Re: Having issues reading the time using Eva full voice on iPhone 13 using latest iOS

[Kevin Gibbs]

I have sent a note to accessibility, but heard nothing. Not even automatic 
reply.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2023, at 1:12 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Any solutions? I suppose I’ll send a note to Accessibility.  Anyone have any 
> issues with other voices?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've noticed this as well.
>> 
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
>> Gibbs
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 12:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Having issues reading the time using Eva full voice on iPhone 13 
>> using latest iOS
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> My preferred voice is the full version of Eva.  However, for the last 
>> several iOS iterations, I have noticed that, more often than not, the voice 
>> will read the time incorrectly.  What should be spoken as two oh seven PM 
>> will end up being spoken as two minutes zero seconds PM.  This is not 
>> consistent.  Occcasionally, Eva will read the time as one would expect.  But 
>> most of the time I get the misspoken time I demonstrated above.  Other 
>> voices don't seem to have this problem.  Has anyone ever noticed this with 
>> Eva or any other voice?  Is there a recipe for fixing this problem?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>> 
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Re: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I could not find a start new thread button on ViPhone either.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2023, at 6:34 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> There can be a “New Conversation” button on the web page, but it needs to be 
> enabled by the Admin of the group. 
> I believe the vi-phone list does allow this. But I could not find this button 
> for the macvisionaries list.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Once again, the goal is not to use Apple mail at all. The question was how 
>> to start a new thread, while looking at the user interface on the web.  It 
>> does not appear possible.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 19, 2023, at 1:50 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could you just go to Compose and then enter the list address or 
>>> what/whomever the recipient would be? 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my 
>>> iPhone and not using Mail?
>>> 
>>> Yes, this message does have more detail but as I do all my interaction with 
>>> this list on either my iPhone or Windows 10 computer and their email 
>>> clients, I can't help with interacting with it via a web interface. 
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  On Mar 19, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  Thank you for your response. I guess I was not clear. I know how to send 
>>> an email to the list. I was wondering how you start a new conversation if 
>>> you are reading list on the web. There is no new topic or start thread 
>>> command in the Google groups interface that I could find. I hope this is 
>>> clearer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  Kevin,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  1.I’m going to answer using the native Mail app since you didn’t 
>>> mention what you use for email on your iPhone. I’m assuming you already 
>>> have an account set up in Mail.
>>>  2.Open the Mail app.
>>>  3.Execute the Compose button which is found at the lower bottom 
>>> right of the screen.
>>>  4.You will be placed in a To: text box where you should enter 
>>> viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> . This is a live 
>>> link so you might be able to execute it from within an email message you 
>>> are reviewing on your iPhone with the Mail app although I’m not exactly 
>>> sure what happens in that case.
>>>  5.Single finger swipe right to you reach the Subject text box and 
>>> enter an appropriate subject for your new message.
>>>  6.Single finger swipe right until you hear Message content, 
>>> message body which is a large text box for entering your new message 
>>> content with the on screen keyboard.
>>>  7.After you’ve completed your message, place focus on the Send 
>>> button in the top upper right corner of the screen and execute it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Good luck.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  -Original Message-
>>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kevin Gibbs
>>>  Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 12:32 AM
>>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  Subject: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my 
>>> iPhone and not using Mail?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Subject says it all.  I’m writing this on my computer using Apple 
>>> Mail.  I was looking at ViPhone on my phone and wanted to start a new 
>>> conversation and couldn’t figure out how.  There has to be a way to start a 
>>> new topic in this group from one’s phone without starting with an e-mail 
>>> generated from Apple Mail.  Right?  How does one do that?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Once again, the goal is not to use Apple mail at all. The question was how to 
start a new thread, while looking at the user interface on the web.  It does 
not appear possible.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2023, at 1:50 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Could you just go to Compose and then enter the list address or 
> what/whomever the recipient would be? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone 
> and not using Mail?
> 
> Yes, this message does have more detail but as I do all my interaction with 
> this list on either my iPhone or Windows 10 computer and their email clients, 
> I can't help with interacting with it via a web interface. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 19, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>Thank you for your response. I guess I was not clear. I know how to send 
> an email to the list. I was wondering how you start a new conversation if you 
> are reading list on the web. There is no new topic or start thread command in 
> the Google groups interface that I could find. I hope this is clearer.
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Kevin,
> 
> 
> 
>1.I’m going to answer using the native Mail app since you didn’t 
> mention what you use for email on your iPhone. I’m assuming you already have 
> an account set up in Mail.
>2.Open the Mail app.
>3.Execute the Compose button which is found at the lower bottom 
> right of the screen.
>4.You will be placed in a To: text box where you should enter 
> viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> . This is a live 
> link so you might be able to execute it from within an email message you are 
> reviewing on your iPhone with the Mail app although I’m not exactly sure what 
> happens in that case.
>5.Single finger swipe right to you reach the Subject text box and 
> enter an appropriate subject for your new message.
>6.Single finger swipe right until you hear Message content, 
> message body which is a large text box for entering your new message content 
> with the on screen keyboard.
>7.After you’ve completed your message, place focus on the Send 
> button in the top upper right corner of the screen and execute it.
> 
> 
> 
>Good luck.
> 
> 
> 
>Alan Lemly
> 
> 
> 
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Gibbs
>Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 12:32 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my 
> iPhone and not using Mail?
> 
> 
> 
>Subject says it all.  I’m writing this on my computer using Apple 
> Mail.  I was looking at ViPhone on my phone and wanted to start a new 
> conversation and couldn’t figure out how.  There has to be a way to start a 
> new topic in this group from one’s phone without starting with an e-mail 
> generated from Apple Mail.  Right?  How does one do that?
> 
> 
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Re: Having issues reading the time using Eva full voice on iPhone 13 using latest iOS

[Kevin Gibbs]

Any solutions? I suppose I’ll send a note to Accessibility.  Anyone have any 
issues with other voices?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I've noticed this as well.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 12:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Having issues reading the time using Eva full voice on iPhone 13 
> using latest iOS
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> My preferred voice is the full version of Eva.  However, for the last several 
> iOS iterations, I have noticed that, more often than not, the voice will read 
> the time incorrectly.  What should be spoken as two oh seven PM will end up 
> being spoken as two minutes zero seconds PM.  This is not consistent.  
> Occcasionally, Eva will read the time as one would expect.  But most of the 
> time I get the misspoken time I demonstrated above.  Other voices don't seem 
> to have this problem.  Has anyone ever noticed this with Eva or any other 
> voice?  Is there a recipe for fixing this problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> 
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Re: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Thank you for your response. I guess I was not clear. I know how to send an email to the list. I was wondering how you start a new conversation if you are reading list on the web. There is no new topic or start thread command in the Google groups interface that I could find. I hope this is clearer.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 19, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Kevin, I’m going to answer using the native Mail app since you didn’t mention what you use for email on your iPhone. I’m assuming you already have an account set up in Mail.Open the Mail app.Execute the Compose button which is found at the lower bottom right of the screen.You will be placed in a To: text box where you should enter viphone@googlegroups.com. This is a live link so you might be able to execute it from within an email message you are reviewing on your iPhone with the Mail app although I’m not exactly sure what happens in that case.Single finger swipe right to you reach the Subject text box and enter an appropriate subject for your new message.Single finger swipe right until you hear Message content, message body which is a large text box for entering your new message content with the on screen keyboard.After you’ve completed your message, place focus on the Send button in the top upper right corner of the screen and execute it. Good luck. Alan Lemly -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin GibbsSent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 12:32 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail? Subject says it all.  I’m writing this on my computer using Apple Mail.  I was looking at ViPhone on my phone and wanted to start a new conversation and couldn’t figure out how.  There has to be a way to start a new topic in this group from one’s phone without starting with an e-mail generated from Apple Mail.  Right?  How does one do that? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9145CDF2-659E-41C4-A5B1-194B64FC3AF5%40gmail.com.



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Having issues reading the time using Eva full voice on iPhone 13 using latest iOS

[Kevin Gibbs]

Hi folks,

My preferred voice is the full version of Eva.  However, for the last several 
iOS iterations, I have noticed that, more often than not, the voice will read 
the time incorrectly.  What should be spoken as two oh seven PM will end up 
being spoken as two minutes zero seconds PM.  This is not consistent.  
Occcasionally, Eva will read the time as one would expect.  But most of the 
time I get the misspoken time I demonstrated above.  Other voices don’t seem to 
have this problem.  Has anyone ever noticed this with Eva or any other voice?  
Is there a recipe for fixing this problem?

Thanks,
Kevin

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How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Subject says it all.  I’m writing this on my computer using Apple Mail.  I was 
looking at ViPhone on my phone and wanted to start a new conversation and 
couldn’t figure out how.  There has to be a way to start a new topic in this 
group from one’s phone without starting with an e-mail generated from Apple 
Mail.  Right?  How does one do that?

