[Vo]:Detailed "1-MW" demo temperature analysis ; peak power = 490 kW, mean power 461 kW.

I was curious about JC's claims about the temperature profile during the warm-up period. Since no one seems to be doing that (or did I miss something?) I have started analyzing the Oct. 28th temperature data in more detail. I believe the data shows that initially the reactors are off, contain wa

Re: [Vo]:Building E-Cat based thermal electricity plants

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Good luck ever seeing an E-cat much less getting one to test. I do hope you do but I very much doubt you ever will.

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > To hide behind the veil of anonymity on a discussion group such as this is > cowardly. > > > > I have followed vortex-l since the 90s, and can’t remember any dispute > between contributors which might have ca

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote: > Mary Yugo, > > Yep that is a problem. > > Certainly says something about your convictions if you are not able to > back them up with your real identity. > No. It says that when I did reveal my identity in the past, I abused and credibly thr

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > Wait a minute... > > Hey, AussieGuy, is Aussie your first or last name? > :-) > > Can't remember if you've identified yourself to the Vort Collective or > not!! > Come on, what's good for the goose is good fo

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > It is true that the tests witnessed by E&K were somewhat sloppy. They > could have used better instrumentation. However, E&K are good scientists > and they understand that no experiment is perfect and that these > instru

Re: [Vo]:Building E-Cat based thermal electricity plants

I have redrawn the plant diagram. We do not know what the E-Cat's primary fluid is nor what temperature it exits the E-Cat at. As Rossi says this is still R&D. What we do know is Rossi has generated steam at 450 deg C as indicated here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c-Z-X_XpaV4uRF0WieT

Re: [Vo]:Building E-Cat based thermal electricity plants

We have access to what is happening in the CSP world and believe their solutions, minus the heat storage, are currently the best fit for a 400 deg C E-Cat thermal plant, especially for a demo plant. AG On 11/29/2011 3:36 PM, Robert Leguillon wrote: You describe a scenario that we would all lo

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

This is the most recent water tree corrosion transmutation report I've located so far... the full report is in here: http://www.iscmns.org/iccf14/ProcICCF14b.pdf 12 MB Proceedings of the 14th International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science and the 14th International Conference on C

Re: [Vo]:Building E-Cat based thermal electricity plants

The closest technology out there at present is what has been developed for CSP plants. I don't have the time nor like to re-invent the wheel if it can be avoided. There are several companies developing CSP plants in Australia and we can tag along on their "coat tails". Many thermal power plant

RE: [Vo]:Building E-Cat based thermal electricity plants

You describe a scenario that we would all love to see unfold. It would be tough to "pull a Rossi" and have such a demonstration remain ambiguous. Best of luck in thermoelectric conversion, and thanks for keeping us in the loop. > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:15:04 +1030 > From: aussieguy.e...@gmail

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

Did anyone try the "Water Tree" experiment? AG On 11/29/2011 3:25 PM, Rich Murray wrote: Thanks for your appreciation -- here's more on the topic: self-organizing networks can develop simple test kits for metal isotope anomalies in 'water tree' corrosion of thin polyethylene films, re T Kumaza

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

Thanks for your appreciation -- here's more on the topic: self-organizing networks can develop simple test kits for metal isotope anomalies in 'water tree' corrosion of thin polyethylene films, re T Kumazawa 2005 -- 2008 Japan: Rich Murray 2011.06.03 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/06/self-organ

[Vo]:Building E-Cat based thermal electricity plants

Following best practice in the CSP (Concentrating Solar Power) industry, where every watt is important and the heat is lower than what can be generated in a conventional thermal plant's boiler, we will be building a 1 MW E-Cat plant based on this system. We are working with Rossi to make this h

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Yep ok, The long bet system accepts one name. It checks it against a credit card number to make sure of true identity. Glad to see that many would be up for this challenge :) Regards, Patrick On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > Patrick Ellu

