RE: Blocking a text caller.

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Richard

How clever a solution. That is the kind of trouble shooting I normally do. you 
got to it far faster than I did!

 

 

Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

 

And, you could always begin a call to that number, hang up.

Go to Phone, Recents, and block it from there, then delete the recent call and 
the text messages.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

 

Ah, a little trick I learned here. You need to go all the way to the top of the 
list of texts from that number, double tap on the very first time that number 
texted you, and then you will find the “block” option Richard described.

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

 

Pramit

I also got no option to block. 

First you say a text message then a phone call you can see in recents. I don't 
believe the text messages from groups that you want to delete are considered 
phone calls and will show there. That would make it easier to delete.

What I get in messages is an info button then an option to delete or remove 
under more. I'm not sure that was the order of things. At one point it actually 
asked if I wanted to delete the conversation and I said yes, but I forgot to 
look for the done button. No matter which arrangement of moves I do, the number 
is still there aside from simply deleting it for the time being.

I'm thinking the that the person who created the group list 
needs to redo it or delete and start over leaving those of us out of it that do 
not want to be in it.

Otherwise maybe I can find the way to group all those numbers 
myself then delete them in one fell swoop.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Blocking a text caller.

 

Here’s what I did that finally worked. I double-tapped the number or name at 
the top of the message from whom the message was sent.  Then, I scrolled to the 
info button and double-tapped on it.  There I got to a details screen where I 
once again double-tapped on the name or number of the person I wanted to block. 
 This opened up a screen in my contacts list, probably the same one found under 
recents.  I scrolled down to the bottom of the screen and found the block 
caller option.  I double-tapped on that and then double-tapped in the 
appropriate place to confirm that I wanted to block the caller.

 

Pramit

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:25 AM Dennis Long  wrote:

I tried that and didn't see block.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

Yes it is.
Touch the number, flick up to more, double tap, and then see if a button 
labeled Info shows up, if not repeat the above until you find a button called 
Info and double tap it.
You should then find the usual buttons to share etc., and the last one on the 
screen will be block contact.
Double tap, then flick to block again and double tap and you can delete the 
messages and that number won't be able to text you.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blocking a text caller.

Is there a way to block a number that texts you? Evidently, someone with my 
number previously was in some kind of group, and I keep getting texts about 
someone dropping out. I wish they'd all drop out, and I wouldn't hear any more 
from them.


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RE: Blocking a text caller.

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

I had a feeling it was something like that. I am going to sit down and hope 
another message from that particular group comes in pronto so I can get rid of 
them for good. 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

 

Ah, a little trick I learned here. You need to go all the way to the top of the 
list of texts from that number, double tap on the very first time that number 
texted you, and then you will find the “block” option Richard described.

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

 

Pramit

I also got no option to block. 

First you say a text message then a phone call you can see in recents. I don't 
believe the text messages from groups that you want to delete are considered 
phone calls and will show there. That would make it easier to delete.

What I get in messages is an info button then an option to delete or remove 
under more. I'm not sure that was the order of things. At one point it actually 
asked if I wanted to delete the conversation and I said yes, but I forgot to 
look for the done button. No matter which arrangement of moves I do, the number 
is still there aside from simply deleting it for the time being.

I'm thinking the that the person who created the group list 
needs to redo it or delete and start over leaving those of us out of it that do 
not want to be in it.

Otherwise maybe I can find the way to group all those numbers 
myself then delete them in one fell swoop.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blocking a text caller.

 

Here’s what I did that finally worked. I double-tapped the number or name at 
the top of the message from whom the message was sent.  Then, I scrolled to the 
info button and double-tapped on it.  There I got to a details screen where I 
once again double-tapped on the name or number of the person I wanted to block. 
 This opened up a screen in my contacts list, probably the same one found under 
recents.  I scrolled down to the bottom of the screen and found the block 
caller option.  I double-tapped on that and then double-tapped in the 
appropriate place to confirm that I wanted to block the caller.

 

Pramit

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:25 AM Dennis Long  wrote:

I tried that and didn't see block.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

Yes it is.
Touch the number, flick up to more, double tap, and then see if a button 
labeled Info shows up, if not repeat the above until you find a button called 
Info and double tap it.
You should then find the usual buttons to share etc., and the last one on the 
screen will be block contact.
Double tap, then flick to block again and double tap and you can delete the 
messages and that number won't be able to text you.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blocking a text caller.

Is there a way to block a number that texts you? Evidently, someone with my 
number previously was in some kind of group, and I keep getting texts about 
someone dropping out. I wish they'd all drop out, and I wouldn't hear any more 
from them.


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RE: Blocking a text caller.

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Pramit

I also got no option to block. 

First you say a text message then a phone call you can see in recents. I don't 
believe the text messages from groups that you want to delete are considered 
phone calls and will show there. That would make it easier to delete.

What I get in messages is an info button then an option to delete or remove 
under more. I'm not sure that was the order of things. At one point it actually 
asked if I wanted to delete the conversation and I said yes, but I forgot to 
look for the done button. No matter which arrangement of moves I do, the number 
is still there aside from simply deleting it for the time being.

I'm thinking the that the person who created the group list 
needs to redo it or delete and start over leaving those of us out of it that do 
not want to be in it.

Otherwise maybe I can find the way to group all those numbers 
myself then delete them in one fell swoop.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blocking a text caller.

 

Here’s what I did that finally worked. I double-tapped the number or name at 
the top of the message from whom the message was sent.  Then, I scrolled to the 
info button and double-tapped on it.  There I got to a details screen where I 
once again double-tapped on the name or number of the person I wanted to block. 
 This opened up a screen in my contacts list, probably the same one found under 
recents.  I scrolled down to the bottom of the screen and found the block 
caller option.  I double-tapped on that and then double-tapped in the 
appropriate place to confirm that I wanted to block the caller.

 

Pramit

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:25 AM Dennis Long  wrote:

I tried that and didn't see block.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blocking a text caller.

Yes it is.
Touch the number, flick up to more, double tap, and then see if a button 
labeled Info shows up, if not repeat the above until you find a button called 
Info and double tap it.
You should then find the usual buttons to share etc., and the last one on the 
screen will be block contact.
Double tap, then flick to block again and double tap and you can delete the 
messages and that number won't be able to text you.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blocking a text caller.

Is there a way to block a number that texts you? Evidently, someone with my 
number previously was in some kind of group, and I keep getting texts about 
someone dropping out. I wish they'd all drop out, and I wouldn't hear any more 
from them.


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gmail

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

This may be a 
gmail question not a voice over question. Dismiss it if you think it
inappropriate for the list.
I've been going through the "ALL" folder and getting rid of all the mail I
thought was deleted but never has been. Everything is in there including
notes and they date back to 2017, which was when I set up the g mail account
on my iPhone.
All was going well until suddenly all the mail from the All folder
wound up in my In box. I don't remember saying move all to the In box but
that is the only thing I can figure out happened when I told it to move a
few of the posts back to the in box.
Someone told me that there is a way from the phone to tell gmail to
delete all deleted mail from the server but I can't find it anywhere in
settings on the actual phone. My guess that if this is even possible it must
be done from gmail on the internet. 
In settings I see a place to turn off notes and calender which I take to
mean notes and calaender appointments will remain on the phone but there
will be no back up that I can access in the archive or All folder which I"m
not sure means it will never show up anywhere in ether space. Is that a
correct assumption?
I picked up a cheapphone from Consumer Cellular and left it on the original
apple account which means if I cloud is on everything from my old phone
starts to get transferred over. I've turned backup and the drive off because
I do not want all that old gmail on the new phone. Same with not wanting
Outlook on the new phone either because it too never truly deletes
everything you've deleted. I intend to move everything over from the old
phone which is still functional for the most part but has a different
number, when the new phone gets unlocked in 180 days or so, I will move my T
Mobile chip to the new phone and ditch the consumer cellular 
service. I would have no problem keeping it other than I have a free
lifetime t Mobile account through a family member and I do not want to give
that up. I would in fact recommend CC for anyone who wants to look into a
more affordable option. I bought a new 6S for $150 which some may laugh at
but it's more than adequate for now until I find the need to replace it with
something with more memory. It's running 13_ and qualifies for the newest
updates and there is no hitch with it's performance. I wil switch it over to
Spanish and run it on wi-fi alone once I buy another  new phone somewhere
down the line.

Any suggestions how to once and for all get mail off the server so it does
not download to other devices? I did a google search and the only useful
thing I found before losing patience was to go into the All folder and get
rid of what is in there.

I hope all are hanging in there with social distancing and recovering from
being sick or trying to prevent getting sick. I'm taking this time to clean
up my computer and files on the phone and generally things are busy as ever
due to the fact that communication through this technology is running
smoothly.

Deidre

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RE: Siri Not Speaking

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

I cuss at Seeri frequently and she usually responds in a huffy voice with 
something like: and all I was trying to do was help you.

Just now to test what she might say I asked a question I knew she could not 
answer. When she bungled the question, I said rather unfairly in this instance: 
 you are so f stupid. She replied in an uncharacteristically  neutral 
voice: I won't reply to that. Good for her.

I have never been timed out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Not Speaking

 

Siri doesn’t sulk in that way, LOL. You heard an urban myth. Something else up 
with the phone, not Siri as such. 

 

From: Vivian Conger   

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Siri Not Speaking

OK Guys:

 

I heard that if you cuss at Siri whether you mean to or not, she will stop 
speaking to you for a period of time.  Is that true?  How long if it is?

 

My dog was bumping my arm while I was trying to call Siri and sadly I said the 
F word when I dropped the phone.

 

My bad I know.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

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Lotsa helpinghands

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Hello all
I just found out about this incredible service called Lots of Helping Hands.
The web site is accessible on a PC but the App has icons that do nothing
when you hit on them as you would select a Tab. Has anyone tried using the
smart phone app with any success?

Deidre

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RE: using the phone for translations

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By Richard's recommendation I downloaded Microsoft Translater and it is simple 
to use and works great. You can do a text or voice search and translate from 
English to another language or from another language to English.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: using the phone for translations

 

Try the Microsoft Translator app.

 

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Petty
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: using the phone for translations

 

Are there accessible apps that will allow me to speak a sentence or two into 
the phone and then translate what I have said into Spanish? I would like 
something that will translate audibly and in writing on the screen.

 

Recently I’ve used what I believe to be a built in iPhone app. It works well 
enough for a few  words, although I need to be able to translate more at one 
time.

 

My need now is not to use this as a learning tool. I really need to use the app 
to translate in real time.

 

I’ll appreciate any help that can be offered. Thank you in advance.

 

Richard Petty

 

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: using the phone for translations

 

Richard

Yes, now that I say that, it's kind of funny cause I must hear the Spanish 
first in order to pronounce it properly! I can also capture native speakers and 
translate that way too when they are around. Mostly I am studying on my own and 
reading emails that are now all coming in in Spanish! Hah! It's timely to look 
all that stuff up. Even if I get a single word - noun, adverb, or verb 
translated that goes a long way to comprehending what is written.wor

I will look for the Microsoft Translator app pronto.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: using the phone for translations

 

are you trying to translate then from Spanish to English where you are speaking 
the Spanish? Or the other way around? 

Try the free Microsoft Translator app.


https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-translator/id1018949559 
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Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Jan 31, 2020, at 8:31 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hello all
I'm wondering if a costly but easy way to use a phone to translate Spanish
into English is to buy another phone or some other device. I do not own an
ipad, or tablet, or ipod or any other device. I assume that the translators
readily available for sale all have screens where you read the result of the
translation, might get a proper pronunciation but maybe can't spell out a
word letter by letter. 
   I haven't dared to switch my current iPhone the phone into an other
language because I am afraid that I won't find my way back to English I did
that on YouTube a week or so ago and accidentally got stuck not even on
Spanish but on Laotian.That took a huge effort on the part of someone
sighted with thehelp of a software engineer to find the combo box with
unlabeled names of things to select English once more.
   I've heard people mention putting languages into the rotar but I
think that means that any words written in Spanish or Italian, for example,
will be pronounced correctly when they are encountered. 
   Does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap option to use a phone
or other device for this purpose? The google translator works great for
English to Spanish translations, but Like I said, I'm afraid to switch Siri
over to Spanish to English and get stuck there, plus my dictation isn't
going to be accurate in Spanish.