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Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

I doubt it.  Let’s go with a sledgehammer  Before I mess with screens for a 
piece of all tech

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Kevin.
>  
> I know it’s an older phone,
>  
> But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the wipe
> And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice
>  
> Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit 
> passcode to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory 
> restore, can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my 
> problem all along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
> of water for a few hours.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice
>  
> Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
> machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
> process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
> would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
> I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
> while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
> screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
> all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
> manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
> that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not 
> a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the 
> reset is not a certainty.  
>  
> My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
> to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was 
> told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
> acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
> responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  
>  
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
> RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
> respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
> without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  
>  
> Any help appreciated.  
> Best,
> Kevin
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Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit passcode 
to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory restore, 
can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my problem all 
along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
> of water for a few hours.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice
>  
> Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
> machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
> process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
> would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
> I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
> while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
> screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
> all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
> manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
> that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not 
> a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the 
> reset is not a certainty.  
>  
> My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
> to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was 
> told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
> acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
> responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  
>  
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
> RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
> respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
> without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  
>  
> Any help appreciated.  
> Best,
> Kevin
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Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
> while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
> screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
> all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
> manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
> that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not 
> a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the 
> reset is not a certainty.  
> 
> My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
> to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was 
> told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
> acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
> responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  
> 
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
> RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
> respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
> without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  
> 
> Any help appreciated.  
> Best,
> Kevin
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Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is 
not a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens 
to the reset is not a certainty.  

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I 
was told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  

Any help appreciated.  
Best,
Kevin

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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I did manage to pull off the phone to phone transfer from an iPhone 7 running 
iOS 14X to an iPhone 13 running 15X and all seems to be going just fine.  
Thanks for all the help.
Best,
Kevin

> On Dec 5, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Please post a support article explaining your comment:  "the extra iCloud 
> temporary storage to hold all the data on his phone in iCloud, he needs iOS 
> 15". Following my signature, I'm posting an Apple Support article discussing 
> the iPhone Quick Start phone to phone transfer process and it mentions 
> nothing about iOS 15 and iCloud storage. It can be found at the following 
> link:
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> Use Quick Start to transfer data to a new iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch
> 
> Set up your new iOS device automatically using an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch.
> Set up your new device with Quick Start
> 
> Quick Start occupies both devices, so make sure that you choose a time when 
> you won't need to use your current device for several minutes.
> 
> A new iPhone showing the Quick Start screen. The instructions ask you to put 
> your old device near your new one. 
> 
>Turn on your new device and place it near your current device.
>A screen appears on your current device that offers the option of using 
> your Apple ID to set up your new device. Make sure that it's the Apple ID 
> that you want to use, then tap Continue. If you don't see the option to 
> continue on your current device, make sure that Bluetooth is turned on.
>Wait for an animation to appear on your new device. Hold your current 
> device over the new device, then center the animation in the viewfinder.
>Wait for a message that says Finish on New [Device]. If you can't use your 
> current device's camera, tap Authenticate Manually, then follow the onscreen 
> steps.
>When asked, enter your current device's passcode on your new device. Then 
> follow the instructions to set up Face ID or Touch ID on your new device.
>When you see the Transfer Data from [Device] screen, tap Continue to begin 
> transferring your data from your previous device to your new device. Or you 
> can tap Other Options to transfer apps, data, and settings from your most 
> recent iCloud backup or transfer from a backup on your computer.
> 
> Keep your devices near each other and plugged in to power until the data 
> migration process is complete. Transfer times can vary based on factors such 
> as network conditions and the amount of data being transferred.
> Still need help?
> 
>Learn what to do if you can't activate your iPhone.
>If you need more help, contact Apple Support.
> 
> Published Date: September 20, 2021
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new 
> iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
> 
> Possibly. But if he wants the extra iCloud temporary storage to hold all the 
> data on his phone in iCloud, he needs iOS 15.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/5/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Kelly,
>> 
>> I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a 
>> wireless phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a 
>> version of iOS that supports this transfer and it must not be running 
>> a newer version of iOS than the target iPhone. Other than that, I 
>> don't believe there are any restrictions.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>> Kelly Pierce 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to 
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>> 
>> You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs 
>> transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15 
>> so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to 
>> upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your 
>> Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent 
>> by text message to download the apps from the app store.
>> 
>> I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed 
>> up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that 
>> backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks 
>&

Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

At what point should I remove the SIMM card from my iPhone 7.  Can it be 
placed in my iPhone 13?  do I need something else?

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:06:35 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and 
> not from my pone?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything 
>> including ring tones.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Kevin 
>> Gibbs
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone 
>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to 
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>
>>  
>>
>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good 
>> because my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac 
>> mini is not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless 
>> transfer, I should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini 
>> as backups.  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to 
>> that.   But I should be covered.  Right?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. 
>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts 
>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from 
>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You 
>> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes. 
>>
>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Guys, 
>> > 
>> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. 
>> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, 
>> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient 
>> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take 
>> forever. 
>> > 
>> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the 
>> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible 
>> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC 
>> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any 
>> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important? 
>> > 
>> > Thanks for any assistance or advice. 
>> > 
>> > Best, 
>> > Kevin 
>> > 
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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and 
not from my pone?

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com wrote:

> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything 
> including ring tones.  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Kevin 
> Gibbs
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
> *To:* VIPhone 
> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to 
> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>
>  
>
> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because 
> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is 
> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I 
> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as backups. 
>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But 
> I should be covered.  Right?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. 
> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts 
> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from 
> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You 
> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes. 
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote: 
> > 
> > Guys, 
> > 
> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. 
> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, 
> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient 
> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take 
> forever. 
> > 
> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the 
> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible 
> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC 
> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any 
> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important? 
> > 
> > Thanks for any assistance or advice. 
> > 
> > Best, 
> > Kevin 
> > 
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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

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when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because 
my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is 
not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I 
should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as backups. 
 should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But 
I should be covered.  Right?

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:

> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. 
> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts 
> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from 
> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You 
> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes.
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
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> > Guys,
> > 
> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. 
> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, 
> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient 
> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take 
> forever. 
> > 
> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the 
> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible 
> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC 
> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any 
> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
> > 
> > Thanks for any assistance or advice.
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> > Best,
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Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail.  I have an iPhone 7.  Historically, I 
always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 
most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient Mac mini 2010 and doing a 
hard transfer through iTunes.  This would take forever.  

It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the cloud and 
all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible for me to simply 
sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC and let it do its thing 
over night.  Is that an option?  Would it be any faster, more effective, more 
efficient?  Am I missing anything important?

Thanks for any assistance or advice.

Best,
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How do I turn Automatic Updates On or OFF on iPhone 7 with latest iOS installed.

[Kevin Gibbs]

My wife and I want to know how you can choose the setting to have Facebook and 
Facebook Messenger update automatically or not on iPhone 7.  

I look at my available updates every day and I think I’ve seen options for 
choosing Automatic Updates whenever there is an available update for either FB 
or FB Messenger.  Currently, both of these apps are up to date on both our 
devices.  So, I don’t have an option there.  Is there. Way to go somewhere and 
turn Auto Updates ON or OFF within either FB or the App Store?  

Thanks,
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Apple Watch Series 3 no longer automatically pairs when I first put it on and wake up iPhone 7

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

For the last couple weeks I’ve noticed that a behavior I rely on no longer 
works as expected.  Historically, I used to be able to connect my paired Apple 
Watch to my iPhone 7 by simply putting it on my wrist, turning it on and then 
waking up my iPhone.  Now, even though the Bluetooth is turned on and the phone 
says the watch is connected, I have to enter my password on my watch.  As far 
as I know, I shouldn’t have to do that.  Has something changed?  I did do the 
most recent software update but this was going on before that update and the 
update hasn’t changed a thing.  Is there a setting I have to restore in the 
Watch App or somewhere else?

Thanks,
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Problems getting iMessages on my Mac mini when sent to my phone and vice versa

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I recently discovered that my wife was sending me text messages that would show 
up on my iPad and computer but not on my phone.  I then told her to send to my 
phone number and messages she sent there would show up on my phone but not on 
my iPad or Mac mini 2010.  I went into preferences in messages but couldn’t add 
a phone number under where I could be reached.  How can I make sure that I get 
ALL my text messages on ALL my devices?

Thanks,
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Re: How to pause a voice memo on iPhone Seven

[Kevin Gibbs]

I figured it out.  Although, I don't remember this.  I always thought that 
Pause was the default.  But somehow, I have to tap to the left of the 
RECORD button to activate the pause option and then tap the PAUSE button 
itself, which had been the RECORD button, to get the recording to pause.   
 No idea how I'd do that if I were a completely blind person and it doesn't 
particularly matter.  But it seems to be working now.  I'm still convinced 
I didn't have to do the tap to the left of RECORD until today.  But 
whatever. 

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 4:16:09 PM UTC-5 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Guys,
> I have an iPhone 7 with the most current iOS. I have always been able to 
> make a voice memo recording and touch the record button to have it paused. 
> Suddenly, after pausing a few times today, I have suddenly lost that 
> ability. Every time I stop the recording recording ends. How do I restore 
> the pause function?
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> Thanks in advance for any help.
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How to pause a voice memo on iPhone seven

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Guys,
I have an iPhone 7 with the most current iOS. I have always been able to make a 
voice memo recording and touch the record button to have it paused. Suddenly, 
after pausing a few times today, I have suddenly lost that ability. Every time 
I stop the recording recording ends. How do I restore the pause function?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from my iPhone

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Trouble syncing iBooks between iPhone 7 running latest iOS 14.4x updated today and Mac mini 2010 running Sierra 1012.6

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,

I’m seldom here.  Have a bit of a head scratcher.  I’m trying to sync my iBooks 
library between my iPhone/iPad and my ancient 2010 Mac mini running Sierra 
10.12.6.  when I examined iBooks on my iPhone, I was told I had to update my 
Mac Mini to OS 10.12.  About this Mac says I’m running 10.12.6.  So, I figure 
I’m good.  But there are sample books on my iPhone that don’t appear on my Mac. 
 These books are potentially expensive and I would prefer to buy them once I 
know they’ll show up on all devices.  

