RE: another quirk after updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

SIRI learns a bit over time so if you have two or three contacts with the name 
John and you almost always call just one of them SIRI may just call if you say 
call John. But for me SIRI has always asked which John, to use that example, I 
wanted to call if it was somebody I called less frequently and if I had several 
entries with that first name in my contacts. This of course only makes sense 
because how would you otherwise be able to call a different John if SIRI ever 
only called one of them and often SIRI doesn’t know simply things one would 
expect it to know so I don’t think reading one’s mind is going to be on the 
menu soon.
My guess is that after the update SIRI maybe reset or lost some of what it 
learned over time and is starting to built this up again from scratch.

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another quirk after updating

Anna
Why the need for the extra step to get Seeri to recognize someone in my contact 
folder? I always used to simply say text and the name of the person, and almost 
always only used a first name. That worked. Using Seeri to make calls has been 
far less reliable. I guess I'll have to do the shortcut thing, but really... 
It's like Richard saying that the Company field doesn't work. Why put it there 
then?

  All is pretty much worked out by now, except for the different voices. I 
definitely have things like the reminders in the old voice but, Seeri has a new 
chosen voice since updating. I scanned through some settings after the updates 
to see what might have been switched on, but didn't look at

seeri at all. I'll do that now.

  Yes, I deleted the Tune In App and installed it again. Since I had no 
sign in, I had to put my local stations and shows in again. At first even 
though I hit on the favorite button, to select a local radio station, voice 
over did not say selected. When I put a show in and in that case it indicated 
that it had been selected. Oh well. So much for consistency. It's not a deal 
breaker.



  Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:16 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: another quirk after updating

Hello Deidre,

Once you contact Miles, if you go to Siri settings and go to the shortcuts 
section, you should see a shortcut to contact him. You can assign a phrase to 
that shortcut like, "Call Miles," and use it to contact him in the future.

Have you deleted and reinstalled TuneIn yet? sounds like that should fix it.

VoiceOver only uses one voice throughout the phone. There are more options for 
voices in iOS 12 than 10, though, I think.

Best,
Anna
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RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I couldn't have said it better, Alan, and also no issues here on my iPhone 8 
although I am on the iOS 13 Beta now for a short time. I had no issues with 
wired Earpods, again, I am like you and use them most of the time and I went 
through the entire public beta cycle of iOS 12.4 with no problems.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 9:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the 
Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS 
Version

Mark,

I use wired Apple Earpods almost exclusively with my iPhone 8 running iOS 12.4 
and have no problems with them. You don't really describe the nature of your 
problem and I would think that would be helpful in trying to ferret out the 
issue.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:30 PM
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Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Alan Lemly]

Mark,

I use wired Apple Earpods almost exclusively with my iPhone 8 running iOS 12.4 
and have no problems with them. You don't really describe the nature of your 
problem and I would think that would be helpful in trying to ferret out the 
issue.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for 
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[M. Taylor]

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the
latest version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming
audio/ or, some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple
Earpods on my 8 Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my
inability to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And,
"yes," I have thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several
different sets of EarPods on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods
have this problem on any of my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8
series was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately
identified and reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up
glitch until about 1 year later when they finally fixed the problem with a
later version of iOS.  They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after
hundreds and hundreds of reports came in from all across the world.  Now the
glitch was not devastating and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the
phone to the extent that one would return it to the store but the glitch
existed and Apple denied its existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to
the issue about 9 months in but only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class
device in the Apple orchard.

My point, just because Apple denies knowledge of something, means nothing.  

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, (big smile), that's about all for
now.  

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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My iPhone and streaming to my Fire TV

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I am needing some help. I have a question I hope someone might have an 
answer to.


I just recently got a Fire TV. I love it!


Anyway, I want to be able to stream audio from my phone, to the Fire TV. 
I usually put audio described files in to Dropbox, and stream them using 
my bluetooth speaker.


So is what I would like to do, even possible?

Can I somehow use the bluetooth from my phone, to connect to the Fire TV?

