RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-11 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Different strokes for different folks I suppose. Back in college, I used to 
workout at the gym with my buddies. Weights and all that. 

Now that I’m older and don’t have so much time to fart around at the gym and 
have other responsibilities and generally don’t like the idea of being at a 
place that’s all loud and have to hassle with all the accessibility challenges 
that would go into maneuvering around a gym full of equipment and people, I’m 
more a workout at home body weight type of person with a couple of machines. 
The treadmill because I like the activity of walking and while I did have a 
guide dog in the past and am cane competent, sometimes, you just want to zone 
out and not have to pay attention to your surroundings. Turning off your mind 
and blasting your music or podcast or audiobook or whatever is a nice option to 
have. The stationary bike with its digital screen we have other than the manual 
option really isn’t accessible, but we got that over 10 years ago and it’s 
still going strong. Maybe if and when it gives out, I’ll consider getting 
something that has some sort of Bluetooth connectivity like the treadmill, but 
for now, it’s not that big a deal. Other than that, we’ve got a rower and I use 
kettlebells, resistance bands and gymnastics rings on a pull up bar.

An Apple watch really hasn’t called my attention and other than the treadmill 
with its bluetooth and a interval timer app I use on my iPhone depending on 
what I’m doing, I keep it pretty basic. 

Not considering apps/services like Netflix or YouTube or Pandora that can help 
to make the time go by a bit faster. In this regard, it’s helpful to have two 
iOS devices. One to stream whatever you want and another if you wish to use a 
timer.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

 

Oh boy, what will they come up with next. I had never yet heard about these 
full body vibration gadgets, sounds like something you hear on an infomercial 
in the middle of the night. Wasn't there at one point something similar, some 
sort of belt  you put around  your waist and then it vibrated and it was 
supposed to tone up your stomach muscles, get rid of stomach fat and all that.

When I just Googled "full body vibration platforms" my first thought was how 
can something like that possible have any benefit with respect to 
cardio-vascular fitness. Here is an article from the Mayo Clinic's website, the 
link si first and I did put the text below as well. This would confirm what my 
common sense tells me and while the doctor who wrote the article says it can 
have some benefits, it still sounds like a gadget to me, something which 
promises more than it delivers, something where there just is no actual proof 
and something which is meant to make you feel good about working out when 
really you are not doing much.

One of the key conclusions from the article is this sentence: if you want to 
lose weight and improve fitness, enjoy a healthy diet and include physical 
activity in your daily routine.

It seems the entire industry which is built around healthy eating and fitness 
which is worth billions in the US alone is all focused on one thing: you need 
to buy all this weird food stuff, supplements and what not and you need to buy 
expensive fitness machines and if you do that you get slim and fit without 
doing much. What they don't say is that you can be healthy and fit by simply 
eating a healthy, balanced diet of quality food and by getting your butt off 
the couch and outside. Keep in mind that I am generalizing a bit here, I am 
fully aware that what I say applies to people who are in a position to do this. 
If somebody is unable to do this because maybe they are not healthy enough then 
sometimes things like a treadmill or exercise bike is a great way to get at 
least some exercise, but there is little excuse for not buying healthy fresh 
food and turning them into meals which are good for you, of course if you still 
eat three times the amount you should eat then even the healthiest meal is bad 
for you and the same applies if you constantly stuff yourself with chips, 
cookies, chocolate and other junk. Is it easy to go out for a brisk walk when 
it's pouring rain or when it's 30 below with the wind blowing? No, of course 
not and there is nothing wrong with shifting to more indoor exercises, but I 
find it much more satisfying to go to my local pool and since most pools also 
have fitness rooms I can combine a good workout with a half hour swim then if I 
had a treadmill at home where I can do one thing only. Let's face it, most of 
us don't have the money for a gym which includes the variety of workout 
machines that you find in a gym which has $20,000 or $30,000 worth of equipment 
from weights and strength training machines to treadmills, bikes, rowing

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
whole-body 
vibration, remember to do aerobic and strength training activities as well.

And because whole-body vibration can be harmful in some situations, check with 
your doctor before using it, especially if you're pregnant or have any health 
problems.



sort of



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy 
Rodriguez
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app



Hey guys,



Since we're on the topic of treadmills, has anyone checked out full body

vibration platforms? they are said to be better and more effective than

treadmills, but I don't know much about them unfortunately. I have been

researching the topic and was planning on getting one, sounds like a

really nice peace of equipment to have, but I'd like to get feedback

from those on here that have tried it. are they actually effective at

increasing muscle strength and bone density and whatnot, and do you feel

like you got a decent workout after vibrating on one of these for a

while? How durable are these machines, and which would you recommend?

thanks for your help!