RE: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Wait a minute... Hey, AussieGuy, is Aussie your first or last name? :-) Can't remember if you've identified yourself to the Vort Collective or not!! Come on, what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Or vice-a-versa... -Mark

RE: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Wouldn't that be a hoot if it was good ol Dr. Mills. I hear BLP had to cut back on space heating to save money, and their technology is a little behind schedule, and over budget! :-) -Mark

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: NE is like 25% of the US. But North Carolina is definitely not part of it. This company does not appear to have facilities anywhere else. One source says: Sutherland Products Inc in Mayodan, NC is a private company categorized under Cleaning or Polishing Preparations, N

RE: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Being the sensitive, compassionate person that I am, how about we all contribute to Mary's share, so this costs her no $, after all, these are financially trying times. I'll contribute $20 to the possibility of Mary Yugo losing her anonymity. Any takers? -mark From: Patrick Ellul [mailto:el

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

NE is like 25% of the US. As you have said, sometime Rossi does mislead. The guy sure seemed interested to get involved at an early stage of the development and I would suggest, from researching Charlie Sutherland, that he would be a good and knowledgeable early adopter. Just what Rossi and the

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: This guy was interested in buying a E-Cat: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-** > physics.com/?p=510&cpage=32#**comment-118944< > http://www.journal-of-**nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&** > cpage=32#comment-

RE: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Patrick Ellul asks: "Is there anyone else who is game enough to put his real identity behind this?" I think what would include most anyone on this list, except Mary, and perhaps Cude. To hide behind the veil of anonymity on a discussion group such as this is cowardly. I have follo

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

This guy was interested in buying a E-Cat: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=32#comment-118944 Wonder if he is Rossi’s newest customer? AG On 11/29/2011 11:03 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Andrea Ro

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Institutions don't like to become irrelevant. They would reverse their policy and eat crow before that. They would claim they believed in its possibility all along, but were waiting for conclusive evidence. But they wouldn't fade into obscurity without making an attempt. On Nov 28, 2011, at

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

The only way I would accept that the technology is true without testing it is that at least 3 companies with an annual revenue of 200 million say they are happily using it for at least 3 months. I am not able to accept the biggest technological breakthrough of the history of mankind so easily. 201

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

There are not so many companies with 2000 employees. For the sake of the prediction, it doesnt matter if they have 50 employees or 2,000. It would still prove the technology is accepted. Daniel, would you be willing to challenge the prediction? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Rocha wro

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Alright, so, at least 20 companies with at least 2 thousand employees will happily announce they are using e-cats 2011/11/29 Jed Rothwell > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > No, what I mean is the challenge set by the charity campaign. 5 or 10 >> companies is insignificant. If this is true, I expect no l

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Daniel Rocha wrote: No, what I mean is the challenge set by the charity campaign. 5 or 10 > companies is insignificant. If this is true, I expect no less than a nobel > prize by 11/30/2013. There is not a chance in hell the Nobel prize will ever go to anyone associated with cold fusion. Not now

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Agree Daniel. Yet some "skeptics" are not willing to put their true identity behind their skepticism, even for such a "simple" challenge. Regards, Patrick On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > No, what I mean is the challenge set by the charity campaign. 5 or 10 > companies i

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

No, what I mean is the challenge set by the charity campaign. 5 or 10 companies is insignificant. If this is true, I expect no less than a nobel prize by 11/30/2013. 2011/11/29 Patrick Ellul > This is just a novel way of giving some money to charity, while showing > your conviction right now. >

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Mary Yugo wrote: Well, you see, the problem is that there are many possible errors in their > determinations and they did not do what was need to rule them out. > No, there are not. This is your imagination. If they had said "there is no heat" you would insist this was a bullet-proof test. Afte

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

This is just a novel way of giving some money to charity, while showing your conviction right now. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Don't you think this challenge is too simple? If the ecat is true, a nobel > prize is one of the smallest achievements. > > > 2011/11/29 Patri

