Re: Blind Apples, another list

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Thanks Richard for the info.  I will also join the list.  I didn't
know of it until you sent this message to us on this list.

On 9/28/21, Wendy Lin  wrote:
> Thanks for the info! I’ll join! It’s nice to be on multiple Apple groups!
> :)
>
>> On Sep 28, 2021, at 11:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
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>> Bye!
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checking braille settings on 7 little words

[Janet Bell]

Morning as the subject says where can I check the braille settings in 
seven little words.  thank you for any help.



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Re: Blind Apples, another list

[Wendy Lin]

Thanks for the info! I’ll join! It’s nice to be on multiple Apple groups! :)

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 11:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Bye!
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RE: Blind Apples, another list

[Richard Turner]

Simon,
I did not say bye, are you leaving?




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Blind Apples, another list

Bye!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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RE: Blind Apples, another list

[Simon A Fogarty]

Bye!

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Blind Apples, another list

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Re: new mispronunciation in 14.8; is it fixed in 15?

[Donna Casteen]

I use Samantha Enhanced. I have not had the pronunciation problem in IOS 14.8 
nor IOS 15 that you described. Most of the pronunciation problems with Samantha 
Enhanced have been fix. The 2 words that haven't been corrected by Apple that I 
have come across so far are: onto said as onta & defeat said as defeaturing.

Donna
 
> Hi, I just sent the below to apple accessibility.  Curious if any of you have 
> noticed it and if it’s fixed in IOS 15.
> 
>  
> 
> Since updating to IOS 14.8, I noticed a very strange mispronunciation.  I 
> first saw it with reading an email from Southwest  Airlines using VoiceOver. 
> Then I noticed it when reading a news story in Newsify where  the article 
> mentioned South Carolina. This happens using Samantha and Samantha Enhanced 
> and wit Siri #1 and Siri #4.  It did not occur when I switched to Alex. 
> 
>  
> 
> Examples:
> 
> “South Carolina:   - If I read by word, it reads correctly.  If I read by 
> line or continuous reading, it just says something like “Saw ja tee” and 
> won’t even say “Carolina”.  If I ask Siri for the capital of S.C., she will 
> mispronounce “South” the same way, but will say “Carolina”. 
> 
>  
> 
> South Pacific:  VoiceOver will mispronounce “South” as above, but will 
> correctly say Pacific when reading by line or continuously
> 
>  
> 
> When I type “Southwest”,,   it is reading it correctly, but was not reading 
> it correctly on the header for my email from Southwest Airlines. It sounds 
> like it is saying “saw ja tee west”.
> 
>  
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> This could be fixed in IOS 15, but I haven’t upgraded yet, having heard about 
> a VoiceOver bug in the App switcher.
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Regarding updating apps.

[Maria Heinrichs]

Hi. This is Maria. I hope this isn't off topic but since someone else 
was talking about certain game apps I guess I can ask as well. So Dice 
world hasn't been updated in about a year. I asked the developer in an 
e-mail directly why there hasn't been an update and he hasn't gotten 
back. One time I asked about Game world and he said Apple didn't give 
them the resources to update. Do apps often not get updated because 
Apple doesn't give the developers the resources, whatever the developer 
means by resources? Thanks.


Maria

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Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Esther Levegnale]

I have a 7+, which I like very much, but eventually I want to get the new 13 
Pro Max once the bugs are ironed out. Thanks so much. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Esther, all of us who have 15 have the bugs, but they should be addressed in 
> future updates. So, the same would be true on a new iPhone. 
> 
> I want to get the 13 Minni, and plan to do so after the first of 2022. 
> Incidentally, I want Starlight. 
> 
> Do you have 15 on your 8? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
> 
> how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me 
> not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to 
> get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther
> 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
>On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday 
> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra 
> Blue, 256GB.
> 
>(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a 
> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)
> 
> 
> 
>Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my 
> package would be delivered today, not Monday. 
> 
> 
> 
>We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless 
> data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar…
> 
>You know what happens when you assume?...
> 
> 
> 
>After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple 
> Accessibility.
> 
>I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with 
> us through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had us 
> reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
> went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, 
> but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.
> 
> 
> 
>I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping.  It 
> is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip.
> 
> 
> 
>I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely.  
> The case came with a surprise; a stand.  It is like the decrotive plate 
> holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at 
> one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in 
> landscape mode.
> 
> 
> 
>I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below.
> 
> 
> 
>The Sound.  Well, I was expecting better sound.  I was not expecting this 
> quality of sound.  When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting 
> at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very 
> clear and the sound quality is quite impressive.
> 
>Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the 
> SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about 
> on the display.  The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation.  
> Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE 
> second generation, the separation is noticeably better.
> 
>I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite 
> impressed.
> 
> 
> 
>Setting up Face ID was very easy.  VoiceOver walks you through the setup 
> with good directions.  Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know 
> that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can 
> turn it on if you wish.  I wouldn’t do that.  That requires very specific 
> focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera.  It makes 
> unlocking the phone quite fast.
> 
> 
> 
>I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a 
> fair amount.
> 
> 
> 
>My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 
> 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit.  It goes in upside down from the 
> way it was in the SE 2020.  Then, it works fine.  I am on Xfinity, and I 
> could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to 
> make sure.
> 
>I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, 
> etc.
> 
> 
> 
>I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used 
> to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet.
> 
> 
> 
>I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning.  Very promising.  
> One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on 
> 

RE: Fix for the issue with Voiceover not saying the name of some apps in the App Switcher

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, or you can flick left and back to the right since I have always had 
Voiceover speak everything when I was going to the right, but why not make this 
small change and it's fixed unless of course you have a good reason why you 
don't want to turn off Reduce Motion.

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: September 28, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fix for the issue with Voiceover not saying the name of some apps 
in the App Switcher

An alternative is just to tap the screen when VoiceOver merely says "Active", 
because then VoiceOver does speak the name of the app.
Harry


On 28 Sep 2021, at 19:42, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I received a tip on another list regarding the issue where when you bring up 
the app switcher and flick left through your open apps Voiceover only says 
"Active, actions available" or something like that but it doesn't first say the 
name of the app you are on. I think on Applevis it said that it affects only 
some users and that would make sense because it seems the solution here is to 
turn off Reduced Motion and I assume some people may not have turned this 
setting on to begin with hence they probably don't have the issue.
For me on my iPhone 11 turning off Reduced Motion entirely fixed this and I 
must say that I can't notice much of a difference in other areas not having 
this on. I think I turned it on many years ago because when this option was 
first available there was a different issue and it made sense for voiceover 
users to turn Reduced Motion on, but I'm not sure if this is still even a 
concern.
Anyways, if you have this problem with Voiceover in the app switcher, just go 
to Settings > Accessibility > Motion (the fourth item if you flick from the 
top) and check if Reduced Motion is on, if so turn it off and I am pretty 
certain your app switcher will work just fine.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Richard Turner]

Joe and others,
This is the very first time in my years on this list that I used a silly 
subject line to grab folks attention.  It clearly worked.

I did not expect it to go off the rails.

