Re: [Vo]:electron screening of fusion precursors within a metal substrate

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
The harmonic oscillation is the dipole. The temperature is what gets the dipoles to vibrate in unison. The dipoles become entangled in the micro particles of the proper size. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Does anyone (maybe Robin?) know

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: LENR does not use micro and nanoparticles and LENR+ does. Okay, so Arata was doing LENR+ 20 years ago. And Kitamura is doing it now. So why doesn't it work as well as Rossi's cells do? That is what Rossi first taught us, he told us to use small particles

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: If he has told us all this great stuff, why has no one been able to independently replicate him? Specifically, why has Defkalion gone off an done it with what seems to be different method, which may or not be as good? Why haven't Levi and the others at U. Bologna replicated? People in

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, Rossi has told us that not only is the process written down in detail but a few others now know it. Also, he claims his partner has constructed a working E-Cat without any involvement by him. So, like everything else with the E-Cat it all depends on whether he is telling the truth. I

[Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread a.ashfield
You know, the two spheres, one running hotter than the other. He said come back Thursday to see what's inside. I have not seen anything written about this. Did he open it up?

[Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Higgins
Recently, Peter published in his blog his reasons for hoping that the NAE aren’t cracks. After considering it, I believe he misses the uniqueness, durability, and beauty of the cracks that are being considered. To the uniqueness point… Consider that a crack is different than just two

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: Rossi has told us that not only is the process written down in detail but a few others now know it. Yes. But he has not published the detailed description. Axil said, Piece by piece, clue by clue it was all revealed in little bits and pieces. It has

RE: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Sunil Shah
This is one of the worst (stupidest) answers I've read in a long time. /Sunil Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 23:10:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway? From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Wow, Jed Rothwell has awakened from a quarter century of slumber. The Sleeper

Re: [Vo]:electron screening of fusion precursors within a metal substrate

2013-08-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The dipoles become entangled in the micro particles of the proper size. To get the general level of electron energy to increase in a metal, I imagine you can't allow it to drain off from a localized region into a larger body

RE: [Vo]:LENR N.A.E new non-episode

2013-08-23 Thread Sunil Shah
And when I had a go at it, it was one of the projects you could build with a few components on a piece of cardboard-kits. It consisted of a coil w ferrite core, trimcap, headphones and a _Germanium_Diode_ (the magical ingredient ; ) At least it worked! Regards, Sunil From:

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: He told us to use a catalyst that was activated through heating in the hot hydrogen. That is common knowledge. Any textbook on catalysis says this. Mizuno, Biberian and many others told me this years ago. And most importantly, he gave us faith that the

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks Bob. Finally someone understands and is using my theory. Ed On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: Recently, Peter published in his blog his reasons for hoping that the NAE aren’t cracks. After considering it, I believe he misses the uniqueness, durability, and beauty of the

Re: [Vo]:LENR N.A.E new non-episode

2013-08-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: And when I had a go at it, it was one of the projects you could build with a few components on a piece of cardboard-kits. It consisted of a coil w ferrite core, trimcap, headphones and a _Germanium_Diode_ (the

Re: [Vo]:Does this go to p. 31?

2013-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Okay, I reworded this screen: http://lenr-canr.org/DetailOnly.htm Search for Included in this collection to see an example. Here is an example copied to this message: 319. Biberian, J.P., *Biological Transmutations: Historical Perspective.* J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci., 2012. *7*. First

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Bob, Thank you for the idea of cracks' aesthetics! I know it well, I think you have remarked the second Motto by Leonard Cohen based on this idea.. It happens that very early in my professional career I learned about the beauty and variety of cracks -when working at the Civil Engineering

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Dear Bob, Thank you for the idea of cracks' aesthetics! I know it well, I think you have remarked the second Motto by Leonard Cohen based on this idea.. It happens that very early in my professional career I learned about the beauty and

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Ed. I would ask you to not think in my place, I really don't like it.It is typical for dictatures and I had enough from it starting with :Der Fuhrer denkt fur uns alle and ending with Ceausescu's omniscience. I have the right to think independently. Citing you: *you are assuming that D+Pd

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Peter, I'm simply telling you what your comments mean to me. I'm not thinking in your place. If I have gotten the wrong understanding from what you have written, than you are free to tell me and to correct your writings so that other people do not also get the wrong impression, which is

RE: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Jones Beene
LOL. Welcome to an open and almost un-moderated forum, where bogosity is a daily purgative and self-appointed experts of all varieties can step-up on the soap box and remove all doubts about their incompetence. Fortunately, it doesn't get much worse than this. From: Sunil Shah

