Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:57 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Ed Storms said it was ok for me to post the following analysis he made: * * * * * * A careful examination of the attached graph reveals an interesting conclusion. The Pout (power out) and the Eout (Energy out) appear

[Vo]:Re: [H-Ni_Fusion] How Rossi's ecat really works. The mystery details revealed.

Gilbert Schmidt is a qualified engineer for making this proposal re the Rossi devices, which for months he hoped to confirm: Rich Murray 2011.10.11 So, I deemed it helpful to share it with Vortex-L ... On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Gilbert Schmidt wrote: > ** > > > > Many of you may have miss

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

Why doesn't Mills FINISH JUST ONE PRODUCT AND GET IT TO MARKET! He's like a little kid who gets 90% done with something and then gets bored with it and is off to some new and challenging puzzle... never completing what he starts. The only other explanation is that he's not able to get his technolo

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ed Storms wrote: A careful examination of the attached graph reveals an interesting conclusion. This refers to Heffner's graph 1: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf - Jed BTW, I finally figured out how to make the

[Vo]:check out this killer whale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXI7dOKHRDU&feature=youtube_gdata

Re: [Vo]:Wiki frozen

At 08:10 PM 10/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: The wiki has been frozen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer No mention of October is allowed (actually, there's a comment in a different section that, I think, went un-noticed. by the Reli

Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com

> > This link goes to Kleiner Perkins for some strange reason. Weird! It's not e-cat.com; it's ecat.com. Craig

Re: [Vo]:rcdc.it web tv video of Oct 6 Rossi test

> > Interesting! Is there any indication of what the real time was then? > Was that during heat after death? If it was more than an hour into it, > that video image proves there is anomalous heat. It proves that all by > itself, in the absence of thermocouple readings or any other ordinary > quan

Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com

it used to redirect into Exxon's page just few weeks ago. Which was likewise weird. —Jouni tiistai, 11. lokakuuta 2011 Jed Rothwell kirjoitti: > Daniel Rocha wrote: >> >> http://www.e-cat.com > > This link goes to Kleiner Perkins for some strange reason. Weird! > - Jed >

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

>From Jones Beene   >> . . . apparently this is the basis of Mills' >> latest-and-greatest claim to fame where the excess >> energy goes direct to electricity. >From Jed: > If true, that's the IDEAL source of energy. Nothing better. > That is the easiest form of energy to convert to other forms >

Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com

On 2011-10-11 02:45, Daniel Rocha wrote: http://www.ecat.com (corrected) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhvD4KuAEmo Some videos and interviews on the 6th October demo. The video has been professionally done and contains original footage and interviews. So this ecat.com domain must be somet

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > Ed Storms said it was ok for me to post the following analysis he made: Isn't PoutE a bit funny? T

Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Daniel Rocha wrote: >> >> http://www.e-cat.com > > This link goes to Kleiner Perkins for some strange reason. Weird! Did you stumble across AR's US investor? They would be the correct VC for this type of product. Truly bizarre! T

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Ed Storms wrote: > A careful examination of the attached graph reveals an interesting > conclusion. > This refers to Heffner's graph 1: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Ed Storms said it was ok for me to post the following analysis he made: * * * * * * A careful examination of the attached graph reveals an interesting conclusion. The Pout (power out) and the Eout (Energy out) appear to describe the net excess, not the total as everyone seems to assume.

Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com

On 2011-10-11 02:53, Jed Rothwell wrote: This link goes to Kleiner Perkins for some strange reason. Weird! This is the correct URL: http://ecat.com/ Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com

Daniel Rocha wrote: http://www.e-cat.com This link goes to Kleiner Perkins for some strange reason. Weird! - Jed

[Vo]:New video on ecat.com

http://www.e-cat.com The video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhvD4KuAEmo Some videos and interviews on the 6th October demo.

