Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
No I do this as well so not a rarity at all. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 01/10/2013 23:23, Ron Miller wrote: I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting
Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still
Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will dismiss the highlighted app. Andy -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical
Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button. -- Raul A. Gallegos I was expecting applause, but I suppose stunned silence is equally appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You
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I agree with you here. I tried tapping on home but that did not take me back to home and I was forced to press the home button anyway, so why not just let the app do it for us! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 2 Oct 2013, at 01:43 am, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don’t think it really matters though. My entire point was, it doesn’t make sense for home to bee in the app switcher if all other apps are closed. It should just take you directly to the home screen since the only thing you can do is lock your phone or go to the home screen. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one
Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
If you flick up or down, you'll hear the option to remove the item from the App Switcher. You can then just double tap to have it removed. This is the action item in the roter, and the default action is to open the item. On 10/02/2013 07:28 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will dismiss the highlighted app. Andy -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen
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If you're physical home button isn't working then you have bigger problems than closing out your App Switcher! :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. On 10/02/2013 08:30 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button. -- Raul A. Gallegos I was expecting applause, but I suppose stunned silence is equally appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe
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lol, if your home button wasn’t working, how would you get into the app switcher to begin with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button. -- Raul A. Gallegos I was expecting applause, but I suppose stunned silence is equally appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone
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Hi Andy and Alan, A 3-finger swipe up will close the app and if you have only one or 2 apps to close I find I use that gesture as well. However, as Christopher already said, you can also close an app by flicking up or down with 1 finger which puts focus on the Close option of the action rotor and then double tap. What I think it was Ron was describing was an easy and quick method to close many apps since in the app switcher the rotor selection remains on Close once you put it there. This means if you flick up or down with one finger you can simply double tap on an app, it disappears and the next apps slides over in its place, you can now continue to only double tap to close it and so on. What I find works even better and I have posted this twice is to use the split tap. If I have 10 or more apps open and I want to close them all out I just find the one immediately to the right of the Home button, so pretty much right in the middle of the screen. I now flick down to change to Close, then I put one finger on the app and start split tapping. I only have a 4S, but doing this closes apps and slides them over just about as fast as I can split tap, there is no delay and I can close 10 or 12 apps in probably about 3 seconds. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will dismiss the highlighted app. Andy -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info
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I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara
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I close every app every morning, then power down and back up, seems to help with battery life along with a couple of other things. I should say I do this most days. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can't close home, why bother having it as the last
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Hi, Oh! I love the new app switcher. Anything that requires me to do less screen taps and gestures is a good thing in my opinion. The new app switcher is way more efficient. It be even better if they change that home issue I was talking about earlier in the thread. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can't close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn't even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
I use the two finger scrub to close the app switcher all of the time. Even in IOS 6. Eric Whitten On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can't close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn't even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo
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Hi, I don’t think it really matters though. My entire point was, it doesn’t make sense for home to bee in the app switcher if all other apps are closed. It should just take you directly to the home screen since the only thing you can do is lock your phone or go to the home screen. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I
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I don't think you're that rare. I don't do it frequently, but occasionally I'll just go through and clean out everything in my App Switcher. From following the list, I think some people do this regularly, plus it's also a frequent suggestion when trouble shooting some issue on the phone. On 10/01/2013 05:23 PM, Ron Miller wrote: I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way
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I don't but am getting used to it, seems a lot more trouble, I never had to switch pages on the old app switcher, I done had about 30 apps in there and just kept tapping to delete them all until it was done. Normally I would not have had that many but I was in a hospital room and doing a lot of messing around while my husband was pretty much out of it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hi, yes I feel the same way. I really like the new way of accessing the app switcher. I also like the 3-finger swipe up to close the app. have a blessed day, Nicki If you enjoy college football or the NFL, come join us at our new group, touchdowncrazy. Send a blank e-mail message to: touchdowncrazy-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -Original Message- From: Maria and Joe Chapman Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hi. for those of us that like to swipe through apps, the app switcher is a lot easier. there were a lot of times with the old way of using the app switcher that I'd flick to an ap and think hmmm I want to open that, but of course I couldn't because I was in edit mode so to speak. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 28/09/2013, at 7:58 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone
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Rose, I have noticed that if I tap delete on one app in the switcher and raise my finger and wait a sec that another app will pop up that I can just tap to close. Never have had to switch pages, and I am a really bad girl about not closing any apps! (smiles) Now, I have never had 30 apps running, but I have had about 12 or so and works like a charm. reggie and Allegra On Sep 29, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: I don't but am getting used to it, seems a lot more trouble, I never had to switch pages on the old app switcher, I done had about 30 apps in there and just kept tapping to delete them all until it was done. Normally I would not have had that many but I was in a hospital room and doing a lot of messing around while my husband was pretty much out of it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hi, yes I feel the same way. I really like the new way of accessing the app switcher. I also like the 3-finger swipe up to close the app. have a blessed day, Nicki If you enjoy college football or the NFL, come join us at our new group, touchdowncrazy. Send a blank e-mail message to: touchdowncrazy-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -Original Message- From: Maria and Joe Chapman Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hi. for those of us that like to swipe through apps, the app switcher is a lot easier. there were a lot of times with the old way of using the app switcher that I'd flick to an ap and think hmmm I want to open that, but of course I couldn't because I was in edit mode so to speak. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 28/09/2013, at 7:58 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released
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Right, you didn't have to switch pages in IOS 6 if you were just deleting them, but if you had more than four open, and wanted to keep more than four open, then you would have to switch pages to get to anything but the first four pages in the App Switcher. You also had to switch pages in the App Switcher to get to settings like portrait lock mode. On 09/29/2013 08:38 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote: Rose, I have noticed that if I tap delete on one app in the switcher and raise my finger and wait a sec that another app will pop up that I can just tap to close. Never have had to switch pages, and I am a really bad girl about not closing any apps! (smiles) Now, I have never had 30 apps running, but I have had about 12 or so and works like a charm. reggie and Allegra On Sep 29, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: I don't but am getting used to it, seems a lot more trouble, I never had to switch pages on the old app switcher, I done had about 30 apps in there and just kept tapping to delete them all until it was done. Normally I would not have had that many but I was in a hospital room and doing a lot of messing around while my husband was pretty much out of it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hi, yes I feel the same way. I really like the new way of accessing the app switcher. I also like the 3-finger swipe up to close the app. have a blessed day, Nicki If you enjoy college football or the NFL, come join us at our new group, touchdowncrazy. Send a blank e-mail message to: touchdowncrazy-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -Original Message- From: Maria and Joe Chapman Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hi. for those of us that like to swipe through apps, the app switcher is a lot easier. there were a lot of times with the old way of using the app switcher that I'd flick to an ap and think hmmm I want to open that, but of course I couldn't because I was in edit mode so to speak. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 28/09/2013, at 7:58 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all
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Hi. for those of us that like to swipe through apps, the app switcher is a lot easier. there were a lot of times with the old way of using the app switcher that I'd flick to an ap and think hmmm I want to open that, but of course I couldn't because I was in edit mode so to speak. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 28/09/2013, at 7:58 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow
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Hi, yes I feel the same way. I really like the new way of accessing the app switcher. I also like the 3-finger swipe up to close the app. have a blessed day, Nicki If you enjoy college football or the NFL, come join us at our new group, touchdowncrazy. Send a blank e-mail message to: touchdowncrazy-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -Original Message- From: Maria and Joe Chapman Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hi. for those of us that like to swipe through apps, the app switcher is a lot easier. there were a lot of times with the old way of using the app switcher that I'd flick to an ap and think hmmm I want to open that, but of course I couldn't because I was in edit mode so to speak. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 28/09/2013, at 7:58 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https
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Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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You do it in control center Kliphton iMessage kliph...@icloud.com - E-Mail kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype) kliphton72 (Personal blob-Read at your own risk) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com ~text only~ 914-820-2298 On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:14 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: iOS 7, thoughts?
What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone
The new App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
Well, there's two things I find so great about the App Switcher. The first is that I can get to all of my apps without having to switch pages. I really like not having to do a three finger swipe to get to anything but the last four apps in my App Switcher. The other thing I like is that I don't have to do a double tap and hold to be able to start deleting apps. I can just do a three finger swipe up or a flick up and then a double tap to remove an app from the App Switcher. A third thing I like is that I hear the status as to whether an app is running or not. On 09/27/2013 04:58 PM, Rose Combs wrote: What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
As far as the texts and emails and the native keyboard, I have found the same shifting around. I have found that using mBraille and Fleksy and either directly sending from mBraille or going to reply and pasting from either app works beautifully. I can fix my work in the apps and not even bother with the edit field. So, until I accustom myself to the new edit fields, this is the easiest way for me. Maybe this would help someone else. I also notice that the jumpiness of the VO is much worse on iPad. Not sure why, but it may be because I am still learning the screen on iPad. I just don't know. Is this jumpiness the same on 5s? Just curious. reggie and Allegra On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
I wasn't able to reproduce the jumping us on the 5S in the Apple Store. Mike On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: As far as the texts and emails and the native keyboard, I have found the same shifting around. I have found that using mBraille and Fleksy and either directly sending from mBraille or going to reply and pasting from either app works beautifully. I can fix my work in the apps and not even bother with the edit field. So, until I accustom myself to the new edit fields, this is the easiest way for me. Maybe this would help someone else. I also notice that the jumpiness of the VO is much worse on iPad. Not sure why, but it may be because I am still learning the screen on iPad. I just don't know. Is this jumpiness the same on 5s? Just curious. reggie and Allegra On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons today, all and missed. Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say VoiceOver or app store properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the read all gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the read all gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: iOS 7, thoughts?
Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
I love the new siri voices Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: ios 7, thoughts?
Hi, Well, yes, sluggishness or lack of it is definitely a matter of perception and is very subjective. On my 4s, navigating on the home screen is very responsive and I don't mind the little bit of extra time that it takes for it to open an app. However, when navigating and performing actions within apps, it is often much slower than it was before. I can't give you specific examples at the moment but it definitely has a sort of sluggish feel to it running IOS7. If you have an opportunity, you might want to use a 4s, running IOS7, before buying one. The sluggishness that I am talking about isn't really apparent until you use it for a while. Just moving around the home screen and opening a couple apps, you probably won't notice it and you might not notice it just from listening to someone using it. Now, don't get me wrong. I still love my iPhone and I am not about to go upgrade from my 4s just because of this. However, I have used both my wife's 4 and my 4s with IOS7 and, based on this, I think that you may not see as much of a performance difference between the two as you might think. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is 7, thoughts? Well to my mind that depends on what you mean by sluggish. I heard a friend's iPhone 4s running iOS 7. Navigating the home screen snaps and so is typing but you got to be careful as it can get a bit racy so to speak. I did hear perhaps a few seconds delay from double tapping on an app to its launch, but that's not a show stopper for me. But that's me and you might prefer things to happen in an instant. On 25/09/2013 14:10, Scott Duck wrote: It's sluggish on a 4s too. It is on mine anyway. Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
stupid decreased time delay for the touchscreen is annoying me to no end! I'll be flicking through emails or stuff on Safari or whatever, and all of a sudden, I jump 2 lines down instead of 1. Or I get placed at the top of the article again, or the VoiceOver cursor jumps to some random link. I really hope Apple takes a better attitude toward user's frustrations with this than their blasé attitude toward things like the antenna issues in the iPhone 4. Otherwise, things are all right. I can live with most of the other bugs, but this one (if it's not a feature), is going to drive me absolutely bonkers! I'm not seeing too much improvement with the headings bug. Overall, though, I do like iOS 7. Thanks, Ari On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: iOS 7, thoughts?
The annoying thing for me is when I'm writing a text, and my texts go all over the place. Sometimes the beginning is good, but in the middle goes to the end, and it sounds all jumbled, and makes me out to think I can't write texts. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 5:15 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? stupid decreased time delay for the touchscreen is annoying me to no end! I'll be flicking through emails or stuff on Safari or whatever, and all of a sudden, I jump 2 lines down instead of 1. Or I get placed at the top of the article again, or the VoiceOver cursor jumps to some random link. I really hope Apple takes a better attitude toward user's frustrations with this than their blasé attitude toward things like the antenna issues in the iPhone 4. Otherwise, things are all right. I can live with most of the other bugs, but this one (if it's not a feature), is going to drive me absolutely bonkers! I'm not seeing too much improvement with the headings bug. Overall, though, I do like iOS 7. Thanks, Ari On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators
Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
I like IOS 7. There are a couple bugs to be sure but overall I am happy with it. I like the control center, and I love the new way the app switcher works. though, I do wish they had a kill all apps button in the switcher. I am one of the few who uses the standard typing and prefer it over touch typing and I find that vo is more responsive when I am moving around the screen and inputting letters. There is a bit of sluggishness in regards to vo in other areas, but not enough to bother me. It is something I am sure will be worked out quickly. I like the feature of being able to 2 finger double tap to start dictation and stop dictation, it is a handy feature. I am having fun with the hand writing option as well. The focus can jump around more quickly but I have learned how to adapt to it and I don't have that happen as much as in the beginning. I have the most challenge when moving apps into folders. I had no problems before but do to sensativity coupled with a glitch which will randomly kick apps I had already moved into folders, out, it is a bit annoying. But, again no big deal since I know that it will get fixed. I haven't been on the web much with my phone so haven't encountered the heading bug. If this is still present that is disappointing as that was a great frustration. I love the new siri voices, particularly the male voice. I am still not impressed with the high quality voice for voice over, but I felt the same with IOS 6. I think the compact voices are easier on the ear. The hq voices, sound hissy and not crisp, I don't know how else to describe what I dislike about them. I did notice that when turning my phone back on today for the first time since I updated that it took longer then it used to. I don't know if this is because I am using the 4s or just my specific phone, but I definitely noticed a difference. I am very happy with IOS 7. I know that every new program will have it's share of quarks and oddities which didn't crop up during the testing phase. I know too, that bugs will be addressed and that any kinks will get worked out. Kellie, guide Loki and retired July -Original Message- From: Kimmie Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 7, thoughts? The annoying thing for me is when I'm writing a text, and my texts go all over the place. Sometimes the beginning is good, but in the middle goes to the end, and it sounds all jumbled, and makes me out to think I can't write texts. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 5:15 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? stupid decreased time delay for the touchscreen is annoying me to no end! I'll be flicking through emails or stuff on Safari or whatever, and all of a sudden, I jump 2 lines down instead of 1. Or I get placed at the top of the article again, or the VoiceOver cursor jumps to some random link. I really hope Apple takes a better attitude toward user's frustrations with this than their blasé attitude toward things like the antenna issues in the iPhone 4. Otherwise, things are all right. I can live with most of the other bugs, but this one (if it's not a feature), is going to drive me absolutely bonkers! I'm not seeing too much improvement with the headings bug. Overall, though, I do like iOS 7. Thanks, Ari On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http
Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
IOS is more responsive when doing Voice Over gestures ie. touch gestures. On iPhone 5. Take care Den 25. sep. 2013 kl. 15:40 skrev Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com: I love the new siri voices Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi, I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be turned on and off independently of the mute switch. Most of the other new features aren't a big deal to me. The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s. If I had it to do over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
