Two questions about text messages.

[Carolyn]

1.  Can I delete all of my messages en bloc? If so how?

2.  Is there a way to block a message sender? 

 

Thanks. I have tried to figure these out, but have not done
so. 

 

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RE: Two questions about text messages.

[Carolyn]

Thanks, finally, I got all of them out - got some junk ones, had 19. 

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:07 PM
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I wish there were a way to block one without having to block both. I get 
messages from an automated service that calls and texts, I only want the texts. 
They don't seem to know how to stop the calls without stopping both, I'll bet 
there is a way  to do this on their end when I get to the right person. 
Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 2, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


 

I am not aware of any way to delete all messages at once.  You have to delete 
conversation by conversation.

 

As for blocking texters, yes you can.

 

Open the text message.

At the top, do a one finger double tap and hold, or a one finger triple tap to 
bring up the context menu.

Find the info button and double tap.

There may or may not be another Info button, but if there is double tap on it.  
If there isn’t, try bringing up the context menu again on the phone number.

At one point, you will find the same options as when you bring up the context 
menu on a recent phone call, things like call, message, share location, add to 
contacts, create new, and finally at the end Block this caller.

Double tap on that, then find the block contact button and double tap again and 
now they are added to your blocked callers list.

This blocks that number from calling or texting.

 

I wish it was as straight forward as blocking a recent phone call.  

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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Subject: Two questions about text messages.

 

1.  Can I delete all of my messages en bloc? If so how?
2.  Is there a way to block a message sender? 

 

Thanks. I have tried to figure these out, but have not done so. 

 

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RE: cell phones O.K.

[Carolyn]

I use Samantha too, Joseph, as well as the default Siri voice. And, you know 
that I also am in the US. 

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Are you Samantha all the way. And I am in the US.

> On Sep 2, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
>So I want to know this, for those of you in other countries, 
> what voiceover voice do you use? What is the default on your phones?  I’ve 
> noticed the U.K. voices as well as a couple Australian voices. 
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RE: cell phones O.K.

[Carolyn]

I have lost about half my hearing, so I avoid accents of any kind. 

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I have never understood why people like Samantha.  To me, she is totally 
boring.  There are so many much better voice over voices to choose from.  I 
periodically change both my voice over voice, and my Siri voice.  I currently 
have the female Irish Siri voice as my voice over voice and the male Siri voice 
as my Siri voice.  I like the British Kate voice very much.  Australian Lee and 
Karen are also very good.  I don't like UK Daniel at all.  Alex is also good at 
times.  So is Tom.  Tessa from South Africa isn't bad either.

On 9/2/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> I use Samantha too, Joseph, as well as the default Siri voice. And, 
> you know that I also am in the US.
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> Are you Samantha all the way. And I am in the US.
>
>> On Sep 2, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>>
>>So I want to know this, for those of you in other 
>> countries, what voiceover voice do you use? What is the default on 
>> your phones?  I’ve noticed the U.K. voices as well as a couple 
>> Australian voices.
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RE: Two questions about text messages.

[Carolyn]

That sounds easy enough; I'll save this. 

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David Whitehead
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions about text messages.

Block messages from a specific person or number

 

1. In a Message conversation, tap the name or number at the top of the 
conversation, then tap. at the top right. 

2. Tap info. 

3. Scroll down, then tap Block this Caller.

 

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201229

 

   The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a 
dream.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions about text messages.

 

I think there is a way of blocking a sender but have never needed to do it so 
can’t say how. Maybe try opening the message, then swiping up or down to see 
what the options are (it may be under more).

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: 03 September 2021 02:55
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions about text messages.

 

I don’t know about blocking a message sender,

 

But you can delete bulk messages by going in to messages,

Clicking on the edit button at the very top left,

 

Then select 

Select messages,

 

Then go through  and select each message you wish to delete,

Note this doesn’t have to be every message,

 

And then right at the very bottom of the screen or page is a delete,

Or if you wanted the other side,

There is a read all just above it.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Friday, 3 September 2021 1:52 am
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Subject: Two questions about text messages.

 

1.  Can I delete all of my messages en bloc? If so how?
2.  Is there a way to block a message sender? 

 

Thanks. I have tried to figure these out, but have not done so. 

 

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RE: cell phones O.K.

[Carolyn]

I like human voices way better, and think Siri and Samantha sound way more 
human than Eloquence, which I have with JAWS. 

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I do agree with you about eloquence.  I have used it all my life.  It would be 
very cool if we could get it on the iPhone.

On 9/3/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> TTS voices are extremely subjective, some like the most human sounding 
> voice possible and others couldn't care less and want whatever can be 
> understood the best when it talks fast.
> If I could get Eloquence on the iPhone I'd be a happy camper, I use it 
> on my PC and have little or no use for any of the other voices. For me 
> the TTS is a tool, it doesn't have to sound like a human, it has to be 
> able to read me the information I need accurately and fast and there 
> are few voices better than Eloquence for that purpose.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 3, 2021 7:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: cell phones O.K.
>
> I have lost about half my hearing, so I avoid accents of any kind.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 8:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: cell phones O.K.
>
> I have never understood why people like Samantha.  To me, she is 
> totally boring.  There are so many much better voice over voices to 
> choose from.  I periodically change both my voice over voice, and my 
> Siri voice.  I currently have the female Irish Siri voice as my voice 
> over voice and the male Siri voice as my Siri voice.  I like the British Kate 
> voice very much.
> Australian Lee and Karen are also very good.  I don't like UK Daniel at all.
>  Alex is also good at times.  So is Tom.  Tessa from South Africa 
> isn't bad either.
>
> On 9/2/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> I use Samantha too, Joseph, as well as the default Siri voice. And, 
>> you know that I also am in the US.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 5:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: cell phones O.K.
>>
>> Are you Samantha all the way. And I am in the US.
>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Star Gazer 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>So I want to know this, for those of you in other 
>>> countries, what voiceover voice do you use? What is the default on 
>>> your phones?  I’ve noticed the U.K. voices as well as a couple 
>>> Australian voices.
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RE: landline or mobile phone/handy.

[Carolyn]

I second you, Allison, plus, every morning, first thing, I check the weather, 
sunrise and sunset, barometer, all that good stuff. 

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I remember well my first mobile phone. I think I bought it about 30 years ago 
and it was a Nokia, the size of a brick with no speech and no apps. My current 
iPhone bears no comparison. 

 

So, why do I prefer my iPhone over my landline?

1.  It is always close at hand.
2.  As I’ve set different ring tones for friends and family,  I always know 
who is calling;
3.  With the package I have, all texts, e-mails, data downloads and calls 
are included, regardless of length;
4.  I can quickly find the contact details of those I wish to call without 
having to go in search of my address book;
5.  I can check my e-mails without having to go off into another room to 
access my computer;
6.  I can make video calls if I so wish;
7.  And then there are all the other apps that come with it, of course.

 

So, are there occasions when I prefer my landline? I can only think of one, and 
that is when I need to dial an unfamiliar number; it is easier to press buttons 
than it is to slide around on a flat screen in search of the numbers.

 

So, what about anyone else? Which do you prefer, and why?

alison  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:41
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

 

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million

The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers

That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.

Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.

All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
  wro

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Carolyn]

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in Canada 

  stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.

Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds worldwide 

 , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

 

Here is the link to that website:

Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts 
 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day,

RE: Two questions about text messages.

[Carolyn]

Thanks for that one. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viPhone 📩 
Subject: Re: Two questions about text messages.

An alternative to the above (correct) solutions is as follows:

1) Open “Settings”
2) Locate and select “Phone”
3) In the resulting dialog find “Block Callers” and select it.
4) At the top of this resulting dialog you should encounter an “Add” button, 
select that button.
5) Look for the resulting edit box and type in the “offending” phone number.

NOTE: This will block calls as well as texts from that number.


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RE: Is there a way to get recent calls on an iPhone in a more permanent way?

[Carolyn]

Each recent call has a time, and I think date too on it. 

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Subject: Re: Is there a way to get recent calls on an iPhone in a more 
permanent way?

You can request a paper copy of all calls to your number for each month for as 
long as you need the info. I say print copy, because I can't read braille yet. 
There is a charge. This type of info would be more acceptable in a court 
setting if needed.

Donna



On Sep 3, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:



 

Hi.

 

A few days ago, I received some calls. They’re from different numbers, 
but they all concern the same thing. I’m starting to put pieces together, and 
I’m beginning to think I might want a permanent record of these numbers and the 
time and date stamp on them. Is there a way to do this from recent calls? I’d 
like to do this sooner than later, because they’ll eventually drop out of there.

 

Just wondering.

 

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RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Carolyn]

Oh, I charge my phone a lot and talk o it or use it by using wired earbuds. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. Allegedly, 
it is compatible with wireless charging.  

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


 

This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know it 
will work with some cases, not others. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
stand/cradle instead of a pad.

A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.

If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe not 
45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in my 
living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super easy 
to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone in 
the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.

 

There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine and 
that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough for 
your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section of 
the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging pad 
to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the higher 
edges of the box holding the phone in place.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
charger. 

Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.

So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info again 
on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

 

On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

 

I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while 
using the wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a 
couple years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a 
supported device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I 
guess, the thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear 
via my earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that connects to 
my power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such device and 
haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the warning I used t

RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Carolyn]

Yes I put mine on a wireless charger, but if I want to use it for any reason, I 
can use my earbuds. The earbuds work better for phone calls rather than for 
checking weather, messages, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Hey Arnold; when you use wired AirPods if you could if you have it just use a 
MagSafe charger. I useit all the time and it works well.  Hope this helps  
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:




Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. 
Allegedly, it is compatible with wireless charging.  

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


 

This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I 
know it will work with some cases, not others. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless 
charging stand/cradle instead of a pad.

A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass 
in size and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have 
which I think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 
11 on each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.

If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, 
maybe not 45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use 
in my living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super 
easy to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone 
in the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.

 

There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work 
fine and that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big 
enough for your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a 
section of the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the 
charging pad to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have 
the higher edges of the box holding the phone in place.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive 
wireless charger. 

Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, 
I'd go that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.

So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the 
info again on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading ca

RE: keeping track of which books are on which app

[Carolyn]

Could you keep a list of books you have in notes? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping track of which books are on which app

I would either add a column for to be read books and note which app they are 
on. 