Or could I possibly use the Fire TV to connect to my iPhone?

Or would I have to do this some different way entirely?


Any thoughts or suggestions are very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: LookTel Apps on the App Store

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Richard,

All I can say right now is that Money Reader and VO Tutorial are supposed to be 
back on the App Store hopefully in a few days.

Money Reader will still be called NantMobile Money Reader, but VO Tutorial 
should not change.

if anything changes, I will surely post to keep y’all informed as best I can.

Thanks again and talk with you soon.

Cheers!

Cara



> On Aug 8, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>> Cara, It is good to hear that. But, could you list the apps? I know many 
>> people, including myself, was sad to see Money Reader vanish, but its name 
>> had been changed to NantMobile Money Reader, so if you can, could you say a 
>> little more?  
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>> indistinguishable from magic." 
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Firstly, apologies for the cross post.
>> 
>> As some of you may know, the “LookTel” apps have not been available on the 
>> App Store for a few weeks now.
>> 
>> My sincerest apologies for the silence on this. I have not had any info I 
>> could share.
>> 
>> As of now, the apps that were there will be back. I would give this at least 
>> a few days; probably more likely closer to a week or so before we see them. 
>> -But they will be back.
>> 
>> Thanks so much to all of you for your continued interest and support. It 
>> truly means a lot!
>> 
>> Please have a terrific day / evening and talk with you all soon.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Cara
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Re: LookTel Apps on the App Store

[Richard Turner]

> Cara, It is good to hear that. But, could you list the apps? I know many 
> people, including myself, was sad to see Money Reader vanish, but its name 
> had been changed to NantMobile Money Reader, so if you can, could you say a 
> little more?  
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic." 
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> On Aug 8, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Firstly, apologies for the cross post.
> 
> As some of you may know, the “LookTel” apps have not been available on the 
> App Store for a few weeks now.
> 
> My sincerest apologies for the silence on this. I have not had any info I 
> could share.
> 
> As of now, the apps that were there will be back. I would give this at least 
> a few days; probably more likely closer to a week or so before we see them. 
> -But they will be back.
> 
> Thanks so much to all of you for your continued interest and support. It 
> truly means a lot!
> 
> Please have a terrific day / evening and talk with you all soon.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
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LookTel Apps on the App Store

[Cara Quinn]

Hi All,

Firstly, apologies for the cross post.

As some of you may know, the “LookTel” apps have not been available on the App 
Store for a few weeks now.

My sincerest apologies for the silence on this. I have not had any info I could 
share.

As of now, the apps that were there will be back. I would give this at least a 
few days; probably more likely closer to a week or so before we see them. -But 
they will be back.

Thanks so much to all of you for your continued interest and support. It truly 
means a lot!

Please have a terrific day / evening and talk with you all soon.

Cheers!

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Re: Understanding Volume Controls

[Devin Prater]

You can do that by changing VoiceOver’s sounds. Go to Settings, General, 
Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor. In there, find “volume” and double tap on it 
to select it. Go back to the Home screen, and use the VoiceOver rotor and turn 
to “volume," and flick up with one finger to raise the volume, and down with 
one finger to lower it.

> On Aug 8, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> OK, so here's the problem. I used to be the nerdy type of person who
> would read user manuals front to back in order to learn every possible
> in and out of a device. Then I got older, accumulated
> responsibilities, life got in the way, and dang it if I can't seem to
> figure out what is likely a very simple solution in my iPhone.
> 
> Can someone please explain to me, in dumb people language, how to make
> sense of the volume controls in my iPhone? I want the alerts
> themselves to be reasonably loud, but I want Voiceover itself to be
> lower in volume. I can't seem to achieve this without dropping or
> raising the volume across the board, and I don't get that setting
> under Sounds that says the buttons can be locked. I want to be able to
> use my buttons to drop or raise sound volume, but I still want to be
> able to tell the phone to keep system sounds a little louder to grab
> my attention but Voiceover softer to maintain some sort of privacy.
> 
> If that makes any kind of sense, I'd really appreciate your help.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Joe
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Re: Understanding Volume Controls

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Joe,

You should have the setting to control sound volume with buttons. It's a little 
above the one for picking your ring tone.