On 11/10/2018 7:22 PM, Mary Otten wrote:



> I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the 
> measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are 
> probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they 
> are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the 
> right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the 
> ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it 
> does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an 
> easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do 
> your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are 
> two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. 
> You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I 
> didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m 
> not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews 
> for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here 
> my feet on the treadmill as I walked.

> And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I 
> did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that 
> loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no 
> problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the 
> buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I 
> think it’s a good deal.

> Mary

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:

>>

>> Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon 
>> and I think free assembly.

>> I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower 
>> than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting 
>> any longer for an extra few more bucks off.

>> Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via 
>> Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to 
>> your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not 
>> Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous 
>> work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" 
>> ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't 
>> really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or 
>> treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.

>> Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on 
>> using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me 
>> someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.

>> The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took 
>> him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.

>>

>> Cristóbal

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten

>> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

>>

>> Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went 
>> back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the 
>> treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea 
>> what’s 

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-11 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
If it's like any other modern treadmill, you should be able to pare it to some 
third party app to access your workout info. Mine along with the Nautilus app  
that is fully accessible can sync with My Fitness Pal, Map My Walk, but I 
haven't really looked at the built in health app. You could also give Run 
Social or one of those services a try too.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Mary,

Neither of us have really used the app.  We both looked at it, but at least a 
year ago, the iPhone app had a lot of accessibility issues, so I kind of just 
gave up on it, especially since it did have such awful ratings.  I haven't 
tried it lately, though, and can't remember if it has had any recent updates, 
so it may be worth a try for you. 



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Mary 
Otten [motte...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Pam,
Well, I think the basic functionality will be fine, and my physical therapist 
will be happy, so what’s not to like?
On the other hand, have you guys found anyway to make the program is 
accessible? And have you had the same kind of really lousy lock that everybody 
else report regarding the app and the connectivity with things like the Apple 
health app? I think it would really be cool to have the data in the health app.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
>
> Mary,
>
> We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, 
> has been happy with it.  He is also blind and has no issues using it.  He did 
> put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of 
> the machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change 
> these.  We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every 
> other day for about an hour, and it is holding up fine.  When I use it, I 
> usually read and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy 
> either.
>
> Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.
>
> Pam
>
>
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
> Mary Otten [motte...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the 
> measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are 
> probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they 
> are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the 
> right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the 
> ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it 
> does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an 
> easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do 
> your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are 
> two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. 
> You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I 
> didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m 
> not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews 
> for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here 
> my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
> And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I 
> did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that 
> loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no 
> problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the 
> buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I 
> think it’s a good deal.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon 
>> and I think free assembly.
>> I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower 
>> than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting 
>> any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
>> Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via 
>> Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-11 Thread Yohandy Rodriguez

Hey guys,

Since we're on the topic of treadmills, has anyone checked out full body 
vibration platforms? they are said to be better and more effective than 
treadmills, but I don't know much about them unfortunately. I have been 
researching the topic and was planning on getting one, sounds like a 
really nice peace of equipment to have, but I'd like to get feedback 
from those on here that have tried it. are they actually effective at 
increasing muscle strength and bone density and whatnot, and do you feel 
like you got a decent workout after vibrating on one of these for a 
while? How durable are these machines, and which would you recommend? 
thanks for your help!




On 11/10/2018 7:22 PM, Mary Otten wrote:


I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the 
measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are 
probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they 
are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the 
right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the 
ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it 
does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an 
easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do 
your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are 
two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. 
You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I 
didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m 
not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for 
the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my 
feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I 
did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that 
loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no 
problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the 
buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think 
it’s a good deal.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:

Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and 
I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than 
$900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any 
longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt 
for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like 
a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings 
and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly 
had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't 
really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. 
Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using 
it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who 
had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him 
over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back 
to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill 
was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going 
on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea 
how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true 
for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered 
and set up by a local store.


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:07 PM, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.

Linda

- Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app


Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link 
on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, 
which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer 
available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that 
seeing it before 

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-10 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Hi Mary,

Neither of us have really used the app.  We both looked at it, but at least a 
year ago, the iPhone app had a lot of accessibility issues, so I kind of just 
gave up on it, especially since it did have such awful ratings.  I haven't 
tried it lately, though, and can't remember if it has had any recent updates, 
so it may be worth a try for you. 



