date:20220913

Re: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Andy Baracco

I should have looked farther down the screen. I found the offer to upgrade to 
16 and have just started the process.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Baracco 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 4:42 PM
  Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

  Today I attempted to upgrade to IOS 16 but was offered 15.7. After updating 
to 15.7 I was told that my IOS is up to date.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: regina alvarado 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

You speak, as if eloquence is one voice. When I went into eloquence, it was 
a lot of different voices, including grandma and grandpa. I could not find any 
voice in there that was as clear as Tom or Samantha. Some other Siri voices are 
very good also. I was hoping that perhaps eloquence would have Paul. It’s been 
so long since I was on a Windows machine, and when I used jaws, there was a 
Paul. Maybe he’s another name now. None of them sound very good on the phone, 
though. I finally went back to Tom enhanced. Closest to Paul I can find. If 
anyone has any ideas on which eloquence  is good let me know. Thanks. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 13, 2022, at 4:28 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

I was really looking forward to using eloquence on my iPhone as it’s 
definitely my synth of choice on my PC but was honestly disappointed. It sounds 
like a much lower quality version than what I’m used to. I’m glad the choicer 
is there but I went back to either Alex or one of the Siri voices. I think they 
need an enhanced version of eloquence.  

Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
literophi...@myself.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Eloquence  rocks!

Best,

Leo Bado

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it. 
 It is the best voice out there.

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech 
speed can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I 
was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality 
voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
CHELA Robles

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

  I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the 
premium version!

  --

  Christopher (AKA CJ)

  Chaltain at Outlook

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM

  To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

  Subject: New voices iOS 16

  I personally like the following new voices.

  Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

2022-09-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain

If anything I think enhanced Ava is a tiny bit faster in IOS 16, but it may 
just be my imagination.

BTW, I’m sticking with Enhanced Ava. I just didn’t like the way Premium Ava 
pronounced a few words.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

I can only compare it to jaws and it sounds like it’s at 15% for me even at 50% 
rate which is weird on an iPhone 8 Plus. and this is for eloquence. Haven’t 
tried it with Alex yet.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Kevin Minor 
mailto:kmino...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi.

I was using Alex as my voice, but switched to Eloquence. In both cases, 50% 
sounded the same rate wise.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

Which voice are you using?

If anything, it seems like my usual 60 percent with Tom Enhanced and now with 
Jamie premium or enhanced, whatever it is, is a tiny bit faster.
I slowed them down to 55% and that seems closer to what I had before.  
Interesting.

iPhone 13 pro.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: 
https://www.turner42.com
礪

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

Hi.

I’m not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% 
speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably 
slower. I checked the rate, and it’s still at 50%. I increased it on the home 
screen to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I’m used to on my 
phone. I think it will work, so I’m not that worried about it. I guess I could 
make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in the end.

This is just information, and not really a complaint.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

People's ideas of what a clear voice is really depends on each person.
I for example have used Alex in the past and I think he sounds fine.
I think a lot of the voices on IOS 16 sound better then they did
before.  I've played around with some of the novelty voices and I can
understand most of them.  I think eloquence sounds just fine coming
from my phone and that is what I'm using for now.  I for one would
always use a higher quality voice and never those compact junky voices
that are so small in size.  That is one reason why I bought a phone
with one terabyte of space.  I don't have to worry about needing space
for a long time.

On 9/13/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Yes, I think many of the voices sound distorted. I like to get the clearest
> one I can find.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; manyofus1...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Novelty voices
>
> Shirley,
>
>
>
>
> First of all, thank you for making me laugh. I really appreciate that. I
> thought your reaction to the novelty voices was funny.
>
>
>
>
> However, I totally agree with you. I mean, I can understand, and can even
> appreciate people loving the novelty voices. If that is what you are used to
> dealing with, then I git it.
>
>
>
>
> But I will admit I don't fully understand why they need to be options on the
> iPhone. I mean, they don't sound all that clear. Some of them seem quite
> difficult to make out. They sound rather odd!
>
> Maybe if you are used to listening to your speech quite slow, then those
> voices sound better? I really don't know. But that is a guess.
>
>
>
>
> Right now, I am using one of the Serie voices as my main voice. It sounds
> pretty clear to me, and understandable. In the past, I have used Alex, and
> Samantha.
>
>
>
>
> I have to be careful with what I use though, because I feel that the voices
> are not clear enough, and can sound distorted. I am not quite sure what
> causes this to happen. But this is partly why I don't use Alex any longer.
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts on the voices. I appreciate
> hearing what you, and others here on the list have to say.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
>
> Terri
>
>
> On 9/13/2022 11:24 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com
>   wrote:
>
>
>   I just updated to IOS 16.
>
>   Why on earth did they include novelty voices?
>
>   They are awful! And so weird!
>
>   Who’ll even use them?
>
>   I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.
>
>   Shirley
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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Star Gazer

You may have to add Welsh as a language and 
pick the voice from there 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

For Welch, try Ivona Garet or Gwinith.

On 9/12/22, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> Hello Lana,
>
> I don’t know where you are in the world but I come from a town in 
> Wales called Tredegar.
>
> We have a dialect that some call Wenglish which is an amalgamation of 
> English and residual Welsh.
>
> It is not uncommon for someone to say something like:  “I’ll do it now 
> in a minute” while this makes no sense in a literal sense we know 
> exactly what is meant.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
>> On 13 Sep 2022, at 00:03, Lana  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I would love that. There are some novels with a Welsh and or 
>> Arthurian setting which cry for a Welsh reader. Then someone could 
>> pronounce some of those names properly.
>>
>> On 9/12/2022 4:36 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
>>>
>>> What about a voice with a Welsh dialect?  Here in the UK all nations 
>>> are provided for except Wales!
>>>
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>
 On 12 Sep 2022, at 23:13, CHELA Robles  wrote:

  Well, sometimes I like hearing the higher quality voices too, and 
 sometimes having Siri be my voice of Joyce. I like your voice three 
 American. when it comes to Siri, of course :-) it is great that 
 Apple took into consideration various options for several peoples 
 suggestions.
 It’s great to have more than one voice. Now I have to set up my 
 Apple Watch. It just booted up with watchOS 9. but oh, so many 
 voices to choose from I do like the Scottish voice I may from time to time 
 use it.
 but I do use the Irish voice in March. Why well you know when Saint 
 Paddy‘s day comes along I like to hear the Irish accent. I don’t 
 care for Moira much, but I do like the Siri Irish voices. I wish 
 they had a series, Scottish voice, or a set of male and female 
 Scottish Siri voices that be cool.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to 
> eSpeak when I was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I 
> deserve a nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was 
> when I wore a younger man’s clothes!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16
>
>
>
> Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some 
> of those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it 
> was kind of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good 
> news, voice singing your whole email message quite interesting. 
> Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, because then I can hear 
> it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my 
> windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you 
> were wondering.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the 
>> premium version!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM
>> To: ViPone list 
>> Subject: New voices iOS 16
>>
>>
>>
>> I personally like the following new voices.
>>
>> Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end 
>> of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we 
>> do” ~ John Ruskin
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Amy Ruell

Totally agree!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I was really looking forward to using eloquence on my iPhone as it’s definitely 
my synth of choice on my PC but was honestly disappointed. It sounds like a 
much lower quality version than what I’m used to. I’m glad the choicer is there 
but I went back to either Alex or one of the Siri voices. I think they need an 
enhanced version of eloquence.  

Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
literophi...@myself.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Eloquence  rocks!

Best,

Leo Bado

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it.  It 
is the best voice out there.

-Original Message-

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

-Original Message-

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain < 

chalt...@outlook.com  > wrote:

  I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
version!

  --

  Christopher (AKA CJ)

  Chaltain at Outlook

  From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  < 

viphone@googlegroups.com  > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM

  To: ViPone list < 

viphone@googlegroups.com  >

  Subject: New voices iOS 16

  I personally like the following new voices.

  Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

  Richard

  “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of

RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Star Gazer

Exactly. It 
sounded like s*** to be blunt about it 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I was really looking forward to using eloquence on my iPhone as it’s definitely 
my synth of choice on my PC but was honestly disappointed. It sounds like a 
much lower quality version than what I’m used to. I’m glad the choicer is there 
but I went back to either Alex or one of the Siri voices. I think they need an 
enhanced version of eloquence.  

Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
literophi...@myself.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Eloquence  rocks!

