Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-24 Thread Axil Axil
Also see http://arxiv.org/pdf/1309.2261v1.pdf Optical analogue of spontaneous symmetry breaking induced by tachyon condensation in amplifying plasmonic arrays We study analytically and numerically an optical analogue of tachyon condensation in amplifying plasmonic arrays. Optical propagation is

RE: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-24 Thread Jones Beene
You may have hit on an important point, Stephen. The hydrogen nucleus (any nucleus) contains antimatter/matter pairs, according to the standard model. If we take this literally – then the disintegration event could start simply with finding an irradiation window where these pairs are forced

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-24 Thread Axil Axil
Mesons come from tachyion condensation inside a SPP black hole. The SPP holds energy of 1,000,000 GeV give or take. EMF captured by the SPP is reformatted into a quark based subatomic based discharge: Mesons. A tachyon condensate is broken chiral symmetry of the magnetic force. See

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-24 Thread Stephen Cooke
Yup it's certainly astonishing if true. If a Nucleon is disintegrating this way, I wonder how it still can meet conservation rules. In order to form pions it implies quark anti quark pairs with combinations of up and down quarks are formed from a nucleon. In effect the equivalent quarks for a

RE: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: Stephen Cooke * That nucleons may actually disintegrate is nothing short of astonishing! Is this what they are actually saying? Did they really observe such huge amounts of energy? Yes precisely. This is why it will be more controversial than cold fusion until replicated. Many

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
se. >> >> Which ever the case its astonishing amount of energy to release in one >> reaction almost up there with matter antimatter annihilation. >> >> >> -- >> From: jone...@pacbell.net >> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >>

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: Does anyone else find these just too incredible to believe? > Very much so. I should spend some time looking at the raw data. Holmlid may have something interesting. His interpretation may have sufficiently

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Why does it take so long for the Holmlid effect to manifest? When you have to pump energy into a population of black holes that stores huge amounts of energy, it take time and a lot of EMF power to do this. But once these solitons are well formed and their power storage threshold is reached, they

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
During a typical replication run of the Rossi effect, the pressure of the hydrogen gas goes down over a relatively short timeframe. This might mean that hydrogen Rydberg matter(HRM) has formed in major part because gas is transformed into a solid. But the reaction does not take off immediately.

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jones, please allow me to offer this to my readers on EGO OUT, citing you. Thanks! Peter On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and > optimistic that Holmlid is onto something

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Peter Gluck
thank you, it is fine, few things happen these days, at leats so we know. Peter On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > OK > > > > *From:* Peter Gluck > > > > > > Dear Jones, > > please allow me to offer this to my readers on EGO OUT, citing you. Thanks! > >

RE: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
OK From: Peter Gluck Dear Jones, please allow me to offer this to my readers on EGO OUT, citing you. Thanks! Peter

RE: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Stephen Cooke
antimatter annihilation. From: jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:16:42 -0700 Subject: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI Colloquium at SRI Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and optimistic that Holmlid is onto something important

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Frank Znidarsic
ap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:15 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI During a typical replication run of the Rossi effect, the pressure of the hydrogen gas goes down over a relatively short timeframe. This might mean that hydrogen Rydber

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
rtex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:15 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI During a typical replication run of the Rossi effect, the pressure of the hydrogen gas goes down over a relatively short timeframe. This might mean that hydrogen Rydberg matter(HRM) has formed i

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
can do the job without extra help. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:15 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI > > During a typical repl

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
My attitude is to wait and see proof. I have serious doubts that the evidence will survive proper scrutiny. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 10:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Collo

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Bob Higgins
...@pacbell.net > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:16:42 -0700 > Subject: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI > > Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and > optimistic that Holmlid is onto something important. Alan Goldwater also &g

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
gt; > -- > From: jone...@pacbell.net > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:16:42 -0700 > Subject: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI > > > Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and > optimistic that Holmlid i

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
theory is not proven to be required for LENR. > > No one has ever captured a small black hole and lived to tell about it! > :-) > > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri,

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:02:02 -0400: Hi Axil, [snip] >I got through to Holmlid but Holmlid does not believe in black hole LENR >causation. I am now faced with the bleak prospect of learning black hole >physics, string theory, tachyon physics and general relativity.

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Done that On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:55 PM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:02:02 -0400: > Hi Axil, > [snip] > >I got through to Holmlid but Holmlid does not believe in black hole LENR > >causation. I am now faced with the bleak prospect of

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
theory is not proven to be required for LENR. No one has ever captured a small black hole and lived to tell about it! :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 4:47 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Collo

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
sage- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 5:00 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI > > The rotation of polaritons in a vortex produces a ANALOG black hole. Any > wave structure in a vo

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 5:00 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI >> >> The rotation of polaritons in a vortex produces a ANALOG black hole. Any >> wave structure in a

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread ChemE Stewart
ave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');>> >>>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>>

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
renced in that video >>>> produces hawking radiation. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:09 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I believe you are referring to a simulation of a black hole. >&g

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
I believe you are referring to a simulation of a black hole. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI The rotation of polaritons in a vor

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 4:39 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI > > SPP's are one thing, small black holes another. Why is there any reason > to believe that a black hole is required

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
n Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:09 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I believe you are referring to a simulation of a black hole. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:31:28 -0400: Hi, It occurs to me that lasers in plasmas have previously been used as bench top particle accelerators. I wonder if that also applies in Holmlid's experiments? (See e.g.

[Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-22 Thread Jones Beene
Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and optimistic that Holmlid is onto something important. Alan Goldwater also presented his open source work on the basic glow reactor of Rossi/Parkhomov. At first glance, there would appear to be no connection between the two …

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding: ** weeks to accumulate **. Could this long preparation time be the reason for fuel preprocessing as seen in the Lugano fuel sample? On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and >