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Mary 
Otten [motte...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Pam,
Well, I think the basic functionality will be fine, and my physical therapist 
will be happy, so what’s not to like?
On the other hand, have you guys found anyway to make the program is 
accessible? And have you had the same kind of really lousy lock that everybody 
else report regarding the app and the connectivity with things like the Apple 
health app? I think it would really be cool to have the data in the health app.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
>
> Mary,
>
> We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, 
> has been happy with it.  He is also blind and has no issues using it.  He did 
> put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of 
> the machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change 
> these.  We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every 
> other day for about an hour, and it is holding up fine.  When I use it, I 
> usually read and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy 
> either.
>
> Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.
>
> Pam
>
>
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Mary 
> Otten [motte...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the 
> measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are 
> probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they 
> are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the 
> right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the 
> ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it 
> does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an 
> easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do 
> your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are 
> two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. 
> You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I 
> didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m 
> not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews 
> for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here 
> my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
> And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I 
> did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that 
> loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no 
> problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the 
> buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I 
> think it’s a good deal.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon 
>> and I think free assembly.
>> I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower 
>> than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting 
>> any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
>> Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via 
>> Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to 
>> your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not 
>> Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous 
>> work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" 
>> ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't 
>> really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or 
>> treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
>> Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was p

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-10 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Pam,
Well, I think the basic functionality will be fine, and my physical therapist 
will be happy, so what’s not to like?
On the other hand, have you guys found anyway to make the program is 
accessible? And have you had the same kind of really lousy lock that everybody 
else report regarding the app and the connectivity with things like the Apple 
health app? I think it would really be cool to have the data in the health app.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, 
> has been happy with it.  He is also blind and has no issues using it.  He did 
> put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of 
> the machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change 
> these.  We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every 
> other day for about an hour, and it is holding up fine.  When I use it, I 
> usually read and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy 
> either.  
> 
> Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Mary 
> Otten [motte...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the 
> measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are 
> probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they 
> are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the 
> right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the 
> ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it 
> does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an 
> easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do 
> your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are 
> two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. 
> You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I 
> didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m 
> not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews 
> for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here 
> my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
> And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I 
> did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that 
> loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no 
> problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the 
> buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I 
> think it’s a good deal.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon 
>> and I think free assembly.
>> I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower 
>> than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting 
>> any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
>> Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via 
>> Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to 
>> your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not 
>> Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous 
>> work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" 
>> ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't 
>> really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or 
>> treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
>> Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on 
>> using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me 
>> someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
>> The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took 
>> him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth co

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-10 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Mary,

We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, 
has been happy with it.  He is also blind and has no issues using it.  He did 
put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of the 
machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change these.  
We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every other day 
for about an hour, and it is holding up fine.  When I use it, I usually read 
and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy either.  

Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Mary 
Otten [motte...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the 
measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are 
probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they 
are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the 
right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the 
ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it 
does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an 
easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do 
your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are 
two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. 
You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I 
didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m 
not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for 
the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my 
feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I 
did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that 
loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no 
problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the 
buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think 
it’s a good deal.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>
> Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon 
> and I think free assembly.
> I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than 
> $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any 
> longer for an extra few more bucks off.
> Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via 
> Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to 
> your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not 
> Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. 
> The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with 
> a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if 
> any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly 
> shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
> Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on 
> using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me 
> someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
> The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took 
> him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back 
> to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the 
> treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea 
> what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, 
> I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But 
> that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed 
> to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:07 PM, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: 
&g

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-10 Thread Mary Otten
I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the 
measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are 
probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they 
are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the 
right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the 
ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it 
does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an 
easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do 
your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are 
two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. 
You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I 
didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m 
not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for 
the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my 
feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I 
did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that 
loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no 
problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the 
buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think 
it’s a good deal.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon 
> and I think free assembly. 
> I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than 
> $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any 
> longer for an extra few more bucks off. 
> Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via 
> Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to 
> your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not 
> Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. 
> The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with 
> a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if 
> any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly 
> shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that. 
> Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on 
> using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me 
> someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead. 
> The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took 
> him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back 
> to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the 
> treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea 
> what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, 
> I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But 
> that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed 
> to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:07 PM, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>> 
>> 
>> Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a 
>> link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to 
>> them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no 
>> longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is 
>> right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
>>> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-09 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and 
I think free assembly. 
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than 
$900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any 
longer for an extra few more bucks off. 
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon 
and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. 
These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. 
You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy 
Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad 
reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience 
putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans 
and other stuff like that. 
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using 
it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who 
had experience with slapping together treadmills instead. 
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him 
over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back 
to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill 
was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going 
on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea 
how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true 
for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered 
and set up by a local store.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:07 PM, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
> 
> Linda
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> 
> Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a 
> link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to 
> them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no 
> longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right 
> that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
>> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a 
>> necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 
>> 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we 
>> come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for 
>> the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier 
>> machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to 
>> get.
>> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
>> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
>> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
>> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
>> screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
>> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
>> is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there 
>> are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle 
>> with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands 
>> on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it 
>> can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to 
>> put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
>> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
>> with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
>> completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
>> workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. 
>> My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps 
>> that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-09 Thread Mary Otten
Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back 
to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill 
was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going 
on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea 
how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true 
for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered 
and set up by a local store.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:07 PM, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
> 
> Linda
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> 
> Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a 
> link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to 
> them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no 
> longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right 
> that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
>> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a 
>> necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 
>> 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we 
>> come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for 
>> the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier 
>> machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to 
>> get.
>> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
>> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
>> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
>> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
>> screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
>> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
>> is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there 
>> are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle 
>> with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands 
>> on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it 
>> can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to 
>> put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
>> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
>> with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
>> completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
>> workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. 
>> My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps 
>> that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. 
>> I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we 
>> would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are 
>> Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and 
>> then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
>> https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
>> For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
>> throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
>> song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
>> slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
>> The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
>> bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
>> bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it 
>> to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You 
>> really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The 
>> description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put 
>> together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My 
>> treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
>> Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
>> re