Best,

Leo Bado

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it.  It 
is the best voice out there.

-Original Message-

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

-Original Message-

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain < 

chalt...@outlook.com  > wrote:

  I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
version!

  --

  Christopher (AKA CJ)

  Chaltain at Outlook

  From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  < 

viphone@googlegroups.com  > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM

  To: ViPone list < 

viphone@googlegroups.com  >

  Subject: New voices iOS 16

  I personally like the following new voices.

  Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

That's what I'm doing, Seigard; it's on probation. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:07 PM
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Sounds interesting at first thought, but I am not sure if this is enabled that 
it might not be quite easy to accidently hang up on a call by pressing the side 
button. I might have to try this and see if it happens or not.

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Turner
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It works fine for me.

It is by default enabled.

Just in case, check:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.

>From the options, double tap Accessibility.

Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.

Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want 
the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on.

Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.

You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side 
button in and say hang up call.

Richard

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I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to 
set up it

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Sep 2022, at 6:48 am, Shai   > wrote:

> 

> Hello all,

> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r

> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call 

> when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.

> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I 

> made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off 

> under accessibility/touch.

> 

> 

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RE: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

Yes, I think many of the voices sound distorted. I like to get the clearest one 
I can find. 

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Subject: Re: Novelty voices

Shirley,

First of all, thank you for making me laugh. I really appreciate that. I 
thought your reaction to the novelty voices was funny.

However, I totally agree with you. I mean, I can understand, and can even 
appreciate people loving the novelty voices. If that is what you are used to 
dealing with, then I git it.

But I will admit I don't fully understand why they need to be options on the 
iPhone. I mean, they don't sound all that clear. Some of them seem quite 
difficult to make out. They sound rather odd!

Maybe if you are used to listening to your speech quite slow, then those voices 
sound better? I really don't know. But that is a guess.

Right now, I am using one of the Serie voices as my main voice. It sounds 
pretty clear to me, and understandable. In the past, I have used Alex, and 
Samantha.

I have to be careful with what I use though, because I feel that the voices are 
not clear enough, and can sound distorted. I am not quite sure what causes this 
to happen. But this is partly why I don't use Alex any longer.

Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts on the voices. I appreciate hearing 
what you, and others here on the list have to say.

Thank you,

Terri

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I just updated to IOS 16.

Why on earth did they include novelty voices?

They are awful! And so weird!

Who’ll even use them?

I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.

Shirley

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Re: New Siri sound

2022-09-13 Thread doug parisian

Well gentle readers, there seems a simple solution  to Siri sounds which 
could come from apple.


In the siri section, we need a choice between the old and new siri 
sounds. Seems to me that would address a wide variety of audio concerns



On 2022-09-13 9:40 a.m., Carolyn wrote:

I can't really hear it, but just have tried it to see how it worked, and I got 
questions answered.

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The new sound is very different. I just set up my new Iphone SE3.

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I don't care for the new sound to invoke Siri, as I have a hearing loss,
and the sound is too low to hear well, unless the volume is high.


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Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

that would seem correct if Zoom calls are handled the same as phone calls.
Perhaps a call to Apple or testing it while on a zoom call.





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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:21 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> So, if I'm on a Zoom call with my church, I can't lock the screen to save 
> battery, if I have Lock Screen to end calls on? 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 12:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16
> 
> It works fine for me.
> 
> It is by default enabled.
> 
> Just in case, check:
> 
> 
> 
> Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
> 
> From the options, double tap Accessibility.
> 
> Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.
> 
> Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want 
> the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on.
> 
> 
> 
> Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.
> 
> You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side 
> button in and say hang up call.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 礪
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
> Marzec
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16
> 
> 
> 
> I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how 
> to set up it
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>>> On 13 Sep 2022, at 6:48 am, Shai >>  > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> Hello all,
> 
>> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r
> 
>> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call 
> 
>> when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.
> 
>> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I 
> 
>> made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off 
> 
>> under accessibility/touch.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
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> 
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RE: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

Probably kids like Novelty Voices. 

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CHELA Robles
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Apparently, there are weird people out there that like those weird novelties it 
brings some sort of nos nostalgia or something. right now I’m using eloquence, 
but I have a habit of changing to other natural voices from time to time. I did 
try good news and it freaked me out a bit too. But I understood since it was 
all in English it was just singing to me. Anyway, how do you like Stephanie?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:24 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:

I just updated to IOS 16.

Why on earth did they include novelty voices?

They are awful! And so weird!

Who’ll even use them?

I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.

Shirley

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Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread Holly

Does this feature work on the SE 2020?  The side button would be the power 
button, and do you have to hold it for a second or two, or just a quick press?

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RE: What Is eSIM and Does My Carrier Support It? Take 2!

2022-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Tim Cook has been heading up Apple for a long time now and while you may not be 
excited about the iPhone 14, in general Apple is doing as well as they have 
ever done. Apple at times goes out on a limb which is what they are doing with 
e-SIM and they have done it with removing the 3.5mm headphone jack and it is 
something they do because they can and of course you will find that soon enough 
Samsung and other manufacturers will follow. E-SIM is the way of the future and 
Apple felt that it was time to give it a push so they did. 

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Subject: RE: What Is eSIM and Does My Carrier Support It? Take 2!

Hello Richard and thank you for posting this article.

I am seriously thinking about taking a short trek up to Canada to buy a 14 
model; I think I really want a SIM tray just in case I need to switch back to 
one of my beloved previous models.

I just don’t understand why Apple appears to be limiting / restricting its U.S. 
customers options.

If they are going to remove the SIM tray then remove them for all devices, 
otherwise people like me will go to other regions in order to get the model 
that offers the most compatibility.

This is just my opinion but in my heart, I think that, eventually, Tim Cook is 
going to run Apple into the ground; just for lack of innovation with regard to 
hardware.

iPhone has become passé; I have not been excited about a new release in years. 
In fact, if I am to be completely honest, I kind of have this feeling of dread 
just before a new model is announced for fear that they will either not 
introduce something that is standard on competitive devices or that they will, 
in their infinite wisdom, force users into an even more restrictive hardware 
form factor.

Again, this is just my opinion.

I can tell you that if I felt that Talk Back were as good as VoiceOver( which, 
in my opinion, it is not) I would probably stop using iPhone as my primary 
smart device, at this point in history.

Regardless, I do love iPad and iPad OS, Mac OS, Apple Watch, Apple TV, and the 
various Apple services so I will continue to stay in the Apple Orchard, for now.

Mark

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What Is eSIM and Does My Carrier Support It? Take 2!

What Is eSIM and Does My Carrier Support It?
Andrew Heinzman @andrew_andrew__ Sep 8, 2022, 5:20 pm EDT | 5 min read

We’re finally witnessing the death of physical SIM cards. The new iPhone 14 
requires eSIM for mobile networking, and it’s only a matter of time before 
other smartphones follow suit. Unfortunately, your carrier may not support eSIM 
yet.

What Is eSIM?

Almost every mobile phone made in the last 25 years relies on a SIM card for 
cellular service. This tiny piece of plastic is a “subscriber identity module.” 
It contains your phone number, but more importantly, it verifies that you are a 
carrier’s paying customer. Without a SIM card, you can’t make calls or connect 
to mobile networks.

The SIM standard has managed to survive over two decades, and for good 
reason—it’s dead simple. Anyone can take the SIM card out of their phone, stick 
it in a new device, and immediately transfer their cellular service. (Of 
course, many people never touch their SIM card and simply let their carrier’s 
salespeople do the work.)

But physical SIM cards areÂ technically outdated. We don’t need to stick pieces 
of plastic into our phones anymore, and for better or worse, we’ve reached a 
point where the idea of a physical SIM card confuses or intimidates many 
smartphone users.

An example of a physical SIM card. Mikhail Artamonov / Shutterstock.com The 
relatively new eSIM standard is a modern take on the “subscriber identity 
module.” Basically, phones with eSIM support can manage up to five “virtual SIM 
cards” simultaneously. All you need to do is activate one of these “virtual SIM 
cards” by installing an eSIM Profile from your carrier.

There isn’t a standardized process for installing these eSIM Profiles. But in 
most cases, you’ll download an app, scan a QR code, or visit your carrier’s 
website to get things set up. You may need to contact your carrier to complete 
this process, though some carriers support “eSIM Quick Transfer,” which lets 
you do everything yourself.