Richard
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Jane Wagner 
  






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On Sep 9, 2021, at 7:59 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:



 

Hi,

Probably my favorite reason for having an iPhone  is the plethora of 
accessible books  across so many apps.  Of course, that also means that I have 
books in various apps and I’m now finding that I can easily  lose track of 
where a  book is.  To be more specific, I have Audible, Kindle, Voice Dream 
Reader, Christian Audio, Chirp  and BARD.  I’ve occasionally found that I’ve 
almost purchased a book in Audible,  forgetting that I had already found it on 
BARD.  Or, I download a book someone recommends to me or that I find on sale, 
then forget which app it’s in.   Some of  you talk about having hundreds of 
books on your phone.  Anyone found any great ways to keep track of what you 
have downloaded?   I will say that I’m not one to keep a book on my device once 
I’ve read it. I keep an Excel spreadsheet with books I’ve read and what I 
thought of them, and recently added a note as to which app I read it on, but 
this doesn’t help me with books I have yet to read.Just interested if 
anyone has any great ideas on ways to link everything into one list or 
something.

 

Robin with an iPhone SE 2020



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RE: checking where your contacts are?

[Carolyn]

At the bottom of my Contacts is Block Contact. Still, I did not find elsewhere, 
where my Contacts are. 

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Joseph Hudson
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: checking where your contacts are?

Janet, normally, they don't get save to the Sim card. They're normally either 
safe to iCloud or a Google account or a Outlook account. To check with their 
going, you can go to settings,/contacts. Then your swipe all the way down to 
the bottom, and you'll hear something that says default account, and mine says 
iCloud.

> On Sep 12, 2021, at 11:56 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> please could someone tell me how to check if your contacts are on your cym 
> card or on your phone.  reason for question is that I may be changing my 
> phone provider but want to keep the same phone and number.  Janet
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RE: checking where your contacts are?

[Carolyn]

I never found iCloud or Default. 

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Star Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: checking where your contacts are?

What is the difference between default account and Icloud? 
Somehow my phone picked up a bunch of contacts that I don't care about, I 
suspect it ported over from either the default or the Icloud account. I'd like 
to know how I know what it did, and what the difference is between Icloud and 
default? 

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Hudson
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: checking where your contacts are?

Janet, normally, they don't get save to the Sim card. They're normally either 
safe to iCloud or a Google account or a Outlook account. To check with their 
going, you can go to settings,/contacts. Then your swipe all the way down to 
the bottom, and you'll hear something that says default account, and mine says 
iCloud.

> On Sep 12, 2021, at 11:56 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> please could someone tell me how to check if your contacts are on your cym 
> card or on your phone.  reason for question is that I may be changing my 
> phone provider but want to keep the same phone and number.  Janet
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RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

Mich, if I were you, I would get the least expensive phone I could find that 
would operate on 5G. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mich Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still 
are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Hi all. I just am wondering I am running the I phone 8 and now that the apple 
event is over what about those of us who are running older phones like that? I 
have been thinking of upgrading for a while but am not shure witch phone I 
should upgrade to? Since beaing that I am blind I don’t really cair that much 
about the camra and stuff except when it comes to doing things like ocr and 
stuff I just was wondering the groups thoughts? My phone is still running good 
and vo is still working as it should I just was wondering about the groups 
thoughts. Btw I am in Ontario Canada if that helps so some of the things like 
the us carriers wouldn’t really apply to my situation. I got this phone back in 
2019 and we are now in 2021. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario 
Canada. 

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RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I think 3G dies in February, at least here in the US. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

No wine yet, just unveiling my ignorance about all the cell network stuff.

I don’t know when 4G was added to the mix and just know that 3G is coming very 
close to its end.

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Richard, have you already started in on the wine? Of course the iPhone 8 
supports 4G/LTE. Even my first iPhone 4 in 2010 supported LTE at least I am 
almost sure and definitely the 4S did in 2011. And it will be a very long time 
before 4G/LTE gives way to 5G by which I mean it will be a long time until only 
5G is available although I have a feeling that maybe 4G will hang on for a 
shorter time than 3G has been hanging on at least here in North America, Europe 
and countries like Australia and New Zealand. Once 5G really kicks off and is 
available nation wide there will be no going back. But for now even that is not 
of much concern where Mich lives which is in northern Ontario if I am not 
mistaken, I am in Northern British Columbia and while 5G may be available in 
Vancouver, Toronto and other large cities, it sure is nowhere in sight yet here.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 14, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I would check the issue of 3G going away.

Does your phone support 4G?

If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.

 

If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 3G support will 
stop.

 

Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or because of the 
battery life, etc.

It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still 
are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Hi all. I just am wondering I am running the I phone 8 and now that the apple 
event is over what about those of us who are running older phones like that? I 
have been thinking of upgrading for a while but am not shure witch phone I 
should upgrade to? Since beaing that I am blind I don’t really cair that much 
about the camra and stuff except when it comes to doing things like ocr and 
stuff I just was wondering the groups thoughts? My phone is still running good 
and vo is still working as it should I just was wondering about the groups 
thoughts. Btw I am in Ontario Canada if that helps so some of the things like 
the us carriers wouldn’t really apply to my situation. I got this phone back in 
2019 and we are now in 2021. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario 
Canada. 

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RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I would say they did a very smart thing. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Yeah and some of the most well covered countries for cellular connectivity are 
those some would call third world countries in the middle of Africa,

 

Because they took all the old tech from countries like the USA UK 

Etc all that have money to upgrade,

 

And implemented mobile networks at very low cost for the users,

 

But because the technology is older 

They have higher mobile coverage.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:59 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

It may be coming to an end in our rich countries, but possibly not in many 
other parts of the world. When I was in Thailand in 2013 I often still showed 
Edge as my connection which basically was 2G, granted that is now 8 years ago, 
but in the Philippines you often only get 3G and that is even in places in and 
around Manila, a metro area of over 14 Million people.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

No wine yet, just unveiling my ignorance about all the cell network stuff.

I don’t know when 4G was added to the mix and just know that 3G is coming very 
close to its end.

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Richard, have you already started in on the wine? Of course the iPhone 8 
supports 4G/LTE. Even my first iPhone 4 in 2010 supported LTE at least I am 
almost sure and definitely the 4S did in 2011. And it will be a very long time 
before 4G/LTE gives way to 5G by which I mean it will be a long time until only 
5G is available although I have a feeling that maybe 4G will hang on for a 
shorter time than 3G has been hanging on at least here in North America, Europe 
and countries like Australia and New Zealand. Once 5G really kicks off and is 
available nation wide there will be no going back. But for now even that is not 
of much concern where Mich lives which is in northern Ontario if I am not 
mistaken, I am in Northern British Columbia and while 5G may be available in 
Vancouver, Toronto and other large cities, it sure is nowhere in sight yet here.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 14, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I would check the issue of 3G going away.

Does your phone support 4G?

If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.

 

If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 3G support will 
stop.

 

Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or because of the 
battery life, etc.

It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what about 

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could offer the choice 
of touch or facial ID makes me a little more patient. Too, by then, I will be 
moved, and it will be easier for my daughter-in-love to take me to phone 
stores, where I might change back to Verizon. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Sieghard

 

You are such a retail man,

Sell sell sell,

 

But I have to admit,

 

I would like a new phone,

I don’t need a new phone,

As I’ve got an 11 pro max,

 

But I love spending money!

 

If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to see what would be 
useful here in NZ,

 

But my camping days seem to be over and we don’t get the cold temps you guys get

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I totally think I t's fine for people to hold on to older phones, but at the 
same time I am not a big advocate for spending money on phones like the iPhone 
6 or even the 7 or 8. Instead of spending $79 for a new battery you could have 
probably sold it for $79 and used the $160 towards a newer phone which supports 
the latest version of iOS. Just my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I just got a new battery for my iPhone six. I ended up paying $79 for the new 
battery.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I would check the issue of 3G going away.

Does your phone support 4G?

If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.

 

If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 3G 
support will stop.

 

Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or 
because of the battery life, etc.

It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us 
who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Hi all. I just am wondering I am running the I phone 8 and now that the 
apple event is over what about those of us who are running older phones like 
that? I have been thinking of upgrading for a while but am not shure witch 
phone I should upgrade to? Since beaing that I am blind I don’t really cair 
that much about the camra and stuff except when it comes to doing things like 
ocr and stuff I just was wondering the groups thoughts? My phone is still 
running good and vo is still working as it should I just was wondering about 
the groups thoughts. Btw I am in Ontario Canada if that helps so some of the 
things like the us carriers wouldn’t really apply to my situation. I got this 
phone back in 2019 and we are now in 2021. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada. 

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RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I vote for that, as long as I don't have a Home Button again. I'd rather not go 
back to that, but if I had to, I guess I could get used to it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Yeah Carolyn,

I'm kind of in the same mindset,

But it doesn't matter what you do today,

We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,

But hey,
Face and touch id under screen would be nice.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could offer the choice 
of touch or facial ID makes me a little more patient. Too, by then, I will be 
moved, and it will be easier for my daughter-in-love to take me to phone 
stores, where I might change back to Verizon. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Sieghard

 

You are such a retail man,

Sell sell sell,

 

But I have to admit,

 

I would like a new phone,

I don’t need a new phone,

As I’ve got an 11 pro max,

 

But I love spending money!

 

If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to see what would be 
useful here in NZ,

 

But my camping days seem to be over and we don’t get the cold temps you guys get

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I totally think I t's fine for people to hold on to older phones, but at the 
same time I am not a big advocate for spending money on phones like the iPhone 
6 or even the 7 or 8. Instead of spending $79 for a new battery you could have 
probably sold it for $79 and used the $160 towards a newer phone which supports 
the latest version of iOS. Just my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I just got a new battery for my iPhone six. I ended up paying $79 for the new 
battery.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I would check the issue of 3G going away.

Does your phone support 4G?

If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.

 

If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 3G 
support will stop.

 

Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or 
because of the battery life, etc.

