Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-23 Thread Bill Gallik




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I’ve had two dog guides, both from Leader, and they did originally show some 
anxiety durring thunder storms.  In fact, my first dog and I got caught in a 
fast moving thunderstorm on one of our very first walks in Wheaton.  I had 
decided to go to the neighborhood Convenient store about three blocks from 
home..  We were almost there when thunder and rain showers started.  I sat him 
down gently and put my arm around his neck and scratched his ears while softly 
assuring him we were OK.  He settled down and never had an issue with thunder 
again.  But then, I suppose that my temperament of thoroughly enjoying thunder 
storms was readily sensed by Jake.

Holland, my second dog, never quite completely got over the thunderstorm 
anxiety syndrome, although it did diminish significantly after several such 
storms and my reaction.  But, I had brought Jake home in April whereupon we had 
an opportunity to experience a thunderstorm immediately.  Holland came home (to 
Superior) in mid October whence thunderstorms are very rare affairs in northern 
Wisconsin.  So, Holland was with me at least seven months before thunderstorms 
would occur.  I do believe that was a bit too much an upheaval of his calm 
wintry environment.  Still, he was a trooper and carried on with his duties.


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.”
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RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Like people all dogs are different,
Some will be fine in these situations and some wont be.

I've had  3 guide dogs and 1 of them hated fireworks and thunger if it heard it,

One couldn't care less and the other wasn't a fan of the fireworks but thunder 
and lightening wasn't an issue 
The one that hated loud noises / thunger etc also wasn't a fan of being hugged 





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no in

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
Yes, if only we could talk to them and make them understand it is ok and they 
are not going to get hurt.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
pattigj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I have had 8 guide dogs and my first one was the only one that truly showed any 
fear of storms.  But she was a trooper and up till her last year here when her 
fear escalated in to just plain fear of sounds, that she handled it quite well 
in spite of her obvious dislike of storms where she'd go hide if she could, or 
she would tremble until I would just lay my hand on her and talk to her calmly.

Patti

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

Before I tell you all about the Netty and Guy story and thunder story, I've 
never heard in all these many years from 1976 when I got my dog and all these 
years of many friends attending the different guide dog schools including 
leader dog, amoungst so many things that goes into a dog's training in being 
fully prepared and ready to handle everything that comes their way, I never 
heard of a guide dog school working with the dogs on fear of thunder, but 
that's probably something that's included with so many other things in their 
training and preparation for being a guide dog. Of course, just like people 
dogs have other fears. Though it does seem comon that many dogs have a fear of 
thunder and fire works, but just like common fears that people have, amoungst 
dogs too, not every dog or person have those most common fears. It would 
probably would be beneficial if the guide dog schools worked with the dogs with 
the fear of thunder, and possibly many of the schools are doing just that and 
we're not aware of that. That could be important if you're either a block or 2 
from home or a block or 2 from transportation to get you home, it wouldn't be 
the best situation for your dog to be very frightened. Though in a situation 
such as that hopefully it would be great if there was a place very near by 
where you could wait until the rain and thunder is over. So While this isn't a 
guide dog support group, it would be a sad reflection on a guide dog school to 
asume that fears including the fear of thunder isn't worked on with the dogs, 
especially on what we individually know. Of all the dogs I've known, pet dogs 
and guide dogs with the exception of one dog, all the dogs had a fear of 
thunder. It's something that can vary from person to person, concerning the 
dogs they know, for example another person might say, the majority dogs I know 
aren't a fraid, or in terms of duge dogs, someone could say that they know 5 
dogs from such and such guide dog school that have no fear of thunder and 2 
that are afraid of thunder, and that they know 6 dogs from another guide dog 
school where 3 of the dogs are afraraid of thunder and 3 that aren't. I would 
habe to hear that would be the determining thing about one school being better 
than the other, there's just so very manythings they work on with preparing and 
training the dogs and of course all of that is something we all know. Now for 
the Netty and Guy story, both guide dogs from guiding eyes, Netty was my dog 
and she was a yellow labrador, and Guy was a german shepherd that belonged to 
my friend Greg. Along with a few other fwith Greg, at his  apartment, It was 
the 4th of july in about 1979, you could hear fire crackers and on top of that 
it began to thunder. Knowing how scared Netty was of thunder storms I went to 
her, and found her lying on one of the couches really scared. Then Guy came 
into the living room, and was just walking around the room, to him everything 
was fine, just barking here and there. Clearly he wasn't nervous or a fraid of 
the fire works and thunder, and I was thinking it was as if he was trying to 
tell us something. Fast forward about 6 months later, this one night, in our 
own apartment, it began thundering and raining, this time it was different for 
netty, while she seemed still a little nervous about the thunder, it was 
nothing like other times when she was so scared of it, and she even barked 
somewhat like Guy did. So we just know Guy must have been helping her not to be 
afraid of thunder, and she remembered that and he helped her with that.
- Original Message -
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert


I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread pattigj1206
I have had 8 guide dogs and my first one was the only one that truly showed any 
fear of storms.  But she was a trooper and up till her last year here when her 
fear escalated in to just plain fear of sounds, that she handled it quite well 
in spite of her obvious dislike of storms where she'd go hide if she could, or 
she would tremble until I would just lay my hand on her and talk to her calmly.

Patti

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

Before I tell you all about the Netty and Guy story and thunder story, I've 
never heard in all these many years from 1976 when I got my dog and all these 
years of many friends attending the different guide dog schools including 
leader dog, amoungst so many things that goes into a dog's training in being 
fully prepared and ready to handle everything that comes their way, I never 
heard of a guide dog school working with the dogs on fear of thunder, but 
that's probably something that's included with so many other things in their 
training and preparation for being a guide dog. Of course, just like people 
dogs have other fears. Though it does seem comon that many dogs have a fear of 
thunder and fire works, but just like common fears that people have, amoungst 
dogs too, not every dog or person have those most common fears. It would 
probably would be beneficial if the guide dog schools worked with the dogs with 
the fear of thunder, and possibly many of the schools are doing just that and 
we're not aware of that. That could be important if you're either a block or 2 
from home or a block or 2 from transportation to get you home, it wouldn't be 
the best situation for your dog to be very frightened. Though in a situation 
such as that hopefully it would be great if there was a place very near by 
where you could wait until the rain and thunder is over. So While this isn't a 
guide dog support group, it would be a sad reflection on a guide dog school to 
asume that fears including the fear of thunder isn't worked on with the dogs, 
especially on what we individually know. Of all the dogs I've known, pet dogs 
and guide dogs with the exception of one dog, all the dogs had a fear of 
thunder. It's something that can vary from person to person, concerning the 
dogs they know, for example another person might say, the majority dogs I know 
aren't a fraid, or in terms of duge dogs, someone could say that they know 5 
dogs from such and such guide dog school that have no fear of thunder and 2 
that are afraid of thunder, and that they know 6 dogs from another guide dog 
school where 3 of the dogs are afraraid of thunder and 3 that aren't. I would 
habe to hear that would be the determining thing about one school being better 
than the other, there's just so very manythings they work on with preparing and 
training the dogs and of course all of that is something we all know. Now for 
the Netty and Guy story, both guide dogs from guiding eyes, Netty was my dog 
and she was a yellow labrador, and Guy was a german shepherd that belonged to 
my friend Greg. Along with a few other fwith Greg, at his  apartment, It was 
the 4th of july in about 1979, you could hear fire crackers and on top of that 
it began to thunder. Knowing how scared Netty was of thunder storms I went to 
her, and found her lying on one of the couches really scared. Then Guy came 
into the living room, and was just walking around the room, to him everything 
was fine, just barking here and there. Clearly he wasn't nervous or a fraid of 
the fire works and thunder, and I was thinking it was as if he was trying to 
tell us something. Fast forward about 6 months later, this one night, in our 
own apartment, it began thundering and raining, this time it was different for 
netty, while she seemed still a little nervous about the thunder, it was 
nothing like other times when she was so scared of it, and she even barked 
somewhat like Guy did. So we just know Guy must have been helping her not to be 
afraid of thunder, and she remembered that and he helped her with that.
- Original Message -
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert


I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weit

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jewel
With the exception of one:  my second:  I have trained all my own guidedogs and 
I remember that I 
subjected only one to gunshots which we the nearest simulation I could get to 
backfiring.
During the test, Sieger remained, 100% calm, but as for the farm dog, it dived 
under the nearby 
tractor and remained in that sturdy vehicle's protection till long after Sieger 
and I had gone home.