In theory, the eSIM standard should simplify things for both customers and 
carriers. Signing up for a new cellular provider will take just a few minutes, 
as you don’t need to go into a store or wait for a SIM card to arrive in the 
mail. And if you use multiple providers, you can switch between their networks 
without touching a physical SIM card.

But one of eSIM’s biggest hurdles, at least for early adopters, will be carrier 
support. Several carriers, especially those outside of the

Re: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Terri Stimmel

Hello Dennis, and list,

I don't care for it at all! I think it sounds just as muffled on my 
phone, as it does on my laptop. Maybe even more so, on my phone. It's 
not something I will use.

However, with that said, I am glad that it is an option for people who 
enjoy it, and would prefer to use it.

Thank you,

Terri

On 9/13/2022 2:07 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

I agree.

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*Subject:* RE: New voices iOS 16

Eloquence  rocks!

Best,

Leo Bado

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple 
included it.  It is the best voice out there.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
Of Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone 
speech speed can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan 
Enhanced. I can understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one 
for a while anyway.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak 
when I was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a 
nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a 
younger man’s clothes!

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
Of CHELA Robles

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of 
those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind 
of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice 
singing your whole email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched 
it to eloquence though, because then I can hear it at a much faster 
speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my windows, computer. I 
usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com 
> > wrote:

  I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the 
premium version!

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 > > 
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  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM

  To: ViPone list > >

  Subject: New voices iOS 16

  I personally like the following new voices.

  Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

  Richard

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RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Sounds interesting at first thought, but I am not sure if this is enabled that 
it might not be quite easy to accidently hang up on a call by pressing the side 
button. I might have to try this and see if it happens or not.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

It works fine for me.

It is by default enabled.

Just in case, check:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
>From the options, double tap Accessibility.
Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.

Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want 
the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on.

Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.

You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side 
button in and say hang up call.

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

礪

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
Marzec
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to 
set up it

Sent from my iPhone

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>

> Hello all,

> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r

> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call

> when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.

> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I

> made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off

> under accessibility/touch.

>

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RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

2022-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

You have to realize that many iPhone which get stolen and are locked with a 
passcode and Face Id/Touch Id are simply broken down for parts and shipped off 
to places like Asia, South America and so on where they then sell the 
batteries, screens and so on. Nobody who steels a locked iPhone can crack a 
well chosen 6-digit PIN by which I mean they may try 123456 or 11 or 112233 
and you'd be surprised that there are probably people who use such codes.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

That is what I think for the most part. Probably, somewhere, there is some 
rotten egg that could figure it out, but for the most part, scum who steal 
phones probably would not know what to do with it and would just pitch it. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 4:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

It would actually be interesting to see how a sighted thief who has know 
knowledge of voice over would handle it. They'd probably get freaked out by the 
voice and toss the phone away.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 12, 2022 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

But anybody who knows just a little and you can assume any thief knows probably 
more than that can just turn Voiceover off and bingo, no more screen curtain.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Why didn't she use her own phone?
My phone makes a sound when it unlocks, I have it set as one of the haptic 
options I'd be having a serious talk with your friend about boundaries, or I'd 
make sure I had stuff on the phone that would embarrass her. 
Really though, this is a boundary issue not a phone issue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.

Chris Judge


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Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.

Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.

Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she picked 
up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she wanted to 
make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, thinking it 
was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device by simply 
pointing it towards me.

It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  

I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up my 
phone?"  Wow!

I just don't like Face ID!

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out of 
our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock the 
phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 15sec. 
It would take most people half this time to realize what just happened & to 
react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be more secure.

Donna
 
> 
> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, 
> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch 
> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more 
> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having to 
> put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a feature 
> without it having to be all about their blindness or their unwillingness to 
> learn something new.
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face 
> ID, it was a

RE: be careful or . . .

2022-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I tried a few of them as well, definitely not something I would use, but they 
still understandable at least for me. Anyways, now you know so just ignore them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: be careful or . . .

Those nearly f**cked me yesterday, I clicked on 
them thinking I'd still get an understandable voice but no. I managed to scroll 
up and click on any voice, I don't know or care which one and got it to talk in 
a way I could understand. Those novelty voices need to just go away. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Curtis 
Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: be careful or . . .

  IN IOS16 which we downloaded, there is, below all the speech voices a heading 
 called "novelties."

Be careful, because these "novelties" completely  change or "novelize" 
the speech of the synthesizer they are making fun with and of.

There are ones which change the speech to the point of not understanding at all 
what is intended.

My wife accidentally activated "bells," which is a West Minster chime speaking 
but, she didn't know what happened.

and, forgot that if you have other languages in your rotor you can go to it and 
escape the nightmare of not knowing what is happening, what is being spoken and 
how to escape.

Remember one thing; you can audition the sound without activating it, or, for 
that matter listen to a voice without activating it either by flicking down on 
an item and one of the options is to "speak sample," 
which it would have done on the "bells" novelty except she activated it and for 
awhile we both were like in a country where the language and customs are 
completely not known in a condition where it was vital we knew what to do and 
how to act and could not. Like an actual nightmare. At first she was utterly 
lost and then she figured out that it was speaking, and then took some time to 
understand it for it was hard. My hearing is way below normal, but hers is 
extraordinarily excellent, however, the "bells" novelty was so different it 
took her some time to understand where she was and how to get back to some 
semblance of a speaking phone rather than one steeped in a belfry. First she 
couldn't understand enough to get anywhere or know from where to get to 
somewhere else, but after a while while we were both flummoxed, she understood 
enough to get words like "button," and others so she found the rotor and was 
then able to turn it to something other than at the time, her default language 
which was on "bells novelty," so wow, that was not fun.

There are definitely people in this world who have very little to do but . . . 
because some of those "novelties" are not fun at all.

Again, do remember to audition if you rely on your phone to speak to you to 
determine where you are, because you can get into a situation where your phone 
will not make sense, period.

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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread literophilus

Eloquence  rocks!

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it.  It 
is the best voice out there.

 

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From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

 

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From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

 

 

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From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

 

 

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

 

 

 

 

  On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain < 
 
chalt...@outlook.com  > wrote:

 

   

 

  I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
version!

 

  

 

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  From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  < 
 
viphone@googlegroups.com  > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM

  To: ViPone list < 
 
viphone@googlegroups.com  >

  Subject: New voices iOS 16

 

  

 

  I personally like the following new voices.

 

  Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  Richard

 

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Sonos fans: a new Sonos product to add to your system is ready for preorder

2022-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hello Sonos fans,

Sonos has just announced that the new Sub Mini is now available for pre-order 
with orders shipping in early October.
They call it the most requested product although based on what I read online a 
lot of people have been asking for a Sonos headset for a long time.
Anyways, here is the link, the Sub Mini sells for $549 Canadian and I think 
$429 US which is significantly less than the current Gen 3 Wireless Sub which 
goes for $949 Canadian or $749 US:

Sub Mini: The Compact Subwoofer with Big Bass | 
Sonos


Best regards,
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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread Terri Stimmel


Shirley,


First of all, thank you for making me laugh. I really appreciate that. I 
thought your reaction to the novelty voices was funny.



However, I totally agree with you. I mean, I can understand, and can 
even appreciate people loving the novelty voices. If that is what you 
are used to dealing with, then I git it.



But I will admit I don't fully understand why they need to be options on 
the iPhone. I mean, they don't sound all that clear. Some of them seem 
quite difficult to make out. They sound rather odd!


Maybe if you are used to listening to your speech quite slow, then those 
voices sound better? I really don't know. But that is a guess.



Right now, I am using one of the Serie voices as my main voice. It 
sounds pretty clear to me, and understandable. In the past, I have used 
Alex, and Samantha.



I have to be careful with what I use though, because I feel that the 
voices are not clear enough, and can sound distorted. I am not quite 
sure what causes this to happen. But this is partly why I don't use Alex 
any longer.



Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts on the voices. I appreciate 
hearing what you, and others here on the list have to say.



Thank you,


Terri

On 9/13/2022 11:24 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:


I just updated to IOS 16.

Why on earth did they include novelty voices?

They are awful! And so weird!

Who’ll even use them?

I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.

Shirley

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RE: iOS 15.7 and iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread davycuppens

Jessica you are right.