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

Hello Stephen A. Lawrence, By any chance, do you as an older brother often find yourself in friendly exasperation rebuking a younger brother for impetuous, intemperate outbursts, not based on sober prudent consideration of much detailed evidence? Anyway, I admit being charmed by your rebukes. I

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Don't you think this challenge is too simple? If the ecat is true, a nobel prize is one of the smallest achievements. 2011/11/29 Patrick Ellul > I'm fine with 10, makes it more challenging. > > And I'd be happy to lose on such a small technicality. Would still prove > my point. And the money goe

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Mary Yugo, Yep that is a problem. Certainly says something about your convictions if you are not able to back them up with your real identity. Is there anyone else who is game enough to put his real identity behind this? Regards, Patrick Ellul On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

But you could argue there is one now -- all you have to do is place an order with *ah hem!* Rossi. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Perhaps it is better to keep it simple: 'By December 2013 there will > be commercially available cold fusion reactor that can produce thermal

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > >> My guess is: people who feel at home in equipment rooms with 1 MW >>> reactors. That would not include me. >>> >> >> My guess is nobody who can test it properly and my second guess is that >> it won't ever happen anyw

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Perhaps it is better to keep it simple: 'By December 2013 there will be commercially available cold fusion reactor that can produce thermal energy in competitive price.' –Jouni

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Mary Yugo wrote: > My guess is: people who feel at home in equipment rooms with 1 MW >> reactors. That would not include me. >> > > My guess is nobody who can test it properly and my second guess is that it > won't ever happen anyway. > Everyone who has tested it so far has been eminently quali

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > My guess is: people who feel at home in equipment rooms with 1 MW reactors. > That would not include me. > Seriously, as I have often said, engineers and HVAC professionals are who we > should depend upon to evaluate this thing. I know severa

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

My guess is you are very wrong. AG On 11/29/2011 1:05 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: Harry Veeder mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote: "visitable by the qualified public" who qualifies?

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Harry Veeder wrote: > > "visitable by the qualified public" >> >> who qualifies? >> > > My guess is: people who feel at home in equipment rooms with 1 MW > reactors. That would not include me. > My guess is nobody who can test it properly a

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote: > I do have one condition though, that the challenger reveals their true > identity. > Well, that's a problem. I have no intention of discussing anything about my identity.

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

How about: Three independent companies, each with more than 20 employees, gross revenues exceeding $50 M/year, and having been in existence for 5 years or more, should acknowledge the use of at least 500 MJ per liter of e-Cat. (In other words, if they have a 50 l e-Cat, they should report the use

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Harry Veeder wrote: "visitable by the qualified public" > > who qualifies? > My guess is: people who feel at home in equipment rooms with 1 MW reactors. That would not include me. Seriously, as I have often said, engineers and HVAC professionals are who we should depend upon to evaluate this th

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

I'm fine with 10, makes it more challenging. And I'd be happy to lose on such a small technicality. Would still prove my point. And the money goes to charity. So, Mary Yugo, what do you say? I do have one condition though, that the challenger reveals their true identity. Regards, Patrick On Tu

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

"visitable by the qualified public" who qualifies? harry On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Andrea Rossi > November 28th, 2011 at 6:48 PM November 28th, 2011 at 6:48 PM > > Dear Herb Gills: > Today we sold in the USA a 1 MW plant which will go to a normal Customer. > This

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Patrick Ellul wrote: > "More than 10 companies with at least 50 employees and that Rossi has no > ownership of, each publicly acknowledge the satisfactory use of E-Cat for > at least 3 months" > Not good. He sold 13 to the mystery client. That may be a large fraction of his annual output. There

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Ok, so let's change it to: "More than 10 companies with at least 50 employees and that Rossi has no ownership of, each publicly acknowledge the satisfactory use of E-Cat for at least 3 months" So? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Let me think about. They'd have to be ver