   Jewel

--
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 6:27 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of 
them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subj    ect: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during 
thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have 
> been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some dogs and not for others 
> as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to 
> defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a flame fight or 
> anuything like that. 
> Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. 
>> Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only 
>> make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you 
>> would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm 
>> and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block 
>> light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or
>> windowless bathroom
>>
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on 
>> the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added pressure, much like a 
>> baby feels safe when 
>> swaddled. If this seems to help, consider buying a special anti-anxiety 
>> garment, such as the 
>> Thundershirt or Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's 
>> chest, but make sure 
>> you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout 
>> the body are being targeted, and to avoid injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress 
>> relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments 
>> (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The air flowing through the 
>> moistened fabric will act 
>> as a cooling agent. Always supervise your dog if you're concerned about 
>> health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and
>> help him/her stay

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jennie Facer
That is so true. My second dog from Leader dogs was very afraid of fireworks 
but not thunder until later on in her life. She got over her fireworks fear. My 
three dogs have not been afraid of thunder though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I think they do try hard to test for this but as with all things it is not an 
> exact science and some do slip through.  The other thing is a lot of time, 
> they can become afraid later in life.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 
> 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks 
> or gunshots.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd 
> seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
> 
> Caitlyn
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>> 
>> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
>> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
>> dogs and not for others as much.
>> -Steve
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
>> Lightning alert
>> 
>> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
>> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start 
>> a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>> 
>>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>>> and improve its response to the
>>> 
>>> Part 1
>>> Calming Your Dog
>>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>>> thunder. 
>>> 
>>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. 
>>> Follow the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a 
>>> calm, reassuring tone. 
>>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help 
>>> your dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>> 
>>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>>> owner.
>>> Here are a few options:
>>> • Under a table or bed
>>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>>> windowless bathroom
>>> 
>>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>>> injuring your dog.
>>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupre

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jewel
I have owned dogs, of all shapes and sizes since 1959, and not one of them 
has ever shown the 
slightest sign of fear, or worse, re electrical storms and this is, I am 
convinced, because I love 
electrical storms:  the more spectacular, the better;  and fireworks?  well I 
can't say that I * 
love them, but they, most assuredly, don't bother me or my dog/s!

 Jewel
--
From: "Jennie Facer" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 2:43 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will go 
way beyond to defend 
these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a flame fight or anuything 
like that. Thanks for 
clearing it all up.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms
> Beverly Ulbrich, MBA
> Dog Behaviorist & Trainer
> March 25, 2020
>
> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
> electricity, and barometric 
> pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and panic. In this
> state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. Learn how to manage 
> your dog's fear during 
> this frightening storm, and improve its response to the
>
> Part 1
> Calming Your Dog
> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
> underway to find your dog. 
> Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear thunder.
>
> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
> know, and this will only 
> make matters worse.
> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
> the same routine you 
> would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, reassuring tone.
> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
> dog by being calm and 
> happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>
> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
> this spot will block 
> light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its owner.
> Here are a few options:
> • Under a table or bed
> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it
> • In a closet or windowless bathroom
>
> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
> huddle under your arm on 
> the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added pressure, much like a baby 
> feels safe when 
> swaddled. If this seems to help, consider buying a special anti-anxiety 
> garment, such as the 
> Thundershirt or Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's 
> chest, but make sure 
> you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
> acupressure points throughout 
> the body are being targeted, and to avoid injuring your dog.
> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
> associated with stress 
> relief.
> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
> overheating, some garments 
> (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The air flowing through the 
> moistened fabric will act 
> as a cooling agent. Always supervise your dog if you're concerned about 
> health/safety.
> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and help 
> him/her stay calm if you 
> need to leave the house. Consult the product directions
> for safety information.
>
> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
> machine) can help 
> drown out the thunder.
> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting.
> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>
> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from windows, 
> or put up heavy 
> curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an additional source of 
> anxiety. Block the dog's 
> access to exits, since some scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>
> Play games.
> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play fetch 
> or put on music and 
> dance together. Try to find an activity that will turn
> your dog's attention away from the storm.
>
> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to 
> treat anxiety. Always use 
> remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some essential oils that work for 
> humans may cause 
> discomfort or injury in animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required 
> as well.
> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are very 
> concentrated and can be 
> harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. They can also
> damage furniture.
>