I had initially signed in on one Apple ID and now may wish to try signing in on 
another on my Mac.  But don’t know how to sign out on my Mac to sign back in.  
Have no interest in signing all the way out of iCloud in Preferences.  That 
would suck.

If you could, please write back and copy me at kevj...@gmail.com 
 to make sure I see this since I almost never visit 
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Thanks,
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Re: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014

[Kevin Gibbs]

Hi Robert,

No.  I’m a mere mortal without access to betas.  :). I ended up calling 
Accessibility.  Was shocked to learn that they answer the phones 24x7.  A guy 
named Jeremy, based in Tennessee, walked me through the process for updating 
the iPad using my ancient Mac mini and a cable.  I left him a great review.  
Thing is, the customer service comment form was not really accessible using VO. 
 I used the vision I had to fill out the form and forgot to complain about the 
form itself.  Oh well.  All’s well that ends well.

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
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> by chance did you run the iPadOS beta? If so then you will need to go to 
> settings/generalprofile and remove that profile.
>> - Original Message - 
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>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 1:25 PM
>> Subject: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014
>> 
>> My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it charged 
>> to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then says that 
>> an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some reading and 
>> says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial copy of this 
>> OS somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting the download 
>> again.  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to do.  I'm 
>> assuming that if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be given the 
>> message to try downloading and installing it.  the machine works fine.  but 
>> I'd like to update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited 
>> iCloud and signed back in without any change to the download problem.  I've 
>> tried this on several different days to allow for extreme traffic 
>> downloading the update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?
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Re: Weak Security Being Reported

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I had the same problem after updating my iPhone7 to 14.1 from 13.7, and 
after doing a firmware update on my Deco router.  A second subsequent 
firmware update has apparently fixed the problem because I no longer get a 
week security message.  It has nothing to do with passwords.  It's about 
the WPA option.  I don't know enough to say more.  

On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:45:43 AM UTC-6 CJ wrote:

> Obviously, but since I couldn’t tell what router was being talked about, I 
> answered the question and used my own router as an example. If I’d known 
> what router we were talking about, I would have googled the IP address for 
> that router and provided that information.
>
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> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Simon 
> A Fogarty
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 8:24 AM
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Weak Security Being Reported
>
>  
>
> But not all routers are as helpful as netgear,
>
>  
>
> Yes most have a web interface which you can get through your browser,
>
> But the IP address can be different 
>
> At least the last 2 octets 
>
>  
>
> But note that some routers have a wht can only be called crap interface,
>
>  
>
> Fritz box can be included in this but it can be worked through if you take 
> your time.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Christopher 
> Chaltain
> *Sent:* Sunday, 22 November 2020 1:41 am
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Weak Security Being Reported
>
>  
>
> You would change this setting on your router. The thread below is 
> truncated, so I don’t know what router we’re talking about here, but on my 
> NetGear, I can use a browser on a computer on the same network as my router 
> and go to 192.168.1.1 to get into my router’s settings. I can also use an 
> app on my phone to change the same settings.
>
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> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Les 
> Kriegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:45 AM
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>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
> How did you do that? Was that through software or a change on the actual 
> router itself?
>
> Les
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone  
> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2020 10:18 PM
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Weak Security Being Reported
>
>  
>
>  I had the same message having week security on my guest network. It has 
> nothing to do with the password being strong or not the way I was able to 
> fix it  was that it had not been set
>
> to WPA to personal once I fixed that it took care of the problem.
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Re: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014

[Kevin Gibbs]

Thanks for the advice.  No idea they’d actually answer on the weekend.  I’ll 
definitely keep this phone number in my Contacts.

Best,

Kevin

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Great! glad to hear you got it working.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Richard,
>> That’s exactly what I did.  Imagine my surprise when they actually answered 
>> the phone just now and solved my problem by guiding me through the steps to 
>> update the iPad with a cable connected to iTunes on my ancient Mac mini.  
>> This is a process I had assiduously avoided for the six years I’ve owned 
>> this iPad.  All seems to be well now.  Thanks for the advice.  I’ll 
>> definitely keep this number in my phone for future use.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Kevin
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Richard Turner >> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My only idea woud be to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can do a 
>>> screen share and spot the issue.
>>> 877-204-3930
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>  
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
>>> <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cc4e4f61b97c24021e58108d88e8dffaa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637416087811151304%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=0ADjxHpXjPqpYRl0J3VY1qUnBSO5rm8uacgeFtTWA58%3D=0>
>>>  
>>> *I’m not the card shark
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Kevin Gibbs
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:25 PM
>>> To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014
>>>  
>>> My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it 
>>> charged to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then 
>>> says that an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some 
>>> reading and says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial 
>>> copy of this OS somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting 
>>> the download again.  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to 
>>> do.  I'm assuming that if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be 
>>> given the message to try downloading and installing it.  the machine works 
>>> fine.  but I'd like to update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have 
>>> already exited iCloud and signed back in without any change to the download 
>>> problem.  I've tried this on several different days to allow for extreme 
>>> traffic downloading the update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?
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Re: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014

[Kevin Gibbs]

Richard,
That’s exactly what I did.  Imagine my surprise when they actually answered the 
phone just now and solved my problem by guiding me through the steps to update 
the iPad with a cable connected to iTunes on my ancient Mac mini.  This is a 
process I had assiduously avoided for the six years I’ve owned this iPad.  All 
seems to be well now.  Thanks for the advice.  I’ll definitely keep this number 
in my phone for future use.

Best,
Kevin

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> My only idea woud be to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can do a 
> screen share and spot the issue.
> 877-204-3930
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D=0>
>  
> *I’m not the card shark
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Gibbs
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:25 PM
> To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014
>  
> My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it charged 
> to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then says that 
> an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some reading and 
> says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial copy of this OS 
> somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting the download again. 
>  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to do.  I'm assuming that 
> if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be given the message to try 
> downloading and installing it.  the machine works fine.  but I'd like to 
> update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited iCloud and 
> signed back in without any change to the download problem.  I've tried this 
> on several different days to allow for extreme traffic downloading the 
> update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?
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Re: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014

[Kevin Gibbs]

Can you do a screen share with an iPad?  I had no idea.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> My only idea woud be to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can do a 
> screen share and spot the issue.
> 877-204-3930
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> *I’m not the card shark
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:25 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014
>  
> My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it charged 
> to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then says that 
> an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some reading and 
> says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial copy of this OS 
> somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting the download again. 
>  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to do.  I'm assuming that 
> if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be given the message to try 
> downloading and installing it.  the machine works fine.  but I'd like to 
> update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited iCloud and 
> signed back in without any change to the download problem.  I've tried this 
> on several different days to allow for extreme traffic downloading the 
> update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?
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Re: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014

[Kevin Gibbs]

Yes.  Upgraded to something like 250GB when my iPad wouldn’t update.  It’s only 
a 60GB box with 25GB on it.  Storage can’t be the issue.

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Have you checked your storage to see if you have enough to accommodate the 
> update/ 
> On 11/21/2020 2:25 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>> My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it charged 
>> to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then says that 
>> an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some reading and 
>> says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial copy of this 
>> OS somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting the download 
>> again.  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to do.  I'm 
>> assuming that if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be given the 
>> message to try downloading and installing it.  the machine works fine.  but 
>> I'd like to update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited 
>> iCloud and signed back in without any change to the download problem.  I've 
>> tried this on several different days to allow for extreme traffic 
>> downloading the update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?
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iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014

[Kevin Gibbs]

My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it 
charged to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then 
says that an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some 
reading and says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial 
copy of this OS somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting 
the download again.  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to 
do.  I'm assuming that if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be 
given the message to try downloading and installing it.  the machine works 
fine.  but I'd like to update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have 
already exited iCloud and signed back in without any change to the download 
problem.  I've tried this on several different days to allow for extreme 
traffic downloading the update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?

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Re: Contacts Display Order, How & Where To Change

[Kevin Gibbs]

 That did the trick. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Happens to everyone at least once. You may check the contacts or phone
> settings, and see if the contact display is set to first/last name or
> the reverse.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/12/20, Mike B  wrote:
>> Sorry folks, I meant to send this to myself.
>> 
>> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
>> program.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mike B
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 5:57 AM
>> Subject: Contacts Display Order, How & Where To Change
>> 
>> 
>> Original Message
>>  From: Kevin Gibbs, kevj...@gmail.com
>>  Guys,
>> 
>>  My wife has noticed something weird this morning.  All of her e-mail is
>> displaying with the sender’s name inverted, last name first.  Instead of
>> something like “Forks Over Knives,” which is a magazine, it says, “Knives
>> Forks Over.”  Or, try something like University of Pennsylvania changed to
>> Pennsylvania University Of.  We have no idea why.  She thinks it has
>> something to do with the latest iOS update, 14.2, which she just installed.
>> 
>> I’m in the process of installing the same update on my iPhone 7.  She has an
>> 
>> iPhone7 Plus.
>>  Have any of you ever heard of anything like this?  I never have.  If it
>> turns out to be the iOS update, I’m sure the user base will climb down
>> Apple’s
>> throat and they’ll deal instantly.
>> 
>>  Best,
>>  Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Have her check Settings, contacts, and just after sort order it should
>> be:Display Order First, Last
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Kevin Gibbs
>>  Richard,
>>  that did the trick.  Pam has no idea how that setting got altered.  All's
>> 
>> well that ends well.  thanks again.
>>  Kevin
>> 
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Re: Sender's names inverted in Mail on iPhone Wy? Asking for a friend

[Kevin Gibbs]

Richard,
that did the trick.  Pam has no idea how that setting got altered.  All's 
well that ends well.  thanks again.