Re: [Vo]:NASA: Interesting LENR materials

Thanks, Robert And, here is some forgotten LENR evidence from 1951 -- Lattice Energy LLC-LENRs ca 1950s-Sternglass Expts-Einstein & Bethe-Nov 25 2011 http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lattice-energy-llclenrs-ca-1950ssternglass-exptseinstein-bethenov-25-2011 Maybe established theory has alwa

Re: [Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Way to go Rossi. Congratulations. Bit sad they beat us but then we need Ac kWs. AG On 11/29/2011 11:03 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Andrea Rossi November 28th, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Re: [Vo]:ZENN Trading Halted Pending News

At 04:51 PM 11/28/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: EEStor related? I wouldn't get my hopes up. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ZNN.V Peaked at 25% up from 10am -- coulda made a killing! (If I had any stock). Volume: 148,044

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Provisionals do not have high visibility. I know. I use them. On 11/29/2011 10:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>> wrote: And how do you know that is the case? I would suggest he has. Even better to do it as a p

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Let me think about. They'd have to be verifiable as unrelated to Rossi and unconnected in any way other than as a client. Rossi probably has 5 companies and he can make any claims through them as he wants to -- for example Leonardo and Ampenergo so I don't think so. If this thing is real, it wil

[Vo]:ZENN Trading Halted Pending News

http://tmx.quotemedia.com/article.php?newsid=4783244&qm_symbol=ZNN:CA Market Regulation Services - Trading Halt - Feel Good Cars Corp. - ZNN VANCOUVER, Jan. 18 /CNW/ - The following issues have been halted by Market Regulation Services (RS): Issuer Name: Feel Good Cars Corp. TSX-V Ticker Symbol

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

It appears there is debate here similar to the historic philosophical debate about how many angels can sit on the head of pin, when it is not determined the size or nature of the pin and whether angels exist. I am responding to this only to bring some clarity to what it is I am doing though

[Vo]:Energy-stress tensor of the sun

Hi Can anyone help me to find it? David David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Mary Yugo, Would you take up the challenge if I state the terms to be: "More than 5 companies with at least 50 employees each publicly acknowledge the satisfactory use of E-Cat for at least 3 months" Let me know, Patrick On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Widely recognized

[Vo]:Next customer -- public, NE USA

Andrea Rossi November 28th, 2011 at 6:48 PM November 28th, 2011 at 6:48 PM Dear Herb Gills: Today we sold in the USA a 1 MW plant which will go to a normal Customer. This installation will be visitable by the qualified public. We wait to have completed the contractual procedure through the a

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Widely recognized could mean that Fleishman and Pons and/or Rossi will get the nobel prize in 2013. High temperature conductivity, which is a much lesse expressive discovery, got within 1 year. If a couple customers confirm that e-cat works, which, if not a scam, is certainly going to happen within

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times - A Conversation With Thomas Blakeslee

AG, Krivit has staked his reputation upon Rossi being a scammer and I have seen nothing to suggest that he believes otherwise. It all began with that June demonstration where Rossi made an attempt to "snow" Krivit. Krivit detected the games that Rossi was playing and tried to trap him and his

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Robert Leguillon < robert.leguil...@hotmail.com> wrote: > BTW, the most random two-digit number is 37. > Hilarious!

