Re: [Vo]:[OT] URLs

2009-03-08 Thread OrionWorks
Robin sez: Don't these people realize that the whole point of underlining URLs was to make them *ugly*, i.e. to make them stick out like a sore thumb? Presumably not. Like any wildly successful application, the Internet will continue to be modified, more specifically reinterpreted, for

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry wrote: I consider most everyone on this earth to be severely deluded, what's your point? Seriously, that's impossible. Our species would not survive. That's a little like saying everyone is above average. It is possible that many people are deluded (or at least wrong) about

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
I didn't say fatally deluded though. But I do believe that a huge amount of what most people believe is wrong. Death/Extinction is not the natural consequence of delusion either. Although I would state that the vast majority of people today hasten their deaths by 2 delusions. Firstly trusting

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:27:36 -0400: Hi, [snip] This would be similar to the fact that many people are obese because they they can get far more sugary food than was available to our ancestors. [snip] I think the primary reason for the obesity epidemic is trans

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: This would be similar to the fact that many people are obese because they they can get far more sugary food than was available to our ancestors.

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: Asteroid 2009 DD45 had a 48,000 mile close call March 2, 2009. What has not explicitly been said AFAIK is whether or not that was within a window that can establish a resonant return, i.e. a direct hit on a return fly by. Perhaps it

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to grok's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:10:31 -0700: Hi, [snip] This is the same logic as blaming guns for killing people. Look further up the logic chain. [snip] I gave the direct reason, and the implications are obvious to anyone with a brain. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:13:34 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] With so much utter trash in The Mighty Hambone stimulus bill, why is there not some cash for asteroid detection and defense? We know this is a threat, we have clear proof of it. Much more so than 'other'

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: This is the same logic as blaming guns for killing people. Look further up the logic chain. I gave the direct reason, and the implications are

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
grok, the reason is that either out of malice or disregard there are businesses (people) who are happy to hurt people, make them sick and kill them for a profit. I can't decide which is their main objective the money or the destruction but both occurs. Cancer is one example of something that is

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: grok, the reason is that either out of malice or disregard there are businesses (people) who are happy to hurt people, make them sick and kill them for a

[Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
Organic and Small Farmers and Ranchers; Natural Food Products Farmers Under Attack... The Obama administration is pushing farm controls through Congress as fast as possible and has coordinated the bills so there will be no debate and the committee meetings

[Vo]:Can You Envision $1T?

2009-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
In $100 bills: http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html Terry

Re: [Vo]:Can You Envision $1T?

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
WTF, this is the 3rd email I have got this morning about $17, all totally unrelated. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: In $100 bills: http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html Terry

Re: [Vo]:Can You Envision $1T?

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
damn, Ok blame my eyesight, 1T not 17 ;) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:29 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: WTF, this is the 3rd email I have got this morning about $17, all totally unrelated. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: In $100 bills:

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread leaking pen
This is becuase the organic old school sprays that most organic farms use are actually MORE toxic. Most modern bug and fungus sprays are designed to break down quickly and NOT poison groundwater. Where as the old organics One of the common fungicides is copper acetate or sulfate. Which

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
Um, I don't know for sure but I don't think that the certified organic produce used the sprays you are talking about, certainly I know that it has a far lower level of toxicity in the produce and beter levels of vitamins, phytonutrients and minerals. If certified organic in the US is so poorly

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread Kyle Mcallister
[snip] I thought it *was* detected by someone paid to do exactly that? Not paid very much it seems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siding_Spring_Survey And someone else tracked it after the discovery by way of funding provided by The Planetary Society. This is not the scale of skywatch

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
The only way we can realistically do anything is if we have technologies or friends that we don't generally admit to, I hold out no hope for a mission as in the movie Armageddon or lasers or... Though with a bit of foresight get Podkletnov of the job and he may be able to redirect it. On Mon,

RE: [Vo]:Energy News of the Weird: Denmark tilting at windmills

2009-03-08 Thread Jeff Fink
Large base load nuclear and coal fired plants are not unresponsive. They can reduce load from 100% to 50% in a matter of minutes. The water volume is not an issue. Utilities are about producing power as cheaply as possible. It is expensive to run these large units at reduced power for several

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: The only way we can realistically do anything is if we have technologies or friends that we don't generally admit to, I hold out no hope for a mission as in the movie Armageddon or lasers or... We can do it with nuclear weapons, either a direct

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.comwrote: --- John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: The only way we can realistically do anything is if we have technologies or friends that we don't generally admit to, I hold out no hope for a mission as in the

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread leaking pen
Copper sulfate and other copper salts are pretty much the ONLY fungicides used by organic farming. The sprays used today by conventional farming are NOT the poisonous , groundwater polluting, wildlife killing soups they were 20 years ago. We figured out that certain things were bad, and then

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
You have some quite unbalanced points in there but I don't have the will or time to argue. What I can say is that the contamination issues you mention have much misinfo around them. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:54 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Copper sulfate and other copper salts are

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: The physics of it are straight forward and manageable with our level of technology however the level of readiness would be fatal. It would require better

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread leaking pen
In other words you have a gut instinct that I'm wrong, I mean, organic HAS to be better, right? Just look at the name. But you have no clue in what way I'm wrong, and you'd rather not do the research and shatter your world view. Sigh. Just like all the anti alt sci types. This is a SCIENCE

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Implications, eh? Like the implications of how why this stuff is getting from wherever it comes from -- and down everybody's pie-hole, like fatted

[Vo]:EEStor inventor

2009-03-08 Thread thomas malloy
I just talked to a F E researcher. The inventor of EEStor's ultracapacitor has gone missing. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
No, I know that it is better, and know know that much of what you say is flawed but I don't see the point in arguing it with you. Organic food has higher levels of vitamins and phytonutrients, is lacks the chemical soup that is used by conventionally grown produce and various other advantages. I