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-09 Thread 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone

Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.

Linda

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app


Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a 
link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to 
them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no 
longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is 
right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
wrote:


I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a 
necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 
230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here 
we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots 
for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around 
sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding 
on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge 
plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and 
there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to 
hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your 
hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so 
that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just 
knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. 
My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps 
that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. 
I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we 
would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are 
Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That 
and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself 
by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being 
able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and 
convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options 
that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is 
on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I 
waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with 
free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. 
It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, 
once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 
280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or 
die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a 
feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there 
were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The 
rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was 
interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor 
housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or 
down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be 
hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up 
touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app 
accessibility.


Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to 
get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. 
Sole treadmills right 

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Bill Holton
Hese have Bluetooth conductivity or some other accessible means to get the data?





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mary 
Otten 
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:13:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Right now, all of the sole treadmills are on a very deep discount sale, whether 
directly from them or from any local store that might happen to carry them. So 
for instance, the F 63 which has been mentioned here, is right now selling for 
around $900. That would not include any charge for delivery and set up of 
course.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
>
> Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
> Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she 
> gets it cleaned and service once a year.
> Good idea to put the model on that
> honey  coupon list
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is 
> being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm 
> sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then 
> again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store 
> every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite 
> fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a 
> half return for all you Americans.
> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 
> 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
> blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me 
> a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
> maintain and benefit from.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
> love one at that price!
>
> CheersReg
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> Hi Reg,
>
> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
> out for dinner for the trouble, too.
> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
> something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
> is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
>
> If you order one
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
> I want one!
>
> Reg
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>
> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
> It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
> throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come 
> baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the 
> extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Mary Otten
>>>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get 
>>>>>> moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've 
>>>>>> tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're 
>>>>>> a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't 
>>>>>> want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time 
>>>>>> you take a step. 
>>>>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and 
>>>>>> once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to 
>>>>>> my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, 
>>>>>> but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly 
>>>>>> on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the 
>>>>>> Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid 
>>>>>> subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good 
>>>>>> enough for me. 
>>>>>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
>>>>>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology 
>>>>>> man. The great equalizer. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cristóbal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
>>>>>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what 
>>>>>> it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other 
>>>>>> places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a 
>>>>>> better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk 
>>>>>> from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the 
>>>>>> evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 
>>>>>> or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
>>>>>> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a 
>>>>>> half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and 
>>>>>> especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at 
>>>>>> least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I 
>>>>>> do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give 
>>>>>> or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in 
>>>>>> competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with 
>>>>>> growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness 
>>>>>> which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit 
>>>>>> from.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Reg Sullivan
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I 
>>>>>> would love one at that price!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CheersReg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Reg,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Go ahead 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Mary Otten
Right now, all of the sole treadmills are on a very deep discount sale, whether 
directly from them or from any local store that might happen to carry them. So 
for instance, the F 63 which has been mentioned here, is right now selling for 
around $900. That would not include any charge for delivery and set up of 
course.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
> Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she 
> gets it cleaned and service once a year.
> Good idea to put the model on that 
> honey  coupon list
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is 
> being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm 
> sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then 
> again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store 
> every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite 
> fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a 
> half return for all you Americans.
> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 
> 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
> blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me 
> a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
> maintain and benefit from.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
> love one at that price!
> 
> CheersReg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Hi Reg,
> 
> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
> out for dinner for the trouble, too.
> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
> something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
> is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
> 
> If you order one
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
> I want one!
> 
> Reg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
> It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
> throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come 
> baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the 
> extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine 
> was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead o

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Reg Sullivan
Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she 
gets it cleaned and service once a year.
Good idea to put the model on that 
honey  coupon list


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian 
at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being 
listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure 
between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again 
I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every 
morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can 
do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return 
for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a 
dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the 
winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of 
course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to 
maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 
feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a 
base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
maintain and benefit from.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
love one at that price!

