Re: MAHG update

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Sparber
JLN's W Filament2.5E-4 meterdia x0.100 meterlong Area = (pi)R^2 x L = 4.9E-9 meter^2 Resistance at 27 K = 0.122 ohms Resistance at 500 K = 0.203 ohms Resistance at 1,000 K = 0.508 ohms Resistance at 2,000 K = 1.13 ohms Temp K w/m^2 Ohm-Meters Amp/Meter^2 % H Atoms 27.00 -- - -0.60E-7 -

Re: MAHG update (Correction)

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Sparber
Oops. Couldn't figure why the radiated power was 3 milliwatts at 2500 K . It should be about 53 watts. Frederick - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: 7/9/05 8:56:12 AM Subject: Re: MAHG update JLN's W Filament2.5E-4 meterdia x0.100

Re: MAHG update

2005-07-09 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's trickier than you would think because that analog ammeter and shunt still has to pass 166 A with minimal voltage drop Well it is not necessary to cover the whole range of baterry capability when the testing amp range for the

Re: MAHG update

2005-07-09 Thread jonfli
Jones, Jon, After reading my last post I can see that my point is not entirely clear. IMO, Naudin's voltage measurents are taken directly at the filament connections on the MAHG tube assembly thus neglecting any voltage drops thru the connecting leads to the supply source.

Re: MAHG update

2005-07-09 Thread Jones Beene
tex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:55 AM Subject: Re: MAHG update JLN's W Filament2.5E-4 meterdia x0.100 meterlong Area = (pi)R^2 x L = 4.9E-9 meter^2 Resistance at 27 K = 0.122 ohms Resistance at 500 K = 0.203 ohms Resistance at 1,000 K = 0.508 ohms

Re: MAHG update

2005-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
This test does not prove that LENR is not occurring. LENR does not produce detectable radiation outside of the cell. The only radiation of any significance has only been detected within the cell. In addition, such a counter would not detect radiation from tritium nor neutron emission.

Re: MAHG update

2005-07-08 Thread Jones Beene
Ed, Your are correct and I was too hasty in saying that LENR had been eliminated as a factor. I'm having a low batting average today it seems. This test does not prove that LENR is not occurring. LENR does not produce detectable radiation outside of the cell. The only radiation of any

Re: MAHG update

2005-07-08 Thread jonfli
FWIW, another reality check for the input power consumed by the MAHG is to first calculate the energy in Joules per pulse and multiply by the rep rate. IE, the input energy is 166 * 12 * (1/50) * .05 = 1.992J per pulse. Therefore, the input power = 1.992 * 50 = 99.6 watts. With the equipment JLN

Re: MAHG update

2005-07-08 Thread Jones Beene
Jon, FWIW, another reality check for the input power consumed by the MAHG is to first calculate the energy in Joules per pulse and multiply by the rep rate. IE, the input energy is 166 * 12 * (1/50) * .05 = 1.992J per pulse. Therefore, the input power = 1.992 * 50 = 99.6 watts. With the

RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-14 Thread Merlyn
Nope, except for the fact that they experience force in opposite directions because of opposite charge. Merlyn --- Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Merlyn Well, technically any electron passing through a magnetic field is accelerated, whether the field is static or not.

RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Then why can one not cohere ZPE with a sufficient electric field? From: Merlyn Nope, except for the fact that they experience force in opposite directions because of opposite charge. Merlyn --- Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Merlyn Well, technically any

RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-13 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Merlyn Well, technically any electron passing through a magnetic field is accelerated, whether the field is static or not. Do electrons and positrons behave differently in static magnetic *or* electric fields?

RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-12 Thread Merlyn
Well, technically any electron passing through a magnetic field is accelerated, whether the field is static or not. A dynamic magnetic field is required to accelerate a static electron, but if the electron is already moving, then a static field will induce a force on the electron and thus an

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-11 Thread Christopher Arnold
Jones, I am not against you, but people would rather listen to Hal -thenthey should really take a close look at him, his background and "what" he has said Vs what he now says. If Hal hasunkind words about mydevice, why don't you ask him if it is from personal experience and get him to publicly

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-10 Thread Christopher Arnold
Is anyone here seriously interested in a Breakthrough Energy sourceand does anyone else here realize how important Chernetski's work was? http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/chernetsky.htm Video link... http://www.nuenergy.org/video/chernetski.rm

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-10 Thread Jones Beene
--- Christopher Arnold wrote: Is anyone here seriously interested in a Breakthrough Energy source and does anyone else here realize how important Chernetski's work was? We all realize how important it could have been IF it were true. Mark and I recieved the follwoing note from Hal a couple

RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-10 Thread Zell, Chris
PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski --- Christopher Arnold wrote: Is anyone here seriously interested in a Breakthrough Energy source and does anyone else here realize how important Chernetski's work was? We all realize how

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-10 Thread Christopher Arnold
Jones, Wonderful,now please ask Hal to watch the video of himself disputing what he just told you and Mark. Maybe Hal forgot about his private viewing, maybe he was told to forget about it, or maybe he just wantsEVERYONE ELSEto forget about his video disclosure of such an Earth-shattering

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-10 Thread Christopher Arnold
Jones, You sound paranoid talking about the Kings software and all that spy stuff, but we "are" talking about PuthoffwithCIA, NSA etc. etc. connections- maybe he works for the same king. My business with Puthoff is not open to discussion, but what Hal has provided are two completely different

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-10 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Christopher Arnold You sound paranoid talking about the Kings software and all that spy stuff, but we are talking about Puthoff with CIA, NSA etc. etc. connections - maybe he works for the same king. Jonesee, you *are* aware of HP's involvement with Grillflame, n'est-ce pas?

Re: MAHG update hypothesis

2005-06-05 Thread Jean de Lagarde
Jones Beene wrote What would be the next step in the evolution towards the goal of self-power? 1)Instead fo H2, try a gas mixture consisting of 3 Helium atoms to every two Hydrogen atoms. Jones Rather than invoking ZPE, Dirac or hydrinos, I Suspect that the

Re: MAHG update hypothesis

2005-06-05 Thread Christopher Arnold
Correction, From Hals own lips on video - said he "did" witness Chernetski's Plasma Discharge device and was extremely excited by what he appeared to see it doing. He then invited Chernetski to Austin, however the death of Chernetski prevented his participation. Considering that Plasma is the

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-05 Thread Christopher Arnold
in Moscow about the time of Chernitski's demise.I've copied this to Hal who would know for sure.MarkFrom: Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.comTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: MAHG update hypothesisDate: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT)--- Jean "Rather th

RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-05 Thread Zell, Chris
experiment. Perhaps due to his arrival in Moscow about the time of Chernitski's demise.I've copied this to Hal who would know for sure.MarkFrom: Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.comTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: MAHG update hypothesisDate: Sun, 5 Ju

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Christopher Arnold wrote: This information kindly provided by Bruce A. Perreault I understand Mr. Perreault is on the verge of an announcement about an atomic battery. Do you know him?

RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

2005-06-05 Thread Christopher Arnold
factor in his output? From: Christopher Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:00 PMTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski Mark, Rather than wait for Hal to respond, Please watch the video of Hal talking about

Re: MAHG update hypothesis

2005-06-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Jones Beene wrote: When a proton becomes temporarily bare, almost immediately it will attract an electron, and if none is available from 3-space, then one will be forthcoming form the epo field, which will express a local-charge-deficit such that any real electron cross over and will fill