazon Go, etc.
>
> So of course I had to buy something from the Royal Hawaiian  Apple 
> Store because I may never get that way, again.  The problem is that I 
> couldn't think of anything I needed, (smile).
>
> In the end, I decided to buy a secondary iPad charger for my new iPad Pro.
> I am using it to more rapidly charge my beloved iPHone 8 Plus.
>
> While all of my local Apple stores are great places to explore the 
> world of Apple, I can definitely say that the Royal Hawaiian location 
> is a cut above and has forever changed my idea of what world class 
> customer service looks and feels like.
>
> I loved Hawaii but, as the saying goes, there's no place like home.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Mark
>
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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[M. Taylor]

Kay, 

I cannot stop laughing at your comment.  

Wow but you did make my day.  Thank you so much.  

Still smiling,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

The voice thing is so subjective.  Everyone is different.  The regular Samantha 
voice sounds to me like she is gripping a cigarette between her teeth and is 
having a bad hair day.  Just my opinion though.  It used to be much worse with 
the old Garmin GPS.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Till we speak again,
may the warm winds of Heaven
blow softly upon your house,
may the great spirit bless all who enter there, may your moccasins make happy 
tracks in many snows, And may the rainbow always touch your shoulder.
- Original Message -
From: "Angie Nutt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


Yes I think Samantha is a particularly good voice, very clear and somehow 
gives me a sense of wellbeing. I also don't use the enhanced version. I find 
I'm not so keen on the enhanced voices I've heard samples of.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 07:20, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>
> Hi Mark and all.
> I have read several books in iBooks and Kindel with Samantha. Call me 
> crazy but I enjoy her reading a lot. I've tried other voice-over voices, 
> but I'm just used to Samantha. Not the enhanced version either. Lol.
> Jen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
>> Braille display.
>>
>> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the 
>> VoiceOver
>> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>>
>> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
>> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
>> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
>> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available. 
>> Yes,
>> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used 
>> my
>> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>>
>> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the 
>> audible
>> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like 
>> the
>> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
>>
>> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
>> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
>> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
>> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>>
>> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
>> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is 
>> definitely
>> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a 
>> few
>> dollars.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I have WayAround and like it very much. So first, the labels are
affixed to buttons or clips or they're stickers. If you were using the
button, you'd attach it at the back of your shirt at the collar most
likely. They have two buttons, one that can be pinned and another than
is better sewn in. The tags are somewhat expensive and went up
recently, but they'll last forever and are rewriteable. You can use
the phone directly if you have a later model phone, I think 8 and up,
but if not, they have a tiny reader that pairs with the phone. My
phone qualifies, but I bought the reader because to use the phone I
had to take it out of its case. So I prefer the little reader. It's
very rast and you can get a lot on a tag. I have found it to be quite
useful as these things go, and although the initial outlay was a bit,
because I bought a variety of the tag types, I've not had to spend
anymore. The buttons that you pin and the stickers which come in those
that work on metal and those that do not have all been the most useful
to me thus far.

On 4/16/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I was more curious about just a bit of real-world experience, for example,
> if somebody has this system, how fast does it recognize stuff, do you hold
> up your iPhone and it’s virtually instantaneous as in it starts reading the
> tag in a second or less etc.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van
> Lant
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: WayAround app and identification/labelling system
>
> I have wanted to try this, but I’m still on an iPhone 6S, so my phone does
> not have whatever the name is for the near field sensor that would allow me
> to just hold the phone up to the tags.  There are a number of podcasts and
> videos on the product and I get the sense that you could contact the Way
> Around people with your questions.  It’s still a small company.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: WayAround app and identification/labelling system
>
> Hi,
>
> I received an email newsletter from AT Guys today and this labelling system
> was mentioned. Has anybody used it? I am curious as to how large the buttons
> are they mention and whether they can be used to replace say a regular shirt
> button.
>
> Braille labels are still the best for some things and after having received
> my expensive little LoganTech 6-Dot labeler I must say that I’m very
> impressed, but for other things a system like WayAround with its
> corresponding app is better since you can record a lot more information. I
> really like the idea of using the iPhone which is almost always with me and
> considering the cost of say the Pen Friend compared to this and the
> versatility of WayAround versus the Pen Friend it is pretty tempting.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Audio Description

[Richard Turner]

I have XFinity in Portland, Oregon and have had no issues with CBS, the Big 
Bang Theory and description.
It also works on the Stream app.
So, it must be the local channel that turned something off.
Have you tried the XFinity Accessibility phone number to see if they could 
assist in educating your local affiliate?
(855) 270-0379‬
Richard
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in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


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any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 16, 2019, at 7:30 PM, 
"blindfait...@gmail.com" 
mailto:blindfait...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Kevin,

Thank you for your message. I also live in GA but I am not in Atlanta but we 
both get our CBS from the same affiliate so I think that I will try and reach 
out to them to see if I can get them to understand that this is not acceptable.

You said that this began happening for you about 2 weeks ago, it sounds as if 
that they definitely did something to cause this. at that time because it is at 
this point that we stopped getting the descriptive track on Dish.

Scott

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio Description

Hello, I am also actually having that same issue. However, I have Comcast. It 
actually started happening two weeks ago, and this is something that has 
happened with my CBS local affiliate in the past, but it has been a long time 
since it has happened. Also, when it has happened before, it did not affect all 
of my cable boxes, and it didn’t affect me watching the show on the Comcast 
Xfinity stream app. However, this time it is affecting everything. I don’t know 
where you live, but I live in Atlanta, Georgia. My local affiliate has no idea 
what I’m talking about when I’ve spoken to them about this issue. So, I try to 
reach out to the accessibility department at CBS. I’ve left a couple of 
messages for them, but so far I haven’t received a return phone call.
Kevin T Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:14 PM, 
mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com>> 
mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I would check with your local CBS affiliate to make sure they are sending the 
secondary audio back to Dish.  I have had issues off and on over the years and 
have had to work directly with the local channels as for network programming 
they are the ones.  My local CBS channel had a ton of static on the secondary 
channel, and eventually had to replace equipment.  I have 2 ABC stations, and 
one is in mono, which happened to be the one that “Primetime” auto recorded on, 
and you couldn’t force it to record on the second channel unless you manually 
scheduled that.  This was all a couple of years ago with Dish.


As for Direct, not sure on the remote boxes.  The last I knew they still didn’t 
have speech.  I finally got rid of my second receiver as it wasn’t worth the 
hassle.  On the main Genie, my opinion the speech is really poor, but at least 
it is there.  I switched to Direct a little over 2 years ago.

Hope that helps.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
blindfait...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio Description

Hello,

I know that this list is for iOS related topics but tonight I am very 
frustrated with a service that I am hoping that some of you on the list might 
be able to assist me with.

My wife and I are huge fans of The Big Bang Theory and up until recently we 
have been able to enjoy the show with audio description on CBS. As this show is 
down to the last 6 episodes we are wanting to be able to watch these final 
shows with the audio description, but for some reason Dish is not giving us the 
description on CBS. I have called them and told about this issue but they do 
not seem to know why this is happening.

My question for the list is: is there anyone else that is having this issue 
with Dish and if so, have you alerted Dish of the issue?

We are really considering switching back to Direct Tv but with Dish we have 
Text To Speech on the living room tv as well as the one in the bedroom. If I 
remember correctly when we were with Direct Tv a couple of years ago 

RE: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I was more curious about just a bit of real-world experience, for example, if 
somebody has this system, how fast does it recognize stuff, do you hold up your 
iPhone and it’s virtually instantaneous as in it starts reading the tag in a 
second or less etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

I have wanted to try this, but I’m still on an iPhone 6S, so my phone does not 
have whatever the name is for the near field sensor that would allow me to just 
hold the phone up to the tags.  There are a number of podcasts and videos on 
the product and I get the sense that you could contact the Way Around people 
with your questions.  It’s still a small company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

Hi,

I received an email newsletter from AT Guys today and this labelling system was 
mentioned. Has anybody used it? I am curious as to how large the buttons are 
they mention and whether they can be used to replace say a regular shirt button.

