Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:40 AM 9/4/2009, Steven Krivit wrote: Steve and Vortex, About a year ago, I think it was, the Wikipedia "cold fusion" haters blacklisted New Energy Times because I added some links to - heaven forbid - the NET site which I thought would be useful. You know, the Internet is good for Wiki,

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:57 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote: I just checked Wikipedia for the first time in months. Their latest shenanigan is to delete Dieter Britz's site. They made up some strange sounding reason. It is kind of funny because Britz is on their side. He is a "skeptic" who does not believe cold fusion is

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:33 PM 9/3/2009, Michel Jullian wrote: Indeed, thanks for the most interesting summary, Abd! So you have now logically decided to see by yourself whether CF is real or not? Well, I'm pretty well convinced, from the published evidence, that it's real. However, that conclusion isn't actual

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Steven Krivit
At 07:07 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote: At 02:26 PM 9/3/2009, Terry Blanton wrote: Thanks for expounding on that, Abd. I'm curious, are you typing or using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak? Typing. I bought Dragonspeak when I had a carpal tunnel release, but never used it. brevity? naw!

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Steven Krivit
Steve and Vortex, About a year ago, I think it was, the Wikipedia "cold fusion" haters blacklisted New Energy Times because I added some links to - heaven forbid - the NET site which I thought would be useful. You know, the Internet is good for Wiki, it's good for NET too - we're both vehicles

Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!)

2009-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Nice video! Text plus multiple scenes. You must have a video editor of some kind. I'm surprised the thing held together that well, considering the imbalance from the U bolts. It certainly does demonstrate the motor works in that configuration I like your motto! Best regards, Horace Hef

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:23 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: If I'm banned from Wikipeida, as may happen in short order, the biggest reason will be prolixity. No, the biggest reason will be the message you just posted here, plus the fact that you are part of this discussion group. Nah. Prol

Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!)

2009-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Kyle Mcallister Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009 10:52 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!) > --- On Thu, 9/3/09, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > > > > > Yes! > > > > I second that. > > > > You got it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch

Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!)

2009-09-03 Thread Michael Foster
I'm lovin' it! Nice work. M. --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Kyle Mcallister wrote: > From: Kyle Mcallister > Subject: Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!) > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 7:52 PM > --- On Thu, 9/3/09, OrionWorks - > Steven V Johnson > > > > > Yes! >

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:26 PM 9/3/2009, Terry Blanton wrote: Thanks for expounding on that, Abd. I'm curious, are you typing or using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak? Typing. I bought Dragonspeak when I had a carpal tunnel release, but never used it.

Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!)

2009-09-03 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- On Thu, 9/3/09, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > > > > Yes! > > I second that. > You got it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CQRSHkci8 GENTLEMEN! I give you... this THING! Yeah, it's a terrible, and probably quite boring video. And the hands holding the contraption belong to yours truly.

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I just checked Wikipedia for the first time in months. Their latest shenanigan is to delete Dieter Britz's site. They made up some strange sounding reason. It is kind of funny because Britz is on their side. He is a "skeptic" who does not believe cold fusion is real. Since we cannot do anything to

[Vo]:Steven Koonin and DOE

2009-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
from the Sept. 2009 issue of Physics Today: Physicist Steven Koonin takes on a new role as DOE’s ‘technical conscience’ http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_62/iss_9/26_1.shtml "PT: What about fusion?" "KOONIN: Speaking for myself, I’d like to see more focus and drive in our fusion

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/9/3, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson : > From Terry, > >> Thanks for expounding on that, Abd. I'm curious, are you typing or >> using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak? >> >> :-) > > I would like to add my complements to the chef as well. > > I found Abd's analysis to be both informative and educat

Re: [Vo]:Papers uploaded but having trouble downloading

2009-09-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: However, I am having trouble downloading them. The largest one, 26 MB, does not want to download. I have uploaded it 3 times. It is this file: . . . http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EPRIproceedingc.pdf There is something wrong with my Mozilla Firefox configuration. It is trying to ope

Re: [Vo]:Griggs still at it?