   Deidre 
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RE: Printing an Attachment from the Mail App on My Phone

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Oh yes, Dulce, you meant an attached file, not the message! Sorry for my 
useless suggestion. Richard came to the rescue once again. 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Printing an Attachment from the Mail App on My Phone

 

Assuming you have an AirPrint enabled printer, open the attachment, double tap 
on share, and Print should be one of those options. 

HTH,

 

 

 

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On Feb 7, 2020, at 7:54 AM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  wrote:

How do I print a file attachment from the native mail app on my phone? 

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RE: Printing an Attachment from the Mail App on My Phone

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Dulce 

I believe all you do is hit on reply and arrow down until you hear print. If it 
is not under the reply button, try one of the others.For instance when you hit 
reply as in to reply to a message, you have to hit reply a second time to get 
into the message body. That is because there are other options listed there 
such as one to forward the message you are reading to someone else, or perhaps 
to another email  of your own!

 

Deidre

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Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
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How do I print a file attachment from the native mail app on my phone? 

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RE: Advancing to Next Duolingo Lesson

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Dulce 

At the top of the opening screen are 3or 4 tabs. One is called Crowns, one is 
called Streaks and the other one is called Hearts.  You have to select Hearts 
then read down until you see the word Gems then the plus sign and the number 1. 
I hit on that to open a lesson. It sometimes takes a few seconds so be patient. 

By hit or miss, I sometimes can read stories and win points or 
maybe even gems. There is a long list of things that I want to explore but you 
can't get at them until you complete one level or another. I have no clue what 
to do with the8 crowns I have and the 3 Streaks. I haven't seen anywhere where 
any of that was explained but I haven't looked hard for any instruction on the 
App.

 

Deidre

 

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Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Listserv Hims Notetakers
Subject: Advancing to Next Duolingo Lesson

 

Hi, Language Learners,

I've restarted using DuoLingo after a long hiatus and don't know how to go to 
the next lesson. Apparently I need hearts to do this. Can someone help? Is the 
paid Plus version accessible?

Thanks,
Dulce 

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RE: using the phone for translations

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Richard

Yes, now that I say that, it's kind of funny cause I must hear the Spanish 
first in order to pronounce it properly! I can also capture native speakers and 
translate that way too when they are around. Mostly I am studying on my own and 
reading emails that are now all coming in in Spanish! Hah! It's timely to look 
all that stuff up. Even if I get a single word - noun, adverb, or verb 
translated that goes a long way to comprehending what is written.wor

I will look for the Microsoft Translator app pronto.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: using the phone for translations

 

are you trying to translate then from Spanish to English where you are speaking 
the Spanish? Or the other way around? 

Try the free Microsoft Translator app.


https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-translator/id1018949559

 

 

 

Richard

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On Jan 31, 2020, at 8:31 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hello all
I'm wondering if a costly but easy way to use a phone to translate Spanish
into English is to buy another phone or some other device. I do not own an
ipad, or tablet, or ipod or any other device. I assume that the translators
readily available for sale all have screens where you read the result of the
translation, might get a proper pronunciation but maybe can't spell out a
word letter by letter. 
   I haven't dared to switch my current iPhone the phone into an other
language because I am afraid that I won't find my way back to English I did
that on YouTube a week or so ago and accidentally got stuck not even on
Spanish but on Laotian.That took a huge effort on the part of someone
sighted with thehelp of a software engineer to find the combo box with
unlabeled names of things to select English once more.
   I've heard people mention putting languages into the rotar but I
think that means that any words written in Spanish or Italian, for example,
will be pronounced correctly when they are encountered. 
   Does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap option to use a phone
or other device for this purpose? The google translator works great for
English to Spanish translations, but Like I said, I'm afraid to switch Siri
over to Spanish to English and get stuck there, plus my dictation isn't
going to be accurate in Spanish.

   Deidre 
for word

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using the phone for translations

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Hello all
I'm wondering if a costly but easy way to use a phone to translate Spanish
into English is to buy another phone or some other device. I do not own an
ipad, or tablet, or ipod or any other device. I assume that the translators
readily available for sale all have screens where you read the result of the
translation, might get a proper pronunciation but maybe can't spell out a
word letter by letter. 
I haven't dared to switch my current iPhone the phone into an other
language because I am afraid that I won't find my way back to English. I did
that on YouTube a week or so ago and accidentally got stuck not even on
Spanish but on Laotian.That took a huge effort on the part of someone
sighted with thehelp of a software engineer to find the combo box with
unlabeled names of things to select English once more.
I've heard people mention putting languages into the rotar but I
think that means that any words written in Spanish or Italian, for example,
will be pronounced correctly when they are encountered. 
Does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap option to use a phone
or other device for this purpose? The google translator works great for
English to Spanish translations, but Like I said, I'm afraid to switch Siri
over to Spanish to English and get stuck there, plus my dictation isn't
going to be accurate in Spanish.

Deidre 
for word

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RE: What's App

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Thanks Steve. I'm only using What's App in the Chat mode. When sending voice 
messages I don't hear anything except at the start of recording when you can 
hear voice over say some things. I will turn off in app and see if that goes 
away. I'm not hearing anything else, just the ping when I start recording and 
the ping when I lift my finger. It's powerful to hear the person's voice live 
and has a whole other feel to it than when on a live phone call. It accentuates 
the person like a recording you might want to preserve. I don't save things on 
my phone though, so most exchanges get deleted nearly immediately.

Deidre
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Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's App

Here are two tips that will make using WhatsApp nicer for you if you're 
a VoiceOver screenreader user (as opposed to a VoiceOver magnification 
user).


1. On the Settings tab, go to Notifications, and turn off in-app 
notifications. This will stop your phone from buzzing, beeping, and 
speaking while you're using the application.


2. In iOS Settings, go to Accessibility, VoiceOver, then turn off the 
item that automatically describes images. This will stop WhatsApp saying 
something every time a new voice message plays.


On 1/23/2020 5:51 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote:
> Update.
> I thought I was signed in but I wasn't. Once I signed in the download started 
> just fine.
> I haven't paid much attention to posts about What's App since I wasn't using 
> it, but maybe I should have read those posts! I'll see soon enough.
>
> Deidre

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RE: What's App

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Update.
I thought I was signed in but I wasn't. Once I signed in the download started 
just fine.
I haven't paid much attention to posts about What's App since I wasn't using 
it, but maybe I should have read those posts! I'll see soon enough.

Deidre

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What's App

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Hello all
A friend has been pesterung ne to use What's App rather than text messaging.
He wants to hear my voice not read the gibberish I sometimes send him when
the dictation is shoddy and I haven't taken the time to correct it.
I first did a search for What's App and saw a few listings. Should I
assume that the App I want is called What's App Messenger?
When I hit on the "redownload" button,  it said I was in the UK
store and it was not available for download to my phone and I needed to get
it from the U.S. store.
How do I get back to that? I looked something up the other day that
was only available in the UK which must be why I am stuck there. I only see
an ok button nothing more.
I had What's App on my phone ages ago but for whatever reason did
not stick with it.

Deidre
 

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RE: 01 Spanish Basics Lesson 1 Duo lingo

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Penny and Kelby
I can't tell you except that I just went to Settings and Duo Lingo and see some 
things that need to be turned on there, like microphone and speech recognition. 
Check that out.
If that is not the problem you and Kelby are having, maybe Regina has a fix for 
you both.
I downloaded the App recently but can't tell what version it is.

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Penny Reeder
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 01 Spanish Basics Lesson 1 Duolingo

I think I downloaded the correct app, but the first thing it asks me
to do is to choose one out of four pictures. This obviously will not
work for me!

I need an auditory language app, not one that asks me to choose which
is the correct picture of a cat...

What am I doint wrong?
Thanks.
Penny

On 1/19/20, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Penny
> It's Duo Lingo. I access it on my i Phone. It's a free download from the App
> Store. I don't know how many languages it has lessons for, but I bet it's a
> lot of them.
> Deidre

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RE: 01 Spanish Basics Lesson 1 Duolingo

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Penny
It's Duo Lingo. I access it on my i Phone. It's a free download from the App 
Store. I don't know how many languages it has lessons for, but I bet it's a lot 
of them.
Deidre

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Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 4:36 PM
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Hi to both of you. I am coming in late to this discussion and find
that I am very interested in this language program. I clicked on the
link and found it very accessible.

What service is this? How expensive is it? What languages can one learn?

Thanks so much for sharing this information.
Penny

On 1/19/20, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> I loaded the first Spanish lesson on my phone and am getting the same format
> as the other language I had picked.
>
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 4:10 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Sorry for that forward. Here is the link to the very first video and what
>> you should expect to hear:
>> https://youtu.be/qIcAGtYdWPc
>>
>>
>> Deidre
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01 Spanish Basics Lesson 1 Duolingo

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Sorry for that forward. Here is the link to the very first video and what
you should expect to hear:

https://youtu.be/qIcAGtYdWPc


Deidre

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RE: Language Learning Apps

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Kelby
Ihave a better suggestion. Go to YouTube and Plug in Duo Lingo Spanish Lesson 1 
and see what comes up. There is a guy who goes through the lessons and it's the 
same as what is on the App. He does it in English and you will hear what the 
App says in both English and Spanish. In my next post I will send the link to 
that first video in the series so you can get  an idea of how it works. That 
is, if you can figure out what you are missing.

Deidre

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RE: Language Learning Apps

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Ah, Kelby, if I can go back to lesson 1, I'll clue you in. I'll do that 
sometime today.

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Kelby Carlson
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Language Learning Apps

So, do you just guess what the correct word is or what? The very first question 
asks which word is the correct one, but there have been no lessons or anything 
yet, and I have been told that on each screen there are pictures that match up 
with the words.

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 3:37 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> There may be pictures but on my App there is a list of things to choose 
> from. I swipe to the right to go down line by line and see what the choices 
> are. They are words and you choose the one that  is the word in Spanish for 
> water. I probably just double tap on the correct answer and it is selected. 
> Then I swipe down some more to "check" to see if I am right. That is how most 
> of it works.
> 
> Deidre
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Language Learning Apps
> 
> The first lesson I opened, asked me "which of these is water"; there was 
> clearly a set of pictures one was meant to choose from. I did in fact 
> download Duolingo, so we're talking about the same app.
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like you may be confusing Duolingo with Rosetastone.
>> When I've played around with Duolingo, I've had to type, and speak and 
>> select a sequence of words, but don't recall picture based stuff. Not saying 
>> that there aren't images, but I do know that Rosetastone is pretty much all 
>> images.
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
>> Carlson
>> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Language Learning Apps
>> 
>> How are you supposed to use Duolingo when it is all picture-based?
>> 
>>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have Duo Lingo but haven’t explored it yet, so any help doing so would 
>>> be appreciated. I am delving into Spanish which I know some of and even a 
>>> little French. 
>>> Another trick I have used is via the You Version Bible app.  I am able to 
>>> switch not only among English Bible versions but also versions in other 
>>> languages. You do this by activating the version button while in a chapter 
>>> of Scripture. You can then search through languages and versions and select 
>>> one to view, and you will be taken to that same chapter in the new 
>>> versionthough this might not work if you were reading in the Apocrypha in 
>>> one version and the other version doesn’t have that. 
>>> You will have a list of recently used versions you can switch among after 
>>> you have done this. They are available for down load for off line use, 
>>> though I’ve been content so far just to read within the app.  
>>> Hope this is some enlightenment to you on this Sunday. 
>>> Bill Outman 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 3:40 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Duo Lingo is good and systematic in it's approach. If you don't get a 
>>>> perfect score on a given lesson, it will hammer you to death with the same 
>>>> questions over and over again. The problem for me is that I can't figure 
>>>> out how to keep going through lessons and I think it has something to do 
>>>> with the Tabs. The tabs are labeled Crowns, Course, Street, and Hearts 
>>>> Hearts has gems in it, and they are like points you need to use to start 
>>>> new lessons. If you select that Tab that seems to be the only place to 
>>>> continue lessons from and voice over says that. Problem is that if you 
>>>> quit a lesson it brings you back to a starting page with a list of all 
>>>> kinds of interesting topics but you can't look at them.
>>>> With the heart tab selected, it shows you how many gems hearts you have 
>>>> and you need to hit on anumber like 1 which it shows you, and then you 
>>>> continue on where you left off, even though it seems like I am still 
>>>> annoyingly clos

RE: Language Learning Apps

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There may be pictures but on my App there is a list of things to choose from. I 
swipe to the right to go down line by line and see what the choices are. They 
are words and you choose the one that  is the word in Spanish for water. I 
probably just double tap on the correct answer and it is selected. Then I swipe 
down some more to "check" to see if I am right. That is how most of it works.