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:12:37 PM UTC-6 Richard Turner wrote:

> Have her check Settings, contacts, and just after sort order it should 
>  be:Display Order First, Last 
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
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> On Nov 11, 2020, at 9:08 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
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> Guys,
>
>
>
> My wife has noticed something weird this morning.  All of her e-mail is 
> displaying with the sender’s name inverted, last name first.  Instead of 
> something like “Forks Over Knives,” which is a magazine, it says, “Knives 
> Forks Over.”  Or, try something like University of Pennsylvania changed to 
> Pennsylvania University Of.  We have no idea why.  She thinks it has 
> something to do with the latest iOS update, 14.2, which she just installed. 
>  I’m in the process of installing the same update on my iPhone 7.  She has 
> an iPhone7 Plus.  
>
>
>
> Have any of you ever heard of anything like this?  I never have.  If it 
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> Kevin
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Sender's names inverted in Mail on iPhone Wy? Asking for a friend

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

My wife has noticed something weird this morning.  All of her e-mail is 
displaying with the sender’s name inverted, last name first.  Instead of 
something like “Forks Over Knives,” which is a magazine, it says, “Knives Forks 
Over.”  Or, try something like University of Pennsylvania changed to 
Pennsylvania University Of.  We have no idea why.  She thinks it has something 
to do with the latest iOS update, 14.2, which she just installed.  I’m in the 
process of installing the same update on my iPhone 7.  She has an iPhone7 Plus. 
 



Have any of you ever heard of anything like this?  I never have.  If it turns 
out to be the iOS update, I’m sure the user base will climb down Apple’s throat 
and they’ll deal instantly.

Best,
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Re: iPhone 7 always sends iCloud mail from me.com instead. why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I had tried that without success.  See my earlier e-mail concerning turning off 
the me address to solve the problem.  Someone else said that the address would 
not consistently remain turned off.  I haven’t encountered that problem yet.  
I’ll keep this thread around in case I get into trouble again.  

Thanks,
Kevin

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a bit behind on emails. So I apologize if you have received an answer to 
> your problem.
> 
> When composing an email, if you tap on the from field a drop down window will 
> appear with all emails that you use on your phone to send & receive emails. 
> Tap on the email address in which you want to send the email from, by tapping 
> on the email address it will close the drop down window & the selected email 
> will be displayed in the from field of your out going email.
> 
> Donna
>  
>> 
>> Just to keep the list in the loop, someone named Noe Villeda was kind 
>> enough to reply to me privately and ask if I had set iCloud as my default 
>> account.  Yes.  It has no effect.  How do I go and edit servers on an 
>> existing account on an iPhone7 running iOS14?
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Kevin Gibbs >> <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Really sorry to bother you.  but I’m ripping what’s left of my hair out.  
>>> For some reason, I’ve very recently noticed that I can’t seem to send mail 
>>> from my iCloud account on my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14.  For some 
>>> reason, when I send an e-mail from my iCloud account, it sends from 
>>> kevj...@me.com <mailto:kevj...@me.com> instead of kevj...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:kevj...@icloud.com>.  I can’t seem to find the settings to change 
>>> outgoing servers or default sender address for any of my accounts, 
>>> particularly my iCloud account.  It’s driving me mad because some of my 
>>> favorite mailing lists are expecting me to contribute via icloud.com 
>>> <http://icloud.com/> and I can’t seem to do it.  I get the expected Mail 
>>> Delivery subsystem message.  Curiously, I can reply to an already existing 
>>> thread.  But I can’t start a new one.  I appear to be able to send a new 
>>> message to a mailing list that expects me from iCloud from my Mac mini, I 
>>> think.Any help greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
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Re: iPhone 7 always sends iCloud mail from me.com instead. why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

It seems to be working for me now. It’s only been one day.  I will preserve 
this thread and, if I have any problems, I will come back here and report.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 10:20 PM, D K  wrote:
> 
> 
> hello,
> 
> I for one would really like to know how it goes for you. If this switch stays 
> turned off for you I will give it another try. However I’ve done this several 
> times and after a couple minutes and always reverts back to the on position 
> so I have both my iCloud email switch turned on and my.me switch turned on 
> even though I turned it off.
> 
> Again please keep me informed.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 8:16 PM Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> I just made the change within Mail.  Like I said, it was buried at the 
>> bottom of everything.  I’ll look at it to make sure that it stays fixed.  
>> Thanks for letting me know so I continue to monitor it.  
>> 
>> I’ll let you know how I get on.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Kevin
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 9:29 PM, D K  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I am also having this problem with my icloud emails and I’ve reported it to 
>>> apple accessibility.
>>> However, at this point the problem still exists.
>>> I am temporarily using this gmail account for my email till the problem 
>>> gets corrected.
>>> I have unchecked the option to use .me email in iOS 14.1 and the switch 
>>> goes back to on. 
>>> Even on the icloud page, I cannot uncheck the .me account.
>>> A long time back, when I started to use icloud, apple was just bringing the 
>>> .me accounts onboard.
>>> Some people also still have a .mac account as well.
>>> I wish apple would allow people to disabble the .me or .mac accounts if 
>>> they are not using them.
>>> But, you know, apple knows best.
>>> 
>>> Again, at this point as far I can tell, the problem for me still exists.
>>> Oh yes, even if I select my .icloud account when sending email on my 
>>> iPhone, it will  switch back to .me.
>>> 
>>> So, I don’t know what to say.
>>> Till it’s corrected, I’ll stay with gmail.
>>> Also, this all started for me when I updated to iOS 14.
>>> 
>>> Later.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:46 PM Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Really sorry to bother you.  but I’m ripping what’s left of my hair out.  
>>>> For some reason, I’ve very recently noticed that I can’t seem to send mail 
>>>> from my iCloud account on my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14.  For some 
>>>> reason, when I send an e-mail from my iCloud account, it sends from 
>>>> kevj...@me.com instead of kevj...@icloud.com.  I can’t seem to find the 
>>>> settings to change outgoing servers or default sender address for any of 
>>>> my accounts, particularly my iCloud account.  It’s driving me mad because 
>>>> some of my favorite mailing lists are expecting me to contribute via 
>>>> icloud.comand I can’t seem to do it.  I get the expected Mail Delivery 
>>>> subsystem message.  Curiously, I can reply to an already existing thread.  
>>>> But I can’t start a new one.  I appear to be able to send a new message to 
>>>> a mailing list that expects me from iCloud from my Mac mini, I think.
>>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
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Re: iPhone 7 always sends iCloud mail from me.com instead. why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I just made the change within Mail.  Like I said, it was buried at the bottom 
of everything.  I’ll look at it to make sure that it stays fixed.  Thanks for 
letting me know so I continue to monitor it.  

I’ll let you know how I get on.