You can try a couple of things for adjusting VoiceOver. Adjust it while 
VoiceOver is speaking, but no other sound is playing. The other thing to try is 
putting Volume on the rotor and adjusting VoiceOver with that. Go to VoiceOver 
Settings and choose Rotor to find this option.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna




> On Aug 8, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> OK, so here's the problem. I used to be the nerdy type of person who
> would read user manuals front to back in order to learn every possible
> in and out of a device. Then I got older, accumulated
> responsibilities, life got in the way, and dang it if I can't seem to
> figure out what is likely a very simple solution in my iPhone.
> 
> Can someone please explain to me, in dumb people language, how to make
> sense of the volume controls in my iPhone? I want the alerts
> themselves to be reasonably loud, but I want Voiceover itself to be
> lower in volume. I can't seem to achieve this without dropping or
> raising the volume across the board, and I don't get that setting
> under Sounds that says the buttons can be locked. I want to be able to
> use my buttons to drop or raise sound volume, but I still want to be
> able to tell the phone to keep system sounds a little louder to grab
> my attention but Voiceover softer to maintain some sort of privacy.
> 
> If that makes any kind of sense, I'd really appreciate your help.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Joe
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Understanding Volume Controls

[Joe Orozco]

OK, so here's the problem. I used to be the nerdy type of person who
would read user manuals front to back in order to learn every possible
in and out of a device. Then I got older, accumulated
responsibilities, life got in the way, and dang it if I can't seem to
figure out what is likely a very simple solution in my iPhone.

Can someone please explain to me, in dumb people language, how to make
sense of the volume controls in my iPhone? I want the alerts
themselves to be reasonably loud, but I want Voiceover itself to be
lower in volume. I can't seem to achieve this without dropping or
raising the volume across the board, and I don't get that setting
under Sounds that says the buttons can be locked. I want to be able to
use my buttons to drop or raise sound volume, but I still want to be
able to tell the phone to keep system sounds a little louder to grab
my attention but Voiceover softer to maintain some sort of privacy.

If that makes any kind of sense, I'd really appreciate your help.

Thanks!

Joe

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RE: how do I speed up the Seeri voice

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Lastly, I didn't find anyplace to affect the Seeri voice. I switched it 
back to the somewhat insipid American female. 
Now, it's time to leave the list and get to work.
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Subject: how do I speed up the Seeri voice

I now have a very sick sounding Australian female Seeri. How do I speed her
up?

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how do I speed up the Seeri voice

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

I now have a very sick sounding Australian female Seeri. How do I speed her
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RE: another quirk after updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Anna,

I see the feature you described. It definitely will help to avoid confusion and 
uncertainty over choosing the syntax Siri is trained to recognize. Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: another quirk after updating

 

Hello Deidre,

 

Once you contact Miles, if you go to Siri settings and go to the shortcuts 
section, you should see a shortcut to contact him. You can assign a phrase to 
that shortcut like, "Call Miles," and use it to contact him in the future.

 

Have you deleted and reinstalled TuneIn yet? sounds like that should fix it.

 

VoiceOver only uses one voice throughout the phone. There are more options for 
voices in iOS 12 than 10, though, I think.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Aug 8, 2019, at 9:31 AM, 'Deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

Hello again

I just asked Seeri to text a friend by the name of Miles. She asked me which 
one I wanted and gave me 3 other names all beginning with the letter M. Now I 
take it the phone wants me to always include a last name if I want her to get 
it right the first time around. I have no last name plugged in for some of my 
contacts, and that was my intention, not due to laziness.

And as I predicted, even though Tune In was still in the app 
switcher, it would not resume when I went back to it. Maybe I'll delete it and 
install it again. If it does the same thing, I might look for an alternative.

Drag.