2009-09-03 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:20:41 -0700: Hi, What you are essentially describing is a positive feedback loop. However there may be more "mundane" causes of positive feedback. E.g. situations where ionizing radiation increases the fuel available to a fusion reaction, wh

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: If I'm banned from Wikipeida, as may happen in short order, the biggest reason will be prolixity. No, the biggest reason will be the message you just posted here, plus the fact that you are part of this discussion group. In response to this article: http://www.sl

Hydrolysis/Neutrons & NewAtomModel [Vo]:S-Gas/OU-Zen Device

2009-09-03 Thread Harbach Jak
~hydrolysis concept more complete & NEUTRON-as-Mega-GLUON model added~plus better edit in general sorry, I'm in a time-crunch here.~;-) FRAN bear with me: My Ulterior Agenda is a 'New Atom Model' to be seriously considered. Using a Hydrogen Atom new Model: Consider that the co

[Vo]:Papers uploaded but having trouble downloading

2009-09-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I uploaded some of the EPRI papers, as shown here: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm However, I am having trouble downloading them. The largest one, 26 MB, does not want to download. I have uploaded it 3 times. It is this file: EPRI. Proceedings: Fourth International Conference on Cold Fusion Vo

NewAtomModel [Vo]:S-Gas/OUZell &Griggs Multi-Cavitation Device

2009-09-03 Thread Harbach Jak
FRAN bear with me: My Ulterior Agenda is a 'New Atom Model' to be seriously considered. Using a Hydrogen Atom new Model: Consider that the configuration of the H-Atom building block of ALL ATOMS to be along the lines of a GYRO-SCOPE-kind've. For argument's sake I'll say that the P

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry, > Thanks for expounding on that, Abd.  I'm curious, are you typing or > using a voxrec s/w like Dragonspeak? > > :-) I would like to add my complements to the chef as well. I found Abd's analysis to be both informative and educational. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 11:20 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: >> >> Jed spoke of this on the list.  He has been falsely accused of >> printing articles without the author's permission. > > I'll give some detail on that. It's a little more complicated. Thanks for exp

RE: [Vo]:Swamp-Gass/OUZell &Griggs Multi-Cavitation Device

2009-09-03 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Jak, Fair enough, I'll settle for "the odd rapid Hydrogen-ization of the H2O molecule MAYBE PARTIALLY ACCURATE but the 'reason' for it would actually lead the Singularity Physics motif". I already admitted that I couldn't see any electrolyte that would form conductive plates out of the

Re: [Vo]:Revised EPRI documents coming

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:20 PM 9/2/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: I will upload a better version of the NSF/EPRI book as well as the TR- series. Thanks for all your work, Jed, and your tireless service for people interested in cold fusion. I don't know if this is said often enough, but it should be.

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:20 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: Jed spoke of this on the list. He has been falsely accused of printing articles without the author's permission. I'll give some detail on that. It's a little more complicated. The basic reason for blacklisting of the site was that it was "fringe advocacy," an

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >>From Terry: > >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/i-have-been-abducted-by-aliens-says-japans-first-lady-1780888.html >> > > Yukido Hatoyama sez: > > "While my body was asleep, I think my soul rode on a triangular-shaped > UFO and went to Venus

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-03 Thread albedo5
>>The rest of us can chose to dismiss such accounts and experiences as being ridiculous or as nothing more than harmless psychological aberrations... but I think we do so at our own loss.<< I agree with your words almost completely, but therein lies the rub. For me. I've investigated many accoun

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
If I'm banned from Wikipeida, as may happen in short order, the biggest reason will be prolixity. Warning: this is long. If it does not interest you, please don't read it, it will only irritate you. At 10:44 AM 9/3/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Following up on the recent cnn.com v

Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!)

2009-09-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>> Anybody want to see a video of this sorry-assed thing? >> >> --Kyle > > Yes! I second that. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:BB motor -- explanation (maybe not!)

