Re: [Vo]:Responses to four questions from Ron Maimon

In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:43:21 -0800: Hi, [snip] >A further reply from Ron, below. > >Eric > > >"The stopping distance is around 600 atoms according to Spaandonk, and I >don't dispute the theoretical value, but I don't know if this is accurate, >it can be larger or s

Re: [Vo]:Responses to four questions from Ron Maimon

A further reply from Ron, below. Eric "The stopping distance is around 600 atoms according to Spaandonk, and I don't dispute the theoretical value, but I don't know if this is accurate, it can be larger or smaller, because the calculations are theoretical, and this energy regime is comparable to

Re: [Vo]:OT: Wealth and Inequality in U.S.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Craig wrote: The solution is to stop taking money from people against their will, > using threats of violence. The idea that we can improve society if only > we can threaten enough people, and take enough money from them, is > preposterous. > I cannot think of a m

[Vo]:Artificial Aurora

NRL Scientists Produce Densest Artificial Ionospheric Plasma Clouds Using HAARP http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2013/nrl-scientists-produce-densest-artificial-ionospheric-plasma-clouds-using-haarp Harry

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

a.ashfield wrote: > Because the scientific establishment is so certain LENR doesn’t work, it > doesn’t matter what tests are run by anybody or academic group. It will > always be instrument error or “claimed to be” or the error du jour. > The "scientific establishment" is an abstraction. It i

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

The wiki article on cold fusion shows why the science establishment will not accept any experiment.It reads: /"In January 2011 inventor Andrea Rossi together with researcher Sergio Focardi

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

DJ Cravens wrote: > JedA self running machine has to incorporate some design elements that > make it > > obvious the thing is not fake. > OK, you are in the proof mode again.. > OK what are your *specific *requirements? > I started a new thread to untangle the confusion: "You need an el

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[snip] Not only do the photons and dipoles couple very strongly in the lattice, they also couple to the quantum vacuum as evidenced by the appearance of vacuum Rabi splitting in the spectroscopic analysis of the associated EMF photon radiation.[/snip] Axil, not sure what you reference as "va

[Vo]:You need an electric generator with electrolysis but not gas loading

In this discussion we have lost track of the fact that you need a generator for electrolysis cold fusion. You need a flow of electricity to keep the reaction going. You do not need that with gas loading. Years ago I was keen on making some sort of electric generator, most easily with a thermoelect

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

Proof: Use a machine with a mass, M, to raise the temperature of a body of water, L, from a starting temperature of C1 to C2, in time T, using P for input power (batteries or measured electric power.) Any values that surpass known chemical means will be satisfactory. Any LENR system that can't hea

Re: [Vo]:the quantum computer and LENR are brothers

From: francis [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:45 PM To: 'janap...@gmail.com' Subject: Re: [Vo]:the quantum computer and LENR are brothers Axil, energy has to be coming "from" the vacuum field fluctuations.. as you say the self stimulation is "driven by"

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

Interestingly, this story is in the news today: "Russia carries out its 'biggest nuclear army drill in two decades' as Pentagon plays down its concerns" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288579/Russia-carries-biggest-nuclear-test-decades-Pentagon-plays-concerns.html Russia apparently con

RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

JedA self running machine has to incorporate some design elements that make it obvious the thing is not fake. OK, you are in the proof mode again..OK what are your specific requirements?What elements do you hope to see? Dennis

RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

I just posted on my Free Energy Truth Facebook page.  We have over 19,000 members, so should get a vote or two ;-) Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up From: Ruby Date: Wed, March 06, 2013 9:28

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

I just think that Dennis could get a lot of attention if the media caught on to a vehicle running around a track for a day, then a week, then a month . . . That little Bunny has been a great ad for batteries. It has survived for . . . how many years? It is now a icon. Go, Dennis!

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

Jones Beene wrote: > > I agree 100% Terry….the best way -by far- to convince the majority of > skeptics is a self-running machine. > > ** ** > > Maybe the only way. There are tons of calorimetry data already at the watt > and subwatt level. We need some drama at this stage. A self-runner s

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

But this is not a demonstrated device. It is a drawing of what Miley would like to see work. I could provide a drawing also, but where would I get the fuel? The fuel is the problem. Once a fuel that makes a lot of heat for long periods is available, the engineering design will follow. This

RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

I agree 100% Terry..the best way -by far- to convince the majority of skeptics is a self-running machine. Maybe the only way. There are tons of calorimetry data already at the watt and subwatt level. We need some drama at this stage. A self-runner should be high on the list. Speaking of

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

OK, it's another chance to speak on April 4 - at MIT! On 3/5/13 3:28 PM, Ruby wrote: I will post this up on Cold Fusion Now. But can anyone say what we are voting for? is it for a chance to speak? funding? The website does not explain much... I would like to give some more info than j

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

DJ Cravens wrote: > so are you saying that small self running devices are not useful as > "proof"? > It is a little complicated. The one that Arata made was too small. It did not impress me or the others who saw it. We could even imagine local temperature differences in the room producing that