Braille labels are still the best for some things and after having received my 
expensive little LoganTech 6-Dot labeler I must say that I’m very impressed, 
but for other things a system like WayAround with its corresponding app is 
better since you can record a lot more information. I really like the idea of 
using the iPhone which is almost always with me and considering the cost of say 
the Pen Friend compared to this and the versatility of WayAround versus the Pen 
Friend it is pretty tempting.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

[R Van Lant]

I have wanted to try this, but I’m still on an iPhone 6S, so my phone does not 
have whatever the name is for the near field sensor that would allow me to just 
hold the phone up to the tags.  There are a number of podcasts and videos on 
the product and I get the sense that you could contact the Way Around people 
with your questions.  It’s still a small company.



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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

Hi,

I received an email newsletter from AT Guys today and this labelling system was 
mentioned. Has anybody used it? I am curious as to how large the buttons are 
they mention and whether they can be used to replace say a regular shirt button.

Braille labels are still the best for some things and after having received my 
expensive little LoganTech 6-Dot labeler I must say that I’m very impressed, 
but for other things a system like WayAround with its corresponding app is 
better since you can record a lot more information. I really like the idea of 
using the iPhone which is almost always with me and considering the cost of say 
the Pen Friend compared to this and the versatility of WayAround versus the Pen 
Friend it is pretty tempting.

Best regards,
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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[R Van Lant]

I am often indifferent, , but I do find human narration especially valuable in 
books where the time period or character switches each chapter.  Synthesizers 
just don't pause well enough for me to pick up that there is a shift.  Books 
just as "Girl on the Train" and "All the Light We Cannot See" were the first 
books I bought from Audible specifically because they switched narrators when 
the characters changed and this helped me so much to really follow the story. 

 

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Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

Hi,
This is a very interesting topic indeed. Most of the time I'll default to a 
human voice as my preference. However I have had occasions when either I 
didn't like the narrator for the Audible version of a book so I then went 
with BookShare and one of the many voices available through VoiceDream 
Reader and I was surprised how pleasant the read was. Again it wouldn’t be 
my ultimate preference or default but the times I did use it I was glad to 
have the opportunity to do so to obtain access to a particular title. I 
won't stray off into which voices work best as that is very subjective and 
the topic of great debate. But I will only remark to say that some voices 
like Samantha and a few others included do lend themselves a bit better to 
being sped up without becoming distorted which does help in such situations. 
I'm just glad we now have as many choices as we do to potentially gain 
access to so many titles we could have only dreamed of or hoped for in prior 
decades.  Happy reading one and all no matter which platform or voice you 
choose.
Take good care.
Robin


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From: M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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RE: Connected induction cook stoves

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for the link, but it says in the description “Enjoy the comfort of 
Analog-Knobs combined with the advanced technology of digital touch display”.
I went to a Best Buy in Vancouver last Friday and anything I looked at either 
had only a touch screen/display or a combination of knobs and touch.
Anyways, this Samsung is also a cook top only with no oven. I’d love to have a 
nice cook top like this and a separate wall oven, but we don’t have the space 
for a separate wall oven so it has to be a traditional range (cooktop and oven.)

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Bierman
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Connected induction cook stoves

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-30-induction-cooktop-stainless-steel/5581713.p?skuId=5581713

Appears to have dials,  I've never encountered the unit in person, so I have no 
idea if it's suitable but if you can find one locally, it might be worth 
playing with.


Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:33 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi,

I am curious if anybody has lately been shopping or even purchased an induction 
range. I would like to replace my 22-year old stove and really would like an 
induction  cook top, but it seems to be almost impossible to find something 
with analogue dials and maybe buttons, everything I have seen so far is mostly 
Touchpad controlled and without sight it seems to be useless.
I really like European appliances which in the case of a stove would mean Bosch 
since while I have a Miele washer and dryer, their stoves are completely out of 
my range with starting prices at around $9,000 or $10,000 Canadian.
Miele But I guess in this case I may have to consider Samsung, LG, GE or 
others. If anybody has something which comes with an accessible app or, even 
better, with Alexa or Google Home voice control I’d love to hear about it.

Regards,
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Re: Updated lyft App

[kitty hevener]

Andy, I used lyft today and did not have any access issues.  I have not 
knowingly updated ap, so, not sure if I was using the latest version or an 
older one.  What is the latest version?

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Updated lyft App

I am a frequent lyft rider.  This morning I received an Email from another list 
saying that yesterday's update to the app created an accessibility glitch in 
that the "Request a Ride" button no longer worked with Voiceover turned on.

later today we took a lyft Ride.  There was no issue with that button, but 
after pressing it, the next screen only showed that a driver had been found, 
but the usual identifying info about the driver and car, and the expected 
arrival time was not present.  Then when the driver was one minute away that 
screen popped up.  Has anyone noticed any issues with the newly updated app?  I 
understand that lyft has acknowledged that there are issues, and promises to 
fix them soon.

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Re: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

[kitty hevener]

I have not used it.  But, recall thinking the labeling buttons or tags were 
rather costly.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: WayAround app and identification/labelling system

Hi,

 

I received an email newsletter from AT Guys today and this labelling system was 
mentioned. Has anybody used it? I am curious as to how large the buttons are 
they mention and whether they can be used to replace say a regular shirt button.

 

Braille labels are still the best for some things and after having received my 
expensive little LoganTech 6-Dot labeler I must say that I’m very impressed, 
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better since you can record a lot more information. I really like the idea of 
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the Pen Friend compared to this and the versatility of WayAround versus the Pen 
Friend it is pretty tempting.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Connected induction cook stoves

[Keith Bierman]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-30-induction-cooktop-stainless-steel/5581713.p?skuId=5581713

Appears to have dials,  I've never encountered the unit in person, so I
have no idea if it's suitable but if you can find one locally, it might be
worth playing with.


Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:33 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am curious if anybody has lately been shopping or even purchased an
> induction range. I would like to replace my 22-year old stove and really
> would like an induction  cook top, but it seems to be almost impossible to
> find something with analogue dials and maybe buttons, everything I have
> seen so far is mostly Touchpad controlled and without sight it seems to be
> useless.
>
> I really like European appliances which in the case of a stove would mean
> Bosch since while I have a Miele washer and dryer, their stoves are
> completely out of my range with starting prices at around $9,000 or $10,000
> Canadian.
>
> Miele But I guess in this case I may have to consider Samsung, LG, GE or
> others. If anybody has something which comes with an accessible app or,
> even better, with Alexa or Google Home voice control I’d love to hear about
> it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
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Connected induction cook stoves

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

I am curious if anybody has lately been shopping or even purchased an induction 
range. I would like to replace my 22-year old stove and really would like an 
induction  cook top, but it seems to be almost impossible to find something 
with analogue dials and maybe buttons, everything I have seen so far is mostly 
Touchpad controlled and without sight it seems to be useless.
I really like European appliances which in the case of a stove would mean Bosch 
since while I have a Miele washer and dryer, their stoves are completely out of 
my range with starting prices at around $9,000 or $10,000 Canadian.
Miele But I guess in this case I may have to consider Samsung, LG, GE or 
others. If anybody has something which comes with an accessible app or, even 
better, with Alexa or Google Home voice control I'd love to hear about it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Audio Description

[blindfaith38]

Hi Kevin,

 

Thank you for your message. I also live in GA but I am not in Atlanta but we 
both get our CBS from the same affiliate so I think that I will try and reach 
out to them to see if I can get them to understand that this is not acceptable.

 

You said that this began happening for you about 2 weeks ago, it sounds as if 
that they definitely did something to cause this. at that time because it is at 
this point that we stopped getting the descriptive track on Dish.

 

Scott

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio Description

 

Hello, I am also actually having that same issue. However, I have Comcast. It 
actually started happening two weeks ago, and this is something that has 
happened with my CBS local affiliate in the past, but it has been a long time 
since it has happened. Also, when it has happened before, it did not affect all 
of my cable boxes, and it didn’t affect me watching the show on the Comcast 
Xfinity stream app. However, this time it is affecting everything. I don’t know 
where you live, but I live in Atlanta, Georgia. My local affiliate has no idea 
what I’m talking about when I’ve spoken to them about this issue. So, I try to 
reach out to the accessibility department at CBS. I’ve left a couple of 
messages for them, but so far I haven’t received a return phone call.