[Vo]:No Control

Control is relevant when we are uncertain what is the cause and what is the effect. This is often the case with medical research and Pd-D cold fusion experiments. Here however we only have two variables that we are measuring. We are measuring electricity in and all the rest is excess heat (lots of

Re: [Vo]:rcdc.it web tv video of Oct 6 Rossi test

At 04:51 PM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher wrote:   At 9:20 someone accidentally touches the eCat .. and jumps back. It hurt! Interesting! Is there any indication of what the real time was then? Was that during heat after death? If it was more than an hour int

[Vo]:Wiki frozen

The wiki has been frozen.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer  No mention of October is allowed (actually, there's a comment in a different section that, I think, went un-noticed. by the Reliable Source police.) Then  in discussion, we have : LYNE ATOMIC HYDROGEN FURNACE This inventio

Re: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

Jones Beene wrote: > . . . apparently this is the basis of Mills' > latest-and-greatest claim to fame where the excess energy goes direct to > electricity. > If true, that's the IDEAL source of energy. Nothing better. That is the easiest form of energy to convert to other forms you need, such a

Re: [Vo]:rcdc.it web tv video of Oct 6 Rossi test

I think that, that poor fellow touched the non insulated metal part in the heat exchanger. And it was in that part of the heat exchanger that is taking the input of primary loop, i.e. hot steam. —Jouni tiistai, 11. lokakuuta 2011 Jed Rothwell kirjoitti: > Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> >> At 9:2

Re: [Vo]:No Control

Horace Heffner wrote: May people have made this comment. Some, like Jed, directly to Rossi. And I have the scars to show for it. He is mad as hell at me for what I wrote to him today, which I also posted here. A thermal pulse method is also a useful check on calorimetry functions > during run

[Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&adja cent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110922&CC=WO&NR=206236A2&KC=A2 There is a lot to wade through here... and I have not found the spark of brilliance yet, but apparently this is the basis of Mills' latest-and-greatest

Re: [Vo]:rcdc.it web tv video of Oct 6 Rossi test

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > At 9:20 someone accidentally touches the eCat .. and jumps back. It hurt! > Interesting! Is there any indication of what the real time was then? Was that during heat after death? If it was more than an hour into it, that video image proves there is anomalous heat. It pr

[Vo]:What is insulting and why?

It is curious how superficial people are when it comes to using derogatory words. People get mad about using explicit insulting words (such as Krivit, with his silly censoring of his blog) but they consider formal ad hominem expression as ok. Like what Lawrence here show us the true art of insultin

Re: [Vo]:rcdc.it web tv video of Oct 6 Rossi test

At 03:54 PM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: In Italian. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-5cFOsisAo There are some folks weighing the secondary output  at 8:10 -- not Lewan, I think. At 9:20 someone accidentally touches the eCat .. and jumps back. It hurt! At 11:10 Rossi opens the eCat -- sa

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Robert Leguillon wrote: Let's now take this to its logical conclusion. > At a primary flow rate of .91 g/s, the evidence makes it look as though the > average power (including the power applied by the band heater) over the > entire span, could not have been over 2.5 kW. Anything higher would have

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

The Italian rcde.it video shows that the primary loop water came out of a large plastic garbage can parked next to the pump. It is a shame they did not weigh the garbage can before and after. That would have given the total amount pumped through. It may not all have been vaporized . . . That video

[Vo]:Considering errors in enthalpy calculations

I have not had time to read all the messages today, but I was thinking about the known error sources. 1) The heat exchanger efficiency cannot be no more than 90%. That is because, the surface area of E-Cat and hose to heat exchanger was in total about 1.3 m². We do not know the surface temperature

RE: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Joe: Is that the way to rebut someone who has only questioned some of your reasoning regarding the heat storage capacity of the E-Cat? Your rebuttal is to claim they know nothing about the E-Cat and dismiss their points with no facts or explanation! Then you go on continuing to claim that all your

[Vo]:rcdc.it web tv video of Oct 6 Rossi test

In Italian. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-5cFOsisAo Some segments of this, such as around 2:00, show people outside at the end of the 20 m cooling water outlet hose. I believe some of them are trying to measure the temperature. Lewan told me the hose was so long, temperature measurements