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,
My first dog was very afraid but if he was working, he would keep going all be 
it a little faster and get us inside.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
&g

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,
I think they do try hard to test for this but as with all things it is not an 
exact science and some do slip through.  The other thing is a lot of time, they 
can become afraid later in life.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
>> directions for safety information.
>> 
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
>> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choos

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Arlene
Before I tell you all about the Netty and Guy story and thunder story, I've 
never heard in all these many years from 1976 when I got my dog and all 
these years of many friends attending the different guide dog schools 
including leader dog, amoungst so many things that goes into a dog's 
training in being fully prepared and ready to handle everything that comes 
their way, I never heard of a guide dog school working with the dogs on fear 
of thunder, but that's probably something that's included with so many other 
things in their training and preparation for being a guide dog. Of course, 
just like people dogs have other fears. Though it does seem comon that many 
dogs have a fear of thunder and fire works, but just like common fears that 
people have, amoungst dogs too, not every dog or person have those most 
common fears. It would probably would be beneficial if the guide dog schools 
worked with the dogs with the fear of thunder, and possibly many of the 
schools are doing just that and we're not aware of that. That could be 
important if you're either a block or 2 from home or a block or 2 from 
transportation to get you home, it wouldn't be the best situation for your 
dog to be very frightened. Though in a situation such as that hopefully it 
would be great if there was a place very near by where you could wait until 
the rain and thunder is over. So While this isn't a guide dog support group, 
it would be a sad reflection on a guide dog school to asume that fears 
including the fear of thunder isn't worked on with the dogs, especially on 
what we individually know. Of all the dogs I've known, pet dogs and guide 
dogs with the exception of one dog, all the dogs had a fear of thunder. It's 
something that can vary from person to person, concerning the dogs they 
know, for example another person might say, the majority dogs I know aren't 
a fraid, or in terms of duge dogs, someone could say that they know 5 dogs 
from such and such guide dog school that have no fear of thunder and 2 that 
are afraid of thunder, and that they know 6 dogs from another guide dog 
school where 3 of the dogs are afraraid of thunder and 3 that aren't. I 
would habe to hear that would be the determining thing about one school 
being better than the other, there's just so very manythings they work on 
with preparing and training the dogs and of course all of that is something 
we all know. Now for the Netty and Guy story, both guide dogs from guiding 
eyes, Netty was my dog and she was a yellow labrador, and Guy was a german 
shepherd that belonged to my friend Greg. Along with a few other fwith Greg, 
at his  apartment, It was the 4th of july in about 1979, you could hear fire 
crackers and on top of that it began to thunder. Knowing how scared Netty 
was of thunder storms I went to her, and found her lying on one of the 
couches really scared. Then Guy came into the living room, and was just 
walking around the room, to him everything was fine, just barking here and 
there. Clearly he wasn't nervous or a fraid of the fire works and thunder, 
and I was thinking it was as if he was trying to tell us something. Fast 
forward about 6 months later, this one night, in our own apartment, it began 
thundering and raining, this time it was different for netty, while she 
seemed still a little nervous about the thunder, it was nothing like other 
times when she was so scared of it, and she even barked somewhat like Guy 
did. So we just know Guy must have been helping her not to be afraid of 
thunder, and she remembered that and he helped her with that.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert



I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, 
and all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside 
somewhere and it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant 
his feet and refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back 
home as fast as he could, but not go any further the other direction.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert


My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, 
then in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a 
black lab/golden retriever mix.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
T

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Barbara Stahl
By the way the sweater thing does not always work I bought a thunder shirt for 
my lab Who is terrified of thunderstorms and I put it on several hours before 
hand when I knew storms were coming and when the storms came she was just as 
terrified as she was without the shirt

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> Which is why I would like to be alerted when the lightning is a few miles 
> away and I can get her sweater before she becomes stiff and unmovable.
> At 02:10 PM 6/21/2020, you wrote:
>> Maybe folks should call their dog guide schools and inquire.
>> Those schools who have follow-up training support maybe could come and work 
>> with your dog.
>> 
>> That, or check with the Canada school that Sieghard attended.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>> Edward Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, 
>> then in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
>> Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
>> My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a 
>> black lab/golden retriever mix.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder 
>> storms.
>> Which school did yours come from?
>> Maybe they do a better job than some.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>> Edward Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have 
>> had 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, 
>> fireworks or gunshots.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd 
>> seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
>> 
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>> >
>> > O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
>> > the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
>> > dogs and not for others as much.
>> > -Steve
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> > Jennie Facer
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
>> > Lightning alert
>> >
>> > I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I 
>> > will go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying 
>> > to start a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all 
>> > up.
>> >
>> > Jenn
>> >
>> > Jenn and Kumi
>> >
>> >> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Barbara Stahl
> 
You could try the whio weather app, it has a setting for alerting you about 
lightening. Its always going off and telling me lightening detected 4.9 miles 
and then so on from my location. 
You just activate this feature in the apps setting.   It is free. and can be 
found easily in the app store. 

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RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Ann Byrne
Which is why I would like to be alerted when the 
lightning is a few miles away and I can get her 
sweater before she becomes stiff and unmovable.

At 02:10 PM 6/21/2020, you wrote:

Maybe folks should call their dog guide schools and inquire.
Those schools who have follow-up training 
support maybe could come and work with your dog.


That, or check with the Canada school that Sieghard attended.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge 
over which he must pass himself,† and we 
forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable 
that while I have regretted not granting grace 
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was 
a long time ago oin 1994, then in 2005 I got my 
second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in 
British Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow 
labs and my second one was a black lab/golden retriever mix.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs 
were terrified of thunder storms.

Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge 
over which he must pass himself,† and we 
forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable 
that while I have regretted not granting grace 
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools 
tested dogs for this, I have had 3 dogs and none 
of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or gunshots.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate 
vastly improved my GSd seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.


Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt 
with my first Seeing Eye dog all the 
time.  They have been around for almost 15 
years.  They work for some dogs and not for others as much.

> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but 
thanks so much to Richard. I will go way beyond 
to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t 
trying to start a flame fight or anuything like 
that. Thanks for clearing it all up.

>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't 
wait until the storm is fully underway to find 
your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear thunder.

>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If 
you are upset, your dog will know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications 
that something is wrong. Follow the same 
routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it 
that something is wronng. Help your dog by 
being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.

>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" 
for the 

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Don Moore
The one dog I had that really hated lightning was from The Seeing Eye.  The 
field rep came out and was going to get me a thunder shirt, but the dog gave up 
working before I would have received the shirt.  Florida is really no place 
with a fear of storms.  About a half hour before we'd hear the thunder, the dog 
would cower in his kennel and we knew that something was going to be happening 
soon.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Richard Turner
Maybe folks should call their dog guide schools and inquire.
Those schools who have follow-up training support maybe could come and work 
with your dog.