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Peter Gluck
It is possible that I have a great contribution to the misunderstndings. If you indeed agree with the non-uniformity of yje internal part of the cracks: *I do not think a crack is equally active along its length.* * * perhaps this can be included in your model. Success! Peter On Fri, Aug 23,

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
Just a few days ago, I explain to you how nanowire on the surface of the micro-particles produces millions of volts from dipoles driven by a heated environment. Does Arata and Kitamura coat there particles with nanowire? Then you ask “So why doesn't it work as well as Rossi's cells do?” I

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
Do not confuse the situation with its description. It is not the description of the situation that is stupid; it is the underling situation that the description attempts to portray. If you disagree with this description, then you are part of the situation. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:27

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
Not for the first time, with amazing generosity, DGT has provided us with a picture of a 5 micron nanowire coated micro-particle in their ICCF-18 presentation that they have originally engineered base on suggested information derived from Rossi’s revelations. There must be a million nanowires

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Higgins
The carbony Ni particles used by DGT, as was shown in Kim's presentation, have NO nanowires at all. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Not for the first time, with amazing generosity, DGT has provided us with a picture of a 5 micron nanowire coated

RE: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread Sunil Shah
Hehe, yeah. (And thanks for your support.) I've been reading for a couple of years, and things I see the least of are: - oops, I'm sorry, I probably misunderstood you - sure, I'll try to explain it to the best of my understanding, (and to fit your level) - it's quite ok if you didn't do

RE: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread DJ Cravens
yes, I opened it on Thurs. There will be an article in Infinite Energy in the next month or two. I think they also plan on having the article on there web site. It has been written, edited and scheduled for publication. Yes the sample was hotter than the control. But the really important

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
Are you looking at slide 3, fabrication of fuels and reaction cells? the box of interest starts with the following... Modified Ni Crystal powders The 5 micron particle is pictured on that page. Can you see it now... On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Bob Higgins

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Higgins
Yes. What is shown is a carbonyl Ni particle. It has no nanowires. It does have points, but no nanowires. Nanowires would not be visible at the scale of that micrograph. On Aug 23, 2013 2:29 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Are you looking at slide 3, fabrication of fuels and reaction

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
DGT has never mentioned the use of carbonyl. There powder is pure nickel. The surface of the particles are processed with a proprietary process to resurface the particle with a Rutile structure. Please show me a reference to the use of carbonyl in this process. In fact, the use of carbonyl is

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Higgins
The micrograph is of carbonyl Ni. Look it up. For example, Hunter Chemical AH50. Also, Vale T255. It is the same as what is shown in Kim's slides. Carbonyl is the process - the particles are pure Ni. On Aug 23, 2013 3:25 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: DGT has never mentioned the

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Teslaalset
Carbonyl Nickel is Nickel produced from Nickel Carbonyl. Producing Nickel this way, the Nickel forms 'pointy' or 'spiky' grains. Regarding FeO3 used as a 'wedge' to open and keep open nano cracks in Nickel: What about the fact that Nickel is expanding as soon as it forms NickelHydride. Would that

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
Thanks, I stand corrected. I see what you mean. They must remove the carbon with oxygen and then the oxygen with hydrogen starting from the commercial powder.. The presence of carbon will distort (increase) the curie temperature of the powder. Therefore, Carbon must be removed. On Fri, Aug 23,

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
Re: TABLE II XRF ANALYSIS OF NAE5 (BEFORE A TEST RUN) TEST ID: 07/18/12 #25 From the composition of the powder from the ICCF-17 DGT paper, no carbon is present. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, I stand corrected. I see what you mean. They must

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
I might be wrong. The are a large amount of light elements present. You may be totally correct.: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Re: TABLE II XRF ANALYSIS OF NAE5 (BEFORE A TEST RUN) TEST ID: 07/18/12 #25 From the composition of the powder from the

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Teslaalset
Proces to produce nickel from Nickel Carbonyl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mond_process On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I might be wrong. The are a large amount of light elements present. You may be totally correct.: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:48

Re: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread James Bowery
You had written: I have some stainless steel ones that have been slightly warm (0.5 C) since last Nov. Realize the spheres are just one of many things I am working on. You need to operate with excitation and higher temps for more power. The spheres are just a stepping stone on a much longer path

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Teslaalset
Nickel Hydride High pressure phases[edit sourcehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nickel_hydrideaction=editsection=2 | editbetahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_hydride?veaction=editvesection=2 ] A true crystallographically distinct phase of nickel hydride can be produced with high

Re: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Dennis, can you tell us what difference existed between the two balls? What was in the active ball compared to the control? Why is one hotter than the other one? Where did you have the balls constructed? Ed On Aug 23, 2013, at 1:59 PM, James Bowery wrote: You had written: I have some