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Let's now take this to its logical conclusion. At a primary flow rate of .91 g/s, the evidence makes it look as though the average power (including the power applied by the band heater) over the entire span, could not have been over 2.5 kW. Anything higher would have resulted in higher E-Cat te

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

During Mat's walk through video I make it about 40+/-1 Hz, with same LMI P18 pump with 2ml max stroke (and back pressure of at least 1.3bar if making 124°C steam, pump is limited to 1.5bar) http://www.lmi-pumps.com/datasheets/Pseries-08-01.pdf, that would suggest at maximum 1.3g/s and probably less

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

At 12:58 PM 10/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: For what it's worth, here are crops of the thermistors, heat exchanger and manifold: http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_1_crop.jpg Diagram : http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_manifold_001_h1200.jpg I just heard back from my source ... NO, the t

Re: [Vo]:No Control

May people have made this comment. Some, like Jed, directly to Rossi. Use of experimental controls is such a basic science concept it is taught in grade school science. Still, Rossi rejects the approach. I've made similar statements about controls myself: http://www.mail-archive.com/vor

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

The double flow was recorded after they began trying to quench the reaction. "Increasing the flow rate" was specifically mentioned before that second measurement, and everyone previously lauded the pump for it's accuracy during previous demonstrations. Alan J Fletcher wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Alan J Fletcher wrote: The flowmeter and volume measurements are on the SECONDARY. The flow results for the secondary are fine .. as is its input temperature. He made TWO measurements on the PRIMARY flow ... one at the end of sustaining, and one after the hydrogen was purged and the peristalt

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 02:15 PM 10/10/2011, Robert Leguillon wrote: Look closer at this one: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2Pout.png   Let me give you a scenario.  There is some back pressure on the E-Cat, so boiling temperature rises as high as 124 degrees. Note: This is in the believer's favor.  If at

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 02:09 PM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher wrote: It's buried in Lewan's data -- but as he pointed out in his responses to Krivit, he DID measure the eCat output flow twice (presumably at the usual drain). He read it at the drain and also, during the video, fr

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Since you know nothing of the e-cat your remarks have been dismissed. Yes it was prooveable in the September e-cat that the effects were purely based on thermal inertia. I suspect the same here. Rothwwell has not been able to substantiate his position which seems to be a blind acceptance of CF b

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Look closer at this one: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2Pout.png Let me give you a scenario. There is some back pressure on the E-Cat, so boiling temperature rises as high as 124 degrees. Note: This is in the believer's favor. If atmospheric pressure is lower, then the boiling po

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > It's buried in Lewan's data -- but as he pointed out in his responses to > Krivit, he DID measure the eCat output flow twice (presumably at the usual > drain). > He read it at the drain and also, during the video, from the flowmeter. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Alan J Fletcher wrote: I said you will never get to the bottom of this, and it is not worth trying. You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely qualitative demonstration. Ah well. It's buried in Lewan's data -- but as he pointed out in his responses to Krivit, he DID measure

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

Rossi could give us the answer as to how much the secondary outlet thermocouple was biased in 1/2 hour with a jug of boiling water and a cold water supply. But his ego would never allow him to. On 10 October 2011 20:58, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > For what it's worth, here are crops of the thermis

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 12:16 PM 10/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 11:20 AM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: I said you will never get to the bottom of this, and it is not worth trying. You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely qualitative demonstration. Ah well. It's buried in Lewan's data -- but

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on the placement of the thermocouple and other issues.

