Re: Betmoose is taking over where Intrade left off
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LENR-Invest Fund invested in Lenuco, the startup of George Miley
12 hours ago
http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.p ... rge-Miley/
http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/439-LENR-Invest-Fund-invested-in-Lenuco-the-startup-of-George-Miley/
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LENR-Invest, the LENR investment fund
An interesting exchange I had on the CYPW Cycone Power message boards that
seems appropriate for this thread.
http://finance.yahoo.com/mb/forumview/?v=mbn=6ed54729-7ab6-30d3-94f3-a20d6f37996d
- Reply to hellokevin and CYPW pumping
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you view the decision to not build a higher sea wall?
Unfortunate. But understandable. The previous tsunami of this magnitude
occurred in 869 AD. There were records of it,
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
If it can be commercialized, and it
doesn't cause cancer within a 2 km radius or beckon forth giant sea
monsters,
Hah! Release the Kraken!
http://elmisa.deviantart.com/art/Kraken-v2-424365880
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you view the decision to not build a higher sea wall?
Unfortunate. But understandable. The previous tsunami of this magnitude
occurred in 869 AD. There were records of it, and even man-markers of the
high water mark. But I think experts assumed the
the position of Nassim Nicholas Taleb
is that history is written (not rewritten) by the losers, the academics,
because they own the books of history.
This is why in most official history the role of theory is very overstated,
that the initial discoverers who observed anomalies without the least
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
The difference between a visionary and a crackpot is that the
visionary turns out to be right...
Given, otherwise, he would simply be another crackpot.
One basic of Taleb philosophy is that knowing what will be good or bad,
innovation or crackpots, is often not possible.
Another is that if you have skin in the game, will pay your faults, you
will instinctively better use the information you have.
this is one basic idea to prefer entrepreneurs
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
One basic of Taleb philosophy is that knowing what will be good or bad,
innovation or crackpots, is often not possible.
I was not impressed by Taleb's book The Black Swan. I disagreed with most
of the examples of things that he claimed were not
Whenever you see some idiot standing on a bully pulpit in media, government
and/or academia and saying Who could have foreseen? You can bet someone
did foresee it and not just because a broken clock is right twice a day.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
One point where you probably agree is that many blackswan were in fact
ignored voluntarily, like cold fusion is.
From the point of view of mainstream many things were unpredictable, yet
some like Roubini predicted them in detail.*
I din not read the blackswan, but antifragile.
and this author is
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Whenever you see some idiot standing on a bully pulpit in media, government
and/or academia and saying Who could have foreseen? You can bet someone
did foresee it and not just because a broken clock is right twice a day.
Yes, indeed.
The Three Mile
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Whenever you see some idiot standing on a bully pulpit in media,
government and/or academia and saying Who could have foreseen? You can
bet someone did foresee it and not just
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
be sure all the people will consider cold fusion as a black swan event,
while it is predictable in principle since 1990, and more or less planned
since 2010.
I think the spread of cold fusion will be a black swan
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
It's my understanding that people in high demand in the media get paid for
their appearances. And they go on lecture tours, where the lecture fees
paid to them can run into 6 figures per lecture. That's how famous you
could become.
That sounds like
Those are great examples. But your writing is so superior that I shouldn't
be reading it on the web for free. It should have been in your book.
The counterexamples would include the guys who built videogames into a
huge, legitimate industry that drove CPU clock speeds; the Wright brothers
A.I.
Kevin sez:
... The difference between a visionary and a crackpot is that the visionary
turns out to be right...
History is always revised by the victor.
All good points, Kevin.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
I strongly recommend the book The Innovator's Dilemma. I discussed in my
book.
- Jed
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
I want their money, not a mass media circus they might trigger.
***Jed, I like to think you are probably one of the few that will
financially benefit from such a mass media circus.
How?!? Tell me how I might make a buck from this.