Deidre
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Language Learning Apps

The first lesson I opened, asked me "which of these is water"; there was 
clearly a set of pictures one was meant to choose from. I did in fact download 
Duolingo, so we're talking about the same app.

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you may be confusing Duolingo with Rosetastone.
> When I've played around with Duolingo, I've had to type, and speak and select 
> a sequence of words, but don't recall picture based stuff. Not saying that 
> there aren't images, but I do know that Rosetastone is pretty much all images.
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
> Carlson
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Language Learning Apps
> 
> How are you supposed to use Duolingo when it is all picture-based?
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:
>> 
>> I have Duo Lingo but haven’t explored it yet, so any help doing so would be 
>> appreciated. I am delving into Spanish which I know some of and even a 
>> little French. 
>> Another trick I have used is via the You Version Bible app.  I am able to 
>> switch not only among English Bible versions but also versions in other 
>> languages. You do this by activating the version button while in a chapter 
>> of Scripture. You can then search through languages and versions and select 
>> one to view, and you will be taken to that same chapter in the new 
>> versionthough this might not work if you were reading in the Apocrypha in 
>> one version and the other version doesn’t have that. 
>> You will have a list of recently used versions you can switch among after 
>> you have done this. They are available for down load for off line use, 
>> though I’ve been content so far just to read within the app.  
>> Hope this is some enlightenment to you on this Sunday. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 3:40 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Duo Lingo is good and systematic in it's approach. If you don't get a 
>>> perfect score on a given lesson, it will hammer you to death with the same 
>>> questions over and over again. The problem for me is that I can't figure 
>>> out how to keep going through lessons and I think it has something to do 
>>> with the Tabs. The tabs are labeled Crowns, Course, Street, and Hearts. 
>>> Hearts has gems in it, and they are like points you need to use to start 
>>> new lessons. If you select that Tab that seems to be the only place to 
>>> continue lessons from and voice over says that. Problem is that if you quit 
>>> a lesson it brings you back to a starting page with a list of all kinds of 
>>> interesting topics but you can't look at them.
>>>  With the heart tab selected, it shows you how many gems hearts you have 
>>> and you need to hit on anumber like 1 which it shows you, and then you 
>>> continue on where you left off, even though it seems like I am still 
>>> annoyingly close to the first lessons.

>>> With the Hearts tab selected There is a short list of things that voice 
>>> over reads. The last item in that list says free trial. Who knows what that 
>>> is for? I ssume it is to purchase some other version of Duo Lingo.
>>> 
>>> Deidre
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RE: Language Learning Apps

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 Maybe there are some settings you need to turn on. Sorry you aren't 
getting any useful feedback. I don't remember having to do anything for voice 
over to read me what was there. 
The program is fairly intuitive cause there isn't a lot to read on a 
single screen. After you answer what questions are there, it says check and you 
hit on that and I even get a positive sound and vo says you are correct. If you 
are not correct, it says something different.
Good luck trying to get it to work. I have other issues with the App 
which causes  me to quit it for awhile then go back and see if I can figure out 
how to continue with the lessons.
Deidre

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RE: Language Learning Apps

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It talks. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 12:50 PM
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How are you supposed to use Duolingo when it is all picture-based?

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:
> 
> I have Duo Lingo but haven’t explored it yet, so any help doing so would be 
> appreciated. I am delving into Spanish which I know some of and even a little 
> French. 
> Another trick I have used is via the You Version Bible app.  I am able to 
> switch not only among English Bible versions but also versions in other 
> languages. You do this by activating the version button while in a chapter of 
> Scripture. You can then search through languages and versions and select one 
> to view, and you will be taken to that same chapter in the new versionthough 
> this might not work if you were reading in the Apocrypha in one version and 
> the other version doesn’t have that. 
> You will have a list of recently used versions you can switch among after you 
> have done this. They are available for down load for off line use, though 
> I’ve been content so far just to read within the app.  
> Hope this is some enlightenment to you on this Sunday. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 3:40 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Duo Lingo is good and systematic in it's approach. If you don't get a 
>> perfect score on a given lesson, it will hammer you to death with the same 
>> questions over and over again. The problem for me is that I can't figure out 
>> how to keep going through lessons and I think it has something to do with 
>> the Tabs. The tabs are labeled Crowns, Course, Street, and Hearts. Hearts 
>> has gems in it, and they are like points you need to use to start new 
>> lessons. If you select that Tab that seems to be the only place to continue 
>> lessons from and voice over says that. Problem is that if you quit a lesson 
>> it brings you back to a starting page with a list of all kinds of 
>> interesting topics but you can't look at them.
>>   With the heart tab selected, it shows you how many gems hearts you have 
>> and you need to hit on anumber like 1 which it shows you, and then you 
>> continue on where you left off, even though it seems like I am still 
>> annoyingly close to the first lessons.

>> With the Hearts tab selected There is a short list of things that voice over 
>> reads. The last item in that list says free trial. Who knows what that is 
>> for? I ssume it is to purchase some other version of Duo Lingo.
>> 
>> Deidre
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Language Learning Apps

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Duo Lingo is good and systematic in it's approach. If you don't get a perfect 
score on a given lesson, it will hammer you to death with the same questions 
over and over again. The problem for me is that I can't figure out how to keep 
going through lessons and I think it has something to do with the Tabs. The 
tabs are labeled Crowns, Course, Street, and Hearts. Hearts has gems in it, and 
they are like points you need to use to start new lessons. If you select that 
Tab that seems to be the only place to continue lessons from and voice over 
says that. Problem is that if you quit a lesson it brings you back to a 
starting page with a list of all kinds of interesting topics but you can't look 
at them.
With the heart tab selected, it shows you how many gems hearts you have 
and you need to hit on anumber like 1 which it shows you, and then you continue 
on where you left off, even though it seems like I am still annoyingly close to 
the first lessons.
With the Hearts tab selected There is a short list of things that voice over 
reads. The last item in that list says free trial. Who knows what that is for? 
I ssume it is to purchase some other version of Duo Lingo.

Deidre

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RE: New Iphone user with questions.

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Sabrina 

Did you set the type of notification you wanted through Notification Settings, 
not through the setting called sound? There are a lot of choices to be made and 
likely a done button to lock them in place.

Oh, this may be done differently with IOS 13, so I may be 
barking up a wrong tree.

 

On Jan 16, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Sabrina Markel  wrote:

 

Hello,

I recently switched from Android to IOS.  I have the IPhone 7 with IOS 13.

I’m loving the switch so far, but I have a question.

I’m not getting notification sounds when I send or receive texts, send or 
receive emails and facebook notifications.  I checked the settings and all my 
sounds are checked.  Should I reset?

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RE: text of language books

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Harry

the native Books App with voice over does not read the text. Too bad. I guess 
it's back to my recorded books which are easy and require no fussing with. Duo 
Lingo is so repetitive, it's tedious. I've found the same to be true of other 
audio course work like the Pinzler series.

I guess if I want to look at spellings I'll just randomly pull up lists of 
things on-line using my PC.

My braile skills are not good enough to interpret all the contractions quickly 
enough to make it worth it though I do comprehend the pronunciation of words 
well enough that it might be doable. 

And does anyone else feel like Learning Ally's web site is needlessly obscure? 
How I love the ease of navigating the BARD mobile site on my phone. 

 

 

Deidre From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: text of language books

 

The text is all there and you can change font size and colour if you have 
enough sight to use those features. Some of the books even have embedded audio 
recordings of the dialogues: I have this one and the dialogue audio recordings 
are great 
https://books.apple.com/gb/book/enjoy-spanish-intermediate-to-upper-intermediate-course/id942879069

Harry

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RE: text of language books

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very cool, thank you. I got distracted and hadn't looked it up 
yet! Will do that shortly.

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The text is all there and you can change font size and colour if you have 
enough sight to use those features. Some of the books even have embedded audio 
recordings of the dialogues: I have this one and the dialogue audio recordings 
are great 
https://books.apple.com/gb/book/enjoy-spanish-intermediate-to-upper-intermediate-course/id942879069

Harry





On 11 Jan 2020, at 19:07, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Harry, do you see the text in books for the Teach Yourself series you referred 
to? I didn't see them, but I'll do a serch.

Deidre

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: text of language books

I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books  are 
part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver  does not change automatically - 
so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution is to 
change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way slowly 
through the lessons!
Good luck!
Harry




On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

Hello all,

I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words

which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent

marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio

both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it

pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's

not a course of study.

I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be

audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read.

When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking

these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too

would not read.

  I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking,

but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet!

  I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things

plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow

and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also

don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't

understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along

and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing

and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to

me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting

back to what seems like the opening page. 

  I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are

good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more

permanently in my memory. 

  I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or

miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses

offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what

will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader.

 

  Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons

written out for learning Spanish?

 

Deidre

 

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RE: text of language books

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Jan
I thought of the Hadley course but my braile skills aren't complete. What do 
you mean by "usb?" It might be worth giving it a try.

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RE: text of language books

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Harry, do you see the text in books for the Teach Yourself series you referred 
to? I didn't see them, but I'll do a serch.

Deidre

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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: text of language books

I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books  are 
part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver  does not change automatically - 
so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution is to 
change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way slowly 
through the lessons!
Good luck!
Harry

> On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words
> which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent
> marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio
> both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it
> pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's
> not a course of study.
> I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be
> audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read.
> When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking
> these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too
> would not read.
>I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking,
> but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet!
>I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things
> plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow
> and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also
> don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't
> understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along
> and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing
> and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to
> me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting
> back to what seems like the opening page. 
>I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are
> good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more
> permanently in my memory. 
>I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or
> miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses
> offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what
> will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader.
> 
>Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons
> written out for learning Spanish?
> 
> Deidre
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RE: text of language books

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Harry
I thought of switching my phone to Spanish but am terrified I won't understand 
much. I understand that anything read will be read in English since that is the 
language my phone is set to. What I want to see is the spelling of words in 
phrases and sentences and verb conjugations, as well as lists of vocabulary. 
The pronunciation is not the difficult part for me, and I can always go to the 
i Phone translator and plug in the same words if I want to hear them pronounced 
right. 
I want to find some text books I can read on-line or download to my phone. I 
don't need audio. Plenty of that is available through the recording houses for 
the blind. 
I've listened to a ton of language podcasts on YouTube, which are great 
but the teachers write things on the board which do not appear anywhere other 
than on the video for the sighted viewers pleasure.

Deidre
-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: text of language books

I have multiple language voices installed and, yes, VoiceOver recognises that 
an Italian novel in Apple Books is to be read out in Italian - but a book in 
English which has Italian conversations and vocabulary lists and verb tables in 
Italian are still all read out in an English voice. 
Harry

> On 11 Jan 2020, at 15:18, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> If you set your VoiceOver voice to the default voice, it should change 
> automatically.
> If you have multiple voices installed and are not using what shows as the 
> default voice, it will not change automatically.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: text of language books
> 
> I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books  are 
> part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver  does not change automatically 
> - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution 
> is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way 
> slowly through the lessons!
> Good luck!
> Harry
> 
>> On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written 
>> words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be 
>> accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for 
>> text and audio both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is 
>> great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows you to look 
>> at the spelling, but it's not a course of study.
>> I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to 
>> be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read.
>> When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm 
>> thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash 
>> cards but they too would not read.
>>   I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am 
>> overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet!
>>   I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things 
>> plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very 
>> slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will 
>> allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly 
>> and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll 
>> be going along and doing a few lessons one after another then there is 
>> the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left 
>> off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside the lessons and continue 
>> to proceed without getting back to what seems like the opening page.
>>   I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are 
>> good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more 
>> permanently in my memory.
>>   I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or 
>> miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of 
>> courses offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss 
>> to find what will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other 
>> screen reader.
>> 
>>   Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons 
>> written out for learning Spanish?
>> 
>> Deidre
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text of language books

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Hello all,
I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words
which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent
marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio
both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it
pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's
not a course of study.
I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be
audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read.
When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking
these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too
would not read.
I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking,
but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet!
I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things
plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow
and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also
don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't
understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along
and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing
and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to
me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting
back to what seems like the opening page. 
I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are
good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more
permanently in my memory. 
I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or
miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses
offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what
will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader.

Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons
written out for learning Spanish?

Deidre

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e texts

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Hello all
I am stil living in the dark ages when it comes to knowing what my options
are for accessing e-texts either through ibooks or Voice Dream or through
whatever commercial avenues would allow me to download actual texts of
books.  I am not talking about audio, I want to see exact formatting of
print texts for short stories, poetry and novels. I am interested in Espanol
language texts as well. Accent marks will definitely throw off any scanning
app I might use.
Can anyone simplify this for me and point to the most common places
to do this? Bookshare is great but the scans are not verified and often
won't give me the seamlessness and exactness that I want in a text.
Any help anyone can provide with must resources and sites would be
greatly appreciated.

Deidre

 

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RE: When Apple Suggests The Iphone, iPad And Mac Are Crafted For Privacy, They Are Not Kidding - Assume Tech

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Great article. This is definitely something to recommend these devices.

 

Deidre

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Privacy, They Are Not Kidding - Asume Tech

 

When Apple Suggests The Iphone, iPad And Mac Are Crafted For Privacy, They Are 
Not Kidding

November 7, 2019 

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When Apple Says The iPhone, iPad And Mac Are Built For Privacy, They Are Not 
Kidding

 

You would be shocked how numerous apps request for Bluetooth access, maybe with 
the motive of monitoring your locale. (Image: News18)

 

At a time when a good deal of tech companies are taking part in quickly and 
loose with our info on their platforms, as buyers we really are at a loss to

find what can perhaps be classified as a mirage. Which is why when Apple 
suggests that it can make the program and the components products with user 
information

privateness in brain, they are basically not kidding Across the board, the firm 
has made a large amount of advancements and additions to the whole privateness

facet, be it iOS 13, macOS Catalina, the Safari net browser as perfectly as a 
bunch of its individual applications such as Photographs, Obtain My and the

Overall health knowledge that the Apple iphone and the Apple Observe may well 
generate. At the very same time, Apple has also up-to-date its privacy internet

site.

 

Apple is betting seriously on what it phone calls Private Federated Studying. 
The easy plan driving this is to not only obscure and scramble a user’s private

and non-public facts from the depths of the globe broad 
world-wide-web-primarily based apps and providers, but to also localize the 
customization of the

expertise by learning and examining the consumer details, but domestically and 
on the unit. The way Apple deploys this is that all of the processing comes

about on your Iphone by itself, for instance, with no facts ever becoming 
uploaded to a server or shared with Apple or any other app developer. The Hey

Siri personalization and the synthetic intelligence-based mostly options in the 
Shots application are two examples of that. “The Apple Neural Engine in

the A13 chip performs around 100 billion operations per image to recognize 
faces and spots devoid of ever leaving your product,” says Apple.

 

At a time when well-known quick messaging apps these types of as the Fb-owned 
WhatsApp are beneath huge scrutiny for not fully securing user messages and

also getting susceptible to spy ware injections, iMessage could just be capable 
to make a strong situation for alone. Apple claims that just about every

solitary concept that you send out utilizing iMessage to a different iMessage 
user, is encrypted. This incorporates text messages, pictures, videos, emojis,

GIFs, you title it. And regardless of what contextual recommendations that 
iMessage delivers through your conversations, all those are generated on the

system by itself.

 

 

Then there is the total debate about how you are tracked throughout website 
browsers and apps, to be served contextual advertisements based mostly on your

internet use heritage, what you have been looking for and even any solutions 
that you may possibly have been wanting up on searching websites. The Safari

world wide web browser, for occasion, has one thing recognized as Smart 
Tracking Security. “It operates by separating the 3rd-bash information applied

to track you from other searching facts, so what you search at on the internet 
continues to be your enterprise — not an advertiser’s,” states Apple. The

AI and machine finding out function is carried out on the system itself (which 
suggests no info is shared with any third-get together companies) and this

element is on by default on all Safari browsers. I can say with certainty that 
with Safari as my default browser on the Iphone and on the Mac (those people

are the two devices only that I did web searching on to check how perfectly 
this functions), apps this sort of as Facebook and Instagram have been totally

thrown off my scent. I look through for some products on the internet or lookup 
anything on a shopping web-site, and contrary to in advance of when working

with Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox browser, no identical adverts pop up for 
me on Instagram and Fb, for example. Even the adverts that other web-sites

serve up are not an ode to my precise world-wide-web searches. Envision, lousy 
previous Instagram is caught in an limitless loop serving me adverts for

a Charcoal toothpaste I searched for 2 months in the past, mainly because it 
doesn’t know anything immediately after that!

 

But you can’t normally do everything on the gadget itself. Permit us get the 
case in point of 

Nearby Explorer

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

All is well with Nearby Explorer, not the on-line version. Tweaked settings
and now I hear street names. Downloaded one of the first 2 in the lists for
Google Maps which appear to be identical only the descriptions aren't. Both
are 144 mb. I was confused by how each app was prefaced by my hearing
"advertisement button."  Many more things are now showing as nearby.
I wish I knew exactly what set of maps was downloading since voice
over said it was already 100% complete and now it is moving on to
downloading or updating more maps. I'm curious about the process.
Dulce are you using on-line Nearby Explorer now?

Deidre

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Nearby Explorer and Google Maps

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Hello 
3 days ago I downloaded Nearby Explorer from a family sharing purchase page
in the App Store. What I have is Version1.30.00 copywright date of
2010-2019. I've hard since that the only Nearby Explorer now available is
the on-line App. This does not appear to be true since the app I downloaded
works fine except it is not announcing street names.
I've looked at every setting and streets is dimmed out. I am getting
business names, precise compass directions, and all kinds of other things
that I want. . One of the few things I have turned off is Gobeam. I don't
even know what it is.
I am using an i Phone 6, and I cannot update to 13, and   the bugs
others have reported are not relevant to  what I am running.
I just selected Google Maps in Nearby Explorer's settings. I went to
the App store to download some Google Maps but there are so many choices and
I don't know which I should choose. Help! 
I updated the maps when prompted by NE when I first downloaded the
app, and that had to be Apple maps. In Settings there is an option to delete
the Maps App, but is it safe to do that. Will my iphone truly allow me to
run Google Maps on it if I choose the most comprehensive of their Maps App?
That seems unusually altruistic. 

Deidre

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RE: How do I delete an FB post using my iPhone?

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Duane 
You can also go to your timeline by way of the FacebookMenu Tab at the bottom 
of each Facebook App screen. Then you have to find and hit on Profile and show 
Profile pages, then arrow down or go heading by heading until you get to 
"manage posts." From there swipe right to go down line by line until your posts 
start. Each status update should have a more button, and it might be above the 
post or after the post is finished. The more button is not always in the same 
place,meaning it might be in a different place when you are in theNewsfeed as 
opposed to on your Timeline. Do not hit on your name because that will not open 
the post as you might imagine but it will simply take you to the top of your 
profile page again.
You can also review all you have responded to and posted through 
something called the Activity Log which you also get to through the profile 
limk / page which you can only get to using the App by first selecting the 
Facebook Menu Tab.
Like most Apps or web site, you have to get familiar with what's on a page or 
what happens when you hit on various links. It pays to spend time seeing how 
things are layed out then hitting on links (andTabs) to see what your options 
are, since it's not always obvious to start with where things are or what 
options are available.

Deidre
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Albert Ruel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I delet an FB post using my iPhone?

With the post open on the screen, find the more button and double tap. Within 
that menu you will find both an edit button and a delete button.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

I'm using facebook on my iPhone with the APP, and want to delete a post and 
replace it.  How do I do that, sooner rather than later?


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RE: Facebook question, again

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Donna
Apparently I'm not the only one who uses Facebook to upload pictures. Hail 
Feliciano!
Facebook has a nice place to create albums andorganize photos so friends and 
family can  go to one place at their leisure and look at them. Problem is that 
with Facebook changing things around all the time, easy ways to access things 
might not be the same from update to update. Things change around even if you 
havent  updated. 

Deidre
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Donna
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook question, again

I don’t setup photo folders on Facebook. I share photos to Facebook from my 
device. I don’t know anyone who saves photos to Facebook to share directly from 
Facebook. Maybe this is why your questionhasn’t been answered. 

Donna 
> 
> Hi,
> Using the latest version of Facebook on iPhone I am able to access the photos 
> as well as other albums and comments. 
> What I cannot do consistently is once I’m inside of an album and choose a 
> picture, a three finger swipe left or right is not consistent to go to the 
> previous or next picture.
> 
> 
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>> On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:37 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all
>>   I posted something along these lines some days ago and got no
>> response. Perhaps it's because no one is cataloging or uploading photos to
>> Facebook since they can't see them. 
>> It's easy to post, create and add photos to an album, and to caption them,
>> and I know what they are, but once they are there, voice over won't let me
>> see them or take me to the page where you can go from photo to photo, next
>> and previous, etc. It also won't let me read the comments some people have
>> made that show up in notifications. I am talking about accessing Facebook
>> through the App or the main web site using my phone.
>>   Has anyone succeeded in doing this with voice over from the photos
>> link on the profile page which you can get to from the Facebook Menu Tab in
>> the App?
>> 
>> Deidre
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RE: Facebook question, again

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Feliciano
Thanks. 
I am not running the latest version of Facebook so maybe I should update. I 
also hear that you used to be able to move the order of photos within an album 
but that appears not to be doable anymore. Can you do it with the latest 
version?
On the PC interestingly enough, I just discovered that one screenreader lets me 
into the photo albums, and gives me  all the options that are available to 
sighted folks, but the other screen reader doesn't.
 
Deidre
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Hi,
Using the latest version of Facebook on iPhone I am able to access the photos 
as well as other albums and comments. 
What I cannot do consistently is once I’m inside of an album and choose a 
picture, a three finger swipe left or right is not consistent to go to the 
previous or next picture.


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> On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:37 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all
>I posted something along these lines some days ago and got no
> response. Perhaps it's because no one is cataloging or uploading photos to
> Facebook since they can't see them. 
> It's easy to post, create and add photos to an album, and to caption them,
> and I know what they are, but once they are there, voice over won't let me
> see them or take me to the page where you can go from photo to photo, next
> and previous, etc. It also won't let me read the comments some people have
> made that show up in notifications. I am talking about accessing Facebook
> through the App or the main web site using my phone.
>Has anyone succeeded in doing this with voice over from the photos
> link on the profile page which you can get to from the Facebook Menu Tab in
> the App?
> 
> Deidre
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Facebook question, again

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Hello all
I posted something along these lines some days ago and got no
response. Perhaps it's because no one is cataloging or uploading photos to
Facebook since they can't see them. 
It's easy to post, create and add photos to an album, and to caption them,
and I know what they are, but once they are there, voice over won't let me
see them or take me to the page where you can go from photo to photo, next
and previous, etc. It also won't let me read the comments some people have
made that show up in notifications. I am talking about accessing Facebook
through the App or the main web site using my phone.
Has anyone succeeded in doing this with voice over from the photos
link on the profile page which you can get to from the Facebook Menu Tab in
the App?

Deidre

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Facebook

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Hello all
In the last day I managed to upload some photos to Facebook using my PC. Now
when I go back to either albums I created or ones that have been there for
awhile, the individual pictures won't show. It may say Timeline Photos and
how many pictures are in there, or the name of a photo album, but when I hit
on that or "see all photos" I am not in the usual area where there is the
picture, a place for the caption, comments on the photos, and a next and
previous buttons.
Using the Facebook App with voice over I can select a particular Tab such as
Albums or Uploads but only one picture is described. If I tap on it it will
open with whatever information is associated with it. From there it will say
1 of 11 photos but I don't know how to get to the next picture. Does anyone
know? 
I'll look again for a setting on my phone for preferences having to
pictures and videos, but when I did that yesterday, I didn't see anything
that would be useful for accessing them or changing the privacy setting for
my photos.
I am hoping not to have to employ more sighted help.

Thanks in advance for anyone who can help that is well versed in the
part of their profile page that has all their photos.

Deidre

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family sharing, and sorting options in podcasts

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Richard

I used Apple Accessibility when I first got an i Phone years 
ago. I forget they are still out there. I see al the info regarding the 
organizer just don't see her purchases anywhere any longer which used to show 
when I selected the Update Tab. 

