Re: [Vo]:Rossi Third-Party Paper : Good News / Bad News

2013-01-19 Thread Susanna Gipp
Unless it's another hot air balloon launch to earn time and keep its supporters happy... Who knows? 2013/1/18 David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com I have my fingers crossed. Dave, don't hold them too long otherwise you're going to have them blocked forever Cheers

[Vo]:Dr. Edmund Storms, LENR interview on The Space Show (2013-01-18)

2013-01-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Listen here: http://archive.thespaceshow.com/shows/1932-BWB-2013-01-18.mp3 (90 minute MP3 46.1MB) The Space Show website: http://www.thespaceshow.com/ Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:A Big European Consortium has an eye on MFMP

2013-01-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
yes, renewable , except hydroelectric, is not yet cost effecive and need huge progress. It is still developed because some see no alternative. as soon as an easy energy requires 10 times less investment than what is needed for the cheapest energy, nuke, 100 times less than the worst renewable,

Re: [Vo]:Math question

2013-01-19 Thread fznidarsic
Thanks it was a great help. My spelling check in my Kindle changes words. I hate it. Frank Z -Original Message- From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Math question Thanks I was a great help.

Re: [Vo]:Dr. Edmund Storms, LENR interview on The Space Show (2013-01-18)

2013-01-19 Thread fznidarsic
Storm's has to drop out due to the financial condition. As far as I know government pensions are still coming in, the market is up 12% for the year, and people are slowly going back to work. What is he talking about? Perhaps he is just getting tired of it. John Logajan gave up his Skypoint

[Vo]:Novel Desalinization Process

2013-01-19 Thread Jones Beene
There will come a time when pure water is more precious than gasoline. Actually, in many parts of the Middle East and Africa, drinking water already costs more per gallon. There is a fabulous new forward osmosis process recently announced from Saltworks - a Vancouver company which also has

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Third-Party Paper : Good News / Bad News

2013-01-19 Thread David Roberson
I forgot to mention that I accidentally used super glue to hold them in place! My opinion of Rossi is going to be very much determined by when this report comes out and what it says. If it is delayed forever in a similar fashion to what has been typical of the past, I will start to believe MY

Re: [Vo]:Novel Desalinization Process

2013-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am a big fan of desalination. But I recently came across an article that says it does not work well: http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/13657-dirty-pricey-and-obsolete-why-desalination-is-not-worth-its-salt - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Novel Desalinization Process

2013-01-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
the article is interesting but it critics only on 2 points. the second is that energy is expensive, which mean that with LENR is not a problem. the second is that you can save water. it is true, and even more I think that the fear of globally lacking water is a mythology fed by the usual

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Third-Party Paper : Good News / Bad News

2013-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Susanna Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: Unless it's another hot air balloon launch to earn time and keep its supporters happy... Who knows? Earn time from who, for what? The Patent Office does not care how long he takes. If his bank account is falling, he will not make it last longer by

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Third-Party Paper : Good News / Bad News

2013-01-19 Thread Peter Gluck
I still think that the most probable scenario of Rossi's behavior is the follpwing: *technically:* - he has indeed discovered a method to enhance excess heat in the Ni-H system;\ -it is difficult to convert this enhanced excess heat in a controllable, manageable long duration energy source; he

RE: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on Boeing batteries

2013-01-19 Thread Ron Clark
Lithium batteries are being used in space without know issues on heating or other system issues. Best Regards, Ron Clark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:02 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Interesting

RE: [Vo]:A Big European Consortium has an eye on MFMP

2013-01-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
It would premature to stop those investments now because LENR might come to pass. Even I think so, and no one is more confident that cold fusion has to potential to displace all other sources of energy than I am.   It has the potential, yes. But first it must be controlled, then developed.

RE: [Vo]:Rossi Third-Party Paper : Good News / Bad News

2013-01-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Peter: I still think that the most probable scenario of Rossi's behavior is the follpwing: [snip] Let me just reply with: Yes, Yes, and Yes. ...plus the fact that Rossi is both a prima donna and a loose cannon. It seems the combination makes for many unstable scenarios. Some which are

Re: [Vo]:A Big European Consortium has an eye on MFMP

2013-01-19 Thread James Bowery
The solution is to fix capitalism so it does the job it is supposed to do: Manage risk. People who do signal processing can understand this analogy: Imagine you are trying to get a good signal by integrating it over time. The very first thing you do is take a null reading from your instrument

Re: [Vo]:A Big European Consortium has an eye on MFMP

2013-01-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: But while the government may be capable of sustaining losses incurred by programs like The Shuttle, The Tokamak, etc. since it can always turn to the private sector for taxes, but had better have that power because it has

Re: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on Boeing batteries

2013-01-19 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2013-01-overcharging-batteries-eyed-boeing-mishaps.html An investigator in Japan, where a 787 made an emergency landing earlier this week, said the charred insides of the plane's lithium ion battery show the battery received voltage in excess of its design limits. Read more

Re: [Vo]:A Big European Consortium has an eye on MFMP

2013-01-19 Thread James Bowery
You're starting to engage in true progressive thinking but you're falling far short of what needs to be done to really apply the scientific method to the social sciences in an ethical manner -- said ethics being founded on the consent of experimental subjects: http://sortocracy.org On Sat, Jan

Re: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on Boeing batteries

2013-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
From this article, you can see why airplane manufacturers are so conservative, and reluctant to use new technology. Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-01-overcharging-batteries-eyed-boeing-mishaps.html#jCp - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Does This System Beat Laws of Thermodynamics?

2013-01-19 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:03:07 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] Robin, you are right, I was afraid that I would break that nasty thermodynamic law and become confined within a black hole. I was actually hoping that the solar cell argument would help me understand

Re: [Vo]:Does This System Beat Laws of Thermodynamics?

2013-01-19 Thread David Roberson
Robin, do you actually have to check to see if it gets cooler? Would it not be necessary for this to happen if heat energy is taken out of the system and put into the battery in the form of chemical energy? The COE would force the cooling unless I am mistaken. Dave -Original

Re: [Vo]:Does This System Beat Laws of Thermodynamics?

2013-01-19 Thread John Berry
Unless it breaks a different law of conservation of energy. On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Robin, do you actually have to check to see if it gets cooler? Would it not be necessary for this to happen if heat energy is taken out of the system and put