2009-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
> Anybody want to see a video of this sorry-assed thing? > > --Kyle Yes! Harry  

vortex-l@eskimo.com

2009-09-03 Thread Harbach Jak
~CHILD's PLAY~&~bye-bye MAINSPRING~ NICK: It just occurred to me that a Multiple-water-tank-tower AS THE STORAGE DEVICE rather than using the 'spring-idea' at all might be a simple obvious solution to 'over-night' power storage. A Gyro-Centrific-Inertial(maybe generator also) device o

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/i-have-been-abducted-by-aliens-says-japans-first-lady-1780888.html > Yukido Hatoyama sez: "While my body was asleep, I think my soul rode on a triangular-shaped UFO and went to Venus," she explains in the tome she published last year. "

Re: [Vo]:cnn.com video reports on Wikipedia: "Wikipedia's credibility search"

2009-09-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:27 AM 9/3/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: There is an amusing cnn.com VIDEO entry listing several notable (and quite erroneous) Wikipedia entries, along with the organization's attempt to rectify the problem. Wikipedia plans to implement more stringent record keeping methodologie

Re: [Vo]:Griggs still at it?

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Terry Blanton > > Cavitation might have played a part in the Russian hydro plant accident: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Sayano-Shushenskaya_hydro_accident > > > > ...or else, something a bit more sinis

Jed, did you see this?: (Was [Vo]:Griggs still at it?)

2009-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Indeed! See also: http://www.rexresearch.com/griggs/griggs.htm Note the following item, about 1/3 of the way down the page: "Just what happens when the Hydrosonic pump is filled up with water and switched on is described by over-uni

RE: [Vo]:Griggs still at it?

2009-09-03 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Cavitation might have played a part in the Russian hydro plant accident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Sayano-Shushenskaya_hydro_accident ...or else, something a bit more sinister (and synergistic): http://www.bellona.no/bellona.org/english_

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Jed spoke of this on the list. He has been falsely accused of printing articles without the author's permission. Terry On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Following up on the recent cnn.com video clip concerning erroneous > entries I decided to revisit the COL

[Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/i-have-been-abducted-by-aliens-says-japans-first-lady-1780888.html T

[Vo]:Wikipedia's cold fusion entry, what's the status?

2009-09-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Following up on the recent cnn.com video clip concerning erroneous entries I decided to revisit the COLD FUSION entry. I was surprised to discover that at present there doesn't appear to be any disputing going on. But appearances can be deceiving. Have most CF proponents given up trying to make it

[Vo]:cnn.com video reports on Wikipedia: "Wikipedia's credibility search"

2009-09-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
There is an amusing cnn.com VIDEO entry listing several notable (and quite erroneous) Wikipedia entries, along with the organization's attempt to rectify the problem. Wikipedia plans to implement more stringent record keeping methodologies. Wiki hopes to better track authors making entries, making

Re: [Vo]:Griggs still at it?

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Unless the cavitation is causing some (irreversible) chemical or nuclear > reaction, it has no more business producing a COP>1.0 than just rubbing > two sticks together has. Remember Bubblegate? http://newenergytimes.com/v2/bubblegate/

vortex-l@eskimo.com

2009-09-03 Thread Nick Palmer
Hello Mike, Yes, it doesn't look like big springs are able to be used for storing much. I was hoping they could be wound up during high wind or hot sun times for overnight use. Michel sent me the following which about nails the idea but I wonder if they just mean a straight helical

[Vo]:Swamp-Gass/OUZell &Griggs Multi-Cavitation Device

2009-09-03 Thread Harbach Jak
RE~Griggs Over-Unity Mass/Multiple Cavitation device~vs~THE OLD LAWS~ Re: Roarty response: The knee-jerk prozaic(or closest to prozaic straining at it we can get) explanation starts to appear a bit "Swamp-Gassy" after a bit. Yes the odd rapid Hydrogen-ization of the H2O molecule MAYBE PA