CheersReg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) 
and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra 
calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also 
something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was 
the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like 
with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation 
controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen 
Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation 
manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the 
safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
mine whenever she's done using it. 
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with 
Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Mary Otten
ut yeah . . . if you're 
>>>>>> a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't 
>>>>>> want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time 
>>>>>> you take a step. 
>>>>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and 
>>>>>> once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to 
>>>>>> my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, 
>>>>>> but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly 
>>>>>> on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the 
>>>>>> Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid 
>>>>>> subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good 
>>>>>> enough for me. 
>>>>>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
>>>>>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology 
>>>>>> man. The great equalizer. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cristóbal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
>>>>>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what 
>>>>>> it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other 
>>>>>> places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a 
>>>>>> better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk 
>>>>>> from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the 
>>>>>> evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 
>>>>>> or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
>>>>>> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a 
>>>>>> half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and 
>>>>>> especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at 
>>>>>> least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I 
>>>>>> do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give 
>>>>>> or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in 
>>>>>> competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with 
>>>>>> growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness 
>>>>>> which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit 
>>>>>> from.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Reg Sullivan
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I 
>>>>>> would love one at that price!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CheersReg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Reg,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take 
>>>>>> you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
>>>>>> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it 
>>>>>> 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date 
this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.

https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tracy,
> Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the 
> manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. 
> Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal 
> linked to for his   treadmill.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is 
>> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up 
>> with Apple health or my fitness pal.
>> 
>> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
>> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, 
>> but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
>> 
>> Tracy 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
>>> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So 
>>> I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
>>> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
>>> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I 
>>> have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The 
>>> next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do 
>>> mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. 
>>> But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
>>>> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons 
>>>> on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they 
>>>> may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can 
>>>> connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is 
>>>> accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside 
>>>> the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the 
>>>> $899 price is the best I have seen.
>>>> 
>>>> Traci
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
>>>>> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>>>>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the 
>>>>> Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've 
>>>>> since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at 
>>>>> the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 
>>>>> miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want 
>>>>> to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every 
>>>>> day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the 
>>>>> Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and 
>>>>> tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>>>>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, 
>>>>> I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going 
>>>>> cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a 
>>>>> bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want 
>>>>> to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you 
>>>>> take a step. 
>>>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and 
>>>>> once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my 
>>>>> Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but 
>>>&

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the 
manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. 
Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked 
to for his   treadmill.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is 
> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with 
> Apple health or my fitness pal.
> 
> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but 
> from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
> 
> Tracy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
>> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I 
>> wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
>> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
>> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I 
>> have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The 
>> next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do 
>> mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But 
>> you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
>>> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons 
>>> on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may 
>>> be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up 
>>> to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After 
>>> I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health 
>>> app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the 
>>> best I have seen.
>>> 
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
>>>> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>>>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the 
>>>> Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've 
>>>> since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the 
>>>> very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles 
>>>> for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go 
>>>> for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day 
>>>> isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa 
>>>> Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. 
>>>> Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>>>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, 
>>>> I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going 
>>>> cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a 
>>>> bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to 
>>>> be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take 
>>>> a step. 
>>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once 
>>>> I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
>>>> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when 
>>>> the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. 
>>>> There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
>>>> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
>>>> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
>>>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
>>>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology 
>>>> man. The great equalizer. 
>>>> 
>>>> C

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why 
I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple 
health or my fitness pal.

I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but 
from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.