In podcasts the structure is  a little different now but I 
found part of what I could use by sorting either by title or recently played or 
updated. Still voice over isn't consistent in letting me know where the options 
are for removing podcasts from the library, etc. Voice over bugs?

One last question, perhaps for the accessibility line as well.

Some of my Siri Suggestions or Siri Shortcut Suggestions have 
an entire text message in there as a suggestion. I'd like to wipe them all out 
but there is no option for deleting any or all of them from what I can tell. 

Maybe there are new gestures in 12.4 that I am unaware of.

 

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family sharing, and what happened to the option to reorder podcasts

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Hey all
A few more things that are different since updating to 12.4 is that I no
longer see my family member's list of purchases and downloads in the APP
Store under the UPDATE TAB. That family member does indeed show in settings
somewhere having to do with family shairing, but can I assume any purchase I
make will go to that family member's account? I also miss seeing her
purchases which I could easily go through to see if she had something I
want.
And is there no longer any option to reorder podcasts in the native
podcast app? The edit button is not used for that. Yes, there are ways to
open podcasts without having to manually swipe to get to the one I want, but
it bothers me that I can not reorder them in the list. In fact once inside
the podcast I want, it is no longer streamlined as nicely as it once was way
back in 10 _. Sometimes the mini player gets you into the particular podcast
and it's episodes and other times it appears to serve as a 30 second rewind.


Deidre

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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On my phone the message  app opens automatically no matter I am sending to 
another i Phone user or other kind of smart phone user. I hate this since 
updating... having to create a shortcut and even those aren't as straight 
forward as you'd think.

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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This never happened to me when I had Verizon, but then I recently updated to 
12.4 and this might be another one of those odd misfires.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’m on Verizon.  So it appears this is not a carrier issue unless multiple 
carriers have the same problem.  Interesting that some of us seem to get a 
message not delivered notification but the message still went through.  In my 
case, and I have checked probably 20+ occurrences, the message was never 
delivered.  Now I just leave messages in the message app.  If I try to send to 
someone that I have sent a message to in the past & the message is still in my 
message app, it always goes through.

 

Also, several people have mentioned that they don’t have this problem if they 
don’t use Siri to send the message.  In my case, I have always used Siri.  I 
will have to try to type in a message to someone with an Android who has no 
message in my message app & see what happens.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
problem is coming from.

 

 

Deidre

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Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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Sometimes the message does indeed send but not always. Perhaps there is a 
setting for timing out or canceling out the message if it will not send in a 
set period of time. This happens even when I send text messages to other i 
Phone users.
 

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Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

I get a notification too, when a message fails to send. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Dave
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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If mine fails to send, i get a notification.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: Susie Stageberg   
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"
 

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The other 
one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.

 

So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 

 


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 
plus?) and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the 
first case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri 
send the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
(don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the 
phone itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
problem is coming from.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Siri or dictation malfunction

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Is this happening to anyone else?

since updating, when I am asked by Siri if I would like to replay or call back 
the person whose voice mail message I have just listened to, what happens is 
that the last person I have called is dialed back, not the person whose message 
i have just listened to., Along the same lines, sometimes the wrong person is 
called back and this can happen when the names are not even remotely alike. 
Come to think of it, it may b doing the same thing, simply calling back the 
last person I called or texted.

Today it took three tries before Siri was able to call the 
person I asked for that was in my Contacts. 

It's too bad we can't just tell Siri to look in Contacts, since 
if this is programmed in already, it isn't working all that well.

And I'm totally baffled why the more current IOS now takes me 
to the message field rather than let me dictate and send a text message without 
having to open the app. This was never the case when I was using 10.3. I think 
it has to do with the persons who are not iPhone users but those who use 
different types of phones, so their messages are not i messages. I went ahead 
and created shortcuts for the most commonly called or texted friends, but that 
hasn't helped either.

Any one or more steps I can avoid in performing any one 
function, like calling or texting someone using my phone, the better. That is 
why I have a smart phone to start with.

Is it possible all of this is because I use an 
i Phone 6 and not a higher model phone?

 

 

Deidre

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RE: Siri claims I have no voicemail messages and refuses to dial!

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Hello J. 

As you said, if you ask Siri to call voice 
mail, she will tell you that there is or has no voice mail. I just tested this.

If you ask Siri to call yourself she will. You would then listen and follow 
instructions on how to retrieve your mail with the password you have set up. 
This is how you would retrieve voice mail remotely.

If you simply ask Siri to play your most recent voice mail, she 
will do that if you have any unopened voice mail messages. If all of them have 
already been listened to, she will say something like "there  are (or you have) 
no new voice mail messages but there (or you) have 2 saved voice mail messages."

I'm sorry if anything I have written below  is already well 
known to you. 

If you have notifications for phone off, you will not see in 
the DOC the number or calls or voice mails you may have gotten in any period of 
time. You will need to open the phone app to see if anything has come in. Once 
in the phone app, depending on what you select, Recents or Voice Mail, all the 
information you want is there. 

I have other disappointments and frustrations with Siri since 
updating, but trust the security patches alone made it worth it. I can't say. I 
understand there is or will be one more update for older phones such as the 6, 
I'll do that and then be done with it until whenever I need to replace my 
current phone.

 

Deidre

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J.Cyr
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri claims I have no voicemail messages and refuses to dial!

 

I've had the same experiences re Siri saying I have no voice mail (Even when I 
have just missed a call and heard the notification announcing a message was 
left) and she will refuse to phone saying that there are no voice mail 
messages.  It has been this way since I first got my IPhone 8 in January so I 
had thought it was just the way Siri is.  (Frankly the feature is such a 
disappointment in so many ways one more didn't make a major difference.)  But 
if these are actions that it can perform that would be great.  

 

Joy


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RE: Comcast low-income program

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Wow, this is pretty impressive. Might be time to get rid of Verizon.

 

Deidre

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 1:07 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Comcast low-income program

 

 I'm forwarding to everyone in case you do not already have Comcast/Xfinity and 
live in an area that they serve, or know someone who might qualify.

 

<<>>

If you aren't already aware, Comcast has recently expanded its low-income 
“Internet Essentials” program.  There is now more criteria which will expand 
eligibility for this low-cost service to more people stuck in the digital 
divide.  This will allow affordable in-home internet service which will free 
more people from having to use public Wifi hotspots to get internet access.  

Learn more about Internet Essentials by Comcast program in English at 
internetessentials.com  

 

or in Spanish at es.internetessentials.com  

 

Summary of the Internet Essentials program is as follows:

How to Qualify:

 

To qualify, your household must:

Be in a Comcast serviceable area.

Receive a state and/or federal assistance program noted below.

Not have any level of Xfinity Internet service now or within the last 90 days.

Not have an outstanding Comcast balance that is less than one year old.

Including meeting all of the criteria noted above, your household must also be 
eligible for or receive at least one of the following public assistance 
programs:

Medicaid: Federal Healthcare Program (Such as the Oregon Health Plan).

NSLP: National School Lunch Program.

SNAP: Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. (Formally known as food stamps)

Housing: public housing assistance including HUD, Section 8, Housing Choice 
Vouchers, etc.

TANF: Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

SSI: Supplemental Security Income.

LIHEAP: Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program.

Federal Pell Grant: Community college financial aid (CO and IL only).

WIC: Women, Infants, and Children.

VA: Veterans Pension eligibility determination letter from the Veterans 
Administration.

Tribal Assistance program including TTANF, FDPIR.

What You'll Get

 

Internet Essentials includes:

15 Mbps downstream / 2 Mbps upstream Internet service for just $9.95 a month + 
local sales tax (if applicable). (A 1 Terabyte data usage cap applies as with 
other Comcast/Xfinity services)

No activation fees and no equipment rental fees for a Comcast provided Wireless 
Gateway delivering in-home WiFi!!  (This is a huge savings considering Comcast 
charges their full-rate customers $13/month for the equipment)

Upon approval of eligibility, the option to purchase a refurbished computer for 
just $149.99 + tax. (Windows 10 laptop OR desktop computer.  See the Welcome 
Kit page for details: https://www.internetessentials.com/welcome-kit )

Norton™ Security Online: Helps secure multiple PCs, Macs, smartphones and 
tablets from online security threats.

Access to free Internet training online, or in person at participating partner 
organizations.

Access to 40 (individual one-hour sessions) of Xfinity pubic WiFi Hotspots 
every 30 days.  Xfinity Wifi Hotspot Finder:  https://hotspots.wifi.xfinity.com 
  

Under this new expansion, internet access eligibility will extend to an 
additional 3 million low-income Americans. According to the U.S. Census, people 
living in high-poverty cities are 10 times less likely to have broadband at 
home than those in higher-earning communities. Comcast has already connected 
52,000 households in Oregon and SW Washington. 

 

If you have any questions, reach out to the Comcast Internet Essentials contact 
center at 1-855-846-8376 (Hours of operation are 8 AM to Midnight 
  (EST), seven days a week.) or the links noted 
above.

 

 

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 

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RE: Siri shortcuts

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Carolyn
I'm so thoroughly unimpressed by this lack of recognition. I never had this 
problem before. It's funny too, because I am someone who loves to tweak 
settings to make the most of them. I text a lot, and a wide range of people, so 
by now 
Teaching Siri how to pronounce a name is possible though I can't remember off 
the top of my head how to do it. Often she asks of her own accord how to 
pronounce a name, even if I have already spoken it and it is an easy one, like 
Jim! A name like Dulce, on the other hand requires teaching Siri how to 
recognize and pronounce it.


Deidre
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri shortcuts

I have had problem with Siri about texting. With one person, I just about have 
to tell her number instead of Mary Jones Mobile to get her to text, and she is 
the lady I ride to church with weekly. She likes me to text her to remind her. 

Another thing, I use the name Jim very frequently in tests, but so many times, 
I have to get her to do it again, because she says Gene. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Siri shortcuts

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Really, I am totally stunned and infuriated that Siri can no longer in this 
higher version simply find the one Miles in my Contacts and either phone or 
text him. Siri never had trouble knowing before that texting meant a mobile 
number, and when phoning, if several numbers were in there, I would either 
specify or she or he would ask for clarification. Like I said before, I only 
have one Miles. 

Now I am going to see if I can get some info about how best 
Siri shortcuts works. It really is a pain in the butt to have to create 
shortcuts for some of the simplest things, especially when it comes to phoning 
and texting. I'd also like to delete the suggestions she already has in there 
for me because I have edited some of those contacts and don't want to see the 
old info in there.

My use of my iPhone is for the voice over menus, and the less 
gestures I have to make the better. I have had carpal tunnel in years past that 
was extremely debilitating, and having to take additional steps to do things, 
such as go into Contacts to call or message someone or have to create a 
shortcut with recording one, etc, seems to overcomplicate the beauty the phone 
has provided me in the past.

Sorry, but this is one where Siri truly has been dumbed down, not 
improved.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another quirk after updating

 

SIRI learns a bit over time so if you have two or three contacts with the name 
John and you almost always call just one of them SIRI may just call if you say 
call John. But for me SIRI has always asked which John, to use that example, I 
wanted to call if it was somebody I called less frequently and if I had several 
entries with that first name in my contacts. This of course only makes sense 
because how would you otherwise be able to call a different John if SIRI ever 
only called one of them and often SIRI doesn’t know simply things one would 
expect it to know so I don’t think reading one’s mind is going to be on the 
menu soon.

My guess is that after the update SIRI maybe reset or lost some of what it 
learned over time and is starting to built this up again from scratch.

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another quirk after updating

 

Anna

Why the need for the extra step to get Seeri to recognize someone in my contact 
folder? I always used to simply say text and the name of the person, and almost 
always only used a first name. That worked. Using Seeri to make calls has been 
far less reliable. I guess I'll have to do the shortcut thing, but really... 
It's like Richard saying that the Company field doesn't work. Why put it there 
then?  

  All is pretty much worked out by now, except for the different voices. I 
definitely have things like the reminders in the old voice but, Seeri has a new 
chosen voice since updating. I scanned through some settings after the updates 
to see what might have been switched on, but didn't look at 

seeri at all. I'll do that now.

  Yes, I deleted the Tune In App and installed it again. Since I had no 
sign in, I had to put my local stations and shows in again. At first even 
though I hit on the favorite button, to select a local radio station, voice 
over did not say selected. When I hit favorite on a show, in that case, it 
indicated that it had been selected. Oh well. So much for consistency. It's not 
a deal breaker.

