Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

Right, I mean the battery need only to allow the vehicle to move on the highway, while the LENR engine is cold... I don't know well the power need of cars. I just look at current hybrid cars power to get reasonable values. 25kW when running cold is a good news. I assume this mean that when engine

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

Question between parallel and serial hybrid is studied, but for gas+electric. using a serial hybrid mode (Volt?), mean having 2 electric engine/generator able to sustain the full power. good point for serial is that turbine works at optimal working point, because it has no need to drive the wheel.

Re: [Vo]:Enormous current densities in nanowires

Horace, You parse comments way too precisely. I should have said that "your observations raise questions." For instance, a key one is - "The WL math and QM is possibly controversial (e.g. via Hagelstein and Chaudhary), but the logic and common sense in problem definition and conclusions are clea

Re: [Vo]:Enormous current densities in nanowires

On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:11 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Following are some comments on the validity of WL theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg38261.html Lots of good questions, but my example is not ambitious enough to answer them. I just wanted to see whether c

Re: [Vo]:On Widow Larsen theory, need vulgarization, and critic

In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:54:31 +0100: Hi, [snip] >thus the mass is simply caused by all the lattice/wave around, slowing the >electrons when it tries to move... Personally, I can't see this contributing to it's ability to form a neutron, however it might solve a di

Re: [Vo]:Enormous current densities in nanowires

Horace, thanks for the reply. You wrote: > You should keep in mind that in nanowires, even (laser induced) > thermal pulses move at 2x10^6 m/s, the conduction band electron speed. Yes. There are electron-lattice mechanical couplings (e.g,, pinches, phonons, ...) that complicate a simple, classic

Re: [Vo]:LENR & 'Proliferation' was: US DOE alters its stance on LENR and Rossi?

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:59:19 +0100: Hi, [snip] >Well finding deuterium would be definitive proof of 'something anomalous' >but not fusion, since they can absolutely rule out ALL varieties of hydrogen >fusion now. You absolutely have to get rid of a positive charge

Re: [Vo]:LENR & 'Proliferation' was: US DOE alters its stance on LENR and Rossi?

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:28:38 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] >The monitor used by Rossi's team in January is specifically designed to detect >positrons, which must be there if there is to be H+H fusion. None were >detected. There is a bit of a problem with this. The de

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Thanks Mauro, Would you say that the number of protons and electrons being ejected from the sun remains relatively equal? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:19:07 -0500: Hi, [snip] >A cold fusion hybrid >would probably not need as many batteries as the Prius plug-in or Volt. >Just enough to bring the turbine up to full output. If that could be done >in 6 minutes, or ~8 miles at highway speed, th

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Steven and Mark, Yes that is what I mean. More to the point we take it for granted that gravitational forces can be compared to electrostatic forces. But what are we doing when we say gravity is so much weaker than electromagnetism? This "truth" is repeated often but I would argue it is a persisten

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

I wrote: > Also -- as I pointed out -- the cold fusion motor would soon be cheaper, > as the technology matures. Two reasons: > > 1. No pollution control, gas tank, muffler, or catalytic converter needed. > > 2. Thermoelectric chips will be used across a much wider range of > applications . . . >

Re: [Vo]:Enormous current densities in nanowires

On Jan 9, 2012, at 1:39 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Ref[1] points out that certain nanowires can carry enormous current densities (~ 10^11[A/cm^2]) which vaporize macro-sized wires. In metals, this equates to ballistic electron speeds of ~ 100 km/sec - approximately the same as (0-Amp)

[Vo]:Transportation energy

Jay: I suggest you set your e-mail parameters so that responses on Vortex do not go to you directly. Jay Caplan wrote: ** > No, there may be a point being missed here, but that point concerns the > BATTERIES needed for the scheme mentioned below. They are expensive. > They are getting a lot che

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

No, there may be a point being missed here, but that point concerns the BATTERIES needed for the scheme mentioned below. They are expensive. I drove a converted LeCar for 3 years and used up a set of 16 lead acid deep cell batteries ($1700) in 12,000 miles = >$0.14/mile. $4 gasoline in a 32 mpg