If this group was on groups.io it would be easy to mute subjects when they have 
either proven to be off topic or of no interest.

I certainly will never post a subject line this obscure in the future.

I am rethinking how much I will post on a list that is essentially unmoderated.

I think I will stick to replying when I have something to ad, and only post new 
messages to Blind Apples group on groups.io where there is real moderators.

Thanks,

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Would you mind kindly using more descriptive subject lines for better sorting? 
Thanks much for your initial impressions of the new iPhone.--Joe

On 9/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well Mr. Ring,
>
> You must not have bothered to read my original post.
> I started out with:
> OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came 
> yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 
> 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB.
> (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will 
> post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)
>
>
> It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed 
> to receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that.  
> Though, it got your attention. .
>
> You seem to just like being critical.
>
> So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense 
> of humor.  Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic 
> which the moderator seems also to not give a damn about.  So, there you have 
> it.
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C0063f643fe8c44161cea08d982c1f60f%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637684591832792663%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ZKvFq0ZVzATsiFo22Sekul0SkJW4p12PXe0nNB
> EUHik%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> richr...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen!
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize 
> Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts?
> Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact 
> selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.
> For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 
> 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other 
> notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is 
> locked or not.
> Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the 
> various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you 
> accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. 
> If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on 
> my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both 
> devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s 
> still on iOS 14.8.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said 
> you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> 

Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Joe Orozco]

Would you mind kindly using more descriptive subject lines for better
sorting? Thanks much for your initial impressions of the new
iPhone.--Joe

On 9/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well Mr. Ring,
>
> You must not have bothered to read my original post.
> I started out with:
> OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday
> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra
> Blue, 256GB.
> (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a
> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)
>
>
> It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed to
> receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that.  Though,
> it got your attention. .
>
> You seem to just like being critical.
>
> So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense of
> humor.  Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic which the
> moderator seems also to not give a damn about.  So, there you have it.
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> richr...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen!
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications
> that a sound is selected for each of your accounts?
> Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected
> and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.
> For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15
> and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications
> are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not.
> Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various
> focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on
> notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m
> using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person
> and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone
> on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you
> aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my
> business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo
> (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS
> release addressing it.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made
> sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the
> email sound I have set for my personal account.
> I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up
> in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and
> sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test".
> When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel,
> Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't
> actually write anything in the message body.
>
>
> From: 

Re: Problem With Siri

[Tali Sarnetzky]

hank you both for your replies.
Liel, You might be right.
Siegert, I totally agree with you, but each person does things their
own way, I suppose.

I also received a suggestion to call Apple accessibility and I think
this is what I will suggest to my friend.

Thank you all again.

Have a great day,
Tali T

On 9/28/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Why not just go to the Phone App, tap on the Recent Calls tab and then near
> the top you can select either "All" or "Missed". By default All is selected,
> double tap on Missed and all your missed calls are displayed.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali
> Sarnetzky
> Sent: September 27, 2021 3:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Problem With Siri
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I have a friend in Australia who has been trying to get Siri to read him
> missed calls for a few days now, only to be told this service is unavailable
> right now and to try later. I have never used this feature myself, so I did
> not know it was possible, but he says he has used it often for a long time.
> He hasn't updated to IOS 15 yet, so we are not sure what the problem might
> be.
>
> Any advice would be very very appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tali
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RE: Apple One

[brent]

I wonder if it prorates automatically, and then just charges the difference, or 
leaves credit on your account for next time automatically, depending on how 
early in the billing cycle you do it. I know they aren't necessarily as hard 
about the refund situation as one has been lead to believe in the past, or 
maybe the rules have changed since then. I had forgotten to get rid of a trial 
to an app I decided I didn't want a whole year of, submitted the refund form on 
their site, using the option that I did not want it renewed, or whatever the 
wording actually says to that effect, and they did refund me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple One

Hi Mary,

While I have not had experience with the subscriptions, I would think that if 
you decide you wish to go for the premium bundle, Apple would be cooperative in 
assisting you with a refund. I’m not certain that Apple accessibility could 
take care of it, but I would think that you would get cooperation from Apple. 
Hopefully, somebody who has more experience will respond to your query.
Best regards,
Les

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry for that vague subject line. I am interested to know if anybody 
> has experience in signing up for an Apple one bundle when you might be in the 
> middle of a subscription which is included in that bundle. For instance, I 
> have Apple Music, and my husband has Apple TV+. We are in a family sharing 
> group. My music subscription is about to run out, and it is a yearly one, so 
> if I pay for it in a couple of days I have it for a year. What happens if, 
> after I’ve renewed that subscription, we decide to go for the Apple one 
> premium or whatever it’s called, $30 a month that gets you everything, like 
> Apple Arcade that I don’t care about, but that’s another matter. Do you just 
> lose all the money you paid? I’ve tried to Google around and haven’t had much 
> success. So, has anybody done this?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Fix for the issue with Voiceover not saying the name of some apps in the App Switcher

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

An alternative is just to tap the screen when VoiceOver merely says "Active", 
because then VoiceOver does speak the name of the app. 
Harry

> On 28 Sep 2021, at 19:42, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I received a tip on another list regarding the issue where when you bring up 
> the app switcher and flick left through your open apps Voiceover only says 
> "Active, actions available" or something like that but it doesn't first say 
> the name of the app you are on. I think on Applevis it said that it affects 
> only some users and that would make sense because it seems the solution here 
> is to turn off Reduced Motion and I assume some people may not have turned 
> this setting on to begin with hence they probably don't have the issue.
> For me on my iPhone 11 turning off Reduced Motion entirely fixed this and I 
> must say that I can't notice much of a difference in other areas not having 
> this on. I think I turned it on many years ago because when this option was 
> first available there was a different issue and it made sense for voiceover 
> users to turn Reduced Motion on, but I'm not sure if this is still even a 
> concern.
> Anyways, if you have this problem with Voiceover in the app switcher, just go 
> to Settings > Accessibility > Motion (the fourth item if you flick from the 
> top) and check if Reduced Motion is on, if so turn it off and I am pretty 
> certain your app switcher will work just fine.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And your message qualifies for that honor as well, as Forest Gump said "Stupid 
is as stupid does"
As Richard said, maybe read first and complain later. Richard was simply 
injecting a bit of fun and levity into his post.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richr...@gmail.com
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that 
a sound is selected for each of your accounts?
Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected 
and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.
For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I 
had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all 
coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in 
mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus 
options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on 
notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.
I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".
When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.
I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 

Fix for the issue with Voiceover not saying the name of some apps in the App Switcher

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I received a tip on another list regarding the issue where when you bring up 
the app switcher and flick left through your open apps Voiceover only says 
"Active, actions available" or something like that but it doesn't first say the 
name of the app you are on. I think on Applevis it said that it affects only 
some users and that would make sense because it seems the solution here is to 
turn off Reduced Motion and I assume some people may not have turned this 
setting on to begin with hence they probably don't have the issue.
For me on my iPhone 11 turning off Reduced Motion entirely fixed this and I 
must say that I can't notice much of a difference in other areas not having 
this on. I think I turned it on many years ago because when this option was 
first available there was a different issue and it made sense for voiceover 
users to turn Reduced Motion on, but I'm not sure if this is still even a 
concern.
Anyways, if you have this problem with Voiceover in the app switcher, just go 
to Settings > Accessibility > Motion (the fourth item if you flick from the 
top) and check if Reduced Motion is on, if so turn it off and I am pretty 
certain your app switcher will work just fine.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Richard Turner]

Well Mr. Ring,

You must not have bothered to read my original post.
I started out with:
OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday 
cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 
256GB.
(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link 
to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)


It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed to 
receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that.  Though, it 
got your attention. .