Tracy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tracy,
> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I 
> wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I 
> have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The 
> next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do 
> mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But 
> you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
>> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on 
>> the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be 
>> easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to 
>> three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I 
>> walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. 
>> The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the best I 
>> have seen.
>> 
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
>>> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map 
>>> My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since 
>>> been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very 
>>> least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a 
>>> walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a 
>>> pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't 
>>> always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana 
>>> wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not 
>>> going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
>>> wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going 
>>> cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller 
>>> person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on 
>>> something that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once 
>>> I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
>>> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when 
>>> the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. 
>>> There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
>>> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
>>> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
>>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
>>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. 
>>> The great equalizer. 
>>> 
>>> Cristóbal
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>> 
>>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
>>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it 
>>> is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, 
>>> I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, 
>>&g

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which 
has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t 
count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who 
read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review 
did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m 
hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, 
is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button 
and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your 
health and safety.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on 
> the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be 
> easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to 
> three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I 
> walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. 
> The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the best I 
> have seen.
> 
> Traci
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
>> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map 
>> My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since 
>> been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very 
>> least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a 
>> walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a 
>> pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't 
>> always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind 
>> season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to 
>> go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
>> wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap 
>> with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller 
>> person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on 
>> something that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I 
>> identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
>> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the 
>> Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There 
>> were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
>> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
>> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf 
>> mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The 
>> great equalizer. 
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>> 
>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it 
>> is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, 
>> I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but 
>> then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my 
>> store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk 
>> quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a 
>> mile and a half return for all you Americans.
>> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
>> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
>> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
>> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
>> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I 
>> am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitiv

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Traci Duncan
Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really 
liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit 
are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to 
braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or 
four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the 
treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model 
is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the best I have seen.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map 
> My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been 
> resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 
> miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a 
> day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. 
> Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 
> 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're 
> expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in 
> all that nasty wind.`
> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
> wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap 
> with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, 
> you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something 
> that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I 
> identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the 
> Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There 
> were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf 
> mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The 
> great equalizer. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is 
> being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm 
> sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then 
> again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store 
> every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite 
> fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a 
> half return for all you Americans.
> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half 
> a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in 
> the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. 
> Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough 
> to maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 
> 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
> blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me 
> a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
> maintain and benefit from.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
> love one at that price!
> 
> CheersReg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Hi Reg,
> 
> Go ahead and orde

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-08 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My 
Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been 
resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 
miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. 
With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where 
we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or 
more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting 
another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that 
nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I 
wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap 
with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, 
you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something 
that's going to shake every single time you take a step. 
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I 
identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon 
list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon 
alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also 
some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I 
didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my 
results after my walk is good enough for me. 
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf 
mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The 
great equalizer. 
   
Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian 
at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being 
listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure 
between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again 
I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every 
morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can 
do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return 
for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a 
dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the 
winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of 
course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to 
maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 
feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a 
base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
maintain and benefit from.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
love one at that price!

CheersReg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian 
at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being 
listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure 
between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again 
I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every 
morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can 
do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return 
for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a 
dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the 
winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of 
course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to 
maintain my weight at about175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 
feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became 
blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a 
base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still 
maintain and benefit from.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
love one at that price!

CheersReg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) 
and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra 
calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also 
something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was 
the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like 
with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation 
controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen 
Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation 
manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the 
safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
mine whenever she's done using it. 
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with 
Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I 
know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, 
but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking 
around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Reg Sullivan
Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I would 
love one at that price!

CheersReg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) 
and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra 
calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also 
something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was 
the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like 
with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation 
controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen 
Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation 
manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the 
safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
mine whenever she's done using it. 
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with 
Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I 
know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, 
but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking 
around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to 
go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really 
don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description 
talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not 
going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage 
and will stay there until I move or die.  
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel 
for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there  were other 
things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls 
are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in 
until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the 
front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the 
buttons. Others had weird feeling

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Cristobal Munoz
Holy smokes… Hey, anyone want to buy a slightly used treadmill? I’ll cut you a 
deal.
To be clear, it was on sale via other sides as well. Walmart, Dick’s Sporting 
Goods. In fact, where I was able to try it out as well as some others was at my 
local Sears. 
> There’s always the Nautilis site directly too. I just added it to my honey  
> coupon list and got an alert notification when it dropped in price on Amazon. 
> On Nov 7, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Reg,
> 
> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
> out for dinner for the trouble, too.
> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
> something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
> is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
> 
> If you order one
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
> I want one!
> 
> Reg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
> It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
> throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come 
> baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the 
> extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine 
> was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
> screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
> is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
> speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
> fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
> the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
> your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
> mine whenever she's done using it. 
> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
> with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
> completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
> workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
> Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that 
> I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
> aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
> it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet 
> connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then 
> you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
> https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
> For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
> throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
> song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
> slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
> The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
> bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
> bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it 
> to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You 
> really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The 
> description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put 
> together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My 
> treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.  
> Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
> retailer that has some models.