It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us 
who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Hi all. I just am wondering I am running the I phone 8 and now that the 
apple event is over what about those of us who are running older phones like 
that? I have been thinking of upgrading for a while but am not shure witch 
phone I should upgrade to? Since beaing that I am blind I don’t really cair 
that much about the camra and stuff except when it comes to doing things like 
ocr and stuff I just was wondering the groups thoughts? My phone is still 
running good and vo is still working as it should I just was wondering about 
the groups thoughts. Btw I am in Ontario Canada

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com  
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > escribió:

 

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from 
past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new 
phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I never got Apple Care. Think of the money I've saved over the years! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple care, so when I 
need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have had my iPhone 8 for just 
over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an iPhone 11 pro with 512 gigs of 
storage when I had the chance.  I will wait for the iPhone 14.  It will give me 
a chance to keep saving up money so I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 
outright with no contract to worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 
gig iPhone 8, if I hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let 
you sync your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Yeah Carolyn,
>
> I'm kind of in the same mindset,
>
> But it doesn't matter what you do today,
>
> We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,
>
> But hey,
> Face and touch id under screen would be nice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
> I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could offer 
> the choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more patient. Too, 
> by then, I will be moved, and it will be easier for my 
> daughter-in-love to take me to phone stores, where I might change back to 
> Verizon.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> You are such a retail man,
>
> Sell sell sell,
>
>
>
> But I have to admit,
>
>
>
> I would like a new phone,
>
> I don’t need a new phone,
>
> As I’ve got an 11 pro max,
>
>
>
> But I love spending money!
>
>
>
> If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to see what 
> would be useful here in NZ,
>
>
>
> But my camping days seem to be over and we don’t get the cold temps 
> you guys get
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:51 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
>
>
> I totally think I t's fine for people to hold on to older phones, but 
> at the same time I am not a big advocate for spending money on phones 
> like the iPhone 6 or even the 7 or 8. Instead of spending $79 for a 
> new battery you could have probably sold it for $79 and used the $160 
> towards a newer phone which supports the latest version of iOS. Just my 
> opinion.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Michael Irons
> Sent: September 14, 2021 2:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
>
>
> I just got a new battery for my iPhone six. I ended up paying $79 for 
> the new battery.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
>   I would check the issue of 3G going away.
>
>   Does your phone support 4G?
>
>   If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.
>
>   
>
>   If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 3G 
> support will stop.
>
>   
>
>   Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or 
> because of the battery life, etc.
>
>   It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   Richard
>
>   “Reality is the leading caus

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

Right, Richard about Apple Care. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Josh, is that $10 per month through your carrier? 
Apple Care is only a one year extension on the waranty on a new phone.
Some carriers offer a protection plan that goes longer and costs a lot more 
when you add it up over time.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 
  






website:  www.turner42.com



On Sep 14, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  
wrote:



My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I will wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving up money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig iPhone 8, if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
    

Yeah Carolyn,





I'm kind of in the same mindset,





But it doesn't matter what you do today,





We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,





But hey,


Face and touch id under screen would be nice.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of
    

Carolyn


Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us


who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
phone 8.





I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could 
offer the


choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more patient. 
Too, by then, I


will be moved, and it will be easier for my daughter-in-love to 
take me to


phone stores, where I might change back to Verizon.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf


Of Simon A Fogarty


Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us


who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
phone 8.





Sieghard











You are such a retail man,





Sell sell sell,











But I have to admit,











I would like a new phone,





I don’t need a new phone,





As I’ve got an 11 pro max,











But I love spending money!











If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to 
see what wo

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

Actually, Diane, I like it way better than a Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it. Those 
who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of switching over and 
not have the home button. It’s just a matter of sliding up or down to get what 
you need to get to and it has the haptics so you will know where you’re at. 
It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.


Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
 wrote:




Hi, Everyone,

I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, but I 
like the home button and the phone's sound.

Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco  
wrote:



Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a zipper 
pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything larger.  If I was to 
get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.


My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have 
had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an 
iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I will 
wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving up 
money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no 
contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig iPhone 8, 
if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let 
you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Yeah Carolyn,





I'm kind of in the same mindset,





But it doesn't matter what you do today,





We all know that there will be something better out 
tomorrow,





But hey,


Face and touch id under screen would be nice.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of


Carolyn


Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what 
about those of us


who still are running the older phones? I am running 
the i phone 8.





I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 
14 could offer the


choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more 
patient. Too, by then, I


will be moved, and it will be easier for my 
daughter-in-love to take me to


phone stores, where I might change back to Verizon.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
   

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I hold my phone in my left hand and do gestures with the right, but am 
fortunate enough not to have any problems with my hands. However, I do not 
think I could hold my phone in the same hand that I was using for gestures. I 
don't use Siri all that much. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Diane, I will say, I've tried those wipes, and they're almost impossible for a 
person to do with one hand. Cuz there are some cases where I have to hold the 
phone, in the same hand that I'm doing the gesture with. I don't have that much 
strength in my right hand. So that's why I prefer the phones with the home 
button. And believe me me, I've tried it on my mom's 11.


On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 7:22 PM Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct 
it. Those who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of switching 
over and not have the home button. It’s just a matter of sliding up or down to 
get what you need to get to and it has the haptics so you will know where 
you’re at. It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.


Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:



Hi, Everyone,

I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger 
phone, but I like the home button and the phone's sound.

Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote:



Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it 
to do.  I like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a 
zipper pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything larger.  If I 
was to get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what 
about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
phone 8.


My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month 
for apple care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing. 
 I have had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not 
getting an iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I 
will wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving 
up money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no 
contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig 
iPhone 8, if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS 
would let you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:


Yeah Carolyn,





I'm kind of in the same mindset,





But it doesn't matter what you do today,





We all know that there will be something better 
out tomorrow,





But hey,


Face and touch id under screen would be nice.





-Original Message-
  

RE: now that the apple event is finished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I see it exactly as you do, Christopher. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

I definitely agree that people should go with what they want and what works for 
them. My own experience is that my personal iPhone is a iPhone 11 and the 
iPhone my employer gave me is an iPhone 7. As I move back and forth between the 
two, I definitely now prefer a phone without the home button. I prefer the 
extra real estate, which I think helps with braille input. When I’m grabbing my 
iPhone 7, I’m constantly sliding up from the bottom or top and getting 
frustrated that I’m not getting to my home page, app switcher , … I suppose you 
could have a home button on the back or the side of the phone, which could give 
you the best of both worlds. Even though I’m OK with giving up the home button, 
I do miss touch ID. I’m OK with face ID, but there are just times I want to 
unlock my phone without having to stick it in my face.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it. Those 
who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of switching over and 
not have the home button. It’s just a matter of sliding up or down to get what 
you need to get to and it has the haptics so you will know where you’re at. 
It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

Hi, Everyone,

 

I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, but I 
like the home button and the phone's sound.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote:

Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a zipper 
pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything larger.  If I was to 
get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.


My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have 
had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an 
iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I will 
wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving up 
money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no 
contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig iPhone 8, 
if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let 
you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:



Yeah Carolyn,

 

I'm kind of in the same mindset,

 

But it doesn't matter what you do today,

 

We all know that there will be something better out 
tomorrow,

 

But hey,

Face and touch id under screen would be nice.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of

Carolyn

Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

My settings keep telling me that the option for Apple Care expires in three 
days - has said that since a month after I got this phone, which was January of 
2020. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Thanks for the explanation.  That is new to me.
I will look into that for future reference.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Richard.  The extended apple care is through apple not my carier which is 
Verizon.  What happened was when my apple care expired on June 7 of this year.  
I had paid $200 for the past 2 years.  After it expired, I went to settings 
under my name and under apple care, a message came up.  It said that I had 30 
days from when my apple care expired to pay for apple care if I wanted.  There 
were different options, and I chose the $10 per month option.  I can cancel at 
any time, however, I need to be aware, that if I do cancel that is it, and I 
wouldn't have apple care any more.  I'll pay the $10 per now, but if I get a 
new iPhone, I could either continue to pay for the apple care on my olde 
iPhone, or stop.

On 9/14/21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> I am sorry if I imply that people were afraid,J just in case Those 
> that may be, was trying to say not to be. Yes, I told him that 
> everyone has a right to their own opinions and I’m not trying to persuade one 
> way or the other.
> Just expressing mine. Sorry if there was confusion about that
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I'm not afraid of anything. I am expressing a preference.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Diane Giannetti
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
>> of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>>
>> Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it.
>> Those who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of 
>> switching over and not have the home button. It’s just a matter of 
>> sliding up or down to get what you need to get to and it has the 
>> haptics so you will know where you’re at. It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.
>>
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Everyone,
>>>
>>> I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, but 
>>> I like the home button and the phone's sound.
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
>>>> like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a 
>>>> zipper pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything 
>>>> larger.  If I was to get another phone, it would be the SE2020.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson"
>>>> 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
>>>> of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
>>>> care, so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I 
>>>> have had my iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not 
>>>> getting an iPhone 11 pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the 
>>>> chance.  I will wait for the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance 
>>>> to keep saving up money so I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 
>>>> outright with no contract 

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

phone 8.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
>>>> care, so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I 
>>>> have had my iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not 
>>>> getting an iPhone 11 pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the 
>>>> chance.  I will wait for the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance 
>>>> to keep saving up money so I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 
>>>> outright with no contract to worry about.  I'd have plenty of space 
>>>> on my 256 gig iPhone 8, if I hadn't filled it up with audio books.
>>>> If only NLS would let you sync your bard books from one phone to another 
>>>> via iCloud.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>>>> Yeah Carolyn,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm kind of in the same mindset,
>>>>>
>>>>> But it doesn't matter what you do today,
>>>>>
>>>>> We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,
>>>>>
>>>>> But hey,
>>>>> Face and touch id under screen would be nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Carolyn
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could 
>>>>> offer the choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more 
>>>>> patient. Too, by then, I will be moved, and it will be easier for 
>>>>> my daughter-in-love to take me to phone stores, where I might 
>>>>> change back to Verizon.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are such a retail man,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sell sell sell,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I have to admit,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like a new phone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t need a new phone,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I’ve got an 11 pro max,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I love spending money!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to see 
>>>>> what would be useful here in NZ,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But my camping days seem to be over and we don’t get the cold 
>>>>> temps you guys get
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:51 am
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I totally think I t's fine for people to hold on to older phones, 
>>>>> but at the same time I am not a big advocate for spending money on 
>>>>> phones like the iPhone 6 or even the 7 or 8. Instead of spending
>>>>> $79 for a new battery you could have probably sold it for $79 and 
>>>>> used the $160 towards a newer phone which supports the latest 
>>>>> version of iOS. Just my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I have a turquoise case for my black 11. Back when I had a rose gold phone, I 
had a transparent case. I do like colored phones - would like to have white, 
gold, or silver next go, if it is available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
 first day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
 safe to count on the 24th at the latest.




 Richard
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
 mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
 exact date.
 I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
 time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
 potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
 device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
 verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
 15 before I upgrade.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Se

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I would not want a red phone. I remember, when I had partial sight, and my aunt 
and uncle had a red on on their wall. This was in the 50's, when colored phones 
were not common, but I did not like the look of that red phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Yeah I spoke to apple about the s7 watch yesterday,

I asked what the star light colour was and she said that it's a cream type 
colour A combination between gold and silver.

Which is what Richard said yesterday.

Again a colour to attract the Asian / Chinese market who like the bling colours.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
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>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

LOL, Seigard. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, 
maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 🤣

And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

 

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

 

All the best

Angie

 

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote:

> 

> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.

> 

> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:

>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.

>> 

>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.

>> 

>> All the best

>> Angie

>> 

>> 

>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> 
>>> > wrote:

>>> 

>>> Hello Everyone,

>>> 

>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

>>> 

>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 

>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.

>>> 

>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 

>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 

>>> more year (smile).

>>> 

>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 

>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 

>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!

>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).

>>> 

>>> Mark

>>> 

>>> 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Carolyn,
IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a light 
Sky Blue...