You seem to just like being critical.

So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense of 
humor.  Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic which the 
moderator seems also to not give a damn about.  So, there you have it.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that 
a sound is selected for each of your accounts?
Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected 
and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.
For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I 
had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all 
coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in 
mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus 
options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on 
notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.
I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".
When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in 

RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It definitely won't hurt.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 28, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

I did that after updating to 15; should I do it again? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Yes, I meant turning the phone off completely and then turn it back on after 20 
or 30 seconds.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 28, 2021 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Do you mean turn off then back on? Or not? And if not, what do I do to reboot, 
please? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Have you rebooted your phone. I still experience the opposite at times, I have 
it set to lock after 1 minute and found that in previous versions of iOS, e.g. 
14, 13, it would sometimes not lock and I am pretty sure it is still doing that 
in iOS 15 as well. I can fix this by rebooting the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 27, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

 

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never, yet, now, it is 
locking on its own. 

 

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess! 

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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, it must be a known bug then for certain devices just as it seems to be 
the case with the Wallet app crashing. I was at first a bit hesitant to 
upgrade, but at this point this is probably the least buggy and most stable 
upgrade I have done in quite a few years. I have an iPhone 11 and I have really 
no issues at all and I'm happy I upgraded because SIRI works so much better now.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Yes, I did all this on my own and while on the phone with Apple Accessibility. 
Again, the Apple guy looked it up and noted that it was a known bug.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that 
a sound is selected for each of your accounts?
Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected 
and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.
For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I 
had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all 
coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in 
mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus 
options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on 
notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.
I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".
When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.
I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week 

RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Carolyn]

I did that after updating to 15; should I do it again? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Yes, I meant turning the phone off completely and then turn it back on after 20 
or 30 seconds.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 28, 2021 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Do you mean turn off then back on? Or not? And if not, what do I do to reboot, 
please? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Have you rebooted your phone. I still experience the opposite at times, I have 
it set to lock after 1 minute and found that in previous versions of iOS, e.g. 
14, 13, it would sometimes not lock and I am pretty sure it is still doing that 
in iOS 15 as well. I can fix this by rebooting the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 27, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

 

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never, yet, now, it is 
locking on its own. 

 

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess! 

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RE: new Seven Little Words

[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks for sharing this. Maybe I’ll take a look. I’d prefer something on my 
iPhone as I can then do it anywhere in the house or if I am away.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 28 September 2021 08:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words

 

Hi Alison you can go to seven little words on line but you only et the first 
puzzle.  there is also a game you can download on your phone called Blindfold 
Seven Words which gives you seven clues and a whole load of letters to sort out 
that is the only one I can think off Take care and stay safe because you really 
don't want the virus.  I hope they fix the Braille as it is in a mess as well.  
Janet

On 28/09/2021 07:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

Many thanks. I do miss doing the puzzle over a cup of tea in the morning. I 
don’t know of anything similar.

 

Alison

 

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Re: new mispronunciation in 14.8; is it fixed in 15?

[Esther Levegnale]

funny thing! I noticed the miss pronunciation as well. Like you, I went through 
the letters and they were all correct. How weird is this? Ha ha! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:29 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I just sent the below to apple accessibility.  Curious if any of you have 
> noticed it and if it’s fixed in IOS 15.
>  
> Since updating to IOS 14.8, I noticed a very strange mispronunciation.  I 
> first saw it with reading an email from Southwest  Airlines using VoiceOver. 
> Then I noticed it when reading a news story in Newsify where  the article 
> mentioned South Carolina. This happens using Samantha and Samantha Enhanced 
> and wit Siri #1 and Siri #4.  It did not occur when I switched to Alex. 
>  
> Examples:
> “South Carolina:   - If I read by word, it reads correctly.  If I read by 
> line or continuous reading, it just says something like “Saw ja tee” and 
> won’t even say “Carolina”.  If I ask Siri for the capital of S.C., she will 
> mispronounce “South” the same way, but will say “Carolina”. 
>  
> South Pacific:  VoiceOver will mispronounce “South” as above, but will 
> correctly say Pacific when reading by line or continuously
>  
> When I type “Southwest”,,   it is reading it correctly, but was not reading 
> it correctly on the header for my email from Southwest Airlines. It sounds 
> like it is saying “saw ja tee west”.
>  
> This could be fixed in IOS 15, but I haven’t upgraded yet, having heard about 
> a VoiceOver bug in the App switcher.
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Re: Question

[Donna Casteen]

If you haven't found the type of app that you are searching for, I have a 
suggestion. Have someone create a groups.io group. Church members will have to 
join the group. The group owner can setup the group to be used to send out 
emails only. Good luck on your original search.

Donna
> 
> 
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> doesn’t allow for members in the group to respond. It is for a church and 
> they want to use it for announcements only but want to avoid everyone 
> responding causing everyone to receive the responses. If anyone knows if 
> anything like this exists please let me know.
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Re: 7 little words version 7.0.12

[Janet Bell]

Hi Dan yes it has we are awaiting his next fix to see if he rectifies 
these errors.  Janet


On 28/09/2021 15:54, Dan wrote:


I haven't been following all the posts about this app so if this has 
been discussed just tell me and I'll go away. ;)



I know version 7.0.11 had accessibility issues, does anyone know if 
7.0.12 has them too?  If so then I definitely will not install.



Thanks.



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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yes, I did all this on my own and while on the phone with Apple Accessibility. 
Again, the Apple guy looked it up and noted that it was a known bug. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that 
a sound is selected for each of your accounts?

Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected 
and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.

For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I 
had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all 
coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in 
mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus 
options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on 
notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.

I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".

When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.

I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. 

Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too. 

If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come 
in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is 

RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[richring]

This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that 
a sound is selected for each of your accounts?

Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected 
and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.

For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I 
had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all 
coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in 
mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus 
options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on 
notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.

I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".

When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.

I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. 

Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too. 

If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come 
in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. 
Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even 

RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, I meant turning the phone off completely and then turn it back on after 20 
or 30 seconds.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 28, 2021 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Do you mean turn off then back on? Or not? And if not, what do I do to reboot, 
please? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Have you rebooted your phone. I still experience the opposite at times, I have 
it set to lock after 1 minute and found that in previous versions of iOS, e.g. 
14, 13, it would sometimes not lock and I am pretty sure it is still doing that 
in iOS 15 as well. I can fix this by rebooting the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 27, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

 

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never, yet, now, it is 
locking on its own. 

 

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess! 