Rossi sez: ... > A SNAKE HAS WRITTEN THAT INSEDE THE E-CAT THERE WAS DIESEL OIL TO BE > BURNT………JUST LOOK AT THE WEIGHTS: AT THE END OF THE OPERATION THE > E-CAT WEIGHTED SOME GRAM MORE THAT BEFORE THE OPERATION…. Diesel oil??? Good grief! Who wuz suggesting that? BTW, I luv reading Rossi's bro

RE: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

If someone "Couldn't care less", it means that they care so little that it's impossible for them to care any less than they do right now. If someone "Could care less", it means that they care enough that it's possible to care less. Irregardless, people will continue to use the phrase to the

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Terry sez: ... >> I'm sure you could care less. > > whisper:  ". . . not care less" > > Really? I wuz never good at grammar. Grammatically speaking I always thought it is better form to avoid cluttering up one's literary intent with the use of double negatives. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson

[Vo]:Another attempt to estimate based on likely heat before heat after death

H . . . I screwed up this analysis, I think. Let me try again. First, I refer to this graph: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304196_10150844451570375_818270374_20774905_1010742682_n.jpg I confused the issue by thinking about where the output line should be, given the likely re

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

For what it's worth, here are crops of the thermistors, heat exchanger and manifold: http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_1_crop.jpg http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_2_crop.jpg http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_3_crop.jpg http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111010_4_crop.jpg Di

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 11:20 AM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: I said you will never get to the bottom of this, and it is not worth trying. You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely qualitative demonstration. Ah well. Well, mainly qualitative. However, you can make a r

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

If that were the approach you would use graphite inductively heated to 3500 deg C in a graphite foil/foam insulated vacuum flask, add hydrogen to start convective heat transfer. Stores about 1.3kWh/kg and about 2.7kWh/liter, so would need about 10 liters for 80MJ of latest demo. Note I am sure th

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10 -- Only 1 eCat

Hi, On 10-10-2011 21:02, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Nor its religious (catholic, at least) use. Yeah, I know; it's a long time ago I had one of these. Anyway, a single eCat means . ... more room for mice And you know what they say about cat and mice: NL: "Als de kat van huis is danse

RE: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

>From one narcissist to another... Seems ol Joe thinks he's converted the lot of us... http://www.theeestory.com/users/1681/posts# "80kgs of metal can easily store over 40MJ. It's not on the level of a discussion. My arguments have been extremely convincing as I think you can tell by the rec

[Vo]:Rossi on the placement of the thermocouple and other issues.

David Roberson October 8th, 2011 at 10:52 PM Dear Mr. Rossi, Your LENR test on October 6, 2011 should be listed as a historical event. I wonder if I might ask you to clarify one issue that the skeptics continue to bring up which you can settle quickly. My personal opinion is that the location you

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Congratulations, Mr. Catania. > > Further posts from you will be routed to my block list. > > I'm sure you could care less. I guess the feeling is mutual. whisper: ". . . not care less" -the narcissist

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

At 11:20 AM 10/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: I said you will never get to the bottom of this, and it is not worth trying. You're probably right on that. So we're left with a purely qualitative demonstration. Ah well.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10 -- Only 1 eCat

Man on Bridges wrote: > It looks to me Rossi refers to the box as a wafer and not as what is common > in wafer production to silicon wafers. > I thought he meant that crinkly heat exchanger-like thing. - Jed

[Vo]:These problems could have been, and were, anticipated

In a private discussion, someone suggested that it can be difficult to anticipate objections. He said that even if a test convinces the experts at the time it is done, they may later come up with possible errors that did not occur to them at first. Naturally I agree there is some truth to that, but

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10 -- Only 1 eCat

At 11:33 AM 10/10/2011, Man on Bridges wrote: AR: 1 - only one reactor has-been inserted in the wafer It looks to me Rossi refers to the box as a wafer and not as what is common in wafer production to silicon wafers. Nor its religious (catholic, at least) use. Anyway, a single eCat means ...