 

I have not yet updated to ios16 but as ios15.7 came up there was no, I say, no 
ios16 available for my phone, an iphone xr, no wit is available but I wait 
until the first bunch of bugs are fixed.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Jessica Miller
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 september 2022 1:11
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: iOS 15.7 and iOS 16

 

I saw the 15.7 update, but haven't seen 16 yet.  I imagine the servers are 
probably swamped, so I was going to wait a bit for them to calm down anyway.  
Hopefully the update will show up for me in the next few days.

At 04:14 PM 9/12/2022, you wrote:



Yes, that was the case last year. It was a new feature in one of the developer 
betas. You can skip iOS 15 entirely, and just install iOS 16. 




On Sep 12, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hello,
 
When I wanted to update to iOS 16 this morning I was surprised that when I 
checked under Settings > General > Software Update I was first presented with 
an iOS 15.7 update which mentioned security fixes.
I didn't even look further because if I had I would have seen that it then said 
that also available was iOS 16.
I can't remember if this was already the case with iOS 15 last year or if this 
is a new and less forceful approach by Apple to let people know the new version 
of iOS is available but to then let them decide if they want to download and 
install it. Anyways, I did the 15.7 update and then when I checked I saw the 
iOS 16 update which also downloaded and installed quickly and without fuss.
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 

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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread Brandon Misch

the novelty voices are basically there due to them being on the Mac at
some point. apple just decided to bring them to iOS since voices like
Fred were already there as well as voices like Ralph or jr. who were
also on the Mac first.

On 9/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> If you go to the Applevis site you'll see some podcasts with the new voice
> samples.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:34 AM, James English 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm kinda curious now, but my phone doesn't support ios 16. What are
>> the new options I'm missing out on?
>>
>>> On 9/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson 
 wrote:

 
 Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find them. Are they only
 available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?

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>
> I just updated to IOS 16.
>
> Why on earth did they include novelty voices?
>
> They are awful! And so weird!
>
> Who’ll even use them?
>
> I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.
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Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Feliciano Godoy

You should be able to use Siri to send audio messages with iOS16. I have been 
doing this since iOS15.

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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> When I listened to Jonathan Mosen's podcast he said you can now ask Siri to 
> make an audio message.  Don't know about that from my own experience since 
> I'm going to wait a bit to update to IOS 16.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> If they are movable, flicking up or down gets you to the option, move up, 
> etc., then double tap.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> How do you move these?  Do you tap on apps?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> I had to do one more step.
> I flicked up to remove, but when I was done, they were all still there.
> I went back and found that after removing them again, I found them in the 
> list after the word favorites, and then when flicking up, the option was 
> delete.
> That took care of it.
> 
> Other than Photos and Store, if you want more than just Audio there, you can 
> also move them up and down in the list to put the things you use most closer 
> to the beginning of the list.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hi all,
> If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
> recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter 
> by removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to 
> leave the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
> One. Open messages app.
> Two. Access one of your context conversations.
> Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
> Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
> Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have 
> in this section.
> 
> Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
> minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
> these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
> following the above steps.
> Hope that helps
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
>> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
>> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
>> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but 
>> this seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
>> 
>> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
>> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all 
>> the app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
>> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 礪
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
>> Marzec
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
>> 
>> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
>> audio button which

RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Paula Jordan

When I listened to Jonathan Mosen's podcast he said you can now ask Siri to 
make an audio message.  Don't know about that from my own experience since I'm 
going to wait a bit to update to IOS 16.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

If they are movable, flicking up or down gets you to the option, move up, etc., 
then double tap.

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

How do you move these?  Do you tap on apps?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

I had to do one more step.
I flicked up to remove, but when I was done, they were all still there.
I went back and found that after removing them again, I found them in the list 
after the word favorites, and then when flicking up, the option was delete.
That took care of it.

Other than Photos and Store, if you want more than just Audio there, you can 
also move them up and down in the list to put the things you use most closer to 
the beginning of the list.

HTH,

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hi all,
If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter by 
removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to leave 
the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
One. Open messages app.
Two. Access one of your context conversations.
Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have in 
this section.

Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
following the above steps.
Hope that helps
Feliciano
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this 
> seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
> 
> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the 
> app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
> Marzec
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
> possibility still exist?
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Re: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

2022-09-13 Thread CHELA Robles

I can only compare it to jaws and it sounds like it’s at 15% for me even at 50% rate which is weird on an iPhone 8 Plus. and this is for eloquence. Haven’t tried it with Alex yet.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Kevin Minor  wrote:







Hi.
 
I was using Alex as my voice, but switched to Eloquence. In both cases, 50% sounded the same rate wise.
 
Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?


 
Which voice are you using?
 
If anything, it seems like my usual 60 percent with Tom Enhanced and now with Jamie premium or enhanced, whatever it is, is a tiny bit faster.
I slowed them down to 55% and that seems closer to what I had before.  Interesting.
 
iPhone 13 pro.
 
 

 
Richard
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礪

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?


 
Hi.
 
I’m not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably slower. I checked the rate, and it’s still at 50%. I increased it on the home screen
 to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I’m used to on my phone. I think it will work, so I’m not that worried about it. I guess I could make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in the end.
 
This is just information, and not really a complaint.
 
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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

If they are movable, flicking up or down gets you to the option, move up, etc., 
then double tap.

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

How do you move these?  Do you tap on apps?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

I had to do one more step.
I flicked up to remove, but when I was done, they were all still there.
I went back and found that after removing them again, I found them in the list 
after the word favorites, and then when flicking up, the option was delete.
That took care of it.

Other than Photos and Store, if you want more than just Audio there, you can 
also move them up and down in the list to put the things you use most closer to 
the beginning of the list.

HTH,

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hi all,
If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter by 
removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to leave 
the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
One. Open messages app.
Two. Access one of your context conversations.
Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have in 
this section.

Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
following the above steps.
Hope that helps
Feliciano
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this 
> seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
> 
> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the 
> app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
> Marzec
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
> possibility still exist?
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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Dennis Long

How do you move these?  Do you tap on apps?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

I had to do one more step.
I flicked up to remove, but when I was done, they were all still there.
I went back and found that after removing them again, I found them in the list 
after the word favorites, and then when flicking up, the option was delete.
That took care of it.

Other than Photos and Store, if you want more than just Audio there, you can 
also move them up and down in the list to put the things you use most closer to 
the beginning of the list.

HTH,

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hi all,
If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter by 
removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to leave 
the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
One. Open messages app.
Two. Access one of your context conversations.
Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have in 
this section.

Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
following the above steps.
Hope that helps
Feliciano
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this 
> seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
> 
> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the 
> app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
> Marzec
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
> possibility still exist?
> 
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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

Yes. That is what I did too Richard. Deleted them from my favourites. All done 
now, no more annoying apps only the audio and photo ones.
Shirley

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 13 September 2022 18:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

I had to do one more step.
I flicked up to remove, but when I was done, they were all still there.
I went back and found that after removing them again, I found them in the list 
after the word favorites, and then when flicking up, the option was delete.
That took care of it.

Other than Photos and Store, if you want more than just Audio there, you can 
also move them up and down in the list to put the things you use most closer to 
the beginning of the list.

HTH,

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hi all,
If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter by 
removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to leave 
the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
One. Open messages app.
Two. Access one of your context conversations.
Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have in 
this section.

Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
following the above steps.
Hope that helps
Feliciano
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this 
> seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
> 
> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the 
> app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
> Marzec
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
> possibility still exist?
> 
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RE: I-Phone SE 2022

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

Yes…thank you Jera!

That is helpful!

shirley

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: 13 September 2022 18:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I-Phone SE 2022

 

Both models from the outside are exactly the same; the difference between them 
lies moreover in the internal aspects: while the 2020 has the chip and ram of 
an 11 (the Bionic 13A), the 2022 model has the inwards of the 13 with a 15 
Bionic chip. Hope this helps some.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 13 sep 2022, a la(s) 12:12 p.m., manyofus1...@gmail.com 
  escribió:



Can someone tell me the difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022?

I want to upgrade later on this year to the SE 2022.

What are the differences between it and the SE 2020?

Shirley

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RE: I-Phone SE 2022

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

Ok, thanks, Richard! Its good to know this info! I mainly want it for the home 
button, I like my home button.

Shirley

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 13 September 2022 18:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I-Phone SE 2022

 

The short answer is newer hardware, newer and faster processer, and maybe more 
important, it can use 5G.  