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RE: screen record

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When you say you went to Control Centre, how do you do this? It almost sounds 
like you are going to Settings > Control Centre which is where you set up what 
you want to appear in your Control Centre, but to actually bring up the Control 
Centre you touch the status bar and drag your finger down the screen a little 
ways until you get the first haptic feedback, if you continue down to the 
second you get notification centre.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: September 28, 2021 4:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen record

Hi

I went in to the control center but I can’t activate the screen recording 
unfortunately.
When I double tab on it, it says druggable. I can’t find the recording controls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 28 September 2021 11:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen record

You turn it on and then everything you do is recorded until you go back to 
Control Centre and turn it off again. At that point the session you recorded is 
saved to Photos as a video you can share.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 28, 2021 12:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen record

Hi

Can someone explain to me how to use the screen record please? I’m using iOS 15 
on my iphone se first generation. Thanks in advance for any help

Anthony
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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that 
a sound is selected for each of your accounts?
Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected 
and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.
For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I 
had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all 
coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in 
mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus 
options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on 
notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.
I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".
When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.
I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out.
Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too.
If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come 
in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. 
Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set 
to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help.
Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me.




Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa 

RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it. 

 

Cristóbal

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.

I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".

When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.

I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. 

Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too. 

If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come 
in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. 
Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set 
to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. 

Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me.

 

 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have 
an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have 
no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed 
the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app 
you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover 
Settings > Motion

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not 
to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get 
the new phone that is labeled as Pro 

Re: 7 little words version 7.0.12

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Dan,

The version that came out on Friday works pretty well. If you use braille, I 
recommend setting the alert time to 3 seconds or more, as braille output is now 
in the form of alert messages.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 28, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> I haven't been following all the posts about this app so if this has been 
> discussed just tell me and I'll go away. ;)
> 
> 
> 
> I know version 7.0.11 had accessibility issues, does anyone know if 7.0.12 
> has them too?  If so then I definitely will not install.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Esther Levegnale]

I have not ordered this phone yet. I know everyone is talking about ironing the 
bugs out and I certainly want to wait until that happens. Thanks everyone! I 
love this list! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Esther, all of us who have 15 have the bugs, but they should be addressed in 
> future updates. So, the same would be true on a new iPhone. 
> 
> I want to get the 13 Minni, and plan to do so after the first of 2022. 
> Incidentally, I want Starlight. 
> 
> Do you have 15 on your 8? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
> 
> how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me 
> not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to 
> get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther
> 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
>On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday 
> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra 
> Blue, 256GB.
> 
>(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a 
> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)
> 
> 
> 
>Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my 
> package would be delivered today, not Monday. 
> 
> 
> 
>We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless 
> data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar…
> 
>You know what happens when you assume?...
> 
> 
> 
>After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple 
> Accessibility.
> 
>I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with 
> us through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had us 
> reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
> went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, 
> but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.
> 
> 
> 
>I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping.  It 
> is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip.
> 
> 
> 
>I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely.  
> The case came with a surprise; a stand.  It is like the decrotive plate 
> holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at 
> one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in 
> landscape mode.
> 
> 
> 
>I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below.
> 
> 
> 
>The Sound.  Well, I was expecting better sound.  I was not expecting this 
> quality of sound.  When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting 
> at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very 
> clear and the sound quality is quite impressive.
> 
>Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the 
> SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about 
> on the display.  The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation.  
> Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE 
> second generation, the separation is noticeably better.
> 
>I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite 
> impressed.
> 
> 
> 
>Setting up Face ID was very easy.  VoiceOver walks you through the setup 
> with good directions.  Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know 
> that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can 
> turn it on if you wish.  I wouldn’t do that.  That requires very specific 
> focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera.  It makes 
> unlocking the phone quite fast.
> 
> 
> 
>I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a 
> fair amount.
> 
> 
> 
>My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 
> 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit.  It goes in upside down from the 
> way it was in the SE 2020.  Then, it works fine.  I am on Xfinity, and I 
> could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to 
> make sure.
> 
>I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, 
> etc.
> 
> 
> 
>I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used 
> to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet.
> 
> 
> 
>I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning.  Very promising.  
> One thing it does that might be nice 

RE: calculator issue

[Anthony Borg]

The one I was referring to is the one above the number 8, but the one I needed 
to use was the Subtract. Excellent explanation as usual. 

Thanks for your patience and support. 

Kind regards 

 

Anthony 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 28 September 2021 16:22
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: calculator issue

 

Anthony,

You are hitting the wrong button.  There is a plus/minus sign above the numbers 
on the calculator which I believe is used for formulas.

The layout of the Apple Calculator screen is starting from the top:

Result is the farthest toward the top of the screen.

Below that you will find a row with:

Clear (or it may say all clear) then to the right of it is the plus/minus, to 
the right of that is percent, to the right of that is divide.

 

The next row down is: 7, 8, 9. Multiply or times

 

The next row is: 4, 5, 6, Subtract or minus

 

The next row is: 1, 2, 3, Add or plus

The last row is: zero, decimal point, equals.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Anthony Borg
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: calculator issue

 

Hi 

 

By any chance, has anyone experienced a problem with the plus and minus sign of 
the calculator, because everytime I touch the plus sign both of them notify me  
plus and minus at the same time. 

I’m not sure if this problem if it is an iOS 15 bug. 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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Re: new Seven Little Words

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The version that came out on friday is pretty responsive on my second 
generation SE and does provide braille if Braille Alert Time is high enough. I 
have it set to 3 seconds, which is long enough to show the words and clues, but 
you can make it longer if necessary. I like it that the focus stays in the 
letters when I add a title or complete a word. If I were using it without 
speech, I would have to press Space with N to review recent VoiceOver messages, 
which would be annoying, but the game is definitely playable with speech and 
supplemental braille.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 28, 2021, at 2:05 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alison you can go to seven little words on line but you only et the first 
> puzzle.  there is also a game you can download on your phone called Blindfold 
> Seven Words which gives you seven clues and a whole load of letters to sort 
> out that is the only one I can think off Take care and stay safe because you 
> really don't want the virus.  I hope they fix the Braille as it is in a mess 
> as well.  Janet
> 
> On 28/09/2021 07:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
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>> don’t know of anything similar.
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Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Esther Levegnale]

Yes, I second that emotion!  and I did mean the word emotion! Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> But that is most interesting, Seigard, and you are so valuable to this list. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
> 
> We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up 
> rocks or tree stumps or similar things.
> 
> We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in 
> the end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that 
> moving on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the 
> full support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was 
> born and grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind 
> which prepared me very well not just academically but also in terms of the 
> skills I needed like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O and 
> so on. 3 Years after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto 
> at a private language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I 
> graduated from my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started 
> University where I eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. 
> Anyhow, enough biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
> 
> 
> 
> Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for?
> 
> 
> 
> Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your 
> hands and face.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> James B  
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
> 
> 
> 
> I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it 
> off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were 
> destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build 
> pipe bomb.
> 
> I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that 
> is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when 
> attention mode is turned off.
> 
> I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if 
> attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
> 
> 
> 
> Hi richard,
> 
> I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I 
> do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have 
> never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with 
> attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is 
> perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the 
> attention mode if I were you.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner   > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday 
> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra 
> Blue, 256GB.
> 
>(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a 
> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)
> 
> 
> 
>Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my 
> package would be delivered today, not Monday. 
> 
> 
> 
>We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless 
> data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar…
> 
>You know what happens when you assume?...
> 
> 
> 
>After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple 
> Accessibility.
> 
>I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with 
> us through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had us 
> reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
> went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, 
> but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.
> 
> 
> 
>  

RE: screen record

[Anthony Borg]

Many thanks for your explanation. 