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

They will go away in spring 2022? My problem is between a 13 mini and a 14, if 
a 14 might have fingerprint ID. Of course, I'm living without fingerprint, but 
this is way sooner than I wanted to replace my 11 that I bought in January of 
2020. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms almost 
nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system for the 14, 
increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12.  They do not want to put 
resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a phone that is just five 
percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a mini, like I do, run and get the 
deals this fall for the 13 mini. The deals will go away in spring 2022.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> LOL, Seigard.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour 
> brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the 
> best term 🤣
>
> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny 
> chocolate brown phone would be fine.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if 
> this is official or a rumour.
>
>
>
> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course 
> it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon > <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote:
>
>>
>
>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini 
>> pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does 
>> better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing 
>> with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle the 
>> daily demand users put on it.
>
>>
>
>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>
>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some 
>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini 
>>> came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I 
>>> had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon.
>
>>>
>
>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on 
>>> Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The 
>>> weird, supernatural etc.
>
>>>
>
>>> All the best
>
>>> Angie
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote:
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do 
>>>> not
>
>>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of 
>>>> the season.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a
>
>>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for 
>>>> one
>
>>>> more year (smile).
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not 
>>>> relish
>
>>>> the idea of using any kind of device with t

RE: adapter question

[Carolyn]

My Apple earbuds have a microphone on them. I use them for phone conversations 
all the time, when the conversation is going to be long. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter question

Interesting Alan,
Actually, I don't have a headphone with a lightning plug, but this 
configuration would work in the event that I needed to charge my phone while 
using the Mic.  I assume you can also get an adapter with a lightning port and 
a 3.5 MM female jack to plug a headphone in to as well?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


- Original Message - 
From: Alan Lemly   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:09 PM
Subject: RE: adapter question



Kay,

 

So now that we have all the details, it sounds like you want an adapter 
with two lightning ports into which you can plug both a lightning microphone 
and a lightning headset. The Belkin Rockstar is an adapter with two lightning 
female ports with about a 2 inch cable and a male lightning connector. I know 
this cable will allow you to both charge with one of the ports and do something 
else with the other port but I’m not sure both the microphone and headset would 
work when plugged into it. Since the Rockstar costs about $40, you should make 
sure what you intend to do will work.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter question

 

Yes, I probably should have been more clear.  I would like to use the 
mic when I am using headphones and if I am using headphones  they would be 
taking up the lightning plug, thus I would need one on the adapter with the 
headphone jack.  Kind of like what you might use if you were charging the phone 
wile using the headphone jack.  I hope this makes more sense.  By the way, 
thanks much for the link.  I'll have a look at it right away.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: adapter question

 

Hi Kay,

Doesn't the Zoom mic fit in the Mini Lightning port?

Anyway here is the link to the adapter that will let you use 
the standard 3.5 MM headphone plugto the lightning port on the Mini. 

Lightning to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter

 

https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MMX62AM/A







 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 





On Sep 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 The microphone had a lightning plug on it. If you say 
you can buy it through Apple, I hate to sound like an idiot but where do I go 
to do this? That is about as cheap as I have seen or heard of. And I wouldn’t 
mind grabbing one. Thanks a bunch for coming back with the answer to this.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:35 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 If you are talking just the 3.5 MM to lightning, the 
one Apple sells for about $9 is the best I've seen. 

What plug is on your Zoom mic?

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who 
are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

What is LIDAR. Is it an app to download or something else? 

I am asking, because recently I had an email from AT&T saying I was due an 
upgrade. 

As far an upgrade, if I could get it now, I would want the 13 mini. If I am 
only eligible for a 12 and wait, I am wondering if I switch from post to 
prepay, if that would have an adverse effect on my eligibility for upgrade in a 
few months. 

Incidentally, I want Starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super 
LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look 
forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better 
phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came 
out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three 
generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also 
possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones 
rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it 
really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I 
won't have to upgrade again for a number of years.

 

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote:

I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. 
We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and 
does everything I need.

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
> 
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
have
> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
season.
> 
> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
> battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more 
year
> (smile).
> 
> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
the
> idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its 
name
> (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 
13!!!
> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

Thanks, that answers my LIDAR question. I care nothing for photography; my 
daughter-in-love has a pro, and she's the one that really likes to take 
pictures. Still, Jim thinks that the iPhone has a great camera. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor 
included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. 
Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most 
blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially 
less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers 
need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a 
smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to 
have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going.

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:


I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI 
and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I 
look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a 
better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 
10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a 
three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are 
also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all 
phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if 
it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I 
won't have to upgrade again for a number of years.

 

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote:

I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading 
yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great 
and does everything I need.

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
> 
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models 
do not have
> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement 
of the season.
> 
> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, 
had a new
> battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for 
one more year
> (smile).
> 
> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not 
relish the
> idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being 
part of its name
> (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
install iOS 13!!!
> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

[Carolyn]

Barbara, I had the exact, same problem. Someone told me to use the rotor, and 
mine is at 55. I tend to avoid the rotor like the plague. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:29 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

Is there a way to get the voiceover speaking rate to move in 5 percent 
increments instead of ten? I was using my kindle app and I had VO set at 60 and 
it read just a bit too fast, but I could only seem to move the VO speaking rate 
at ten percent increments and 50 percent was too slow.  

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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

Exactly - having same issue trying to buy mobile home, charges are extra for 
steps, to mention one essential. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether it's a 
phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more money and 
more features means more money and bigger with more features will always cost 
the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 19, 2021 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, then 
memory is a higher priority.

If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object identification 
and location, then the camera features are a higher priority.

 

The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB.

So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra features.  

Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it.

 

Later,

 

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor 
included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. 
Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most 
blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially 
less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers 
need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a 
smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to 
have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going.

 

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI 
and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I 
look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a 
better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 
10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a 
three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are 
also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all 
phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if 
it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I 
won't have to upgrade again for a number of years.

 

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote:

I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading 
yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great 
and does everything I need.

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
> 
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models 
do not have
> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement 
of the season.
> 
> So, as for me, I have updated my 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

Thanks, Richard. I understand now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Carolyn, and others, 
If you read about the way Seeing AI and SuperSense through their Super LIDAR 
app, are using this feature, it greatly enhances the ability to identify 
objects and give far more accurate information about how far away from you that 
object is.
Yes, it also enhances photography; but it also does a lot more.
Most uses granted will be for sighted people, like the fact that with LIDAR, 
apps can take a photograph of a room and give good enough measurements that an 
architect or interior decorater could make very good first draffts of their 
designs.
This will be the second year of its existance and I'm hoping the uses to help 
the visually impaired will continue to improve.
Plus, my wife can use my phone when she wants to take realy good photos/videos 




Richard
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On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



Exactly - having same issue trying to buy mobile home, charges are 
extra for steps, to mention one essential. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether 
it's a phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more 
money and more features means more money and bigger with more features will 
always cost the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 19, 2021 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective



IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, 
then memory is a higher priority.

If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object 
identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority.



The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB.

So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra 
features.  

Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it.



Later,







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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective



The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that 
sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro 
models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what 
most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for 
substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. 
App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough 
sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is 
going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get 
going.



On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

I don't use Braille input, but otherwise, Chris, I agree with what you say 
about the Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

This isn't just true for sighted users. I like the fact that I don't have a 
home button on the front of my iPhone 11. I feel I have more screen real 
estate, and it's easier to use braille screen input.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Sighted people want phones with edge to edge screens. A home button consumes 
valuable screen real estate that can be used for apps and videos.

On 9/19/21, lenron brown  wrote:
> streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service 
> when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at 
> times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more 
> than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good 
> for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years.
>
> On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy,
>>
>> But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb 
>> and only currently use 50 approx,
>>
>> Because everythings on line or streamable.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>>
>> And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb 
>> option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need 
>> because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible 
>> books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want 
>> to listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can 
>> then either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I 
>> currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space 
>> on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium 
>> for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great 
>> and Apple will thank you.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>>
>> My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model.
>> The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage.
>> I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID.
>> Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well.
>>
>> On 9/19/21, Michael Feir  wrote:
>>> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that 
>>> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard 
>>> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're 
>>> getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from 
>>> in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar 
>>> at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find 
>>> clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller 
>>> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to 
>>> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing 
 AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense.









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 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
 Behalf Of *Michael Feir
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective



 I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I 
 look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 
 will prove a better phone to make use of artifici

Guess what happened to Do Not Disturb?

[Carolyn]

I update to 15. I could not find Do Not Disturb; Siri could
not find Do Not Disturb. 

 

I called Apple Accessibility. It is in Focus. Focus allows
more flexibility. 

 

He did tell me that some people were saying they were not
getting adequate service from Siri, and that is being
address,

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RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

[Carolyn]

Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another address 
that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. The email 
is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 

Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 

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Subject: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications from 
Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail from 
Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I missing? 
It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks for any 
tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our apartment. 
You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face. The phone will tell 
you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to the left; turn your head 
slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial 
ID, but I was able to do it myself. If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone 
users can. 

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Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to this, 
How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What should I 
expect?  Thanks much for any input.

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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

I forgot that clock stuff, but I am very much at home with the concept. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

kay, you probably won't need sighted assistance if you know what clockwise 
means, visually. Not everyone does anymore; but I suspect you do. 
When you start the process, VoiceOver speaks the instructions quite well.
You will start by holding the phone roughly I think a foot in frront of your 
face, with your nose pointed at the center of the screen.
Then, when it tells you to start rotating your head it will have you look up to 
12 o'clock as if you were facing a clock.
Then gradually pretend you are looking toward 3 o'clock, 6, 9, and back to 12.
You usually have to go through it a couple times.
That is what I remember from many months ago.
That should get you started.
I'll be doing this on Friday chwhen my new phone arrives.



Richard
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On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Kay Malmquist  
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I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
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should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.


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RE: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone

[Carolyn]

Bluetooth was on, when my update was completed, and then when I turned it off 
and back on. 

On the last update, I was not on the Net, and Do Not Disturb was on from 10 to 
7. I didn't want any of that stuff. I do not like for my settings to be 
tampered with. 

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goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone
Importance: High

on both of my iPhones, which are both iPhone X, I didn't need to change any 
settings, I just ran the update, and then let the phone sit plugged in for a 
few hours, so that it could do anything else it wanted to with out outside 
interference, and that seems to have done the trick.
I don't know about the wallet issue, as so far I don't used that feature, but 
the app switcher is working as normal for example.
as an aside, I also ran the watch OS 8 update on both of my apple watch series 
5 watches.
hope this helps you.