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

What do my posts matter anyway? Yes please block me. - Original Message - From: "OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson" To: Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof Congratulations, Mr. Catania. Further po

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Congratulations, Mr. Catania. Further posts from you will be routed to my block list. I'm sure you could care less. I guess the feeling is mutual. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:Thermocouples work fine on pipes

Horace Heffner wrote: > Putting a metal thermocouple up against a metal surface sounds like a > prescription for variable but systematic error, depending on vibrations, > touching the wire, humidity, etc. The steel nut can short out at least some > some of the potential. This means requiring

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

No that was part of the decor in a restaurant in Taormina. Its nice to know that the only thing that counts here is spelling (and self-affected narcissists). - Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" To: Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

LOL. That's hypocritical. - Original Message - From: "Rich Murray" To: ; "Rich Murray" ; "Rich Murray" Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof Jed Rothwell is a serious, intelligent, dedicated, h

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Funny, you don't seem annoyed. All Jed is capable with regard to this matter is condescension. - Original Message - From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" To: Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof On 11-

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

LOL. That's hypocritical. - Original Message - From: "Rich Murray" To: ; "Rich Murray" ; "Rich Murray" Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof Jed Rothwell is a serious, intelligent, dedicated, h

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10 -- Only 1 eCat

Hi, On 10-10-2011 19:56, Alan J Fletcher wrote: 1. For the 6 Oct test, only one of the three modules in the E-Cat was active. Oct 6 for the test, only one of the three modules in the E-Cat was active. By what means were the other two made inoperative? By what means-Were the other two made inop

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

> > > > I think the people at Defkalion are sincerely respectful of Rossi, as am I. > He is a genius. He invented this device. He deserves barrels of money and a > dozen Nobel prizes for it. Unfortunately he is not very good at doing > demonstrations. > > - Jed > > I am not sure if that is an irony

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Looks to me as if Defkalion is trying it's best to remain diplomatic and respectful to the interests of the original parties while at the same time making it very clear to all potential investors that their own engineering efforts have now exceeded the invent

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

At 06:50 PM 10/9/2011, Alan Fletcher wrote: This analysis presumes that there is similar coupling of heat from the two streams. On the output (water) side the coupling is from water to brass, which is efficient. On the input (steam) side we have an unknown selection of any/all a) Superheated 120C

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

Alan J Fletcher wrote: In any event, this puts the thermocouple only 2 cm away from the center-line, and the thickness of the top of the manifold looks to be about 1 cm. Of course, rulers haven't been invented yet, so these distances are estimates. (Sorry, Jed ... this problem won't go awa

Re: [Vo]:No Control

On 11-10-10 01:14 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: I'm reminded of something recently stated over at the PESN web site, author, Hank Mills: See: http://pesn.com/2011/10/08/9501929_E-Cat_Test_Validates_Cold_Fusion_Despite_Challenges/ http://tinyurl.com/6a7zcw2 Specifically: No Contr

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

I just received a couple of iphone photos from an attendee (but I don't have permission to post them) which clearly shows that the thermocouple was attached to the nut near the center of the manifold. As best as I can tell, this lines up with the center of the connection to the heat exchanger.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

On 2011-10-10 19:43, Daniel Rocha wrote: Interesting! He deleted the message! Unfortunately I think it's too late now for him. The message has been already cited in several forums and blogs. Also, people with RSS feeds should still have it in their email clients. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10 -- Only 1 eCat

1. For the 6 Oct test, only one of the three modules in the E-Cat was active. Oct 6 for the test, only one of the three modules in the E-Cat was active. By what means were the other two made inoperative? By what means-Were the other two made inoperative? They don't seem to have separate heaters

Re: [Vo]:No Control

When you have a black box, controls are valid when there is a double blind, that is, the experimenter and the subject don't know which one is true. In the case of humans, it is to filter the placebo effect. In the case of the e-cat, it is to avoid fraud, that is, slightly different designs to make

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Interesting! He deleted the message! He said 'shit'. His mom probably made him erase it and eat soap. T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

That is hilarious. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:No Control

Experiments require controls. Demonstrations only require observers. I don't think AR is experimenting. I do think that we are soon to see either a legal feeding frenzy or a Greek and an Italian back having a romance. Unfortunately, I think the former is more likely due to pride (as in a lot of