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

On 01/09/2012 02:41 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Thanks, Jones. I read the paragraph. I'm not surprised read that the paper states "...The global stellar electrostatic field is 918 times stronger than the corresponding stellar gravity..." More on that later. Meanwhile, yes, I am bas

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Terry sez: > Think of it this way:  a proton might be composed of 1836 electrons. > > Add one more and you have a neutron! Yup. Got that part. Knew that recipe eons ago. Still, I suspect semantics is still getting in the way of what I'm trying to describe. In a nutshell, I'm wondering if the ag

Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things

Mary Yugo I dedicate this rap song to you and the skeptics in this list: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAYVY2eLMck&feature=related Giovanni On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo asked a sensible question: Why are these people wearing > overcoats standing next to a 12

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Typically, when you have a ratio of two things whose units are the same, the answer (ratio) has no units since they cancel, and you're left with a dimensionless (unitless) number. In this case, you have: mp+ / me-, mass / mass -mark -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven V

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:41 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Ok... > > Mark, Terry. thanks. > > I'm going have to think about this for a spell since there seem to be > different interpretations. Think of it this way: a proton might be composed of 1836 electrons. Add one more and you h

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > It seems to me that even in the best case scenario it is not likely > that our nation would be motivated (economically and/or politically > speaking) to start digging up all of these service station gas tanks - > not for quite a while. I'd estimate it is li

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Ok... Mark, Terry. thanks. I'm going have to think about this for a spell since there seem to be different interpretations. Semantics can be quite disconcerting to a dyslexic. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:Enormous current densities in nanowires

Ref[1] points out that certain nanowires can carry enormous current densities (~ 10^11[A/cm^2]) which vaporize macro-sized wires. In metals, this equates to ballistic electron speeds of ~ 100 km/sec - approximately the same as (0-Amp) random thermal electron velocity - far greater than a diffusive

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Can you clarify what is implied when using the term "dimension" and > "dimensionless" here. The mass of the proton is 1836 x the mass of the electron. It's a multiplication factor. No units. T

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

>From Jed: ... > Think of all the real estate that will be opened up as gas > stations are abandoned. They are ugly. Good riddance to them. > It is a shame all those people will lose their jobs. It seems to me that even in the best case scenario it is not likely that our nation would be motivate

[Vo]:Tiny kamikaze drones

See: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/tiny-kamikaze-drone/ This is what I predicted in my book, only the range will be unlimited. Launch one anywhere in the world, kill someone anywhere else in the world a week later. Untraceable. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:ICCF15 proceedings on line

Okay, I uploaded the book in two parts. See: http://lenr-canr.org/FilesByDate.htm (You may need to reload this.) Part 1 is 45 MB and part 2 is 24 MB. 69 MB total, which is smaller than the original. I squeezed some air out of it. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Steven: I believe he means 'units' and 'unit-less'... as in volts/meter for electrostatic field strength. He doesn’t mean dimensions as in x,y,z,t dimensions. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:01 P

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

I wrote: It will cost a great deal to dig up the old tanks at gas stations. > Note that you cannot leave them in the ground these days. There is an EPA rule: http://www.epa.gov/oust/pubs/20annrpt.pdf This is a sensible, good rule. Most EPA rules are "common sense written into regulations." That

RE: [Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

Hi Dave, You asked, “I wonder how his device would be able to keep things like vacuum cleaners and other electric motors from bombing it out.” I don’t think my friend owns a vacuum cleaner! LoL J But to answer your question more directly, the preamp and filtering was designed for *sub-Hz*

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

Robert Leguillon wrote: > > I could not fathom a scenario where the climate lobbies would not try to > exorbitantly tax carbon-releasing fuels in order to expedite their "phase > out." > I do not think that will be necessary. It will phase out of its own as quickly as replacement automobiles can

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

>From Harry: > The ratio is also dimensionless but the ratio of the strength of the > sun's electrostatic field to its gravitational field is not > dimensionless. Can you clarify what is implied when using the term "dimension" and "dimensionless" here. It doesn't compute for me. Regards Steven