Simon


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> Hi like A let of us hear have 14.8 on my phone.
>
> Thinking about upgrading to 15 now or should I wait?
>
> And when I do what are the best way to set up IOS 15 to give me the best 
> results?
>
> Also after I update should I power off my phone and restart it after 
> updating it and if so for how long should I leave it powered off after 
> updating it to restart it?
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RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

[Carolyn]

I wonder how in weather to read the stuff like sunrise, sunset, and the 
barometric pressure, like I have been doing on the bottom of weather. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 6:31 PM
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Subject: RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

It has to do with some combination of having Siri or VoiceOver read the alerts 
and not, and I have not settled on a good answer yet.
I have my first gen SE on iOS 15 and got Big Beg, the Westminster clock app 
working, but the notifications keep being read in the notifications and I 
thought I got that stopped, but not yet.
Too bloody many settings ...




Richard
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Minor
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Subject: RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

Hi Richard.

I followed your instructions. The good news is I'm hearing the sound that I got 
an email. The bad news is the message is being read. It happens even when the 
phone is locked. How do I stop that, while still having other notifications 
read?

Thanks in advance.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

In iOS 15, there is another layer to successfully get sound notifications.

Open Settings, Mail.
Double tap on Notifications.
Now, swipe right with one finger until you get to Customize Notifications.
Double tap on that.
Now, you have separate settings for each mail account.
Make sure you have what you want set for the sound here.

You can also get to that screen through the main Settings, Notifications.

HTH,



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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

I am not getting sound notification when I get a new email but texting and 
everything else seems to work fine Jen

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another 
> address that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. 
> The email is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 
> 
> Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
> notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
> versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications 
> from Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail 
> from Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I 
> missing? It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks 
> for any tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

Right, I am totally blind, had no problem at 3 in the afternoon on a bright and 
sunny day, setting up facial ID on the west side of my apartment. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Face recognition

You don't need sighted help, just as with Touch Id you are guided as to what 
you should do. Keep in mind that you can always delete your Face Id and set it 
up again, also a good idea at least for setup to be in a reasonably well 
lighted room. Once Face Id is set up it works in total darkness because it uses 
IR light to scan your face and light is not required.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: September 21, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face recognition

 

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to this, 
How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What should I 
expect?  Thanks much for any input.


Kay Malmquist
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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

I have both passcode and facial ID. 

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If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face. 
> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself. 
> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>
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RE: Hi did they brake the hourley chimes in ios 15?

[Carolyn]

Mich, how is it that you get your clock on your phone to chime on the hour? 

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Subject: Hi did they brake the hourley chimes in ios 15?

Hi I am just wondering if they broke the hourly chimes in ios 15? I have my 
sounds set to on the banners and badges set to banners and sounds. I just am 
wondering what I have to do to hear the coocoo sound at the top of every hour? 
When I dubble tap on the banners and sounds option I get alow notifications and 
that is on then swipeing right it shows alerts alow on lock screen butten alowd 
on notification senter it says this is selected selected alow as bannerbanner 
stile is set to temparey. Then sounds is on. From Mich.  

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RE: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in iOS 15 mail app

[Carolyn]

You know, I do not know why folders ever collapse in Outlook? What advantage is 
there to that? 

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Subject: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in 
iOS 15 mail app

Hi I am using a native mail app on my iPhone 11 running iOS 15 and I'm 
wondering if there is a way to keep my outlook account permanently expanded 
within the app so I can see all the folders and don't have to tap on expand 
every time.
Thanks.
Jen

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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
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You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

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> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>
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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

We can't use our fingerprints on phones without Home Buttons, which I like. I 
never missed the Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

I would imagine that you could use your fingerprint as well, right? Please 
correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a 
passcode even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. 
Face Id works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help 
you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to 
imagine a clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock 
is at the bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 
o'clock is on the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation 
of the Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South 
(down) and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, 
is to hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a 
bit to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure 
somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode 
which for some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen 
and you are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode 
instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode 
when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then 
I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up 
face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at 
arm's length.








-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of 


Carolyn


Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Face recognition





Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of 
our 


apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from 
your face. 


The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head 
slightly to 


the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. 
The guy 


at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it 
myself. 


If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 


Behalf Of Kay Malmquist


Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Face recognition





I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I 
jump in 


to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need 
sighted 


help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.





Kay Malmquist


kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>





"Where focus goes, energy flows."


Bob Proctor








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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, would 
not want to do that. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

I think you can have. In Password, it has both, and whenever you get an update, 
it is likely to prompt you to enter the one you did not enter - i.e. passcode, 
if you have only facial ID and facial ID, if you only have password. Not my 
problem, so I can't be sure of that. I prefer having both. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Can you have only the face id? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

I have both passcode and facial ID. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
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RE: do not disturb

[Carolyn]

Also, sometimes we have to be flexible, since under work, I put my church's 
address. I am just delighted not to have to activate and deactivate Do Not 
Disturb every Sunday. 

What is Notification Summary? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: do not disturb

Do Not Disturb has been moved to Settings > Focus as it is now just one of 
several preset focus options which are there:

 

Do Not Disturb

Personal

Sleep

Work

 

You can go into any of them or all of them and configure them to your liking or 
add new Focus entries, for example, if you have a particular time each day or 
on certain days when you have a conference call or web conference you could add 
one called Conference Call or Online Meeting and configure it for the time in 
question to not bother you with anything or allow certain apps or people to get 
through. This is a pretty powerful new feature and as with all such things 
there will be people who use it a lot and others will hardly use it at all.

 

Another example would be the notification summary, I personally don't have much 
use for it, but others may think it's the best thing since the invention of the 
wheel.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: September 22, 2021 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: do not disturb

 

I just sent a message out asking about this.  My friend doesn't see that option 
anywhere.  So, where are you seeing this?


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

- Original Message - 

From: Star Gazer   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:14 AM

Subject: do not disturb

 

It’s still there at the top of the focus window. My do not disturb did 
not change. 

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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

Oh yes, that's definitely right, Seigard. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

If you ever update your phone it reboots and after it reboots you have to enter 
your passcode.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 22, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, would 
not want to do that. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>
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RE: Since updating

[Carolyn]

I checked it, and with the phone in my pocket, Hay Siri did not work; I have an 
iPhone 11. Then, I got it out, went into My information and went through Siri. 
It looked OK. I asked a question with it laying on the desk, and Siri 
responded. 

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Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Since updating

With IOS15, hay Siri doesn't work on locked screen on my SE20.

Also I have to turn off vibration, which I don't want to do, or else the touch 
screen goes all weird in a way I can't explain.  I will get in touch with Apple 
accessibility in a bit when other more pressing problems they get will die down.



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RE: Issue with Mail app

[Carolyn]

I wonder why you couldn't go directly to App Switcher, close mail, then go back 
to it? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CHELA Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issue with Mail app

Well, I will just keep doing what I keep doing and if it resolves itself then 
that will be that. Thanks for trying to help me out my friend. Greatly 
appreciate it. Have a great day! At least dictation has improved some on my 
end. I do have a question though when composing a message at the top I do see 
something called a sheet grabber. What is that? This is within the mail app by 
the way.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that 
> after a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!
> 
> There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it does 
> not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
>> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund 
>> for an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party seller 
>> in the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but that’s a 
>> entirely different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund message from 
>> Amazon no matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely annoying.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>>> 
>>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>>> 
>>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>>> 
>>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
 
 Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
 I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not that 
 I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
>> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
>> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see 
>> your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since 
>> yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just 
>> my phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last 
>> time I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for 
>> other messages it lands me back into the message I had previously backed 
>> out of.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

You are right about it, Lisa. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

Hi.  Just to clarify:  To set up Facial verification, you need to have a pass 
code.  But the only time you would use the pass code as the default way to 
unlock your phone is if the phone has to be restarted, or if the Face ID fails 
for some reason.  Is this correct?  In other words, you wouldn't need to use 
the pass code constantly to unlock the phone unless it was restarted or if 
there was an issue with the Face ID?


I'm guessing this is how it works, but I want to be sure as I'm thinking of 
setting it up myself and yes, I have no desire to enter a pass code every time 
I unlock my phone.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 11:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> If you ever update your phone it reboots and after it reboots you have to 
> enter your passcode.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 22, 2021 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, 
> would not want to do that.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Star Gazer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
>   How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
> I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode 
> even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id 
> works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set 
> it up.
> As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
> clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
> bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
> the left side?
> You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
> Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South 
> (down) and West (to the left).
> All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
> hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit 
> to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure 
> somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode 
> which for some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the 
> screen and you are good to go.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face recognition
>
> If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode 
> instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your 
> passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple 
> years ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
> I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face 
> ID.
>
> On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
>> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
>> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
>> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
>> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my

RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

I'm sorry, I was thinking of voice command. Oh yes, you do use VoiceOver to 
enter a passcode. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
without voiceover? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, would 
not want to do that. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
>
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RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

[Carolyn]

I opened Control Center, found nothing about the mic, even went into Control 
Center in Settings. 

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Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

I'll show you how to get your normal face time sound back. When 15 launched 
wide spectrum audio mode is active by default. While in a face time call, open 
control center and at the top of the screen you'll see something about the mic. 
Double tap there and you'll be presented with two options, voice isolation and 
wide spectrum audio. This is under the main control center and not the face 
time options. It would be much more convenient if Apple had placed those 
options in the face time options.
On 9/22/2021 1:46 PM, lenron brown wrote:
> Ah so it's not just me. Sometimes yes the sound is weird and not in a 
> good way. Also I guess I also seem to sound strange unless I put in my 
> Airpods.
>
> On 9/22/21, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hello folks.
>> Have any of you noticed a major change in the way FaceTime sounds 
>> after updating to iOS 15? The voice of the other persons on the other 
>> side sounds as if they are talking inside a very large empty hall. I 
>> also sound to them as if I am talking inside a large empty room after 
>> I updated to fifteen, although they are still using 14.8. Is there a 
>> setting I must change to go back to the lovely normal sound of the familiar 
>> FaceTime.
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

[Carolyn]

Mich, either come down with one finger from the top to the first pop, which I 
did first, or go into Settings. I am thinking he was talking about coming down 
from the top with the first pop. That is, if you have a phone newer than 8, 
that is, 10 or later. I can't remember for sure how on the older phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mich Verrier
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

Hi what's the command to get into controle senter? From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 22, 2021 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

Perfect, Gordon thank you 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

I'll show you how to get your normal face time sound back. When 15 launched 
wide spectrum audio mode is active by default. While in a face time call, open 
control center and at the top of the screen you'll see something about the mic. 
Double tap there and you'll be presented with two options, voice isolation and 
wide spectrum audio. This is under the main control center and not the face 
time options. It would be much more convenient if Apple had placed those 
options in the face time options.
On 9/22/2021 1:46 PM, lenron brown wrote:
> Ah so it's not just me. Sometimes yes the sound is weird and not in a 
> good way. Also I guess I also seem to sound strange unless I put in my 
> Airpods.
>
> On 9/22/21, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hello folks.
>> Have any of you noticed a major change in the way FaceTime sounds 
>> after updating to iOS 15? The voice of the other persons on the other 
>> side sounds as if they are talking inside a very large empty hall. I 
>> also sound to them as if I am talking inside a large empty room after 
>> I updated to fifteen, although they are still using 14.8. Is there a 
>> setting I must change to go back to the lovely normal sound of the familiar 
>> FaceTime.
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

[Carolyn]

Where are the mic commands in Control Center? I checked twice in each, did not 
find it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

Can anybody explain what the different mike options in facetime mean standard 
v. voice isolation v. full spectrum? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

Thanks so much will be so glad to get rid of this for now. It just doesn't 
sound all that great to me. Also the command is one finger flick down from the 
top.