Kevin T Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:14 PM, mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com> > mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I would check with your local CBS affiliate to make sure they are sending the 
secondary audio back to Dish.  I have had issues off and on over the years and 
have had to work directly with the local channels as for network programming 
they are the ones.  My local CBS channel had a ton of static on the secondary 
channel, and eventually had to replace equipment.  I have 2 ABC stations, and 
one is in mono, which happened to be the one that “Primetime” auto recorded on, 
and you couldn’t force it to record on the second channel unless you manually 
scheduled that.  This was all a couple of years ago with Dish.

 

 

As for Direct, not sure on the remote boxes.  The last I knew they still didn’t 
have speech.  I finally got rid of my second receiver as it wasn’t worth the 
hassle.  On the main Genie, my opinion the speech is really poor, but at least 
it is there.  I switched to Direct a little over 2 years ago.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
blindfait...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Audio Description

 

Hello,

 

I know that this list is for iOS related topics but tonight I am very 
frustrated with a service that I am hoping that some of you on the list might 
be able to assist me with.

 

My wife and I are huge fans of The Big Bang Theory and up until recently we 
have been able to enjoy the show with audio description on CBS. As this show is 
down to the last 6 episodes we are wanting to be able to watch these final 
shows with the audio description, but for some reason Dish is not giving us the 
description on CBS. I have called them and told about this issue but they do 
not seem to know why this is happening.

 

My question for the list is: is there anyone else that is having this issue 
with Dish and if so, have you alerted Dish of the issue?

 

We are really considering switching back to Direct Tv but with Dish we have 
Text To Speech on the living room tv as well as the one in the bedroom. If I 
remember correctly when we were with Direct Tv a couple of years ago we could 
not get Text To Speech in the bedroom. If there are any Direct Tv users on the 
list can you tell me if this has changed or if we would still not have speech 
in the bedroom if we were to move back to Direct Tv?

 

Scott

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RE: Audio Description

[pdllogan77]

I’m in the Kalamazoo MI area.  My area wasn’t in the initial markets required 
until they expanded that to the top 50 markets and started requiring the TTS on 
the boxes, think that was Dec. of 2016, so maybe I just got lucky that the 
problems I had was when they first were requiring things in my area.  Somehow I 
got connected with the engineering department at my local channel.  I do 
remember I spoke with Dish and if I remember correctly after getting bounced 
around I finally got someone who was able to check with the right group to 
verify that they were getting the feeds from the local affiliate.

 

I wish the networks would all have the secondary audio in there apps, and 
things like Dish and Direct TV would also have it in there apps.

 

 

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Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio Description

 

Hello, I am also actually having that same issue. However, I have Comcast. It 
actually started happening two weeks ago, and this is something that has 
happened with my CBS local affiliate in the past, but it has been a long time 
since it has happened. Also, when it has happened before, it did not affect all 
of my cable boxes, and it didn’t affect me watching the show on the Comcast 
Xfinity stream app. However, this time it is affecting everything. I don’t know 
where you live, but I live in Atlanta, Georgia. My local affiliate has no idea 
what I’m talking about when I’ve spoken to them about this issue. So, I try to 
reach out to the accessibility department at CBS. I’ve left a couple of 
messages for them, but so far I haven’t received a return phone call.

Kevin T Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:14 PM,  mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I would check with your local CBS affiliate to make sure they are sending the 
secondary audio back to Dish.  I have had issues off and on over the years and 
have had to work directly with the local channels as for network programming 
they are the ones.  My local CBS channel had a ton of static on the secondary 
channel, and eventually had to replace equipment.  I have 2 ABC stations, and 
one is in mono, which happened to be the one that “Primetime” auto recorded on, 
and you couldn’t force it to record on the second channel unless you manually 
scheduled that.  This was all a couple of years ago with Dish.

 

 

As for Direct, not sure on the remote boxes.  The last I knew they still didn’t 
have speech.  I finally got rid of my second receiver as it wasn’t worth the 
hassle.  On the main Genie, my opinion the speech is really poor, but at least 
it is there.  I switched to Direct a little over 2 years ago.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
blindfait...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Audio Description

 

Hello,

 

I know that this list is for iOS related topics but tonight I am very 
frustrated with a service that I am hoping that some of you on the list might 
be able to assist me with.

 

My wife and I are huge fans of The Big Bang Theory and up until recently we 
have been able to enjoy the show with audio description on CBS. As this show is 
down to the last 6 episodes we are wanting to be able to watch these final 
shows with the audio description, but for some reason Dish is not giving us the 
description on CBS. I have called them and told about this issue but they do 
not seem to know why this is happening.

 

My question for the list is: is there anyone else that is having this issue 
with Dish and if so, have you alerted Dish of the issue?

 

We are really considering switching back to Direct Tv but with Dish we have 
Text To Speech on the living room tv as well as the one in the bedroom. If I 
remember correctly when we were with Direct Tv a couple of years ago we could 
not get Text To Speech in the bedroom. If there are any Direct Tv users on the 
list can you tell me if this has changed or if we would still not have speech 
in the bedroom if we were to move back to Direct Tv?

 

Scott

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RE: Updated lyft App

[SCOTT VAN GORP]

Hi Sieghard and List:
Actually, this was an accessibility issue in the app with voiceover. I 
restarted my phone and uninstalled and reinstalled, and it didn’t work. Lyft 
has since ddropped an update in the app store and in the description it 
mentions accessibility fix for voiceover. I updated and tested it, and it is 
now working as expected. That was sure a quick turnaround!

Cordially:

Scott Van Gorp


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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated lyft App

Just as a suggestion, did you close all apps and did a restart of your phone 
after updating the app?


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updated lyft App

I am a frequent lyft rider.  This morning I received an Email from another list 
saying that yesterday's update to the app created an accessibility glitch in 
that the "Request a Ride" button no longer worked with Voiceover turned on.

later today we took a lyft Ride.  There was no issue with that button, but 
after pressing it, the next screen only showed that a driver had been found, 
but the usual identifying info about the driver and car, and the expected 
arrival time was not present.  Then when the driver was one minute away that 
screen popped up.  Has anyone noticed any issues with the newly updated app?  I 
understand that lyft has acknowledged that there are issues, and promises to 
fix them soon.

Andy

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WayAround app and identification/labelling system

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

I received an email newsletter from AT Guys today and this labelling system was 
mentioned. Has anybody used it? I am curious as to how large the buttons are 
they mention and whether they can be used to replace say a regular shirt button.

Braille labels are still the best for some things and after having received my 
expensive little LoganTech 6-Dot labeler I must say that I'm very impressed, 
but for other things a system like WayAround with its corresponding app is 
better since you can record a lot more information. I really like the idea of 
using the iPhone which is almost always with me and considering the cost of say 
the Pen Friend compared to this and the versatility of WayAround versus the Pen 
Friend it is pretty tempting.

Best regards,
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Re: Audio Description

[Kevin Thompson]

Hello, I am also actually having that same issue. However, I have Comcast. It 
actually started happening two weeks ago, and this is something that has 
happened with my CBS local affiliate in the past, but it has been a long time 
since it has happened. Also, when it has happened before, it did not affect all 
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Xfinity stream app. However, this time it is affecting everything. I don’t know 
where you live, but I live in Atlanta, Georgia. My local affiliate has no idea 
what I’m talking about when I’ve spoken to them about this issue. So, I try to 
reach out to the accessibility department at CBS. I’ve left a couple of 
messages for them, but so far I haven’t received a return phone call.