 

  Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:16 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: another quirk after updating

 

Hello Deidre,

 

Once you contact Miles, if you go to Siri settings and go to the shortcuts 
section, you should see a shortcut to contact him. You can assign a phrase to 
that shortcut like, "Call Miles," and use it to contact him in the future.

 

Have you deleted and reinstalled TuneIn yet? sounds like that should fix it.

 

VoiceOver only uses one voice throughout the phone. There are more options for 
voices in iOS 12 than 10, though, I think.

 

Best,

Anna

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RE: how do I speed up the Seeri voice

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Lastly, I didn't find anyplace to affect the Seeri voice. I switched it 
back to the somewhat insipid American female. 
Now, it's time to leave the list and get to work.
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Subject: how do I speed up the Seeri voice

I now have a very sick sounding Australian female Seeri. How do I speed her
up?

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how do I speed up the Seeri voice

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I now have a very sick sounding Australian female Seeri. How do I speed her
up?

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RE: another quirk after updating

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Anna,

I see the feature you described. It definitely will help to avoid confusion and 
uncertainty over choosing the syntax Siri is trained to recognize. Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:16 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: another quirk after updating

 

Hello Deidre,

 

Once you contact Miles, if you go to Siri settings and go to the shortcuts 
section, you should see a shortcut to contact him. You can assign a phrase to 
that shortcut like, "Call Miles," and use it to contact him in the future.

 

Have you deleted and reinstalled TuneIn yet? sounds like that should fix it.

 

VoiceOver only uses one voice throughout the phone. There are more options for 
voices in iOS 12 than 10, though, I think.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Aug 8, 2019, at 9:31 AM, 'Deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
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Hello again

I just asked Seeri to text a friend by the name of Miles. She asked me which 
one I wanted and gave me 3 other names all beginning with the letter M. Now I 
take it the phone wants me to always include a last name if I want her to get 
it right the first time around. I have no last name plugged in for some of my 
contacts, and that was my intention, not due to laziness.

And as I predicted, even though Tune In was still in the app 
switcher, it would not resume when I went back to it. Maybe I'll delete it and 
install it again. If it does the same thing, I might look for an alternative.

Drag.

Only other thing I notice is that my voice selection is no longer a 
global setting, but some functions now have a different voice. I need to go 
look for the voice settings and see what I like. I heard a young female teenage 
voice on someone's phone some months ago and I really liked it.

 

Deidre

 

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RE: another quirk after updating

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Anna

Why the need for the extra step to get Seeri to recognize someone in my contact 
folder? I always used to simply say text and the name of the person, and almost 
always only used a first name. That worked. Using Seeri to make calls has been 
far less reliable. I guess I'll have to do the shortcut thing, but really... 
It's like Richard saying that the Company field doesn't work. Why put it there 
then?  

  All is pretty much worked out by now, except for the different voices. I 
definitely have things like the reminders in the old voice but, Seeri has a new 
chosen voice since updating. I scanned through some settings after the updates 
to see what might have been switched on, but didn't look at 

seeri at all. I'll do that now.

  Yes, I deleted the Tune In App and installed it again. Since I had no 
sign in, I had to put my local stations and shows in again. At first even 
though I hit on the favorite button, to select a local radio station, voice 
over did not say selected. When I put a show in and in that case it indicated 
that it had been selected. Oh well. So much for consistency. It's not a deal 
breaker.

 

  Deidre

 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: another quirk after updating

 

Hello Deidre,

 

Once you contact Miles, if you go to Siri settings and go to the shortcuts 
section, you should see a shortcut to contact him. You can assign a phrase to 
that shortcut like, "Call Miles," and use it to contact him in the future.

 

Have you deleted and reinstalled TuneIn yet? sounds like that should fix it.

 

VoiceOver only uses one voice throughout the phone. There are more options for 
voices in iOS 12 than 10, though, I think.

 

Best,

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another quirk after updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Hello again

I just asked Seeri to text a friend by the name of Miles. She asked me which 
one I wanted and gave me 3 other names all beginning with the letter M. Now I 
take it the phone wants me to always include a last name if I want her to get 
it right the first time around. I have no last name plugged in for some of my 
contacts, and that was my intention, not due to laziness.

And as I predicted, even though Tune In was still in the app 
switcher, it would not resume when I went back to it. Maybe I'll delete it and 
install it again. If it does the same thing, I might look for an alternative.

Drag.

Only other thing I notice is that my voice selection is no longer a 
global setting, but some functions now have a different voice. I need to go 
look for the voice settings and see what I like. I heard a young female teenage 
voice on someone's phone some months ago and I really liked it.

 

Deidre

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RE: updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Richard,

I remember now, that what you wrote, is how to remove a 
favorite. I wonder why, on the other hand, that I can't add one! 

I thought I'd done the double tap and hold to reorder things 
but will try again, that is if it comes up once I take the phone off lock and 
try to resume the stream that was playing before I stopped it.

 

Deidre

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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For quite a while now, the way to remove a favorite is to open it and double 
tap on the unfavorite button, or deselecting the favorite button. 

To rearrange favorites is not documented, but I found a slightly tedious way to 
do it.

You double tap and hold on a favorite, and slide up or down in your list.

Given the size of my SE, you cannot move stations a very long way at once; but 
with some trial and error, I got things rearranged.

 

I'm sorry TuneIn is being so difficult.

You may want to try the reboot with holding the power and home buttons for 
about 6 or 8 seconds to do the forced reboot.

 

Richard 

 

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic." 

(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)

www.turner42.com

 





On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:00 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

Dave

Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

 

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?

 

 

 

From: Deidre <mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>  Muccio 

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: updating

 

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre 

 


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  wrote:

The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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RE: updating

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Dave

Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point. 

 

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after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?

 

 

 

From: Deidre <mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>  Muccio 

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: updating

 

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre 

 


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The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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Tune In

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It's taking forever to load up. I get no voice over unless I wait 4 or  more 
minutes and tap around, the tapping around may be doing nothing. I will seek 
some sighted help to see if anything is coming up on the screen. All my other 
apps like YouTube and Facebook work great, in fact better. 

I see no settings or options in Tune In for anything anymore 
other than to create a sign in or go premium. The favorites button no longer 
works to put something into my favorites, formerly the Profile Tab, and I lost 
2 of my local stations. 

As for logging in, their policy is just that a license 
agreement and privacy terms policy, but it has a dark tone to it which made me 
not want to create a login, plus I would need to know in advance if I can stay 
logged in or not. 

Then I see no way to remove old stations, no edit button, no 
gesture that I am aware of to remove or change the order in which my favorites 
and podcasts are listed. Is there a new gesture that I am missing?

The update took very little time which I was thrilled about. 
The only hitch is the problem I'm having with Tune-In. I fear I will go through 
a whole new set of antics if I delete the App and install it fresh. I'm talking 
about the free version.

Thanks all for helping bring me more up to 
date. I knew listers hear would be the best source for correct info.

 

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RE: updating

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Ok, Dave. I hear you.
I had a hard time deciding to do without the phone tonight, since it is 
still early in the evening. I know it will take time. I'm now eager to see the 
result. However, as I suspected I might,  I lost Tune In Radio when I updated. 
It won't open. Maybe after I update the IOS, it will.

Deidre
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One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as 
you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, and 
install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. So 
don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it 
plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do 
that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to 
reboot their phones.

Dave.




-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for 
the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From 
the PC!

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:
>
> If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should 
> have no problems.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
>
> My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
> iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
> jump.
>
> Deidre
>
>
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
>> over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
>> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick 
>> with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want 
>> to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
>> point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
>> with older versions of iOS will continue to work?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: updating
>>
>> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more 
>> for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 
>> was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, 
>> improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new 
>> features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this 
>> and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
>> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
>> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
>> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
>> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
>> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
>> work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
>> upgraded at least to iOS 11.
>> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend 
>> you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
>>
>> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your 
>> apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your 
>> phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > 
>> General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation 
>> finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since 
>> there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major 
>> update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and 
>> you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is 
>> snappier than before.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: updating
>>
>> Hello Deidre,
>>
>> Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older de

RE: updating

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I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Hey all
I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've got
plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said the more
recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his phone, and he
proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones. I fear the jump
from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point. 
Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the phone
again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice already. I get
bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why. I assume it is
because some notification is coming in or perhaps the newsfeed is being
refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I hadn't deleted my older
version some time ago. It worked just fine without all the bumping me back
to the top of the page. Unfortunately, or unfortunately, the Facebook App is
so much easier to use with a screen reader than accessing it through their
main site.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve
it?

Deidre

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Dick Tatian problem

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

No joke Sieghard. 
I looked at the accessibility settings on an Android the other night 
that a friend had, and paid very little for, since it was through Virgin 
Mobile. Right off, there were 3 options, none of which indicated anything you 
could intuitively select. I hand it to Apple that at least things listed in 
settings are usually fairly obvious, plus they have the explanation under the 
item to be selected or turned off. 
I can't tell you how many times I ask Seeri to dial a person, and I get 
that she can look it up on line for me. I'm talking about persons who are in my 
Contact App.
Between the added fussing on the iPhone and the crappy response I am 
getting through my current server,Verizon, I might experiment with cheaper 
options, and see what I get for a fraction of the cost.
The kind of dictation issue I have is when the voice over instruction 
to double tap with a single finger... gets plugged in when I start dictating. 
These seem like such easy issues to resolve, but then what would I know about 
that? 

Deidre
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dick Tatian problem

There are lots of dictation tips and tricks, but some of them never work for 
me. For example, if I dicate to SIRI something like this:

Buy 6 bananas SIRI always or usually writes the number six as a word and not 
the number 6.
I read you should say the word "numeral" in front of a number if you want this 
number to be written as a number. I tried this and got "Buy numeral six 
bananas".

And I can't believe you still can't say "spell this" or another trigger word 
and then get SIRI to spell out a word which I know for sure it will get wrong 
otherwise. I mean, it's been 8 years since SIRI and dictation were introduced, 
come on Apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

www.applevis.com has a good podcast concerning dictation tips and tricks.

Andy

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Subject: Dick Tatian problem




Sent from my iPhone hello everyone I am having a problem using the dictation 
on the iPhone. I’m using an iPhone 6. When I try to give out any email 
address it just is not coming out the way it supposed to you’ll get a letter 
off when I try and give it even after I tried spelling my email address and 
I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
Michael

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RE: battery drain

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This was extremely helpful. How long have the phones been using lithium 
batteries? From the outset?
 

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery drain

Leaving your phone plugged in will help, and I tend to plug my phone in 
whenever it's convenient, but it's also meant to be a mobile device, so 
I'm not a slave to a charging cable.


Lithium ion batteries have a life span based in something called cycles. 
A cycle is when you end up going through a full charge, even if it 
happens in increments. For example, if you go down to 80% charge, charge 
it up, and then go down to 50% charge, charge it up again, and then go 
down to 70% charge you'll have used up one cycle since you used up 20% 
and then 50% and then 30% for a total of 100%. This is why it's good to 
plug your phone in when you can to save cycles.


Lithium ion batteries also tend to like shallow charges, so again, if 
it's convenient, you'll want to charge it up when it gets between 80% 
and 40% left on your battery. Again, this is just something they like, 
but you won't be doing significant damage to your battery if you let it 
run all the way down or top it off when it's only down about 5% or 10%.


There are two things lithium batteries don't like. One is heat, so try 
to keep your phone from over heating, like leaving it in a sunny car 
with the windows up. They other thing they don't like is losing all of 
their charge. This won't happen when you let your battery go down to 0% 
since the electronics on your battery will say you're at 0% and shutdown 
even though they still have some charge left. What you don't want to do 
is let your phone run all the way down and then store it somewhere, 
since your battery will lose charge even if the phone is powered off. If 
you want to store your phone for some length of time, make sure the 
battery is topped off first.


Anyone can check anything I've said by researching this on your own. The 
last time I read up on this, Battery University had a good article.