That, or check with the Canada school that Sieghard attended.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> o

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Sherry Spencer
How do you come a dog doing a thunderstorm

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder 
> storms.
> Which school did yours come from?
> Maybe they do a better job than some.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 
> 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks 
> or gunshots.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd 
> seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
> 
> Caitlyn
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>> 
>> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
>> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
>> dogs and not for others as much.
>> -Steve
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
>> Lightning alert
>> 
>> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
>> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start 
>> a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>> 
>>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>>> and improve its response to the
>>> 
>>> Part 1
>>> Calming Your Dog
>>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>>> thunder. 
>>> 
>>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. 
>>> Follow the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a 
>>> calm, reassuring tone.
>>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help 
>>> your dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>> 
>>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>>> owner.
>>> Here are a few options:
>>> • Under a table or bed
>>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or
>>> windowless bathroom
>>> 
>>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>>> acupressure points throughout the body a

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Richard Turner
I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
>> directions for safety information.
>> 
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
>> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. 
>> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>> 
>> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from 
>> windows, or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an 
>> additional source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some 
>> scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>> 
>

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Caitlyn Furness
The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. 
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, and 
>> improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
>> directions for safety information.
>> 
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
>> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. 
>> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>> 
>> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from 
>> windows, or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an 
>> additional source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some 
>> scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>> 
>> Play games.
>> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play 
>> fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that will 
>> turn your dog's attention away from the storm.
>> 
>> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to 
>> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs.

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all the 
time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some dogs and 
not for others as much.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will go 
way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
> 
> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. 
> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, and 
> improve its response to the
> 
> Part 1
> Calming Your Dog
> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
> thunder. 
> 
> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
> know, and this will only make matters worse.
> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
> reassuring tone. 
> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
> 
> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
> owner.
> Here are a few options:
> • Under a table or bed
> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
> windowless bathroom
> 
> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
> injuring your dog.
> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
> associated with stress relief.
> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
> directions for safety information.
> 
> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. 
> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
> 
> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from windows, 
> or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an additional 
> source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some scared dogs 
> may try to run away or harm visitors.
> 
> Play games.
> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play 
> fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that will 
> turn your dog's attention away from the storm.
> 
> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to 
> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some 
> essential oils that work for humans may cause discomfort or injury in 
> animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required as well. 
> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are very 
> concentrated and can be harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. They can 
> also damage furniture.
> • Lavender is one popular option that seems to help dogs, when used in the 
> correct dose.
> • Another option is petting your dog with a dryer sheet- it reduces static.
> 
> Talk to your vet about medication. If these methods are

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jennie Facer
I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will go 
way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms
> Beverly Ulbrich, MBA
> Dog Behaviorist & Trainer
> March 25, 2020 
> 
> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and panic. 
> In this
> state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. Learn how to manage 
> your dog's fear during this frightening storm, and improve its response to the
> 
> Part 1
> Calming Your Dog
> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
> thunder. 
> 
> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
> know, and this will only make matters worse.
> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
> reassuring tone. 
> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
> 
> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
> owner.
> Here are a few options:
> • Under a table or bed
> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it
> • In a closet or windowless bathroom
> 
> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
> injuring your dog.
> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
> associated with stress relief.
> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and help 
> him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
> directions
> for safety information.
> 
> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. 
> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
> 
> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from windows, 
> or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an additional 
> source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some scared dogs 
> may try to run away or harm visitors.
> 
> Play games.
> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play fetch 
> or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that will turn
> your dog's attention away from the storm. 
> 
> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to 
> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some 
> essential oils that work for humans may cause discomfort or injury in 
> animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required as well. 
> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are very 
> concentrated and can be harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. They can 
> also
> damage furniture.
> • Lavender is one popular option that seems to help dogs, when used in the 
> correct dose.
> • Another option is petting your dog with a dryer sheet- it reduces static.
> 
> Talk to your vet about medication. If these methods are ineffective, ask your 
> vet about anti-anxiety medications.
> Your dog can take some medications such as amitriptyline for the duration of 
> the storm season. There are also quick-acting medications such as 
> acepromazine ("Ace") or diazepam that can be taken for individual storms.
> 
> • To be effective, quick-acting medications must be administered before your 
> dog exhibits any behavioral changes.
> • Never give a dog medication without consulting a veterinarian first.
> 
> Part 2
> Preventing Your Dog's Fear
> Desensitize your dog.
> To teach your dog that storms are nothing to fear, play a recording of a 
> thunderstorm on very low volume for several hours,