Kevin T Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:14 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> I would check with your local CBS affiliate to make sure they are sending the 
> secondary audio back to Dish.  I have had issues off and on over the years 
> and have had to work directly with the local channels as for network 
> programming they are the ones.  My local CBS channel had a ton of static on 
> the secondary channel, and eventually had to replace equipment.  I have 2 ABC 
> stations, and one is in mono, which happened to be the one that “Primetime” 
> auto recorded on, and you couldn’t force it to record on the second channel 
> unless you manually scheduled that.  This was all a couple of years ago with 
> Dish.
>  
>  
> As for Direct, not sure on the remote boxes.  The last I knew they still 
> didn’t have speech.  I finally got rid of my second receiver as it wasn’t 
> worth the hassle.  On the main Genie, my opinion the speech is really poor, 
> but at least it is there.  I switched to Direct a little over 2 years ago.
>  
> Hope that helps.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> blindfait...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Audio Description
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I know that this list is for iOS related topics but tonight I am very 
> frustrated with a service that I am hoping that some of you on the list might 
> be able to assist me with.
>  
> My wife and I are huge fans of The Big Bang Theory and up until recently we 
> have been able to enjoy the show with audio description on CBS. As this show 
> is down to the last 6 episodes we are wanting to be able to watch these final 
> shows with the audio description, but for some reason Dish is not giving us 
> the description on CBS. I have called them and told about this issue but they 
> do not seem to know why this is happening.
>  
> My question for the list is: is there anyone else that is having this issue 
> with Dish and if so, have you alerted Dish of the issue?
>  
> We are really considering switching back to Direct Tv but with Dish we have 
> Text To Speech on the living room tv as well as the one in the bedroom. If I 
> remember correctly when we were with Direct Tv a couple of years ago we could 
> not get Text To Speech in the bedroom. If there are any Direct Tv users on 
> the list can you tell me if this has changed or if we would still not have 
> speech in the bedroom if we were to move back to Direct Tv?
>  
> Scott
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RE: Updated lyft App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just as a suggestion, did you close all apps and did a restart of your phone 
after updating the app?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updated lyft App

I am a frequent lyft rider.  This morning I received an Email from another list 
saying that yesterday's update to the app created an accessibility glitch in 
that the "Request a Ride" button no longer worked with Voiceover turned on.

later today we took a lyft Ride.  There was no issue with that button, but 
after pressing it, the next screen only showed that a driver had been found, 
but the usual identifying info about the driver and car, and the expected 
arrival time was not present.  Then when the driver was one minute away that 
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Updated lyft App

[Andy Baracco]

I am a frequent lyft rider.  This morning I received an Email from another list 
saying that yesterday's update to the app created an accessibility glitch in 
that the "Request a Ride" button no longer worked with Voiceover turned on.

later today we took a lyft Ride.  There was no issue with that button, but 
after pressing it, the next screen only showed that a driver had been found, 
but the usual identifying info about the driver and car, and the expected 
arrival time was not present.  Then when the driver was one minute away that 
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understand that lyft has acknowledged that there are issues, and promises to 
fix them soon.

Andy

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RE: Audio Description

[pdllogan77]

I would check with your local CBS affiliate to make sure they are sending the 
secondary audio back to Dish.  I have had issues off and on over the years and 
have had to work directly with the local channels as for network programming 
they are the ones.  My local CBS channel had a ton of static on the secondary 
channel, and eventually had to replace equipment.  I have 2 ABC stations, and 
one is in mono, which happened to be the one that “Primetime” auto recorded on, 
and you couldn’t force it to record on the second channel unless you manually 
scheduled that.  This was all a couple of years ago with Dish.

 

 

As for Direct, not sure on the remote boxes.  The last I knew they still didn’t 
have speech.  I finally got rid of my second receiver as it wasn’t worth the 
hassle.  On the main Genie, my opinion the speech is really poor, but at least 
it is there.  I switched to Direct a little over 2 years ago.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
blindfait...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio Description

 

Hello,

 

I know that this list is for iOS related topics but tonight I am very 
frustrated with a service that I am hoping that some of you on the list might 
be able to assist me with.

 

My wife and I are huge fans of The Big Bang Theory and up until recently we 
have been able to enjoy the show with audio description on CBS. As this show is 
down to the last 6 episodes we are wanting to be able to watch these final 
shows with the audio description, but for some reason Dish is not giving us the 
description on CBS. I have called them and told about this issue but they do 
not seem to know why this is happening.

 

My question for the list is: is there anyone else that is having this issue 
with Dish and if so, have you alerted Dish of the issue?

 

We are really considering switching back to Direct Tv but with Dish we have 
Text To Speech on the living room tv as well as the one in the bedroom. If I 
remember correctly when we were with Direct Tv a couple of years ago we could 
not get Text To Speech in the bedroom. If there are any Direct Tv users on the 
list can you tell me if this has changed or if we would still not have speech 
in the bedroom if we were to move back to Direct Tv?

 

Scott

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Audio Description

[blindfaith38]

Hello,

 

I know that this list is for iOS related topics but tonight I am very
frustrated with a service that I am hoping that some of you on the list
might be able to assist me with.

 

My wife and I are huge fans of The Big Bang Theory and up until recently we
have been able to enjoy the show with audio description on CBS. As this show
is down to the last 6 episodes we are wanting to be able to watch these
final shows with the audio description, but for some reason Dish is not
giving us the description on CBS. I have called them and told about this
issue but they do not seem to know why this is happening.

 

My question for the list is: is there anyone else that is having this issue
with Dish and if so, have you alerted Dish of the issue?

 

We are really considering switching back to Direct Tv but with Dish we have
Text To Speech on the living room tv as well as the one in the bedroom. If I
remember correctly when we were with Direct Tv a couple of years ago we
could not get Text To Speech in the bedroom. If there are any Direct Tv
users on the list can you tell me if this has changed or if we would still
not have speech in the bedroom if we were to move back to Direct Tv?

 

Scott

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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Alan Lemly]

I still prefer human narration where novels are concerned but if I'm reading a 
nonfiction book where names are critical or a book on computers, computer 
applications, or some form of technology, 
It is hard to beat Bookshare narrated by the TTS voice of my choice in Voice 
Dream Reader.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue 
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver 
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not 
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio book 
was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was just over 
5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes, it was and 
for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my beloved 
Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible 
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the 
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version wit 
the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain that I 
would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not experienced 
the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human narrator 
but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely a viable 
option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few dollars.

Mark


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RE: voicemail question

[Carolyn Arnold]

And when you want to get to the Clear All button, flick to the right, or at 
least that is what has worked for me. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:56 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: voicemail question

Hi Janet,

It only appears if you have deleted voicemail messages and have not cleared 
them from the dEleted Voicemail section.

Best,
Anna




> On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> HI Anna, I have looked in voicemail and I don't see any mention of any 
> deleted messages anywhere is this available on any iPhone?  Janet
> 
> -Original Message- From: Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:04 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: voicemail question
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> 
> Just below the Voicemail heading, you'll find a Deleted Messages button that 
> goes all the way across the screen. Once you double-tap it, you'll be on a 
> screen listing all of your deleted voicemail. You can delete an indivdual 
> message by touching it, flicking up or down to Clear, and double-tapping. Or 
> double-tap the Clear All button in the upper right corner to get rid of all 
> of them. If you use Clear All, you'll be asked if you're sure; flick to Clear 
> All, and double-tap.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi anna where should find that voice mail deleted button. Please?
>> Regards
>> Anthony
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: 15 April 2019 23:07
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: voicemail question
>> 
>> Hi Denise,
>> 
>> When you delete voicemail messages, they go into a holding area called 
>> Deleted Voicemail. You should find a button for it on the voicemail screen. 
>> Maybe you haven't deleted messages from there. If that's the case, open 
>> Deleted Voicemail. It includes a Clear All button you can use to empty 
>> everything out.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Denise colley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a question about voicemail. My phone is giving me the message that 
>>> My voicemail is 80% full or completely full, and people are getting the 
>>> same message when they try to call me. However I only have two messages in 
>>> my voicemail, and neither one of them are any longer than 40 seconds. Any 
>>> suggestions?
>>> 
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RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I guess I asked her for both Privacy and Location, should have just asked for 
one, but finally got it. I will remember that it is pretty far down in 
Settings. All is well, which explains why it was easy to reset the weather 
location, once yall told me about going down to the bottom right of the screen. 
Thanks for all the help. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

It's simply called Privacy and it is in the main Settings right after Battery 
and before iTunes and App Store. It is not in Settings > General and if you say 
"Open Privacy Settings" SIRI will open it. Location Services is the first item 
under Privacy and if you ask SIRI "Open Location Services" it will also open 
them directly.
comes right after Battery in 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

I had tried that, Sieghard, but since you said this, I tried again, even asked 
Siri, launch Privacy and Locations. She said I did not have that app. Now, I 
think that once I did. This is crazy. I thought that if she could open it, as I 
backed out, I'd know where to come to it again. I checked in Settings, even in 
General, just not there. How can that happen? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

As I said, it is Settings > Privacy > Location Services

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Sorry for the inept question, but for the life of me, for some reason tonight, 
I couldn't find where to check about location. Of course, I went to Settings. I 
should know, because I found where to turn off the setting that stopped my 
phone every time I got in the car - phone thought I was driving, little does it 
know. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Do you have location services turned off? You should check in Settings > 
Privacy > Location services whether it is on and whether it is on specifically 
for the Weather app.