Best regards 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 28 September 2021 16:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen record

 

Anthony,

IF you hear Drag item, you are in edit mode and should press your home button 
or do the gesture to get to the home screen which cancels editing.

 

IN brief, if you just want to record the screen to demonstrate to someone what 
VoiceOver is doing, make sure the screen curtain is off.

 

Then, if you double tap Screen Recording you will hear a countdown, 3, 2, 1, 
then it starts recording.

When you double tap on screen recording again, it will stop screen recording.

 

If there isn’t a more detailed walk-through on Applevis.com on how to use 
screen recording I will consider doing one.

 

That should get you started.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 4:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: screen record

 

Hi 

 

I went in to the control center but I can’t activate the screen recording 
unfortunately. 

When I double tab on it, it says druggable. I can’t find the recording 
controls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 September 2021 11:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: screen record

 

You turn it on and then everything you do is recorded until you go back to 
Control Centre and turn it off again. At that point the session you recorded is 
saved to Photos as a video you can share.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 28, 2021 12:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: screen record

 

Hi 

 

Can someone explain to me how to use the screen record please? I’m using iOS 15 
on my iphone se first generation. Thanks in advance for any help 

 

Anthony 

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No 5G? Your Verizon iPhone 13 May Need a New SIM Card

[Alan Lemly]

Following my signature, I'm pasting the text of the PC Magazine article
discussing connecting to 5G and the possible need for a new Verizon SIM card
with the iPhone 13 models. This article is by Sascha Segan and can be found
here:

 

https://www.pcmag.com/news/no-5g-your-verizon-iphone-13-may-need-a-new-sim-c
ard?utm_source=email

_campaign=whatsnewnow_medium=title

 

That link takes more than one line so unless Mark has this list set to force
html for all posts, it might be broken when distributed.

 

Alan Lemly

 


No 5G? Your Verizon iPhone 13 May Need a New SIM Card


Is your iPhone 13 not connecting to 5G UWB on Verizon? We have three
possible solutions for you.

  

By Sascha Segan   

Updated September 28, 2021 

 

The iPhone 13 is, for some people, their first Verizon 5G phone
 , so it's no wonder they
may want to take it into the fast lane. Unfortunately, I've been getting
reports through email and social media

over the past few days of Verizon users seeing no 5G
  at all.

There's nothing wrong with your phone, and it doesn't need a software
update. Using my own knowledge of Verizon's systems, I have three possible
solutions, and they all have to do with Verizon's network provisioning
system.

You probably just need to get a new SIM card.

 


A SIMple Plan


GSM carriers such as AT and T-Mobile have a longstanding culture of
knowing that their SIM cards may be put into random devices. Verizon comes
from a different culture where it assumes a tighter tie between device and
SIM card. So sometimes straight-up swapping SIMs between Verizon phones just
doesn't work.

This often has to do with various flags for various features in Verizon's
system. But the upshot of it all is that even if you have a 5G service plan,
a SIM that was in another device may not be entirely happy in your iPhone
13.

There's a solution for this. If you bought your phone with a Verizon SIM,
you need to activate the new physical SIM using Verizon's app or website,
use that one, and throw out the old one. If your phone didn't come with a
Verizon SIM, call Verizon to get a new SIM overnighted or to activate your
phone via eSIM  .

 


Double Feature


An ongoing Reddit thread

on the problem highlights another possible solution. Some people on the
thread have gotten their service to work by having Verizon support remove
every feature from their account on the old SIM, and then add all the
features one by one on the new SIM.


Recommended by Our Editors


 

5G on the iPhone 13 Has an Eye on the Future
  

 

Watch Out: With iPhone 13, There Are Now 5 Different iPhone Models by
Country
  

 

iPhone 13 Battery Tested: The Boost Is Real
  

 


New Phone, Who Dis?


Verizon's system relies on having a database of specific phone IDs marked as
"compatible." Occasionally, IDs for a few units can end up not in the
database. That leads the network to basically say "who the heck are you?"
and offer the device limited service. A quick search shows this having
happened with an iPhone 11 on Verizon
  and with an iPhone 12 on
Xfinity Mobile
 , which
is a Verizon wholesale client.

In that case, use this online tool
  to check to see if
your phone's IMEI number is in Verizon's database. Everyone agrees that US
iPhone 13 models
  are approved and certified by Verizon, so one
missing from the database is just a bug. If it's not in the database, that's
the problem. Call Verizon and explain the issue; reps will probably need to
file some forms to implement a fix.

 

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RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[Carolyn]

That is the number I used a couple of weeks back, when I called them. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

Richard did Apple change their accessibility number? I have it in my contacts, 
and I don’t use it very much. However, I’d like to use it when I need it and I 
don’t want to have to try to find another number. I have it as 877-204-3930. 
Just curious because the number you gave was so totally different. Thanks.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It will only charge faster if you pair it with at least a 20 Watt wall 
adapter. If you want to make sure you are future proof for years to come I 
would probably say get at least a USB-C wall adapter capable of 30 Watts or 
more.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: September 27, 2021 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

I agree with Richard re u calling apple for the answer.  However, having said 
that, yesterday, I heard a consumer report addressing the topic of whether the 
usb C lightening cable is really any faster than the standard ones apple use to 
include with their phones.  Both were tested and the usb c lightening cable 
actually did charge faster than the traditional one.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?

Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your phone 
or does it not really give you A faster charging time?

Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just not 
bother and save my money for something else?

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RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Carolyn]

Do you mean turn off then back on? Or not? And if not, what do I do to reboot, 
please? 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Have you rebooted your phone. I still experience the opposite at times, I have 
it set to lock after 1 minute and found that in previous versions of iOS, e.g. 
14, 13, it would sometimes not lock and I am pretty sure it is still doing that 
in iOS 15 as well. I can fix this by rebooting the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 27, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

 

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never, yet, now, it is 
locking on its own. 

 

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess! 

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7 little words version 7.0.12

[Dan]

  
  
I haven't been following all the posts
about this app so if this has been discussed just tell me and
I'll go away. ;)

  
I know version 7.0.11 had accessibility
issues, does anyone know if 7.0.12 has them too?  If so then I
definitely will not install.

  
Thanks.

  


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RE: screen record

[Richard Turner]

Anthony,
IF you hear Drag item, you are in edit mode and should press your home button 
or do the gesture to get to the home screen which cancels editing.

IN brief, if you just want to record the screen to demonstrate to someone what 
VoiceOver is doing, make sure the screen curtain is off.