Best,
Kevin

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 9:29 PM, D K  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am also having this problem with my icloud emails and I’ve reported it to 
> apple accessibility.
> However, at this point the problem still exists.
> I am temporarily using this gmail account for my email till the problem gets 
> corrected.
> I have unchecked the option to use .me email in iOS 14.1 and the switch goes 
> back to on. 
> Even on the icloud page, I cannot uncheck the .me account.
> A long time back, when I started to use icloud, apple was just bringing the 
> .me accounts onboard.
> Some people also still have a .mac account as well.
> I wish apple would allow people to disabble the .me or .mac accounts if they 
> are not using them.
> But, you know, apple knows best.
> 
> Again, at this point as far I can tell, the problem for me still exists.
> Oh yes, even if I select my .icloud account when sending email on my iPhone, 
> it will  switch back to .me.
> 
> So, I don’t know what to say.
> Till it’s corrected, I’ll stay with gmail.
> Also, this all started for me when I updated to iOS 14.
> 
> Later.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:46 PM Kevin Gibbs  <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> 
> 
> Really sorry to bother you.  but I’m ripping what’s left of my hair out.  For 
> some reason, I’ve very recently noticed that I can’t seem to send mail from 
> my iCloud account on my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14.  For some reason, 
> when I send an e-mail from my iCloud account, it sends from kevj...@me.com 
> <mailto:kevj...@me.com> instead of kevj...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:kevj...@icloud.com>.  I can’t seem to find the settings to change 
> outgoing servers or default sender address for any of my accounts, 
> particularly my iCloud account.  It’s driving me mad because some of my 
> favorite mailing lists are expecting me to contribute via icloud.com 
> <http://icloud.com/>and I can’t seem to do it.  I get the expected Mail 
> Delivery subsystem message.  Curiously, I can reply to an already existing 
> thread.  But I can’t start a new one.  I appear to be able to send a new 
> message to a mailing list that expects me from iCloud from my Mac mini, I 
> think.Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Kevin
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Re: iPhone 7 always sends iCloud mail from me.com instead. why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I finally solved it.  Apparently, the option to alter the Sender address is 
at the very bottom under Settings, Mail, Accounts, iCloud.  Apparently, my 
me.com address was turned ON.  turning it off left the iCloud address 
partially dimmed but turned on.  I've subsequently tested by sending a test 
message to the target e-mail list successfully.  so sorry to bother you all.
On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:28:48 PM UTC-5 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Sorry.  Tried that without success.  How do I edit the servers and 
> settings for an existing account on an iPhone 7 running iOS14?
>
> On Oct 26, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Kevin,
>
> Open Email Settings. In the final section, Composing, is Default account. 
> Set that as you wish, and I think that will solve your problem.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
>
> Really sorry to bother you.  but I’m ripping what’s left of my hair out.  
> For some reason, I’ve very recently noticed that I can’t seem to send mail 
> from my iCloud account on my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14.  For some 
> reason, when I send an e-mail from my iCloud account, it sends from 
> kev...@me.com instead of kev...@icloud.com.  I can’t seem to find the 
> settings to change outgoing servers or default sender address for any of my 
> accounts, particularly my iCloud account.  It’s driving me mad because some 
> of my favorite mailing lists are expecting me to contribute via icloud.com 
> and I can’t seem to do it.  I get the expected Mail Delivery subsystem 
> message.  Curiously, I can reply to an already existing thread.  But I 
> can’t start a new one.  I appear to be able to send a new message to a 
> mailing list that expects me from iCloud from my Mac mini, I think.Any 
> help greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Kevin
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Re: iPhone 7 always sends iCloud mail from me.com instead. why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Sorry.  Tried that without success.  How do I edit the servers and settings for 
an existing account on an iPhone 7 running iOS14?

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Open Email Settings. In the final section, Composing, is Default account. Set 
> that as you wish, and I think that will solve your problem.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Really sorry to bother you.  but I’m ripping what’s left of my hair out.  
>> For some reason, I’ve very recently noticed that I can’t seem to send mail 
>> from my iCloud account on my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14.  For some 
>> reason, when I send an e-mail from my iCloud account, it sends from 
>> kevj...@me.com <mailto:kevj...@me.com> instead of kevj...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:kevj...@icloud.com>.  I can’t seem to find the settings to change 
>> outgoing servers or default sender address for any of my accounts, 
>> particularly my iCloud account.  It’s driving me mad because some of my 
>> favorite mailing lists are expecting me to contribute via icloud.com 
>> <http://icloud.com/> and I can’t seem to do it.  I get the expected Mail 
>> Delivery subsystem message.  Curiously, I can reply to an already existing 
>> thread.  But I can’t start a new one.  I appear to be able to send a new 
>> message to a mailing list that expects me from iCloud from my Mac mini, I 
>> think.Any help greatly appreciated.
>> 
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>> Best,
>> 
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Re: iPhone 7 always sends iCloud mail from me.com instead. why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Just to keep the list in the loop, someone named Noe Villeda was kind enough to 
reply to me privately and ask if I had set iCloud as my default account.  Yes.  
It has no effect.  How do I go and edit servers on an existing account on an 
iPhone7 running iOS14?

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> 
> 
> Really sorry to bother you.  but I’m ripping what’s left of my hair out.  For 
> some reason, I’ve very recently noticed that I can’t seem to send mail from 
> my iCloud account on my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14.  For some reason, 
> when I send an e-mail from my iCloud account, it sends from kevj...@me.com 
> instead of kevj...@icloud.com.  I can’t seem to find the settings to change 
> outgoing servers or default sender address for any of my accounts, 
> particularly my iCloud account.  It’s driving me mad because some of my 
> favorite mailing lists are expecting me to contribute via icloud.com and I 
> can’t seem to do it.  I get the expected Mail Delivery subsystem message.  
> Curiously, I can reply to an already existing thread.  But I can’t start a 
> new one.  I appear to be able to send a new message to a mailing list that 
> expects me from iCloud from my Mac mini, I think.Any help greatly 
> appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Kevin
> 
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iPhone 7 always sends iCloud mail from me.com instead. why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,


Really sorry to bother you.  but I’m ripping what’s left of my hair out.  
For some reason, I’ve very recently noticed that I can’t seem to send mail 
from my iCloud account on my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14.  For some 
reason, when I send an e-mail from my iCloud account, it sends from 
kevj...@me.com instead of kevj...@icloud.com.  I can’t seem to find the 
settings to change outgoing servers or default sender address for any of my 
accounts, particularly my iCloud account.  It’s driving me mad because some 
of my favorite mailing lists are expecting me to contribute via icloud.com 
and I can’t seem to do it.  I get the expected Mail Delivery subsystem 
message.  Curiously, I can reply to an already existing thread.  But I 
can’t start a new one.  I appear to be able to send a new message to a 
mailing list that expects me from iCloud from my Mac mini, I think.Any 
help greatly appreciated.


Best,

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How to reverse order of messages in Mail on iPhone 7

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For some reason, the e-mails on my iPhone are displayed in order which is 
the reverse of how they appear in Mail on my Mac mini 2010.  Yeah, I know, 
ancient box.  

Anyway, on my Mac, the most recent message is on the bottom of the list and 
the most recent message in a thread is at the bottom of the relevant 
thread.  On my phone, in Mail, there's a toggle button that says, "Most 
recent message on top."  But the order of messages is uneffected by either 
setting.  In either case, the most recent message is always at the top an 
the most recent message in a thread is at the top of that thread.  What am 
I doing wrong?  It's real annoying to have my mail messages displayed in 
two different orders depending on the device being used.  

I'm using iOS14 but that doesn't matter because this has always been this 
way since my first iPhone in 2010. 

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Savng the INZ file

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In the S A 511 documentation, it says that you don’t recommend saving the INZ 
file in the %Program Data% folder.  By default, any INZ file is saved in 
Program Data\Samplitude Pro X3 Suite, I think.  Are you saying that you 
shouldn’t save it in the Program Data main folder?  Are you saying you should 
save it somewhere other than the Program Data\Samplitude Pro X3 Suite Folder?  
Is it okay to save it in the default folder?  Please clarify.  

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Re: Need advice on best telecom management strategy when vacationing in the Netherlands and Germany for three weeks from US

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I just want to make clear that I don't want to  change my primary US cell 
provider from AT  So, not interested in switching to, say, T Mobile for 
the purposes of buying a international voice and data plan for this 
European vacation.

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Need advice on best telecom management strategy when vacationing in the Netherlands and Germany for three weeks from US

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Guys,

Need info on best option for telecom management when traveling from the US to 
the Netherlands and Germany.  My wife and I have iPhones which are unlocked, to 
the best of our knowledge.  Ideally, we need voice and data at a reasonable 
cost in Holland and Germany for three weeks.  

As I see it, our options are:

1.  Buy two local SIMM cards at Amsterdam airport with a large enough data 
allowance to send SMS, make local phone calls, upload photos to FB/Instagram 
and get directions here and there while traveling.  

2.  Get two data only cards from a purveyor like Gig Sky and use Skype for the 
voice/SMS component.  Need info on just how or whether one can forward an 
iPhone to a Skype number.  May not want to get any unwanted messages from 
people in the States because it’s election silly season.  On the other hand, 
would want to get message from home if house was in trouble while gone.  
decisions, decisions.  

3.  By a My Fi box, also with a local SIMM, and tether our phones to that.  
Turn Cellular Data off on phones and kill all push notifications that would 
otherwise be active in Wi-Fi environments to prevent unnecessary data 
consumption.   Again, use Skype or Google Voice or something else to have voice 
and SMS capabilities without buying an international voice and data plan from 
AT, which I assume is cost prohibitive in even the best case.  

Sorry this is such a long message.  Trying to imagine all the scenarios from 
which I have to choose.Have to make a decision fairly soon.  Hope one of 
you will answer.

Please CC reply to author in case I don’t get the chance to log into Google 
Groups to follow this message.  My preferences are set to No Mail because I 
visit this list so infrequently.  

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

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Compensating for key switches when transposing objects in Samplitude

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Recently, there was some discussion concerning unforeseen consequences of 
transposing MIDi events within objects when key switches outside the playing 
range of an instrument are concerned.  Since Samplitude lacks the ability to 
filter notes out of an object transposition selection, I suggest the following:

1.  If your object contains key switches which are assigned to keys outside the 
playing range of your MIDi keyboard, such that you have to access them by 
changing the octave of your MIDi keyboard, you will have to account for these 
when you transpose an entire MIDi object because there is as yet no way to 
eliminate the key switches when transposing the object.  The solution, near as 
I can tell, and I haven’t tested this, is this.  

2.  Before you transpose your object, take note of the MIDi note and number of 
the key switch or switches involved.  

3.  Let’s say that you have a key  switch at C0 and another at D0. Let’s say 
that you have transposed the MIDi object up a perfect 4th making your key 
switches F0 and G0.  

4.  I would suggest going to the first instance of your new F0 and choosing the 
command to select all notes of same pitch.  Right now, it isn’t clear what that 
command is in the v4 scripts because none is working.  