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you 
out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said 
something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing 
is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) 
and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra 
calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also 
something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was 
the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like 
with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation 
controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen 
Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation 
manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the 
safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
mine whenever she's done using it. 
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with 
Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I 
know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, 
but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking 
around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to 
go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really 
don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description 
talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not 
going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage 
and will stay there until I move or die.  
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel 
for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there  were other 
things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls 
are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in 
until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the 
front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the 
buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if 
you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of 
stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I was of the same mindset, but I've come to the realization that being able to 
control a treadmill via an app really isn't as important as it is having the 
ability to quickly and efficiently access the treadmill controls in a tactile 
manner. The Nautilus in this case, has buttons to quickly jump to different 
preset speeds and incline levels on the console along with having the manual 
controls both on the console as well as on the handrails that work in 
increments of one for incline or a tenth of a mile for speed. I'm usually 
blasting my music or listening to an audiobook or Netflix anyway while on my 
walks/runs, so it's not like I'd even want to interact with an app to adjust 
this or check that on the treadmill since you can only hear and pay attention 
to so many things at the same time while trying to maintain your stride and not 
somehow step wrong or whatever.
Like I mentioned earlier, to mix it up, I'll switch the pace or incline by 
songs to break up the monotony or if reading/listening to a show, use a 
separate interval timer and set it for 5 or ten or however many minutes I want. 
Where I would be interested in a machine that can be controlled or monitored 
via an app is a stationary bike. You have a little more control over stuff and 
don’t have to worry about dropping anything or stepping wrong while tapping 
away and being distracted. 
The bike we have is a Schwin recumbant bike that's about 10 years old. I 
brailled the display where I could, but I more often than not, need my wife to 
select the program for me since it's not really accessible. With this one, 
there's no bluetooth to even check my progress, but I've used it enough times 
where she's gone over my stats at the end that I know by now my average calorie 
burn is roughly 300 for an hour of peddling. Not ideal, but you work with what 
you got. 

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

No I think the handrail controls are great idea. I just thought it would be 
nice to be able to have something where you could actually take advantage of 
all those programs that  they build in. The sole that I was looking at also has 
handrail control. And I’m not going to be running. I have  neuropathy, thank 
you chemotherapy, so I’m just interested in being able to keep up walking when 
the weather is not so great for going out.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Made me check the Nautilus site. Looks like they're still selling it if you 
> want to buy directly from them. https://www.nautilus.com/nautilus-treadmills
> So I exaggerated . The T618 is only 254 LBS. Still, I'm not moving that 
> sucker any time soon. 
> After finding a model with built-in handrail controls, I think I'd find it 
> hard to go back to something that didn't have this design in the future. App 
> accessibility in this case would be secondary to this consideration for me.
> I have a hard enough time trying to swipe and double tap on my propped up 
> iPhone with Pandora for skipping or doing a thumbs up/down while I'm all out 
> of breath and running/jogging or doing a hard incline without losing my 
> rhythm, I don't know how practical it would be to try navigating a bunch of 
> menus or checking stats in real time while keeping up a hard pace. With so 
> many moving parts, you could probably hurt yourself good if you're not 
> careful. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a 
> link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to 
> them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no 
> longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right 
> that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
>> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a 
>> necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 
>> 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we 
>> come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for 
>> the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier 
>> machine was also something I

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Mary Otten
No I think the handrail controls are great idea. I just thought it would be 
nice to be able to have something where you could actually take advantage of 
all those programs that  they build in. The sole that I was looking at also has 
handrail control. And I’m not going to be running. I have  neuropathy, thank 
you chemotherapy, so I’m just interested in being able to keep up walking when 
the weather is not so great for going out.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Made me check the Nautilus site. Looks like they're still selling it if you 
> want to buy directly from them. https://www.nautilus.com/nautilus-treadmills
> So I exaggerated . The T618 is only 254 LBS. Still, I'm not moving that 
> sucker any time soon. 
> After finding a model with built-in handrail controls, I think I'd find it 
> hard to go back to something that didn't have this design in the future. App 
> accessibility in this case would be secondary to this consideration for me.
> I have a hard enough time trying to swipe and double tap on my propped up 
> iPhone with Pandora for skipping or doing a thumbs up/down while I'm all out 
> of breath and running/jogging or doing a hard incline without losing my 
> rhythm, I don't know how practical it would be to try navigating a bunch of 
> menus or checking stats in real time while keeping up a hard pace. With so 
> many moving parts, you could probably hurt yourself good if you're not 
> careful. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a 
> link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to 
> them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no 
> longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right 
> that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
>> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a 
>> necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 
>> 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we 
>> come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for 
>> the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier 
>> machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to 
>> get. 
>> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
>> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
>> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
>> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
>> screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
>> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
>> is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there 
>> are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle 
>> with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands 
>> on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it 
>> can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to 
>> put it back to mine whenever she's done using it. 
>> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
>> with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
>> completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
>> workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. 
>> My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps 
>> that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. 
>> I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we 
>> would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are 
>> Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and 
>> then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
>> https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
>> For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
>> throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast 