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Also -- as I pointed out -- the cold fusion motor would soon be cheaper, > as the technology matures. > It's really obvious: Rossi should sell the eCat on eBay! :-)

RE: [Vo]:Transportation energy

I'll add to Jed's comments, that: If cold fusion were indeed proved a geniune, plausible, pollution-free alternative, the market would be upended due to external pressures. I could not fathom a scenario where the climate lobbies would not try to exorbitantly tax carbon-releasing fuels in ord

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

Jay Caplan wrote: A quick cursory search shows the coal to liquid route to be less expensive > than current oil and, of course, S Africa has been forced on this route for > decades :"...Estimates of the cost of producing liquid fuels from coal > suggest that domestic U.S. production of fuel from

[Vo]:Celani WSEC 2012 slides online

Hello group, Francesco Celani just sent to Daniele Passerini (22passi) the slides he will show tomorrow during his preliminary 20 minutes talk at the Geneva WSEC 2012 conference, in English (the day after he will hold a more detailed two hour workshop on LENR in which he will supposedly also

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

The ratio is also dimensionless but the ratio of the strength of the sun's electrostatic field to its gravitational field is not dimensionless. Harry On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Harry sez: > >> The ratio is not exactly 1836. > > I realize that Harry. I g

[Vo]:Transportation energy

"The cost of extracting or synthesizing the liquids, then transporting, storing and pumping them would be far greater than the extra cost of a cold fusion engine." A quick cursory search shows the coal to liquid route to be less expensive than current oil and, of course, S Africa has been

Re: [Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

That is a very interesting story Mark. I wonder how his device would be able to keep things like vacuum cleaners and other electric motors from bombing it out. Did he happen to mention anything about the frequency response of the device? I can imagine that it has a very low cutoff frequency,

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

I liked it as well, Especially when he says 'actual annihilation's is extremely rare!' works well with my NEO LET perspective of ether where VP expanding into then shrinking out of our plane as they flow along a perpendicular extra dimension. Fran -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - S

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Harry sez: > The ratio is not exactly 1836. I realize that Harry. I got the "1836" number from the same Wiki article. I rounded the measured value to an integer for expediency. Nothing more. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Steven, One time I was interested in the shapes of fields due to charges and found that superposition applies. So, you can think of a dipole as being the sum of two charges with a given separation. The positive charge either attracts your test charge or repels it depending upon its polarity.

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

The ratio is not exactly 1836. from wikipedia " In physics, the proton-to-electron mass ratio, μ or β, is simply the rest mass of the proton divided by that of the electron. Because this is a ratio of like-dimensioned physical quantity, it is a dimensionless quantity, a function of the dimensionle

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

I wrote: > The cost of extracting or synthesizing the liquids, then transporting, > storing and pumping them would be far greater than the extra cost of a cold > fusion engine. > Let me explain what I mean by that. Liquid or gasoline fuel would presumably be either synthetic gasoline, liquid hyd

RE: [Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

A little off topic, but perhaps interesting for some rookies in the Collective. For some first-hand experience with how rock fracturing affects it's magnetic properties, and how that manifests in anomalous geomagnetic activity (for EQ prediction), see this post: http://www.mail-archive.com/vo

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

>From David: > Attractive forces between two charges is related to 1/r^2 or the second > order. Hmmm. Then the sauce is getting thicker for me. ;-) > A dipole type structure has a different law, but that is not what > you seem to be talking about. Regarding dipoles, According to Wiki: htt

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

And in that context, some years ago I acquired one of a very few copies of a book which contained some ideas from 1952 about the relationship between the masses of various particles, which includes a derivation of the magic 1836.1 http://nigel.thedyers.org.uk/Jessup/ Nigel > -Original Messag

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Jones sez: > Reminds me of a concise and short post written a few years ago ... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg00349.html Ah yes, a classic Jones essay, vintage 2004. I enjoyed reading it... again? Kind of like statisticians hunt'in for wild hairs. Regards Steven Vincen

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Attractive forces between two charges is related to 1/r^2 or the second order. A dipole type structure has a different law, but that is not what you seem to be talking about. I suspect that you will need to include the charges that are surrounding the star but not inside if you are to see how