I have often said I
It's my understanding that people in high demand in the media get paid for
their appearances. And they go on lecture tours, where the lecture fees
paid to them can run into 6 figures per lecture. That's how famous you
could become. You could also close off Lenr-canr.org to all but paying
Jed sez:
I have often said I wish I had the movie rights to cold fusion,
but alas I do not.
I assume you are being a little snarky here. In which case, who the hell does?
In the meantime, what's stopping you from writing a personal account, one that
is strategically sprinkled with
Uh, yeah... what he said.
He's just so much more eloquent than I am. Mats Lewan wrote his book. I
never heard of Mats before Rossi came on the scene. I heard of Jed well
before that.
Write that book, Jed. Before the media frenzy. Because after the media
shark feeding festival starts, you
I tried a minor alteration of this report and got this error message:
An error has been detected. You have reached your quota limit. Please try
again later.
Basically, I'm not interested in metrics that aren't freely available on
the web.
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
Eric, take a look at this:
http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=lenr%2C%20andrea%20rossi%2C%20e-catcmpt=q
If we decide the report is fully credible and those graphs make historical
highs, I think that's a good time to short.
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
If we decide Exactly how is that supposed to play out in your mind?
And note that you overlook (so far) entirely the mechanics how-to's of
shorting oil, Exxon, Solar, or anything else. It has been posted before,
on your own thread... that you have abandoned.
Ok sure, not really we, but rather vortex. There's a group of folks of
vortex that I feel are fairly credible / not gullible. They reacted very
smartly to defkalion, so I'll be looking to their reaction to this report
carefully.
They have a track record of being correct which is what bayesian
You've been trying to milk Vortex members since you first arrived.
Otherwise, you would have explained how to short long ago. Not only did
you shy away from your original 10:1 odds that I jumped at, but you haven't
done anything to further vortician interests since you've been aboard.
Otherwise,
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like I'll need to revise my estimate downwards, YET AGAIN, that
Blaze will pull it out. Down to 7.88%.
Nuh-uh. It is 7.64%. You forgot to take into account the Coriolis effect on
this year's election cycle.
- Jed
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like I'll need to revise my estimate downwards, YET AGAIN, that
Blaze will pull it out. Down to 7.88%.
Nuh-uh. It is 7.64%. You forgot to take into account the
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Nuh-uh. It is 7.64%. You forgot to take into account the Coriolis effect
on
this year's election cycle.
I think you rounded up when you should have rounded down. I get 7.63%.
;-)
You must be in Australia.
- Jed
Are you here to make a buck on fellow vorticians?
Yes, but I'd like to think everyone here can share in the wealth if they
were paying attention. Certainly they deserve it.
Some people though, I guesss, for whatever bizarre reasons I'll never
understand - profoundly believe they don't deserve
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
If we decide the report is fully credible and those graphs make historical
highs, I think that's a good time to short.
I'm less confident on getting the timing right for a breakout development
than you. Even if
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
Some people though, I guesss, for whatever bizarre reasons I'll never
understand - profoundly believe they don't deserve it.
Goodness gracious! Who do you have in mind? Tell them to send me their
share of the moola.
When they gave Martin
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm less confident on getting the timing right for a breakout development
than you. Even if we saw a spike of interest comparable to the one shown
for the first Elforsk test, I very much doubt there will be more publicity
following upon it than
You are so right Jed. (not that it means anything from me)
But remember the chain:
Rossi - Tom Darden (Cherokee/IH) - Bill McDonough (
Cherokee/McDonough Challenge)
-Larry Page, Richard Branson, Elon Musk, Jimmy Wales etc
see:
Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com wrote:
But remember the chain:
Rossi - Tom Darden (Cherokee/IH) - Bill McDonough ( Cherokee/McDonough
Challenge)
-Larry Page, Richard Branson, Elon Musk, Jimmy Wales etc
Yup. That is who I had in mind. So far there is nothing in the mass media.
I
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
If we decide the report is fully credible and those graphs make historical
highs, I think that's a good time to short.