I don’t recall off hand the other differences but probably other memory options 
and maybe more color choices.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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manyofus1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I-Phone SE 2022

 

Can someone tell me the difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022?

I want to upgrade later on this year to the SE 2022.

What are the differences between it and the SE 2020?

Shirley

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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

I was able to fix the audio message problem without any issues. Your 
instructions were top notch!
shirley

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: 13 September 2022 18:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

You’re welcome. The new audio message location was annoying as I use it daily. 
However, it’s not that big of a deal anymore. Just a bit of an adjustment. 
Also, for the above instructions, don’t forget to activate done button after 
finishing.

Feliciano
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:07 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> This is really helpful! Thanks Feliciano!
> shirley
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: 13 September 2022 18:06
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hi all,
> If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
> recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter 
> by removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to 
> leave the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
> One. Open messages app.
> Two. Access one of your context conversations.
> Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
> Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
> Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have 
> in this section.
> 
> Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
> minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
> these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
> following the above steps.
> Hope that helps
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
>> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
>> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
>> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but 
>> this seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
>> 
>> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
>> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all 
>> the app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
>> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 礪
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
>> Marzec
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
>> 
>> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
>> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
>> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
>> possibility still exist?
>> 
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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

I had to do one more step.
I flicked up to remove, but when I was done, they were all still there.
I went back and found that after removing them again, I found them in the list 
after the word favorites, and then when flicking up, the option was delete.
That took care of it.

Other than Photos and Store, if you want more than just Audio there, you can 
also move them up and down in the list to put the things you use most closer to 
the beginning of the list.

HTH,

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hi all,
If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter by 
removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to leave 
the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
One. Open messages app.
Two. Access one of your context conversations.
Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have in 
this section.

Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
following the above steps.
Hope that helps
Feliciano
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this 
> seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
> 
> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the 
> app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
> possibility still exist?
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Re: I-Phone SE 2022

2022-09-13 Thread Gerardo Corripio

Both models from the outside are exactly the same; the difference between them lies moreover in the internal aspects: while the 2020 has the chip and ram of an 11 (the Bionic 13A), the 2022 model has the inwards of the 13 with a 15 Bionic chip. Hope this helps some.GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 13 sep 2022, a la(s) 12:12 p.m., manyofus1...@gmail.com escribió:Can someone tell me the difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022? I want to upgrade later on this year to the SE 2022.What are the differences between it and the SE 2020?Shirley



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Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Feliciano Godoy

You’re welcome. The new audio message location was annoying as I use it daily. 
However, it’s not that big of a deal anymore. Just a bit of an adjustment. 
Also, for the above instructions, don’t forget to activate done button after 
finishing.

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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:07 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> This is really helpful! Thanks Feliciano!
> shirley
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 13 September 2022 18:06
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hi all,
> If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
> recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter 
> by removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to 
> leave the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
> One. Open messages app.
> Two. Access one of your context conversations.
> Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
> Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
> Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have 
> in this section.
> 
> Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
> minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
> these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
> following the above steps.
> Hope that helps
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>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
>> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
>> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
>> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but 
>> this seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
>> 
>> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
>> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all 
>> the app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
>> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 礪
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
>> Marzec
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
>> 
>> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
>> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
>> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
>> possibility still exist?
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RE: I-Phone SE 2022

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

The short answer is newer hardware, newer and faster processer, and maybe more 
important, it can use 5G.  

I don’t recall off hand the other differences but probably other memory options 
and maybe more color choices.

 

 

 

 

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

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礪

 

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manyofus1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I-Phone SE 2022

 

Can someone tell me the difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022?

I want to upgrade later on this year to the SE 2022.

What are the differences between it and the SE 2020?

Shirley

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I-Phone SE 2022

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

Can someone tell me the difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022?

I want to upgrade later on this year to the SE 2022.

What are the differences between it and the SE 2020?

Shirley

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RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

2022-09-13 Thread Kevin Minor

Hi.

I was using Alex as my voice, but switched to Eloquence. In both cases, 50% 
sounded the same rate wise.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

Which voice are you using?

If anything, it seems like my usual 60 percent with Tom Enhanced and now with 
Jamie premium or enhanced, whatever it is, is a tiny bit faster.
I slowed them down to 55% and that seems closer to what I had before.  
Interesting.

iPhone 13 pro.



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礪

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Hi.

I’m not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% 
speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably 
slower. I checked the rate, and it’s still at 50%. I increased it on the home 
screen to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I’m used to on my 
phone. I think it will work, so I’m not that worried about it. I guess I could 
make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in the end.

This is just information, and not really a complaint.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

This is really helpful! Thanks Feliciano!
shirley

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: 13 September 2022 18:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hi all,
If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter by 
removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to leave 
the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
One. Open messages app.
Two. Access one of your context conversations.
Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have in 
this section.

Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
following the above steps.
Hope that helps
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this 
> seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
> 
> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the 
> app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
> Marzec
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage
> 
> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
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RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

Which voice are you using?

 

If anything, it seems like my usual 60 percent with Tom Enhanced and now with 
Jamie premium or enhanced, whatever it is, is a tiny bit faster.

I slowed them down to 55% and that seems closer to what I had before.  
Interesting.

 

iPhone 13 pro.

 

 

 

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

 

Hi.

 

I’m not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% 
speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably 
slower. I checked the rate, and it’s still at 50%. I increased it on the home 
screen to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I’m used to on my 
phone. I think it will work, so I’m not that worried about it. I guess I could 
make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in the end.

 

This is just information, and not really a complaint.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Feliciano Godoy

Hi all,
If you are one that uses the audio message feature daily, I would highly 
recommend that you manage the messaging apps. You can remove all the clutter by 
removing the apps that you don’t need and then it won’t be a big deal to leave 
the apps expanded. Follow these instructions to remove apps:
One. Open messages app.
Two. Access one of your context conversations.
Three. Expand apps, if it’s not already.
Four. Scroll through all the apps, until you find more and activate it.
Five. Here, you can swipe up and delete the apps that you don’t need to have in 
this section.

Note: you cannot delete photos and store, but you can remove the rest to 
minimize clutter. This will not delete apps from your phone, simply removes 
these messaging appS from being in the way. You can always add them later by 
following the above steps.
Hope that helps
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> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra 
> buttons for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons 
> because they are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio 
> message.  Kind of annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this 
> seems like an extra step that shouldn't be needed.
> 
> If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps 
> icon and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the 
> app icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
> Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Marzec
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
> audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
> and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this 
> possibility still exist?
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Re: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

2022-09-13 Thread Brandon A. Olivares

Ha, I'm actually the opposite: I thought it got faster.

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
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> Hi.
>  
> I’m not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% 
> speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably 
> slower. I checked the rate, and it’s still at 50%. I increased it on the home 
> screen to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I’m used to on my 
> phone. I think it will work, so I’m not that worried about it. I guess I 
> could make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in 
> the end.
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> This is just information, and not really a complaint.
>  
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Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

2022-09-13 Thread Kevin Minor

Hi.

I'm not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% 
speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably 
slower. I checked the rate, and it's still at 50%. I increased it on the home 
screen to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I'm used to on my 
phone. I think it will work, so I'm not that worried about it. I guess I could 
make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in the end.

This is just information, and not really a complaint.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

Thanks for this tip, Richard!
I did wonder where the audio recording button had gone!
Shirley

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 13 September 2022 17:43
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra buttons 
for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons because they 
are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio message.  Kind of 
annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this seems like an extra 
step that shouldn't be needed.

If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps icon 
and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the app 
icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.

Richard
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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

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Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this possibility 
still exist?

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RE: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

The Record button, now just called Audio, is buried in with the extra buttons 
for photos, store, etc.  If like me, you had hidden those buttons because they 
are distracting, you will have to unhide them to do an audio message.  Kind of 
annoying, though I never send audio text messages, but this seems like an extra 
step that shouldn't be needed.

If you have the Apps hidden, flick left from the message text to the Apps icon 
and triple tap.  Now, below the text and before the keyboard are all the app 
icons.  Audio for me is I think the third one.
Triple tap that apps button again to hide all that clutter.