Only other thing I notice is that my voice selection is no longer a 
global setting, but some functions now have a different voice. I need to go 
look for the voice settings and see what I like. I heard a young female teenage 
voice on someone's phone some months ago and I really liked it.

 

Deidre

 

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RE: another quirk after updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Anna

Why the need for the extra step to get Seeri to recognize someone in my contact 
folder? I always used to simply say text and the name of the person, and almost 
always only used a first name. That worked. Using Seeri to make calls has been 
far less reliable. I guess I'll have to do the shortcut thing, but really... 
It's like Richard saying that the Company field doesn't work. Why put it there 
then?  

  All is pretty much worked out by now, except for the different voices. I 
definitely have things like the reminders in the old voice but, Seeri has a new 
chosen voice since updating. I scanned through some settings after the updates 
to see what might have been switched on, but didn't look at 

seeri at all. I'll do that now.

  Yes, I deleted the Tune In App and installed it again. Since I had no 
sign in, I had to put my local stations and shows in again. At first even 
though I hit on the favorite button, to select a local radio station, voice 
over did not say selected. When I put a show in and in that case it indicated 
that it had been selected. Oh well. So much for consistency. It's not a deal 
breaker.

 

  Deidre

 

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Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:16 AM
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Hello Deidre,

 

Once you contact Miles, if you go to Siri settings and go to the shortcuts 
section, you should see a shortcut to contact him. You can assign a phrase to 
that shortcut like, "Call Miles," and use it to contact him in the future.

 

Have you deleted and reinstalled TuneIn yet? sounds like that should fix it.

 

VoiceOver only uses one voice throughout the phone. There are more options for 
voices in iOS 12 than 10, though, I think.

 

Best,

Anna

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A question about crosstrainers.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi all.

Does anyone here on list know if there are an accessible crosstrainer, that can 
be operated via an app or you can operate it on the crosstrainer, and get the 
results on your phone.

I have been looking at bowflex and sole e35.

Best Annie.

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Re: how are people liking Apple news plus?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Keith,

I didn’t find the Apple News plus subscription to be worth it. I subscribe to 
many blogs with the main function of Apple Nes. I just found that News flooded 
my newsfeed with stuff I didn’t want to read. The accessibility was amazing, 
but that’s as far of a compliment that I can give it. The content simply isn’t 
there to keep my interest.

Ed W. 

> On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:03 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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> hi,
> I am wondering how people are liking Apple news plus. I tried it for the free 
> trial soon after it was introduced, and I didn’t particularly care for it. It 
> seemed a little clunky.
> I have heard that there have been some improvements. Can someone, or several, 
> who use this now, please explain how well it’s working?
> Thanks, Keith
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Re: A Message In Native Twitter Client?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Fuzzel,

You will have to go to the profile menu in the top left hand corner of the app, 
double tap, navigate down to settings, and find the privacy options in the 
settings menu. You then will toggle on/off any of the options you would or 
would not like to be active.

I hope this helps.

Ed W.

> On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:34 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, list.
> I use native twitter client of iPhone.
> It does not show the text of some of the tweets , it gives the following 
> message instead:
> “This Tweet may include sensitive content. In order to view it, you’ll need 
> to change your sensitive media selection. You can find this under the Safety 
> section of your Privacy and safety account settings.”
> How can I do what this message wants me to do, please?
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Re: another quirk after updating

[Anna Dresner]

Hello Deidre,

Once you contact Miles, if you go to Siri settings and go to the shortcuts 
section, you should see a shortcut to contact him. You can assign a phrase to 
that shortcut like, "Call Miles," and use it to contact him in the future.

Have you deleted and reinstalled TuneIn yet? sounds like that should fix it.