5.  In the hypothetical case of a perfect 4th transposition, down arrow 5 times 
and your F0 becomes C0 again. 

Now, do the same with your G0s, converting them to D0s once more.  
Now, here is a complication.  Let’s say that you are dealing with an advanced 
string part which invokes, say, five different key switches.  In this case, you 
have to take care not to transpose any key switches back to their original key 
in such a way that they collide with temporarily transposed key switches with 
which you have not yet dealt by putting them back in their original place.  In 
this case, the solution is probably to take care  to return your transposed key 
switches in reverse order of transposition.  

For example, if you transposed your key switches up a perfect 4th along with 
the entire object, you would want to start returning your key switches 
beginning with the lowest key switch.  In such a case, you would begin by 
transposing any key switch currently at F0 to C0.  Any switch at G0 would be 
D0, and so on.  

Similarly, if you transposed down, you would return your switches by 
transposing up beginning with the highest key switch.  

HTH,
Kevin

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Can't transfer music from iTunes 12.7x to iPhone 7 that is running iOS 10.x. Why not?

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> Guys,
> 
> Subject says it all.  Updated iTunes to latest version.  I know that apps and 
> music are now divorced.  Have not yet updated ipHone 7 to iOS 11, or mid 2010 
> Mac mini to from Sierra to High Sierra.  Want to avoid doing that for  a 
> while.  
> 
> Just added a few CDs to my iTunes library and wanted to add them to my phone 
> by syncing with cable.  Unfortunately, iTunes will not activate the sync 
> process the way it always did.  
> 
> In the past, I had issues that were solved by disconnecting my Skype USB 
> camera before attempting a cable sync or backup with iTunes.  This doesn’t 
> work now.  In fact, even my USB full QWERTY keyboard won’t work unless the 
> iPhone is disconnected.  As near as I can tell, the only imaginable reason 
> for this lack of operability must lie in the fact that iTunes 12x doesn’t 
> like iOS 10.  Will upgrading to iOS11 solve this problem?  More to the point, 
> will I also have to upgrade my mid 2010 Mac mini to High Sierra?  That’s 
> something I really am not interested in doing until I absolutely must.  If, 
> for some reason, this ancient box won’t tolerate High Sierra, I need to know 
> that, too.
> 
> Best,
> Kevin
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Dictation only works on my iPhone 6 when earphones are connected. Why?

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guys,

I’m finding that dictation only works on my iPhone 6 with iOS 9 or 10 when my 
earphones are connected.  Since my phones have a bad wire that causes only one 
ear to work, I assumed that the failure of dictation was global.  but, weirdly 
enough, when my phones are connected, I get a great dictation response.  I 
would prefer not to have to wear earphones, working or not, to use the 
dictation feature. Any ideas?  Dictation works fine on my iPad Air 2 without 
phones.  

Since i never visit this forum, I’d be grateful if responders would copy me at 
this address:
kevj...@me.com , in addition to replying to the group.  

thanks for understanding,
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Changing e-mail from all messages to most recent 150 in Pop3 Gmail account on iPhone 6

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guys,

I’m sorry if the subject line isn’t clear.  It used to be that my Gmail 
account, which is a Pop3 on my iPhone, used to only download the most recent 
150 messages, or so.  When I upgraded from my iPhone 4, running iOS 6.x, to my 
iPhone 6, running iOS 8 and then 9, my Pop3 account changed so that tens of 
thousands of e-mails were downloaded to my phone.  Space is not an issue.  but 
I really wish I could change this so that it works the way my iPhone 4 used to. 
 that is, I only want 150 messages, or less, on my phone unless I choose to 
“see more.”  Can this be changed?

thanks,
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Re: Changing e-mail from All Messages to most recent 150 in Pop3 Gmail account on iPhone 6 under iOS9.x

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So no go with Pop3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 21, 2016, at 4:21 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I habve a personal email accounts, two of which are aGmail ones, and an 
> Exchange account. I took a look threw the mail settings, and it appears that 
> you can now only do what you want with an Exchange account, unfortunately.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> guys,
>> 
>> I’m sorry if the subject line isn’t clear.  It used to be that my Gmail 
>> account, which is a Pop3 on my iPhone, used to only download the most recent 
>> 150 messages, or so.  When I upgraded from my iPhone 4, running iOS 6.x, to 
>> my iPhone 6, running iOS 8 and then 9, my Pop3 account changed so that tens 
>> of thousands of e-mails were downloaded to my phone.  Space is not an issue. 
>>  but I really wish I could change this so that it works the way my iPhone 4 
>> used to.  that is, I only want 150 messages, or less, on my phone unless I 
>> choose to “see more.”  Can this be changed?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Kevin
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Changing e-mail from All Messages to most recent 150 in Pop3 Gmail account on iPhone 6 under iOS9.x

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guys,

I’m sorry if the subject line isn’t clear.  It used to be that my Gmail 
account, which is a Pop3 on my iPhone, used to only download the most 
recent 150 messages, or so.  When I upgraded from my iPhone 4, running iOS 
6.x, to my iPhone 6, running iOS 8 and then 9, my Pop3 account changed so 
that tens of thousands of e-mails were downloaded to my phone.  Space is 
not an issue.  but I really wish I could change this so that it works the 
way my iPhone 4 used to.  that is, I only want 150 messages, or less, on my 
phone unless I choose to “see more.”  Can this be changed?

thanks,
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RE: IOS 9.2.1 and iTunes.

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 The thing is, my iPhone says that my software is up to date. So, I don't think 
I would ever see anything about this new update except on my iTunes. I am 
running Yosemite with what I believe to be the latest version of iTunes. I 
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IOS 9.2.1 and iTunes.

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Guys,
I have updated my phone to iOS 9.2.1 over Wi-Fi connected to AC.  Today, I 
added some CDs to my iTunes library on my mac mini.  I had to connect my iPhone 
to my Mac mini to transfer these to my iPhone.  I wish I did not have to do 
that.

When I connected my iPhone to my Mac mini, I received a message that there was 
a new iOS version.  I decided not to download it. I hit cancel.

Then, I saw a message saying that there was music on my phone that had not been 
transferred to my iTunes library. It was recommended that I not update my 
iPhone software until I transferred this material.  I allowed the new CDs to be 
transferred onto my iPhone. I'm not aware that the music that I have downloaded 
over the air to my iPhone is not in my iTunes library.  While I am unclear 
about this, what I am really concerned about is why iTunes thinks that I am not 
updated to the latest version of iPhone software. Looking under software update 
on my phone, I get the message that my software is up-to-date.  Could anyone 
give me advice as to just what I should do?  I can continually choose cancel 
with respect to the software update thing and simply transfer music from my 
iTunes library to my iPhone.  But I get the sense that this is not quite right.

Since I don't visit this group very often, I would be grateful if people would 
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Can't synchronize NOTES between iPhone 6, iPad Air 2 and Mac mini running Yosemite

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guys,

I have a Mac Mini running Yosemite, an iPhone 6 and an iPad 2 Air, or is it an 
iPad Air 2, both of which run iOS 9.1.  I used to have synchronized NOTES apps 
on my iPhone and Mac Mini where I could start a NOTE on one device and finish 
it on another.  this was before I acquired the iPad.  

Currently, my NOTES synch automatically between my two iOS devices.  but my 
NOTES app on my Mac doesn’t seem to have any of the notes I’ve written on 
either of the other two devices after September of this year.  that probably 
corresponds to updating to iOS 9 or 9.1.  Not sure.  

I’m guessing that there’s a setting in iCloud Preferences on the Mac which is 
not set correctly, since I did have notes synchronized up to a point.  Can 
someone tell me where, and on what device, to check for settings?

thanks,
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Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

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 I just installed iOS 9.01.I still have the same problem. When you have a 
multiple message thread, it merely says, "multiple items."   It used to say the 
exact number of messages in the thread. Is there anyway to get this behavior 
back? 

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Re: Settings in iOS 9: Every notable change you need to know

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I saw theNews App in Settings.  But I can't find it on my Home Screen.

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RE: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

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 For the record, I am only dealing with publicly released software. I have 
absolutely no access to beta versions. Therefore, I can't possibly be violating 
any restriction on this list about undiscussable features.This is simply a 
behavior that used to work in iOS 8. It doesn't work now. That's my only 
comment. I simply wondered if anyone else noticed it and if anyone has any idea 
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Re: Settings in iOS 9: Every notable change you need to know

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Never mind.  I found the News App.

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Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

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 Has anyone noticed that iOS nine no longer tells you the number of messages in 
a thread? Now, it only says multiple messages. This bugs me. Is there a 
setting I can change? I've noticed this in the mail app.   I'm using an iPhone 
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Voice memos have all their dates messed up

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Guys,

For some reason, all of my voice memos on my iPhone six are suddenly no longer 
in chronological order. I have absolutely no idea what caused this. And I have 
no way of knowing how to restore the order of the memos so that they appear in 
chronological order from most recent to oldest.