Richard
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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

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Subject: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
and now in this place we’ve got dictate button Do you know if this possibility 
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Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread CHELA Robles

Not to be extremely nitpicky, but the one bug I’ve seen since iOS 14 at least maybe a little longer but anyway I see every time I’m in an email message, when there is no more text on the line, voiceover reads it as if it were her actions menu, and it says, swipe up or down to select a customer shin and double tap to activate it. I kinda wish that would go away. anyway, I’m using an iPhone 8 plus.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:38 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:That is a neat thing you can do to end a call!shirley From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: 13 September 2022 17:37To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16 It works fine for me.It is by default enabled.Just in case, check: Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.From the options, double tap Accessibility.Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on. Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side button in and say hang up call. Richard“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com礪 -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal MarzecSent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16 I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to set up it Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Sep 2022, at 6:48 am, Shai  wrote:> > Hello all,> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call > when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I > made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off > under accessibility/touch.> > > --> Shai Wolman> Wolman Assistive> (619)894-6587> An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults!> To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at > wolmanassistive.com> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAL%2BOAfbp5nF1M1OU-no3u5W1x8KppiqjFb4BRs-M3_65NwccvQ%40mail.gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1FD05FA2-EF80-48F1-8759-35B5AD2CB922%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

That is a neat thing you can do to end a call!

shirley

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 13 September 2022 17:37
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

It works fine for me.

It is by default enabled.

Just in case, check:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.

>From the options, double tap Accessibility.

Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.

Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want 
the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on.

Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.

You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side 
button in and say hang up call.

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to 
set up it

Sent from my iPhone

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> shai...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> Hello all,

> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r

> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call 

> when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.

> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I 

> made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off 

> under accessibility/touch.

> 

> 

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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread CHELA Robles

If you go to the Applevis site you'll see some podcasts with the new voice 
samples.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:34 AM, James English  wrote:
> 
> I'm kinda curious now, but my phone doesn't support ios 16. What are
> the new options I'm missing out on?
> 
>> On 9/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find them. Are they only
>>> available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?
>>> 
 
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 From: manyofus1...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:24 AM
 Subject: Novelty voices
 
 I just updated to IOS 16.
 
 Why on earth did they include novelty voices?
 
 They are awful! And so weird!
 
 Who’ll even use them?
 
 I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.
 
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RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

It works fine for me.

It is by default enabled.

Just in case, check:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.

>From the options, double tap Accessibility.

Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.

Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want 
the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on.

Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.

You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side 
button in and say hang up call.

Richard

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Marzec
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Subject: Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to 
set up it

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> Hello all,

> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r

> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call 

> when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.

> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I 

> made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off 

> under accessibility/touch.

> 

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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread Julie Dawson

Malcolm Parfaitt mentioned them. I don't know if they are only available on the 
apple watch.
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  From: CHELA Robles 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Novelty voices

  I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.

  Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson  
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Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find them. Are they only 
available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?

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  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:24 AM
  Subject: Novelty voices

  I just updated to IOS 16.

  Why on earth did they include novelty voices?

  They are awful! And so weird!

  Who’ll even use them?

  I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.

  Shirley

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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread James English

I'm kinda curious now, but my phone doesn't support ios 16. What are
the new options I'm missing out on?

On 9/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find them. Are they only
>> available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?
>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
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>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:24 AM
>>> Subject: Novelty voices
>>>
>>> I just updated to IOS 16.
>>>
>>> Why on earth did they include novelty voices?
>>>
>>> They are awful! And so weird!
>>>
>>> Who’ll even use them?
>>>
>>> I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.
>>>
>>> Shirley
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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread CHELA Robles

I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson  wrote:






Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find 
them. Are they only available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?
 

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  manyofus1...@gmail.com 
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: Novelty voices
  
  
  I just updated to IOS 
  16.
  Why on earth did they include novelty 
  voices?
  They are awful! And so 
  weird!
  Who’ll even use 
them?
  I am using the UK voice, stephanie right 
  now.
  Shirley
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RE: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

I like her. She’s very clear. I am only using the regular stephanie voice, not 
the enhanced one. I don’t like the enhanced voices.

Shirley

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: 13 September 2022 17:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Novelty voices

 

Apparently, there are weird people out there that like those weird novelties it 
brings some sort of nos nostalgia or something. right now I’m using eloquence, 
but I have a habit of changing to other natural voices from time to time. I did 
try good news and it freaked me out a bit too. But I understood since it was 
all in English it was just singing to me. Anyway, how do you like Stephanie?

Sent from my iPhone





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I just updated to IOS 16.

Why on earth did they include novelty voices?

They are awful! And so weird!

Who’ll even use them?

I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.

Shirley

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Re: App switcher issue in IOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread CHELA Robles

I am getting an interesting thing where when I swipe up with three fingers to 
close the app, the context menu to add a widget so I pretty much just press the 
home button to get out of that on my iPhone 8 Plus. I hope they do get this 
fixed in an upcoming version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm not having much trouble closing apps either.  If you listen for
> the word active after the app you want to close, this usually works
> for me.
> 
>> On 9/13/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I have no trouble finding the apps in the app switcher.  Check kind of in
>> the center of the screen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
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>> 
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>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 5:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: App switcher issue in IOS 16
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For me, the apps in the app switcher seem to be in a smaller area.
>> 
>> I haven’t taken the time to isolate that yet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread Julie Dawson

Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find them. Are they only 
available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?

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  Subject: Novelty voices

  I just updated to IOS 16.

  Why on earth did they include novelty voices?

  They are awful! And so weird!

  Who’ll even use them?

  I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.

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Re: Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread CHELA Robles

Apparently, there are weird people out there that like those weird novelties it brings some sort of nos nostalgia or something. right now I’m using eloquence, but I have a habit of changing to other natural voices from time to time. I did try good news and it freaked me out a bit too. But I understood since it was all in English it was just singing to me. Anyway, how do you like Stephanie?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:24 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:I just updated to IOS 16.Why on earth did they include novelty voices?They are awful! And so weird!Who’ll even use them?I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.Shirley



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Novelty voices

2022-09-13 Thread manyofus1980

I just updated to IOS 16.

Why on earth did they include novelty voices?

They are awful! And so weird!

Who'll even use them?

I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.

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Re: App switcher issue in IOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I'm not having much trouble closing apps either.  If you listen for
the word active after the app you want to close, this usually works
for me.

On 9/13/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I have no trouble finding the apps in the app switcher.  Check kind of in
> the center of the screen.
>
>
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>
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>
>
> Richard
>
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
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>
>
> For me, the apps in the app switcher seem to be in a smaller area.
>
> I haven’t taken the time to isolate that yet.
>
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>
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> Richard
>
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>
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Re: New Siri sound

2022-09-13 Thread CHELA Robles

I really like the new sounds for dictation microphone and Siri.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 7:40 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I can't really hear it, but just have tried it to see how it worked, and I 
> got questions answered. 
> 
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> The new sound is very different. I just set up my new Iphone SE3.
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> 
> 
>> I don't care for the new sound to invoke Siri, as I have a hearing loss, 
>> and the sound is too low to hear well, unless the volume is high.
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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Noe Villeda

I like a lot of the new voices in I O S 16.

What I can't figure out is, how do I clear apps from the home screen?  It says, 
spotlight search and it shows apps that I've recently opened.  I thought there 
was a way to clear that or to set it so they don't show up on page 1.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Oh yes, good that it is included for those who choose it. 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it.  It 
is the best voice out there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

 

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM
To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: New voices iOS 16

 

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

Oh yes, good that it is included for those who choose it. 

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If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it.  It 
is the best voice out there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

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I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM
To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: New voices iOS 16

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

Richard

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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

I find no Welsh voices at all.

Evan is American male.

Did someone say there were Welsh voices?
 



Richard
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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Are the Welsh voices only for the watch? I only found Fiona for Scotland and 
Maura for Ireland. Thank you.
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16


I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16



Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my 
computer if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:



I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
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Subject: New voices iOS 16



I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.













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RE: App switcher issue in IOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

I have no trouble finding the apps in the app switcher.  Check kind of in the 
center of the screen.

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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For me, the apps in the app switcher seem to be in a smaller area.

I haven’t taken the time to isolate that yet.

 

 

 

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Subject: App switcher issue in IOS 16

 

Hi everyone,

 

I thought I read about a bug in IOS 16 with the app switcher, and after 
upgrading to the OS last night, I am experiencing an issue where I cant see the 
apps in the app switcher. Do I recall correctly that this is a known issue?

 

Thanks,

Joe

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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

It is on the Victor Stream's podcast choices. 