On 6/1/19 12:29 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote:
> Hello all
> Someone I know repeatedly tells me that she keeps her i Phone 6S plugged in
> all the time, and that it does not add to the wear on the longtime battery
> life of the phone. What I think she is suggesting is that because the phone
> is plugged in all the time, (she has an additional battery pack of some sort
> as back up when she is out) that the phone never goes through cycles of
> recharging which means the battery will last indefinitely.
>   I have an iPhone 6 and don't know if this applies, or is advisable.
>   I'm still stuck back in the thinking that the phones only have so
> many times they can be charged but how that calculation is made I can't say.
> As it is my phone is on almost all the time, I use it for all kinds of
> things, never have location services on, and rarely have cellular data on
> cause I do not have unlimited, and between reading, podcasts, calender, Tune
> In, mail, and miscellaneous other apps, the phone has to be charged daily,
> sometimes several times a day.
>   So is the battery in the iphone 6 the same as the 6S and is
> it true that there is an advantage to keeping it plugged in all the time?
>
>   Deidre
>
-- 
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battery drain

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Hello all
Someone I know repeatedly tells me that she keeps her i Phone 6S plugged in
all the time, and that it does not add to the wear on the longtime battery
life of the phone. What I think she is suggesting is that because the phone
is plugged in all the time, (she has an additional battery pack of some sort
as back up when she is out) that the phone never goes through cycles of
recharging which means the battery will last indefinitely.
I have an iPhone 6 and don't know if this applies, or is advisable.
I'm still stuck back in the thinking that the phones only have so
many times they can be charged but how that calculation is made I can't say.
As it is my phone is on almost all the time, I use it for all kinds of
things, never have location services on, and rarely have cellular data on
cause I do not have unlimited, and between reading, podcasts, calender, Tune
In, mail, and miscellaneous other apps, the phone has to be charged daily,
sometimes several times a day.
So is the battery in the iphone 6 the same as the 6S and is
it true that there is an advantage to keeping it plugged in all the time?

Deidre

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RE: boosting the volume on music

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That is very helpful, especially the warning about changing the setting to 
boost the volume using up more battery life.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: boosting the volume on music

 

Hi Deidre,

 

In music settings, there is an EQ or equilizer setting in there where you can 
choose from different settings like more bass, more treble, or late night which 
I th'k is the loudest one. The default is off. Remember, that this will have a 
small impact on batery life.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On May 30, 2019, at 6:14 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
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Someone mentioned awhile ago a way to go into settings to boost the volume for 
playing music. I can't remember what that was, does anyone else remember how to 
do it?

 

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boosting the volume on music

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Someone mentioned awhile ago a way to go into settings to boost the volume for 
playing music. I can't remember what that was, does anyone else remember how to 
do it?

 

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

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When I hit on the link 
https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3 

 

 this is what I got. 


This web page could not be loaded.


Due to an internal error, this web page could not be loaded.

We recommend that you close this page.

Return to Outlook   

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RE: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

I meant to write plexiglass. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

Fiber glass won't do you much good as you can not see through it.  On the other 
hand, plexaglass would be fine.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 

Till we speak again,
may the warm winds of Heaven 
blow softly upon your house,
may the great spirit bless all who enter there,
may your moccasins make happy tracks in many snows,
And may the rainbow always touch your shoulder. 

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From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, April 05, 2019 2:30 PM

Subject: RE: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

Other than a piece of clear glass or fiberglass!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

 

Try this link to order the stand. 

You'll need to write Mr. Wardega about the book reading aid; if you are 
interested but it will not help hold down the corners of a single page. Nothing 
does that as far as I know.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6QoSaM55RDnt3gsrrnOMpE_5OM1t5U2jfJ4l5-OLjycGLuw/viewform

 

 

 

 

 

On Apr 5, 2019, at 12:16 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

It was interesting to read the announcement from NFB about KNFB Reader that 
you, or someone else forwarded the list yesterday. The results of this scan are 
indeed the difference between day and night.

I did find that the scan using Scanner benefited greatly from 
the page being as flat as possible, one of the bigger challenges for the kind 
of stuff I typically put down on a variety of surfaces, including flat level 
ones. Pages buckle or curl at the edges and require a weight or a hand to hold 
them flat. 

That brings me around to where to order the Fopydo Stand which 
I swear Amazon used to sell but no longer does. I need that hand to hold papers 
flat.

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: FW: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

OK, below are two pages, the first one scanned with KNFB Reader, so it says 
KNFB before the resulting file contents.

The second one is from Voice Dream Scanner, with VDS before the contents of the 
file.

I did both as PDF documents.

Both were done on the Fopydo Scanning Stand.

This was done in my office room in our house with no lights on, so it was left 
to the apps to deal with lighting.

Both had the flash on.

The phone never moved on the stand and the scans were taken about 1 minute 
apart.

 

You be the judge.

 

KNFB april5.pdf

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Instructions Page 1 - Scanning Stand for the Blind and Visually Impaired 

The stand

RE: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

The link worked just fine. Thank you. I ordered one. It is inexpensive with 
free matter for the blind shipping as well. 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

 

Try this link to order the stand. 

You'll need to write Mr. Wardega about the book reading aid; if you are 
interested but it will not help hold down the corners of a single page. Nothing 
does that as far as I know.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6QoSaM55RDnt3gsrrnOMpE_5OM1t5U2jfJ4l5-OLjycGLuw/viewform

 

 

 

 

 

On Apr 5, 2019, at 12:16 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

It was interesting to read the announcement from NFB about KNFB Reader that 
you, or someone else forwarded the list yesterday. The results of this scan are 
indeed the difference between day and night.

I did find that the scan using Scanner benefited greatly from 
the page being as flat as possible, one of the bigger challenges for the kind 
of stuff I typically put down on a variety of surfaces, including flat level 
ones. Pages buckle or curl at the edges and require a weight or a hand to hold 
them flat. 

That brings me around to where to order the Fopydo Stand which 
I swear Amazon used to sell but no longer does. I need that hand to hold papers 
flat.

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: FW: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

OK, below are two pages, the first one scanned with KNFB Reader, so it says 
KNFB before the resulting file contents.

The second one is from Voice Dream Scanner, with VDS before the contents of the 
file.

I did both as PDF documents.

Both were done on the Fopydo Scanning Stand.

This was done in my office room in our house with no lights on, so it was left 
to the apps to deal with lighting.

Both had the flash on.

The phone never moved on the stand and the scans were taken about 1 minute 
apart.

 

You be the judge.

 

KNFB april5.pdf

1PageInstructions - 

ImpairedVisuaanlldy Blintdhefor  Stand   Scanning  is   standThe visuaalnlyd 
blindtheforspecificallydesigned facIitlitdaetevsicesismimpoiarliarred.

   smartpuhsionngesaloud bookasnddocumenretsading a  andfolded  
deilsiveredstandThe   ReaderK. NFBlike apptext-to-speech of2   pageand
beforereadbe

  shoultdhatinstructionusnfoldingcontains use. firstthethe  place 
stantdhe useTo 

with stantdheof  shelftop theon   device camtehreacenttehreat   cutout   
half-tchirecle  througdhown facing top theof  ledgteheofbetween 
docuthmeentslide

Then,shelf. 

to app the use and  belowwires  supportread 

are  wiretesxt. Support 

and wire  profile sqauaorefconstructed 90in   placeinto clickis   
profilwe ire   Support intervals.degrees positionfolidned  in-outslidteo
designed

   unfinoldedplaicne statyo and 

device mobtihleeof   weigthhet holtdopositionare  wires when 

be exmteanydewdi.res  Support 

by  stantdhe fromextended readfionrg  inc3hetso up
inteorrnatiolneattleUrS  than largerdocuments 

are  wires when  (defasuizlteA4not 

extebneded shouldwiresexteSnudpedp)o.rt 

placedSymmetripcoaslliytionf.olidned only channweilrse  stantdh'sein
cutouts circular 

the andleft the both  extteond allowequalwlyi.re   supporrigt ht 

 

THEOFILL1U: STRATIOPINCTURE STAND   ISSMARUTSPIEHN.ONE THEON   PLACED   
AND SHELTFOP ARE WIRES  SUPPORTEXTENDED DOCUMENRTESADFIONRG SIZE. 

LETUTSER THAN  LARGER

 

 

VDS

Instructions Page 1  april 5.pdf

Instructions Page 1 - Scanning Stand for the Blind and Visually Impaired 

The stand is designed specifically for the blind and visually impaired. It 
facilitates 

reading documents and books aloud using smartphones or similar devices and a 
text-to-speech app like KNFB Reader. The stand is delivered folded and page

2 of 

contains unfolding instructions that should be read before the first use. 

To use the stand place the device on the top shelf of the stand with the camera 

facing down through the half-circle cutout at the center of the ledge of the 
top 

shelf. Then, slide the document between support wires below and use the app to 

read text. 

Support wires are constructed of a square profile wire and click into place in 
90 

degrees intervals. Support wire profile is designed to slide in-out in folded 
position 

and to stay in place in unfolded position to hold the weight of the mobile 
device 

when wires are extended. 

Support wires may be extended from the stand by up to 3 

RE: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Other than a piece of clear glass or fiberglass!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

 

Try this link to order the stand. 

You'll need to write Mr. Wardega about the book reading aid; if you are 
interested but it will not help hold down the corners of a single page. Nothing 
does that as far as I know.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6QoSaM55RDnt3gsrrnOMpE_5OM1t5U2jfJ4l5-OLjycGLuw/viewform

 

 

 

 

 

On Apr 5, 2019, at 12:16 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

It was interesting to read the announcement from NFB about KNFB Reader that 
you, or someone else forwarded the list yesterday. The results of this scan are 
indeed the difference between day and night.

I did find that the scan using Scanner benefited greatly from 
the page being as flat as possible, one of the bigger challenges for the kind 
of stuff I typically put down on a variety of surfaces, including flat level 
ones. Pages buckle or curl at the edges and require a weight or a hand to hold 
them flat. 

That brings me around to where to order the Fopydo Stand which 
I swear Amazon used to sell but no longer does. I need that hand to hold papers 
flat.

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: FW: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

OK, below are two pages, the first one scanned with KNFB Reader, so it says 
KNFB before the resulting file contents.

The second one is from Voice Dream Scanner, with VDS before the contents of the 
file.

I did both as PDF documents.

Both were done on the Fopydo Scanning Stand.

This was done in my office room in our house with no lights on, so it was left 
to the apps to deal with lighting.

Both had the flash on.

The phone never moved on the stand and the scans were taken about 1 minute 
apart.

 

You be the judge.

 

KNFB april5.pdf

1PageInstructions - 

ImpairedVisuaanlldy Blintdhefor  Stand   Scanning  is   standThe visuaalnlyd 
blindtheforspecificallydesigned facIitlitdaetevsicesismimpoiarliarred.

   smartpuhsionngesaloud bookasnddocumenretsading a  andfolded  
deilsiveredstandThe   ReaderK. NFBlike apptext-to-speech of2   pageand
beforereadbe

  shoultdhatinstructionusnfoldingcontains use. firstthethe  place 
stantdhe useTo 

with stantdheof  shelftop theon   device camtehreacenttehreat   cutout   
half-tchirecle  througdhown facing top theof  ledgteheofbetween 
docuthmeentslide

Then,shelf. 

to app the use and  belowwires  supportread 

are  wiretesxt. Support 

and wire  profile sqauaorefconstructed 90in   placeinto clickis   
profilwe ire   Support intervals.degrees positionfolidned  in-outslidteo
designed

   unfinoldedplaicne statyo and 

device mobtihleeof   weigthhet holtdopositionare  wires when 

be exmteanydewdi.res  Support 

by  stantdhe fromextended readfionrg  inc3hetso up
inteorrnatiolneattleUrS  than largerdocuments 

are  wires when  (defasuizlteA4not 

extebneded shouldwiresexteSnudpedp)o.rt 

placedSymmetripcoaslliytionf.olidned only channweilrse  stantdh'sein
cutouts circular 

the andleft the both  extteond allowequalwlyi.re   supporrigt ht 

 

THEOFILL1U: STRATIOPINCTURE STAND   ISSMARUTSPIEHN.ONE THEON   PLACED   
AND SHELTFOP ARE WIRES  SUPPORTEXTENDED DOCUMENRTESADFIONRG SIZE. 

LETUTSER THAN  LARGER

 

 

VDS

Instructions Page 1  april 5.pdf

Instructions Page 1 - Scanning Stand for the Blind and Visually Impaired 

The stand is designed specifically for the blind and visually impaired. It 
facilitates 

reading documents and books aloud using smartphones or similar devices and a 
text-to-speech app like KNFB Reader. The stand is delivered folded and page

2 of 

contains unfolding instructions that should be read before the first use. 

