High loading would be .88 which is 267K == -6.15C = 21F which is not room
temperature.
Which raises the question: Is there a critical loading threshold for Ni?
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:18 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Since exceeding the Debye temperature of nickel appears to be
Their natural behavior is for me the best evidence.
Nelson during his own test concluded the same.
of course it is not enough for nay-believers who will only suicide when
there is no shadow, and even...
for hard skeptic, they should be very much interest, but keep some romm for
doubt, because of
We should keep calling it cold fusion, and make a barbed point of it, in honor
of Fleischmann, who admittedly hated the term. Why? To stick it to the people
who hounded him and smirched his reputation. Cold fusion yesterday, today, and
forever! Fly the flag!
MEANWHILE - I am ultra-intrigued by
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 02:18:43 -0700 (PDT)
Danny Ross Lunsford antimatte...@yahoo.com wrote:
We should keep calling it cold fusion, and make a barbed point of it, in
honor of Fleischmann, who admittedly hated the term. Why? To stick it to the
people who hounded him and smirched his reputation.
Harry
Didn't Arrata have heat with PD powder at room temp? Maybe anomalous heat is a
function of transition thru Debye temp and those experiments extracting heat
provide repeated opportunities to make this transition at a higher rate.
Fran
Dear Blaze
For a successful third party test it is necessary to have
a good, smart, well instructed 3rd party.Too much depends on the
professional quality/skills of the 3rd party
I think the publicly available product.
Peter
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:49 AM, blaze spinnaker
blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyways, I do agree however that this was a demo and not a public 3rd
party test signed off by employed academics with careers at stake. For
all that Rossi annoys the heck out of me, he did at least orchestrate that.
Yes! Well said. It was a
On 07/24/2013 06:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I think that a demonstration of this nature is valuable. I am pleased
they did it. But it is no substitute for the kind of test Levi et al.
did of Rossi's device. I mean Levi et al. used their own instruments;
they went back three times and improved
On 07/25/2013 09:00 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
(I still have not seen the Defkalion test so I cannot judge how
convincing it was, or comment on that. A person should look very
carefully at these things before judging.)
- Jed
The entire video set is online here:
Provocative paper - if I could understand the LENR implications, this would
be a good time to try to fit them into current events, especially if there
exists this surprisingly strong magnetic component - as DGT wants us to
believe. Let's hope they quantify it soon.
In fact, the purpose of this
We Also learned importance of exceeding Debye temp but regarding lack of
dependence on isotopes I think this reflects just how marginal the resistive
heating method is compared to using spark plugs. Rossi and Mills will likely
adopt this method of stimulus if they haven't already done so.
Fran
On 07/25/2013 09:43 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
We Also learned importance of exceeding Debye temp but regarding lack
of dependence on isotopes I think this reflects just how marginal the
resistive heating method is compared to using spark plugs. Rossi and
Mills will likely adopt this method
Is it possible that the heat measured in these experiments was released in hot
spots where the Debye temp was exceeded? That would seem like an obvious way
to overcome the requirement where the main mass remains at an overall low temp.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Frank Roarty
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a better test than the one that Levi and company performed. This
is a complete and total, independent, replication of Rossi's method;
even if they don't plan to write it up.
I did not see this test, but I gather the instruments were supplied by
On 2013-07-25 15:46, Craig wrote:
Didn't Rossi use this method in the Oct 6, 2011 demo? He called it an
'RF Generator, which he brought in when it appeared the heating wasn't
going to start the reaction as fast as he had hoped.
It was a probe (I don't remember exactly for what), not a RF
Just watched this fascinating series of videos by Renzo Mondaini, kindly
dubbed to English from the Italian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEceEHgaXoU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymFcb9U1Ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymFcb9U1Ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47MslfkdYQ
I think 28 years is too slow...we all know the various reasons why. I like
the spirit of DGT's team staying up 24 hours making it happen, that is the
real human spirit at work.
Stewart
On Thursday, July 25, 2013, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
I think it is important to distinguish between a test and a demo. This was the
latter. When you demo software, you are not obligated to allow some coders from
Microsoft to pore over the code.
In a way, the glitch that forced them to bring down the reactor was a good
thing. Frauds, like
On 07/25/2013 09:55 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a better test than the one that Levi and company performed. This
is a complete and total, independent, replication of Rossi's method;
even if they don't plan
I rather think in such case Rossi used a piezoresonator.
Rossi likely uses piezoelectric catalyzer(s) as described in recent
published patent application of Pekka Soininen.
Op donderdag 25 juli 2013 schreef Akira Shirakawa (shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com)
het volgende:
On 2013-07-25 15:46, Craig
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
No, what I mean is: Defkalion IS the group that replicated Rossi's work,
from the ground up.
Ah, I see.
That is unclear. Rossi says they had no knowledge of his work so they could
not have replicated. If that is true, they found an independent method of
On 2013-07-25 16:28, Teslaalset wrote:
I rather think in such case Rossi used a piezoresonator.
Rossi likely uses piezoelectric catalyzer(s) as described in recent
published patent application of Pekka Soininen.
I had to dig this for you from where I remember reading about it:
Bingo. Thanks for digging this up.
