RE: [Vo]:Deconstructing Rossi

2014-10-28 Thread Jones Beene
Robert Greenyer has a different take on Rossi's initial product: a dogbone heater element for furnaces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyp14fnE1jQ I think the Blue Box space heater for Asia makes more sense. -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com in such a way that the net COP

[Vo]: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Higgins
Since MFMP is building a replica of the IH reactor as shown in the Lugano test, one of the proposals I have made is to begin with a single-phase dummy reactor for primary purpose of gaining data on the temperature / convection behavior. I propose that the heater be capable of driving the alumina

Re: [Vo]: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread David Roberson
Are you assuming that the single phase drive triac controller is connected to the three heating units in parallel? That should be OK for a dummy test but the interaction with the fuel might become an issue when a final test is performed. I wonder if the MFMP group has access to a large

Re: [Vo]:questions on McKubre cells and AC component

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Higgins
As a follow-up to this, and as part of my appropriate public recanting, here are the equations for power during a sample time. This shows that if the current is made a constant, then only the average voltage need be acquired. Between samples, a capacitance on the voltage measurement node will

Re: [Vo]: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Higgins
What I am assuming is that, 1) we similify the heater winding to be a single coil for the first reactor we build. Instead of having 3 interleaved 25T windings, there will be a single winding of 18 gauge Kanthal APM wire with 75T. I am proposing 2) that there be no reactor fuel at all for this

[Vo]:Re: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Cook
Bob The most important item is the correlation between thermocouple reading and the Optris camera. This would allow calibration of the camera with internal temperature. A thermocouple on the outside of the reactor (maybe several on the outside) would allow a heat flux calculation through the

Re: [Vo]: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread a.ashfield
A type B platinum thermocouple is good for this temperature. As I suggested on an earlier thread, All one really needs is one thermocouple, and place a sample of the Alumina rfractorey in a small oven. Having set the IR camera up before closing the oven door, just open the door and take a

Re: [Vo]: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Cook
This seems like a good test simple test to me. Bob Cook From: a.ashfield To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor A type B platinum thermocouple is good for this temperature. As I

Re: [Vo]:MFMP interviews spokesman from WILLIAMSON

2014-10-28 Thread Alan Fletcher
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:57:38 PM My analysis of IR calorimetry and Black Body radiation is here : http://lenr.qumbu.com/blackbody_141027A.php Slightly updated. I used my blackbody calculator to derive an emissivity/temperature curve similar to Lugano fig 2. I swept the

Re: [Vo]:Deconstructing Rossi

2014-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: I think the Blue Box space heater for Asia makes more sense. Why not do both. After all, if you're about to enter the market with a revolutionary product with no patent protection to speak of, why not stampede the market?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Ni Self-Enrichment

2014-10-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:25:44 -0700: Hi, [snip] Don't forget that only a tiny sample of the ash was measured. It's entirely possible that the sample just happened to be one in which the process was complete. If the reaction wasn't uniform throughout the reactor

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Robert Ellefson's message of Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:53:02 -0700: Hi, [snip] The reactions I already provided make a lot more sense than these, because they are two particle reactions, where these are three particle reactions, which are very rare. Furthermore these reactions require that

RE: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Ellefson
I agree that the reactions I am proposing are extremely unlikely to occur in an unconstrained system, such as a gas or plasma in three-space. However, you must consider that these reactions are occurring in the midst of *intense* interactions driven by EMF, SPP, and phonon energies that are

[Vo]:Orbital Science Rocket- Explodes...6:22 PM

2014-10-28 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L, Rockets..a bad track recordand a bad technology: http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html Ad Astra, Ron Kita, Chiralex Doylestown PA

Re: [Vo]:Orbital Science Rocket- Explodes...6:22 PM

2014-10-28 Thread leaking pen
oh god.. the live video of it burning on the pad is still streaming. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex-L, Rockets..a bad track recordand a bad technology: http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html Ad

RE: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Ellefson
This seems apropos, although I do not have access to the full article yet. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131113125839.htm Tossed on the waves: Charting the path of ejected particles Fusion energy requires confining high energy particles, both those

[Vo]:One of Stephan Pomp's, three arch sceptic co authors, appears to have switched sides

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Walker
Hi all According to forum posts that were discovered by Sifferkol, just now; one of Stephan Pomp's, three arch sceptic co authors, appears to have switched sides and is now saying Rossi and Carl-Oscar Gullström will win next years Nobel prize! Hmm... http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/?p=454

Re: [Vo]:One of Stephan Pomp's, three arch sceptic co authors, appears to have switched sides

2014-10-28 Thread Lennart Thornros
Sorry I think it sounds like sarcasm. He is still a cat-strangler:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to

Re: [Vo]:One of Stephan Pomp's, three arch sceptic co authors, appears to have switched sides

2014-10-28 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:37:41 PM Sorry I think it sounds like sarcasm. He is still a cat-strangler:) Reading the whole thread (google-translated): sarcasm.