If it is on the weather app should report the local weather based on the 
location of your iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

 

When I open Weather, I get New York. What do I do to switch it to Sanford of 
central North Carolina? Thanks. 

 

If you pray, don’t worry; if you worry, don’t pray,

 

Carolyn

 

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RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks, Karen. I had forgotten it was that far down. All is well. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Carolyn,

On my phone, If I go into settings, I find Privacy just below "Battery.  It's 
about 8 items below General

If I go into Privacy, the first item is Location Services, and it tells me that 
it's on

When you are on the New York page in your weather app, what happens if you do a 
3 finger swipe to the right?

I have added several cities to my weather app, but the first page is always 
weather in my current location, no matter where I am.

Karen P

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

I had tried that, Sieghard, but since you said this, I tried again, even asked 
Siri, launch Privacy and Locations. She said I did not have that app. Now, I 
think that once I did. This is crazy. I thought that if she could open it, as I 
backed out, I'd know where to come to it again. I checked in Settings, even in 
General, just not there. How can that happen? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

As I said, it is Settings > Privacy > Location Services

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Sorry for the inept question, but for the life of me, for some reason tonight, 
I couldn't find where to check about location. Of course, I went to Settings. I 
should know, because I found where to turn off the setting that stopped my 
phone every time I got in the car - phone thought I was driving, little does it 
know. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Do you have location services turned off? You should check in Settings > 
Privacy > Location services whether it is on and whether it is on specifically 
for the Weather app.

If it is on the weather app should report the local weather based on the 
location of your iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

 

When I open Weather, I get New York. What do I do to switch it to Sanford of 
central North Carolina? Thanks. 

 

If you pray, don�t worry; if you worry, don�t pray,

 

Carolyn

 

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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I’m more inclined to listen to a nonfiction book with TTTS and fiction stuff 
where there’s a human narrator. Spanish language is really hard to get in 
audiobook format, so there’s not much of a choice there. 

Mainly a VoiceDreamReader user and while I’ve got a few paid tts voices 
downloaded, I more often than not, find myself going back to Samantha. With 
this voice, I can usually max out at 670 WPM or whatever measure they’re using. 
Spanish, it’s either Juan or Rodrigo. 

FYI, If you’ve got K1000 installed on your system, you can create mp3 files 
with the tts reading whatever it is you’ve scanned or selected file on your PC.

Someone else mentioned Balabolka. I’ve never used it, but as they pointed out, 
you can also do the same with it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

 

It depends on the book. There ar definitely times when I prefer a human 
narrator. However, especially when I want to use a book as a reference rather 
than just listn to it for enjoyment, having the Kindle or other ebook format is 
priceless. I have over 1800 Kindle books and even more in epub, pdf and Apple 
Books formats. Voice Dream Reader with the Ivona Brian, James or Sharon voice 
is great. When using VoiceOver, I go with Alex or the female British or 
American Siri voices. Never thought of trying Samantha but I'll make a point of 
doing that now.

 

I really appreciate being able to have a huge library of Kindle books at hand. 
The audio books are prety bulky in comparison particularly where long series 
are involved. I shudder to think how much room the whole Expanse series would 
take up even with Audible's nice data compression. I don't have to worry about 
having a whole series on my iPHONe with ebooks but have often resorted to 
deleting audio books in order to recover space I needed.

 

Every once in a while, I stop and reflect how amazing it is that in less than a 
decade, we've come from not being able to get books in accessible format at any 
price to now when it makes sense to talk about which voice we prefer to read 
damned near anything we want to with. Even more stunning, it's sometimes 
cheeper to buy human narrated books than the same regular ebooks. To top it 
off, we can fit everything including thousands of fully accessible books into a 
pocket.

 

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 1:35 PM Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

As for me, I love the James voice for male-character books, or also it could be 
Paul from Neospeech since it reminds me of the Kurzweil1000 days; for 
female-character books, I like Kate from Neospeech. Be as it is, for me a 
human-narrated book is paradise! But as some of you guys have already 
mentioned, if a book isn’t available on BARD, Audible or scribd, I’d have to do 
with the TTS reading.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 16 abr 2019, a la(s) 8:14 a. m., Russ Kiehne mailto:russ94...@gmail.com> > escribió:

> In my case, I perfer Neospeech Kate using voice dream reader over using 
> Samantha TTS engine to read Kindle books.
> 
> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Michael Feir]

It depends on the book. There ar definitely times when I prefer a human
narrator. However, especially when I want to use a book as a reference
rather than just listn to it for enjoyment, having the Kindle or other
ebook format is priceless. I have over 1800 Kindle books and even more in
epub, pdf and Apple Books formats. Voice Dream Reader with the Ivona Brian,
James or Sharon voice is great. When using VoiceOver, I go with Alex or the
female British or American Siri voices. Never thought of trying Samantha
but I'll make a point of doing that now.

I really appreciate being able to have a huge library of Kindle books at
hand. The audio books are prety bulky in comparison particularly where long
series are involved. I shudder to think how much room the whole Expanse
series would take up even with Audible's nice data compression. I don't
have to worry about having a whole series on my iPHONe with ebooks but have
often resorted to deleting audio books in order to recover space I needed.

Every once in a while, I stop and reflect how amazing it is that in less
than a decade, we've come from not being able to get books in accessible
format at any price to now when it makes sense to talk about which voice we
prefer to read damned near anything we want to with. Even more stunning,
it's sometimes cheeper to buy human narrated books than the same regular
ebooks. To top it off, we can fit everything including thousands of fully
accessible books into a pocket.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 1:35 PM Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

> As for me, I love the James voice for male-character books, or also it
> could be Paul from Neospeech since it reminds me of the Kurzweil1000 days;
> for female-character books, I like Kate from Neospeech. Be as it is, for me
> a human-narrated book is paradise! But as some of you guys have already
> mentioned, if a book isn’t available on BARD, Audible or scribd, I’d have
> to do with the TTS reading.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>
> El 16 abr 2019, a la(s) 8:14 a. m., Russ Kiehne 
> escribió:
>
> > In my case, I perfer Neospeech Kate using voice dream reader over using
> Samantha TTS engine to read Kindle books.
> >
> > -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 9:25 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> > Braille display.
> >
> > However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the
> VoiceOver
> > Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> >
> > Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> > available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> > book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> > just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.
> Yes,
> > it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and
> used my
> > beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> >
> > After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the
> audible
> > version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like
> the
> > book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
> >
> > You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> > wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> > that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> > experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> >
> > Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> > narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is
> definitely
> > a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a
> few
> > dollars.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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Re: voicemail question

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Janet,

It only appears if you have deleted voicemail messages and have not cleared 
them from the dEleted Voicemail section.