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Yes, for number-freaks in general - 918 is one of those 'pregnant' numbers with Platonic significance ... and in the context of 1836, it comes up from time to time in alternative energy - often wrt Hotson's epo field. Reminds me of a concise and short post written a few years ago ... http://www

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Jones sez: >> I'm not surprised read that the paper states "...The global >> stellar electrostatic field is 918 times stronger than the >> corresponding stellar gravity..." More on that later. > ... Oh… you mean that 918 turns out to be half of a particular > value that makes it seem to be rather

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

Automotive engineers say they would have no trouble making a cold fusion heat engine given the temperatures and power density the best existing devices. commercial devices will be far better than the best existing experimental device today. As noted by others here, the most likely design would

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

-Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > I'm not surprised read that the paper states "...The global stellar electrostatic field is 918 times stronger than the corresponding stellar gravity..." More on that later. ... Oh… you mean that 918 turns out to be half of a parti

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

technically possible, but way more expensive than liquid internal combustion, so why? we'll stay with liquids for transport just because of the cost factor. there are lots of alternatives: Gas to Liquids, Coal to Liquids, Biomass to Liquids if the petroleum reserves ever quit going up, as they h

Re: [Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

I wonder if stress induced NTC plays a role in the production of neutrons detected by Cardone et al. at the moment granite fractures under load: paper http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0903/0903.3104.pdf slide show http://files.splinder.com/4ae1443c64aa2e0faf9cdca00d8e7148.pdf Harry On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Addendum: Let me add that my understanding of gravitation forces is based on applying Newton's famous square of the distance formula. But does the same square of the distance law govern the measured forces of charged particles as well? I was assuming that was indeed the case. But I could be dead w

Re: [Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

In nanowires, conductance itself can change in a complex nonmonotonic, nonlinear way as a function of current density. For example, see -- "Quantum Suppression of the Rayleigh Instability in Nanowires" http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0006237 James Bowery wrote: > Something that occurs to me abou

Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

Thanks, Jones. I read the paragraph. I'm not surprised read that the paper states "...The global stellar electrostatic field is 918 times stronger than the corresponding stellar gravity..." More on that later. Meanwhile, yes, I am basically aware of Mills' explanation of the corona, having someth

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

On 2012-01-09 18:24, Alain Sepeda wrote: yes, but with hybrid... let's imagine a Toyota Prius, with : - a smaller battery, with just 15 minute autonomy at full speed What do you mean for "full speed"? If it's "full power", then you might want to reconsider that. With about 100 kW of peak po

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

2012/1/9 Jay Caplan > Oil products still necessary for transportation/internal combustion > engines. Cold fusion is a heat source only, can't efficiently be used in > transportation, outside of large ships' steam plants. > > What, back to steam engine cars and trucks? > yes, but with hybrid...

Re: [Vo]:Forbes Survey on E-Cat

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Rossi's device has been tested by experts such as Kullander. > Based on what he did and what he asked Rossi (or failed to ask Rossi), Kullander lost his credentials as an "expert". However, to his credit, he asked for more tests. Rossi ha

RE: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

Though you could have modern steam vehicles, it is unlikely that this would be the long-term solution for transportation. Heat to electric conversion is the most likely candidate. By using a heating medium with a large temperature range, an E-Cat/Hyperion could (in theory) efficiently feed i

Re: [Vo]:ICCF15 proceedings on line

On 2012-01-09 16:57, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://iccf15.frascati.enea.it/ICCF15-PROCEEDINGS.pdf This is a large file, 96 MB. I had difficulty downloading it and viewing it. I shall break it into two parts and upload it to LENR-CANR.org, after lunch. I asked permission to do this. They gave

RE: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?