On 9/22/21, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Hi what's the command to get into controle senter? From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: September 22, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15
>
> Perfect, Gordon thank you
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15
>
> I'll show you how to get your normal face time sound back. When 15 
> launched wide spectrum audio mode is active by default. While in a 
> face time call, open control center and at the top of the screen 
> you'll see something about the mic. Double tap there and you'll be 
> presented with two options, voice isolation and wide spectrum audio.
> This is under the main control center and not the face time options. 
> It would be much more convenient if Apple had placed those options in the 
> face time options.
> On 9/22/2021 1:46 PM, lenron brown wrote:
>> Ah so it's not just me. Sometimes yes the sound is weird and not in a 
>> good way. Also I guess I also seem to sound strange unless I put in 
>> my Airpods.
>>
>> On 9/22/21, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> Hello folks.
>>> Have any of you noticed a major change in the way FaceTime sounds 
>>> after updating to iOS 15? The voice of the other persons on the 
>>> other side sounds as if they are talking inside a very large empty 
>>> hall. I also sound to them as if I am talking inside a large empty 
>>> room after I updated to fifteen, although they are still using 14.8.
>>> Is there a setting I must change to go back to the lovely normal 
>>> sound of the familiar FaceTime.
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

Definitely, it would be nuts to have to punch in a code every time you opened 
your phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Face recognition

Hi.


The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if they're like 
me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just extra taps for 
someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a vehicle driving 
over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more intuitive.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
> It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have to double tap 
> each digit or just touch and lift.
> But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a passcode.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." - Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
>   Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
> without voiceover?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, 
> would not want to do that.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Star Gazer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
>   How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
> I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode 
> even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id 
> works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set 
> it up.
> As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
> clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
> bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
> the left side?
> You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
> Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South 
> (down) and West (to the left).
> All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
> hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit 
> to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure 
> somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode 
> which for some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the 
> screen and you are good to go.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face recognition
>
> If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode 
> instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your 
> passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple 
> years ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
> I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face 
> ID.
>
> On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: September 21, 202

RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

[Carolyn]

Thanks. That makes perfect sense. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

You have to be in a facetime call to do this 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

I opened Control Center, found nothing about the mic, even went into Control 
Center in Settings. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

I'll show you how to get your normal face time sound back. When 15 launched 
wide spectrum audio mode is active by default. While in a face time call, open 
control center and at the top of the screen you'll see something about the mic. 
Double tap there and you'll be presented with two options, voice isolation and 
wide spectrum audio. This is under the main control center and not the face 
time options. It would be much more convenient if Apple had placed those 
options in the face time options.
On 9/22/2021 1:46 PM, lenron brown wrote:
> Ah so it's not just me. Sometimes yes the sound is weird and not in a 
> good way. Also I guess I also seem to sound strange unless I put in my 
> Airpods.
>
> On 9/22/21, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hello folks.
>> Have any of you noticed a major change in the way FaceTime sounds 
>> after updating to iOS 15? The voice of the other persons on the other 
>> side sounds as if they are talking inside a very large empty hall. I 
>> also sound to them as if I am talking inside a large empty room after 
>> I updated to fifteen, although they are still using 14.8. Is there a 
>> setting I must change to go back to the lovely normal sound of the familiar 
>> FaceTime.
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

Right, Maria. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

The only time I have to enter my pass code is when I power down and turn my 
phone back on.  Not every time I unlock the screen.



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On 9/22/2021 4:49 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> Definitely, it would be nuts to have to punch in a code every time you opened 
> your phone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
> Subject: Re: Face recognition
>
> Hi.
>
>
> The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if they're like 
> me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just extra taps 
> for someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a vehicle 
> driving over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more intuitive.
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
>> It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have to double 
>> tap each digit or just touch and lift.
>> But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a passcode.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>> with it." - Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Star Gazer
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>  Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
>> without voiceover?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>> I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, 
>> would not want to do that.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>>  How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
>> I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>> Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>> You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode 
>> even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face 
>> Id works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you 
>> set it up.
>> As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine 
>> a clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at 
>> the bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock 
>> is on the left side?
>> You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of 
>> the Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South 
>> (down) and West (to the left).
>> All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is 
>> to hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a 
>> bit to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure 
>> somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode 
>> which for some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the 
>> screen an

RE: Face recognition

[Carolyn]

It does work for me with or without sunglasses, but not with a mask. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Face recognition

that sounds like a good plan to me too. I was just wondering, if you use facial 
ID and you have sunglasses on, would it work? Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:



Hi.


The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if 
they're like me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just 
extra taps for someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a 
vehicle driving over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more 
intuitive.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.


It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have 
to double tap each digit or just touch and lift.


But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a 
passcode.














Richard


"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." - Jane Wagner





My Web site: https://www.turner42.com








-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Star Gazer


Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Face recognition





   Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
without voiceover?





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Carolyn


Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Face recognition





I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; 
I, for one, would not want to do that.





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer


Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Face recognition





   How exactly do you enter in a passcode using 
voiceover? I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Carolyn


Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Face recognition





Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six 
digits.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel


Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Face recognition





You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter 
a passcode even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your 
iPhone. Face Id works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to 
help you set it up.


As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not 
abl

Weather.

[Carolyn]

I llike the new feature of telling about the rain,
especially, since yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don't
know how much we had. I asked Siri how much in the past 24
hours, and she said she could not tell me things from the
past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when
he died - you think that is just happening right now? LOL!

 

My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and
barometric pressure now. 

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RE: emergency alerts

[Carolyn]

Did you go into Weather and set it for notifications? 

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Star Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: emergency alerts

Hoping one of you can answer this one. 

My kid seems to get weather alerts that my husband and I don’t get. We all live 
in the same house. I joke that my phone secretly wants me dead. 

Can anybody tell me why this might be happening? My kid got an alert this 
morning that neither my husband and I got, a weather one and we are obviously 
all effected by the same weather systems. 

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RE: Since updating

[Carolyn]

Similar here with Hay Siri. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Since updating

I would consider this a bug. I also just tried and while I get the SIRI 
listening tone the first time I say Hey SIRI I can confirm that it doesn't seem 
to react. I asked "What is the time" and got nothing, then I said Hey SIrRI a 
second time and asked and received an answer.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: September 23, 2021 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Since updating

While locked, the first time I say hay Siri it doesn't do what I say, but just 
asking unlocks the screen and it does what I say when asked again.


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On 9/22/2021 7:52 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Odd I've had it working while sitting on my night stand.
>
> It wakes and tries to do what I ask.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2021 6:46 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Since updating
>
> I checked it, and with the phone in my pocket, Hay Siri did not work; I have 
> an iPhone 11. Then, I got it out, went into My information and went through 
> Siri. It looked OK. I asked a question with it laying on the desk, and Siri 
> responded.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Since updating
>
> With IOS15, hay Siri doesn't work on locked screen on my SE20.
>
> Also I have to turn off vibration, which I don't want to do, or else the 
> touch screen goes all weird in a way I can't explain.  I will get in touch 
> with Apple accessibility in a bit when other more pressing problems they get 
> will die down.
>
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RE: Weather.

[Carolyn]

I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric 
pressure? 

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It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Weather.

 

I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since yesterday, 
we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri how much in the 
past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things from the past,yet she 
could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died – you think that is just 
happening right now? LOL!

 

My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric pressure 
now. 

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RE: Weather.

[Carolyn]

Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 

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Yes you have to go line by lne

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric 
> pressure? 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Star Gazer
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Weather.
> 
> It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Weather.
> 
> 
> 
> I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
> yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri how 
> much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things from the 
> past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died – you 
> think that is just happening right now? LOL!
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RE: Weather.

[Carolyn]

That sounds like a good app. 

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Hi.




I'm not using iOS 15 yet, but I've always found the native weather app to be a 
pain.  I use Weather Gods.  It's accessible and very customizable.  There are 
also sounds for each type of weather event, even fog.  The sounds can be 
configured to reflect the current conditions, such as a slight breeze or a 
hurricane force wind.  The sounds are also customizable and can be disabled 
easily.  It's also very accurate.  I get notifications twice daily about 
sunrise and sunset, as well as a summary of the weather at 6 AM.  The summaries 
and sun notifications can be set up to notify you at a time of your choosing. 
It also has detailed moon phase as well as moon rise and set info.  Call me a 
nerd, but I like this.




I believe it is $4.99, but I seem to remember there being a trial period.  The 
developer is very receptive to feedback and often mentions Voice Over 
improvements in the update summaries.





Lisa




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On 9/23/2021 11:25 AM, Star Gazer wrote:


It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by 
hour 

 

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Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Weather.

 

I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri how 
much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things from the 
past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died – you think 
that is just happening right now? LOL!

 

My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric 
pressure now. 

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RE: weather alerts

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Apple's does in 15. It was easy to set up in the weather app. 

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Hi what is the best app for receiving weather alerts in your area like for 
tornados and storms that doesn't need a monthly or yearly subscription?
Or will apples weather app do this and if so how do you set that up?
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RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

[Carolyn]

I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find it 
in Settings or in an open app? 

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point 
where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and 
for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us?

--
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Dresner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Weather.

Hi,

You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through 
sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and 
flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> Yes you have to go line by lne
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric 
>> pressure? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Weather.
>> 
>> It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Weather.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
>> yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri 
>> how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things 
>> from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died 
>> – you think that is just happening right now? LOL!
>> 
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RE: Weather.

[Carolyn]

What did you do to restore your commands to default? 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet. 
I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
Back to the drawing board with those.



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On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:



 Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can 
flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, 
flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that group. 
when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left with two 
fingers. 

I hope that helps.

best,
Anna



On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Anna, 
Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group 
navigation in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group 
navigation style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the 
rotor settings for a long time.
 



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Hi,

You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up 
and down to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation 
style, flick to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the 
information in that group.

Best,
Anna




    On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:





Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 





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Of Star Gazer


Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 


Subject: Re: Weather.