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > And how do you know that is the case? I would suggest he has. Even better > to do it as a provisional. Rossi then gets another 12 months to keep it > secret yet establishes a worldwide priority date. > How do I know what is the case? Th

[Vo]:New Energy Times - A Conversation With Thomas Blakeslee

An interesting conversation: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/A-Conversation-With-Thomas-Blakeslee.shtml Is Krivit backing down a bit? AG

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Mary Yugo is correct. The term "widely accepted to produce a COP of 6" could mean anything depending on the observer and testing methodology. By many accounts in this forum, many of whom are textually prolific, it is already widely accepted. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

BTW, the most random two-digit number is 37. When groups of people are polled to pick a “random number between 1 and 100”, the most commonly chosen number is 37. I'm not saying that he just pulled the number out of thin air. I'm saying that, if he were to pull a number out of thin air, odds are,

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

And how do you know that is the case? I would suggest he has. Even better to do it as a provisional. Rossi then gets another 12 months to keep it secret yet establishes a worldwide priority date. AG On 11/29/2011 9:51 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat

Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Good idea but you need tighter and way more specific criteria for how the bet can be won or lost. Widely accepted is sort of vague and loose. How about: - said to have been properly tested and said to work by fusion or LENR as advertised and with the net energy quotient quoted by Rossi (6:1 or

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/04/rossi-says-that-over-the-years-has-blown-up-37-e-cats/ "" One of the questioner asked, “Another fun question: How many reactors have you blown up? (You have experimented to determine the safest size/pressures/temperatures. Stress testing is important!)” Rossi’s

[Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

Hi all, I have set up a long bet on a well respected website where the money from both sides go to charity. If you have a strong opinion on either side of this debate, you can challenge this prediction and turn it into a bet. (Minimum $200). The prediction is: "By November 30th 02013, Andrea Ros

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Patents in themselves give the inventor no real commercial protection > unless they have the funds and time to defend it in court. Investors like > to see patents, so maybe they do have a use. > Rossi could patent the secret sauce -- it's

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > Rossi has written on his blog about having had many explosions. I want > to > > see one (somewhere isolated where nobody can get hurt). That would be > > interesting ... and fun. > >

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Patents in themselves give the inventor no real commercial protection unless they have the funds and time to defend it in court. Investors like to see patents, so maybe they do have a use. AG On 11/29/2011 3:46 AM, Alain dit le Cycliste wrote: experience of small companies owning patents, or

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Rossi has written on his blog about having had many explosions.  I want to > see one (somewhere isolated where nobody can get hurt).  That would be > interesting ... and fun. I searched his responses on JoNP and never found him to use the word

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I suggest Rossi is more skilled in the art of understanding and > controlling his reactors than anyone on the planet. He was there so his > health was also at risk. It is a cheap shot to suggest to suggest he > intentionally risked the oth

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

@Peter "As an aside, please let me know how do you interpret Focardi's declaration that he does not know what Rossi's catayst is." I think the obvious interpretation is that Rossi invented it, and didn't tell Focardi. I think that's the official story anyway and I don't see anthing wrong with that?

Re: [Vo]:Larsen, LENR in Lithium batteries and burn out IPhone

I suggest Rossi is more skilled in the art of understanding and controlling his reactors than anyone on the planet. He was there so his health was also at risk. It is a cheap shot to suggest to suggest he intentionally risked the others health. You were not were, so how can you judge? I do reme

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 28.11.2011 22:01, schrieb Mary Yugo: Aah now I see, it this is this > guy: > >

[Vo]:NASA: Interesting LENR materials

Interesting NASA materials (I've posted a couple of these before): Contract Statement of Work for LENR Support: R1>2.1 Material investigations: The Contractor shall investigate properties of electromagnetic materials (EM) in support of the R4>LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) project.to inves

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

Am 28.11.2011 22:01, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM, David Roberson > wrote: I agree Horace. This is pathetic. Dave Deasy, IIRC, has a PhD in a physical science or engineering and is a flight dynamics specialist by profession. He s

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

Brad please accept my apology. I have worked hard and get slammed a lot. I have, through this, become a bit quick to react. Yes they want to make steam, however, with the positive thermal coefficient it is going to be difficult to control. Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM, David Roberson wrote: > I agree Horace. This is pathetic. > > Dave > Deasy, IIRC, has a PhD in a physical science or engineering and is a flight dynamics specialist by profession. He supported Steorn and for all I know, still believes that have a free energy

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

I agree Horace. This is pathetic. Dave -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 1:45 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test On Nov 28, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:44

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Well, he can't bite me.  He might have a disease. You were going to let an alien bite you and you were going to BITE IT BACK! Talk about diseases . . . outta this world! T

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > fznidar...@aol.com wrote: > > Bite me Brad! > > MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive. > > > He meant Mary Yugo, not you. > Well, he can't bite me. He might have a disease.