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

DJ Cravens wrote: > > I personally don’t think that it all needs to be about proof or > commercialization. > Well, it does if you want funding. Not if you are doing it for fun. > After 24 years and many papers, I don’t think that “proof” is needed any > longer. Proof is already there for those

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

I will post this up on Cold Fusion Now. But can anyone say what we are voting for? is it for a chance to speak? funding? The website does not explain much... I would like to give some more info than just please vote. Ruby On 3/5/13 11:04 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: http://futureenergy.ul

RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

so are you saying that small self running devices are not useful as "proof"? This seems at odds with what you told me. DennisDate: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:13:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@e

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

I wrote: > Assuming Rossi's gadgets are real, just having one the size of a shoebox > producing a kilowatt or so for week would be all the proof you need. Make > it a hot water heater. The simplest method of HVAC calorimetry would be > fine. > I guess what I am saying here is that a calorimeter

RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

Jed and I have an agreement to disagree. I personally don’t think that it all needs to be about proof or commercialization. After 24 years and many papers, I don’t think that “proof” is needed any longer. Proof is already there for those that wish to read the literature. Practical method

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

Terry Blanton wrote: > > Wait a minute. Aren't you the guy that keeps saying the best proof is a > self running machine? Closed loop? > Oh yeah. Sure, if you can pull that off on a reasonably large scale. But a small toy-like device would not be convincing because a battery can be hidden in it

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > If you can prove the cold fusion device produces heat, you best do that by > the simplest means, which is calorimetry. > > Wait a minute. Aren't you the guy that keeps saying the best proof is a self running machine? Closed loop?

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

Edmund Storms wrote: I'm complaining because any use of LENR will have to take much more into > account than this very simplified designed describes. What value does this > design have? It is a obvious engineering solution to removing heat from a > source. It does not solve the basic problem tha

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

I'm complaining because any use of LENR will have to take much more into account than this very simplified designed describes. What value does this design have? It is a obvious engineering solution to removing heat from a source. It does not solve the basic problem that prevents LENR from

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Lot's of energy in that vacuum. Nature bottled it up for good reason. On Tuesday, March 5, 2013, Axil Axil wrote: > > To understand why polaritons cause LENR when they are confined within a > nano-cavity, a look at some newly developed quantum mechanical models of > dipole-photon interactions is

RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for 10 days.. hurry up

Actually this is not a bad idea if we accept that Arata's results of several years ago were accurate and scalable. Arata found nanopowder that gave modest heat from pressure alone. No external heat was used, only pressure. He used grams of specialty material. If the basic Arata powder was t

RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

From: Edmund Storms * [snip] motor that drives a fan. No provision is made for control of temperature . Wait a minute. Why doesn't the airflow from the fan control the temperature by removing heat from the fins which are themselves heated by the TEG ? Are you complaining that h

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

Forgive me, but this idea has no value. The design proposes to use a slug of powder to create a high temperature that is converted to electric power that drives a motor that drives a fan. No provision is made for control of temperature, stimulation of the LENR reaction, or efficient transfe

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

If he does not have the technology, he can license it, the value added is the CHP configuration. The worst risk is that it works. 2013/3/5 James Bowery > Why? > > I have highly competent, multigenerational engineering contacts at the > University of Illinois at C/U. Can they get a demonstratio

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To understand why polaritons cause LENR when they are confined within a nano-cavity, a look at some newly developed quantum mechanical models of dipole-photon interactions is helpful. Basically, when a photon and the electron part of a dipole are confined in a small cavity, they couple strongly to

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YES! YES! YES! A rose by any other name regardless if you get there via Casimir geometry or plasmonics but enough energy to disassociate H2 at a discount less than you reap when it immediately reassociates. That is the common thread for MAHG, Mills , Rossi and many of the others all the way back

Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up

Why? I have highly competent, multigenerational engineering contacts at the University of Illinois at C/U. Can they get a demonstration without being drawn into a waste of time? On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > http://futureenergy.ultralightstartups.com/campaign/detail/8

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

Jim, Thanks for the AIRBURST reference. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Sandia Labs has done extensive modeling of the dynamics of meteor > explosions and even has some pretty numeric visualizations for your viewing > joy: > > https://share.sandia.gov/news/resources/relea

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

Sandia Labs has done extensive modeling of the dynamics of meteor explosions and even has some pretty numeric visualizations for your viewing joy: https://share.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2007/asteroid.html On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > I understand kinetic ene

RE: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence

The Russian meteor was larger previously thought but how much larger? NASA has revised its estimates on the size and power of the meteor at least 3 times. The size is thought to have been about 55 feet (17 m) diameter- with the power of the blast estimate of about 500 kilotons, 30-60 kilotons highe

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

I understand kinetic energy, but a kinetic energy weapon is designed to slam into something, the meteor did not hit anything As far as I can tell the largest piece made a round hole in the lake. The damage was done from a shockwave from a blast. This was not a kinetic energy weapon, it exploded.