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

Interesting! He deleted the message! 2011/10/10 Daniel Rocha > The question was not posted, but I guess he is calling of clowns the people > of Defkalion: > > http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94489 > > Dear Martin: > These are just clowns. > No other comment is o

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Quit picking on Catania who does not know the difference between 'your' and 'you're'. He passed away some time ago as is evidenced by this piccy of him surrounded by flowers. RIP JOE! http://www.theeestory.com/posts/199540 T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

The question was not posted, but I guess he is calling of clowns the people of Defkalion: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94489 Dear Martin: These are just clowns. No other comment is opportune. I want not to dirt this blog with that shit. My attorneys are taking

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

On 11-10-10 10:58 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > From Stephen: Mysterious RF oscillators with undocumented connections and functions add so much interest to the question of How It Works Has Rossi become the New Ron Stiffler? I'm inclined to think that Stephen's speculation i

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

Am 10.10.2011 18:50, schrieb Terry Blanton: Sure looks like they are saying that Rossi has stolen their design with his eLion. Hard to imagine, because Professor Stremmenos (vice president and chief scientist @ Defkalion) was present and smiling.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

Am 10.10.2011 18:19, schrieb Robert Lynn: Regarding the condensed steam outlet temp - don't think you can or should read much into it, 5-10°C on 2g/s is only 40-80W, not important for overall calorimetry. According to Mr. Rossi, the flow rate adjusted at the peristaltic pump was 15 kg/h. This e

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

On 11-10-10 11:56 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: I continue to update the review at: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf Thanks, Horace! There's a lot of "light reading" there, and I can't claim to have read all of it as yet -- very nice analysis. I found out I need

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

Sure looks like they are saying that Rossi has stolen their design with his eLion. T

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

Jed Rothwell is a serious, intelligent, dedicated, honorable, careful, scientific layman with the highest motives to benefit our world -- he always acknowledges his bias clearly and openly. I think it would be much to his credit to agree that the term "pathological skeptic" is as unworthy in publi

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On 11-10-10 12:33 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-10-10 11:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote: Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who ... And you, /Mister/ Catania, are apparently the type of poster who resorts to ad hominems when he's having trouble expressing himself clear

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

>From Robert: > More like a gun to the head - ie we think we can extract > legal remedies for your revelation of our confidential > materials unless you come to an agreement with us, (and > we know you are running out of money and time while we can > pay for lots of lawyers that will waste all of

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On 11-10-10 11:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote: Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who ... And you, /Mister/ Catania, are apparently the type of poster who resorts to ad hominems when he's having trouble expressing himself clearly enough to get his point across. Jed's may be a

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

More like a gun to the head - ie we think we can extract legal remedies for your revelation of our confidential materials unless you come to an agreement with us, (and we know you are running out of money and time while we can pay for lots of lawyers that will waste all of your time), but let's jus

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

Regarding the condensed steam outlet temp - don't think you can or should read much into it, 5-10°C on 2g/s is only 40-80W, not important for overall calorimetry. It could have been a typo (eg 23.2 instead of 28.2), and was likely to have been measured in the container Lewan used to collect 3 minu

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

>From Mark: > DGT wrote: > "We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing." > > and > > "We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments > designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion." > > I feel a lawsuit coming on! Yeah, perhaps so

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

I continue to update the review at: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf I found out I need to make the graphs small to not lose font readability in the report pdf. I made the separate graphs much larger now: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiGraph.png http://ww

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

DGT wrote: "We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing." and "We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion." I feel a lawsuit coming on! -mark

[Vo]:Let's revisit the October 6th Predictions...

Predictions: 1) This test has the potential to be quite conclusive. It won't be. *Check 2) It will take a LONG time for the e-Cat to come up to temperature. Only after it's stable, Rossi will begin circulating water in the secondary, and the e-Cat temperature will drop a little, and th

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