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Higgins
I was really surprised to hear at ICCF that it takes something like 4000 bar to load a Ni lattice with neutral hydrons. I may have remembered the actual number wrong, but it was a lot. I suppose that if Ni were loaded using smaller hydron ions, they could create a lot of internal stress. I am

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Bob, the entire particle of Ni is not loaded, which is impossible. Only the treated surface is loaded where the cracks are formed. The surface is not pure not Ni and the crystal structure shows. Ed On Aug 23, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: I was really surprised to hear at ICCF that

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
Be it as it may, Dgt should remove as many impurities from the surface treatment of the nickel particles as they can to increase the electrical conductivity of the processed surface of the particles. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I might be wrong. The are

RE: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread DJ Cravens
yes, but the demo is over now and the sphere has been cut open. I do not plan on presueing this approach. It was just a one shot because I make a promise to a friend. D2 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:59:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week From:

RE: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread DJ Cravens
you will need to wait and read the report. Those questions are answered in the up coming IE. Or you could just read what I have already written here. D2 CC: stor...@ix.netcom.com From: stor...@ix.netcom.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI

Re: [Vo]:What the heck is LENR+, anyway?

2013-08-23 Thread H Veeder
Apple's version is iLENR Harry On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: If he has told us all this great stuff, why has no one been able to independently replicate him? Specifically, why has Defkalion gone off an done it with what seems to be

Re: [Vo]:electron screening of fusion precursors within a metal substrate

2013-08-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:41:02 -0700: Hi, [snip] The new outline leaves at least three important unknowns to be sorted out (a) How do the p's and d's acquire sufficient energy to fuse, even with screening? They don't need energy, if they can be brought close

Re: [Vo]:electron screening of fusion precursors within a metal substrate

2013-08-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:33:50 -0700: Hi, [snip] Does anyone (maybe Robin?) know enough about quantum mechanics to clarify whether it would be possible for the ~5.5 MeV in the case of p+d - 3He + Q to be transferred to several electrons, rather than a single one?

RE: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: Edmund Storms Bob, the entire particle of Ni is not loaded, which is impossible. Only the treated surface is loaded where the cracks are formed. The surface is not pure not Ni and the crystal structure shows. This is exactly why a special nickel alloy, and not pure nickel, could

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread James Bowery
Official output quotas in place since 2007 are readily exceeded by 40% – 50% each yearhttp://www.mining.com/2011/08/30/on-chinas-rare-earth-black-market-prices-are-falling/. Whileprices have been moderating http://www.lynascorp.com/page.asp?category_id=1page_id=25since the record levels of Q3

Re: [Vo]:electron screening of fusion precursors within a metal substrate

2013-08-23 Thread Eric Walker
I'm glad you seem to have signed off on the basic soundness of the angry bees, even if only as one possibility among many. Do you know if this kicking-of-the-beehive approach has been described somewhere (apart from the context of the Polywell)? It seems a lot like Peter Hagelstein's theory,

RE: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: James Bowery If the LaNi5 E-Cat theory were true, one would expect there to be hoardingof the metal by E-Cat insiders since it will be limiting on world energy supply and those holding physical La would profit enormously once the dependency is announced. Well LaNi5 is short of being

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread James Bowery
Doing the arithmetic, Lanthanum isn't that limiting. Current world Lanthanum reserves are around 6 million tonnes. Let's say you can get 1kW/cm^3 out of LaNi5 at a density of 8.2g/cm^3 and La mass fraction of 31% (139/(139+5*62)): .31*8.2g/cm^3;1kW/cm^3;6Mtonne?W ([{0.31 * (8.2 * gramm)} /

Re: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread Ruby
On 8/23/13 6:52 AM, a.ashfield wrote: You know, the two spheres, one running hotter than the other. He said come back Thursday to see what's inside. I have not seen anything written about this. Did he open it up? http://coldfusionnow.org/cravens-demo-a-puzzle-for-onlookers/ -- Ruby Carat

Re: [Vo]:electron screening of fusion precursors within a metal substrate

2013-08-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:59:19 -0700: Hi, [snip] So there would be both electric branches present -- discharging into the electron cloud and occasionally pushing off of lattice nuclei. No doubt this would be a function of proximity of the short-lived intermediate

Re: [Vo]:electron screening of fusion precursors within a metal substrate

2013-08-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:59 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Note that fast ions will also lose energy by ionizing atoms, creating more angry bees, so it doesn't really matter which path is followed. The amount of energy used to create bees is pretty much the same, either way. It's also