I'm less
Here's a possible portfolio so far:
FSLR Put Options (2 years): 60%
XOM Put Options (2 years): 20%
CPST: 10%
CYPW: 10%
Entry will occur on a combination of google trends and when these equities
make coordinated movements that aren't influenced by other factors such as
general market conditions.
Are you here to make a buck on fellow vorticians?
Yes
***Then my criticism of you is justified.
I want their money, not a mass media circus they might trigger.
***Jed, I like to think you are probably one of the few that will
financially benefit from such a mass media circus.
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com
Interesting portfolio. There's a couple of hitches in yer giddyup.
FSLR Put Options (2 years): 60%
XOM Put Options (2 years): 20%
***I dunno how to do put options, and if the breakout comes in 2 years + 1
day, you lost everything without the benefit of what you were actually
betting on.
CPST:
I'm going to remove CPST from the portfolio. They are in bed with the oil
gas industry. I think they will piss off their customers if they jump on
CF.
FSLR Put Options (2 years): 50%
XOM Put Options (2 years): 20%
CYPW: 20%
I agree we need to find more companies that make thermocouples and
CPST: 10%
***Reasonably healthy penny stock that should be reasonably healthy in 2
years + 1 day.
CPST is listed on the nasdaq with a 496.52M market cap. They are not a
penny stock.
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting portfolio. There's a
You're right, even better. They're trading at about $1.50/share.
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
CPST: 10%
***Reasonably healthy penny stock that should be reasonably healthy in 2
years + 1 day.
CPST is listed on the nasdaq with a
I don't think CPST will be pissing off their customers by jumping on CF
when it breaks out. It will be their customers who will be pissing off the
oil gas industry.
When hard drive manufacturers started selling to PC vendors, they didn't
stop selling to minicomputer vendors. They just stopped
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
CYPW: 10%
***Unhealthy penny stock due to development money starvation. In the past
it has seen a 100x spike based upon conventional news. Dr. Yeong Kim
consults with them. If this black swan event does not happen
Interesting point. I was not aware of that aspect of their development.
Are they trying to be so oil-independent that they refuse to use it as a
lubricant? That would be stupid.
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Kevin
I'm going to use this subject thread for ideas I have for my eCat Porfolio.
Basically investment opportunities which will profit if the report comes
out to be a full throated vindication of Rossi.
HydroFusion - interesting, but very very weird. You'd think he'd ask for
money AFTER the report
I went for CYPW, Cyclone Power. Dr. Kim consults for them. They're an
unhealthy penny stock so it's real cheap with a high upside potential.
Today's volume was 5Million shares, about triple the usual.
Perhaps Capstone Turbine would be a better
choice:
CPST
On the plus side, they have product
So of all the things to focus on in that post, Blaze chooses to pick gnat
shit out of pepper. Looks like I'll need to revise my estimate downwards,
YET AGAIN, that Blaze will pull it out. Down to 7.88%.
Does Blaze want to further LENR or its advocates? Only his hairdresser
knows for sure.
On
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
Start shorting any of the alt energy plays.
The challenge with short selling is when to start? Immediately? A few
weeks or months after news of cold fusion is starting to spread? (Note
that rumors already appear
Yup. Blaze ignored that issue as well on his own thread. I imagine he'll
ignore it on this thread as well.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg93568.html
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Blaze
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
(Note that rumors already appear to be circulating, e.g., in connection
with the X Prize.) A year or two after?
***What rumors are those? Is this the same X prize popularity contest that
I submitted was exactly the
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
wrote:
***What rumors are those? Is this the same X prize popularity contest that
I submitted was exactly the same as my FQXI essay about the LENR incentive
prize?
I had in mind this quote from a link you shared [1] two
I probably inferred too much by thinking that there are rumors about cold
fusion circulating among a wider audience,
***I would hope there's a wider audience, such as among the decision makers
at the X prize committee like Peter Diamandis. But I doubt it. There's a
lack of true scientific
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