Yes you have to go line by lne





Sent from my iPhone



    

On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:





I found hour by hour, but would that 
give sunrise and sunset and barometric pressure? 





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From: viphone@googlegrou

Trying to delete photos.

[Carolyn]

Somehow, I am not able to delete photos. I know I have in
the past. Can someone tell me what to do in iOS 15 to delete
photos, please?

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RE: Weather.

[Carolyn]

My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about defaults. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of them, you 
will find a restore to defaults. 
HTH,



Richard
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



What did you do to restore your commands to default? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet. 
I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
Back to the drawing board with those.



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   On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
   
   

    Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you 
can flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to 
explore, flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in 
that group. when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left 
with two fingers. 

   I hope that helps.

   best,
   Anna



   On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

   Anna, 
   Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group 
navigation in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group 
navigation style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the 
rotor settings for a long time.

   
   

   Richard
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touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
 


   
   
   
   
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   On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:
   
   

   Hi,
   
   You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and 
down to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, 
flick to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in 
that group.
   
   Best,
   Anna
   
       
   

   On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
   

   
   

   Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 
   

   
   

   -Original Message-
   

 

RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

[Carolyn]

Smart girl, our Hollie - cancel your account!?! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan:
 
It has been awhile since I went through the merry-to-round with Verizon 
customer service, but, as I remember, you don’t want to punch any number for 
general info, but choose the option to ‘cancel my account’ and you will be 
connected to a live person.
 
Once you do get a live rep, they are usually very helpful.

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RE: Weather.

[Carolyn]

OK, thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

That's it. 
It resets them to their default.



Richard
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about 
defaults. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of 
them, you will find a restore to defaults. 
HTH,



Richard
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it." -- Jane Wagner 







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   On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:
   
   

   What did you do to restore your commands to default? 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: Weather.
   
   Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it 
isn't something that overly impresses me yet. 
   I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
   Back to the drawing board with those.
   
   
   
   Richard
   "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." -- Jane Wagner 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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  On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  
wrote:
  
  
   
   Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you 
can flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to 
explore, flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in 
that group. when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left 
with two fingers. 
   
  I hope that helps.
   
  best,
  Anna
   
   
   
  On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
   
  Anna, 
  Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group 
navigation in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group 
navigation style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the 
rotor settings for a long time.
   
  
  
   
  Richard
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touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

   
   
  
  
  
  
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RE: No new iPhone yet

[Carolyn]

Well, after spending money for an 11, which I did, when it was only from 
September to January 3 old, I got a case and a screen protector for it before I 
even took the thing. So, why didn't this guy being videoed? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mich Verrier
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

I remember that reporter who interviewd that guy who got I think it was the I 
phone 11 I thinkit was then he dropt it after he got it and it shadderd on 
camra lol. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 25, 2021 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

And I remember the good old days 10 years ago when the release date of new 
iPhones was announced during the Apple Event and then people would start lining 
up in front of all the Apple Stores starting at midnight and by morning in some 
places the line up would stretch around the block! How things change, there are 
still fans who order the minute the new phones go up online or probably those 
who are at the store when they open to get one, but it's a far cry from what it 
used to be which is of course a good thing because at times it seemed that 
getting a new iPhone was absolutely the most important, life-altering event 
with reporters interviewing those in line as if it really made a difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

I found out the plan was the next “business day” by calling and getting a call 
back 32 minutes later from a human since the automated BS system couldn’t 
answer my question.

I could have it sent to a depot but that would be Tuesday so Monday will due 
just fine.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

Here it would be dropped off at a local depot where you can then go with your 
card and Id to pick it up.

Usually you can also contact UPS to make arrangements; I am surprised there are 
no further instructions.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: No new iPhone yet

 

I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday … well, 
I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, with 
nothing marked on it … which I found out later means, we will try two more 
times to deliver then likely will send it back … and the next time is Monday.

So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.

 

It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I’m not being sarcastic.  
They are not going to leave that expensive of an item on the porch, especially 
with all the package thieves running around and they don’t want to be liable.

 

O well, patience is a virtue, right?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner

 

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Sound notification for email.

[Carolyn]

Somehow, I am not able to get mine to work - have checked in
Sounds and Haptics and in mail. Is this a 15 bug? 

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RE: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account

[Carolyn]

Is there an advantage to a post or prepaid account? I would think a prepaid 
would be less money, but the customer representative with AT&T that I talked to 
said no. 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account

Hi Kay,

 

Well, you do need a SIM card in your 12 Mini to get cellular service but I 
agree with Richard and think you should ask AT&T whether you can move the SIM 
card from your old to your new phone.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account

 

Alan and others,

I truly hope this is not hijacking a thread, but you bring up a question that I 
was going to ask.  I have a new 12 Mini and I have set it up just with Wi-Fi 
and have not set up the cellular portion yet.  That was going to be my 
question.  Do I just pop in the sim card or what do I have to do.  Last time I 
switched phones, although it was several years ago, I seem to remember just 
switching the sim.  I have AT&T if you need to know.  Thanks much for any 
thoughts.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

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From: Alan Lemly   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:52 AM

Subject: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account

 

Hi List,

 

As I posted yesterday, I’m starting to research getting a new iPhone 
and avoiding any activation fee when adding it to my existing Verizon Prepaid 
account. When I upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an SE 2020 in May, 2020, I was 
told that I needed to move the SIM from my iPhone 8 to my new SE 2020 in order 
to avoid the activation fee. I wanted to check whether this was still the case 
so attempted to call Verizon and ask. I had no success on the phone but found 
great support by tweeting a direct message to @Verizon.  I’ll paste their 
replies below.

 


Answer to my question about activation fees on new iPhone and whether I 
should transfer my SIM from the old to the new iPhone:


 

I apologize for any confusion, Alan. You will not receive an activation 
fee for activating a new phone on an already existing line. Activation fees are 
only charged when you open a new line on an account. 

 

It would be best advised to not use the same SIM Card from your old 
device, as that can cause SIM Swapping issues and be pinged for fraud. If it 
came with a Verizon SIM Card already installed, you are good to go to use that 
SIM Card. 

Does this clarify?

 


Answer to my question about how to activate the new iPhone once receive:


 

You are very welcome, Alan. I'm happy to help! 

When you get the new phone, you can attempt to activate by entering 
your new IMEI and ICCID into My Verizon. Once that is finished, you will turn 
'OFF' the old device, ensuring Find My iPhone is also turned off. Then, on the 
new device that you wish to activate, turn off WI-Fi and Bluetooth and reboot 
the device. Give it a few moments to connect to the network. 

If you have any issue reach out to us here, and we would be glad to 
help activate it for you.

Was I able to resolve all your concerns for today?

 

Note that the My Verizon referenced in the answer to the second 
question about activating the new iPhone is the My Verizon app. I hope others 
will find the above helpful.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Sound notification for email.

[Carolyn]

I did upgrade. 

One thing, speaking of upgrade, Focus worked right, when I got to my church 
address, but somehow, after I got home, I started checking things. Airplane 
Mode was on, and I did not have Cellular data. Good thing I am learning to 
check every little thing. I never liked people moving my things around, and I 
do not like it in my phone either. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sound notification for email.

Have you upgraded to iOS 15 yet? I saw here that some people were having issues 
with the mail stuff. So I haven't upgraded. And I will not upgrade until I feel 
that everything is fixed.

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RE: Sound notification for email.

[Carolyn]

Thanks. I just guess we have to wait to see if they fix it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Yates
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sound notification for email.

Carolyn, I have the same issue occurring here as well after updating to 15 Dan


Sent from my iPhone


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Somehow, I am not able to get mine to work – have checked in Sounds and 
Haptics and in mail. Is this a 15 bug? 



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RE: Sound notification for email.

[Carolyn]

Thanks for that. It looks like now with updates, we'll have to go on a Settings 
wild goose chase and hope to get it back like we had it. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sound notification for email.

You have to go to Notifications > Mail and make sure Sounds is turned on there.
If you have more than one mail account there is also a "Customize 
Notifications" button at the very end of that screen which allows you to set 
different sounds and preferences for each account, in fact , I think everybody 
probably has that button because even with one Mail account there still are the 
"VIP" notifications which you can also configure to play a different sound.
I had sounds on for Mail, but after the upgrade I noticed they had been turned 
off for some reason and I had to reconfigure that in Notifications > Mail > 
Customize Notifications.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 26, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sound notification for email.

Thanks. I just guess we have to wait to see if they fix it. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Yates
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sound notification for email.

Carolyn, I have the same issue occurring here as well after updating to 15 Dan


Sent from my iPhone


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Somehow, I am not able to get mine to work – have checked in Sounds and 
Haptics and in mail. Is this a 15 bug? 



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RE: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account

[Carolyn]

It sounds like you have a great plan, Joshua. I have AT&T, but could change, 
especially, whenever I replace my phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account

I'd say, get prepaid if you can.  I only pay $27 per month for my plan with 
Verizon.  I get 5 gigs of data, and unlimited talk and text.

On 9/26/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> I like my prepaid account because I am not in a contract and the deal 
> I currently have is very good.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:53 PM
> Subject: RE: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding 
> activation
>
> fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account
>
>
> Is there an advantage to a post or prepaid account? I would think a 
> prepaid
>
> would be less money, but the customer representative with AT&T that I 
> talked
>
> to said no.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding 
> activation
>
> fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account
>
> Hi Kay,
>
>
>
> Well, you do need a SIM card in your 12 Mini to get cellular service 
> but I agree with Richard and think you should ask AT&T whether you can 
> move the SIM card from your old to your new phone.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 11:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding 
> activation
>
> fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account
>
>
>
> Alan and others,
>
> I truly hope this is not hijacking a thread, but you bring up a 
> question that I was going to ask.  I have a new 12 Mini and I have set 
> it up just with Wi-Fi and have not set up the cellular portion yet.  
> That was going to
>
> be my question.  Do I just pop in the sim card or what do I have to do.
> Last time I switched phones, although it was several years ago, I seem 
> to remember just switching the sim.  I have AT&T if you need to know.  
> Thanks much for any thoughts.
>
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:52 AM
>
> Subject: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding 
> activation fees
>
> when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepaid account
>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> As I posted yesterday, I'm starting to research getting a new iPhone 
> and avoiding any activation fee when adding it to my existing Verizon 
> Prepaid account. When I upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an SE 2020 in 
> May, 2020, I was
>
> told that I needed to move the SIM from my iPhone 8 to my new SE 2020 
> in order to avoid the activation fee. I wanted to check whether this 
> was still
>
> the case so attempted to call Verizon and ask. I had no success on the 
> phone
>
> but found great support by tweeting a direct message to @Verizon.  
> I'll paste their replies below.
>
>
>
>
> Answer to my question about activation fees on new iPhone and whether 
> I should transfer my SIM from the old to the new iPhone:
>
>
>
>
> I apologize for any confusion, Alan. You will not receive an 
> activation fee
>
> for activating a new phone on an already existing line. Activation 
> fees are
>
> only charged when you open a new line on an account.
>
>
>
> It would be best advised to not use the same SIM Card from your old 
> device,
>
> as that can cause SIM Swapping issues and be pinged for fraud. If it 
> came with a Verizon SIM Card already installed, you are good to go to 
> use that SIM Card.
>
> Does this clarify?
>
>
>
>
> Answer to my question about how to a

RE: where did they put the VoiceOver setting for always speak notifications?