Op donderdag 25 juli 2013 schreef Akira Shirakawa (shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com)
het volgende:
On 2013-07-25 16:28, Teslaalset wrote:
I rather think in such case Rossi used a piezoresonator.
Rossi likely uses piezoelectric catalyzer(s) as described in recent
On 07/25/2013 10:47 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I can't judge whether this is a replication because I do not know how
either Rossi or Defkalion does what they do. These are trade secrets.
You're right, we can't know; but we do know that Rossi and Defkalion
were working together two years ago. We
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
The fact that they were able to
reproduce the reaction, and do it better than Rossi could do it two
years ago, tells us that they discovered a material that works, along
with Rossi, and Mills, and perhaps Miley and others. It is a replication
in a
Of course it should include Pons since it is quite likely that without
Pons, Fleischmann would never have performed the critical experiment that
resulted in the laboratory aparatus melt-down of 1984.
Having said that, I have to reiterate though I agree with Danny's valuation
of the phrase Cold
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I am glad it was recorded. I hope it remains on file.
Brian of SQUID posted the juicy bits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHEtnTO3h6s
More thoughts on faith in LENR.
It seems to me that LENR can be considered more like a religion going
forward.
Let us draw another analogy between religious faith and faith in LENR.
Consider Pascal’s Wager.
Pascal's Wager is an argument in apologetic philosophy which was devised by
the
Space transportation + some LENR discussions
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/dr-dennis-bushnell-tuesday-7-23-13/
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
No, what I mean is: Defkalion IS the group that replicated Rossi's work,
from the ground up.
Ah, I see.
That is unclear. Rossi says they had no knowledge of his work so they
On 07/25/2013 02:46 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I am glad it was recorded. I hope it remains on file.
Brian of SQUID posted the juicy bits:
Feedback: This link does not work for me. I just get a blank screen
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:13 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Space transportation + some LENR discussions
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/dr-dennis-bushnell-tuesday-7-23-13/
Axil,
They are now estimating the Fukishima cleanup @ 58 Billion, which their
children will pay for and I am sure that estimate will go up and does not
factor the cancer risk. Earthquakes, Tsunamis, Hurricanes and Solar Flares
will continue and it is a matter of time before another Fukishima or
Axil,
It should work. If you are directly clicking on the audio link -
http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2055-BWB-2013-07-23.mp3
- be aware that it loads slowly, and also that it may mot be
autoloading, but instead stored in your -
C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Downloads
If
Thanks. It took a long time to load...
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:19 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Axil,
It should work. If you are directly clicking on the audio link -
http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2055-BWB-2013-07-23.mp3
- be aware that it loads slowly, and also that it
Good stuff. Starts around 48 minutes. I wonder what the
definitive experiment is.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Space transportation + some LENR discussions
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/dr-dennis-bushnell-tuesday-7-23-13/
The notion of bet is interesting, but the philosophical questis misleading.
I think you can more compare with the subprime bet :
If you are a mainstream scientist
- if LENR is false and you say it is a fraud strongly enough to silence
dissenters, you keep your budget, your hope of Nobel, your
If you give Jim Bowery all your money, you will experience eternal bliss
with 77,777, virgins.
If you don't give Jim Bowery all your money, you will experience eternal
torment at the hands of establishment physicists.
Now, invoke Pascal's wager substituting dis/belief in the above two
Fleischmann as a hero of science, in mainstream articles...
I see many copies of that article celebrating a mainstream discovery of
martin Fleischmann in the 70s, the SERS...
http://www.alphagalileo.org/ViewItem.aspx?CultureCode=enItemId=133268
As if the Soviet of Science was preparing a
Ad so the science of Nanoplasmonics began.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:
Fleischmann as a hero of science, in mainstream articles...
I see many copies of that article celebrating a mainstream discovery of
martin Fleischmann in the 70s, the
On the gaming aspect :
http://matslew.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/comments-on-defkalion-reactor-demo-in-milan/#comment-814
Mats Lewan
Mary,
If you don’t make mistakes you most often do nothing at all.
If there’s any possibility that this is not a scam, it’s worth letting it go on.
The damage if
If everything carries magnetic charge as well as electric charge, and the two
are always in the same ratio, then you could not detect it. The magnetic part
can be duality rotated away so that it just looks like ordinary electric
charge. But it is possible that in dense matter conditions, a
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
We Also learned importance of exceeding Debye temp but regarding lack of
dependence on isotopes I think this reflects just how marginal the
resistive heating method is compared to using spark plugs. Rossi and
Kitamura et al. have been working on gas loaded Pd and Ni for some time,
originally in a replication of Arata's Zr+Pd alloy.
Kitamura's experiment looks much better to me than it did last year. They
finally made a precision flowmeter. It holds a much larger sample of
powder. It is about time they
Exceeding?
So its not critical to be _at_ a narrow temperature range?
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
We Also learned importance of exceeding Debye temp but regarding lack of
dependence on isotopes I think this reflects just how marginal
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that LENR can be considered more like a religion going
forward.
Douglas Morrison would agree with you.
We will be facing disease, pestilence, death, and massive property loss as
a species in the triple digit
With LENR we can economically and cleanly remove CO2 from the atmosphere
the same way nature sequesters it in CaCO3 and such, not a problem
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
It
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