VoiceOver only uses one voice throughout the phone. There are more options for 
voices in iOS 12 than 10, though, I think.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 8, 2019, at 9:31 AM, 'Deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello again
> I just asked Seeri to text a friend by the name of Miles. She asked me which 
> one I wanted and gave me 3 other names all beginning with the letter M. Now I 
> take it the phone wants me to always include a last name if I want her to get 
> it right the first time around. I have no last name plugged in for some of my 
> contacts, and that was my intention, not due to laziness.
> And as I predicted, even though Tune In was still in the app 
> switcher, it would not resume when I went back to it. Maybe I'll delete it 
> and install it again. If it does the same thing, I might look for an 
> alternative.
> Drag.
> Only other thing I notice is that my voice selection is no longer 
> a global setting, but some functions now have a different voice. I need to go 
> look for the voice settings and see what I like. I heard a young female 
> teenage voice on someone's phone some months ago and I really liked it.
>  
> Deidre
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another quirk after updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Hello again

I just asked Seeri to text a friend by the name of Miles. She asked me which 
one I wanted and gave me 3 other names all beginning with the letter M. Now I 
take it the phone wants me to always include a last name if I want her to get 
it right the first time around. I have no last name plugged in for some of my 
contacts, and that was my intention, not due to laziness.

And as I predicted, even though Tune In was still in the app 
switcher, it would not resume when I went back to it. Maybe I'll delete it and 
install it again. If it does the same thing, I might look for an alternative.

Drag.

Only other thing I notice is that my voice selection is no longer a 
global setting, but some functions now have a different voice. I need to go 
look for the voice settings and see what I like. I heard a young female teenage 
voice on someone's phone some months ago and I really liked it.

 

Deidre

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Re: updating

[Richard Turner]

Has the app settled down to where you can use it now?
I'm wondering if without a sign in account, if you can no longer add a favorite?
I doubt that, but since I have an account, I cannot test this.


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On Aug 8, 2019, at 6:02 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Richard,
I remember now, that what you wrote, is how to remove a 
favorite. I wonder why, on the other hand, that I can't add one!
I thought I'd done the double tap and hold to reorder things 
but will try again, that is if it comes up once I take the phone off lock and 
try to resume the stream that was playing before I stopped it.

Deidre
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

For quite a while now, the way to remove a favorite is to open it and double 
tap on the unfavorite button, or deselecting the favorite button.
To rearrange favorites is not documented, but I found a slightly tedious way to 
do it.
You double tap and hold on a favorite, and slide up or down in your list.
Given the size of my SE, you cannot move stations a very long way at once; but 
with some trial and error, I got things rearranged.

I'm sorry TuneIn is being so difficult.
You may want to try the reboot with holding the power and home buttons for 
about 6 or 8 seconds to do the forced reboot.

Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."
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On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:00 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Dave
Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?



From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.
Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
mailto:du...@weisenborn.us>> wrote:
The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

- Original Message -
From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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Re: how can I get my voice over to stop trying to change the voice rate when trying to swipe and flick in other apps

[Richard Turner]

Yes, you can add or remove all kinds of things from the rotor other than 
language.
Open settings, general, accessibility, voiceover, and scroll down to rotor.
Anything that says selected is on the rotor.  If you double tap it so it 
doesn't say selected, it will not show up on the rotor.
You can also reorder things if you like by double tapping and holding on the 
reorder button and dragging it up or down in the list.

HTH,


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> On Aug 8, 2019, at 6:31 AM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> So there's a way to take speaking rate out of the rotor permanently?  How 
> does one do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sherry Wells
> 
> -Original Message-
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> rate when trying to swipe and flick in other apps
> 
> You could take speaking rate out of the rotor so when you want to change the 
> speaking rate, you have to go into VoiceOver Settings, speaking Rate.
> Or, make sure you turn the rotor so it is not on speaking rate before swiping 
> in those apps.
> 
> 
> Richard
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>> with the bard moble app is so much fun.
>> However, when trying to use regular voice over gestures in some apps 
>> like google asistant, and inside the bard mobile app itself, I am 
>> having a real annoying problem.  Sometimes when I'm trying to use 
>> regular voice over gestures in the app, instead of going to different 
>> sections of the app, my voice over will begin to change the speech 
>> rate when I don't want it to.  I know how to use the roater to change 
>> my voice rate, but I don't want it happening when I don't want it to.
>> If anyone has any suggestions, please help.  I don't know which app it 
>> will happen with, or when it will happen.  Other then this annoying 
>> problem, I'm really enjoying using my new iPyhone.
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RE: how can I get my voice over to stop trying to change the voice rate when trying to swipe and flick in other apps