[Carolyn]

Isn't Lielle a pretty name? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: where did they put the VoiceOver setting for always speak 
notifications?

Hi Lielle,

I should have paid closer attention to the voice, or better yet, read your name 
in braille before guessing.

Sorry about that.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lielle 
BeN Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: where did they put the VoiceOver setting for always speak 
notifications?

 

Thanks my name is Lielle and not Lio.

 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי





‫ב-25 בספט׳ 2021, בשעה 21:37, ‏‏Richard Turner 
‏mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > כתב/ה:

 Thanks Malcolm and Leo. How I missed that I don't know. 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 





On Sep 25, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Lielle BeN Simon ליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

They Put in the verbosity settings. if it doesn't work try to 
invoke the quick settings with  2 fingers 4 times.

 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי





‫ב-25 בספט׳ 2021, בשעה 21:25, ‏‏Richard Turner 
‏mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > כתב/ה:

 I've tried to find it by searching settings, and 
scrolling through the various VoiceOver settings, but I seem to be missing it. 

Help please?

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who 
are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Carolyn]

But that is most interesting, Seigard, and you are so valuable to this list. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up rocks 
or tree stumps or similar things.

We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in the 
end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that moving 
on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the full 
support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was born and 
grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind which prepared 
me very well not just academically but also in terms of the skills I needed 
like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O&M and so on. 3 Years 
after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto at a private 
language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I graduated from 
my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started University where I 
eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. Anyhow, enough 
biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for?

 

Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands 
and face.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off 
because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when 
I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb.

I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is 
where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention 
mode is turned off.

I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention 
mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Hi richard,

I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I 
do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never 
had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention 
enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, 
sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention 
mode if I were you.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came 
yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, 
Sierra Blue, 256GB.

(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will 
post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)

 

Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my 
package would be delivered today, not Monday. 

 

We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the 
wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be 
similar…

You know what happens when you assume?...

 

After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple 
Accessibility.

I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit 
with us through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had 
us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but 
it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.

 

I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping.  
It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip.

 

I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely.  
The case came with a surprise; a stand.  It is like the decrotive plate 
holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at 
one end and 

RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Carolyn]

Esther, all of us who have 15 have the bugs, but they should be addressed in 
future updates. So, the same would be true on a new iPhone. 

I want to get the 13 Minni, and plan to do so after the first of 2022. 
Incidentally, I want Starlight. 

Do you have 15 on your 8? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not 
to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get 
the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



 

OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came 
yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, 
Sierra Blue, 256GB.

(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will 
post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)

 

Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my 
package would be delivered today, not Monday. 

 

We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the 
wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be 
similar…

You know what happens when you assume?...

 

After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple 
Accessibility.

I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit 
with us through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had 
us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but 
it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.

 

I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping.  
It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip.

 

I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely.  
The case came with a surprise; a stand.  It is like the decrotive plate 
holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at 
one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in 
landscape mode.

 

I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below.

 

The Sound.  Well, I was expecting better sound.  I was not expecting 
this quality of sound.  When in that little stand that came with the case, 
sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is 
very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive.

Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than 
the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose 
about on the display.  The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second 
generation.  Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than 
the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better.

I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m 
quite impressed.

 

Setting up Face ID was very easy.  VoiceOver walks you through the 
setup with good directions.  Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you 
know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can 
turn it on if you wish.  I wouldn’t do that.  That requires very specific focus 
rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera.  It makes 
unlocking the phone quite fast.

 

I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a 
fair amount.

 

My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into 
the 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit.  It goes in upside down from 
the way it was in the SE 2020.  Then, it works fine.  I am on Xfinity, and I 
could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to 
make sure.

I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI 
number, etc.

 

I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting 
used to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet.

 

I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning.  Very 
promising.  One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going 
somewhere on their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you 
“person without a mask.”

I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I 
don’t have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any 
other LIDAR feature.

 

I have some settings to still go through and some apps to lo

RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Carolyn]

Well, guess what, friends, my notifications, at least for emails, do not work 
with screen locked. I have mine set for never, so keep it locked most of the 
time. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.

I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. 

Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too. 

If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come 
in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. 
Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set 
to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. 

Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me.

 

 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have 
an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have 
no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed 
the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app 
you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover 
Settings > Motion

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not 
to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get 
the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came 
yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, 
Sierra Blue, 256GB.

(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will 
post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)

 

Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my 
package would be delivered today, not Monday. 

 

We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the 
wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be 
similar…

You know what happens when you assume?...

 

After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple 
Accessibility.

I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit 
with us through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had 
us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but 
it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.

 

I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping.  
It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip.

 

I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely.  
The case came with a surprise; a stand.  It is like the decrotive plate 
holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at 
one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in 
landscape mode.

 

I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below.

 

The Sound.  Well, I was expecting better sound.  I was not expecting 
this quality of sound.  When in that little stand that came with the case, 
sitting at 

Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Carolyn]

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never,
yet, now, it is locking on its own. 

 

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess! 

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RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Carolyn]

Do you mean turn off then back on? Or not? And if not, what do I do to reboot, 
please? 

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Have you rebooted your phone. I still experience the opposite at times, I have 
it set to lock after 1 minute and found that in previous versions of iOS, e.g. 
14, 13, it would sometimes not lock and I am pretty sure it is still doing that 
in iOS 15 as well. I can fix this by rebooting the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 27, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

 

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never, yet, now, it is 
locking on its own. 

 

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess! 

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RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[Carolyn]

That is the number I used a couple of weeks back, when I called them. 

-Original Message-
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regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

Richard did Apple change their accessibility number? I have it in my contacts, 
and I don’t use it very much. However, I’d like to use it when I need it and I 
don’t want to have to try to find another number. I have it as 877-204-3930. 
Just curious because the number you gave was so totally different. Thanks.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It will only charge faster if you pair it with at least a 20 Watt wall 
adapter. If you want to make sure you are future proof for years to come I 
would probably say get at least a USB-C wall adapter capable of 30 Watts or 
more.


-Original Message-
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hevener
Sent: September 27, 2021 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

I agree with Richard re u calling apple for the answer.  However, having said 
that, yesterday, I heard a consumer report addressing the topic of whether the 
usb C lightening cable is really any faster than the standard ones apple use to 
include with their phones.  Both were tested and the usb c lightening cable 
actually did charge faster than the traditional one.  

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Subject: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?

Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your phone 
or does it not really give you A faster charging time?

Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just not 
bother and save my money for something else?

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RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

[Carolyn]

I did that after updating to 15; should I do it again? 

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Yes, I meant turning the phone off completely and then turn it back on after 20 
or 30 seconds.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 28, 2021 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Do you mean turn off then back on? Or not? And if not, what do I do to reboot, 
please? 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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Subject: RE: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

Have you rebooted your phone. I still experience the opposite at times, I have 
it set to lock after 1 minute and found that in previous versions of iOS, e.g. 
14, 13, it would sometimes not lock and I am pretty sure it is still doing that 
in iOS 15 as well. I can fix this by rebooting the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 27, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locked or unlocked - no email notification.

 

Also, I checked, and my screen lock is still set for never, yet, now, it is 
locking on its own. 

 

I am beginning to think that 15 is a great big mess! 

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RE: Blind Apples, another list

[Carolyn]

What would I get from the new list that I don't get here or on Only Apple? 

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Thanks Richard for the info.  I will also join the list.  I didn't know of it 
until you sent this message to us on this list.

On 9/28/21, Wendy Lin  wrote:
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> :)
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Do not Disturb run amuck!

[Carolyn]

Somehow, yesterday, as far as I can tell, out of the blue,
my phone got on Do Not Disturb. I happened to check it this
morning and had nine missed calls. Why that happened, I have
no idea at all. 

 

I went into Focus to see if I could get rid of what I set up
to turn it on at  church, because it turned it on when I got
to the address, but it did not turn it off when I left. I
could not find the setting for the address I entered. This
is irritating, and I hope someone has an idea for relief of
this problem - thanks in advance. 

 

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RE: Sample of detected text in iOS 15 using the 13 pro

[Carolyn]

That is good to know, thanks, Sieghard. Makes me more eager to get that 13 
minni. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sample of detected text in iOS 15 using the 13 pro

The instant speaking in the camera app is pretty cool, it's a bit like the 
short text channel in Seeing AI and I just tried it with a few food packages 
and it worked quite well.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 30, 2021 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Sample of detected text in iOS 15 using the 13 pro

 

FYI.

From: blindapp...@groups.io   
mailto:blindapp...@groups.io> > On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:21 AM
To: blindapp...@groups.io  
Subject: [BlindApples] Sample of detected text in iOS 15 using the 13 pro

 

What I am going to paste below is from a picture I took with the standard 
iPhone camera of a fancy cross stitch my niece did of a one of my all time 
favorite quotes by Victor Hugo.

I got focus on the photo and double tapped, flicked up to show details, then 
double tapped on the detected text button.

For those who do not know about cross stitch, it is using thread on a cloth mat 
and making fancy letters and a design around the border.  It is in a wooden 
frame.  It is almost a cross between hand writing and calligraphy. 

Then, I used the VoiceOver 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what VoiceOver said 
to the clipboard.  This is my first experiment with this.

 

I will put the corrected version immediately following what iOS 15 did with the 
photo.

 

Detected text *

Have courage por the great sorrows

of Life,

fund patience por the small ones.

find when you have laboriously

Accomplished your dally tasks,

60

to sleep in Peace

Bod is Awake. to sleep in Peace

 

Actual text:

Have courage for the great sorrows of life

And patience for the small ones

And when you have laboriously accomplished your daily tasks,

Go to sleep in peace,

God is awake.

 

I’m not sure why it repeats “sleep in peace” but it does.

 

I think it is a pretty good job for something that is very difficult to scan 
with any OCR software and being just part of the camera feature in iOS 15.  
Apple deserves credit for making it easy to find out what something says just 
by using the built-in camera.

 

Also, Voice Dream Scanner did not do any better than the camera did.

 

Another thing that is certainly more active since much of the processing is 
done on the phone is that if VoiceOver is focused on the View Finder, it will 
start speaking the objects in the view finder immediately.  Like Computer 
screen with keyboard…

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

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