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Jumping tw Compose instead of Back

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 Has anyone ever noticed this particular phenomenon on an iPhone when VO is on? 
Sometimes, when I try to press the back button at the upper left-hand corner of 
the message, I end up being bounced to the compose button.  When this happens, 
I may unavoidably find myself opening a blank message. At this point, I can, 
while voice over is still on, get out of that message sometimes deleting a  
draft, sometimes not.When this phenomenon happens and I'm constantly kicked 
to the compose button, I can avoid opening an unintentional message by turning 
VO off and hitting the back button using my vision. But I really don't want to 
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Re: iCloud and Pages

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 Do both the computer and the iPhone have to be turned on in order for sink to 
occur? I've been leaving my iPhone and Pages  Open, sometimes with my phone 
charging Bybee and  connected to AC. But I haven't had any results. This may be 
because my Mac Mini is completely turned off. Do both devices have to be turned 
on.  One and the same time? It seems to me that once the file is saved in the 
cloud Drive it should be in the cloud regardless of whether both devices are 
turned on or not. 

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iCloud and Pages

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Guys,
I am having problems with Pages  and iCloud in iOS 8.3 and Yosemite.  From what 
I understand, if I make changes to a document on either my Mac Mini or my 
iPhone, those changes should be reflected in both documents over the network. 
The changes don't seem to be reliably taking place on each other's devices. 
What might I be doing wrong? And how can I check to make sure that my documents 
are being updated correctly?

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Re: How to capitalize acronyms

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Without adding it to the dictionary, saying M I D I gives you capital letters 
with spaces between each one. The idea is to put these capital letters indirect 
sequence without spaces.   

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 26, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Isaac Hebert hebertisaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried saying cap m cap i cap d cap i with dictation.  
 I am not sure if this may solve the problem or not but have you tried adding 
 it to the dictionary? 
 To do this go to settings general keyboard. 
 Then choose shortcuts. 
 Then choose add and then you can type the  word with the correct spelling in 
 the phrase and shortcut edit fields and then choose save. 
 
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 Part of the problem is that the acronym I wish to use, MIDI, is translated 
 as, MEDIA, when I use Siri.  So, what I want to do is speak the capital 
 letters in sequence, M I D I, without spaces.  How does one do that?  Is 
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Re: How to capitalize acronyms

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Part of the problem is that the acronym I wish to use, MIDI, is 
translated as, MEDIA, when I use Siri.  So, what I want to do is speak 
the capital letters in sequence, M I D I, without spaces.  How does one do 
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How to capitalize acronyms

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 Guys,
I have a question concerning how to capitalize acronyms. Some acronyms appear 
to work,  Othersdo not.   I want to be able to speak MIDI withoutspaces.  

Actually, i'm having type this note by hand after thefirst two sentences.  
That's weird, too.

Is there a dictation dictionary that's usereditable?

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Re: How to capitalize acronyms

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Here is my try. MIDI.  Well, it appears to have worked the first time. Let me 
try saying, MIDI again.  It worked perfectly twice. Thank you, Chris.

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 Hi Kevin.
 Try saying the following:
 upper case m upper case i upper case d upper case i
 
 
 
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Answering phone calls on my Mac with Yosemite and IOS 8.1

[Kevin Gibbs]

Hi guys,
I wonder if I could ask yet another question?  This question concerns the 
ability to answer phone calls at Won's Mac that come in on one's iPhone.  

I have been testing this ability by using my house telephone to call my iPhone. 
Ocasionally,  I will see face time, on my Mac screen. However, even when that 
happens, I can't figure out how I could answer the phone call on my Mac. 
Further, I hear my iPhone ringing. But I don't hear any sound coming from my 
mac the tells me that a phone call is coming in.

My question is this. Is there some setting that I need to enable on my mac that 
allows the Mac to make a sound when a phone call is coming in?  Also, is there 
some setting that I need to enable that more reliably makes sure that the 
computer knows that a phone call is coming in in time for me to answer it?

As with my previous question about how to select in the rotor, I wonder if 
people would be so kind as to answer me directly by email. I simply don't have 
my email settings for this group set up for me to receive individual emails or 
even digests for the traffic on this list because I visit you all so 
infrequently.  So, if anyone knows the answer to this question, I would be ever 
so grateful if you would share the answer both with the list, and with me 
directly by email at:
kevj...@gmail.com.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Best,
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How to use the select command with in the rotor in iOS 8

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 Guys,
 I realize it has been a long time since I posted to this list. But I have a 
 question. I am trying to use the select command, available under the edit 
 option in the rotor in iOS eight. Here is my problem. I seem to only be able 
 to select one word when I choose select under edit. I don't know how to 
 expand the selection one word at a time, or one sentence at a time, or one 
 paragraph at a time. Could someone please explain to me how one does that?
 
 Right now, I am on the road. And I don't have my settings set to give me 
 emails of responses to my questions on this list. So, anyone who wishes to 
 respond to this question would really do me a favor by copying me directly at 
 my email address. That address is, kevj...@gmail.com.  Inquiring minds really 
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 Thank you so much for any help Vance.
 
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Re: My iPhone 4 still says IOS6 downloaded Apple Inc

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Now my iPhone says 7.1.  I have less than 2GB of free space on my phone.  How 
much space do I need?

Kevin

On Mar 14, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 You might also try installing from iTunes. It doesn't download the image to 
 the phone first, so you might be able to go straight to 7.1. You also need 
 less free space on your phone when installing through iTunes.
 
 On 03/14/2014 03:05 AM, Apple boy wrote:
 I think you're right. You or the phone must have downloaded 7.06 and
 just haven't installed it yet. So you would need to install that update
 then update to 7.1.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
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 guys,
 
 I had no idea IOS7.1 had arrived.  Every time I look at my iPhone 4 under
 Software update, it says IOS7.06 downloaded.   that suggests that I
 have to
 install that and therefore upgrade from 6.x to 7.06 before I can
 upgrade to
 7.1.  Is that the case?  is there any real point for an iPhone 4
 VoiceOver
 user to upgrade through 7.06 to 7.1?
 
 My wife, who is sighted, wants to know this as well.
 
 Best,
 Kevin
 
 
 
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Re: My iPhone 4 still says IOS6 downloaded Apple Inc

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Christopher,

I have a Download and Install button at the bottom of the screen.  So, I guess 
I can go for it.  I'm not going to do that right now.  Just interested to know.
K.
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 I needed 1.9G to download and install 7.1. If 7.1 is already downloaded, you 
 probably need less space than that. You can check just by going into Settings 
 - General - Software Updates. If you don't have enough space, you'll see 
 that message. Otherwise, you'll have a install button available.
 On 3/19/2014 6:44 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
 Now my iPhone says 7.1.  I have less than 2GB of free space on my phone.  
 How much space do I need?
 
 Kevin
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 
 You might also try installing from iTunes. It doesn't download the image to 
 the phone first, so you might be able to go straight to 7.1. You also need 
 less free space on your phone when installing through iTunes.
 
 On 03/14/2014 03:05 AM, Apple boy wrote:
 I think you're right. You or the phone must have downloaded 7.06 and
 just haven't installed it yet. So you would need to install that update
 then update to 7.1.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
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 guys,
 
 I had no idea IOS7.1 had arrived.  Every time I look at my iPhone 4 under
 Software update, it says IOS7.06 downloaded.   that suggests that I
 have to
 install that and therefore upgrade from 6.x to 7.06 before I can
 upgrade to
 7.1.  Is that the case?  is there any real point for an iPhone 4
 VoiceOver
 user to upgrade through 7.06 to 7.1?
 
 My wife, who is sighted, wants to know this as well.
 
 Best,
 Kevin
 
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My iPhone 4 still says IOS6 downloaded Apple Inc

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guys,

I had no idea IOS7.1 had arrived.  Every time I look at my iPhone 4 under 
Software update, it says IOS7.06 downloaded.   that suggests that I have to 
install that and therefore upgrade from 6.x to 7.06 before I can upgrade to 
7.1.  Is that the case?  is there any real point for an iPhone 4 VoiceOver 
user to upgrade through 7.06 to 7.1?

My wife, who is sighted, wants to know this as well.

Best,
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Re: How to update IOS on original iPod touch

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assuming I choose set to factory default on the iPod and then connect to 
iTunes, will I have the option of choosing an IOS version other than 7?  I've 
never operated IOS 7 before.  I'd love to set this thing at IOS6 if I could.  
Is that possible?  And, I assume that, if I do this, I won't have any effect on 
my wife's e-mail accounts that were on this iPod and which are still on her 
iPhone 4 and iPad 2 as iMAP.  Remember, they were POP3 on this iPod.

thanks,
Kevin

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 Make it easy for yourself and restore the iPod back to factory settings. Go 
 to settings general reset erase all content and settings. Then connect to 
 iTunes to set it all up again. Next to update click the check for updates 
 button and follow the instructions. Having said that you can do the restore 
 totally from iTunes just by clicking the restore button which in turn will 
 allow you to update iOS during the restore.
 
 Regards Chris
 
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 guys,
 
 
 Apologies if I've posted this twice.  I just inherited my wife's iPod Touch
 which she bought in 2009.  It is running IOS 4.  I want to connect it to my
 iTunes account.  I realize this will wipe out everything of hers that's on
 the device.  that's fine.  I just don't know how to update the IOS.  I
 guess I'll have to connect it with a cable and look under Devices in
 iTunes.  Is that right?
 
 Also, is there any danger of wiping out my wife's e-mail when I do this?
  she has a bunch of e-mail accounts which are iMAP on her current iPhone 4
 and iPad 2, but which were POP3 on her iPod Touch.  Again, any issues here?
 