Then, if you double tap Screen Recording you will hear a countdown, 3, 2, 1, 
then it starts recording.
When you double tap on screen recording again, it will stop screen recording.

If there isn't a more detailed walk-through on Applevis.com on how to use 
screen recording I will consider doing one.

That should get you started.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 4:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen record

Hi

I went in to the control center but I can't activate the screen recording 
unfortunately.
When I double tab on it, it says druggable. I can't find the recording controls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 September 2021 11:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen record

You turn it on and then everything you do is recorded until you go back to 
Control Centre and turn it off again. At that point the session you recorded is 
saved to Photos as a video you can share.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 28, 2021 12:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen record

Hi

Can someone explain to me how to use the screen record please? I'm using iOS 15 
on my iphone se first generation. Thanks in advance for any help

Anthony
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RE: calculator issue

[Richard Turner]

Anthony,
You are hitting the wrong button.  There is a plus/minus sign above the numbers 
on the calculator which I believe is used for formulas.
The layout of the Apple Calculator screen is starting from the top:
Result is the farthest toward the top of the screen.
Below that you will find a row with:
Clear (or it may say all clear) then to the right of it is the plus/minus, to 
the right of that is percent, to the right of that is divide.

The next row down is: 7, 8, 9. Multiply or times

The next row is: 4, 5, 6, Subtract or minus

The next row is: 1, 2, 3, Add or plus
The last row is: zero, decimal point, equals.

HTH,




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: calculator issue

Hi

By any chance, has anyone experienced a problem with the plus and minus sign of 
the calculator, because everytime I touch the plus sign both of them notify me  
plus and minus at the same time.
I'm not sure if this problem if it is an iOS 15 bug.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony
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Re: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[Anthony Vece]

Regina; 877-204-3930
Is the correct number. Be safe
Be careful

Sent from my 
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> On Sep 28, 2021, at 9:47 AM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Richard did Apple change their accessibility number? I have it in my 
> contacts, and I don’t use it very much. However, I’d like to use it when I 
> need it and I don’t want to have to try to find another number. I have it as 
> 877-204-3930. Just curious because the number you gave was so totally 
> different. Thanks.
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It will only charge faster if you pair it with at least a 20 Watt wall 
> adapter. If you want to make sure you are future proof for years to come I 
> would probably say get at least a USB-C wall adapter capable of 30 Watts or 
> more.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
> hevener
> Sent: September 27, 2021 4:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not
> 
> I agree with Richard re u calling apple for the answer.  However, having said 
> that, yesterday, I heard a consumer report addressing the topic of whether 
> the usb C lightening cable is really any faster than the standard ones apple 
> use to include with their phones.  Both were tested and the usb c lightening 
> cable actually did charge faster than the traditional one.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 6:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not
> 
> Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
> iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?
> 
> Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your 
> phone or does it not really give you A faster charging time?
> 
> Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just 
> not bother and save my money for something else?
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Re: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[regina alvarado]

Richard did Apple change their accessibility number? I have it in my contacts, 
and I don’t use it very much. However, I’d like to use it when I need it and I 
don’t want to have to try to find another number. I have it as 877-204-3930. 
Just curious because the number you gave was so totally different. Thanks.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It will only charge faster if you pair it with at least a 20 Watt wall 
adapter. If you want to make sure you are future proof for years to come I 
would probably say get at least a USB-C wall adapter capable of 30 Watts or 
more.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: September 27, 2021 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

I agree with Richard re u calling apple for the answer.  However, having said 
that, yesterday, I heard a consumer report addressing the topic of whether the 
usb C lightening cable is really any faster than the standard ones apple use to 
include with their phones.  Both were tested and the usb c lightening cable 
actually did charge faster than the traditional one.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?

Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your phone 
or does it not really give you A faster charging time?

Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just not 
bother and save my money for something else?

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Re: new mispronunciation in 14.8; is it fixed in 15?

[Kimberly]

I had no pronunciation problems with any of the examples using Samantha compact 
on an SE 2020. I am running iOS15. Also I am not experiencing any issues in the 
app switcher since updating. 


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> On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:29 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I just sent the below to apple accessibility.  Curious if any of you have 
> noticed it and if it’s fixed in IOS 15.
>  
> Since updating to IOS 14.8, I noticed a very strange mispronunciation.  I 
> first saw it with reading an email from Southwest  Airlines using VoiceOver. 
> Then I noticed it when reading a news story in Newsify where  the article 
> mentioned South Carolina. This happens using Samantha and Samantha Enhanced 
> and wit Siri #1 and Siri #4.  It did not occur when I switched to Alex. 
>  
> Examples:
> “South Carolina:   - If I read by word, it reads correctly.  If I read by 
> line or continuous reading, it just says something like “Saw ja tee” and 
> won’t even say “Carolina”.  If I ask Siri for the capital of S.C., she will 
> mispronounce “South” the same way, but will say “Carolina”. 
>  
> South Pacific:  VoiceOver will mispronounce “South” as above, but will 
> correctly say Pacific when reading by line or continuously
>  
> When I type “Southwest”,,   it is reading it correctly, but was not reading 
> it correctly on the header for my email from Southwest Airlines. It sounds 
> like it is saying “saw ja tee west”.
>  
> This could be fixed in IOS 15, but I haven’t upgraded yet, having heard about 
> a VoiceOver bug in the App switcher.
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RE: screen record

[Anthony Borg]

Hi 

 

I went in to the control center but I can’t activate the screen recording 
unfortunately. 

When I double tab on it, it says druggable. I can’t find the recording 
controls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 28 September 2021 11:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen record

 

You turn it on and then everything you do is recorded until you go back to 
Control Centre and turn it off again. At that point the session you recorded is 
saved to Photos as a video you can share.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 28, 2021 12:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: screen record

 

Hi 

 

Can someone explain to me how to use the screen record please? I’m using iOS 15 
on my iphone se first generation. Thanks in advance for any help 

 

Anthony 

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RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It will only charge faster if you pair it with at least a 20 Watt wall adapter. 
If you want to make sure you are future proof for years to come I would 
probably say get at least a USB-C wall adapter capable of 30 Watts or more.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: September 27, 2021 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

I agree with Richard re u calling apple for the answer.  However, having said 
that, yesterday, I heard a consumer report addressing the topic of whether the 
usb C lightening cable is really any faster than the standard ones apple use to 
include with their phones.  Both were tested and the usb c lightening cable 
actually did charge faster than the traditional one.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?

Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your phone 
or does it not really give you A faster charging time?

Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just not 
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RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Which iPhone do you have? Even the newest iPhone 13 series of phones only 
support fast charging at 15 Watts, the 65 Watt USB-C chargers are for newer 
laptops which support USB-C charging so while you can certainly use one for 
your iPhone, it certainly isn't necessary if that is all you use it for. Which 
model iPhone do you have?



Here is Apple's recommended charger which they sell via the Apple Store:



The Apple 20W USB‑C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office, or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB‑C-enabled device, Apple recommends pairing it with the iPad Pro and iPad 
Air for optimal charging performance. You can also pair it with iPhone 8 or 
later to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.

Charging cable sold separately.



Apple sells USB-C to Lightning cables in either 1 Metre or 2 Metre length, in 
Canada for $25 for the shorter and $39 for the longer, my guess is $19.99 and 
$29.99 in the US.

Of course you can get really good USB-C to Lightning cables which are MFI 
certified on Amazon for a lot less and the same applies to USB-C wall chargers.

The one I mentioned above from Apple also costs $25 Canadian so most likely 
$19.99 in the US and then of course there is the MagSafe charger for the iPhone 
12 family and above which costs $55 Canadian, maybe $39.99 US.



I just read the below article where they tested various chargers with the 
iPhone 13 Pro Max and the result was that it apparently can charge at just over 
9 Volts and almost 27 Watts which means if you had an iPhone 13 Pro Max you 
might want to get at least the Apple 30 Watt fast charger or something 
equivalent. For those who like it technical, here is the link to that article:



Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max charging power announced: there are surprises-Apple 
iPhone





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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: September 27, 2021 3:27 PM
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Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?



Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your phone 
or does it not really give you A faster charging time?



Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just not 
bother and save my money for something else?



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RE: An issue with Siri that hopefully will be fixed in an update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It will only get fixed if people report it so if you experience something which 
you think is a bug you have to report it and the easiest way to do this is via 
the email accessibil...@apple.com

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: September 27, 2021 4:13 PM
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Subject: An issue with Siri that hopefully will be fixed in an update

     Hi I have installed IOS 15 and now when I use Siri to tectat a text 
message.

And while I am dictating my message and A new text comes in while I am doing 
this I will have to redectat my message cause Siri is know longer listening.

This wasn't doing this in IOS 14.8 so has anyone else had this and hopefully it 
will be fixed in an IOS update.

I have turned Siri off and back on again with no luck.



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RE: Apple One

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here is the "Featured Snippet from the web result" when I did a Google search 
for "Will I get a refund for any remaining subscriptions if I sign up for Apple 
One?"



Apple says you will get an automated refund for the remaining months of Apple 
Arcade or Apple Music, after you sign in for Apple One with your Apple ID. The 
company also said when your Apple One trial ends and becomes a paid 
subscription, any duplicate services are canceled and you receive a pro-rated 
refund.



And here the full article from iPhone in Canada:



Apple Will Give Pro-Rated Refunds on Duplicate Services with Apple 
One





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: September 27, 2021 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple One



Thanks, Les. I know somewhere I saw a reference to how if you had a 
subscription to something and then you signed up for the all everything, it 
would be taken care of. I’m just not sure how it works. My music subscription 
runs out a couple of days from now. My husbands TV plus runs out a month or so 
from now, etc. So I guess I should try to call somewhere and Apple, it’s just 
that I never call anybody except Accessibility, since all my devices don’t have 
AppleCare plus anymore.

Mary





Sent from my iPhone



> On Sep 27, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Les Kriegler 
> mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> Hi again Mary

>

> I had another thought. You might want to ride to support and iTunes.com and 
> pose that question to them. Again, I would be confident that they would work 
> with you on this.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Mary Otten 
>> mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> I am sorry for that vague subject line. I am interested to know if anybody 
>> has experience in signing up for an Apple one bundle when you might be in 
>> the middle of a subscription which is included in that bundle. For instance, 
>> I have Apple Music, and my husband has Apple TV+. We are in a family sharing 
>> group. My music subscription is about to run out, and it is a yearly one, so 
>> if I pay for it in a couple of days I have it for a year. What happens if, 
>> after I’ve renewed that subscription, we decide to go for the Apple one 
>> premium or whatever it’s called, $30 a month that gets you everything, like 
>> Apple Arcade that I don’t care about, but that’s another matter. Do you just 
>> lose all the money you paid? I’ve tried to Google around and haven’t had 
>> much success. So, has anybody done this?

>>

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Dictation?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

May be Apple doing things, my recommendation would be to upgrade to iOS 15 
where all of this is done on device now and SIRI for requests as well as 
dictation is way more responsive in my opinion. Since I upgraded I never once 
had SIRI tell me "One moment please" while it was trying to process a simple 
request.
I should mention however that I think you need at least an iPhone X or XR for 
this, I don't think it works on the iPhone 8.

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:19 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Dictation?

Is there an issue with the servers for Dictation processing?  mine hasn't 
worked all day on anyof my devices.
Can browse and get mail, so not a connection issue.

But thisis so fundamental for getting messages done fairly quickly.

Thanks, RobH.

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RE: Problem With Siri

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why not just go to the Phone App, tap on the Recent Calls tab and then near the 
top you can select either "All" or "Missed". By default All is selected, double 
tap on Missed and all your missed calls are displayed. 

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Sent: September 27, 2021 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem With Siri

Hi everyone.

I have a friend in Australia who has been trying to get Siri to read him missed 
calls for a few days now, only to be told this service is unavailable right now 
and to try later. I have never used this feature myself, so I did not know it 
was possible, but he says he has used it often for a long time. He hasn't 
updated to IOS 15 yet, so we are not sure what the problem might be.

Any advice would be very very appreciated.

Thanks,

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RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you rebooted your phone. I still experience the opposite at times, I have 
it set to lock after 1 minute and found that in previous versions of iOS, e.g. 
14, 13, it would sometimes not lock and I am pretty sure it is still doing that 
in iOS 15 as well. I can fix this by rebooting the phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 27, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never, yet, now, it is 
locking on its own.

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess!
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RE: screen record

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You turn it on and then everything you do is recorded until you go back to 
Control Centre and turn it off again. At that point the session you recorded is 
saved to Photos as a video you can share.


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Sent: September 28, 2021 12:58 AM
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Hi

Can someone explain to me how to use the screen record please? I’m using iOS 15 
on my iphone se first generation. Thanks in advance for any help

Anthony
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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.
I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".
When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.
I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out.
Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too.
If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come 
in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. 
Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set 
to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help.
Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me.




Cristóbal

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have 
an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have 
no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed 
the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app 
you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover 
Settings > Motion


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not 
to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get 
the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday 
cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 
256GB.
(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link 
to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)

Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package 
would be delivered today, not Monday.

We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data 
transfer from her old 6S, so I 

calculator issue

[Anthony Borg]

Hi 

 

By any chance, has anyone experienced a problem with the plus and minus sign
of the calculator, because everytime I touch the plus sign both of them
notify me  plus and minus at the same time. 

I'm not sure if this problem if it is an iOS 15 bug. 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

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screen record

[Anthony Borg]

Hi 

 

Can someone explain to me how to use the screen record please? I'm using iOS
15 on my iphone se first generation. Thanks in advance for any help 

 

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Re: new Seven Little Words

[Janet Bell]

Hi Alison you can go to seven little words on line but you only et the 
first puzzle.  there is also a game you can download on your phone 
called Blindfold Seven Words which gives you seven clues and a whole 
load of letters to sort out that is the only one I can think off Take 
care and stay safe because you really don't want the virus.  I hope they 
fix the Braille as it is in a mess as well.  Janet


On 28/09/2021 07:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote:


Many thanks. I do miss doing the puzzle over a cup of tea in the 
morning. I don’t know of anything similar.


Alison

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RE: new Seven Little Words

[CJ & AA MAY]

Many thanks. I do miss doing the puzzle over a cup of tea in the morning. I 
don’t know of anything similar.

 

Alison

 

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Re: new Seven Little Words

[Janet Bell]

Hi Alison, I am inclined to agree with you there was nothing wrong with 
it in the first place.  will let you know if anything changes in it in 
the future.  Janet


On 28/09/2021 07:36, CJ & AA MAY wrote:


Hello Janet

Yes, I got a lit of the gestures but I still found using the app 
sluggish and unpredictable and then decided it really wasn’t worth all 
the agro and have deleted it.


Hopefully a more useable version will be restored and something 
similar be out there, but I just lost patience with it in the end.


Alison

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Janet Bell

*Sent:* 27 September 2021 10:40
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: new Seven Little Words

HI Alison did you get a list of the gestures you have to use if you 
want to use seven little words.  I can do it but I still can't get rid 
of that direct touch area either on my braille display or the phone 
itself.  let me know if you got the gestures if not I will send them 
to you.


On 25/09/2021 09:27, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

I’m giving up on it and have deleted the app. It is such a shame
as it kept me sane during lockdown but I am just finding it too
fiddly and frustrating to use as it is now.

If it reverts to being more useable, please let us know and I’ll
reload it.

Alison

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
  *On
Behalf Of *Debby
*Sent:* 22 September 2021 14:09
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: new Seven Little Words

Hi Janet,

Yes, a sighted person would need to go to setting, and check the
box for text to speech.

By the way, two friends and I did the same thing Because we didn’t
have working eyes available, we completely deleted the app from
our phones and then downloaded it again. That brought speech back.
If you have purchased any puzzle packs you will need to restore
those purchases.

Take care and stay Safe!

Debby

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Janet Bell
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:31 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: new Seven Little Words

thanks Alison I am not sure when someone will be here it may be
Sunday can you tell me what I ask them to do?  is it just to put
the text to speech back on?  Janet

On 22/09/2021 10:44, Alison May wrote:

Be my guest, Janet (smile!) But I know how frustrating it is
when you don't have a pair of eyes to hand to help with the
things that you just can't do yourself. He does have his uses!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may

0777 315 8181

On 22 Sep 2021, at 10:40 am, Janet Bell
  wrote:



HI Alison please may I borrow your husband as I haven't
got one of my own Janet

On 22/09/2021 10:28, Alison May wrote:

I did exactly the same but needed sighted assistance
to undo my mistake.

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may

0777 315 8181

On 22 Sep 2021, at 9:24 am, Janet Bell
 
wrote:



finally caught up with the update of 7 lettle
words but I accidentally switched off text to
speech so have no feedback whatsoever.  is there a
way to get some speech back please?  Janet

On 20/09/2021 19:36, Debby wrote:

Hi Alison,

Yes indeed this is definitely an update that
broke things. I wrote to Blue Ox Family Games,
the developer of 7 Little words, and below is
the response I received:

Hi Debby,
The latest version of 7 Little Words does use
a slightly different version of Voice Over
which allows us to extend this game across
both the iOS and Android platforms. As such,
there are some modifications and we realize we
have done a poor job of communicating them and
are rushing a build out to remedy this.

First off, here are the touch commands for
navigating the game board for each puzzle:

* swipe right and left to advance through the
screen elements as before, but now you can
swipe down and up to jump between the major
screen sections (back button, clues,

RE: new Seven Little Words

[CJ & AA MAY]

Hello Janet

Yes, I got a lit of the gestures but I still found using the app sluggish and 
unpredictable and then decided it really wasn’t worth all the agro and have 
deleted it. 

Hopefully a more useable version will be restored and something similar be out 
there, but I just lost patience with it in the end.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 27 September 2021 10:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words

 

HI Alison did you get a list of the gestures you have to use if you want to use 
seven little words.  I can do it but I still can't get rid of that direct touch 
area either on my braille display or the phone itself.  let me know if you got 
the gestures if not I will send them to you.

On 25/09/2021 09:27, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

I’m giving up on it and have deleted the app. It is such a shame as it kept me 
sane during lockdown but I am just finding it too fiddly and frustrating to use 
as it is now. 

If it reverts to being more useable, please let us know and I’ll reload it.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: 22 September 2021 14:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: new Seven Little Words

 

Hi Janet,

 

Yes, a sighted person would need to go to setting, and check the box for text 
to speech.

 

By the way, two friends and I did the same thing Because we didn’t have working 
eyes available, we completely deleted the app from our phones and then 
downloaded it again. That brought speech back. If you have purchased any puzzle 
packs you will need to restore those purchases.

 

Take care and stay Safe!

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words

 

thanks Alison I am not sure when someone will be here it may be Sunday can you 
tell me what I ask them to do?  is it just to put the text to speech back on?  
Janet

On 22/09/2021 10:44, Alison May wrote:

Be my guest, Janet (smile!) But I know how frustrating it is when you don't 
have a pair of eyes to hand to help with the things that you just can't do 
yourself. He does have his uses!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 

0777 315 8181

 

On 22 Sep 2021, at 10:40 am, Janet Bell   
 wrote:

 

HI Alison please may I borrow your husband as I haven't got one of my own Janet

On 22/09/2021 10:28, Alison May wrote:

I did exactly the same but needed sighted assistance to undo my mistake.

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 

0777 315 8181

 

On 22 Sep 2021, at 9:24 am, Janet Bell   
 wrote:

 

finally caught up with the update of 7 lettle words but I accidentally switched 
off text to speech so have no feedback whatsoever.  is there a way to get some 
speech back please?  Janet

On 20/09/2021 19:36, Debby wrote:

Hi Alison,

 

Yes indeed this is definitely an update that broke things. I wrote to Blue Ox 
Family Games, the developer of 7 Little words, and below is the response I 
received:

 

Hi Debby,
The latest version of 7 Little Words does use a slightly different version of 
Voice Over which allows us to extend this game across both the iOS and Android 
platforms. As such, there are some modifications and we realize we have done a 
poor job of communicating them and are rushing a build out to remedy this.

First off, here are the touch commands for navigating the game board for each 
puzzle:

* swipe right and left to advance through the screen elements as before, but 
now you can swipe down and up to jump between the major screen sections (back 
button, clues, answer/spelling, tiles)

* use a two finger tap to switch between reading by word or letter and two 
finger swipe to advance through each clue

* when you select a tile as part of an answer, you remain in the tile section, 
which should reduce the number of swipes you need

To note, the two-finger tap to switch the reading by word or letter will be 
switched to a three-finger tap in the next build as it sometimes caused 
confusion with the two-finger swipe.

We have hired a blind accessibility contractor to help us make it as accessible 
as possible but we greatly appreciate your feedback on how we can do this 
better. Your feedback on the click noise for each move is something I will get 
addressed in a forthcoming build, so that if you decide to turn off the "sound 
effects" in the game, it will turn off this clicking sound as you swipe through 
the board.

Please let us know if this is helpful and again appreciate any additional 
feedback you might have.

Eric

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On