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Bite me Brad! MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive. He meant Mary Yugo, not you. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

Bite me Brad! MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive. -Original Message- From: ecat builder To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 8:01 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application Frank, If LENR is mostly beta decay, I'm not sure w

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

There are two forces at work in the nucleus. The strong and the electromagnetic. In ordinary hot fusion only the static electrostatic repulsion and the static strong nuclear attraction are considered. There are other induced forces the electromagnetic and the dynamic strong nuclear spin orbi

[Vo]:Concept car looks like a smart phone

Here is an extreme example of what I discussed in chapter 7 of my book: one technology imitating another. In this case Toyota is making cars that look like smart phones. See (in Japanese): http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/atmoney/news/2028-OYT1T01025.htm You can program your smart phone to display

Re: [Vo]:Article about trip of andrea rossi to massachusetts from boston globe

On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Hold on here . . . This link seems to work: http://bostonglobe.com/business/2011/11/28/hope-skepticism-for-cold- fusion/w7FgGyI9Zx432chxuD5BEL/story.html It looks the same but there must be some difference. I got this link from Google alerts

Re: [Vo]:Elevated-temperature excess heat production in a Pd & D system in 1991

peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: I think, this says all. This guy is a professional electrochemist and without doubt he has 1000fold more possibilities than I. If he gave up, he has doubts himself. He gave up because he could not get funding. That is what he told me. This approach is expensive.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

On Nov 28, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: Yes, I will sign up too. Alan we miss the bandwagon. I guess Mary is taking all the money. G You can have the Rossi business. I'm concentrating on debunking Hugh Deasy's antigravit

Re: [Vo]:Article about trip of andrea rossi to massachusetts from boston globe

Hold on here . . . This link seems to work: http://bostonglobe.com/business/2011/11/28/hope-skepticism-for-cold-fusion/w7FgGyI9Zx432chxuD5BEL/story.html It looks the same but there must be some difference. I got this link from Google alerts. If the Googlebot can read it so can we. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Announcement on Wednesday

This should be an interesting announcement. Dave -Original Message- From: Robert Leguillon To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 1:30 pm Subject: [Vo]:Defkalion Announcement on Wednesday >From the Defkalion forum: "Dear all, We will release the expected info pre-announced on Novem

Re: [Vo]:Article about trip of andrea rossi to massachusetts from boston globe

Now it seems you can see it without signing up. - Jed

[Vo]:Defkalion Announcement on Wednesday

>From the Defkalion forum: "Dear all, We will release the expected info pre-announced on November 14th 2011, on Wednesday, November 30th 2011. Thank you for your attention Defkalion GT" to search for Defkalion statements in their forum, use: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/search.php?ke

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

They do not pay us enough :-) The hours are long and the pay is short. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test On 11-11-28 12:28 PM, Alan J Fletcher wro

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:01 AM, ecat builder wrote: MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive. > Its no wonder you're hiding behind a pseudonym. He didn't say people > are spinning a turbine, he said they are generating heat _to_ spin a > turbine. (future tense.) > I

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

But does it fit the possibility of 470 kW also? -Original Message- From: Joshua Cude To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 12:50 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM, David Roberson wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern's 2011 USPTO patent application

Frank, If LENR is mostly beta decay, I'm not sure why its not work like a betavoltaic. It would be the "killer app" of the century. Please get to work. :) > Who is spinning a turbine with LENR? MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive. Its no wonder you're hiding behind

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