[sherrywells1157]

So there's a way to take speaking rate out of the rotor permanently?  How does 
one do this?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
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Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how can I get my voice over to stop trying to change the voice 
rate when trying to swipe and flick in other apps

You could take speaking rate out of the rotor so when you want to change the 
speaking rate, you have to go into VoiceOver Settings, speaking Rate.
Or, make sure you turn the rotor so it is not on speaking rate before swiping 
in those apps.


Richard

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> On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I am really enjoying my new iPhone.  Downloading books 
> with the bard moble app is so much fun.
>  However, when trying to use regular voice over gestures in some apps 
> like google asistant, and inside the bard mobile app itself, I am 
> having a real annoying problem.  Sometimes when I'm trying to use 
> regular voice over gestures in the app, instead of going to different 
> sections of the app, my voice over will begin to change the speech 
> rate when I don't want it to.  I know how to use the roater to change 
> my voice rate, but I don't want it happening when I don't want it to.
> If anyone has any suggestions, please help.  I don't know which app it 
> will happen with, or when it will happen.  Other then this annoying 
> problem, I'm really enjoying using my new iPyhone.
> --
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
> Joshua Hendrickson
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RE: updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Richard,

I remember now, that what you wrote, is how to remove a 
favorite. I wonder why, on the other hand, that I can't add one! 

I thought I'd done the double tap and hold to reorder things 
but will try again, that is if it comes up once I take the phone off lock and 
try to resume the stream that was playing before I stopped it.

 

Deidre

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

 

For quite a while now, the way to remove a favorite is to open it and double 
tap on the unfavorite button, or deselecting the favorite button. 

To rearrange favorites is not documented, but I found a slightly tedious way to 
do it.

You double tap and hold on a favorite, and slide up or down in your list.

Given the size of my SE, you cannot move stations a very long way at once; but 
with some trial and error, I got things rearranged.

 

I'm sorry TuneIn is being so difficult.

You may want to try the reboot with holding the power and home buttons for 
about 6 or 8 seconds to do the forced reboot.

 

Richard 

 

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indistinguishable from magic." 

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On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:00 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

Dave

Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

 

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?

 

 

 

From: Deidre   Muccio 

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: updating

 

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre 

 


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  wrote:

The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

- Original Message -
From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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Re: updating

[Richard Turner]

For quite a while now, the way to remove a favorite is to open it and double 
tap on the unfavorite button, or deselecting the favorite button.
To rearrange favorites is not documented, but I found a slightly tedious way to 
do it.
You double tap and hold on a favorite, and slide up or down in your list.
Given the size of my SE, you cannot move stations a very long way at once; but 
with some trial and error, I got things rearranged.

I'm sorry TuneIn is being so difficult.
You may want to try the reboot with holding the power and home buttons for 
about 6 or 8 seconds to do the forced reboot.


Richard

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On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:00 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Dave
Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?



From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.
Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
mailto:du...@weisenborn.us>> wrote:
The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

- Original Message -
From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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RE: updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Dave

Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point. 

 

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Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
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Subject: Re: updating

 

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?

 

 

 

From: Deidre   Muccio 

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: updating

 

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre 

 


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  wrote:

The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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Tune In

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

It's taking forever to load up. I get no voice over unless I wait 4 or  more 
minutes and tap around, the tapping around may be doing nothing. I will seek 
some sighted help to see if anything is coming up on the screen. All my other 
apps like YouTube and Facebook work great, in fact better. 

I see no settings or options in Tune In for anything anymore 
other than to create a sign in or go premium. The favorites button no longer 
works to put something into my favorites, formerly the Profile Tab, and I lost 
2 of my local stations. 