Best,
Anna




> On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> HI Anna, I have looked in voicemail and I don't see any mention of any 
> deleted messages anywhere is this available on any iPhone?  Janet
> 
> -Original Message- From: Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:04 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: voicemail question
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> 
> Just below the Voicemail heading, you'll find a Deleted Messages button that 
> goes all the way across the screen. Once you double-tap it, you'll be on a 
> screen listing all of your deleted voicemail. You can delete an indivdual 
> message by touching it, flicking up or down to Clear, and double-tapping. Or 
> double-tap the Clear All button in the upper right corner to get rid of all 
> of them. If you use Clear All, you'll be asked if you're sure; flick to Clear 
> All, and double-tap.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi anna where should find that voice mail deleted button. Please?
>> Regards
>> Anthony
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: 15 April 2019 23:07
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: voicemail question
>> 
>> Hi Denise,
>> 
>> When you delete voicemail messages, they go into a holding area called 
>> Deleted Voicemail. You should find a button for it on the voicemail screen. 
>> Maybe you haven't deleted messages from there. If that's the case, open 
>> Deleted Voicemail. It includes a Clear All button you can use to empty 
>> everything out.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Denise colley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a question about voicemail. My phone is giving me the message that 
>>> My voicemail is 80% full or completely full, and people are getting the 
>>> same message when they try to call me. However I only have two messages in 
>>> my voicemail, and neither one of them are any longer than 40 seconds. Any 
>>> suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: voicemail question

[Janet Bell]

HI Anna, I have looked in voicemail and I don't see any mention of any 
deleted messages anywhere is this available on any iPhone?  Janet


-Original Message- 
From: Anna Dresner

Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:04 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: voicemail question

Hi Anthony,

Just below the Voicemail heading, you'll find a Deleted Messages button that 
goes all the way across the screen. Once you double-tap it, you'll be on a 
screen listing all of your deleted voicemail. You can delete an indivdual 
message by touching it, flicking up or down to Clear, and double-tapping. Or 
double-tap the Clear All button in the upper right corner to get rid of all 
of them. If you use Clear All, you'll be asked if you're sure; flick to 
Clear All, and double-tap.


Best,
Anna



On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Anthony Borg  
wrote:


Hi anna where should find that voice mail deleted button. Please?
Regards
Anthony

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner

Sent: 15 April 2019 23:07
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: voicemail question

Hi Denise,

When you delete voicemail messages, they go into a holding area called 
Deleted Voicemail. You should find a button for it on the voicemail 
screen. Maybe you haven't deleted messages from there. If that's the case, 
open Deleted Voicemail. It includes a Clear All button you can use to 
empty everything out.


Best,
Anna





On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Denise colley  wrote:

I have a question about voicemail. My phone is giving me the message that 
My voicemail is 80% full or completely full, and people are getting the 
same message when they try to call me. However I only have two messages 
in my voicemail, and neither one of them are any longer than 40 seconds. 
Any suggestions?


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RE: voicemail question

[Anthony Borg]

Thanks for the info anna. 
Regards 
Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: 16 April 2019 19:05
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: voicemail question

Hi Anthony,

Just below the Voicemail heading, you'll find a Deleted Messages button that 
goes all the way across the screen. Once you double-tap it, you'll be on a 
screen listing all of your deleted voicemail. You can delete an indivdual 
message by touching it, flicking up or down to Clear, and double-tapping. Or 
double-tap the Clear All button in the upper right corner to get rid of all of 
them. If you use Clear All, you'll be asked if you're sure; flick to Clear All, 
and double-tap.

Best,
Anna



> On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> Hi anna where should find that voice mail deleted button. Please? 
> Regards 
> Anthony 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: 15 April 2019 23:07
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: voicemail question
> 
> Hi Denise,
> 
> When you delete voicemail messages, they go into a holding area called 
> Deleted Voicemail. You should find a button for it on the voicemail screen. 
> Maybe you haven't deleted messages from there. If that's the case, open 
> Deleted Voicemail. It includes a Clear All button you can use to empty 
> everything out.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Denise colley  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a question about voicemail. My phone is giving me the message that My 
>> voicemail is 80% full or completely full, and people are getting the same 
>> message when they try to call me. However I only have two messages in my 
>> voicemail, and neither one of them are any longer than 40 seconds. Any 
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Gerardo Corripio]

As for me, I love the James voice for male-character books, or also it could be 
Paul from Neospeech since it reminds me of the Kurzweil1000 days; for 
female-character books, I like Kate from Neospeech. Be as it is, for me a 
human-narrated book is paradise! But as some of you guys have already 
mentioned, if a book isn’t available on BARD, Audible or scribd, I’d have to do 
with the TTS reading.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 16 abr 2019, a la(s) 8:14 a. m., Russ Kiehne  escribió:

> In my case, I perfer Neospeech Kate using voice dream reader over using 
> Samantha TTS engine to read Kindle books.
> 
> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's simply called Privacy and it is in the main Settings right after Battery 
and before iTunes and App Store. It is not in Settings > General and if you say 
"Open Privacy Settings" SIRI will open it. Location Services is the first item 
under Privacy and if you ask SIRI "Open Location Services" it will also open 
them directly.
comes right after Battery in 

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Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

I had tried that, Sieghard, but since you said this, I tried again, even asked 
Siri, launch Privacy and Locations. She said I did not have that app. Now, I 
think that once I did. This is crazy. I thought that if she could open it, as I 
backed out, I'd know where to come to it again. I checked in Settings, even in 
General, just not there. How can that happen? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:18 AM
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Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

As I said, it is Settings > Privacy > Location Services

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Sorry for the inept question, but for the life of me, for some reason tonight, 
I couldn't find where to check about location. Of course, I went to Settings. I 
should know, because I found where to turn off the setting that stopped my 
phone every time I got in the car - phone thought I was driving, little does it 
know. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Do you have location services turned off? You should check in Settings > 
Privacy > Location services whether it is on and whether it is on specifically 
for the Weather app.

If it is on the weather app should report the local weather based on the 
location of your iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

 

When I open Weather, I get New York. What do I do to switch it to Sanford of 
central North Carolina? Thanks. 

 

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Carolyn

 

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Re: voicemail question

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Anthony,

Just below the Voicemail heading, you'll find a Deleted Messages button that 
goes all the way across the screen. Once you double-tap it, you'll be on a 
screen listing all of your deleted voicemail. You can delete an indivdual 
message by touching it, flicking up or down to Clear, and double-tapping. Or 
double-tap the Clear All button in the upper right corner to get rid of all of 
them. If you use Clear All, you'll be asked if you're sure; flick to Clear All, 
and double-tap.

Best,
Anna



> On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> Hi anna where should find that voice mail deleted button. Please? 
> Regards 
> Anthony 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: 15 April 2019 23:07
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: voicemail question
> 
> Hi Denise,
> 
> When you delete voicemail messages, they go into a holding area called 
> Deleted Voicemail. You should find a button for it on the voicemail screen. 
> Maybe you haven't deleted messages from there. If that's the case, open 
> Deleted Voicemail. It includes a Clear All button you can use to empty 
> everything out.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Denise colley  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a question about voicemail. My phone is giving me the message that My 
>> voicemail is 80% full or completely full, and people are getting the same 
>> message when they try to call me. However I only have two messages in my 
>> voicemail, and neither one of them are any longer than 40 seconds. Any 
>> suggestions?
>> 
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RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

[Karen Poulakos]

Carolyn,

On my phone, If I go into settings, I find Privacy just below "Battery.  It's 
about 8 items below General

If I go into Privacy, the first item is Location Services, and it tells me that 
it's on

When you are on the New York page in your weather app, what happens if you do a 
3 finger swipe to the right?

I have added several cities to my weather app, but the first page is always 
weather in my current location, no matter where I am.

Karen P

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

I had tried that, Sieghard, but since you said this, I tried again, even asked 
Siri, launch Privacy and Locations. She said I did not have that app. Now, I 
think that once I did. This is crazy. I thought that if she could open it, as I 
backed out, I'd know where to come to it again. I checked in Settings, even in 
General, just not there. How can that happen? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

As I said, it is Settings > Privacy > Location Services

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Sorry for the inept question, but for the life of me, for some reason tonight, 
I couldn't find where to check about location. Of course, I went to Settings. I 
should know, because I found where to turn off the setting that stopped my 
phone every time I got in the car - phone thought I was driving, little does it 
know. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Do you have location services turned off? You should check in Settings > 
Privacy > Location services whether it is on and whether it is on specifically 
for the Weather app.

If it is on the weather app should report the local weather based on the 
location of your iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

 

When I open Weather, I get New York. What do I do to switch it to Sanford of 
central North Carolina? Thanks. 

 

If you pray, don�t worry; if you worry, don�t pray,

 

Carolyn

 

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Re: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

[Kelly Pierce]

The first cell phone I ever b bought was an iPhone 5 on December 21,
2012 at the Apple store on North Michigan Avenue in Chicago. This was
when Apple was becoming a cultural phenomenon and the stores were
tourist destinations. Hundreds of tourists were packed into this
storefront to watch Apple lovers so I had a little trouble getting
noticed at first.  The woman who helped me was also extremely helpful
and enthusiastic.  After I told her this was my first cell phone ever,
she found An Apple Trainer who spent an hour showing me how to use
VoiceOver gestures with my iPhone 5.  It was the most unbelievable and
empowering unboxing I have ever had in my life.