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Star Gazer
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Here can I find his podcasts? 

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Subject: Re: Scheduling email

Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone, I’ve got just a quick question do you know where can I find 
> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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Re: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Julie Dawson

Are the Welsh voices only for the watch? I only found Fiona for Scotland and 
Maura for Ireland. Thank you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech 
speed can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I 
can understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.

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Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I 
was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality 
voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s 
clothes!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my 
computer if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain  > wrote:

I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
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Subject: New voices iOS 16

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

Richard

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RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

That is what I think for the most part. Probably, somewhere, there is some 
rotten egg that could figure it out, but for the most part, scum who steal 
phones probably would not know what to do with it and would just pitch it. 

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It would actually be interesting to see how a sighted thief who has know 
knowledge of voice over would handle it. They'd probably get freaked out by the 
voice and toss the phone away.

Chris Judge

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Weitzel
Sent: September 12, 2022 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

But anybody who knows just a little and you can assume any thief knows probably 
more than that can just turn Voiceover off and bingo, no more screen curtain.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Why didn't she use her own phone?
My phone makes a sound when it unlocks, I have it set as one of the haptic 
options I'd be having a serious talk with your friend about boundaries, or I'd 
make sure I had stuff on the phone that would embarrass her. 
Really though, this is a boundary issue not a phone issue. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.

Chris Judge

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To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
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You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.

Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.

Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she picked 
up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she wanted to 
make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, thinking it 
was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device by simply 
pointing it towards me.

It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  

I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up my 
phone?"  Wow!

I just don't like Face ID!

Mark

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Casteen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out of 
our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock the 
phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 15sec. 
It would take most people half this time to realize what just happened & to 
react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be more secure.

Donna

> 
> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, 
> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch 
> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more 
> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having to 
> put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a feature 
> without it having to be all about their blindness or their unwillingness to 
> learn something new.
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face 
> ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and 
> Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. 
> And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the 
> 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they think 
> it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, but so do 
> those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or down from the 
> top. Try it. Put your toe in the water, and you’ll find out it’s not that big 
> of a deal.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Dennis and Everyone,

RE: Side Button Doesn't bring Up Siri After Update to iOS16?

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

Have you tried asking Siri a question, even though you did not hear the signal? 
I have, and it worked. I have hearing deficit, and do not hear the Siri sound 
well; bet they'll fix that eventually. 

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Hi, Group.

In my iPhone12, Side-Button doesn’t evoke Siri since I have updated to iOS16, 
what should I do?

Thanks!

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RE: New Siri sound

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

I can't really hear it, but just have tried it to see how it worked, and I got 
questions answered. 

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The new sound is very different. I just set up my new Iphone SE3.

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Subject: New Siri sound


>I don't care for the new sound to invoke Siri, as I have a hearing loss, 
>and the sound is too low to hear well, unless the volume is high.
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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Dennis Long

I agree.  Even if you don't use a feature the more that report it will push it 
up the priority list for a quicker fix.

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That was my finding as well, and I do think writing Apple Accessibility about 
it will help get it implemented in an early 16.01 or something.

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It is worth noting Jonathan said the time picker is not currently VO accessible 
I suspect this will be fixed in a upcoming release.

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Chaffin
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling email

Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

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RE: iOS 15.7 and iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

I didn't even see 15.7, would have skipped it, if I did.l 

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Jessica Miller
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I saw the 15.7 update, but haven't seen 16 yet.  I imagine the servers are 
probably swamped, so I was going to wait a bit for them to calm down anyway.  
Hopefully the update will show up for me in the next few days.

At 04:14 PM 9/12/2022, you wrote:

Yes, that was the case last year. It was a new feature in one of the 
developer betas. You can skip iOS 15 entirely, and just install iOS 16. 

On Sep 12, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hello,

When I wanted to update to iOS 16 this morning I was surprised 
that when I checked under Settings > General > Software Update I was first 
presented with an iOS 15.7 update which mentioned security fixes.
I didn't even look further because if I had I would have seen 
that it then said that also available was iOS 16.
I can't remember if this was already the case with iOS 15 last 
year or if this is a new and less forceful approach by Apple to let people know 
the new version of iOS is available but to then let them decide if they want to 
download and install it. Anyways, I did the 15.7 update and then when I checked 
I saw the iOS 16 update which also downloaded and installed quickly and without 
fuss.

Best regards,
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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Dennis Long

If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it.  It 
is the best voice out there.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

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Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
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Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
version!

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Subject: New voices iOS 16

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
version!

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Richard Turner
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To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: New voices iOS 16

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

Richard

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Re: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Rafał Marzec

Okay triple tap on send button is working, however I think it’s not fully 
accessible because it was impossible to choose the time of sending a message
I was able to choose the day and month, but the time wasn’t accessible

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Sep 2022, at 3:20 pm, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Any podcast client search for mosen at large
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Gazer
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> 
> Here can I find his podcasts? 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> 
> Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of 
> ios 16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.
> 
> After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, 
> you can then choose when you want to send the email.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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>> Hello everyone, I’ve got just a quick question do you know where can I find 
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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

That was my finding as well, and I do think writing Apple Accessibility about 
it will help get it implemented in an early 16.01 or something.

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Scheduling email

It is worth noting Jonathan said the time picker is not currently VO accessible 
I suspect this will be fixed in a upcoming release.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling email

Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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RE: New voices iOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Carolyn

I got Evan Enhanced, think I'm going to like that voice. 

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Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
 wrote:

I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
version!

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Subject: New voices iOS 16

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

Richard

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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Dennis Long

It is worth noting Jonathan said the time picker is not currently VO accessible 
I suspect this will be fixed in a upcoming release.

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Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Dennis Long

Any podcast client search for mosen at large

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Subject: RE: Scheduling email

Here can I find his podcasts? 

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Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling email

Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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RE: be careful or . . .

2022-09-13 Thread Dennis Long

Common sense needs to apply here.  I wouldn't use them long term and I wouldn't 
exit out of the area until I knew I could understand it.Ther is a speak 
sample button.  Use that.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: be careful or . . .

Those nearly f**cked me yesterday, I clicked on 
them thinking I'd still get an understandable voice but no. I managed to scroll 
up and click on any voice, I don't know or care which one and got it to talk in 
a way I could understand. Those novelty voices need to just go away. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Curtis 
Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: be careful or . . .

  IN IOS16 which we downloaded, there is, below all the speech voices a heading 
 called "novelties."

Be careful, because these "novelties" completely  change or "novelize" 
the speech of the synthesizer they are making fun with and of.

There are ones which change the speech to the point of not understanding at all 
what is intended.

My wife accidentally activated "bells," which is a West Minster chime speaking 
but, she didn't know what happened.

and, forgot that if you have other languages in your rotor you can go to it and 
escape the nightmare of not knowing what is happening, what is being spoken and 
how to escape.

Remember one thing; you can audition the sound without activating it, or, for 
that matter listen to a voice without activating it either by flicking down on 
an item and one of the options is to "speak sample," 
which it would have done on the "bells" novelty except she activated it and for 
awhile we both were like in a country where the language and customs are 
completely not known in a condition where it was vital we knew what to do and 
how to act and could not. Like an actual nightmare. At first she was utterly 
lost and then she figured out that it was speaking, and then took some time to 
understand it for it was hard. My hearing is way below normal, but hers is 
extraordinarily excellent, however, the "bells" novelty was so different it 
took her some time to understand where she was and how to get back to some 
semblance of a speaking phone rather than one steeped in a belfry. First she 
couldn't understand enough to get anywhere or know from where to get to 
somewhere else, but after a while while we were both flummoxed, she understood 
enough to get words like "button," and others so she found the rotor and was 
then able to turn it to something other than at the time, her default language 
which was on "bells novelty," so wow, that was not fun.

There are definitely people in this world who have very little to do but . . . 
because some of those "novelties" are not fun at all.

Again, do remember to audition if you rely on your phone to speak to you to 
determine where you are, because you can get into a situation where your phone 
will not make sense, period.

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Re: be careful or . . .

2022-09-13 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I don't mind the novelty voices.  I wouldn't use a lot of them, but
having your phone kind of sing at you is kind of fun at least briefly.

On 9/13/22, Star Gazer  wrote:
>   Those nearly f**cked me yesterday, I clicked on 
> them thinking I'd still
> get an understandable voice but no. I managed to scroll up and click on any
> voice, I don't know or care which one and got it to talk in a way I could
> understand. Those novelty voices need to just go away.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Curtis Delzer
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: be careful or . . .
>
>   IN IOS16 which we downloaded, there is, below all the speech voices a
> heading  called "novelties."
>
> Be careful, because these "novelties" completely  change or "novelize"
> the speech of the synthesizer they are making fun with and of.
>
> There are ones which change the speech to the point of not understanding at
> all what is intended.
>
> My wife accidentally activated "bells," which is a West Minster chime
> speaking but, she didn't know what happened.
>
> and, forgot that if you have other languages in your rotor you can go to it
> and escape the nightmare of not knowing what is happening, what is being
> spoken and how to escape.
>
> Remember one thing; you can audition the sound without activating it, or,
> for that matter listen to a voice without activating it either by flicking
> down on an item and one of the options is to "speak sample,"
> which it would have done on the "bells" novelty except she activated it and
> for awhile we both were like in a country where the language and customs are
> completely not known in a condition where it was vital we knew what to do
> and how to act and could not. Like an actual nightmare. At first she was
> utterly lost and then she figured out that it was speaking, and then took
> some time to understand it for it was hard. My hearing is way below normal,
> but hers is extraordinarily excellent, however, the "bells" novelty was so
> different it took her some time to understand where she was and how to get
> back to some semblance of a speaking phone rather than one steeped in a
> belfry. First she couldn't understand enough to get anywhere or know from
> where to get to somewhere else, but after a while while we were both
> flummoxed, she understood enough to get words like "button," and others so
> she found the rotor and was then able to turn it to something other than at
> the time, her default language which was on "bells novelty," so wow, that
> was not fun.
>
> There are definitely people in this world who have very little to do but . .
> . because some of those "novelties" are not fun at all.
>
> Again, do remember to audition if you rely on your phone to speak to you to
> determine where you are, because you can get into a situation where your
> phone will not make sense, period.
>
>
> --
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> H.S.
> K6VFO
>   Rialto, CA
> cur...@calweb.com
>
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RE: App switcher issue in IOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

For me, the apps in the app switcher seem to be in a smaller area.

I haven’t taken the time to isolate that yet.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

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礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joediner...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App switcher issue in IOS 16

 

Hi everyone,

 

I thought I read about a bug in IOS 16 with the app switcher, and after 
upgrading to the OS last night, I am experiencing an issue where I cant see the 
apps in the app switcher. Do I recall correctly that this is a known issue?

 

Thanks,

Joe

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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Richard Turner

You triple tap on the Send button, then you get the choices, send at 9PM, 8AM 
tomorrow, or Send Later.
If you are not using VoiceOver, the Send Later option has a time picker.  I 
could not get it to work with VoiceOver but my wife could do it without 
VoiceOver running.
I wrote Apple Accessibility about this yesterday.  

Richard
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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 5:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Scheduling email

Where on the email do you do a double tap and hold or 
triple tap? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling email

Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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> Hello everyone, I’ve got just a quick question do you know where can I find 
> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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RE: be careful or . . .

2022-09-13 Thread Star Gazer

Those nearly f**cked me yesterday, I clicked on 
them thinking I'd still get an understandable voice but no. I managed to scroll 
up and click on any voice, I don't know or care which one and got it to talk in 
a way I could understand. Those novelty voices need to just go away. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Curtis 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: be careful or . . .

  IN IOS16 which we downloaded, there is, below all the speech voices a heading 
 called "novelties."

Be careful, because these "novelties" completely  change or "novelize" 
the speech of the synthesizer they are making fun with and of.

There are ones which change the speech to the point of not understanding at all 
what is intended.

My wife accidentally activated "bells," which is a West Minster chime speaking 
but, she didn't know what happened.

and, forgot that if you have other languages in your rotor you can go to it and 
escape the nightmare of not knowing what is happening, what is being spoken and 
how to escape.

Remember one thing; you can audition the sound without activating it, or, for 
that matter listen to a voice without activating it either by flicking down on 
an item and one of the options is to "speak sample," 
which it would have done on the "bells" novelty except she activated it and for 
awhile we both were like in a country where the language and customs are 
completely not known in a condition where it was vital we knew what to do and 
how to act and could not. Like an actual nightmare. At first she was utterly 
lost and then she figured out that it was speaking, and then took some time to 
understand it for it was hard. My hearing is way below normal, but hers is 
extraordinarily excellent, however, the "bells" novelty was so different it 
took her some time to understand where she was and how to get back to some 
semblance of a speaking phone rather than one steeped in a belfry. First she 
couldn't understand enough to get anywhere or know from where to get to 
somewhere else, but after a while while we were both flummoxed, she understood 
enough to get words like "button," and others so she found the rotor and was 
then able to turn it to something other than at the time, her default language 
which was on "bells novelty," so wow, that was not fun.

There are definitely people in this world who have very little to do but . . . 
because some of those "novelties" are not fun at all.

Again, do remember to audition if you rely on your phone to speak to you to 
determine where you are, because you can get into a situation where your phone 
will not make sense, period.

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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Star Gazer

Where on the email do you do a double tap and hold or 
triple tap? 

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Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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RE: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Star Gazer

Here can I find his podcasts? 

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Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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Re: Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Chris Chaffin



Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris


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> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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RE: App switcher issue in IOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Yes, I remember reading about it on AppleVis, so you may want to check that out.

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Hi everyone,

I thought I read about a bug in IOS 16 with the app switcher, and after 
upgrading to the OS last night, I am experiencing an issue where I cant see the 
apps in the app switcher. Do I recall correctly that this is a known issue?

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App switcher issue in IOS 16

2022-09-13 Thread joedinero68

Hi everyone,

 

I thought I read about a bug in IOS 16 with the app switcher, and after
upgrading to the OS last night, I am experiencing an issue where I cant see
the apps in the app switcher. Do I recall correctly that this is a known
issue?

 

Thanks,

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Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

2022-09-13 Thread Rafał Marzec

I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to 
set up it

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> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r
> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call
> when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.
> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I
> made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off
> under accessibility/touch.
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Re: Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread lenron brown

Yes it's in that apps tab at the bottom. It says audio.

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Record audio button has gone in iMessage

2022-09-13 Thread Rafał Marzec

Hello everyone, I don’t know if you’ve noticed that but in iOS 16 the record 
audio button which is available in iMessage before you start typing has gone 
and now in this place we’ve got dictate button
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Scheduling email

2022-09-13 Thread Rafał Marzec

Hello everyone, I’ve got just a quick question do you know where can I find an 
option to schedule email in iOS 16?

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RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

2022-09-13 Thread chrisjudge1967

It would actually be interesting to see how a sighted thief who has know 
knowledge of voice over would handle it. They'd probably get freaked out by the 
voice and toss the phone away.

Chris Judge

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 12, 2022 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

But anybody who knows just a little and you can assume any thief knows probably 
more than that can just turn Voiceover off and bingo, no more screen curtain.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Why didn't she use her own phone?
My phone makes a sound when it unlocks, I have it set as one of the haptic 
options I'd be having a serious talk with your friend about boundaries, or I'd 
make sure I had stuff on the phone that would embarrass her. 
Really though, this is a boundary issue not a phone issue. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.

Chris Judge

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.

Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.

Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she picked 
up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she wanted to 
make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, thinking it 
was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device by simply 
pointing it towards me.

It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  

I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up my 
phone?"  Wow!

I just don't like Face ID!

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out of 
our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock the 
phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 15sec. 
It would take most people half this time to realize what just happened & to 
react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be more secure.

Donna

> 
> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, 
> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch 
> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more 
> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having to 
> put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a feature 
> without it having to be all about their blindness or their unwillingness to 
> learn something new.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face 
> ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and 
> Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. 
> And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the 
> 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they think 
> it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, but so do 
> those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or down from the 
> top. Try it. Put your toe in the water, and you’ll find out it’s not that big 
> of a deal.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Dennis and Everyone,
>> 
>> Dennis I completely agree with your sentiment.
>> 
>> I was completely underwhelmed, at best, and absolutely disappointed, at 
>> worst, with iPhone release this time around.
>> 
>> I was hoping for some form of TouchID but, not gonna happen.
>> 
>> Removing the SIM tray on the US models is somewhat concerning as A T & T 
>> Wireless has had some problems with Activating and maintaining the account 
>> settings when eSim is activated.  This is according to several

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