As for logging in, their policy is just that a license 
agreement and privacy terms policy, but it has a dark tone to it which made me 
not want to create a login, plus I would need to know in advance if I can stay 
logged in or not. 

Then I see no way to remove old stations, no edit button, no 
gesture that I am aware of to remove or change the order in which my favorites 
and podcasts are listed. Is there a new gesture that I am missing?

The update took very little time which I was thrilled about. 
The only hitch is the problem I'm having with Tune-In. I fear I will go through 
a whole new set of antics if I delete the App and install it fresh. I'm talking 
about the free version.

Thanks all for helping bring me more up to 
date. I knew listers hear would be the best source for correct info.

 

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Re: a quick question about updating my iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Yes. It sounds like you did it correctly, but Apple was behind in having it 
realize you had updated.
I've seen this kind of thing before where you did the update, then told there 
was an update.
I just power off and back on when that happens and it clears it up.


Richard

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> On Aug 8, 2019, at 4:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I seem to have successfully updated my iPhone to 12.4.
> This morning I took a quick look at my phone and told there was an
> update available to 12.4.  I said ok when I was asked if I wanted to
> update.  I had to enter in my passcode then I saw a message verifying
> update
> .  I waited a couple minutes, then I got a message saying try again
> and I reentered my passcode.  I went to settings general about and saw
> my phone now says 12.4.  I then shut down my phone and restarted my
> phone.  Did I do the update process the correct way.
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Hi to all.  I'm just making sure I can send a message to the group.

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a quick question about updating my iPhone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I seem to have successfully updated my iPhone to 12.4.
This morning I took a quick look at my phone and told there was an
update available to 12.4.  I said ok when I was asked if I wanted to
update.  I had to enter in my passcode then I saw a message verifying
update
.  I waited a couple minutes, then I got a message saying try again
and I reentered my passcode.  I went to settings general about and saw
my phone now says 12.4.  I then shut down my phone and restarted my
phone.  Did I do the update process the correct way.
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Re: updating

[Dave]

works fine for me too.

On all 3 of my phones. iphone 8, 6s, and iPhone 6.

Dave.


From: Richard Turner 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: updating

if you setup a login for TuneIn, you can delete the app and reinstall it and 
sign in again and it will remember your favorites. 
TuneIn worked fine for me with iOS 12.4.



Richard 

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  On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:


   I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software 
update. But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.


  Deidre 


  On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
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The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

- Original Message -
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone 
is not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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Re: updating

[Dave]

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?



From: Deidre Muccio 
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: updating

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.


Deidre 


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  The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
  Subject: RE: updating

  I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone 
is not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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Re: updating

[Dave]

It will take time, for the phone to settle. So keep it plugged in, for a few 
hours.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 1:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

The update was actually very quick. But I still have no tune in radio. It 
won’t load up. That’s a disappointment.


Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:02 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
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   Ok, Dave. I hear you.
   I had a hard time deciding to do without the phone tonight, since it is 
still early in the evening. I know it will take time. I'm now eager to see 
the result. However, as I suspected I might,  I lost Tune In Radio when I 
updated. It won't open. Maybe after I update the IOS, it will.


Deidre
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating


One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as
you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, 
and
install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. 
So

don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it
plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do
that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to
reboot their phones.

Dave.




-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for
the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow 
morning.From

the PC!

Deidre



On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:

If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should
have no problems.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current
iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big
jump.

Deidre



On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
wrote:

Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but
over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick
with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want
to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at 
this

point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works
with older versions of iOS will continue to work?

-Original Message-
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating

I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more
for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12
was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs,
improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new
features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this
and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just
received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop
support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit
architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth
generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer
work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been
upgraded at least to iOS 11.
The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend
you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:

1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your
apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your
phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings >
General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the 
installation
finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night 
since

there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major
update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and
you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is
snappier than before.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices
in iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security
fixes as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since
developers tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating