Re: [Vo]:Marinov's ball-bearing motor

2009-06-26 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Harry Veeder wrote: similar to this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g60okBMeTKoNR=1 And the rotor of a DC motor is already a ball bearing motor! I have several of these I could pull out of the stator magnets. Just hook it to a few hundred amps? See

Re: [Vo]:Marinov's ball-bearing motor

2009-06-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: similar to this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g60okBMeTKoNR=1 harry Here are some more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1PgR1hyXHsfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJK-W9FwjMc The following is a very different design, but

[Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Horace Heffner
I don't know why some of these are called Bedini motors. These methods of motor commutation have been around for decades. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTG2U8e6Mdo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byLzUbTjhm0feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsobVuzUSiEfeature=related

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Terry Blanton
We built and tested the bicycle wheel pulsed motor using four NdFeBo magnets on the wheel and a single stationary coil. I wanted to do this since I had never seen anyone actually measure the torque of a Bedini motor. They always use one coil to pulse the wheel and another for a pickup to charge

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: We built and tested the bicycle wheel pulsed motor using four NdFeBo magnets on the wheel and a single stationary coil. I wanted to do this since I had never seen anyone actually measure the torque of a Bedini motor. . . . The best COP we were able to obtain was about

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Terry Blanton
Using the DR-2112: http://www.lorenz-messtechnik.de/english/products/torque_rotating_contactless.php we measure it directly. Mechanical energy generated per cycle is simply T Nm x 2 pi radians = Joules output. Electrical energy is measured using a digital scope to generate CSV files for V I

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: We built and tested the bicycle wheel pulsed motor using four NdFeBo magnets on the wheel and a single stationary coil. I wanted to do this since I had never seen anyone actually measure the torque of a Bedini motor. . .

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Using the DR-2112: http://www.lorenz-messtechnik.de/english/products/torque_rotating_contactless.php we measure it directly. Ah. So this is a miniature dynamometer. I guess it acts as a brake slowing the thing down to some extent while measuring RPMs. The big

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Terry Blanton
It has a strain gauge on the rotor and the distortion of the rotor under load is transmitted via an ingenious system of digitizers and transformers. This is translated into a 5 VDC (max) signal proportional to the torque. You can feed it into one of the digital scope channels and display the

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread Terry Blanton
Yes, overunity.com has thousands of such people. Terry On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Horace Heffnerhheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: We built and tested the bicycle wheel pulsed motor using four NdFeBo magnets on the

Re: [Vo]:Bedini motors

2009-06-26 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Terry Blanton wrote: Yes, overunity.com has thousands of such people. In 1995, if you wanted to trigger a contemporary Amateur Science revolution, you'd have the brilliant idea to perform a simple test: start a website for amateur science, and another one for crackpot

[Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, William Beaty wrote: One thing about self-excited electric motors of all kinds: they work independantly of voltage polarity. WOW! I got it, I got it! In a ball bearing motor, if the path of current is spiral, then it creates a magnetic dipole field on axis with the

Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread John Berry
A few thoughts, btw I have not fully comprehended everything you've said yet but I'll have a crack at it... From the stationary view point a magnetic dipole would be created only if electron drift tended not to spiral. The magnetic field would be generated by the rotating protons .vs non spiraling

Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread John Berry
After re-reading I still fail to understand your contact point thought, but is it merely to produce a magnetic field in the shaft? If we used a magnetized shaft, north at one end south at the other would this still be required to create the effect? Is the force you are envisioning one that puts a

Re: [Vo]:Need assistance with math terminology

2009-06-26 Thread Michel Jullian
After the third person addressing offense, now we have first person addressing! This is intolerable, where's the moderator? ;-) Michel 2009/6/25 William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: The problem is people believe that their learnt or innate prejudice exceeds

[Vo]:Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

2009-06-26 Thread John Berry
I don't think this can be considered political as no one votes for the UN or WHO and it's a health warning not a discussion or about political view points. Short version, Swine Flu is not especially deadly and compared to the numbers killed by regular flu it isn't a concern especially as large

Re: [Vo]:Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

2009-06-26 Thread Edmund Storms
How do they plan to enforce delivery of the vaccine? Personally, the police would have to come to my door and restrain me. How about you? Ed On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:20 PM, John Berry wrote: I don't think this can be considered political as no one votes for the UN or WHO and it's a health

Re: [Vo]:Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

2009-06-26 Thread John Berry
I'd have already headed for the hills... On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: How do they plan to enforce delivery of the vaccine? Personally, the police would have to come to my door and restrain me. How about you? Ed On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:20 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Dateline: 2013

2009-06-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:27:40 -0400: Hi, [snip] Have you approached CSIRO? From memory I spoke to someone there a couple of years back, but without any luck. Are APRA-E funds limited to US residents? US companies. (I could probably approach them through a

Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: From the stationary view point a magnetic dipole would be created only if electron drift tended not to spiral. Then a simple spiral-shaped coil would not produce a magnetic dipole. Build the thing, see which parts of my explanation *must* be wrong.

Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: After re-reading I still fail to understand your contact point thought, but is it merely to produce a magnetic field in the shaft? A Faraday motor has a radial current in a disk, and a magnet to produce a b-field perpendicular to the disk. This produces

Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread John Berry
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:14 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: From the stationary view point a magnetic dipole would be created only if electron drift tended not to spiral. Then a simple spiral-shaped coil would not produce a magnetic

Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread John Berry
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: After re-reading I still fail to understand your contact point thought, but is it merely to produce a magnetic field in the shaft? A Faraday motor has a radial current in a disk,

RE: [Vo]:Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

2009-06-26 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
This sounds like another run-of-the-mill scare-story to me. 1. There is no 'forced-vaccination' program being proposed. 2. The use of live virus in the making of vaccines is routine. Some vaccines, like the Salk polio vaccine, is made with attenuated live virus. These kinds of

Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!

2009-06-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 26, 2009, at 5:25 PM, William Beaty wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: If we used a magnetized shaft, north at one end south at the other would this still be required to create the effect? That would work. A magnetized shaft would turn it into a conventional Faraday