Re: [Vo]:One of Stephan Pomp's, three arch sceptic co authors, appears to have switched sides

2014-10-28 Thread Alan Fletcher
More relevant : Re: Rossi wins and those involved in their bluffing? by Peter Ekstrom »Sun October 26, 2014, 13:33 NyfikneHästen wrote: ... Finally, I wonder why not Peter or HG eventually involve themselves practically with Rossi and puts the nail in the coffin. Or have you tried? You

[Vo]:RE: New analysis

2014-10-28 Thread Jones Beene
This guy makes an interesting point that is not clear to me. Terry, Dave, Bob et al - what do you EEs who have looked at the input power think about this approach? “The currents in the three C1 wires are all equal and they are measured by the true RMS instrument PCE-830. The three heating

Re: [Vo]:Orbital Science Rocket- Explodes...6:22 PM

2014-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
Well, I wish I had some SpaceX stock.

Re: [Vo]:RE: New analysis

2014-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
It's bed time here; so, I'll have to check it out tomorrow. Meanwhile three phase power is calculated by: Watt's Law: W = V avg. x A avg x p.f. x 1.732 Where: W = wattage (watts) Vavg = average voltage of the three separate phases (volts) Aavg = average current of the three separate phases

Re: [Vo]:RE: New analysis

2014-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
I took a quick look at it. I think the author is confusing split phase with three phase. Split phase is how you get 240 V in your home with only a single phase being distributed by the power company. The single phase is fed into a transformer with a center tap. You then get two 120 volt

Re: [Vo]:RE: New analysis

2014-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
I said three phase has no neutral. Well neutral is earth. Each phase's voltage to earth is 120 V with phase to phase voltage at 208 V. Facilities with single phase loads combined with three phase loads have a neutral. But these single phase loads must be balanced. Search on delta vs wye. This

Re: [Vo]:RE: New analysis

2014-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
The fact that, in the US, three phase circuits are 120 degrees out of phase and the phase to ground voltage is 120 volts is an insane coincidence designed to make it all difficult to understand; but, the two numbers being the same is purely coincidence. (by design :-) On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at

Re: [Vo]:Re: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: If any of LENR energy were produced by radiation or particles not stopped by the reactor vessel, such energy would escape detection by the Lugano instruments. Neutrinos and low frequency RF could be such radiation.

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Robert Ellefson vortex-h...@e2ke.com wrote: How would you explain that particular ash morphology, considering the shape of the nickel fuel grain clusters? I suspect that the further we get away from everyday physics, the harder it will be to understand LENR.

Re: [Vo]:MFMP interviews spokesman from WILLIAMSON

2014-10-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Basically what happens is that as the temperature changes the peak of the blackbody spectrum moves through different parts of the emissivity/wavelength curve. Are you assuming a standard Boltzmann curve that just shifts its

[Vo]:Electrical Phasing Question for Halloween

2014-10-28 Thread Harvey Norris
I have three coils each reading 5 volts from 3 magnetic fields each out of phase. The first two in series read 9.5 volts, and if the coils were completely opposite in polarity, or 180 degrees out of phase, this would read the sum of the voltages or 10 volts. Applying the law of cos. we find

Re: [Vo]:Re: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor

2014-10-28 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: Energetic photons provide an obvious means by which lots of energy might be allowed to escape from the E-Cat, thereby leading to an understated COP ... I suppose there are neutrinos as well. But they're very lightweight and so do not carry away much momentum, and they bring with them

Re: [Vo]:A new type of laser is born?

2014-10-28 Thread Axil Axil
*How would you explain that particular ash morphology, considering the shape of the nickel fuel grain clusters? At the same time, how would you explain the evolving COP that appeared to be accelerating as the experiment ended?* I would explain increasing COP over time as a result of Lithium