 Thanks,
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How to update IOS on original iPod touch

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guys,

Apologies if I've posted this twice.  I just inherited my wife's iPod Touch 
which she bought in 2009.  It is running IOS 4.  I want to connect it to my 
iTunes account.  I realize this will wipe out everything of hers that's on 
the device.  that's fine.  I just don't know how to update the IOS.  I 
guess I'll have to connect it with a cable and look under Devices in 
iTunes.  Is that right?

Also, is there any danger of wiping out my wife's e-mail when I do this? 
 she has a bunch of e-mail accounts which are iMAP on her current iPhone 4 
and iPad 2, but which were POP3 on her iPod Touch.  Again, any issues here?

Thanks,
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Multiple IOS devices on same iTunes account

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If you have multiple IOS devices onthe same iTunes account on the same Mac, one 
iPhone, one iPod, one iPad, can they have distinct profiles  with respect to 
what content is synced to each device?  I want only my music library synced to 
my iPod.  Whereas, I want my library, photos, mail, contacts and apps sync he'd 
to my iPhone.  Is this possible?

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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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The solution was that I didn't have enough space on my iPhone.  Apparently, 
2GB is not enough to download all but the smallest books.  So, I dumped a 
couple videos and , Voila.  I had space for one book.  Time for an iPHone 
5S.

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 Guys,

 I just downloaded the BARD mobile app and tried to added two books to my 
 wish list.  When I downloaded the first one, I was told that I failed to 
 extract the file.  Are there certain books that can be downloaded to an IOS 
 device?  The system requirements for both books mentioned needing either a 
 digital talking book player a computer with a web connection.  No reference 
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RE: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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Deleted and reinstalled the app.  Still nothing.  Running IOS6 on iPhone 4.  
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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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The ap store says something like version 4.3 and higher.  I was trying the Game 
of Thrones books and Playboy.  Why don't you suggest one title you downloaded 
successfully for me to try.  

BTW, I have 2GB of free space on my phone, could that be the problem?

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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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 I just had one more thought.  is it possible that you have to put the 
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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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I did keep the iPhone app in the foreground.  As near as I can tell, the files 
never completely downloaded.  Shortly before a given file would have finished, 
when the progress bar was at over 90%, a dialog box popped say Ong that the 
file was not extractrmed and giving me the option to retry or cancel.  Retry 
would restart a fruitless download.  Cancel would remove the title from the 
wish list entirely.  

Hope I'm clear,

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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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The iPhone is a 4, not a 4s.  I'll try once more making sure all apps except 
BARD Mobil are closed.

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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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Just tried downloading book one of Game of Thrones having first made certain 
that all other apps were closed.  I even left VO off and used my vision to 
monitor the progress bar.  No joy.  I have no idea what to do next.

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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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I will call the library.

1.  Tried different books and mags.
2.  Uninstalled/reinstalled the app.
3.  Retried download after making sure all other apps were closed.

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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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My phone is an iPhone 4. Cathe error message I get is that the file couldn't be 
extracted.  I ended up downloading the books to a thumb drive for my NLS 
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Re: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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What is the BARD tech support address?  There was a... In the last post.  
Please send again?  Maybe copy me on e-mail at kevj...@gmail.com. 

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BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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Guys,

I just downloaded the BARD mobile app and tried to added two books to my wish 
list.  When I downloaded the first one, I was told that I failed to extract the 
file.  Are there certain books that can be downloaded to an IOS device?  The 
system requirements for both books mentioned needing either a digital talking 
book player a computer with a web connection.  No reference at all to IOS.  
What's the deal?

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RE: BARD Movile app won't extract the file

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Eric,

Just tried a different mag.  No go.  I guess I'll delwmete and reinstall the 
app.

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Has anyone upgraded to IOS7 on an iPhone 4?

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Guys,
I have an iPhone four. Currently, I'm using iOS6.  I would like to use iTunes 
radio on my iPhone. Have any of you upgraded an iPhone 4 to iOS7? Can you 
recommend a link where I could learn more about the things that iPhone for 
can't do with iOS7? Are there any real problems using iOS7 on iPhone for as 
opposed, say, two of 4S or a five?

Thanks for any information.
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Re: Has anyone upgraded to IOS7 on an iPhone 4?

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Chris,
I hear you.  I'll probably use this as my excuse to buy a 5S.

Thanks,
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How to unsubscribe from a shared photo stream

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guys,

I subscribed to a shared photo stream of a friend's baby pictures.  However, I 
now wish to unsubscribe because I wil be out of the country and can't have my 
3G chewed up by receiving baby pics at all hours.  How can i unsubscribe from 
this shared photo stream when i am not the owner of the stream?   

If anyone knows the answer, please Cc me personally at kevj...@gmail.com.  I 
have my e-mail settings set to no mail, and I very seldom visit this group on 
the web.  

thank you for your cooperation.  

Best,
Kevin


PS, if possible, it would be cool to still receive these pics on my Mac if I 
can do that without having them also sent to my iPhone.  

thanks again.

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How to find your posts on this group

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Guys,
Is there a way to search on this group to find your posts, that is, to find 
posts that you have placed on this forum?  There are times when I want to find 
threads which I have started several weeks after I wrote them.What is the best 
way to do this?

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Re: Can't send to this group without sight

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For me, the problem is that I rarely visit this group because  I don't want to 
deal with the volume of messages this group generates. No offence. I just want 
to get in and get out.  See what I mean? 

Now, I did solve one of my problems by figuring out how to search for threads 
I've started so I can check in on them. But I still have   the problem of not 
being able to post from either the iPhone or my Mac from the web. 

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Re: Can't send to this group without sight

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Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to 
this group from the web.  When I read through stuff on the web and wish to 
respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the 
web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or 
any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies 
things. 
Thanks, 
KEVIN 

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Re: Can't send to this group without sight

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For some reason, I can't get voiceover to read the compose button or the reply 
button. Were it not for the site I do have, I wouldn't be able to get to any of 
the posts on this group in terms of replying or posting.  This is very strange. 
 Like I said,neither the compose button, nor the reply button are spoken by 
voice over on my iPhone.

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Can't send to this group without sight

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Guys,
I am al low vision user. So sometimes I drop in and out with voice over and 
vision. I've noticed that I can't send a message to this groupfrom my iPhone 
without using my vision. That is, I have to turn voiceover off and type a 
little envelope icon at the far right of the screen in order to get a new 
message to open up. How do you people send a message if you're completely blind 
using voice over alone  on an iPhone?

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google maps in general

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Actually, I have been using Google maps very successfully during the three-week 
road trip.  My wife, who is cited, has been the driver. I have been the 
navigator.  When the app opens, type on the search icon. When the search box 
opens in the typewriter keyboard exposes itself, simply type in the address you 
want to go to.

 The app then assumes that you are going to want directions based on your 
current location.  When using the app for the first time, try and get cited 
assistance.  After that, you should be able to use it by yourself.

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MBraille

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Is anyone using MBraille?  I just bought it. I think it's really great. The 
only problem is that I can't seem to make the app add a recipient's email 
address in the TO field of an e-mail, even after carefully following all 
instructions.  Let me know if any of you are having the same problem.  If you 
are not aware of this iPhone app, I highly recommend it.

Best,
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Re: Huffpost upgrade with reduced accessibility

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I was just going to comment on the fact that the HuffingtonPost is no longer 
accessible. I've had exactly the same problem that the original poster 
describes. I'm glad to hear it isn't just me. Hopefully, the next update will 
fix this. Although ,there has been one subsequent update do with this app and 
no fix so far.

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Re: Huffpost upgrade with reduced accessibility

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I forgot one other thing. I can't figure out how one saves an article as a 
favorite with this new upgrade.

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Re: NLS app Podcast?

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Guys,
I just heard the blind access journal podcast on the new NLS app. I think it's 
fascinating. I did find it interesting to hear about reading braille on iOS 
devices. I assume this involves using a Bluetooth connected braille display?

Also, I don't really understand the reference to 8  DOT space braille.  I 
gather you have to have number eight DOT braille enabled but you still end up 
reading in six dots.  Can anyone enlighten me a little further about this 8 dot 
braille system?

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Any users of Brailist notice this?

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guys,

I realize I seldom post here.  I just noticed something interesting about 
Braillist.  Apparently, the hardwired mappings in the app have assigned the 
letters bet in succession to the word between.   That means you can't use the 
word bet for anything.  Now, my braille is a little rusty.  As I recall, the 
contraction for between is probably something like dos 2-3, followed by the 
letter t, or is it bt.  Whatever the case, it definitely isn't bet.  So, is 
there any way to alter the key mappings that come with Braillist?  Can I delete 
the association of bet with between?  

One other thing, in my opinion, the so called Next key, located at the bottom 
of the center column, which works in manual mode, should be the caps lock in 
automatic mode.  Currently, the app assigns dot 5 to the caps lock function.  
this illuminates all the dot 5 contractions in North American braille.  this 
means that people could develop some nasty bad habits with respect to learning 
their contractions.  any thoughts?

Kevin

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RE: Spotify

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I use Spotify a lot. Unfortunately, while it is accessible beautifully on the 
iPhone, it is absolutely not very accessible on the Mac itself. Does anyone 
have any experience using Spotify with VoiceOver on a Mac?

Kevin

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