There is a net electrostatic charge in the solar corona, as well as in the solar interior. You are aware of the Millsean explanation, for the corona. I have a better citation than this, which I can’t find at the moment. This one will lead you deeper or you can google “electrostatic charge of stars

Re: [Vo]:Forbes Survey on E-Cat

There is also the fact that 95% of the reasonable people did interpret the question what is the most likely the correct answer. Normaly we by default think in terms of probabilities, although it is unconscious thinking. For most of the people probablities are hard thing to understand rationally, b

[Vo]:ICCF15 proceedings on line

See: http://iccf15.frascati.enea.it/ICCF15-PROCEEDINGS.pdf This is a large file, 96 MB. I had difficulty downloading it and viewing it. I shall break it into two parts and upload it to LENR-CANR.org, after lunch. I asked permission to do this. They gave me permission years ago, but I asked again.

RE: [Vo]:Cooper pairing of protons

Well there is always that mystery "window" ... -Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X Defkalion must have some form of "agitation" in the reactor > Last time I checked DGT denies the use of a RFG. Yes - they absolutely deny it when asked specifically. And they seem to be far mor

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Cooper pairing of protons

Defkallion must have some form of "agitation" in the reactor -If not RF then some other stimulus must be native to their design like laser, mechanical vibration, electrical or magnetic fields. Going out on a limb I might even consider some relationship between the golden ratio and the relativist

Re: [Vo]:Forbes Survey on E-Cat

Horace Heffner wrote: Shocking to me that 86.3% think they know the answer, when there is no > scientific basis to know the truth. You are being unreasonable. Most knowledge has no scientific basis. Nearly everything we "know" we take other people's word for. You know that airplane engines are

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

Oil products still necessary for transportation/internal combustion engines. Cold fusion is a heat source only, can't efficiently be used in transportation, outside of large ships' steam plants. What, back to steam engine cars and trucks? - Original Message - From: Zell, Chris T

RE: [Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

I agree that loading stress is extremely high, and that temperature enhances it. Frank Grimer calculated that the threshold 1:1 loading stress approaches the failure mode of the host metal. This explains why Rossi is careful not to let the temperature get too high. This is a good find. How

RE: [Vo]:Cooper pairing of protons

-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > Last time I checked DGT denies the use of a RFG. Yes - they absolutely deny it when asked specifically. And they seem to be far more forthcoming than Rossi, but not completely honest. Does anyone has direct or indirect evidence of RF being emplo

RE: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

Yes, the bankruptcies will be massive. However, some entities will survive based on oil/gas used as a petrochemical feedstock. For them, it ain't gonna be pretty. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:04 PM To: vor

Re: [Vo]:Forbes Survey on E-Cat

It was also surprising that around 40% answered yes. That's a too big proportion for something that is considered crackpot and not linked to new age cults or any religion. 2012/1/9 Horace Heffner > http://www.forbes.com/sites/**markgibbs/2012/01/08/the-e-** > cat-real-or-surreal/

[Vo]:Forbes Survey on E-Cat

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2012/01/08/the-e-cat-real-or- surreal/ 1160 respondents 44.4% yes - will perform as claimed 41.9% no - will not perform as claimed 13.7% Don't know Shocking to me that 86.3% think they know the answer, when there is no scientific basis to know the truth.

Re: [Vo]:Cooper pairing of protons

Last time I checked DGT denies the use of a RFG. T On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > These resonance interactions come from the crystal structure of metal > lattices and the quantum phonons that vibrate through the lattice at just > the right temperature. It also comes from cert

[Vo]:Stress-induced negative coefficient of temperature?

Something that occurs to me about the emergence of a negative coefficient of temperature at high loading of hydrogen in metallic lattices is that it may be related to the stress imposed by that loading. If stress reaches a point where charge carriers to emerge, then increasing the temperature may

[Vo]:Piantelli to disclose information regarding his work during WSEC 2012

Hello group, Have a read at what Roy Virgilio (nicknamed here "eroyka". I don't think a presentation for him is needed, but for those who don't know already, he's an acquaintance of Ni-H LENR researcher Francesco Piantelli and people working with him) just wrote here on his Energeticambiente.i

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY

I'm afraid that LENR will trigger opposition, not mainly because of the business that invest in 3rd revolution, but because all the others who morally have invested in punitive policy. I see a big part of 3rd revolution technology that CAN be reused : - Converting Buildings into Power Plants (but