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

ChemE, I can't recommend arithmetic highly enough to you: 1ton*.5*(3mph)^2?ton_explosive ([1 * tonm] * 0.5) * ([3 * mph]^2) ? ton_explosive = 194988.5 ton_explosive http://www.testardi.com/rich/calchemy2/ On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:18 AM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > But something ex

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

But something exploded with the force of 30 Hiroshima bombs, I don't believe a sonic boom can do that On Tuesday, March 5, 2013, James Bowery wrote: > Yes you missed something. You missed this part of my post: > > the motive of concocting such a coincidence would be to telegraph a message > to

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

Yes you missed something. You missed this part of my post: the motive of concocting such a coincidence would be to telegraph a message to intelligence agencies that "You will notice we sent the asteroid's little brother in a controlled shallow-angle entry. Think what we could have done? Notice,

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

Are you saying the meteor itself was a kinetic energy weapon? Because it did not hit anything. It exploded. Am I missing something? A *kinetic energy penetrator* (also known as a *KE weapon*) is a type of ammunition which, like a bullet

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > At this point I'm not really interested in confirmation. I have all the >> confirmation I need to summarily reject the "sheer coincidence" explanation >> with just the two events. >> > > It seems to me you have to hav

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

James Bowery wrote: At this point I'm not really interested in confirmation. I have all the confirmation I need to summarily reject the "sheer coincidence" explanation with just the two events. It seems to me you have to have a plausible mechanism to confirm that something is not a coincide

Re: [Vo]:13 things that do not make sense - space - 19 March 2005 - New Scientist

Mark Gibbs wrote: Bugger. Missed that. Good article though. Worth revisiting. So is this one: Daviss, B., /Reasonable Doubt/, in /New Scientist/. 2003. p. 36. This is about Szpak, Pam Boss, and Mel Miles. Among other things it describes how they demoted Mel from being a Distinguished Fellow

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

I agree. Also hard for me to understand how Tunguska, a 1000 times larger atmospheric explosion than recent could be made from a rock they can't find. That is 30,000 Hiroshima bombs Danger Will Robinson, Danger On Tuesday, March 5, 2013, James Bowery wrote: > At this point I'm not really inter

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor coincidence odds

At this point I'm not really interested in confirmation. I have all the confirmation I need to summarily reject the "sheer coincidence" explanation with just the two events. I'm interested in anything that would tend to disconfirm -- say evidence that atmospheric entry events of this magnitude ar

Re: [Vo]:Nanotubes generate huge electric currents from osmotic flow

I think this is plausible, I have read about nano filters being able to filter water faster than normal friction would allow - something about the tube geometry interacting with the hydrogen bond angle such that the water molecules are able to transport faster..and by tube geometry I am referrin

[Vo]:OT :13 things that do not make sense - space - 19 March 2005 - New Scientist

Hi, On 5-3-2013 14:21, Alain Sepeda wrote: I understand why old apes are so careful an afraid the devil gets back in its box, again. youg apes, or de-cryogenizated apes like me, should be careful. This brings back memories about the water hose in the tale of why the caged young apes in the Z

Re: [Vo]:Feeding Stewart

http://darkmattersalot.com/2013/03/05/follow-the-magnetic-lines-and-there-you-will-find-matter-of-another-kind/ Last picture is the best On Monday, March 4, 2013, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Should be interesting, I think the place is crawling with dark matter and > we have just been misinterpreting

Re: [Vo]:13 things that do not make sense - space - 19 March 2005 - New Scientist

Anyway that is interesting to look back in the mirror. I've found such test balloon articles from mainstream sources, after 2009 SPAWAR revival, 2005 (something happened in that period... Seen Tsinghua replication of NASA GRC, a few other papers... Dunno what raised such hope). I understand why o

Re: [Vo]:OT: Wealth and Inequality in U.S.

More of the same: http://www.silverdoctors.com/obama-begins-push-to-confiscate-iras-401ks/ If they do this, they will need the 2700 light tanks.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Wealth and Inequality in U.S.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Craig wrote: > The solution is to stop taking money from people against their will, > using threats of violence. The idea that we can improve society if only > we can threaten enough people, and take enough money from them, is > preposterous. With the purchase of

Re: [Vo]:13 things that do not make sense - space - 19 March 2005 - New Scientist

The key give away is that the Pioneer Anomaly has been solved (to most everyone's satisfaction): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_anomaly

Re: [Vo]:OT: Wealth and Inequality in U.S.

On 03/04/2013 02:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > See also: > > "Buffett says he's still paying lower tax rate than his secretary" > > http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/04/news/economy/buffett-secretary-taxes/ > > This is the root of the problem. > > - Jed > The Left keeps passing taxes which only apply to

Re: [Vo]:Nanotubes generate huge electric currents from osmotic flow

Interesting. In some ways this is similar to cold fusion research. What FUD could one hurl at it ? - It has not been replicated. - I will only believe this when there are economically viable energy generator. - They have no theory to explain the observation. (somebody kindly check the nature pape