Kelly



On 4/14/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I just returned from a short vacation to Hawaii.
>
> While there, I discovered that there is an Apple Store located in the
> beautiful Royal Hawaiian Hotel and Resort down at Waikiki Beach.
>
> Wow!  To say that the customer service was world class would be the
> understatement of the highest degree.
>
> Now I've never been to any of Apple's flagship stores, here on the
> mainland,
> but I'll bet, beans to bacon, that the Royal Hawaiian location mirrors
> them,
> precisely, in terms of enthusiasm, class, and that ineffable quality that
> sets Apple apart from other tech companies.
>
> As for the Apple representatives?  Well, they were the most attentive and
> gracious employees I've yet to encounter at any Apple Store.  In fact, I
> was
> so impressed that I actually visited the store twice, just to see if my
> initial impression was accurate; and yes, it was, indeed.
>
> Now when I travel, I like to purchase products from significant store
> locations.  For example, I have purchased items from the first Starbucks
> store, the first Nordstrom store, Amazon Go, etc.
>
> So of course I had to buy something from the Royal Hawaiian  Apple Store
> because I may never get that way, again.  The problem is that I couldn't
> think of anything I needed, (smile).
>
> In the end, I decided to buy a secondary iPad charger for my new iPad Pro.
> I am using it to more rapidly charge my beloved iPHone 8 Plus.
>
> While all of my local Apple stores are great places to explore the world of
> Apple, I can definitely say that the Royal Hawaiian location is a cut above
> and has forever changed my idea of what world class customer service looks
> and feels like.
>
> I loved Hawaii but, as the saying goes, there's no place like home.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Mark
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Devin Prater]

Rob, look into Balabolka , a free 
program that can do this for not only one file, but a batch of them if you need 
that. It’s one of the most feature complete TTS app for Windows.

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Rob,
> Text Aloud might be a possibility for you:
> https://nextup.com/
> 
> Richard
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Experience from a long time audio reader, is the familiarity you get with 
> TTS, until you're imune to its peculiarities.   Like our 
> screen readers.  i'm trying to track down an old  utility for Windows that 
> directly converts .txt to .mp3/wav via any TTS voice you have installed.
> 
> I wouldn't want to lose all my favourite books read by very good readers,  
> but TTS is a great leveller.
> 
> RobH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:25 AM
> Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I had tried that, Sieghard, but since you said this, I tried again, even asked 
Siri, launch Privacy and Locations. She said I did not have that app. Now, I 
think that once I did. This is crazy. I thought that if she could open it, as I 
backed out, I'd know where to come to it again. I checked in Settings, even in 
General, just not there. How can that happen? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

As I said, it is Settings > Privacy > Location Services

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Sorry for the inept question, but for the life of me, for some reason tonight, 
I couldn't find where to check about location. Of course, I went to Settings. I 
should know, because I found where to turn off the setting that stopped my 
phone every time I got in the car - phone thought I was driving, little does it 
know. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

Do you have location services turned off? You should check in Settings > 
Privacy > Location services whether it is on and whether it is on specifically 
for the Weather app.

If it is on the weather app should report the local weather based on the 
location of your iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do I do to get my weather local instead of New York?

 

When I open Weather, I get New York. What do I do to switch it to Sanford of 
central North Carolina? Thanks. 

 

If you pray, don’t worry; if you worry, don’t pray,

 

Carolyn

 

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Re: How to send a contact's info from iPhone

[John Harden]

The person’s phone number is what you should type in to the to field. Don’t use 
hyphens or anything in the number just the 10 digit number. If that person is 
in your contacts you can select it that way.

John
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jenn
> I tried to share with the message option but I am not sure what to type in 
> the to field because when I type the person's cell number and then activate 
> the send button I get an error.
> Regards
> Fanus
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:42
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to send a contact's info from iPhone
> 
> i there,
> 
> Go into your contact that you want to share. There is a share contact button 
> in there. Double tap that and then you can use message or mail or air drop 
> however you want to share it.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
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>> Hello list
>> I want to send the info from one of my contacts to someone but I can not
>> remember how to do it from the iPhone.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
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RE: How to send a contact's info from iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Jenn
I tried to share with the message option but I am not sure what to type in the 
to field because when I type the person's cell number and then activate the 
send button I get an error.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to send a contact's info from iPhone

i there,

Go into your contact that you want to share. There is a share contact button in 
there. Double tap that and then you can use message or mail or air drop however 
you want to share it.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
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> remember how to do it from the iPhone.
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: Using assistive touch to clear active ram in iPhone 10R

[BB]

When you go into the assistive touch settings:
do not turn the feature on until you have selected the functions for each 
gesture.

Go down to the area where you can customize the menu.
Remember that a single tap is actually the double tap for users of voiceover 
and the double tap is a triple tap. You can assign three different gestures 
and the one to do what you are looking for is the "restart" function, so you 
can assign it to whichever gesture you select.
You should go down the list and decide if you wish to change any of the 
selections to suit your needs. Since the XR has no home button, you can 
assign a gesture to perform the function of pressing the home key.

After you have chosen your selections, turn the Assistive touch menu to on.
Usually the menu will appear on the right side of the screen about 1/3 of 
the way from the bottom and it is on most screens. first put focus on the 
menu then perform the number of taps you assigned to the function you wish 
to perform.



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From: Gordon

Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using assistive touch to clear active ram in iPhone 10R

So on the phones with home buttons you would hold down the power button
until the power off came up. Then you would release and hold down the
home button until voiceover would speak again. At that point you had
cleared your active ram and dumped temporary app cache. There is a way
to do this on the newer devices lacking a physical home button using
assistive touch. Does anyone understand how to do this? I've read
several articles about it but can't figure it out. You're supposed to
head over to accesibility and enable assistive touch. Then you go back
to general settings and use the shutdown button to power the device
down. But I can't figure anything else out after that.

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Re: How to send a contact's info from iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

i there,

Go into your contact that you want to share. There is a share contact button in 
there. Double tap that and then you can use message or mail or air drop however 
you want to share it.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
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> Hello list
> I want to send the info from one of my contacts to someone but I can not
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> Regards
> Fanus
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RE: voicemail question

[Anthony Borg]

Hi anna where should find that voice mail deleted button. Please? 
Regards 
Anthony 

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Dresner
Sent: 15 April 2019 23:07
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Subject: Re: voicemail question

Hi Denise,

When you delete voicemail messages, they go into a holding area called Deleted 
Voicemail. You should find a button for it on the voicemail screen. Maybe you 
haven't deleted messages from there. If that's the case, open Deleted 
Voicemail. It includes a Clear All button you can use to empty everything out.

Best,
Anna




> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Denise colley  wrote:
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> I have a question about voicemail. My phone is giving me the message that My 
> voicemail is 80% full or completely full, and people are getting the same 
> message when they try to call me. However I only have two messages in my 
> voicemail, and neither one of them are any longer than 40 seconds. Any 
> suggestions?
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How to send a contact's info from iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I want to send the info from one of my contacts to someone but I can not
remember how to do it from the iPhone.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Penny Reeder]

I alternate between reading books — frequently novels — from BookShare and NLS. 
It turns out that i like TTS on my Stream and NLS narrators equally well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 1:42 AM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> definitely not for me!
> I would rather buy audiobooks that I actually want to listen to, with good 
> readers, who bring the characters to life.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:25 AM
> Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Russ Kiehne]

In my case, I perfer Neospeech Kate using voice dream reader over using 
Samantha TTS engine to read Kindle books.


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
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experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
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a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Larry Lumpkin]

As I think someone said, reading voice is purely a mater of taste. I like bard 
books sometimes and sometimes I prefer text to speech.


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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Rob,
Text Aloud might be a possibility for you:
https://nextup.com/

Richard

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Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

Experience from a long time audio reader, is the familiarity you get with TTS, 
until you're imune to its peculiarities.   Like our 
screen readers.  i'm trying to track down an old  utility for Windows that 
directly converts .txt to .mp3/wav via any TTS voice you have installed.