To use the stand place the device on the top shelf of the stand with the camera 

facing down through the half-circle cutout at the center of the ledge of the 
top 

shelf. Then, slide the document between support wires below and use the app to 

read text. 

Support wires are constructed of a square profile wire and click into place in 
90 

degrees intervals. Support wire profile is designed to slide in-out in folded 
position 

and to stay in place in unfolded position to hold the weight of the mobile 
device 

when wires are extended. 

Support wires may be extended from the stand by up to 3 inches for reading 

documents larger than US letter or international A4 size (defaul

RE: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

It was interesting to read the announcement from NFB about KNFB Reader that 
you, or someone else forwarded the list yesterday. The results of this scan are 
indeed the difference between day and night.

I did find that the scan using Scanner benefited greatly from 
the page being as flat as possible, one of the bigger challenges for the kind 
of stuff I typically put down on a variety of surfaces, including flat level 
ones. Pages buckle or curl at the edges and require a weight or a hand to hold 
them flat. 

That brings me around to where to order the Fopydo Stand which 
I swear Amazon used to sell but no longer does. I need that hand to hold papers 
flat.

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: [VoiceDreamProducts] sample of a scan done on the Fopydo Stand 
with KNFB Reader and Voice Dream Scanner

 

OK, below are two pages, the first one scanned with KNFB Reader, so it says 
KNFB before the resulting file contents.

The second one is from Voice Dream Scanner, with VDS before the contents of the 
file.

I did both as PDF documents.

Both were done on the Fopydo Scanning Stand.

This was done in my office room in our house with no lights on, so it was left 
to the apps to deal with lighting.

Both had the flash on.

The phone never moved on the stand and the scans were taken about 1 minute 
apart.

 

You be the judge.

 

KNFB april5.pdf

1PageInstructions - 

ImpairedVisuaanlldy Blintdhefor  Stand   Scanning  is   standThe visuaalnlyd 
blindtheforspecificallydesigned facIitlitdaetevsicesismimpoiarliarred.

   smartpuhsionngesaloud bookasnddocumenretsading a  andfolded  
deilsiveredstandThe   ReaderK. NFBlike apptext-to-speech of2   pageand
beforereadbe

  shoultdhatinstructionusnfoldingcontains use. firstthethe  place 
stantdhe useTo 

with stantdheof  shelftop theon   device camtehreacenttehreat   cutout   
half-tchirecle  througdhown facing top theof  ledgteheofbetween 
docuthmeentslide

Then,shelf. 

to app the use and  belowwires  supportread 

are  wiretesxt. Support 

and wire  profile sqauaorefconstructed 90in   placeinto clickis   
profilwe ire   Support intervals.degrees positionfolidned  in-outslidteo
designed

   unfinoldedplaicne statyo and 

device mobtihleeof   weigthhet holtdopositionare  wires when 

be exmteanydewdi.res  Support 

by  stantdhe fromextended readfionrg  inc3hetso up
inteorrnatiolneattleUrS  than largerdocuments 

are  wires when  (defasuizlteA4not 

extebneded shouldwiresexteSnudpedp)o.rt 

placedSymmetripcoaslliytionf.olidned only channweilrse  stantdh'sein
cutouts circular 

the andleft the both  extteond allowequalwlyi.re   supporrigt ht 

 

THEOFILL1U: STRATIOPINCTURE STAND   ISSMARUTSPIEHN.ONE THEON   PLACED   
AND SHELTFOP ARE WIRES  SUPPORTEXTENDED DOCUMENRTESADFIONRG SIZE. 

LETUTSER THAN  LARGER

 

 

VDS

Instructions Page 1  april 5.pdf

Instructions Page 1 - Scanning Stand for the Blind and Visually Impaired 

The stand is designed specifically for the blind and visually impaired. It 
facilitates 

reading documents and books aloud using smartphones or similar devices and a 
text-to-speech app like KNFB Reader. The stand is delivered folded and page

2 of 

contains unfolding instructions that should be read before the first use. 

To use the stand place the device on the top shelf of the stand with the camera 

facing down through the half-circle cutout at the center of the ledge of the 
top 

shelf. Then, slide the document between support wires below and use the app to 

read text. 

Support wires are constructed of a square profile wire and click into place in 
90 

degrees intervals. Support wire profile is designed to slide in-out in folded 
position 

and to stay in place in unfolded position to hold the weight of the mobile 
device 

when wires are extended. 

Support wires may be extended from the stand by up to 3 inches for reading 

documents larger than US letter or international A4 size (default when wires 
are 

not extended). 

Support wires should be extended only in folded position. Symmetrically placed 

circular cutouts in the stand's wire channels allow to extend both the left and 
the 

right support wire equally. 

 

, 

 

PICTURE 1: ILLUSTRATION OF THE STAND 

IN USE. SMARTPHONE IS PLACED ON THE 

TOP SHELF AND SUPPORT WIRES ARE 

EXTENDED FOR READING DOCUMENTS 

LARGER THAN US LETTER SIZE.

 

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RE: printers

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Whew, what a resource you are Keith. I've got to let this sink in. Thanks for 
the effort you've made here. It's too beautiful out to spend much more time 
sifting through this for a second time.

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith Bierman
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: printers

 

 

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 6:09 AM 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Ugh. Just looking up the Brother printers which Keith recommended was an 
ordeal. Some of the older models don't have proprietary cartridges but others 
do.  

But most have been stable, and there are generic substitutes. For example, our 
5240DN and the 2700DW (12 years younger) take the same consumables 
(toner+fuser). So "proprietary" doesn't have to mean expensive or hard to get. 
Indeed, for the cost per page, the Brother has been exceptionally cheap, as we 
often use aftermarket clones of the proprietary toner, and each toner cartridge 
lasts us more than a year (with our inkjet printers, if we don't print 
regularly, we waste a lot of ink clearing the heads ;<).

 

Accessibility is all over the map, and I'm not in a good position to evaluate 
the various models. The relatively low cost MFC models (typically less than 
$140) would appear to be a bit challenging on the accessibility front. But once 
set up, probably pretty usable for most operations.

 

Scans are as good as originals for most purposes (but I have no idea how one 
would be able to judge in an accessible fashion!). you hadn't mentioned a 
particular weight goal, since you had spoken of printing and scanning, I 
suggested their MFC (multi-function copier) series.

 

As for snapshots, while some of the apps do a fairly acceptable job, it's 
fundamentally harder/less accurate to have to shoot at an angle and correct vs. 
the scanner having a truly flat scan surface. So if you are trying to eliminate 
paper, I'd go with a scanner.

 

if lightweight is critical, something like the Epson WorkForce ES-50 Portable 
Scanner may do the trick.

 

If you have a lot of paper to convert, Epson and Fujitsu make duplex scanners 
(that is, both sides of the page in one go). The Fujitsu ScanSnaps are highly 
rated, but run about $400-500 (new). For full sized paper, these are easier to 
use than flatbeds. However, if you are doing small paper (e.g. receipts) the 
flatbeds may be easier. But before destroying the originals, someone should 
verify that the scan is clear and readable ... and I have no idea how one would 
do that in a properly accessible manner.

 

Book pages are probably most easily captured with a manual scanning device 
(some are pretty inexpensive) but its pretty hard to ensure good results. I've 
got a small vuepoint https://www.vupointsolutions.com/magic-wand which *can* 
produce a good scan, but it takes good hand/eye coordination (and sometimes a 
couple of tries) so I'd rate it as probably a bad bet w.r.t. accessibility.

 

Meanwhile an architect friend says get rid of all paper. digitize everything. 
Are scans really that good or at least snapshots of anything you scan don't 
lie, do they? It's only if you need accurate optical recognition where it gets 
tricky.

Snaps usually can be spotted vs. a scanned image. If the goal is to have it 
look as much like the original as possible ... I'd avoid snaps. 

 

So, do you want/need a combined unit (printing/scanning)? Do you need color 
(print? scan??). Can you get by with only the normal operations being 
accessible? (having an assistant for the less common operations?). Do you have 
a ton of existing paper to convert, or just a document or two infrequently? If 
it's pretty infrequent, using a local Kinkos might not be a bad solution.

 

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RE: Help with podcasts

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Noe
A lot of shows are broadcast live on YouTube and Tune-In Radio. Both can be 
downloaded as Apps from the App store or you could go directly to the shows web 
site. Facebook will also alert you to a particular person's show that is live 
streaming at a certain hour if you want to be alerted that way, or tend to be 
on Facebook a lot. It will provide the link to the live stream.
I no longer bother with downcast or overcast, I just use the native app on my 
phone to see what is available and subscribe. It is perfectly manageable. And, 
as someone already pointed out, podcasts are prerecorded and air at different 
times. 
For instance you can get Fresh Air and Democracy Now the same day they are 
broadcast in your podcast app , but you won't get other shows, like the Rachel 
Maddow show until the next morning or perhaps later that same evening. You 
could however use Tune-In Radio and subscribe for free to MSNBC and live stream 
any show that is on at any hour of the day.


Deidre-Original Message-
From: 'Noe Villeda' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help with podcasts

Thank you, I knew I was missing something.
That makes perfect sense!


On Mar 29, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Michael Malver  wrote:

By definition, podcasts are pre-recorded. There is no listening to a podcast 
live. You might be listening to a podcast based on the radio program. If this 
is the case, then what you want is a program that will stream  the radio 
station or service on which the show is being broadcast.


> On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:38 AM, 'Noe Villeda' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello group,
> I am brand new to podcasting, so I apologize if this seems like a dumb 
> question.
> I am trying to find an accessible app to listen to a podcast as it is being 
> streamed, as well as past episodes.
> Is this possible?
> I have a Overcast, I can find previous episodes of the podcast that I am 
> looking for, but I cannot find a way to actually listen to the show in real 
> time.
> I would appreciate any help and or suggestions.
> Also, as a sidenote, how can I check to make sure that I have the latest 
> firmware on my Apple AirPods?
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RE: printers

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Ugh. Just looking up the Brother printers which Keith recommended was an 
ordeal. Some of the older models don't have proprietary cartridges but others 
do.  Some have touch screens, some scan, some weigh  as much as 22 pounds. That 
sure is not what I am looking for.

Meanwhile an architect friend says get rid of all paper. digitize everything. 
Are scans really that good or at least snapshots of anything you scan don't 
lie, do they? It's only if you need accurate optical recognition where it gets 
tricky.

 

Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith Bierman
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: printers

 

The brother printers (say MFC27xx family) do a good job, have a low cost per 
page and there's an app for "airprint" (generically it's got wifi and hardwire 
ethernet).

 

I rather like Epson for color/photograph printing, but any inkjet costs more 
per page than a "laser" printer, and the inkjets tend to clog if you don't 
print regularly.

We've got more than 12 years from an older brother (5250DN) and the toner 
cartridges are the same for the 2700 (low cost generic replacements work well 
too).

 

Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749

 

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:44 PM 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hey all
I've decided it is time to once more own a printer. I use one so little that
I was happy to get rid of the bulk of the last one, but I am also tired of
asking friends to print things for me. I've also packed up my desktop
scanner and miss that too. 
Funny enough, a few weeks ago I needed a copy of a document emailed to a
government agency and I was able to scan it then email it, a first for me. I
was incredibly pleased that the letter scanned well and was considered just
as legitimate as an original document.
Is a "airprint capable printer" more desirable than a wireless printer?
Would the menus on the phone be just as easy to use as those from a document
on a PC?
I want something streamlined.
I imagine the topic of printers and i Phones has been discussed in
full and exists in archives, but getting into the group through google is
not fun.

Deidre

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printers

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Hey all
I've decided it is time to once more own a printer. I use one so little that
I was happy to get rid of the bulk of the last one, but I am also tired of
asking friends to print things for me. I've also packed up my desktop
scanner and miss that too. 
Funny enough, a few weeks ago I needed a copy of a document emailed to a
government agency and I was able to scan it then email it, a first for me. I
was incredibly pleased that the letter scanned well and was considered just
as legitimate as an original document.
Is a "airprint capable printer" more desirable than a wireless printer?
Would the menus on the phone be just as easy to use as those from a document
on a PC?
I want something streamlined.
I imagine the topic of printers and i Phones has been discussed in
full and exists in archives, but getting into the group through google is
not fun.

Deidre

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