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Made me check the Nautilus site. Looks like they're still selling it if you 
want to buy directly from them. https://www.nautilus.com/nautilus-treadmills
So I exaggerated . The T618 is only 254 LBS. Still, I'm not moving that sucker 
any time soon. 
After finding a model with built-in handrail controls, I think I'd find it hard 
to go back to something that didn't have this design in the future. App 
accessibility in this case would be secondary to this consideration for me.
I have a hard enough time trying to swipe and double tap on my propped up 
iPhone with Pandora for skipping or doing a thumbs up/down while I'm all out of 
breath and running/jogging or doing a hard incline without losing my rhythm, I 
don't know how practical it would be to try navigating a bunch of menus or 
checking stats in real time while keeping up a hard pace. With so many moving 
parts, you could probably hurt yourself good if you're not careful. 

 Cristóbal

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link 
on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, 
which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer 
available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that 
seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
> It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
> throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come 
> baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the 
> extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine 
> was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
> screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
> is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
> speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
> fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
> the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
> your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
> mine whenever she's done using it. 
> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
> with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
> completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
> workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
> Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that 
> I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
> aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
> it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet 
> connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then 
> you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
> https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
> For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
> throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
> song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
> slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
> The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
> bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
> bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it 
> to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You 
> really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The 
> description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put 
> together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My 
> treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.  
> Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  fee

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Mary Otten
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link 
on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, 
which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer 
available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that 
seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
> It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
> throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come 
> baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the 
> extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine 
> was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
> screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
> is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
> speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
> fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
> the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
> your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
> mine whenever she's done using it. 
> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
> with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
> completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
> workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
> Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that 
> I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
> aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
> it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet 
> connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then 
> you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
> https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
> For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
> throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
> song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
> slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
> The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
> bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
> bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it 
> to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You 
> really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The 
> description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put 
> together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My 
> treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.  
> Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
> retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel 
> for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there  were 
> other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail 
> controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was 
> interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor 
> housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down 
> to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to 
> distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch 
> screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
> 
> Hi all,
> I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to 
> get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. 
> Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it 
> gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if 

Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
I do too he should get a commission fee or something (smile).
Cristobal I was wondering you mentioned two others in the
Nautilus line that are closely related. Might you have links to them too or 
their model numbers? I'd have tried to find them myself but would hate to 
end up on the wrong thing. I just thought it'd be neat to compare the other 
two similar ones from that line you mentioned.  Thanks in advance if you 
have their links too. If not that's perfectly understandable.


-Original Message- 
From: Reg Sullivan

Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristobal Muñoz

Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a 
necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 
230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we 
come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for 
the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier 
machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to 
get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus 
is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there 
are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle 
with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands 
on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it 
can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to 
put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. 
My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps 
that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. 
I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we 
would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are 
Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and 
then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it 
to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You 
really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The 
description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put 
together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My 
treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel 
for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there  were 
other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail 
controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was 
interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor 
housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or 
down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be 
hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up 
touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app 
accessibility.


Cristóbal

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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018

RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Reg Sullivan
WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) 
and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra 
calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also 
something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was 
the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like 
with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation 
controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen 
Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation 
manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the 
safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
mine whenever she's done using it. 
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with 
Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I 
know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, 
but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking 
around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to 
go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really 
don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description 
talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not 
going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage 
and will stay there until I move or die.  
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel 
for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there  were other 
things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls 
are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in 
until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the 
front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the 
buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if 
you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of 
stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get 
one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole 
treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets 
universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any 
suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

2018-11-07 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. 
It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS 
throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) 
and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra 
calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also 
something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get. 
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was 
the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like 
with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation 
controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. 
Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation 
manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the 
safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are 
speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with 
fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around 
the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember 
your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to 
mine whenever she's done using it. 
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with 
Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My 
Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I 
know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not 
aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want 
it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, 
but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking 
around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by 
song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to 
slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that 
bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the 
bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to 
go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really 
don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description 
talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not 
going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage 
and will stay there until I move or die.  
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel 
for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there  were other 
things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls 
are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in 
until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the 
front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the 
buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if 
you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of 
stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get 
one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole 
treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets 
universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any 
suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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