I wouldn't want to lose all my favourite books read by very good readers,  but 
TTS is a great leveller.

RobH.
- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:25 AM
Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe


Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue 
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver 
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not 
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio book 
was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was just over 
5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes, it was and 
for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my beloved 
Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible 
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the 
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version wit 
the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain that I 
would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not experienced 
the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human narrator 
but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely a viable 
option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few dollars.

Mark


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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Richard Turner]

Rob,
Text Aloud might be a possibility for you:
https://nextup.com/

Richard

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Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

Experience from a long time audio reader, is the familiarity you get with TTS, 
until you're imune to its peculiarities.   Like our 
screen readers.  i'm trying to track down an old  utility for Windows that 
directly converts .txt to .mp3/wav via any TTS voice you have installed.

I wouldn't want to lose all my favourite books read by very good readers,  but 
TTS is a great leveller.

RobH.
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To: 
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Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe


Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Richard Turner]

I've read a ton of novels with Voice Dream Reader using Amy from Ivona.
I especially prefer Voice Dream Reader over Kindle because you can adjust the 
pauses between sentences so it has an even more human-like inflection.
Plus, I can read faster with a TTS engine.

Richard
 

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Hi Mark and all.
I have read several books in iBooks and Kindel with Samantha. Call me crazy but 
I enjoy her reading a lot. I've tried other voice-over voices, but I'm just 
used to Samantha. Not the enhanced version either. Lol.
Jen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 
> Blue Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the 
> VoiceOver Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not 
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the 
> audio book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the 
> book was just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was 
> available.  Yes, it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the 
> Kindle version and used my beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the 
> audible version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I 
> would like the book any better or less with a human narrator at the 
> proverbial helm.
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle 
> version wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am 
> absolutely certain that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human 
> narrator edition had I not experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human 
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is 
> definitely a viable option for reading novels, especially when it 
> comes to saving a few dollars.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Using assistive touch to clear active ram in iPhone 10R

[Gordon]

So on the phones with home buttons you would hold down the power button 
until the power off came up. Then you would release and hold down the 
home button until voiceover would speak again. At that point you had 
cleared your active ram and dumped temporary app cache. There is a way 
to do this on the newer devices lacking a physical home button using 
assistive touch. Does anyone understand how to do this? I've read 
several articles about it but can't figure it out. You're supposed to 
head over to accesibility and enable assistive touch. Then you go back 
to general settings and use the shutdown button to power the device 
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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Mich Verrier]

I agree. I would mutch rather lissen to a humin narader of a audio book then a 
text to speech engon or voice any time hands down. The way I see it is that as 
blind people we have to lissen to enough text to speech stuff with jaws wile 
checking the e mail or serfing the web or voice over on our phones and or mac's 
why would we choose or want to lissen to another form of text to speech when we 
want to read? Give me humin naraters every time hands down. From Mich.

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exactly!

Simon


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Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


Like Lauralli King?
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


definitely not for me!
I would rather buy audiobooks that I actually want to listen to, with good
readers, who bring the characters to life.

Simon


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:25 AM
Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe


Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Devin Prater]

If the narrator is great, then I love a good audio book. But if they vary their 
speaking volume too much, like actually whispering, then that's when I want 
good ol' Alex to read it. Really though, a braille display is how I absorb 
information the best, for me at least.

Get Outlook for iOS


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I hate audio books, hate them. it’s why I wanted a braille display so badly. if 
I have to read text with sound, then I want it to sound as automated as 
possible. the overly dramatic people reading is so distracting. I can’t stand 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[alia robinson]

I hate audio books, hate them. it’s why I wanted a braille display so badly. if 
I have to read text with sound, then I want it to sound as automated as 
possible. the overly dramatic people reading is so distracting. I can’t stand 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Kay Malmquist]

The voice thing is so subjective.  Everyone is different.  The regular 
Samantha voice sounds to me like she is gripping a cigarette between her 
teeth and is having a bad hair day.  Just my opinion though.  It used to be 
much worse with the old Garmin GPS.
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


Yes I think Samantha is a particularly good voice, very clear and somehow 
gives me a sense of wellbeing. I also don't use the enhanced version. I find 
I'm not so keen on the enhanced voices I've heard samples of.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 07:20, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>
> Hi Mark and all.
> I have read several books in iBooks and Kindel with Samantha. Call me 
> crazy but I enjoy her reading a lot. I've tried other voice-over voices, 
> but I'm just used to Samantha. Not the enhanced version either. Lol.
> Jen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
>> Braille display.
>>
>> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the 
>> VoiceOver
>> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>>
>> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
>> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
>> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
>> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available. 
>> Yes,
>> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used 
>> my
>> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>>
>> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the 
>> audible
>> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like 
>> the
>> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
>>
>> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
>> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
>> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
>> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>>
>> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
>> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is 
>> definitely
>> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a 
>> few
>> dollars.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Kay Malmquist]

See, I like the enhanced version and can't tell you why.  I can read manuals 
and so many things with her and that really surprises me.  She is an easy 
listen and I enjoy her reading.

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


Hi Mark and all.
I have read several books in iBooks and Kindel with Samantha. Call me crazy 
but I enjoy her reading a lot. I've tried other voice-over voices, but I'm 
just used to Samantha. Not the enhanced version either. Lol.
Jen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
>
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the 
> VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available. 
> Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used 
> my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the 
> audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like 
> the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
>
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is 
> definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a 
> few
> dollars.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
This is a very interesting topic indeed. Most of the time I'll default to a 
human voice as my preference. However I have had occasions when either I 
didn't like the narrator for the Audible version of a book so I then went 
with BookShare and one of the many voices available through VoiceDream 
Reader and I was surprised how pleasant the read was. Again it wouldn’t be 
my ultimate preference or default but the times I did use it I was glad to 
have the opportunity to do so to obtain access to a particular title. I 
won't stray off into which voices work best as that is very subjective and 
the topic of great debate. But I will only remark to say that some voices 
like Samantha and a few others included do lend themselves a bit better to 
being sped up without becoming distorted which does help in such situations. 
I'm just glad we now have as many choices as we do to potentially gain 
access to so many titles we could have only dreamed of or hoped for in prior 
decades.  Happy reading one and all no matter which platform or voice you 
choose.

Take good care.
Robin


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Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[goshawk on horseback]

exactly!

Simon


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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


Like Lauralli King?
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? 
Maybe


definitely not for me!
I would rather buy audiobooks that I actually want to listen to, with good
readers, who bring the characters to life.

Simon


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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:25 AM
Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe


Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Like Lauralli King?
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From: "goshawk on horseback" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe


definitely not for me!
I would rather buy audiobooks that I actually want to listen to, with good
readers, who bring the characters to life.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:25 AM
Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe


Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Experience from a long time audio reader, is the familiarity you get with TTS, 
until you're imune to its peculiarities.   Like our 
screen readers.  i'm trying to track down an old  utility for Windows that 
directly converts .txt to .mp3/wav via any TTS voice you 
have installed.

I wouldn't want to lose all my favourite books read by very good readers,  but 
TTS is a great leveller.

RobH.
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Subject: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe


Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Angie Nutt]

Yes I think Samantha is a particularly good voice, very clear and somehow gives 
me a sense of wellbeing. I also don’t use the enhanced version. I find I’m not 
so keen on the enhanced voices I’ve heard samples of.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 07:20, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark and all.
> I have read several books in iBooks and Kindel with Samantha. Call me crazy 
> but I enjoy her reading a lot. I've tried other voice-over voices, but I'm 
> just used to Samantha. Not the enhanced version either. Lol.
> Jen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
>> Braille display.
>> 
>> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
>> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>> 
>> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
>> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
>> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
>> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
>> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
>> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>> 
>> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
>> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
>> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
>> 
>> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
>> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
>> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
>> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>> 
>> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
>> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
>> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
>> dollars.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Mark and all.
I have read several books in iBooks and Kindel with Samantha. Call me crazy but 
I enjoy her reading a lot. I've tried other voice-over voices, but I'm just 
used to Samantha. Not the enhanced version either. Lol.
Jen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark
> 
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